WEBVTT - Vic "The Brick" Is Feelin' You! 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:05.480 Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.200 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.480 of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.480 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.600 rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house of 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.439 hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:32.160 with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:37.159 The Friday edition of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:43.199 and Danny g Radio is back in the Magic Podcast Studio. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:49.400 Happy April Fool's Day. So exciting. Here we are together 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:53.080 on April Fool's Day, and I am fired up. This 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.120 is someone who I've wanted to get on the podcast 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.440 and have not been able to put off the last 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.160 couple of years. I don't know why. That's that's an outrage, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.280 It's not right, but we are fired up to welcome 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.080 in someone that I have known for almost thirty years. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.280 It shocks me to think that I've known anyone for 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.920 that long, that I'm even that old to have known 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:20.880 someone for that long. But a staple of Los Angeles 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.199 Sports Media, a part of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:33.240 Association and a man with tremendous bohemian tendencies, the very quirky, 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:38.560 eccentric Vic the Brick Jacobs, a true free spirit and 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.039 a man who was a pioneer ahead of his time. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.640 And I've wanted to get Vic on the record because 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.480 he told me some amazing stories back in the day 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.360 about how he started his journey in radio. Now, if 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.360 you're unfamiliar with Vick, Vick worked at Fox Sports Radio 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.840 with the Loose Cannons and and worked on FSR for 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.480 a number of years. He's part of the FSR Alumni Association. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.760 But he is still a beloved hero in Los Angeles 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.280 radio on AM five seventy, the flagship home of Fox 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:16.360 Sports Radio, the Dodger station in Los Angeles. Very unique, uh, 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.919 A breath of fresh air, Vic the Brick. These are 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.280 all phrases and things that you can say about the 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:27.600 unconventional approach to broadcasting, the high coups and all that. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.359 But we have been through a lot over the years. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.920 Myself and Vic we helped launch AM eleven fifty, the 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:39.040 all sports station in Los Angeles that became the station 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.440 that it is today, moving down the AM dial. But 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.280 rather than me go on and on and give you 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.920 the very distinguished resume of Victor Brick, who has traveled 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.080 the globe. He's a globe trekker with his unorthodox style, 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.280 which is ironic because he's very koshert but certainly outlandish 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.640 at times. So let's get in to it with the 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.679 great Vic, the Brick Jacobs and Vic welcome. First of all, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.920 good to have you, and I consider you the Dean 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:14.600 of Los Angeles Sports Radio. Vic. Is that an accurate statement? 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:20.400 My man? Well feeling you, Ben, and that statement it's 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.000 a delusion because you were deluded and I love that 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:28.119 about you. Well, no, there's only one dean. There's only 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.920 one dean, but Brogan the dean, Well Fred friends, the 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.880 dean of like TV. Right, But I'm telling I'm just 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.040 in you know, in radio. I know you did TV too, Vick, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:42.600 But radio, the radio airways, just radio alone, Vick, that 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:50.200 medium that is your domain. Well, again, I believe you. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.400 You are experimenting with the Pilotybic Mushroom said, beginning to 0:03:55.400 --> 0:04:01.480 experiment with the game, to gain clarity and again to 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.760 be part of the at the rainbow of radio. For me, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.520 it's a great blessing because we love it so but 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.720 that the pick of me in those growing toms been. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.880 I believe you have a you get them to the 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:21.160 secret source about you? Well as you know, you know 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.040 me a long time, Vick. We go way back, mean 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.160 you and but I know what I wanted you to do. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.479 We people turn over. As you know, Vick, a lifetime broadcaster, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.160 you know that people turn over and whatnot. The audience 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.720 turns over. So I was like, how can I explain 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.200 the magic for somebody who has not heard you over 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.320 the years, somebody not in l A. Somebody. Let's say 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.960 there's a person vic in des Moines, Iowa, who maybe 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.000 has never heard of the legend of Victor Brick. How 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:54.160 would you describe, Vic, what you bring to the magic 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:59.920 radio box? Your your style, you're you're a debonair personnel. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:04.120 How would you describe that big That's an excellent question. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.440 I bring the soul, I bring the tranquility. I bring 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:14.200 the purity. Think of an ancient Japanese walking teeth ceremony, 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.680 and that is where I try to embrace right from 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:23.200 the soul, right from the essence, attention to detail, leave 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:29.839 no stone unturned, but the presentation must be beautiful and 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:34.240 from the heart and That's how I presented. It's it's all. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.279 It's all from the sports soul. Try to get to 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:43.240 the essence and try to give it Clary. Try to 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.839 bring tranquility from the tumult and Clary from the chaos. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.640 You you calm, And this is really important, especially the 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.240 last couple of years. I've not I've not run into you, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.720 and I haven't seen anybody. We've all been in our 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.720 little caves here Vic over the last couple of years. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:03.200 But you are right your coming influences. I'm trying, like, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.599 when's the last time I used to run into you 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.120 all the time? When's the last time we hung out? 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.440 It had to be at least twenty eighteen, maybe twenty nineteen, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.719 It's it might even be before that. It's been a 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.120 long time. Then we gotta hang out one of these days. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.720 Then it had to be before a Clipper game, because 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.760 I know you're you're always a big fan of the Clippers. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.919 You're not a band ragging Clipper fan, but you believe 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.680 in the Clippers. Before we have the media really bored 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.240 into the Clippers with the vibe of the Clips. And 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.400 it had to be at a Clipper game, probably at 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.920 pregame press coppers. Yeah, that's my that's my best. Yeah. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.720 It was probably something like that or a dodgery game 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.479 might have been a dodgery game, dodr game, a Laker again, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.200 but I'm gonna go Clippers because it's the odds, the 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.880 it's the odd squawed out. Yeah. Well listen, I know, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.240 do you do you own a Clipper poncho Vick? You 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.200 do not, right, you only have the Laker poncho. I 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.760 don't end the Dodger one lacer poncho Lake, the Laker 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:03.440 amulet forged by Laker and in Linwood. It was a 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.240 stainless steel Laker amulet that I would rock on my neck. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.680 And I'm shocked that I would not say a chiropractor 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:15.360 twice a week. We'll we'll get that now. My favorite, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.840 I got a couple of great Victor Brick when when 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.480 your name comes up Thick, I always tell tell a 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.920 few victim Brick stories. But the one that I wanted 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.440 you to share that you told me you told me 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.880 years ago, is you have an amazing tale about how 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.360 you got into the media. You've had an amazing run 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.960 here in in radio and TV and all that, but 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.960 you didn't really plan on doing. Is that accurate? You 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.800 were in Guam hanging out at a restaurant working? Is that? 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.960 Am I getting the story right? I remember you told 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.880 me the story? Is that accurate? Thing? What's accurate? That 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:53.320 I was living on the Autoi Guam, Micronesia and I'm big, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.560 very big hot fi day sports pants, all about Tomorrow 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:04.600 Brothers and on the island of bomb the Great. Uh. Really, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.760 how territory? How did you pick? As? I mean, I'm 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:15.560 trying to figure out the actual, uh political nature. It's 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.280 a trust territory of the United States, like Puerto Rico basically. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.200 And I was traveling and my goal was always to 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.160 get on TV. That was always my goal. I wanted. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.520 I wanted to be a telebrate, his sportscaster. And I knew, 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.199 I knew my my destiny. I just was trying to 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.560 forge your destiny. And I was working as a assistant 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.800 beverage manager at the Granmrif Hotel on two month day, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:46.360 beautiful two month day and bam, and I was attending 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.480 a Korannas club lunching when all of a sudden, a 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.120 camera crew uh came into the the top of the 0:08:54.120 --> 0:09:00.880 reef ball room and I was shocked because a I 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.440 flew and it slept through the island. About six months before, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.360 I had knocked out old TV stations, so I didn't 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.000 even know there was a TV station on the air, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.520 but they were on the air. They came back on 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.160 the air and they were they were doing a little, 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.840 uh you know, afternoon's voice over deal with a local 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.120 political type. And I said, wow, you guys are back 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.720 on the air. Do you guys need a sportscaster? They said, yeah, 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.480 you know, it's not we need a sportscaster. I don't 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.400 wet the person. I said, you're kidding. They said, you should, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.560 you should apply, So I, you know, I applied the 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:38.320 next day for a sportscasting gig and I got it. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.760 And that was my first job on the airwaves as 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:48.640 a as a sportscaster on Guam Cable TV, g C 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:56.360 t V just a Circle nineteen eighty and so, how 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.839 how long did you last in Guam before you moved 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:03.040 on to something else? Well, one year I had an 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:09.680 amazing teachers. I had Felt Hawkins, who was a adventure 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:14.800 journalist from the East Coast who had great experience, and 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.800 he came and became the news director. He became a 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.040 news director, and he guided me, you know, he gave 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.200 me the you know, the fundamentals. Was a sensational teacher. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:30.640 Felts Hawkins is my original news director and I believe 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.800 he's I'm not sure where where it Felps is now? 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.640 Is there a great name Felts Hawkins rich news director? 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.160 And oh it was a really cool dude. Man. He 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:46.320 was incredibly I'm trying to compare them to someone you 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.360 know on the air today. He was just a multi 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.959 skilled journalist and just the pure heart. I mean it 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.080 had to go to to guaB to be a news director. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.440 You know. He had a great sense of adventure. But 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:04.000 he was my really, my first um television professor. You know, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.800 he said, he he laid he laid down the basics 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:12.680 for me and I just a wonderful team. You know, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:17.800 I'm gand Cable TV and worked there for a year. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.200 Put together an audition tape. And I was still working 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.240 at a systant beverage manager of the Grand ref Hotel, 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.960 so I was busy and I was you know, I 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.560 was serving drains and managing the you know, the Top 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.440 of the Reef hotel. Had a great band who were 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:37.200 bad Fracasini band. He was Italian. He played the flute. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:38.959 He was the leader of the band, you know, a 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:43.240 great Tomorrow local stiner. She was fantastic at a bass 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.800 player from Newark, New Jersey. I just uh, real cool. 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.720 They played the hits. So I was up there at nights, 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.280 you know, supervising the room and you know, you know, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.720 digging with the band a little bit. And by day 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.640 I was doing sports for gan Table TV. So it 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.880 was really a fun, fun time. But you know, my 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.760 sites were set of course on coming coming back to 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.319 the United States and getting a gig somewhere in America, 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.440 small station somewhere. So I started sending out to you know, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.920 my three quarter inch video tapes back in the day 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.640 the way you know, but before digital, before computers, there 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.800 was a tape and film, and you know, these archaic 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:29.080 troums of communication not even used today. I don't believe 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.600 there's a three quarter which we see used today in 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.199 any market. I don't think so I would I would 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.280 hope not, Vick at this point, I would that makes 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.800 you a long way to go. But enjoyed the journey. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:46.079 Enjoyed the journey. So after being rejected bad by about 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.560 you know, two hunded stations, they said, you are not 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.959 you an animals stay in grob You're a circus act. Yeah, 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.280 because I had very high energy and I was not 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.679 influenced by anyone, because I had movie. I had been 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.400 on the road for about you know, five years, traveling 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.719 so East Asia and the South Seas, and you know, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.120 if I really had no template, I had no I 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.640 had no one to base any style on except my 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.959 own guts. So with my own gut, I developed a 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:20.080 style which was fun, you know, communicative facts, frenzy and 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.880 a video boo. And it was really too too harsh 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.520 of a concept at the time, you know, succer ninet 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.559 TV America to accept such a style, so I was rejected. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:37.679 I would say, every market, small market, large market, from Laredo, Texas, 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.120 you know, to to Chico, California. Everyone said, you know, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.560 you're a freak. You're a freak. You know, North Dakota, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.520 South Dakota. You know. It was nuts, I mean, everybody 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:54.719 said no. But finally, finally I returned home and made 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.680 the great loop, you know, back to New York halls, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.080 back in Queens and New Yorks and the tapes, and 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.520 I got a big break when Dave Brown, who was 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.319 a news director at k b I, MTV and Roswalell, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.920 New Mexico and number one eight eight market in America. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.280 Beautiful Roswell, New Mexico. Of course you know, home of 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.760 the Hall of the Aliens. But this was doc in 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:20.080 the eight eight, two eighty I'm sorry, nineteen eighty one. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.440 They said, Dick, why don't you come in for an interview. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.080 Let's talk it over. So of course I grabbed the 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.960 greyhound bus from New York to Roswell, two and a 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.760 half days across the country, grabbed the interview with Dave Brown, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.320 and I got lucky. We connected. And the only reason 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.200 we connected it is because his parents would teachers on 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:44.280 the island of Gum. We had the gland connection. He 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.960 hired me, and he hired me. He said, okay, z 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.920 he'll do you know, you shoot, you shoot the video 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.720 on the weekends and during I mean you'll do shoot 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.200 there during the week and on the weekend, will be 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:01.280 the sports guy. I said, fantastic. And that was that. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.800 That was a Eureka. That was the That was the 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.640 big America. That was a big mainland break. So God 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.000 blessed Guam, God blessed laws in New Mexico, Dave Brown 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.600 and KB I am the CBS affiliate and beautiful Roswell 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.480 in New Mexico, Southeastern New Mexico, now VIC. When you 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.880 were in Roswell, did you ever see the the aliens? 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.960 You think you think they were still hanging out there? No, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.040 when I was there. It's funny, this isn't either way. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.320 Before David Duchovny and X Files, they were really sweeping 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:32.960 it under the table. They really didn't want to be 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.200 affiliated with that alien vibe. It wasn't until years later 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.800 they discovered, you know what, there's millions and dollars of 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.360 tourism money to be discovered if we reconnect with our 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:47.840 with our alien connection. And they did. But when I 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.200 was there in nineteen eighty, it was really under the 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.760 under the radar, so to speak. You know, it was 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.200 nowhere to be seen. Yeah, so I really had no. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.320 I I would have loved that. I would have will 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:06.080 because you know, obviously I'm an X File fan, always 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.880 have been. You know, I still have you know, X 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.600 Files memorabilia. You know in the endo, you love D Company, 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.040 love D Company. He loved the show and you know 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.760 the writing is unbelievable and it's just one of those 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.400 great TV shows. I think they will live on in 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.920 the history of the medium. Yeah, you could have totally 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.880 played that when when you said Roswell vic my in 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.640 my head, I visioned you on television wearing like an 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.400 alien costume doing the sports in my head. But as 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.840 you said, they didn't really embrace that back in that 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.120 would have been that would have been a good concept, 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.040 but the aliens were not in the in the mindset 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.400 of the people at that time. It really wasn't almost 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.720 an embarrassing thing, uh for the people you know of 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.840 southeastern New Mexico, because they hadn't come to grips, you know, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.360 with with with you know how popular it Uh, you know, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.600 I got the fible flying objects was going to be. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.960 And of course alien life in the eighties was you know, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.359 was shunned. And basically if you're a point that you 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.800 know you was coined the phrase alienated, but you were 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.959 alienated if you start talking about aliens, because it was 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.840 it was it were almost tat blue. So I never 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.600 really ran into anyone who were counted aliens when I 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.959 was in Russell for that one year. But you know, obviously, 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.679 you know they cashed in later. But you know with 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.240 the advent of X files and the gray alien claze. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.000 You know that's still going on in this country because 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.399 you know, we're fascinated without a space and inner space, 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.360 and of course my favorite the ocean. I'm still I'm 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.600 a digualte of the deep blue sea. That's where the 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.159 answers are in the ocean, So at the bottom of 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.600 the ocean, that's where everything. Now, over the years, Vic, 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.720 I've had people that say the Earth is flat, that 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.760 the Earth is hollow. Uh where you ad on that, 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:05.480 vic A that yeah, the Earth is hollow. You think 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.199 there's like a hole somewhere in the middle of and 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:13.879 going deep down in the Give me like, no, you know, 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.679 let's take such an incredible technology. Yeah we should know. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:22.760 Body help you the track that Kyrie irving exactly. Now. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.800 I gotta ask you this, Vic. When I my first 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.960 memory of seeing Victor break, you were on Channel thirteen 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.320 in l A. You had the crazy jackets on and 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.800 you were throwing these foam bricks at the camera, which 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.760 I thought was great. I love that that was that 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.600 was It was hilarious to me. Vic. You were so 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.680 different than everyone else on TV doing that. Where did 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.320 that start? Did that start in Roswell. At what point 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:54.200 did you decide you see the break just like that? 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.800 That's a great question. I was meditating on the a 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:03.199 pollto Guam. He in a stick? I said, what rhymes 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:08.160 with vic? What rhymes with vick? I know how about 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.240 the brick? And what I'll do is I'll have a 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.280 full rubber brick and throw it at the camera and 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.679 in my moments of anguish and frustration and exasperation, I 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.560 will throw the brick at the camera and create a 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.840 crashing sound effect when the when the brick hits the camera, 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:29.560 and that will be outrages. It'll be fun. So the 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.480 little start of the island of Guam, that was where 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.840 the concept began. That was the genesis of the brick. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.280 I was searching for stick, as we all are. You know, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.680 we're searching for were searching for something that will move 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.480 the audience and move you as well. And once you 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.600 are moved and the audience has moved you, not the magic. Yeah, 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.639 and you people don't. I don't think a lot of 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.560 people You've talked about this, but you went to Cornell, right, 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.560 that's a major it's an Ivy League institution. You you 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:03.520 went through a big time university. Uh, back in the day. 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:07.320 What was Cornell like back then? High above Cayuga's words, 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:12.000 sensational institution of learning. Uh. I don't know how I 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:17.280 got in. Basically, I get very lucky because I spent 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.439 my first two years of Courtland State in in Carton, 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.560 New York, home of the Red Dragons, and I had 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.919 taken a lot of creative writing courses, and I had 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.360 an incredible professor and Paul Blackburn, who was the leader 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.600 of the of the Black Mountain Movements, who had studied 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.159 and had written with Alan Ginsburg and Joe Oppenheimer and 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.560 some of the great American poets over time and space. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.080 And I had taken courses with him, and he was 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.919 teaching me how to write, which, of course just the 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:47.560 core of every sensational communicator is writing. Because once you 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.680 can write, and you can flow with your spit with 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.879 your with your writing, then you half were there. But 0:20:54.960 --> 0:21:00.439 I sensational sensational academia at Courtland, but I really ran 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.240 out of courses and Cornell was thirty miles away, and 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.280 it was a great school, Ivy League school, and I 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.320 petitioned for an interview my mom my marks were high, 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.240 but I didn't have the pedigree. He didn't have the 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.760 I didn't have the uh, the taple of fair you know, 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.600 really of the typical Cornell student. Basically, I told him, listen, 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.760 I write a lot of poetry. I told my admissions guide. 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:24.919 I wrote, I write a lot of poetry and I 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.920 play a lot of basketball. They said, you are an unusual, 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.920 unusual Cornell flavor. You have to come in for an interview. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.240 I said I would love to. So I came in 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:39.000 for the interview, and I really went desperation. I went 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.960 desperation on the interview. Don't asked y. His name was 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.800 Gordon Peck. He was the head of admissions. He was 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.160 a cool dude. And I just said, Gordon, listen, if 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.359 I don't get into Cornell, I will slip into the 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:55.040 bowery and start drinking and become an alcoholic. Do you 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.320 really want it on your consciousness? And he starts laughing, 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.680 and it was great, that is a last. We don't 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.560 have many people like you were Cornell. Let us reconsider 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:08.040 your application at six six weeks later, I was in wow. 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:10.679 I was sorry. It was a lucky break. You know, 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.320 this was you know, pre digital, pre computer everything. It 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.000 was done on the phone or in person. Yeah, so 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:22.080 you just you know, this is struck a nineteen what right, 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:30.240 mid seventies, seventies I'm thinking seventy two two. So you 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.359 charmed them to, you charmed them, You charmed your way 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.399 into Cornell. I got lucky. I had a He was 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:40.879 a very embracing dude. He was open. You know, he 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:44.479 didn't want the same type you know of Cornell, you know, 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:49.920 a's across the board private school. Uh. He wanted a 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.119 little something different, and he was willing to take the chance. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.399 And I said, Gordon Peck till till this day. He 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:01.440 was a tremendous dude, an adventure and in that academic 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:05.359 careum fighter. Well, there have been some Cornell's a famous school. 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.600 Anybody did you go to school with anybody that also 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.760 made it in the business. I've been a number of 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:12.840 media people that came out of Cornell over the years. 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.560 Did anyone around that time that you went to school 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:19.359 with turn out to have a big career? Well, Keith Alberman, 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.880 Oh my god, Cornell. Am I was not there when 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:28.119 when uh when Keith was there? But I think we 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:33.760 just sort of overlapped one another. Okay. I think Bill 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:35.880 and I went there too. That science guy, I think 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:42.200 he do not the science guy. Yeah, there's some notable alumni, absolutely, Yeah, 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.479 notable notable alumni. Some point. I s stational school, our 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:52.000 gorgeous school waterfalls on campus. Uh. I lived in a 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.800 dorm my first year at Prudence Risley Hall, which was 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.600 right above a beautiful gorge, a sensation thirty ft drop 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:04.560 that engineering students would so sometimes plunge into after a 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:08.760 pretty down semester. But bottom washers. I never told I 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:13.760 couldn't take it that seriously because I was basically you know, 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:18.400 getting sees. But the it was an intense academic regime, 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:23.040 especially for myself. But I got through it, you know, 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.840 grinded it out. But there's a sensational school, no doubt, 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.880 and the higher rough CAYU resorters and a big shout out, 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.400 you know to all the cornell all the Cornelians out 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:38.520 there and everybody grinding through because it's you know, let's basic. 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.840 You know, college is tough, Coate College. It's such an 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:47.080 unlike and likely experience I recommended. But you know, in 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.760 these times of you know, incredible overnight success stories, you 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:56.120