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Speaker 1: Hello, creatures. Welcome to the feature, The Creature Feature. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of many parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and some people say I'm the mouthpiece

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Speaker 1: for a hive mind consisting of hundreds of tiny spiders.

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Speaker 1: These allegations are untrue, slender and we I mean, I

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Speaker 1: won't stand for it on any of my many, many legs.

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Speaker 1: Today we'll be talking about tools, tools of the trade,

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Speaker 1: tools of torture, and tools so well you know, uh so,

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Speaker 1: what's a butcher, a tailor, and a bendy stickmaker? Gotten common?

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Speaker 1: They're all birds? Sorry spoilers, Well discover this and more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the angel question, what's the most humiliating

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Speaker 1: thing to ever happen to an eel? So when you

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Speaker 1: think of animal tool use, you may think of that

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Speaker 1: scene in two thousand one A Space Odyssey where the

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Speaker 1: apes discover how bones can be used to smash each

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Speaker 1: other's faces in the truth is that primate tool use

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Speaker 1: can be much more sophisticated. Gorillas turn wood and woolen

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Speaker 1: scraps and to make shift slippers so they don't have

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Speaker 1: to walk on the snow, orangatans use leaves as a

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Speaker 1: safety whistle, holding them in front of their lips as

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Speaker 1: they make an alarm call, lowering the frequency of sound

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Speaker 1: and making them sound bigger mandrils. And if you're not

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Speaker 1: sure what a mandrilla is, it's what raffici is from

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Speaker 1: the lime king Uh, they'll make Q tips out of

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Speaker 1: twigs to clean their ears. So as we'll discover, primates

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Speaker 1: including humans, aren't the only animals out there who use tools,

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Speaker 1: and there are surprisingly sophisticated, cunning, cruel, and well perverted

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Speaker 1: tools used by members of the animal kingdom. So joining

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Speaker 1: me today is comedian, writer, director, lip bomb collector and

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Speaker 1: overall great galcarbon Angelica agreed to have you. Uh I

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Speaker 1: read about you collecting lip bomb on your Twitter. Are

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Speaker 1: you sort of like, is this kind of like a

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Speaker 1: magpie or raven kind of thing where you just have

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Speaker 1: like a nest full of lip bomb. It's like a

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Speaker 1: magpie if they didn't collect it. Well, Like, it's like

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Speaker 1: I feel like magpies like create a nest, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's full of all and they know exactly where all

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Speaker 1: of their stuff placed it meaningfully. Yeah, where I, on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, accidentally find lip everywhere because I always

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Speaker 1: lose it and buy more. Right now, I totally understand

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Speaker 1: that I have a few purses where sometimes it's fun

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Speaker 1: to go through my old purses because I'll just find

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Speaker 1: money and al toys and various bombs. Just it's, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of it's fun. It's like I leave myself

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Speaker 1: Easter eggs. Agreed. I I think if you look at

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Speaker 1: it that way, it's it's never there when you need it,

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Speaker 1: but when you happen upon it, it's always there. So

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Speaker 1: we're talking today about tools of the trade. Do you have,

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Speaker 1: like a favorite tool or is it lip um favorite

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Speaker 1: tool besides lip bomb um? I would U minds a

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Speaker 1: Philips head screwdriver. This is Philip head screw You know what?

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Speaker 1: I like? A measuring tape. Those are good, aren't they?

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Speaker 1: What do you use it for? Um? I like just

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Speaker 1: so that's part time. So I have a little measuring

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Speaker 1: tape that I carry around with me. But then also

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Speaker 1: it's coming handy for many things, like you never know

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Speaker 1: when you need to measure something said as rope. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can look it at people, right, you can measure

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Speaker 1: like a door and an item you're carrying, and no,

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Speaker 1: if it's gonna it's instead of getting stuck there. I

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Speaker 1: always used to Yeah, like, I'm carrying like groceries and

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Speaker 1: then you measure their circumference and with like is this

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Speaker 1: going to work? And it makes the job quicker? But

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Speaker 1: also not right? They say, uh, cut your groceries once

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Speaker 1: measure So I'm not sure what my dad told me.

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Speaker 1: I think that's no, that sounds right, that sounds exactly right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to make any change the circumcisions.

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Speaker 1: Cut wants you forgot to measure circumcisions. Wait did it? Well?

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Speaker 1: So the favorite tool of dolphins is actually a sponge,

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Speaker 1: and not in the way you're thinking, not like, not

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Speaker 1: sea sponges are an actual animal ye like SpongeBob. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I used I used to have one. Really you had,

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Speaker 1: like did you? It wasn't alive. It was a dad

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Speaker 1: used the corpse of a sea spoon in your devious deeds.

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Speaker 1: I mean you talked about favorite tools, you know. I

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Speaker 1: They they use these sea sponges and they don't look

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Speaker 1: Maybe like maybe some cutco knives that someone's angrily threw

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Speaker 1: like they cut themselves in they're like, fie on you

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Speaker 1: pennies you gotta be careful with the stuff, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: so they got to protect their snoots, so they wear

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Speaker 1: sand up up their nose snoots. Well it's not really

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Speaker 1: they're snoop's. Yeah, you don't want to boop the snoot. No,

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Speaker 1: they boop with a sponge sponge. You gotta have a

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Speaker 1: why go to all this trouble when you can just

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Speaker 1: eat fish that aren't on the bottom. Well they think

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Speaker 1: that maybe it's because these fish have more nutrients that

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't get from other fish, like they have really

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Speaker 1: high lipid content. Um. Because because of the physiology of

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Speaker 1: potentially because of the nutritional pressures of bearing calves, which

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Speaker 1: makes them crave more high fatty nutrients. UM. And then

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Speaker 1: this is a really cool example of cultural learning because

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Speaker 1: they passed the knowledge of sponging onto their daughters. That's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: I think that makes me like dolphins so much more.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they were like, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: who put the sponge on. It's like, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: It was not for booping, well it was. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: a form of boop. It's a contracept. It wasn't for

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Speaker 1: food booping. You remember that Seinfeld episode the sponge worthy

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Speaker 1: Elaine like that. I guess that the sponge went off

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Speaker 1: she was, would have to determine whether he's sponge you worthy.

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Speaker 1: birth control. It's got to be the right, got to

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Speaker 1: the fish are sponge worthy, so they're high lipid content

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Speaker 1: at nice cavs. So another uh sort of animal entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: when it comes to tool use, is called Well, first,

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Speaker 1: needles with plant fiber or spider silk. Is the that

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Speaker 1: and it's really incredible kind of natural engineering. We should

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Speaker 1: I am, um. But New Caledonian crows don't just use

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Speaker 1: make their own specific tools. Um. So New Caledonian crows

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Speaker 1: Caledonia Caledonia. I'm sorry, I can't verify somewhere in near

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Speaker 1: they feed on raw, bloody meat of their tortured victims.

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00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Actually don't know if you would have guessed that precisely,

423
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: just that would be something bad their tortured victims, because

424
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: they do torture them before they eat them. If you

425
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: consider impalement to be tortured. Oh, I believe in the

426
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: textbook definition of torture, that might be one of the phrases. Yes,

427
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: So they will feed on insects, reptiles, small mammals, or

428
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: even other birds. Uh. Once they capture their prey, they

429
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: impale them on spikes, typically thorns, on branches, but they

430
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: get kind of creative with it. They'll do a sharp plant,

431
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: sharp sticks, whatever they can find. Um. In fact, they

432
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: you sometimes use barbed wire. So you already don't look

433
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: happy about this. So I'm gonna show you some pictures. Okay.

434
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: So here's um one of these butcher birds with its prey.

435
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: You see that spikes just going right through the little

436
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: mouse's skull. Oh um. And here here's one with its

437
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: victim and he's sitting on some barbed wire and he's

438
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: just about to just shunk it right on that wire.

439
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Why do they want to impale it's so bad? Well, uh,

440
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: it gives them a larger of meat, a larger meat larger. Wait,

441
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: just scrabe what you mean by meat larger? Is it

442
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: like like a pantry full of meat? Oh? And it

443
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: just hangs out. Well, it's like the meat hooks like

444
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier. Um with the what's his

445
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: name leather say they eat people. That's the I haven't

446
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: actually seen they eat people. So they got to keep

447
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: people and like a meat larder, and so do these birds.

448
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: So does it. But there's not necessarily like the only

449
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: difference I'm seeing, and maybe you have the answer here

450
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: is in in in the movie they were in like

451
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: a cooling place. Right there. They are these spikes that

452
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: they these birds find in a cooling plane. No, no,

453
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: it's not really refrigeration. It's just that you know, you're

454
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: a smallish bird and you have a big mouse. It's

455
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: hard to eat. So if you put it on a spike,

456
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: not only can you eat it more easily, Uh so

457
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: you can just kind of rip and tear meat off

458
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: of it without it falling down. Um. But you can

459
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: also once you're full, you save it for later and

460
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: or if you want to keep hunting, you can keep hunting.

461
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: Put another thing on come back kind of turns into

462
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: some nice mousey jerky. Uh, you know, just sample different

463
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: little meats you got having snacks on a road trip,

464
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: except the snacks are on spikes. Yeah. No, I mean,

465
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: I guess it's not far off from what we've done.

466
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: You know. Again, maybe we learned it from the birds.

467
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Maybe the birds learned it from us. Yes, we saw,

468
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean, especially during the crusades and stuff. We saw

469
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: the birds and are like, this gives me a night idea.

470
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: What was it, Theodore? Nothing? Oh nothing, just talking to

471
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: my bird friends. Thanks guys. The birds tell me to

472
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: kill So another animal who's kind of into torture in

473
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: a weird way. God, more than one. Yeah, and it's

474
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: a it's kind of funny and cute but also kind

475
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: of twisted. Wild Maccaux will use human hair as dental floss. Maccaques.

476
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: What is a macca It's a it's a type of monkey. Yeah,

477
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: and they take a human hair for dental fox. Yes,

478
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: you look kind of like this than cute than cute

479
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: little guys. But they like to rip people's hair out

480
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: and use it as dental floss. I mean to be

481
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: fair if it is long hair, and imagine most of

482
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: our hair is longer than their's. Right, that's true. It's

483
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: just kind of a very um sadistic form of tool,

484
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: you for sure. Where So Uh they live in Thailand, um.

485
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: And there's a group, a specific group of them that

486
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: lives at an old Buddhist shrine of the praying some

487
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: yacht I think that's how it's pronounced. Uh. And they're

488
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: seen as holy servants of God. Um. And like most

489
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: people or monkeys, all of this power has gone right

490
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: to their heads. Um so also to unfortunate bystanders heads

491
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: like to they'll ride on people's heads and pull out

492
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, chunction haird um, and then they use these

493
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: hairs to brush their teeth and floss in between them. Uh. Well,

494
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: at least they care about dental hygiene in that, you know, yeah,

495
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: at the expense of everybody's heads. Yeah, that's true. Just like, uh,

496
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: that'd be such a weird social behavior if you just

497
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: just reached over to someone, pulled out their hair and

498
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: started blossing with it. Yeah, i'd be like, I think

499
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: there's something in my teeth that is it gone? Is

500
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: it gone? Yeah? Most of my hair is. Sometimes I

501
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: use my boyfriend's hand to scratch my arm. That's nice. Yeah,

502
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: but I don't rip his hand out of its socket. Yeah.

503
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: I think that's also scratch that you don't do that.

504
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I think it's nice that you don't. It is nice.

505
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: It's a low bar. But I have jumped, just barely jumped,

506
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: did it. I've had it and I'm happy. No. Well,

507
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess it is a it's a

508
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: it's a creative solution. But yike, so where do they

509
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: get Just people who are walking by, they'll jump on

510
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: their shoulders. Yeah, so people who visit the shrine and

511
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: they and they. It's also that you know, these monkeys

512
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: are regarded as holy, so they're not gonna like, you're

513
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: not gonna drop kick a holy monkey. So if a

514
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: holy monkey gets on you and starts pulling out your hair,

515
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's got God's will, all right, You're welcome. Um,

516
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: just like how we get allow like other people in

517
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: positions of authority away with abuses. You know, I guess

518
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: I guess, but the monkeys they are cuter, though cut

519
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: they are cuter, and at least it's just at least

520
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: it's in the name of good dental hygiene. Yeah, and

521
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: it's well man, oh man, oh man. I'm glad I

522
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: haven't visited that shrine. Then. Frankly, my hair would be fantastic. Oh,

523
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: they would love my hair. It's already like sort of

524
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: a bird's nest of hair, so I think it's it's

525
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: just primo, primo monkey plucking kind of hair. Yeah, although

526
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: it's also kind of um. Each each hair itself is

527
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of thin where it's like easy to break apart,

528
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know how if it would be good floss,

529
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: it might be a good toothbrush though. Yeah, that's soft bristles.

530
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if you like sort of get a big

531
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: chunk out. Yeah, you know, personally my hair is mm hmmm.

532
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: I would say it's actually pretty good for floss, like

533
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: it would be some primo Yeah. I do remember. This

534
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: is bringing back this recovered memory of when I was

535
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: a kid. I did use my own hair at to floss.

536
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: You did that just is not like because I cared

537
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: about flossing, but because I wanted to try it. I

538
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: was curious and it worked. I well, yeah, I mean physically, yeah,

539
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: I could do it. I don't know if it actually

540
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: cleaned my teeth at all, just made him grosser, probably

541
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: floss like smiling at the school picture. Just a bunch

542
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: of hair sticking out of my teeth. You get get

543
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: something that is that human hair, and well you know

544
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: what they were. I mean, I know that. I think

545
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: there was a time when I used to I wasn't

546
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: a kid who ate hair, Thank god. Um, I'm sorry

547
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: to those listeners who worked children who ate her. But

548
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: I definitely chewed on my hair. Yeah, me too, Yeah,

549
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: I chewed on my hair. Yeah, I wouldn't. Actually, when

550
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: people eat a lot of hair, it can become a

551
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: big problem. It's a um have it known as pike

552
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: where you you eat things you're not um and hair

553
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: is one of them. And uh, there was a woman

554
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: who had eaten so much hair it formed an intestinal

555
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: clog and it weighed like as much as a baby.

556
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: She got a hairball in her big hairball and they

557
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: had a surgically removed it and it weighed like ten

558
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: pounds or something. Disgusted. I feel so bad for her.

559
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: There's pictures you want to see. I think you're bringing

560
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, well, it's like it's like when you imagine,

561
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: like you know, when you you dig in your shower

562
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: drain that times, it's that hundred times with some probably

563
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: internal google it's I mean, it actually looked like sort

564
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: of more like a hairball, just like a big ball

565
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: of hair. All right, well that's that's okay then. Yeah,

566
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've seen that all the time. I

567
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: mean they cleaned it off first. I don't know that's true.

568
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: They probably didn't want to show would blood. Yeah, they

569
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: like clean it off to shoot all their fellow surgeons like, hey,

570
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: look what I found. Look at this jet hair ball.

571
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's turned around as fair play

572
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: because we use animal parts in weird ways. I guess so,

573
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: like if you think about it, because we use we

574
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: use a boar hair bristles our brushes, We use um

575
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: horse hair in our instruments, right yeah, violins, Uh, we

576
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: use hair, we use other animals hair. I got someone

577
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: gave me a book called Felting with cat hair. I've

578
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: seen that. I haven't done. I haven't done it, but

579
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Have you felted? With the cat home. No,

580
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: but I do. I have felted with normal wool. Yeah,

581
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: I guess wool is like the main the main animal

582
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: hair we use. Huh, yeah, that is like cat hair.

583
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand because I like, oh, you know,

584
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: some people knit with their dog hair and cat hair.

585
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: Dog here and cat hair. It ain't ain't it's nasty.

586
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: It's also not long or anything, so sometimes like they

587
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: were doing. Well, there's dogs that are have long hair

588
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: and cats that have long hair. I don't think it

589
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: worked with the real short hair ones. Yeah, my dog

590
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: definitely generates enough long hair to fill with or to

591
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: knit with if I wove it into yarn. So disgusting. Well,

592
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's a way to use all

593
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: of the fluff that's always around the house. I just

594
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: like number one. If a friend has an allergy and

595
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm outside wearing my like cat hair sweater, is that

596
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: just because you have cat hair on you feels wrong?

597
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean I already do always have. I mean, we're

598
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: not anymore. I don't live with cats anymore, but I

599
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: know my my roommate moved away and took the cats.

600
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's fine, it's fine. It's fine. They're happy

601
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: where they are. Face time with the cats. I did.

602
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: I did. We faced I FaceTime with my older man

603
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: and then we I saw the cats in the FaceTime

604
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: for I like collected their hair, sort of shaped it

605
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: into the shape of a cat and be like, you

606
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: are my cat now, you know? I keep I keep

607
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: texting my old roommate who has moved away, and I

608
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: keep being like, could you please send me some of

609
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: their hair? I need to really cat? Is this a

610
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: bit okay? You're very convincing you. Yeah, I know. She

611
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: keeps saying no, and I don't know. Why can I

612
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: have some of your cat hair for my purpose? I

613
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: hope this isn't weird. I I'm glad you are all

614
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: happy where you are now, but I'm going to need

615
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: you to send me cat hair because I need to

616
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: make a cat. So have animals themselves ever been used

617
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: as tools of torture by humans? I mean these are

618
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: civilized people were talking about, So yes, absolutely, of course

619
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: they have. Remember that book. You may have heard it

620
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: name dropped a few thousand times, and remember that scene

621
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: where the hero gets torture heard by rats. Well, historically

622
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: rats have been used for torture, and in an even

623
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: more gruesome manner, during the Dutch Revolt from the late

624
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: fifteen hundreds to mid sixteen hundreds, a military leader named

625
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: Die Derek Snoy found a sickening use for rats. He'd

626
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: philo ceramic bulup with rats, placed the bull against his

627
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: victim's stomachs, then heats the bowl. The rats, who were

628
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: getting uncomfortably hot from the hot coals, burrowed into the

629
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: only refuge available to them, the fleshy stomachs and on

630
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: trails of the human victim. This of course kills the human,

631
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: though I'm not really sure what happens to the rats.

632
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: The rats have been used throughout the ages as implements

633
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: of torture, which I think is really unfair to the

634
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: rats here. They are just trying to live their ratty

635
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: Life's getting cheese every day when you're suddenly forced to

636
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: be parted to some ghoulish Rube Goldberg machine of torture.

637
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Who's the real rats here? The rats are the humans

638
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: who used the rats to torture of the humans. Right,

639
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: So when we come back, be shifting gears from tools

640
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: of torture to tools of love, if you know what

641
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean. We're gonna talk about animal sex, so stay tuned.

642
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: So now we're going to talk about tools of well,

643
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, as sexual nature. We humans have long sought

644
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: to separate the act of sex from that of reproduction

645
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: because sex is fun, while having tons and tons of

646
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: babies can be gotta less fun. So some historians think

647
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: that there are ancient tools of reproductive control, such as

648
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: small rocks, potentially being used as a kind of primitive

649
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: form of I U. D. There's also a myth that

650
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: seems to suggest condoms were used in ancient society. The

651
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: Legend of Minos, written in one tells the sad story

652
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: of King Minos, whose semen was cursed to be made

653
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: out of snakes and scorpions, a huge turn off for

654
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: the ladies. So to protect his lovers, he used a

655
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: goat bladder as a female condom. So, YadA, YadA, YadA,

656
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: history happened, and now we have a bunch of forms

657
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: of cool birth control and other sexual devices that make

658
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: sex safer and more fun. But it's putting a bunch

659
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: of bells and whistles on sex, a uniquely human habit. Nope,

660
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: we got some kinky critters who put their creativity to

661
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: very good use, if you know what I mean. Uh So,

662
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: I like in the Legend of King Minus, they're like,

663
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: what if semen was made out of scorpions and snakes?

664
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: That would be bad, right, but it's I would be

665
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: much more concerned. I mean, like sure you wouldn't, but

666
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: like when that hurt come out, that's gotta those little semen, semen,

667
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: scorpions are crawling out of your tiny little peny hole, right,

668
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: that's well put. Yeah, I just I feel like, right,

669
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: like why would you I like the how the logic

670
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: is like, oh, you know you gotta you gotta protect

671
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, have protective sex. That's all good, But would

672
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: you ever want to have sex again if like every

673
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: time you had sex scorpions came down of your wei hole?

674
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, how good is the orgasm that is

675
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: paired with like the payoffs seems to pale in comparison

676
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: to like, oh, well, you know, I'm gonna like pass

677
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: an entire snake and a scorpion or like like a

678
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: couple of seconds of like a couple of sex and

679
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: sex sex. Yes, I mean, because I've heard passing stones

680
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: is incredibly painful and those are tiny, right, Passing scorpions.

681
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: Even I guess that the scorpions small enough. Yeah, I mean,

682
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: how a little are these little scorpions? I don't know.

683
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how little they're. Scorpions come

684
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: in all shapes and sizes. Also, if they're too tiny,

685
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: then pinching on the outside won't really you won't feel it, right,

686
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: that's right. So then it's like the bite of um,

687
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: what do you call those the daddy lung legs? They're

688
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: the poisoness, but they can't really bite you, I think,

689
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think they're actually that poisonous to humans.

690
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of like that might be apocryphal.

691
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, Um, but I would know, you know

692
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: more about creatures. I wouldn't rub them all over yourself

693
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: and well, then you're ruining my weekend plans. But I

694
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: think that, I mean, their their jaws, their teeth are

695
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: quite tiny. But I'm also not sure if the venom

696
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: is actually that. Do you want me to have a

697
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: happy for us July or not? What do you want?

698
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: There's also difference between harvestman and Daddy long legs, and

699
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. So that's helpful. So

700
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: have you ever dated a drummer? Have I ever dated

701
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: a drummer? Oh my god, I think I have, Yeah,

702
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: I think once. Yeah, Well, thank you for being on

703
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: a show. CARF. That's that's just so we came here

704
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: to ask an answer. Okay, we'll tell me about that. Well,

705
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm actually currently dating a drummer. It's not

706
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: that's not as main, it's not as Yeah. Yeah, my

707
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: drummer wasn't his main gig, right, it was just a

708
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: fun It was a drummy thing. Yeah, it was just

709
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: a drummy thing. But there are drum people. Yeah, and

710
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: there are drum birds. What so cockatoos use drumsticks to

711
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: get the ladies, I get it. So, um they will

712
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: accompany their singing with a rock and drum solo. Um.

713
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: So these are male palm cockatoos. They're found in Australia

714
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: and they actually look pretty metal. They're black with red cheeks. Oh.

715
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: I really want there to be a drummer who dresses

716
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: just like they kind of. I mean it's like it's

717
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, it does look very metal bandish.

718
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: It's like you know, you got this jet blackbird, and

719
00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: I mean the red cheeks are adorable. Yeah. Yeah, uh.

720
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: And so they will use sticks or rocks to rhythmically

721
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: drum against the branches of trees to attract mates, which

722
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: is um. I think it's one of the first time

723
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: we've seen another animal other than humans use percussive instruments

724
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: that are like a separate tool to use as a

725
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: percussive instrument, truly using the rhythm of the night. And

726
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: each bird has his own characteristic drum solo roof. Oh,

727
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: that's great. I love that. Yeah, and it's I listened

728
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: to a thing of it and it's kind of like

729
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: it kind of sounds like like where wait is that

730
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: just that was one bird? Though that was another bird

731
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: might be like yeah, or like one bird might be like,

732
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That bird is my boyfriend. I'm sorry or girlfriend.

733
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what the agenda. They are males, yeah, okay,

734
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Oh it is a dude, Okay, so then that's my boyfriend.

735
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: They also have red hairstyle because they're cocka teas. Let

736
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: me just show you a picture of these probably rocker birds.

737
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I'll probably put up a photo of these on our

738
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: Instagram in her Twitter, but they are they look like

739
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: they look like rock stars. They have a little their

740
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: little red cheeks. They have a mohawk and red cheeks.

741
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: That's so funny, it's really, it's really funny. And actually

742
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: here's one of them holding a twig, probably to use

743
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: as a drumstick. And you know what, he looks real

744
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: rock and roll doing it. He does, well, I mean

745
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: some of them. And it's like they're they're a little

746
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: they're little um mohawks can pop up or go down,

747
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: and so sometimes they look like Emo with their their

748
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: feathers right, and then of times they like punk rock

749
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: where they're like ready to rock? Are you ready to squawk?

750
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: So I don't want to ask you a riddle, Carmen, Okay,

751
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: when is a tool a tool? Where as a tool

752
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: it's like a jerk tool, like like that tool is

753
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: being a real tool. It's a jerk. I mean, that's

754
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a fun one. But no, that's

755
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: not the answer. But tell me, tell me a penis

756
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: and I don't. And this's and it's actually a tool

757
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: like a tool. Truly did not even I wasn't even

758
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: I should have guessed we are in this actually, like

759
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: I should have known. You should have known. But that's

760
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: it's okay because you may not have known that elephants

761
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: have nearly prehensile penises. What yeah, so they can actually

762
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: use their penis for things other than sex. They have

763
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: used their penises to swat flies, scratch their tummies, or

764
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: even as a third legged, to balance. I can't get over.

765
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: I just think that's so I am sorry. I'm imagining like, uh,

766
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: if humans could do, like if there was a fly nearby,

767
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: and the guy was just like, they can't, but I thought,

768
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: it's just really fun. That's amazing, right, Like, like they've

769
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: been observed using them to manipulate objects to kind of

770
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: balance when they're reaching for something like a like a tripod.

771
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, so smart and useful. I love that. And

772
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: they're very big, I imagine because they are elephants, and um,

773
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: they're very they look like a small trunk, but it

774
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: is I mean, all right, listen, people be mature about this.

775
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: Animals do need to reproduce, and in order to have

776
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: sexual reproduction, uh, most of the time, you do need

777
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: a penis. Sometime that penis is going to be the

778
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: size of a large pool noodle. It's gonna flop around.

779
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: They're going to use it to swat flies away, and

780
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: I just want you guys to be mature about this. Okay,

781
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: if I see a bunch of jokes about like elf

782
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: and penises, or or a lot of people saying, oh,

783
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: that's so funny, I will be very disappointed. I am laughing,

784
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: but only in straight serious. This is like, absolutely nothing

785
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: is funny and laughs as she learns. When she learns something,

786
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: she laughs because that's just the sound of learning. Yeah,

787
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: it's the joy that comes with learning. I do not

788
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: find this funny, pure euphoria at learning, truly. I'm just like,

789
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm so eager to learn. But I agree. I mean,

790
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: I got it, you know once never um, never be

791
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: laughing at the fact that have been used to flats

792
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: wise for you also shouldn't laugh at the fact that

793
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: their sperm has to travel over two meters. I love learning.

794
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: So the reason the uh researchers suspect that the penis

795
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: is so flexible is that the females vaginal opening is

796
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: located one and a half meters into her body. Holy

797
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: mac al, So it has to. And then it's also

798
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: just kind of hard for elephants to have sex because

799
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: they're big and bulky. Um, and it's Actually it's it's

800
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: actually interesting because I read that sometimes um, younger or

801
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: less experienced females can be intimidated by by bowls. Uh

802
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: and um. There it's often consensual, but they're just kind

803
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: of like whoa, what's going on? And so their their

804
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: family will like stay around and be like you go girl. Ah,

805
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: and it's like they're they're a matriarchical society. So it's

806
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: like older females will be around. It's like you get it, honey,

807
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: you get some Yes, yes, you're doing great. So that

808
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: be big elefant t. Did you see him swat fly earlier?

809
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: It was amazing. You're so lucky girl. Um and uh.

810
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: So it's to the male to have a flexible, flexible

811
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: wiener that can you know, reach the female is quite important.

812
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: It has to be and it has to be pretty

813
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: you know agile Yeah, I mean an agile pool noodle

814
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: of the penis um just reach just doing an old

815
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: reach around. Oh man, that's so fun. I don't know

816
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: why the fly swatting is is forever gonna because you've

817
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: probably imagined it with like a with like a tuba

818
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: sola going like rod little swat out of here is

819
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: kind of making a shoe motion like shoes. It's great. Um,

820
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: I want to Actually, I had this idea. I don't

821
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: know if this is gonna work or not, but I

822
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: wanted to try a predictive text game because it's what

823
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: the It's what all the folks are doing on on

824
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: the twitters and stuff, where you you type in some

825
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: text and let it predict what you're about to say.

826
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, prehensile elephant penis and then

827
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: just select the predictive text. Prehensile elephant penis is the

828
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: best way to make a difference in the world. Oh

829
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: my god, it's amazing. Way. Should I try? Yeah, you try?

830
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's give it a shot. Uh. And what

831
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: was the prehensile elephant penis? Prehend So I'm going to

832
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: text you this too, prehensile elephant penis. All right, then

833
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: here we go. Was the show that you were hilarious

834
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: to do? That you were Wow, that's pretty close to reality.

835
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send this to you now so that you

836
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: always have it. Yes, please do all right, here we go.

837
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: Prehensile elephant penis was the show that you were hilarious

838
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: to do? That you were that's true, that's so true.

839
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: I feel like the more I do this, the more

840
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: the predictive text is just going to curtail itself to

841
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: like my needs, and eventually the show will right itself.

842
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: So I know what you're asking, Carmen. Elephants don't have hands,

843
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: So how do they masturbay? That's so true? The answer

844
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: with whatever they can find? Oh no, so they've masturbated,

845
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: just like rubbing against the ocean floor with decapitated fish,

846
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: hey god, and most bestly, live eels. Oh no. There

847
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: was an observation of a particularly crafty dolphin wrapping a

848
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: live eel around his wiener and just like riding it out. Wait,

849
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: so that it was like wrapped around like a like

850
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: a like a piece of thread around a stick. Let's say,

851
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And that eel was just like, let's hold

852
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: on for this one. Wouldn't that's so humiliating for the eel? Like,

853
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't it suck if you were reincarnated? Uh? You know,

854
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: like in Mowanna, she gets reincarnated as like a manta

855
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: rage big gorgeous sting ray and like, uh, you're like

856
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: reincarnated as a cool sea animal like an eel. You're like, wow,

857
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm in the ocean and like you know, and then

858
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: a horny dolphin just like I'm gonna use it. Oh god,

859
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: I love that now, like horny that's what horny dolphins

860
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: sounds like. It's just like, oh my god, that's at

861
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: more than for your like sounds like, oh god, what's

862
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: the who the actor? The uh you sound like Matthew McConaughey.

863
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the heels keep getting older. My wait,

864
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: I've already made a gross but yeah, dolphins and eels.

865
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: I didn't wonder if it was an electric heel and

866
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: if that would be bad or good. I like, it

867
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: depends on the dolphins. The dolphin into like some of

868
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: this S and M stuff with like electric eels, I mean,

869
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: is it sort of That's another way people do that,

870
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: right where they like attached car batteries to their judget

871
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: People get zapped. I mean like like I'm not I'm

872
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: talking about the consensual No no, I mean people get

873
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: zapped right right. As someone who's never electrocuting myself in

874
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: the name of fun, yeah, I wish I could. I

875
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: wish I could weigh in as somebody who has the

876
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: experience knows, But I don't write. I mean is it

877
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: just because, like I wonder if it's just that it's painful,

878
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: or there's something like more interesting about it. I mean,

879
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: there's it's like the whole dichotomy of pain and pleasure,

880
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: I imagine, I guess so. And I wonder if, like

881
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: if like electrocuting yourself like makes more blood flow out

882
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: in the areas. I mean, that's that's good. I don't

883
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: know it's interesting, but yeah, that would That sucks for

884
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: thee sucks to me. That does the eel just not?

885
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean if the eel doesn't atally doesn't understand, doesn't know,

886
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, why am I? All right? I guess

887
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna chill for a half second. This is

888
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: truly the less This is a bumpy ride, right, I

889
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: guess I'll get somewhere. So dolphins aren't the only ones

890
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: who have found a sort of masturbatory aid. Peter Bruckmann

891
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: of the Natural History Museum at the University of Austin

892
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: claims that orangutans make dildos out of wooden bark. Well,

893
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: all right, get a girl, yeah, get it, girl, empower

894
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: yourself with that wooden dildo. I love like the general

895
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: vibe of this when we are in the sex section

896
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: for women is just like we just imagine all of

897
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: the animal girls being like, get it, girl. I mean sometimes,

898
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: like with elephants, they're very supportive. I love yeah, and

899
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: I love like these orangutans just like um. And I

900
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: don't think it's just exclusively females, if you know what

901
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean. I think, man, sometimes we'll use them, use

902
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: the dildos. I mean, hey, it's all about the sexual pleasure,

903
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know if they're as sexually liberated

904
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: as Bonobo's who are very much so. They just hump

905
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: everything each other all the time, and it's all fun.

906
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: It's a greeting. It's like it's just like you want

907
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: to borrow cup of sugar. You just you hump your

908
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: neighbors sometimes, you know, um, but orangutans, you know, it's

909
00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: it's it's surprisingly progressive. Tree bark dildos. That's nice. I

910
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: mean tree bark to those personally, it doesn't sound terribly

911
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: comfortable for me. I don't know how they get it smooth.

912
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine they would sort of pick them out,

913
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, based on smoothness, like uh like kind of

914
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: a smoother you know, like like select I wonder, I

915
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any evidence that they like actually

916
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: shape it, but they are. They are some of the

917
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: apes that one would they do use tools so so

918
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: that I imagine they get crazy. Who's to say that

919
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: they don't, because they they'll, like we said talked about earlier,

920
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: they use leaves as sort of like safety whistles, and

921
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: they'll use leaves to protect themselves from rain, So they

922
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: have some concept of tool use and so like, it

923
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me that much if they sort of, like

924
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, had their favorite piece of bark that they

925
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, don't we all, you know, don't

926
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 1: we all have our favorite I don't know. Uh, but

927
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: it's not just a sort of intelligent primates or intelligent

928
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: um sea mammals like dolphins, but also female porcupines have

929
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: been observed to maybe use sticks as dildos. Well, porcupines.

930
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't blame do you blame them though? No, I

931
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: don't blame them because it's gotta be rough to Oh yeah,

932
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: it's actually it's actually not so it's I don't think

933
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: it's actually so bad for porcupines because I think they're

934
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: um hiny areas are softer, like the there's not really

935
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: that many quills around. I would hope their heiny areas um.

936
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: And you know, their their quills are sort of like

937
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: if you just stroke them one way, they aren't painful,

938
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: like it's only if you write. They can be surprisingly

939
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: soft if you stroke them one way. It's just like

940
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: when they make all their quills erect and it's like, yeah,

941
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: this is protection right right. Um. Although hedgehogs have more problems.

942
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: I think they can't hedge and like I read something

943
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: about hedgehogs having sex, like how do hedgehogs have sex?

944
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: And like a biologist was like, very carefully, very as

945
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: we all should, you know, we should be careful but

946
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: have fun. You know, yes, yes, I agree with that. Uh.

947
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: And just to get back on the topic of tool tools,

948
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm talking about dragonfly penises

949
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: are like ice cream scoops that remove other dragonfly sperm

950
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: from their partners during mating. Think that through Wait, just

951
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: take a moment. They take out with a sky scream scoop,

952
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: which is their so they take it out like it's

953
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: a condom. So they're like, I don't want to reproduce

954
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: right now scoop it out, put it out well almost,

955
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: but with competitors sements. So they super want to reproduce

956
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: their like but just with me, but just with me

957
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: and my and my seed. Oh my god, that's pretty gross,

958
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: but it's um so. I read this in the book

959
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: called Dragonflies by Cynthia Burger. Uh quote. He uses his

960
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: own shaped penis to either scoop out or tamp down

961
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: the old sperm before he has his own tampdown, like

962
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: like an old timey you know, one of those plant

963
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: in your seeds muskets. Gotta tamp it down, tramp it

964
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: down most of the and she also writes that most

965
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: of the time the two dragonflies are together in copulation wheel,

966
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: they are not actually mating. Instead, the mail is occupied

967
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: with the victing or compressing the sperm deposited by a

968
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: previous mail. Oh so they're trying to they're getting that

969
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: old sperm all away, but they're also tamping it down.

970
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: I think that's also like that's to make room for

971
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: their own spur like scoop throw but any leftover like

972
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: tamp tap tamp right right right, that's crazy. Yeah, it's

973
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: like trying to get pixie sticks sugar back in the tube.

974
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: You ever spill, you ever spill a pixie sick and

975
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: you get sugar where you're trying to scoop it back

976
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: in there. It doesn't get don't you know what? You

977
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: make a point. You made a beautiful visual point right there.

978
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: It's just so funny to me that they just like

979
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: have this like like you know, spoon, like shovel peans

980
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: and like hi ho, hi ho. I'm otoper high tap

981
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: tip tampa. Oh man, bugs are growth oh, I mean

982
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: with like dragonfly, just that they just that they have

983
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: a peanut spoon. It is I think, I don't know,

984
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't know where like evolutionarily, I feel like that's

985
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: such a strange. I get it, like it's not a

986
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: choice evolutionarily how you are created. But that's just the

987
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: spoon element of being like no, scoop it out, scoop it. Well.

988
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: I think it's actually that's actually pretty common where a

989
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: strategy for all sorts of creatures to get competitors firm

990
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: out of the reproductive tract of the female so that

991
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: when they deposit, because they don't want to waste their

992
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: reproductive opportunities. Um. So, there are a lot of animal

993
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: penises that will actually act as kind of like I

994
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: don't know, wet wipes or uh, well we'll be able

995
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: to remove I just the the shovel penis is really

996
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: funny to be yours, it's burned out, it's very funny.

997
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: So I want to end the episode with a new

998
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: section that I like to call news. So this is

999
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: it's a news item that it doesn't have as much

1000
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: to do with tool use, but it's uh just where

1001
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: humans and animals collide um current events. And there's a

1002
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: news story out today about a woman who has learned

1003
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: to walk, trot, gallop and jump like a horse. Um wait,

1004
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: hang on, like with on all fours. Yeah, oh right

1005
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: now let me. I'm going to show you a video

1006
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: of this. This is very real, all right, yes, it's

1007
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: very real. Her name is I like Kirstine. I think

1008
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: she's a Norwegian woman, and um, she has figured out

1009
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: how to walk and how to trot and it's really

1010
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: it's actually quite impressive. Um, oh my god, Oh my god.

1011
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: She's trotting like a horse and it's with galloping like

1012
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: a horse and she can go fast that yeah, dogs

1013
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: are better, I mean, like but look, look she's what

1014
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: she just jumped over a picnic table. It's like, I

1015
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: can't even jump over a picnic table like a human,

1016
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: let alone like a horse. This is the funniest and

1017
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, good for her, it is impressive. I can't

1018
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: do that. I don't have problems with this. I think

1019
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: that if you want to embrace sort of walking like

1020
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: a running and jumping like a horse, I mean, live

1021
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: your life. You know who's to say? This is amazing.

1022
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: She's very good at jumping's very good. And what's interesting too,

1023
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: is like her body, Like I can definitely tell she's

1024
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: like studied how horse has moved and then copied them

1025
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: because she's got like the leg kick after she jumps,

1026
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: for like after a horse will jump over the thing,

1027
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: that legs kind of will kick in the air to

1028
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: just make sure they got that extra oof of clearance. Yeah,

1029
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: it's also it's gotta she's like, I gotta have a

1030
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: lot of arm strength because she's doing this on all

1031
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: fours and she's doing the exact like you said, the

1032
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: motion of the horse. It's wild. It is really cool.

1033
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: It's I do wonder though, how much time she has

1034
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: on her hands and feet, if you know what I mean,

1035
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: all fours, how much time she has on her hives. Truly, though,

1036
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: I will say from a personal perspective, that looks very uncomfortab.

1037
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: It does look uncomfortable. That's got to put a lot

1038
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: of strains straight on your lumber. Lumber. Yeah, yeah, I

1039
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 1: feel like back hurts watching it. Yeah, my lower back

1040
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: just like got thrown out by that video. But you know, hey,

1041
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: good for you. That's that's pretty interesting to her. I know,

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Speaker 1: that's a skill I could never do. It's so very

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Speaker 1: impressive and just like, I don't know, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: thing to have in the world. Woman who jumps like

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Speaker 1: a horse and just try that follow your passion. When

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Speaker 1: you said that, I was like, well, as a kid,

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Speaker 1: didn't we all like pretend to be like animals at

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Speaker 1: one point? And I'm like, no, no, master does it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you may have done it poorly, but she actually does it. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's very accurate. She put a lot of work into it.

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Speaker 1: So Carben, you've got anything to plug other than dragon fly?

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Speaker 1: H man, I hate that I can plated ice cream

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Speaker 1: in my head with that. I know, Well, you can't

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Speaker 1: help it. Sorry, Scoop, scoop, uh for me. Let's see,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm I'm now helping to host. I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm helping out with a stand up show. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say I'm hosting every now and then. I'm on it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm helping out. You're peripheral, Yeah, I'm peripherally involved.

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Speaker 1: But they'd like, Um, you're gracing the stand up show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah me, Teresa. Oh cool, Jason found of glass. Um,

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Speaker 1: they host and it's at the local or it's at

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Speaker 1: the public house. Cool, that's all. It's an elly if

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Speaker 1: you want to go to see its stand up. They

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Speaker 1: have very very good stand ups that go up, so

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Speaker 1: you should definitely check it out. Um. And then and

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Speaker 1: that's on sorry, that is on Monday at ten pm Monday,

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Speaker 1: which Monday, Monday, Any Monday, all Mondays, all the Monday.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, just you can come

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Speaker 1: any Monday, Yeah, any Monday. And it's free, and there's

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Speaker 1: some pizza and you can eat pizza and it's free.

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Speaker 1: Is the pizza free? Yeah, the pizza's free. What the heck?

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Speaker 1: You gotta be fast that you gotta get there. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to come to support you as a friend.

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Speaker 1: Then I said for pizza. I know, free pizza, so

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Speaker 1: you should definitely if you like stand up and you

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Speaker 1: should you like stand up and you like free pizza,

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Speaker 1: yeah you should go. And it's all free. The show

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Speaker 1: is free, and the pizza's pizza with Carmera's Young Cheese.

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Speaker 1: That's nine. And then your Twitter handle handle. Where else

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Speaker 1: can people find you? You can find me on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I no longer have a Facebook, so don't even bother,

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: don't even bother, don't even a hassle with it, because

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Speaker 1: she ain't there, not there. You can't find you can't

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Speaker 1: find her anywhere. And then yeah, otherwise you can check

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Speaker 1: out my website at www dot Carmen and jelic at

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Speaker 1: dot com. And I have all my work up there

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Speaker 1: point and I do stand up around l A so

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Speaker 1: you can see there, you can see you and all

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Speaker 1: of your sort of lip palms. Oh my god, you listen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, once you've see me a few times, you'll

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Speaker 1: have seen all. She leaves a trail I do. You

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Speaker 1: can find me that way, and you can find us

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Speaker 1: on Creature feature Pod dot com. Our Twitter is Creature

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Speaker 1: feet Pod f a t our. Instagram is Creature Feature Pod,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you can find me at Katie Golden and

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Speaker 1: of course at pro bird writes where I am a

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Speaker 1: bird on Twitter? Or is the bird me? Or am

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Speaker 1: I the bird who knows you? You decide um. I

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Speaker 1: also want to make a special shout out to fan

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Speaker 1: and Instagram or Mary Danger, who she's been making some

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Speaker 1: amazing and weird comics for the show. She just made

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Speaker 1: a comment recently about last week's episode and she'll probably

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Speaker 1: have one up on this week's episode too, so check

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Speaker 1: those out on Instagram. Those are really awesome. Uh, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening. I'm super honored to be

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Speaker 1: allowed in your ear holes. If you're enjoying the show,

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Speaker 1: please leave a writing comments, subscribe, or gently blew a

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Speaker 1: kiss to the next Burgee see. Your support really does

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Speaker 1: mean so much to me, and also the conspiracy of

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Speaker 1: birds I'm part of really though. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you next Wednesday on Creature Feature. And

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Speaker 1: thanks to the Space Classics for their awesome song Exo

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Speaker 1: Lumina