1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house of 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: The Friday edition of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: and Danny g Radio is back in the Magic Podcast Studio. 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Happy April Fool's Day. So exciting. Here we are together 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: on April Fool's Day, and I am fired up. This 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: is someone who I've wanted to get on the podcast 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: and have not been able to put off the last 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: couple of years. I don't know why. That's that's an outrage, 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: It's not right, but we are fired up to welcome 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: in someone that I have known for almost thirty years. 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: It shocks me to think that I've known anyone for 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: that long, that I'm even that old to have known 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: someone for that long. But a staple of Los Angeles 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: Sports Media, a part of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Association and a man with tremendous bohemian tendencies, the very quirky, 22 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: eccentric Vic the Brick Jacobs, a true free spirit and 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: a man who was a pioneer ahead of his time. 24 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: And I've wanted to get Vic on the record because 25 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: he told me some amazing stories back in the day 26 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: about how he started his journey in radio. Now, if 27 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: you're unfamiliar with Vick, Vick worked at Fox Sports Radio 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: with the Loose Cannons and and worked on FSR for 29 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a number of years. He's part of the FSR Alumni Association. 30 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: But he is still a beloved hero in Los Angeles 31 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: radio on AM five seventy, the flagship home of Fox 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, the Dodger station in Los Angeles. Very unique, uh, 33 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: A breath of fresh air, Vic the Brick. These are 34 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: all phrases and things that you can say about the 35 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: unconventional approach to broadcasting, the high coups and all that. 36 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: But we have been through a lot over the years. 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: Myself and Vic we helped launch AM eleven fifty, the 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: all sports station in Los Angeles that became the station 39 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: that it is today, moving down the AM dial. But 40 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: rather than me go on and on and give you 41 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: the very distinguished resume of Victor Brick, who has traveled 42 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: the globe. He's a globe trekker with his unorthodox style, 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: which is ironic because he's very koshert but certainly outlandish 44 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: at times. So let's get in to it with the 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: great Vic, the Brick Jacobs and Vic welcome. First of all, 46 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: good to have you, and I consider you the Dean 47 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles Sports Radio. Vic. Is that an accurate statement? 48 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: My man? Well feeling you, Ben, and that statement it's 49 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: a delusion because you were deluded and I love that 50 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: about you. Well, no, there's only one dean. There's only 51 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: one dean, but Brogan the dean, Well Fred friends, the 52 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: dean of like TV. Right, But I'm telling I'm just 53 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: in you know, in radio. I know you did TV too, Vick, 54 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: But radio, the radio airways, just radio alone, Vick, that 55 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: medium that is your domain. Well, again, I believe you. 56 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: You are experimenting with the Pilotybic Mushroom said, beginning to 57 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: experiment with the game, to gain clarity and again to 58 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: be part of the at the rainbow of radio. For me, 59 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: it's a great blessing because we love it so but 60 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: that the pick of me in those growing toms been. 61 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I believe you have a you get them to the 62 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: secret source about you? Well as you know, you know 63 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: me a long time, Vick. We go way back, mean 64 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: you and but I know what I wanted you to do. 65 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: We people turn over. As you know, Vick, a lifetime broadcaster, 66 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: you know that people turn over and whatnot. The audience 67 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: turns over. So I was like, how can I explain 68 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: the magic for somebody who has not heard you over 69 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: the years, somebody not in l A. Somebody. Let's say 70 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: there's a person vic in des Moines, Iowa, who maybe 71 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: has never heard of the legend of Victor Brick. How 72 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: would you describe, Vic, what you bring to the magic 73 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: radio box? Your your style, you're you're a debonair personnel. 74 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: How would you describe that big That's an excellent question. 75 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I bring the soul, I bring the tranquility. I bring 76 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: the purity. Think of an ancient Japanese walking teeth ceremony, 77 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: and that is where I try to embrace right from 78 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: the soul, right from the essence, attention to detail, leave 79 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: no stone unturned, but the presentation must be beautiful and 80 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: from the heart and That's how I presented. It's it's all. 81 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: It's all from the sports soul. Try to get to 82 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the essence and try to give it Clary. Try to 83 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: bring tranquility from the tumult and Clary from the chaos. 84 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: You you calm, And this is really important, especially the 85 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I've not I've not run into you, 86 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: and I haven't seen anybody. We've all been in our 87 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: little caves here Vic over the last couple of years. 88 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: But you are right your coming influences. I'm trying, like, 89 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: when's the last time I used to run into you 90 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: all the time? When's the last time we hung out? 91 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: It had to be at least twenty eighteen, maybe twenty nineteen, 92 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: It's it might even be before that. It's been a 93 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: long time. Then we gotta hang out one of these days. 94 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: Then it had to be before a Clipper game, because 95 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: I know you're you're always a big fan of the Clippers. 96 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: You're not a band ragging Clipper fan, but you believe 97 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: in the Clippers. Before we have the media really bored 98 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: into the Clippers with the vibe of the Clips. And 99 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: it had to be at a Clipper game, probably at 100 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: pregame press coppers. Yeah, that's my that's my best. Yeah. 101 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: It was probably something like that or a dodgery game 102 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: might have been a dodgery game, dodr game, a Laker again, 103 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Clippers because it's the odds, the 104 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: it's the odd squawed out. Yeah. Well listen, I know, 105 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: do you do you own a Clipper poncho Vick? You 106 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: do not, right, you only have the Laker poncho. I 107 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: don't end the Dodger one lacer poncho Lake, the Laker 108 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: amulet forged by Laker and in Linwood. It was a 109 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: stainless steel Laker amulet that I would rock on my neck. 110 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: And I'm shocked that I would not say a chiropractor 111 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: twice a week. We'll we'll get that now. My favorite, 112 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: I got a couple of great Victor Brick when when 113 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: your name comes up Thick, I always tell tell a 114 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: few victim Brick stories. But the one that I wanted 115 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: you to share that you told me you told me 116 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: years ago, is you have an amazing tale about how 117 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: you got into the media. You've had an amazing run 118 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: here in in radio and TV and all that, but 119 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: you didn't really plan on doing. Is that accurate? You 120 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: were in Guam hanging out at a restaurant working? Is that? 121 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Am I getting the story right? I remember you told 122 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: me the story? Is that accurate? Thing? What's accurate? That 123 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: I was living on the Autoi Guam, Micronesia and I'm big, 124 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: very big hot fi day sports pants, all about Tomorrow 125 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: Brothers and on the island of bomb the Great. Uh. Really, 126 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: how territory? How did you pick? As? I mean, I'm 127 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: trying to figure out the actual, uh political nature. It's 128 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: a trust territory of the United States, like Puerto Rico basically. 129 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: And I was traveling and my goal was always to 130 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: get on TV. That was always my goal. I wanted. 131 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a telebrate, his sportscaster. And I knew, 132 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: I knew my my destiny. I just was trying to 133 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: forge your destiny. And I was working as a assistant 134 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: beverage manager at the Granmrif Hotel on two month day, 135 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: beautiful two month day and bam, and I was attending 136 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: a Korannas club lunching when all of a sudden, a 137 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: camera crew uh came into the the top of the 138 00:08:54,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: reef ball room and I was shocked because a I 139 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: flew and it slept through the island. About six months before, 140 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: I had knocked out old TV stations, so I didn't 141 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: even know there was a TV station on the air, 142 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: but they were on the air. They came back on 143 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: the air and they were they were doing a little, 144 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: uh you know, afternoon's voice over deal with a local 145 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: political type. And I said, wow, you guys are back 146 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: on the air. Do you guys need a sportscaster? They said, yeah, 147 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's not we need a sportscaster. I don't 148 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: wet the person. I said, you're kidding. They said, you should, 149 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: you should apply, So I, you know, I applied the 150 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: next day for a sportscasting gig and I got it. 151 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: And that was my first job on the airwaves as 152 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: a as a sportscaster on Guam Cable TV, g C 153 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: t V just a Circle nineteen eighty and so, how 154 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: how long did you last in Guam before you moved 155 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: on to something else? Well, one year I had an 156 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: amazing teachers. I had Felt Hawkins, who was a adventure 157 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: journalist from the East Coast who had great experience, and 158 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: he came and became the news director. He became a 159 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: news director, and he guided me, you know, he gave 160 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: me the you know, the fundamentals. Was a sensational teacher. 161 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Felts Hawkins is my original news director and I believe 162 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: he's I'm not sure where where it Felps is now? 163 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: Is there a great name Felts Hawkins rich news director? 164 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: And oh it was a really cool dude. Man. He 165 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: was incredibly I'm trying to compare them to someone you 166 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: know on the air today. He was just a multi 167 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: skilled journalist and just the pure heart. I mean it 168 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: had to go to to guaB to be a news director. 169 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: You know. He had a great sense of adventure. But 170 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: he was my really, my first um television professor. You know, 171 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: he said, he he laid he laid down the basics 172 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: for me and I just a wonderful team. You know, 173 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm gand Cable TV and worked there for a year. 174 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: Put together an audition tape. And I was still working 175 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: at a systant beverage manager of the Grand ref Hotel, 176 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: so I was busy and I was you know, I 177 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: was serving drains and managing the you know, the Top 178 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: of the Reef hotel. Had a great band who were 179 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: bad Fracasini band. He was Italian. He played the flute. 180 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: He was the leader of the band, you know, a 181 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: great Tomorrow local stiner. She was fantastic at a bass 182 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: player from Newark, New Jersey. I just uh, real cool. 183 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: They played the hits. So I was up there at nights, 184 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, supervising the room and you know, you know, 185 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: digging with the band a little bit. And by day 186 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I was doing sports for gan Table TV. So it 187 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: was really a fun, fun time. But you know, my 188 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: sites were set of course on coming coming back to 189 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: the United States and getting a gig somewhere in America, 190 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: small station somewhere. So I started sending out to you know, 191 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: my three quarter inch video tapes back in the day 192 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: the way you know, but before digital, before computers, there 193 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: was a tape and film, and you know, these archaic 194 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: troums of communication not even used today. I don't believe 195 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: there's a three quarter which we see used today in 196 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: any market. I don't think so I would I would 197 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: hope not, Vick at this point, I would that makes 198 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: you a long way to go. But enjoyed the journey. 199 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: Enjoyed the journey. So after being rejected bad by about 200 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, two hunded stations, they said, you are not 201 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: you an animals stay in grob You're a circus act. Yeah, 202 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: because I had very high energy and I was not 203 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: influenced by anyone, because I had movie. I had been 204 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: on the road for about you know, five years, traveling 205 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: so East Asia and the South Seas, and you know, 206 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: if I really had no template, I had no I 207 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: had no one to base any style on except my 208 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: own guts. So with my own gut, I developed a 209 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: style which was fun, you know, communicative facts, frenzy and 210 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: a video boo. And it was really too too harsh 211 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: of a concept at the time, you know, succer ninet 212 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: TV America to accept such a style, so I was rejected. 213 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: I would say, every market, small market, large market, from Laredo, Texas, 214 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, to to Chico, California. Everyone said, you know, 215 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: you're a freak. You're a freak. You know, North Dakota, 216 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: South Dakota. You know. It was nuts, I mean, everybody 217 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: said no. But finally, finally I returned home and made 218 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: the great loop, you know, back to New York halls, 219 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: back in Queens and New Yorks and the tapes, and 220 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: I got a big break when Dave Brown, who was 221 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: a news director at k b I, MTV and Roswalell, 222 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: New Mexico and number one eight eight market in America. 223 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Beautiful Roswell, New Mexico. Of course you know, home of 224 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: the Hall of the Aliens. But this was doc in 225 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: the eight eight, two eighty I'm sorry, nineteen eighty one. 226 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: They said, Dick, why don't you come in for an interview. 227 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk it over. So of course I grabbed the 228 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: greyhound bus from New York to Roswell, two and a 229 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: half days across the country, grabbed the interview with Dave Brown, 230 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: and I got lucky. We connected. And the only reason 231 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: we connected it is because his parents would teachers on 232 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: the island of Gum. We had the gland connection. He 233 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: hired me, and he hired me. He said, okay, z 234 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: he'll do you know, you shoot, you shoot the video 235 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: on the weekends and during I mean you'll do shoot 236 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: there during the week and on the weekend, will be 237 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: the sports guy. I said, fantastic. And that was that. 238 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: That was a Eureka. That was the That was the 239 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: big America. That was a big mainland break. So God 240 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: blessed Guam, God blessed laws in New Mexico, Dave Brown 241 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: and KB I am the CBS affiliate and beautiful Roswell 242 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: in New Mexico, Southeastern New Mexico, now VIC. When you 243 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: were in Roswell, did you ever see the the aliens? 244 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: You think you think they were still hanging out there? No, 245 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: when I was there. It's funny, this isn't either way. 246 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Before David Duchovny and X Files, they were really sweeping 247 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: it under the table. They really didn't want to be 248 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: affiliated with that alien vibe. It wasn't until years later 249 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: they discovered, you know what, there's millions and dollars of 250 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: tourism money to be discovered if we reconnect with our 251 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: with our alien connection. And they did. But when I 252 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: was there in nineteen eighty, it was really under the 253 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: under the radar, so to speak. You know, it was 254 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: nowhere to be seen. Yeah, so I really had no. 255 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I I would have loved that. I would have will 256 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: because you know, obviously I'm an X File fan, always 257 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: have been. You know, I still have you know, X 258 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Files memorabilia. You know in the endo, you love D Company, 259 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: love D Company. He loved the show and you know 260 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: the writing is unbelievable and it's just one of those 261 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: great TV shows. I think they will live on in 262 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: the history of the medium. Yeah, you could have totally 263 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: played that when when you said Roswell vic my in 264 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: my head, I visioned you on television wearing like an 265 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: alien costume doing the sports in my head. But as 266 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: you said, they didn't really embrace that back in that 267 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: would have been that would have been a good concept, 268 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: but the aliens were not in the in the mindset 269 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: of the people at that time. It really wasn't almost 270 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: an embarrassing thing, uh for the people you know of 271 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: southeastern New Mexico, because they hadn't come to grips, you know, 272 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: with with with you know how popular it Uh, you know, 273 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: I got the fible flying objects was going to be. 274 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: And of course alien life in the eighties was you know, 275 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: was shunned. And basically if you're a point that you 276 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: know you was coined the phrase alienated, but you were 277 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 1: alienated if you start talking about aliens, because it was 278 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: it was it were almost tat blue. So I never 279 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: really ran into anyone who were counted aliens when I 280 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: was in Russell for that one year. But you know, obviously, 281 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: you know they cashed in later. But you know with 282 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: the advent of X files and the gray alien claze. 283 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: You know that's still going on in this country because 284 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: you know, we're fascinated without a space and inner space, 285 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: and of course my favorite the ocean. I'm still I'm 286 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: a digualte of the deep blue sea. That's where the 287 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: answers are in the ocean, So at the bottom of 288 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: the ocean, that's where everything. Now, over the years, Vic, 289 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: I've had people that say the Earth is flat, that 290 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: the Earth is hollow. Uh where you ad on that, 291 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: vic A that yeah, the Earth is hollow. You think 292 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: there's like a hole somewhere in the middle of and 293 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: going deep down in the Give me like, no, you know, 294 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: let's take such an incredible technology. Yeah we should know. 295 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: Body help you the track that Kyrie irving exactly. Now. 296 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this, Vic. When I my first 297 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: memory of seeing Victor break, you were on Channel thirteen 298 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: in l A. You had the crazy jackets on and 299 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: you were throwing these foam bricks at the camera, which 300 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I thought was great. I love that that was that 301 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: was It was hilarious to me. Vic. You were so 302 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: different than everyone else on TV doing that. Where did 303 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: that start? Did that start in Roswell. At what point 304 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: did you decide you see the break just like that? 305 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: That's a great question. I was meditating on the a 306 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: pollto Guam. He in a stick? I said, what rhymes 307 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: with vic? What rhymes with vick? I know how about 308 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: the brick? And what I'll do is I'll have a 309 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: full rubber brick and throw it at the camera and 310 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: in my moments of anguish and frustration and exasperation, I 311 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: will throw the brick at the camera and create a 312 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: crashing sound effect when the when the brick hits the camera, 313 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: and that will be outrages. It'll be fun. So the 314 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: little start of the island of Guam, that was where 315 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: the concept began. That was the genesis of the brick. 316 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: I was searching for stick, as we all are. You know, 317 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: we're searching for were searching for something that will move 318 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: the audience and move you as well. And once you 319 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: are moved and the audience has moved you, not the magic. Yeah, 320 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: and you people don't. I don't think a lot of 321 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: people You've talked about this, but you went to Cornell, right, 322 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: that's a major it's an Ivy League institution. You you 323 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: went through a big time university. Uh, back in the day. 324 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: What was Cornell like back then? High above Cayuga's words, 325 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: sensational institution of learning. Uh. I don't know how I 326 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: got in. Basically, I get very lucky because I spent 327 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: my first two years of Courtland State in in Carton, 328 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: New York, home of the Red Dragons, and I had 329 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: taken a lot of creative writing courses, and I had 330 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: an incredible professor and Paul Blackburn, who was the leader 331 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: of the of the Black Mountain Movements, who had studied 332 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: and had written with Alan Ginsburg and Joe Oppenheimer and 333 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: some of the great American poets over time and space. 334 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: And I had taken courses with him, and he was 335 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: teaching me how to write, which, of course just the 336 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: core of every sensational communicator is writing. Because once you 337 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: can write, and you can flow with your spit with 338 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: your with your writing, then you half were there. But 339 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: I sensational sensational academia at Courtland, but I really ran 340 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: out of courses and Cornell was thirty miles away, and 341 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: it was a great school, Ivy League school, and I 342 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: petitioned for an interview my mom my marks were high, 343 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: but I didn't have the pedigree. He didn't have the 344 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I didn't have the uh, the taple of fair you know, 345 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: really of the typical Cornell student. Basically, I told him, listen, 346 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: I write a lot of poetry. I told my admissions guide. 347 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: I wrote, I write a lot of poetry and I 348 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: play a lot of basketball. They said, you are an unusual, 349 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: unusual Cornell flavor. You have to come in for an interview. 350 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I said I would love to. So I came in 351 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: for the interview, and I really went desperation. I went 352 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: desperation on the interview. Don't asked y. His name was 353 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Gordon Peck. He was the head of admissions. He was 354 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: a cool dude. And I just said, Gordon, listen, if 355 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: I don't get into Cornell, I will slip into the 356 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: bowery and start drinking and become an alcoholic. Do you 357 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: really want it on your consciousness? And he starts laughing, 358 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: and it was great, that is a last. We don't 359 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: have many people like you were Cornell. Let us reconsider 360 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: your application at six six weeks later, I was in wow. 361 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: I was sorry. It was a lucky break. You know, 362 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: this was you know, pre digital, pre computer everything. It 363 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: was done on the phone or in person. Yeah, so 364 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: you just you know, this is struck a nineteen what right, 365 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: mid seventies, seventies I'm thinking seventy two two. So you 366 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: charmed them to, you charmed them, You charmed your way 367 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: into Cornell. I got lucky. I had a He was 368 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: a very embracing dude. He was open. You know, he 369 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: didn't want the same type you know of Cornell, you know, 370 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: a's across the board private school. Uh. He wanted a 371 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: little something different, and he was willing to take the chance. 372 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: And I said, Gordon Peck till till this day. He 373 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: was a tremendous dude, an adventure and in that academic 374 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: careum fighter. Well, there have been some Cornell's a famous school. 375 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: Anybody did you go to school with anybody that also 376 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: made it in the business. I've been a number of 377 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: media people that came out of Cornell over the years. 378 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: Did anyone around that time that you went to school 379 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: with turn out to have a big career? Well, Keith Alberman, 380 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Cornell. Am I was not there when 381 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: when uh when Keith was there? But I think we 382 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: just sort of overlapped one another. Okay. I think Bill 383 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: and I went there too. That science guy, I think 384 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: he do not the science guy. Yeah, there's some notable alumni, absolutely, Yeah, 385 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 1: notable notable alumni. Some point. I s stational school, our 386 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: gorgeous school waterfalls on campus. Uh. I lived in a 387 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: dorm my first year at Prudence Risley Hall, which was 388 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: right above a beautiful gorge, a sensation thirty ft drop 389 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: that engineering students would so sometimes plunge into after a 390 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: pretty down semester. But bottom washers. I never told I 391 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: couldn't take it that seriously because I was basically you know, 392 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: getting sees. But the it was an intense academic regime, 393 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: especially for myself. But I got through it, you know, 394 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: grinded it out. But there's a sensational school, no doubt, 395 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: and the higher rough CAYU resorters and a big shout out, 396 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: you know to all the cornell all the Cornelians out 397 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: there and everybody grinding through because it's you know, let's basic. 398 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: You know, college is tough, Coate College. It's such an 399 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: unlike and likely experience I recommended. But you know, in 400 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: these times of you know, incredible overnight success stories, you 401 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: know via social media, it's it's amazing. The transformation, especially 402 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: you know in the broadcast enter industry and how it's 403 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: all it's all changed. You know, that's unbelievable. Yeah, and 404 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: if you would, if you had been around, you know, 405 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: if you'd start out now, you would have been like 406 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: a YouTube star or a TikTok's kikok man. Yeah, you're 407 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: all TikTok. Yeah, tiptok. Everything would be tiptok. Yeah, I 408 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: play TikTok. I'm not shocked. Look at me. I'm on TikTok. 409 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it would be so different. There 410 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: be no tape to be very everybody will be digital. 411 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Everything would be you know, on the web, and it's 412 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: a it's a different it's a different adventure right now 413 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: when I and I employed everyone who goes on that 414 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: great adventure and enjoy it. Yeah. And you when we 415 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: were starting out AM eleven fifty which became now you 416 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: know M five seventy in l A. You hosted, you 417 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: were alongside, you were the John Stockton a radio with 418 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: Carl Malone back in the beautiful back in the day. 419 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: And I remember when we walked into Mike Thompson's office 420 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: and you know, not you were not part of that, 421 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: but he explained that he was gonna hire Carl Malone. 422 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: At the time, Malone was still playing for the Utah 423 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Jazz and it was only supposed to be like a 424 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: temporary type thing, and Victor break that thing lasted a 425 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: long time, the Carl Malone show. And you you were 426 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: right alongside setting the Mailman up. What do you remember 427 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: about that? What was your favorite part of that show? 428 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: The greatest part and thank you for love for the 429 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: Mailman carm alone was it was was called honestly because 430 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: he knew from the beginning. I definitely had some serious 431 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: attitude towards him because of his uh archaic uh attitude 432 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: towards Magic Johnson, of course, and and the whole age 433 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: controversy when he when he came out looking, you know, 434 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: so ridiculous and sheltered, and I held it against call 435 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: can not be you know, more open, you know, to 436 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: the situation. But he gets did He just didn't have 437 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: the knowledge, uh as a lot of people didn't. But obviously, 438 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: after spending so many great sessions to call and talking 439 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: to him, I realized he's really a great, a great 440 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: soul who just didn't lack knowledge, and I tried to 441 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: enlighten him give him a knowledge and he you know, 442 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: he broughtened his spectrum and I was surprised, you know 443 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: at his amazing array a subject matter that you know, 444 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: he could speak so beautifully on, you know, from from 445 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, flying airplane, uh, to chopping wood, you know, 446 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: to his trucking empire. Uh. You know, we we we 447 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: didn't talk much to It was mostly about life. Calm 448 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Alone on life, and he was sensational. You know, we 449 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: talked about a zen are we're talking about We were 450 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: talking about in a life, philosophy and family and gun 451 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: control and you know flying the airplane. Always wanted to 452 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: be you know, uh in the aeronautics industry. And his 453 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: amazing uh you know, business acumen. And of course you 454 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: know food, you know what he'd had to lunch that day, 455 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: what he was the menu? It was up fascinating And 456 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: of course you know I grew up to you know, 457 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: to up Calm Alone, a good friend of mine. It 458 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: was really an open spirit and uh, I really I 459 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: cherished those days with the mail man. Yeah, that was 460 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: a fun, crazy time we had. The Malone came in, 461 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw came in shortly after that. It was a 462 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: wild time. At that station. But I gotta I gotta 463 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: go back to around that time. I think it was 464 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: the year two thousand, Dick, one of my other favorite 465 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Victor Bricks stories. The Lakers were playing the Indiana Pacers 466 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, So whatever year that was, and 467 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: I was doing a show with Dave Smith out where 468 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: there's a store now at what used to be Staples Center, 469 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: and we were gonna do this post game after the Lakers, 470 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, gonna win the championship and all that, and 471 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: so we were gonna do the postgame thing. Well, they 472 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: had a bunch of fans that were watching the game 473 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: on the video board, and the Lakers won, and there 474 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: was civil unrest there were we were watching. This happened 475 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: right in front of us as we were preparing to 476 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: do the show, and uh, there was a fire that 477 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: was set. People were running around dancing. It turned out 478 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: to be a like a small riot in downtown l 479 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: A after the Lakers had won. And I remember, Vic, 480 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: we sent you out in the Mayhem as our roving reporter, 481 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: and I will never forget the people loved you, but 482 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: we were concerned about you. But there were police everyone 483 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: right gear and all kinds. It was a lockdown situation 484 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: and you were strolling around VIC. Do you remember that 485 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: night in the middle of all the chaos that was 486 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: going on around that arena, there was a point of lake. 487 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: It was amazing, great course rows of emotions for everyone, 488 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: and I did. I roamed into the into the frame. Uh. 489 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: It was my heart was torn because I saw the 490 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: see of God being you know, being you know, split 491 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: when we all should have been under the umbrella of love. 492 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: But obviously it was an opportunity, you know for negative 493 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: energy to enter the situation. And I believe they had 494 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: set fire to a police car. And I went into 495 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: the fray and I saw about I would say, fifty 496 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: fifty to a hundred, uh, police and riot care just 497 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: standing there around the bonding police car. And I went 498 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: into that frame with the fans and was reporting what 499 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: was happening. That's you know, there was a you know, 500 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: a a section of the city that was out of control. 501 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: But you of of the fans were you know, we're 502 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: celebrating beautifully, but there was you know, there wasn't an 503 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: ugly percentage you know that had lost control. And obviously 504 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: we all lose, you know, with the optics when everyone sees, 505 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, the the flames and the overturned vehicles and 506 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: me and the broken window. So everyone loses when when 507 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: those optics are revealed, you know, to the world. But 508 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: being there, I knew it was just a very small 509 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: fraction you know of Los Angeles that had that had releases, 510 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, this toxicity you know, on this beauty, on 511 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: this beautiful moment. And I reported it as I saw it, 512 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: and I know you were very concerned, but I was 513 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: safe at all times if fans had my back, But 514 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted to, you know, report the truth what 515 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: was going on, you know, right in front of which 516 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: was then Staples centered the downtown Hoopoe which is now 517 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: you know Crypto dot Com. But at that time it 518 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: was since a very very razor's edge of motion, and 519 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: it was scary, no doubt. I was, you know, I was. 520 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was in fear for the city. I 521 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: was never in fearful for for myself. I wasn't fearful 522 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: the for the city of losing it. But the people 523 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: came together and great patience for the l a p 524 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: D and the and the riot squad in their patients, 525 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: but they did not make any major MUVEs of of violence. 526 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: You know, they protected you know, the brunt out police car, 527 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: but they did not descend on the crowd and they 528 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: let the crowd you know, break up and you know, peaceably. 529 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it was handled, you know, with 530 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: incredible skill, incredible skill, but it was scary, and I 531 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: know you guys were inside I would I'm I'm reporting 532 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: it as best I can. And there's some very hot 533 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: start conditions. But let's face it, Uh, this this is 534 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: what we do. We have to spread the truth and 535 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: tell the people what's going on. And that's that. That 536 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: was that was vital and to be that people are yeah, no, 537 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: and we were there. We had a glass window in 538 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: front of us, and we had the window to the 539 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: where we we could only see what was going on 540 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: right on the street in front of the arena as 541 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: they were dancing around a bonfire. And I remember walking 542 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: back to my car that night, Vic and it was 543 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: the police car that was burned out. There was a 544 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: TV news van from Channel two in l A that 545 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: also got burned up in that and the smell of that, well, 546 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: it was crazy. But the fans just loved you and 547 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: and all that. Now moving on, you don't have too 548 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: much time, so I wanted to get to this. Now. 549 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: You have been beloved by the athletes in l A 550 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: and I was trying to think, is there a top 551 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: five list of athletes over the years, VIC that have 552 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: really bonded with the pont Choke. I can think of 553 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: two off the top of my head. The Lake, Kobe Bryant. 554 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: You had a good relationship with Kobe and and Yasi 555 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: from the Dodgers. Who else would be on that shortlist? VIC? 556 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Of guys that really got you and you connected with 557 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant got among men is of course my all 558 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: time blots that brother. He is a spirit that will 559 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: live on eternally. That's just hear less hands listened around 560 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: the world, and I love that man. I missed that 561 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: man so much. We all do bless Code, Bless Code, 562 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: and bless Vanessa and the girls. He connected and always 563 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: had my back. I just saw a recent post where 564 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: Steve Nash was a member of the Phoenix Suns and 565 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: we're doing they'll play the Lakers during a polities And 566 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: I also really no question to Nis said Steve, do 567 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: you expect so much production from the Laker boost tonight? 568 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: And I'm wearing my local punstre of course, and the 569 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: Laker and the Laker analyism, you know, the purple and 570 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: goals for Mike for and Nash he was he was funny. 571 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: He says, do I detected New York sack accent? And 572 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: if so, why are you a Laker fan? And I said, Steve, 573 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm locking the purple and gold and we're in this 574 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: town and it's a Laker town man and the Lakers 575 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: or the squad. And he said, I'm disappointed. And so 576 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: two days later, Colby's at the podium, same series and 577 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: code are masking Cobe asking Kobe a question, and even 578 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: before I asked the question, Kobe says that I don't 579 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: know what Steve Nash is talking about, but I got 580 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: your back, man, I got your ball with So we're 581 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: wearing the Laker puntre. And this is before I even spoke, 582 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: and he said, Thanky Cobe, thanky man had my back. 583 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: We'll just grass here, said he. That's just the class 584 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: of Kobe Bryant, the incredible dignity and class of Kobe 585 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: being Bryant. We love him forever. Hold us connected with 586 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: the point show up. I have to say many Ramire's 587 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: love many Ramiro's. Of course, you see how queed right 588 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: now in the current the current Dodgers justin Turner at Summurai, 589 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: very very into the way of the poncho, the way 590 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: of the Summurai. Another Dodger, I would say, Dave Roberts 591 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: also very in tune with the poncho and the way 592 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: of the warrior. And bless the oars old to see her. 593 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman is gonna have an amazing game. And I'm 594 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: just I'm just you know, coming to see what an 595 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: altar curb current ball there. But Freddy Freeman swing. Wow, 596 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is we haven't had a 597 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: I can't think of a sweetest swing in a while. 598 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: He makes in contact so it seems so simple. And 599 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: when he goes opposite field, I just love how he 600 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: inside outs, you know, I late just a single to left. 601 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: I just love that. It kind of reminds me. We know, 602 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: Bellinger was in the groove of a couple of years 603 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: ago in the NBP season, you know, when Billy was 604 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: such a zone. You know, the praise in that zone 605 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: like every attack, that's the listen, We're in the Goldilocks 606 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: zone with the dodge. I mean we've been around for 607 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: a while. You've been around longer than I have. But 608 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: you remember the Dodgers back in the day, they'd go years, 609 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: or they'd be kind of mediocre, average teams. The last 610 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: ten years of Dodger baseball, they've become like the old Yankees. 611 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs or the Atlanta Bridge there in 612 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: the payoffs every year. It's a birth right now to 613 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs for the Dodgers. There, you're almost 614 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: guarantee a joke. It's a joker knut. It's a joker nut. 615 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: And I don't I believe that Billy had one more 616 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: starting pitcher. What the one starting get total domination. The 617 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: starting lineup is really strong. Other other clubs improved, But 618 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: that's pretty Freeman into this. Commix just gives Day Roberts 619 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: so much mobility and freedom to X and match and 620 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: you know, get incredible setups. You know, left right, left, right, 621 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: left right. If there isn't an easy out, if you've 622 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: better grind through a lineup man and you got to 623 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: go through Freeman, and you're gonna go through beds, and 624 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: you're gonn to go through the turners, and then you 625 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: gotta go through monthly and then you know you gotta 626 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: go through Will Smith and then you know it's just wild, 627 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: you know, Chris Haylor, it's just you know, it's you know, 628 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: it's just a wild lineup. I just love it. So 629 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: it's just a tremendous thing to see. And I just 630 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: love seeing Clayton car shot. Pie was so all by 631 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: the way, if anyone for me, the revelation of the 632 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: spring has been Clayton show every day. The ball seems 633 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: to have a nice break, nice velocity. You know, it 634 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: seems like he's going to be the Clayton you know, 635 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: I think Clay's gonna win towards the fifteen games this year, 636 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be uh sensational. Oh yes, it's gonna 637 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: be a wonderful year. And you know, and of course 638 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: the boat tend of looks strong and walk compusersm you know, 639 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: a warrior. It's it's going to be wonderful watching Dodger 640 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: Baseball to see it. But I'll tell you there's a 641 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: lot of clubs up there. You know, Dave Roberts gave 642 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: the guarantee, so let's play him out. That's have some 643 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: fun and enjoy the game. We got hoartball man, that's 644 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: the key. Yeah, we got some heartball man. We got 645 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: baseball's coming, baseball, real baseball coming. They got the baseball. 646 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: Ben next week, Vic, I gotta I gotta go out 647 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: and see at the ball park. I'm gonna hang out 648 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: and we gotta break bread. Me and you. I have 649 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: not seen you in too long. Vic. We're gonna break 650 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: bread at some point. That's in the near future. Mack. 651 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: We gotta make that happen. Gotta make that and more. 652 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: They're finding some health issuels. But you know, day by day, 653 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: day by day, Ben, how are you doing? I gotta 654 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: ask you, but I know you Mom momento, I saw 655 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: still the enemy. It's just amount of control. You know, 656 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm just controlling it, you know. Day by day we 657 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: just you know, you know, I'm grinding to a very 658 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: tough at back. Alright, alright, whatever we can do a 659 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: top of that, and uh, let's stay. Every picture is 660 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: a blessing. Yeah, you're a Hall of Famer, Victo. You're 661 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: in the aren't you in the Southern California Jewish Sports 662 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Right? I read that you're a few 663 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: years ago you how about that Hall of Famer Victor 664 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: brick in the Hall of Fame. Awesome, Save Hartin was 665 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: parting all right. Listen, Vick, I love you man, get 666 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: that health back. You keep fighting the fight and uh 667 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: and thank you for doing this. I appreciate it well. 668 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. You've a wonderful show. Everyone listen to Ben 669 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: Malla man. It's a stake and sill. Ben. You are 670 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: a warrior as well. Your longevity and your your tape 671 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: and your content have been fantastic for decades. I always 672 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: love listening to you and hanging with you. You are 673 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: great vibe, loving you, Bella. You're the man. Vic, Thank 674 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: you do