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Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
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Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere.
Speaker 1: The Friday edition of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller
Speaker 1: and Danny g Radio is back in the Magic Podcast Studio.
Speaker 1: Happy April Fool's Day. So exciting. Here we are together
Speaker 1: on April Fool's Day, and I am fired up. This
Speaker 1: is someone who I've wanted to get on the podcast
Speaker 1: and have not been able to put off the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. I don't know why. That's that's an outrage,
Speaker 1: It's not right, but we are fired up to welcome
Speaker 1: in someone that I have known for almost thirty years.
Speaker 1: It shocks me to think that I've known anyone for
Speaker 1: that long, that I'm even that old to have known
Speaker 1: someone for that long. But a staple of Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Sports Media, a part of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni
Speaker 1: Association and a man with tremendous bohemian tendencies, the very quirky,
Speaker 1: eccentric Vic the Brick Jacobs, a true free spirit and
Speaker 1: a man who was a pioneer ahead of his time.
Speaker 1: And I've wanted to get Vic on the record because
Speaker 1: he told me some amazing stories back in the day
Speaker 1: about how he started his journey in radio. Now, if
Speaker 1: you're unfamiliar with Vick, Vick worked at Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 1: with the Loose Cannons and and worked on FSR for
Speaker 1: a number of years. He's part of the FSR Alumni Association.
Speaker 1: But he is still a beloved hero in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: radio on AM five seventy, the flagship home of Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, the Dodger station in Los Angeles. Very unique, uh,
Speaker 1: A breath of fresh air, Vic the Brick. These are
Speaker 1: all phrases and things that you can say about the
Speaker 1: unconventional approach to broadcasting, the high coups and all that.
Speaker 1: But we have been through a lot over the years.
Speaker 1: Myself and Vic we helped launch AM eleven fifty, the
Speaker 1: all sports station in Los Angeles that became the station
Speaker 1: that it is today, moving down the AM dial. But
Speaker 1: rather than me go on and on and give you
Speaker 1: the very distinguished resume of Victor Brick, who has traveled
Speaker 1: the globe. He's a globe trekker with his unorthodox style,
Speaker 1: which is ironic because he's very koshert but certainly outlandish
Speaker 1: at times. So let's get in to it with the
Speaker 1: great Vic, the Brick Jacobs and Vic welcome. First of all,
Speaker 1: good to have you, and I consider you the Dean
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles Sports Radio. Vic. Is that an accurate statement?
Speaker 1: My man? Well feeling you, Ben, and that statement it's
Speaker 1: a delusion because you were deluded and I love that
Speaker 1: about you. Well, no, there's only one dean. There's only
Speaker 1: one dean, but Brogan the dean, Well Fred friends, the
Speaker 1: dean of like TV. Right, But I'm telling I'm just
Speaker 1: in you know, in radio. I know you did TV too, Vick,
Speaker 1: But radio, the radio airways, just radio alone, Vick, that
Speaker 1: medium that is your domain. Well, again, I believe you.
Speaker 1: You are experimenting with the Pilotybic Mushroom said, beginning to
Speaker 1: experiment with the game, to gain clarity and again to
Speaker 1: be part of the at the rainbow of radio. For me,
Speaker 1: it's a great blessing because we love it so but
Speaker 1: that the pick of me in those growing toms been.
Speaker 1: I believe you have a you get them to the
Speaker 1: secret source about you? Well as you know, you know
Speaker 1: me a long time, Vick. We go way back, mean
Speaker 1: you and but I know what I wanted you to do.
Speaker 1: We people turn over. As you know, Vick, a lifetime broadcaster,
Speaker 1: you know that people turn over and whatnot. The audience
Speaker 1: turns over. So I was like, how can I explain
Speaker 1: the magic for somebody who has not heard you over
Speaker 1: the years, somebody not in l A. Somebody. Let's say
Speaker 1: there's a person vic in des Moines, Iowa, who maybe
Speaker 1: has never heard of the legend of Victor Brick. How
Speaker 1: would you describe, Vic, what you bring to the magic
Speaker 1: radio box? Your your style, you're you're a debonair personnel.
Speaker 1: How would you describe that big That's an excellent question.
Speaker 1: I bring the soul, I bring the tranquility. I bring
Speaker 1: the purity. Think of an ancient Japanese walking teeth ceremony,
Speaker 1: and that is where I try to embrace right from
Speaker 1: the soul, right from the essence, attention to detail, leave
Speaker 1: no stone unturned, but the presentation must be beautiful and
Speaker 1: from the heart and That's how I presented. It's it's all.
Speaker 1: It's all from the sports soul. Try to get to
Speaker 1: the essence and try to give it Clary. Try to
Speaker 1: bring tranquility from the tumult and Clary from the chaos.
Speaker 1: You you calm, And this is really important, especially the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. I've not I've not run into you,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen anybody. We've all been in our
Speaker 1: little caves here Vic over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: But you are right your coming influences. I'm trying, like,
Speaker 1: when's the last time I used to run into you
Speaker 1: all the time? When's the last time we hung out?
Speaker 1: It had to be at least twenty eighteen, maybe twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: It's it might even be before that. It's been a
Speaker 1: long time. Then we gotta hang out one of these days.
Speaker 1: Then it had to be before a Clipper game, because
Speaker 1: I know you're you're always a big fan of the Clippers.
Speaker 1: You're not a band ragging Clipper fan, but you believe
Speaker 1: in the Clippers. Before we have the media really bored
Speaker 1: into the Clippers with the vibe of the Clips. And
Speaker 1: it had to be at a Clipper game, probably at
Speaker 1: pregame press coppers. Yeah, that's my that's my best. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was probably something like that or a dodgery game
Speaker 1: might have been a dodgery game, dodr game, a Laker again,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Clippers because it's the odds, the
Speaker 1: it's the odd squawed out. Yeah. Well listen, I know,
Speaker 1: do you do you own a Clipper poncho Vick? You
Speaker 1: do not, right, you only have the Laker poncho. I
Speaker 1: don't end the Dodger one lacer poncho Lake, the Laker
Speaker 1: amulet forged by Laker and in Linwood. It was a
Speaker 1: stainless steel Laker amulet that I would rock on my neck.
Speaker 1: And I'm shocked that I would not say a chiropractor
Speaker 1: twice a week. We'll we'll get that now. My favorite,
Speaker 1: I got a couple of great Victor Brick when when
Speaker 1: your name comes up Thick, I always tell tell a
Speaker 1: few victim Brick stories. But the one that I wanted
Speaker 1: you to share that you told me you told me
Speaker 1: years ago, is you have an amazing tale about how
Speaker 1: you got into the media. You've had an amazing run
Speaker 1: here in in radio and TV and all that, but
Speaker 1: you didn't really plan on doing. Is that accurate? You
Speaker 1: were in Guam hanging out at a restaurant working? Is that?
Speaker 1: Am I getting the story right? I remember you told
Speaker 1: me the story? Is that accurate? Thing? What's accurate? That
Speaker 1: I was living on the Autoi Guam, Micronesia and I'm big,
Speaker 1: very big hot fi day sports pants, all about Tomorrow
Speaker 1: Brothers and on the island of bomb the Great. Uh. Really,
Speaker 1: how territory? How did you pick? As? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the actual, uh political nature. It's
Speaker 1: a trust territory of the United States, like Puerto Rico basically.
Speaker 1: And I was traveling and my goal was always to
Speaker 1: get on TV. That was always my goal. I wanted.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a telebrate, his sportscaster. And I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew my my destiny. I just was trying to
Speaker 1: forge your destiny. And I was working as a assistant
Speaker 1: beverage manager at the Granmrif Hotel on two month day,
Speaker 1: beautiful two month day and bam, and I was attending
Speaker 1: a Korannas club lunching when all of a sudden, a
Speaker 1: camera crew uh came into the the top of the
Speaker 1: reef ball room and I was shocked because a I
Speaker 1: flew and it slept through the island. About six months before,
Speaker 1: I had knocked out old TV stations, so I didn't
Speaker 1: even know there was a TV station on the air,
Speaker 1: but they were on the air. They came back on
Speaker 1: the air and they were they were doing a little,
Speaker 1: uh you know, afternoon's voice over deal with a local
Speaker 1: political type. And I said, wow, you guys are back
Speaker 1: on the air. Do you guys need a sportscaster? They said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not we need a sportscaster. I don't
Speaker 1: wet the person. I said, you're kidding. They said, you should,
Speaker 1: you should apply, So I, you know, I applied the
Speaker 1: next day for a sportscasting gig and I got it.
Speaker 1: And that was my first job on the airwaves as
Speaker 1: a as a sportscaster on Guam Cable TV, g C
Speaker 1: t V just a Circle nineteen eighty and so, how
Speaker 1: how long did you last in Guam before you moved
Speaker 1: on to something else? Well, one year I had an
Speaker 1: amazing teachers. I had Felt Hawkins, who was a adventure
Speaker 1: journalist from the East Coast who had great experience, and
Speaker 1: he came and became the news director. He became a
Speaker 1: news director, and he guided me, you know, he gave
Speaker 1: me the you know, the fundamentals. Was a sensational teacher.
Speaker 1: Felts Hawkins is my original news director and I believe
Speaker 1: he's I'm not sure where where it Felps is now?
Speaker 1: Is there a great name Felts Hawkins rich news director?
Speaker 1: And oh it was a really cool dude. Man. He
Speaker 1: was incredibly I'm trying to compare them to someone you
Speaker 1: know on the air today. He was just a multi
Speaker 1: skilled journalist and just the pure heart. I mean it
Speaker 1: had to go to to guaB to be a news director.
Speaker 1: You know. He had a great sense of adventure. But
Speaker 1: he was my really, my first um television professor. You know,
Speaker 1: he said, he he laid he laid down the basics
Speaker 1: for me and I just a wonderful team. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gand Cable TV and worked there for a year.
Speaker 1: Put together an audition tape. And I was still working
Speaker 1: at a systant beverage manager of the Grand ref Hotel,
Speaker 1: so I was busy and I was you know, I
Speaker 1: was serving drains and managing the you know, the Top
Speaker 1: of the Reef hotel. Had a great band who were
Speaker 1: bad Fracasini band. He was Italian. He played the flute.
Speaker 1: He was the leader of the band, you know, a
Speaker 1: great Tomorrow local stiner. She was fantastic at a bass
Speaker 1: player from Newark, New Jersey. I just uh, real cool.
Speaker 1: They played the hits. So I was up there at nights,
Speaker 1: you know, supervising the room and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: digging with the band a little bit. And by day
Speaker 1: I was doing sports for gan Table TV. So it
Speaker 1: was really a fun, fun time. But you know, my
Speaker 1: sites were set of course on coming coming back to
Speaker 1: the United States and getting a gig somewhere in America,
Speaker 1: small station somewhere. So I started sending out to you know,
Speaker 1: my three quarter inch video tapes back in the day
Speaker 1: the way you know, but before digital, before computers, there
Speaker 1: was a tape and film, and you know, these archaic
Speaker 1: troums of communication not even used today. I don't believe
Speaker 1: there's a three quarter which we see used today in
Speaker 1: any market. I don't think so I would I would
Speaker 1: hope not, Vick at this point, I would that makes
Speaker 1: you a long way to go. But enjoyed the journey.
Speaker 1: Enjoyed the journey. So after being rejected bad by about
Speaker 1: you know, two hunded stations, they said, you are not
Speaker 1: you an animals stay in grob You're a circus act. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I had very high energy and I was not
Speaker 1: influenced by anyone, because I had movie. I had been
Speaker 1: on the road for about you know, five years, traveling
Speaker 1: so East Asia and the South Seas, and you know,
Speaker 1: if I really had no template, I had no I
Speaker 1: had no one to base any style on except my
Speaker 1: own guts. So with my own gut, I developed a
Speaker 1: style which was fun, you know, communicative facts, frenzy and
Speaker 1: a video boo. And it was really too too harsh
Speaker 1: of a concept at the time, you know, succer ninet
Speaker 1: TV America to accept such a style, so I was rejected.
Speaker 1: I would say, every market, small market, large market, from Laredo, Texas,
Speaker 1: you know, to to Chico, California. Everyone said, you know,
Speaker 1: you're a freak. You're a freak. You know, North Dakota,
Speaker 1: South Dakota. You know. It was nuts, I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: said no. But finally, finally I returned home and made
Speaker 1: the great loop, you know, back to New York halls,
Speaker 1: back in Queens and New Yorks and the tapes, and
Speaker 1: I got a big break when Dave Brown, who was
Speaker 1: a news director at k b I, MTV and Roswalell,
Speaker 1: New Mexico and number one eight eight market in America.
Speaker 1: Beautiful Roswell, New Mexico. Of course you know, home of
Speaker 1: the Hall of the Aliens. But this was doc in
Speaker 1: the eight eight, two eighty I'm sorry, nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: They said, Dick, why don't you come in for an interview.
Speaker 1: Let's talk it over. So of course I grabbed the
Speaker 1: greyhound bus from New York to Roswell, two and a
Speaker 1: half days across the country, grabbed the interview with Dave Brown,
Speaker 1: and I got lucky. We connected. And the only reason
Speaker 1: we connected it is because his parents would teachers on
Speaker 1: the island of Gum. We had the gland connection. He
Speaker 1: hired me, and he hired me. He said, okay, z
Speaker 1: he'll do you know, you shoot, you shoot the video
Speaker 1: on the weekends and during I mean you'll do shoot
Speaker 1: there during the week and on the weekend, will be
Speaker 1: the sports guy. I said, fantastic. And that was that.
Speaker 1: That was a Eureka. That was the That was the
Speaker 1: big America. That was a big mainland break. So God
Speaker 1: blessed Guam, God blessed laws in New Mexico, Dave Brown
Speaker 1: and KB I am the CBS affiliate and beautiful Roswell
Speaker 1: in New Mexico, Southeastern New Mexico, now VIC. When you
Speaker 1: were in Roswell, did you ever see the the aliens?
Speaker 1: You think you think they were still hanging out there? No,
Speaker 1: when I was there. It's funny, this isn't either way.
Speaker 1: Before David Duchovny and X Files, they were really sweeping
Speaker 1: it under the table. They really didn't want to be
Speaker 1: affiliated with that alien vibe. It wasn't until years later
Speaker 1: they discovered, you know what, there's millions and dollars of
Speaker 1: tourism money to be discovered if we reconnect with our
Speaker 1: with our alien connection. And they did. But when I
Speaker 1: was there in nineteen eighty, it was really under the
Speaker 1: under the radar, so to speak. You know, it was
Speaker 1: nowhere to be seen. Yeah, so I really had no.
Speaker 1: I I would have loved that. I would have will
Speaker 1: because you know, obviously I'm an X File fan, always
Speaker 1: have been. You know, I still have you know, X
Speaker 1: Files memorabilia. You know in the endo, you love D Company,
Speaker 1: love D Company. He loved the show and you know
Speaker 1: the writing is unbelievable and it's just one of those
Speaker 1: great TV shows. I think they will live on in
Speaker 1: the history of the medium. Yeah, you could have totally
Speaker 1: played that when when you said Roswell vic my in
Speaker 1: my head, I visioned you on television wearing like an
Speaker 1: alien costume doing the sports in my head. But as
Speaker 1: you said, they didn't really embrace that back in that
Speaker 1: would have been that would have been a good concept,
Speaker 1: but the aliens were not in the in the mindset
Speaker 1: of the people at that time. It really wasn't almost
Speaker 1: an embarrassing thing, uh for the people you know of
Speaker 1: southeastern New Mexico, because they hadn't come to grips, you know,
Speaker 1: with with with you know how popular it Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I got the fible flying objects was going to be.
Speaker 1: And of course alien life in the eighties was you know,
Speaker 1: was shunned. And basically if you're a point that you
Speaker 1: know you was coined the phrase alienated, but you were
Speaker 1: alienated if you start talking about aliens, because it was
Speaker 1: it was it were almost tat blue. So I never
Speaker 1: really ran into anyone who were counted aliens when I
Speaker 1: was in Russell for that one year. But you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know they cashed in later. But you know with
Speaker 1: the advent of X files and the gray alien claze.
Speaker 1: You know that's still going on in this country because
Speaker 1: you know, we're fascinated without a space and inner space,
Speaker 1: and of course my favorite the ocean. I'm still I'm
Speaker 1: a digualte of the deep blue sea. That's where the
Speaker 1: answers are in the ocean, So at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the ocean, that's where everything. Now, over the years, Vic,
Speaker 1: I've had people that say the Earth is flat, that
Speaker 1: the Earth is hollow. Uh where you ad on that,
Speaker 1: vic A that yeah, the Earth is hollow. You think
Speaker 1: there's like a hole somewhere in the middle of and
Speaker 1: going deep down in the Give me like, no, you know,
Speaker 1: let's take such an incredible technology. Yeah we should know.
Speaker 1: Body help you the track that Kyrie irving exactly. Now.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this, Vic. When I my first
Speaker 1: memory of seeing Victor break, you were on Channel thirteen
Speaker 1: in l A. You had the crazy jackets on and
Speaker 1: you were throwing these foam bricks at the camera, which
Speaker 1: I thought was great. I love that that was that
Speaker 1: was It was hilarious to me. Vic. You were so
Speaker 1: different than everyone else on TV doing that. Where did
Speaker 1: that start? Did that start in Roswell. At what point
Speaker 1: did you decide you see the break just like that?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I was meditating on the a
Speaker 1: pollto Guam. He in a stick? I said, what rhymes
Speaker 1: with vic? What rhymes with vick? I know how about
Speaker 1: the brick? And what I'll do is I'll have a
Speaker 1: full rubber brick and throw it at the camera and
Speaker 1: in my moments of anguish and frustration and exasperation, I
Speaker 1: will throw the brick at the camera and create a
Speaker 1: crashing sound effect when the when the brick hits the camera,
Speaker 1: and that will be outrages. It'll be fun. So the
Speaker 1: little start of the island of Guam, that was where
Speaker 1: the concept began. That was the genesis of the brick.
Speaker 1: I was searching for stick, as we all are. You know,
Speaker 1: we're searching for were searching for something that will move
Speaker 1: the audience and move you as well. And once you
Speaker 1: are moved and the audience has moved you, not the magic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you people don't. I don't think a lot of
Speaker 1: people You've talked about this, but you went to Cornell, right,
Speaker 1: that's a major it's an Ivy League institution. You you
Speaker 1: went through a big time university. Uh, back in the day.
Speaker 1: What was Cornell like back then? High above Cayuga's words,
Speaker 1: sensational institution of learning. Uh. I don't know how I
Speaker 1: got in. Basically, I get very lucky because I spent
Speaker 1: my first two years of Courtland State in in Carton,
Speaker 1: New York, home of the Red Dragons, and I had
Speaker 1: taken a lot of creative writing courses, and I had
Speaker 1: an incredible professor and Paul Blackburn, who was the leader
Speaker 1: of the of the Black Mountain Movements, who had studied
Speaker 1: and had written with Alan Ginsburg and Joe Oppenheimer and
Speaker 1: some of the great American poets over time and space.
Speaker 1: And I had taken courses with him, and he was
Speaker 1: teaching me how to write, which, of course just the
Speaker 1: core of every sensational communicator is writing. Because once you
Speaker 1: can write, and you can flow with your spit with
Speaker 1: your with your writing, then you half were there. But
Speaker 1: I sensational sensational academia at Courtland, but I really ran
Speaker 1: out of courses and Cornell was thirty miles away, and
Speaker 1: it was a great school, Ivy League school, and I
Speaker 1: petitioned for an interview my mom my marks were high,
Speaker 1: but I didn't have the pedigree. He didn't have the
Speaker 1: I didn't have the uh, the taple of fair you know,
Speaker 1: really of the typical Cornell student. Basically, I told him, listen,
Speaker 1: I write a lot of poetry. I told my admissions guide.
Speaker 1: I wrote, I write a lot of poetry and I
Speaker 1: play a lot of basketball. They said, you are an unusual,
Speaker 1: unusual Cornell flavor. You have to come in for an interview.
Speaker 1: I said I would love to. So I came in
Speaker 1: for the interview, and I really went desperation. I went
Speaker 1: desperation on the interview. Don't asked y. His name was
Speaker 1: Gordon Peck. He was the head of admissions. He was
Speaker 1: a cool dude. And I just said, Gordon, listen, if
Speaker 1: I don't get into Cornell, I will slip into the
Speaker 1: bowery and start drinking and become an alcoholic. Do you
Speaker 1: really want it on your consciousness? And he starts laughing,
Speaker 1: and it was great, that is a last. We don't
Speaker 1: have many people like you were Cornell. Let us reconsider
Speaker 1: your application at six six weeks later, I was in wow.
Speaker 1: I was sorry. It was a lucky break. You know,
Speaker 1: this was you know, pre digital, pre computer everything. It
Speaker 1: was done on the phone or in person. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you just you know, this is struck a nineteen what right,
Speaker 1: mid seventies, seventies I'm thinking seventy two two. So you
Speaker 1: charmed them to, you charmed them, You charmed your way
Speaker 1: into Cornell. I got lucky. I had a He was
Speaker 1: a very embracing dude. He was open. You know, he
Speaker 1: didn't want the same type you know of Cornell, you know,
Speaker 1: a's across the board private school. Uh. He wanted a
Speaker 1: little something different, and he was willing to take the chance.
Speaker 1: And I said, Gordon Peck till till this day. He
Speaker 1: was a tremendous dude, an adventure and in that academic
Speaker 1: careum fighter. Well, there have been some Cornell's a famous school.
Speaker 1: Anybody did you go to school with anybody that also
Speaker 1: made it in the business. I've been a number of
Speaker 1: media people that came out of Cornell over the years.
Speaker 1: Did anyone around that time that you went to school
Speaker 1: with turn out to have a big career? Well, Keith Alberman,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Cornell. Am I was not there when
Speaker 1: when uh when Keith was there? But I think we
Speaker 1: just sort of overlapped one another. Okay. I think Bill
Speaker 1: and I went there too. That science guy, I think
Speaker 1: he do not the science guy. Yeah, there's some notable alumni, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: notable notable alumni. Some point. I s stational school, our
Speaker 1: gorgeous school waterfalls on campus. Uh. I lived in a
Speaker 1: dorm my first year at Prudence Risley Hall, which was
Speaker 1: right above a beautiful gorge, a sensation thirty ft drop
Speaker 1: that engineering students would so sometimes plunge into after a
Speaker 1: pretty down semester. But bottom washers. I never told I
Speaker 1: couldn't take it that seriously because I was basically you know,
Speaker 1: getting sees. But the it was an intense academic regime,
Speaker 1: especially for myself. But I got through it, you know,
Speaker 1: grinded it out. But there's a sensational school, no doubt,
Speaker 1: and the higher rough CAYU resorters and a big shout out,
Speaker 1: you know to all the cornell all the Cornelians out
Speaker 1: there and everybody grinding through because it's you know, let's basic.
Speaker 1: You know, college is tough, Coate College. It's such an
Speaker 1: unlike and likely experience I recommended. But you know, in
Speaker 1: these times of you know, incredible overnight success stories, you
Speaker 1: know via social media, it's it's amazing. The transformation, especially
Speaker 1: you know in the broadcast enter industry and how it's
Speaker 1: all it's all changed. You know, that's unbelievable. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: if you would, if you had been around, you know,
Speaker 1: if you'd start out now, you would have been like
Speaker 1: a YouTube star or a TikTok's kikok man. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: all TikTok. Yeah, tiptok. Everything would be tiptok. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: play TikTok. I'm not shocked. Look at me. I'm on TikTok.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it would be so different. There
Speaker 1: be no tape to be very everybody will be digital.
Speaker 1: Everything would be you know, on the web, and it's
Speaker 1: a it's a different it's a different adventure right now
Speaker 1: when I and I employed everyone who goes on that
Speaker 1: great adventure and enjoy it. Yeah. And you when we
Speaker 1: were starting out AM eleven fifty which became now you
Speaker 1: know M five seventy in l A. You hosted, you
Speaker 1: were alongside, you were the John Stockton a radio with
Speaker 1: Carl Malone back in the beautiful back in the day.
Speaker 1: And I remember when we walked into Mike Thompson's office
Speaker 1: and you know, not you were not part of that,
Speaker 1: but he explained that he was gonna hire Carl Malone.
Speaker 1: At the time, Malone was still playing for the Utah
Speaker 1: Jazz and it was only supposed to be like a
Speaker 1: temporary type thing, and Victor break that thing lasted a
Speaker 1: long time, the Carl Malone show. And you you were
Speaker 1: right alongside setting the Mailman up. What do you remember
Speaker 1: about that? What was your favorite part of that show?
Speaker 1: The greatest part and thank you for love for the
Speaker 1: Mailman carm alone was it was was called honestly because
Speaker 1: he knew from the beginning. I definitely had some serious
Speaker 1: attitude towards him because of his uh archaic uh attitude
Speaker 1: towards Magic Johnson, of course, and and the whole age
Speaker 1: controversy when he when he came out looking, you know,
Speaker 1: so ridiculous and sheltered, and I held it against call
Speaker 1: can not be you know, more open, you know, to
Speaker 1: the situation. But he gets did He just didn't have
Speaker 1: the knowledge, uh as a lot of people didn't. But obviously,
Speaker 1: after spending so many great sessions to call and talking
Speaker 1: to him, I realized he's really a great, a great
Speaker 1: soul who just didn't lack knowledge, and I tried to
Speaker 1: enlighten him give him a knowledge and he you know,
Speaker 1: he broughtened his spectrum and I was surprised, you know
Speaker 1: at his amazing array a subject matter that you know,
Speaker 1: he could speak so beautifully on, you know, from from
Speaker 1: you know, flying airplane, uh, to chopping wood, you know,
Speaker 1: to his trucking empire. Uh. You know, we we we
Speaker 1: didn't talk much to It was mostly about life. Calm
Speaker 1: Alone on life, and he was sensational. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about a zen are we're talking about We were
Speaker 1: talking about in a life, philosophy and family and gun
Speaker 1: control and you know flying the airplane. Always wanted to
Speaker 1: be you know, uh in the aeronautics industry. And his
Speaker 1: amazing uh you know, business acumen. And of course you
Speaker 1: know food, you know what he'd had to lunch that day,
Speaker 1: what he was the menu? It was up fascinating And
Speaker 1: of course you know I grew up to you know,
Speaker 1: to up Calm Alone, a good friend of mine. It
Speaker 1: was really an open spirit and uh, I really I
Speaker 1: cherished those days with the mail man. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a fun, crazy time we had. The Malone came in,
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw came in shortly after that. It was a
Speaker 1: wild time. At that station. But I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: go back to around that time. I think it was
Speaker 1: the year two thousand, Dick, one of my other favorite
Speaker 1: Victor Bricks stories. The Lakers were playing the Indiana Pacers
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, So whatever year that was, and
Speaker 1: I was doing a show with Dave Smith out where
Speaker 1: there's a store now at what used to be Staples Center,
Speaker 1: and we were gonna do this post game after the Lakers,
Speaker 1: you know, gonna win the championship and all that, and
Speaker 1: so we were gonna do the postgame thing. Well, they
Speaker 1: had a bunch of fans that were watching the game
Speaker 1: on the video board, and the Lakers won, and there
Speaker 1: was civil unrest there were we were watching. This happened
Speaker 1: right in front of us as we were preparing to
Speaker 1: do the show, and uh, there was a fire that
Speaker 1: was set. People were running around dancing. It turned out
Speaker 1: to be a like a small riot in downtown l
Speaker 1: A after the Lakers had won. And I remember, Vic,
Speaker 1: we sent you out in the Mayhem as our roving reporter,
Speaker 1: and I will never forget the people loved you, but
Speaker 1: we were concerned about you. But there were police everyone
Speaker 1: right gear and all kinds. It was a lockdown situation
Speaker 1: and you were strolling around VIC. Do you remember that
Speaker 1: night in the middle of all the chaos that was
Speaker 1: going on around that arena, there was a point of lake.
Speaker 1: It was amazing, great course rows of emotions for everyone,
Speaker 1: and I did. I roamed into the into the frame. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was my heart was torn because I saw the
Speaker 1: see of God being you know, being you know, split
Speaker 1: when we all should have been under the umbrella of love.
Speaker 1: But obviously it was an opportunity, you know for negative
Speaker 1: energy to enter the situation. And I believe they had
Speaker 1: set fire to a police car. And I went into
Speaker 1: the fray and I saw about I would say, fifty
Speaker 1: fifty to a hundred, uh, police and riot care just
Speaker 1: standing there around the bonding police car. And I went
Speaker 1: into that frame with the fans and was reporting what
Speaker 1: was happening. That's you know, there was a you know,
Speaker 1: a a section of the city that was out of control.
Speaker 1: But you of of the fans were you know, we're
Speaker 1: celebrating beautifully, but there was you know, there wasn't an
Speaker 1: ugly percentage you know that had lost control. And obviously
Speaker 1: we all lose, you know, with the optics when everyone sees,
Speaker 1: you know, the the flames and the overturned vehicles and
Speaker 1: me and the broken window. So everyone loses when when
Speaker 1: those optics are revealed, you know, to the world. But
Speaker 1: being there, I knew it was just a very small
Speaker 1: fraction you know of Los Angeles that had that had releases,
Speaker 1: you know, this toxicity you know, on this beauty, on
Speaker 1: this beautiful moment. And I reported it as I saw it,
Speaker 1: and I know you were very concerned, but I was
Speaker 1: safe at all times if fans had my back, But
Speaker 1: I just wanted to, you know, report the truth what
Speaker 1: was going on, you know, right in front of which
Speaker 1: was then Staples centered the downtown Hoopoe which is now
Speaker 1: you know Crypto dot Com. But at that time it
Speaker 1: was since a very very razor's edge of motion, and
Speaker 1: it was scary, no doubt. I was, you know, I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I was in fear for the city. I
Speaker 1: was never in fearful for for myself. I wasn't fearful
Speaker 1: the for the city of losing it. But the people
Speaker 1: came together and great patience for the l a p
Speaker 1: D and the and the riot squad in their patients,
Speaker 1: but they did not make any major MUVEs of of violence.
Speaker 1: You know, they protected you know, the brunt out police car,
Speaker 1: but they did not descend on the crowd and they
Speaker 1: let the crowd you know, break up and you know, peaceably.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it was handled, you know, with
Speaker 1: incredible skill, incredible skill, but it was scary, and I
Speaker 1: know you guys were inside I would I'm I'm reporting
Speaker 1: it as best I can. And there's some very hot
Speaker 1: start conditions. But let's face it, Uh, this this is
Speaker 1: what we do. We have to spread the truth and
Speaker 1: tell the people what's going on. And that's that. That
Speaker 1: was that was vital and to be that people are yeah, no,
Speaker 1: and we were there. We had a glass window in
Speaker 1: front of us, and we had the window to the
Speaker 1: where we we could only see what was going on
Speaker 1: right on the street in front of the arena as
Speaker 1: they were dancing around a bonfire. And I remember walking
Speaker 1: back to my car that night, Vic and it was
Speaker 1: the police car that was burned out. There was a
Speaker 1: TV news van from Channel two in l A that
Speaker 1: also got burned up in that and the smell of that, well,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. But the fans just loved you and
Speaker 1: and all that. Now moving on, you don't have too
Speaker 1: much time, so I wanted to get to this. Now.
Speaker 1: You have been beloved by the athletes in l A
Speaker 1: and I was trying to think, is there a top
Speaker 1: five list of athletes over the years, VIC that have
Speaker 1: really bonded with the pont Choke. I can think of
Speaker 1: two off the top of my head. The Lake, Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 1: You had a good relationship with Kobe and and Yasi
Speaker 1: from the Dodgers. Who else would be on that shortlist? VIC?
Speaker 1: Of guys that really got you and you connected with
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant got among men is of course my all
Speaker 1: time blots that brother. He is a spirit that will
Speaker 1: live on eternally. That's just hear less hands listened around
Speaker 1: the world, and I love that man. I missed that
Speaker 1: man so much. We all do bless Code, Bless Code,
Speaker 1: and bless Vanessa and the girls. He connected and always
Speaker 1: had my back. I just saw a recent post where
Speaker 1: Steve Nash was a member of the Phoenix Suns and
Speaker 1: we're doing they'll play the Lakers during a polities And
Speaker 1: I also really no question to Nis said Steve, do
Speaker 1: you expect so much production from the Laker boost tonight?
Speaker 1: And I'm wearing my local punstre of course, and the
Speaker 1: Laker and the Laker analyism, you know, the purple and
Speaker 1: goals for Mike for and Nash he was he was funny.
Speaker 1: He says, do I detected New York sack accent? And
Speaker 1: if so, why are you a Laker fan? And I said, Steve,
Speaker 1: I'm locking the purple and gold and we're in this
Speaker 1: town and it's a Laker town man and the Lakers
Speaker 1: or the squad. And he said, I'm disappointed. And so
Speaker 1: two days later, Colby's at the podium, same series and
Speaker 1: code are masking Cobe asking Kobe a question, and even
Speaker 1: before I asked the question, Kobe says that I don't
Speaker 1: know what Steve Nash is talking about, but I got
Speaker 1: your back, man, I got your ball with So we're
Speaker 1: wearing the Laker puntre. And this is before I even spoke,
Speaker 1: and he said, Thanky Cobe, thanky man had my back.
Speaker 1: We'll just grass here, said he. That's just the class
Speaker 1: of Kobe Bryant, the incredible dignity and class of Kobe
Speaker 1: being Bryant. We love him forever. Hold us connected with
Speaker 1: the point show up. I have to say many Ramire's
Speaker 1: love many Ramiro's. Of course, you see how queed right
Speaker 1: now in the current the current Dodgers justin Turner at Summurai,
Speaker 1: very very into the way of the poncho, the way
Speaker 1: of the Summurai. Another Dodger, I would say, Dave Roberts
Speaker 1: also very in tune with the poncho and the way
Speaker 1: of the warrior. And bless the oars old to see her.
Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman is gonna have an amazing game. And I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just you know, coming to see what an
Speaker 1: altar curb current ball there. But Freddy Freeman swing. Wow,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is we haven't had a
Speaker 1: I can't think of a sweetest swing in a while.
Speaker 1: He makes in contact so it seems so simple. And
Speaker 1: when he goes opposite field, I just love how he
Speaker 1: inside outs, you know, I late just a single to left.
Speaker 1: I just love that. It kind of reminds me. We know,
Speaker 1: Bellinger was in the groove of a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago in the NBP season, you know, when Billy was
Speaker 1: such a zone. You know, the praise in that zone
Speaker 1: like every attack, that's the listen, We're in the Goldilocks
Speaker 1: zone with the dodge. I mean we've been around for
Speaker 1: a while. You've been around longer than I have. But
Speaker 1: you remember the Dodgers back in the day, they'd go years,
Speaker 1: or they'd be kind of mediocre, average teams. The last
Speaker 1: ten years of Dodger baseball, they've become like the old Yankees.
Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs or the Atlanta Bridge there in
Speaker 1: the payoffs every year. It's a birth right now to
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs for the Dodgers. There, you're almost
Speaker 1: guarantee a joke. It's a joker knut. It's a joker nut.
Speaker 1: And I don't I believe that Billy had one more
Speaker 1: starting pitcher. What the one starting get total domination. The
Speaker 1: starting lineup is really strong. Other other clubs improved, But
Speaker 1: that's pretty Freeman into this. Commix just gives Day Roberts
Speaker 1: so much mobility and freedom to X and match and
Speaker 1: you know, get incredible setups. You know, left right, left, right,
Speaker 1: left right. If there isn't an easy out, if you've
Speaker 1: better grind through a lineup man and you got to
Speaker 1: go through Freeman, and you're gonna go through beds, and
Speaker 1: you're gonn to go through the turners, and then you
Speaker 1: gotta go through monthly and then you know you gotta
Speaker 1: go through Will Smith and then you know it's just wild,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Haylor, it's just you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a wild lineup. I just love it. So
Speaker 1: it's just a tremendous thing to see. And I just
Speaker 1: love seeing Clayton car shot. Pie was so all by
Speaker 1: the way, if anyone for me, the revelation of the
Speaker 1: spring has been Clayton show every day. The ball seems
Speaker 1: to have a nice break, nice velocity. You know, it
Speaker 1: seems like he's going to be the Clayton you know,
Speaker 1: I think Clay's gonna win towards the fifteen games this year,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be uh sensational. Oh yes, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a wonderful year. And you know, and of course
Speaker 1: the boat tend of looks strong and walk compusersm you know,
Speaker 1: a warrior. It's it's going to be wonderful watching Dodger
Speaker 1: Baseball to see it. But I'll tell you there's a
Speaker 1: lot of clubs up there. You know, Dave Roberts gave
Speaker 1: the guarantee, so let's play him out. That's have some
Speaker 1: fun and enjoy the game. We got hoartball man, that's
Speaker 1: the key. Yeah, we got some heartball man. We got
Speaker 1: baseball's coming, baseball, real baseball coming. They got the baseball.
Speaker 1: Ben next week, Vic, I gotta I gotta go out
Speaker 1: and see at the ball park. I'm gonna hang out
Speaker 1: and we gotta break bread. Me and you. I have
Speaker 1: not seen you in too long. Vic. We're gonna break
Speaker 1: bread at some point. That's in the near future. Mack.
Speaker 1: We gotta make that happen. Gotta make that and more.
Speaker 1: They're finding some health issuels. But you know, day by day,
Speaker 1: day by day, Ben, how are you doing? I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you, but I know you Mom momento, I saw
Speaker 1: still the enemy. It's just amount of control. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just controlling it, you know. Day by day we
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, I'm grinding to a very
Speaker 1: tough at back. Alright, alright, whatever we can do a
Speaker 1: top of that, and uh, let's stay. Every picture is
Speaker 1: a blessing. Yeah, you're a Hall of Famer, Victo. You're
Speaker 1: in the aren't you in the Southern California Jewish Sports
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Right? I read that you're a few
Speaker 1: years ago you how about that Hall of Famer Victor
Speaker 1: brick in the Hall of Fame. Awesome, Save Hartin was
Speaker 1: parting all right. Listen, Vick, I love you man, get
Speaker 1: that health back. You keep fighting the fight and uh
Speaker 1: and thank you for doing this. I appreciate it well.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You've a wonderful show. Everyone listen to Ben
Speaker 1: Malla man. It's a stake and sill. Ben. You are
Speaker 1: a warrior as well. Your longevity and your your tape
Speaker 1: and your content have been fantastic for decades. I always
Speaker 1: love listening to you and hanging with you. You are
Speaker 1: great vibe, loving you, Bella. You're the man. Vic, Thank
Speaker 1: you do