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Speaker 3: when we were over there, football weather. Yes, this is
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Speaker 1: You know what, PAULI, I don't think it just rained.
Speaker 1: I think it poured for the most part. Right, It
Speaker 1: kind of poured there for a while. I'd say the
Speaker 1: first half of practice, for the most part, it was rough.
Speaker 1: And the reason why it was rough, PAULI is you
Speaker 1: well know, the field was soaked, the players were soaked in,
Speaker 1: the pick was soaked. But all three of those things
Speaker 1: together it was kind of hard to evaluate what was
Speaker 1: going on on the field.
Speaker 3: Now, Ron Woofley, as a Buffalo Native, Cardinals are tracking
Speaker 3: for Week one. Everything they're doing right now just is
Speaker 3: with one objective, get a win in Week one, September eighth.
Speaker 3: It is exactly is there a chance of weather, chance
Speaker 3: of rain? Historically on a September eighth day in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: New York, Yeah, Paul, you could have a beautiful day,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. In Orchard Park, New York, where
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills play, it could be a beautiful day.
Speaker 1: Or it could be nasty, Paul.
Speaker 3: So maybe, just maybe it might prove beneficial. We'll see,
Speaker 3: hopefully not. But once again, the All Weather joint practice
Speaker 3: number two. A couple of days, we're gonna talk to
Speaker 3: Chris Barnes all about it. Cardinals standout linebacker. I do
Speaker 3: say stand out because he got a call out. He
Speaker 3: got a shout out from the head coach, Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 3: after the preseason game number one against New Orleans. We
Speaker 3: talk about that. We'll get into all that speaking to
Speaker 3: the head coach. Here's Jonathan and Gannon this week, last
Speaker 3: couple of days, just on the importance of these joint practices,
Speaker 3: which are all the rage these days in the NFL
Speaker 3: against the Colts.
Speaker 4: They know they're competing for their roles, and I mean,
Speaker 4: this is, in my opinion, the closest thing that you
Speaker 4: can get besides a preseason game to Week one at Buffalo.
Speaker 4: So they're all business tonight.
Speaker 3: They're nothing new. You went through them back in your day. Wolf, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they seem to be more popular than ever with head coaches.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And I think Paully, it's
Speaker 1: really obvious as to why that would be. Right now,
Speaker 1: I think coaches, not just head coaches, but I think
Speaker 1: player and position coaches. I think they get up close
Speaker 1: and personal views of the guy that they're coaching, and
Speaker 1: they love that, Pauli. They're running back coach, the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach, the defensive line coach. They get to look
Speaker 1: a guy in the eye as he's getting ready to
Speaker 1: get in a three point stance and try to bury
Speaker 1: somebody to look at them. They get to talk to
Speaker 1: them during before and after the rep that they take
Speaker 1: in one on one period. So I think they love it.
Speaker 1: They love the up close, personal, hands on let me
Speaker 1: evaluate this guy. And yet today PAULI, it was really
Speaker 1: really difficult to evaluate it once again because of the rain.
Speaker 1: Throws are difficult to evaluate sometimes because the ball is
Speaker 1: so wet. Catches are difficult. Drops. Was it at a
Speaker 1: drop or did it? Was it just the ball being
Speaker 1: so wet. Get Offs by edge players rushing the passer,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, your get off isn't good here, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe that's because of the fitting.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 1: It's tough to evaluate as a coach as well.
Speaker 3: What's invaluable as well is when you have a guy
Speaker 3: like DeForest Buckner, multiple time All Pro defensive lineman, all
Speaker 3: six foot seven of them. You get a different evaluation
Speaker 3: of your offensive lineman. Sure, going against a guy like that.
Speaker 3: When you see Darius Robbin on Day one going against
Speaker 3: Quenton Nelson six Pro Bowls and six years, three time
Speaker 3: All Pro and Darius Robinson has a couple of pretty
Speaker 3: pretty good reps against Quenton Nelson, you start to get
Speaker 3: to a different evaluation of your guys. So it can
Speaker 3: be positive, it can be negative. You really get a
Speaker 3: sense of what guys need to work on when you see,
Speaker 3: for example, a Marvin Harrison Junior in a driving rain
Speaker 3: against Jalen Jones's starting cornerback today just run a money
Speaker 3: route in the red zone for a touchdown catch?
Speaker 1: Really did? Marvin Harrison Junior has definitely popped. He popped
Speaker 1: yesterday as a matter of fact, and today he popped
Speaker 1: as well. I saw him yesterday. I saw him actually
Speaker 1: line up. He was to the right of Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: He got press coverage. He converted whatever route he was
Speaker 1: going to run to a fade, all right, just down
Speaker 1: the sideline. Here it goes a fade to the outside
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray threw a beautiful pass. Again, this was
Speaker 1: yesterday on Marvin Harrison Junior. Marvin Harrison Junior went up
Speaker 1: and caught the ball. It was a perfect throw, perfectly
Speaker 1: executed between those two guys, and it made me think, Paulie,
Speaker 1: that's the possibility right there. You're gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: press Marvin Harrison Jr. You might be careful about that
Speaker 1: because here comes the fade his verticality. He's a tall
Speaker 1: player to begin with. Right now, He's got low legs,
Speaker 1: no doubt, but he's got a long trunk and a
Speaker 1: long reach. And because of that, man that fade. If
Speaker 1: Kyler with his accuracy, especially when he's throwing the ball
Speaker 1: to the right, with his accuracy, that could be very dangerous,
Speaker 1: just like Aaron Rodgers made that play so dangerous.
Speaker 3: They haven't even played in a preseason game. They won't
Speaker 3: play in a preseason game together before Week one against Buffalo.
Speaker 3: You can already see the chemistry. Yeah, they're already in sync.
Speaker 3: In fact, that was a question to Marvin Harrison Junior
Speaker 3: when he met the media yesterday talking about his dad's
Speaker 3: relationship once upon a time with Peyton Manning a couple
Speaker 3: of Hall of famers there, compared to his relationship now
Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray.
Speaker 6: I'm want to say everybody studied my dad and Peyton's relationship.
Speaker 1: They had their relationship.
Speaker 6: Me and kind of have our relationship, and then we
Speaker 6: both don't trying to do great things. If we could
Speaker 6: do what they did, I'd be great.
Speaker 1: Well we're doing.
Speaker 6: We're just worried about and continue to build a relationship.
Speaker 6: Haven't even played a game yet, so I'm trying to
Speaker 6: take a baby stets right now.
Speaker 3: It's great to see Marvin Harrison Senior out there. Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer. He was out watching his son and uh,
Speaker 3: you know a lot of fanfare from the Colts fans
Speaker 3: just knowing that Marvin Harrison Junior was out there.
Speaker 1: Man, where do you begin when you think about this?
Speaker 1: I think of a kid, Marvin Harrison Junior and the
Speaker 1: fact that he's out there where his dad. Literally he's
Speaker 1: a legend, he is.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's Mormon Arison Junior having a conversation. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure how with the Colts mascot Blue, You're like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, did the Colts mascot break character? I
Speaker 3: don't know, but that was a great video.
Speaker 1: No, That's what I'm talking about. It just you know,
Speaker 1: how can you imagine the pressure that is on him
Speaker 1: to go out there and make a play, do something good.
Speaker 1: You know, my dad is over here and he's watching it.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone knows who. I just can't even imagine
Speaker 1: what that was like for Marvin Harrison Junior. Yet he
Speaker 1: flashed a couple of times, no doubt about it. So
Speaker 1: did Trey McBride, whether it was in a seven on
Speaker 1: seven period. And that's where you know, you don't have
Speaker 1: the defensive line, you don't have the offensive line, but
Speaker 1: you've got linebackers of course, and you've got the secondary,
Speaker 1: and then you've got your wide receivers in your tight end,
Speaker 1: and you're running backs and your quarterback. That's what you
Speaker 1: have in seven on seven. It's throwing the ball. This
Speaker 1: is what you do in that seven on seven period.
Speaker 1: You saw Trey McBride really flash in that as well,
Speaker 1: and I love to see that that kind of chemistry
Speaker 1: developing between Kyler and Trey.
Speaker 3: Especially if that gravitational pull of coverage goes towards Marvin
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. To think of the possibilities of Trey McBride,
Speaker 3: who spent the last two months of last season getting
Speaker 3: double coverage all the time. By the way, kick quick
Speaker 3: side note of Marvin Rrison Junior. He's gonna walk into
Speaker 3: the Colts Holme Stadium. His dad's name is going to
Speaker 3: be in the rafters, and he was asked, what will
Speaker 3: that mean to you?
Speaker 1: Definitely?
Speaker 6: Unfortunately I haven't got a chance to play there, obviously
Speaker 6: playing a Big ten championship now he got a chance
Speaker 6: to make it there. But I've been in there before,
Speaker 6: and seeing his name there will be special, especially as
Speaker 6: a player there.
Speaker 3: You go and look, he's talked about it. We talked
Speaker 3: about it right after the draft here on the big
Speaker 3: Red Rage. He spent his entire life, guess what with
Speaker 3: the name Harrison as his nameplate in the back of
Speaker 3: his jersey. It sets the standard. He tries to live
Speaker 3: up and exceed this standard his dad's set. It does
Speaker 3: drive him, he admits that. But as you've pointed out,
Speaker 3: he's a different player, He's a different type of receiver.
Speaker 3: He still runs those precise routes, but in his size
Speaker 3: and his speed and a couple of times we saw
Speaker 3: now once again, nobody's touching Marvin Harrison Junior, either in
Speaker 3: Cardinals scamp or coltscamp. It's just not happening. So I'm
Speaker 3: really curious to see how he is after the catch
Speaker 3: in the regular season, because he has looked elusive and
Speaker 3: he has looked for him. He has the ability to
Speaker 3: get some serious yaks some yards after catch. I don't
Speaker 3: know if he's actually breaking tackles, but he does a
Speaker 3: really good job of avoiding guys in space, and I
Speaker 3: am curious how elusive he proves to be after the catch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, once again, I think he is known
Speaker 1: for being a great route runner, and it's not a
Speaker 1: surprise when you watch him go do it because you
Speaker 1: hear me say this Polly all the time. He's got
Speaker 1: low legs. He's low legs, but his trunk is so long.
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why he's as tall as
Speaker 1: he is. He's got low legs, which allows him to
Speaker 1: run great routes, but his trunk is so long. It's
Speaker 1: kind of different looking at Marvin Harrison Junior right now.
Speaker 1: But man, I'm really excited based on what we're seeing,
Speaker 1: and I realize, look, it's two days of practice against
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. It's practice, man, Okay, it's not what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen in a game. How many reps will he
Speaker 1: actually get with the Colts. I don't know, but I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna throw this at you. If you're Drew Petsing
Speaker 1: and you're jg Hey, look his dad's names up in
Speaker 1: the raptors. Throw the guy the ball.
Speaker 3: So get him out there for the three snaps, get them,
Speaker 3: get him the football, get him a target, Get him
Speaker 3: a target. Well, he told you last week he wants
Speaker 3: preseason action. He got some in Week one, just didn't
Speaker 3: get any catches. So all right, we'll get back into this.
Speaker 3: We'll get you some more takeaways, name some more names
Speaker 3: from the joint practices. When we come back, we're gonna
Speaker 3: talk to Chris Barnes. Right by the way. Our a
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Speaker 3: for strade from the pocket, pass over the middle.
Speaker 2: Picked off, it's sent accepted by Barnes at.
Speaker 3: The ten, running it back to the left of the
Speaker 3: twenty at the thirties, Barnes running on the jets of
Speaker 3: the forties and finally tackle the midfield to deflected pass.
Speaker 1: Into Chris Barnes and then man Chris Barnes, looking ladies
Speaker 1: running up four to four?
Speaker 3: You know what I hear there, Ron Wolfley, what's up, Baul?
Speaker 3: I hear another defensive candidate for your full back clock.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Last year was Jesse Luketta. This year, may I present
Speaker 3: Chris Barnes, Cardinals inside linebacker, the dude who showed off
Speaker 3: some serious jets. I was on the sideline in Houston
Speaker 3: when that happened. I'm telling you right now, guys are like, whoa,
Speaker 3: that was a serious burst. There was a hot moment
Speaker 3: we thought he was taking at the distance.
Speaker 1: Chris, could you do that? Do you think you could
Speaker 1: actually play full back? Line up and play full back?
Speaker 1: I mean, I actually think I could do anything on
Speaker 1: a field. Whatever's ass As long as you give me
Speaker 1: the details of what's to do, that's right, I can
Speaker 1: make it happen. All right.
Speaker 3: Chris Barnes is our guest here on the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 3: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert all right, So how's
Speaker 3: the preseason. How's camp going, how's the month of August?
Speaker 3: Where you're at? Do you like where you're at?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Of course, So I think everything's going going well right
Speaker 7: now for the team, even individually too as well. We're
Speaker 7: in the think of camp for sure. We're actually a
Speaker 7: joint practice right now against the coach, which is a
Speaker 7: great opportunity to kind of test our skills, test our
Speaker 7: scheme against what they got going as well. But I
Speaker 7: think for myself, I'm having a pretty good camp. I
Speaker 7: came in, I guessed in different shape this year, took
Speaker 7: care of my body in a different different way this off.
Speaker 7: He's in kind of just paid more attention to maximizing
Speaker 7: my five buckets, as coach jg be saying, So I
Speaker 7: forgot I took that to heat this year and came
Speaker 7: in ready to go. So right now I'm feeling good,
Speaker 7: even though we're in think of camp. My body has
Speaker 7: those normal camp bruises, but for the most part, I
Speaker 7: remember it. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: So Chris, so, what is the best thing about joint
Speaker 1: practices and what is the worst thing about joint practice? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think the best thing, honestly is just not having
Speaker 7: to hit your own teammates really just going to get
Speaker 7: somebody else, not in a game like atmosphere, But you're
Speaker 7: still able to get that work with an opponent, be
Speaker 7: able to test our rules, test our our eyes, test
Speaker 7: our communication as a defense, even as offense as well.
Speaker 7: And going against the Coats, I mean they have they're
Speaker 7: pretty good team. They have a lot of things they
Speaker 7: can do with their quarterback, their weapons they have on
Speaker 7: a receiver as well, and even their running back as well.
Speaker 7: So for us, it's about playing rules ball then go
Speaker 7: test that. I would say the worst thing is just
Speaker 7: traveling really, It's just coming from the West Coast out
Speaker 7: here to Indy is a little bit of a little
Speaker 7: bit of a flight.
Speaker 1: You're tea time difference.
Speaker 7: We're playing that six we're playing practicing at six pm,
Speaker 7: which is kind of new for us a little bit.
Speaker 7: But I would say that's probably the only worst thing
Speaker 7: about this whole thing.
Speaker 3: Nothing is like game intensity. But what's it like in
Speaker 3: a joint practice when you're lined up and there's another
Speaker 3: team over there and you can just feel the eyes
Speaker 3: on you, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean the fans make it
Speaker 7: a little bit like a game atmosphere too, as well,
Speaker 7: But when you have a different color jersey line of
Speaker 7: across from you, you always kind of had the S
Speaker 7: team to be like, okay, let's go just that little
Speaker 7: bit harder because you know, no more to protect your teammate.
Speaker 7: Protect this isn't that, But you still want to be professionals,
Speaker 7: still don't want to hurt nobody out out there in
Speaker 7: our practice field. So auntisity's up, for sure, violence is
Speaker 7: definitely up, but uh we still were still out there
Speaker 7: practically smart.
Speaker 1: Did you get some juice out there?
Speaker 7: Yes, somebody, Yeah, a little bit, a little bit of juice,
Speaker 7: a little bit heard coach is saying, keep him up,
Speaker 7: keep him up. But for the most part is more
Speaker 7: so just kind of shipping for the ball, trying to
Speaker 7: get some punches out. A lot of guys out there
Speaker 7: flying around, make a lot of plays.
Speaker 3: So there's definitely some buzz about Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: You look at the Colts quarterback, I'm like, wow, that
Speaker 3: reminds me of Cam Newton.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you tell, he's like a I don't say a specimen,
Speaker 7: but he's definitely one of those guys where he has
Speaker 7: all the tangibles. He's got the high, got the way,
Speaker 7: got the speed, got the arm, talent, got everything.
Speaker 1: It was amazing because we were talking to a coach
Speaker 1: and I will not mention his name right here, but
Speaker 1: we were talking to a coach from the Colts and
Speaker 1: he told us he can re enact the Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: slam dunk taking off from the fall line. You could
Speaker 1: actually do that, right, He could actually do it and
Speaker 1: does it. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I've seen a couple of videos on social media of
Speaker 7: him doing like windmill dunks, two hands slams like some
Speaker 7: crazy I was going to say.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody on our team? Is there anybody that
Speaker 1: could actually pull that off? Do you think that there was?
Speaker 1: Who would it be that Michael Jordan dunk? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a tough one. Um you got she That's
Speaker 1: a tough one. Okay, So yeah, I don't know any Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably a good answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you this question. Chris Barnes is
Speaker 3: our guest. You left u c l A undrafted, yet
Speaker 3: you started in your rookie debut, says here. You were
Speaker 3: the first undrafted rookie in Packers history to do that
Speaker 3: since the nineteen seventy merger at inside linebackers, So what
Speaker 3: did mel Kiper mess on you? What did all the
Speaker 3: evaluators miss on you?
Speaker 7: I truly think I'm a better professional up here in
Speaker 7: the NFL than I was as a college player.
Speaker 1: I think the college.
Speaker 7: Grounds that you say was a great starting point for
Speaker 7: me as far as kind of getting my some more
Speaker 7: confidence in myself knowledge of the game a little bit,
Speaker 7: Especially my last couple of years, my junior senior year,
Speaker 7: I started to get a good feel for the game,
Speaker 7: but I don't think I was really truly ready yet.
Speaker 7: But when I got into the league, especially coming undrafted,
Speaker 7: I knew I had no other choice but to go
Speaker 7: make it happen. So for me, I kind of took
Speaker 7: that step into my professionalism. I think having guys around me,
Speaker 7: true vets around me that have done it before kind
Speaker 7: of helped me in that process as well, kind of
Speaker 7: build some of that confidence, kind of build some of
Speaker 7: that that knowledge for the game too as well. So
Speaker 7: quickly that by the time Week one came, I was
Speaker 7: able to make start make a few plays, and from
Speaker 7: there and there just throughout the season just continue to
Speaker 7: grow myself and take over the Green Dot, continue to
Speaker 7: just build who I was as a player and now
Speaker 7: to be year year five. Now, it's crazy coming to undrafted,
Speaker 7: but it's a blessing each and every day I get
Speaker 7: a step on that field.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about the guys at Green Bay
Speaker 1: or rookie year. Is there somebody that kind of took
Speaker 1: you under his wing, a mentor did you have anybody
Speaker 1: a player maybe? And if so, who was it? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I mean I had a couple of guys over there.
Speaker 7: I would say Kenny Clark. He's a former UCLA guy
Speaker 7: as well. Yeah, so he wasn't too far from my
Speaker 7: locker in the locker room was in Green Bay, and
Speaker 7: he was one of those guys that kind of just
Speaker 7: told me, like, just keep doing what you're doing. To
Speaker 7: know the playbook like the back of your hand. And
Speaker 7: the guys that know the playbook the best are the
Speaker 7: guys that are going to be out there and be
Speaker 7: able to move faster and be able to just produce.
Speaker 7: And that's the biggest thing in the NFL. So him,
Speaker 7: prest Smith, really the whole defense in general. They all
Speaker 7: came around and it really just showed love that my
Speaker 7: first year, my rookie year, especially because it was COVID year,
Speaker 7: it was a different year. In preseason. There's no preseason games.
Speaker 7: There was no I had no combine or nothing. So
Speaker 7: for me, it was kind of a whole new territory.
Speaker 7: So for to have them kind of just settle the
Speaker 7: water for me a little bit. Was was definitely at ease.
Speaker 7: And also came in with my boy Jordan Love, who
Speaker 7: I grew up with him from when we was in
Speaker 7: middle school, so I've known him for a while. So
Speaker 7: for us to be able to come in together, we
Speaker 7: was roommates and kind we would have had that same
Speaker 7: rookie stretch levels a little bit, kind of uh, the
Speaker 7: tiering them a little bit, was it?
Speaker 1: It was good to have.
Speaker 3: So when Jordan Love was carving up the Cowboys in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, were you like standing on your couch just
Speaker 3: cheering for I was.
Speaker 1: I was there. I flew it. Yeah, that for our season.
Speaker 7: So right of our season ended, we I flew out
Speaker 7: there Dallas to go see him places I wanted to
Speaker 7: be able to see him play. So that was a
Speaker 7: good game to go to because he definitely put it
Speaker 7: on him.
Speaker 1: So special teams has been a big part of what
Speaker 1: you have done as well, So talk a little a
Speaker 1: little bit about special teams. In general your thoughts.
Speaker 7: On I think it's huge, especially someone coming undrafted. That's
Speaker 7: a big part of our game here in the NFL
Speaker 7: is be able to produce on special teams and be
Speaker 7: able to be a big part. And I feel like
Speaker 7: for me, it's whatever my role is, whatever, whatever my
Speaker 7: role is called to do for that game where this
Speaker 7: kick off, koar, punt print return defense, you say fullback,
Speaker 7: maybe shoot, I don't know. Yeah, whatever my role is
Speaker 7: to be called, I want to be able to maximize
Speaker 7: that and be my be my best. So I take
Speaker 7: pride in special teams.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 7: I think it's a it's a big part of the game,
Speaker 7: and there's there's changes now will kickoff, kickoff return, but
Speaker 7: I think the game itself is still there, still violent,
Speaker 7: is still a big part of the game where it
Speaker 7: could be supposed to plays on kickoff return. Now, some
Speaker 7: some good players get getting teams backed up on kickoff
Speaker 7: by being being a blocker. So I'm gonna mess you
Speaker 7: to see how this year goes. For sure, what's your
Speaker 7: gut feel? Week one kickoff kickoff return? We kind of
Speaker 7: get the sense a lot of teams are sitting on
Speaker 7: some things. It's really vanilla, right, now, Yes, it is, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it is. I mean even throughout these joint practices, we're
Speaker 7: trying to get a little fixed on some certain things.
Speaker 7: You just get a get a feel of it. But
Speaker 7: you can tell them preseason teams aren't really trying to
Speaker 7: expose too much. So I know when Week one comes,
Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot of twist and trap blocks.
Speaker 7: Probably it's gonna be a couple of things that pop
Speaker 7: up that we haven't seen. But that's the name of
Speaker 7: the game, and from there we'll be able to just
Speaker 7: and be able to make some big plays ourselves.
Speaker 1: We talk a little bit about the inside linebacker room
Speaker 1: right now and where you're playing the most weak side
Speaker 1: and so can you play them both?
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I mean that's that's what we preach in
Speaker 7: the room, is you got to be able to know both.
Speaker 7: No matter where you're playing or where your mainot might be.
Speaker 7: You got to know the both the back of your hand,
Speaker 7: because you never know what might happen in the season
Speaker 7: or in the game as well. So I think we
Speaker 7: have a great room between Kaizer, White, mac Wilson, myself, Owen.
Speaker 7: I think we are all raising each other's talent levels
Speaker 7: and energy levels in that room. Our knowledge is great
Speaker 7: in that room as well, So to be to be
Speaker 7: in his room, I think it's it is raising my
Speaker 7: bar a little bit too as well. There's a lot
Speaker 7: of guys in there, a lot of guy guys, so
Speaker 7: a lot of violence, guy guys coming down ready to
Speaker 7: hit the ball. I will say that. But I'm I'm
Speaker 7: I'm happy to be happy to be in his room,
Speaker 7: happy to be able to produce in his room as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, if mac Wilson goes to the edge and
Speaker 3: some pass strushing situations, there's gonna be room for an
Speaker 3: extra inside linebacker out there next to Kayzer, I would imagine, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I hope. So I know we'll have
Speaker 7: a couple of different things that we could do with
Speaker 7: with those guys in our in our room as well,
Speaker 7: even with Owen and Kayzer. So once season comes around,
Speaker 7: like you say, there will be some things that people
Speaker 7: haven't seen as well. So I mean it's interesting to
Speaker 7: see who those things are. But like I said, whatever
Speaker 7: my name is called, whatever my role might be, I'm
Speaker 7: ready to ready to produce.
Speaker 3: Here's my question, what does a fortified defensive line room
Speaker 3: do for an inside linebacker? Because it's day and night
Speaker 3: that d line from last.
Speaker 7: Year, and it makes our job easier. Alaso's gonna make
Speaker 7: a lot of plays and they are a big reason
Speaker 7: for that. So you can tell in the first person
Speaker 7: to get first preseason game, but even to the camp
Speaker 7: that the defense is ready to go and they're ready
Speaker 7: to hunt. They're very physical, building a wall, keeping double
Speaker 7: teams off of us, so we're able to see the
Speaker 7: running back and be able to make a certain reason
Speaker 7: go shoot gaps. So for us, I'm excited. I will
Speaker 7: say that for our room, we will have a lot
Speaker 7: of production. Even for upfront. They're gonna do a lot
Speaker 7: of things up front where you're gonna they're gonna make
Speaker 7: themselves known for sure.
Speaker 1: So I played ten years in the NFL quise, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I can tell you right now my strength was
Speaker 1: that I could generate more desperation than my opponents. I
Speaker 1: could do that, right, And what do you think your
Speaker 1: strengths are? I will say my strengths I believe are
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 7: I think my IQ for the game, I feel like
Speaker 7: it's really high right, just kind of formation recognition, film
Speaker 7: study allows me to kind of see certain things before
Speaker 7: the plays he even snapped. I also feel like just
Speaker 7: my overall I'm trying my overall motor to be one
Speaker 7: of my strength right now. I feel like my prior
Speaker 7: years I haven't been able to stay at that certain motor,
Speaker 7: whereas from first quarter to fourth quarter it kind of varies.
Speaker 7: But right now, throughout camp and even in off season,
Speaker 7: I feel like I've I've got my boy to a
Speaker 7: certain points where I'm working on that pace to be
Speaker 7: able to have that same speed, to have that same
Speaker 7: motor throughout the whole the whole game. So I'll definite
Speaker 7: say my IQ is one of those things that keep
Speaker 7: me have been keeping me around for sure.
Speaker 3: All Right, I gotta ask you, Darius Robinson, round one rookie,
Speaker 3: give us your take so far?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel his presence.
Speaker 7: I will say that he's one of those guys that's like, yeah,
Speaker 7: you are a first rounder for a reason, So it's
Speaker 7: nice to play behind him. His get off is crazy,
Speaker 7: his strength is crazy. I think there's more. He fine
Speaker 7: tunes his game within the scheme of learning the playbook,
Speaker 7: which is I feel he's picking up very well. But
Speaker 7: just once he learns those five those finite things, and
Speaker 7: I know he'll pick up details from from Justin Jones
Speaker 7: and those guys in his room as well. So once
Speaker 7: this season kind of gets comfortable, or he gets comfortable
Speaker 7: in his skin and who he is as a player,
Speaker 7: he's going to be a monster for us.
Speaker 1: Okay, what running back is the beast that blitz pick up?
Speaker 1: And what running back runs the best.
Speaker 7: Routes for the Cardinals? Yes, I will say the blizz
Speaker 7: pick up has got to be James Cunnor. We wanna
Speaker 7: get him a couple times in our practice, and uh,
Speaker 7: he might have had all of us. I will say
Speaker 7: he might have had all of us.
Speaker 3: He used to be in the same d line room
Speaker 3: with Aaron Donald at pitt before they converted him to
Speaker 3: a running back.
Speaker 1: Which I mean, what should it make us?
Speaker 7: What makes sense for sure, because his strength is and
Speaker 7: the way his hands are are crazy. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 7: I will say the best routes you probably gotta give
Speaker 7: it to. I mean, James up there too, but Mike Carter.
Speaker 7: He's just a shifty guy that can get it in
Speaker 7: the out of his cuts and he's a heck of
Speaker 7: a talent two for us.
Speaker 3: All right, So Chris is wrapping up when you go
Speaker 3: against Green Bay this year Cardinals and Packers. You know,
Speaker 3: are you a trash talker? You're gonna be yelling across
Speaker 3: the line your guy, Jordan Love. How's that gonna work?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I mean I don't already say too much trash during
Speaker 7: the game, kind of keep it between the white lines
Speaker 7: and talking my pads. But I might say a couple
Speaker 7: of things before the game for the game, say a
Speaker 7: couple things to more for more players I know over
Speaker 7: there too that are still playing. And gotta say a
Speaker 7: little treshot to my god Jay love too as well.
Speaker 7: But it's there's no love between the lines than the
Speaker 7: all four quarters after.
Speaker 1: That will be all love again. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: it comes. Week five. Glad you're here. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Yeah, glad to be here. We enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: There you go, Chris Barnes. We continue with a big
Speaker 3: red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert second down
Speaker 3: and eight Carnalds of the Saints ten, trying thirteen to
Speaker 3: seven to the year out of the gun throwed in
Speaker 3: the near flat haff by Tony Jones Jr. Makes a
Speaker 3: man miss of the five dives towards the pylons. Hen
Speaker 3: he's in touchdown. Cardinals, Tony Jones Junior finishes the drive
Speaker 3: with the catch and run into the end zone and
Speaker 3: look at Claim tun and celebrating with all the offensive linemen,
Speaker 3: daffing them up. Tuned in a great job scanning the
Speaker 3: end zone and then realizing I got to hit my
Speaker 3: check down. And Tony Jones Junior did the rest, feeding
Speaker 3: the Saints defense to the pilot. So the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 3: have a quarterback question.
Speaker 1: It's QB two.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been accused the times of trying to
Speaker 3: fan the flames of a quarterback controversy to get us
Speaker 3: through training camp. Indeed, I could easily do it right now,
Speaker 3: but I won't. All right, decorum will intervene and common sense.
Speaker 3: But there is a competition going on for QB two.
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Big Red Rage, our all weather
Speaker 3: edition here in Indianapolis. Joint practices in the books. The
Speaker 3: second one water logged. But as the olderfro Holt said,
Speaker 3: a lot of ups, some downs. We got a lot
Speaker 3: out of this. Chris Barnes very positive, right, you're him
Speaker 3: talking all about that. Appreciate his time, and so you
Speaker 3: know it's as close as the regulars guys who will
Speaker 3: never see the preseason we'll ever get to a regular
Speaker 3: season look in the month of August because they're not
Speaker 3: playing in these preseason games. So boom, there you go.
Speaker 3: But once again we come back to a big question
Speaker 3: for Mania support and Jonathan Gannett QB two. You go ahead,
Speaker 3: you size it up. Who is the clubhouse leader? Is
Speaker 3: there one? And where do you think this is all tracking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, you know, once again, I do believe that
Speaker 1: Clayton Tune has the advantage right now. Now, this is
Speaker 1: just me. Nobody has said a word to me about this. Okay.
Speaker 1: I love Desmond Ridder, I love his game. I was
Speaker 1: really excited when the Cardinals acquired Desmond Ridder. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking at him right now and I'm thinking, Okay, I
Speaker 1: think Clayton Tune has the advantage because of how he
Speaker 1: played against the New Orleans Saints. Clayton Tune had a
Speaker 1: very very strong game. Ridder not so much. And because
Speaker 1: of that, I would say, if Clayton Tune goes out
Speaker 1: there and starts, and I believe he's going to start
Speaker 1: the first half of this second game, this preseason game
Speaker 1: coming up, and then Desmond Ridder will get to play
Speaker 1: in the second half, just the way that it was.
Speaker 1: But it was opposite, of course, it was Desmond Ridder
Speaker 1: getting the start and then Clayton Tune playing in the
Speaker 1: second half. I think if Clayton Tune goes out there
Speaker 1: and lights it up again like he kind of did
Speaker 1: in the second half of that first game, I think
Speaker 1: he's probably going to win that job Paul at that
Speaker 1: point in time. Now, again I don't have any inside
Speaker 1: information on that, but I think that Clayton Tune has
Speaker 1: had a better training camp overall than Desmond Ridder.
Speaker 3: The contrast was striking from the first half where first
Speaker 3: downs were really hard to come by, to right out
Speaker 3: of the gate first drive of the second half, he
Speaker 3: just moved the Cardinals right down the field. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: completion after completion, couple of chunk throws in there. He
Speaker 3: made it look very easy. Those who do it best
Speaker 3: make it look easy. He was very efficient. It just
Speaker 3: there was a striking contrast. Now, you could argue that
Speaker 3: Desnion Ritter had a second team offensive line going against
Speaker 3: the ones for New Orleans. You're a good part of
Speaker 3: the first quarter. That's a legit argument, correct, he had
Speaker 3: a chunk throw down the sideline on the money to
Speaker 3: Blake Whiteheart dropped, dropped. That's tough. That really impacted his
Speaker 3: stats and that would have, you know, got the Cardinals
Speaker 3: down into Saints' territory. So there were a few mitigating factors, no.
Speaker 1: Doubt about it, Bully once again. But it's not just
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints game. It's also training cap yep
Speaker 1: in general. I think we've we've all been watching this
Speaker 1: and again Desmond Ritter and Clayton Tune are locked in
Speaker 1: a battle for QB two right now. But also kind
Speaker 1: of like today, just watching it today, go out there
Speaker 1: and Desmond Ritter, he threw a pick during two minutes,
Speaker 1: it's a two minute drill. They had a live situation
Speaker 1: going out out there where they wanted to really go
Speaker 1: up tempo and Desmond Ritter was out there and he
Speaker 1: threw a pick and Clayton Tune literal on the next play.
Speaker 1: Desmond at one play threw the pick and that was it,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they put Clayton Tune in
Speaker 1: new possession. That's what it was. So they put him
Speaker 1: in and Clayton Tune actually moved the ball in that
Speaker 1: two minute drill. Again, it was one period, it was
Speaker 1: one drill, but it was a drill in which Clayton
Speaker 1: Tune looked better than Desmond Ritter.
Speaker 3: Here's Jonathan Gannon this week on how the two backup
Speaker 3: quarterbacks played against the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 4: I thought did some good things. I mean extendison plays.
Speaker 4: I know he ripped that. I mean the protection was
Speaker 4: really good, but he ripped the third down to Zach
Speaker 4: that ended up being explosive play. Some things that get
Speaker 4: better at. Clayton came in, made some throws. The operation
Speaker 4: was pretty clean, has some things he's got to clean
Speaker 4: up and get better at. So like where that's at.
Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes the next couple of days.
Speaker 4: Make a decision who's going in when. I like the
Speaker 4: plan laid out right now as we sit here today,
Speaker 4: but depending on what happens these next two days, we
Speaker 4: might adapt that. But they're both in a good spot
Speaker 4: ready to go.
Speaker 3: Clayton Tune looks like he's in year two of a system.
Speaker 3: He looks like he's in year two of an NFL career.
Speaker 3: Last year, the one game we got to see him
Speaker 3: during the regular season, that was rough. Go for multiple reasons. One,
Speaker 3: you're going against Cleveland. He was a fierce win down
Speaker 3: on the field, but you had a fierce defense. You're
Speaker 3: going against Miles Garrett, NFL Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 3: leading the way. But I think more than anything, he
Speaker 3: was laid in his decision making and seven times he
Speaker 3: was sacked and a number of those were on the quarterback.
Speaker 3: And Jonathan Ganna has meant Barton once during this training
Speaker 3: camp that he's just quicker his decision makers, decision making,
Speaker 3: He's quicker in his release. You know, the accuracy and
Speaker 3: anticipation has always been there for Claytonton. He's just he
Speaker 3: knows where he's going pre snap and what he told
Speaker 3: the media right pre snap and post snap are now
Speaker 3: linking up in his mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was really a tough assignment right there, PAULI,
Speaker 1: when you think about it as well as you already
Speaker 1: said Miles Garrett, the Cleveland Browns, okay, one of the
Speaker 1: best defenses, if not the best defense in terms of
Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. Very very tough assignment right there
Speaker 1: for Clayton Tune in that one game that he was
Speaker 1: out there playing. But having said that, it does look
Speaker 1: like he has taken that next step, and you got
Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder, a guy once again who I'm not ruling
Speaker 1: out because if he goes out and plays well here
Speaker 1: it is game two. He plays well in Indianapolis, of course,
Speaker 1: that could change everything going into week three. I just
Speaker 1: have this feeling if he does struggle again, that you
Speaker 1: might want to go ahead and declare trying to give
Speaker 1: Clayton Tune a little bit of confidence, maybe saying, hey,
Speaker 1: if Clayton Tune goes out and plays great against the Colts,
Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder might struggle again, you might want to go
Speaker 1: ahead and just declare, hey, he's going to be our guy.
Speaker 1: He's going to be our backup going into it. We
Speaker 1: don't know how many quarterbacks we're going to keep. We
Speaker 1: don't know that yet. I'm sure there's a possibility they
Speaker 1: could only keep two, maybe a third on the practice
Speaker 1: squad because you want that extra arm in camp. But
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see how it's all gonna
Speaker 1: shake out. It's a long way from a decided who's
Speaker 1: QB two.
Speaker 3: So the media asked Clayton Tune, all right, how do
Speaker 3: you think you played against the New Orleans Saints. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I definitely felt more comfortable. I felt like I was.
Speaker 1: Seeing the defense and confident in the game plan.
Speaker 3: So you know, I felt like I was seeing it
Speaker 3: well and playing on time. Here's the thing, They're only
Speaker 3: keeping two quarterbacks, and I'd lean towards that just based
Speaker 3: on the fact you have a loaded roster, much more competitive,
Speaker 3: much more talented than a year ago. Great observation, you're
Speaker 3: gonna want that spot, so okay, and now all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, let's say that you get further confirmation on
Speaker 3: what we already seen. Clayton Tuon is going to be
Speaker 3: quarterback two. And that's your takeaway after Saturday night against
Speaker 3: the Colts preseason game number two. I threw this out
Speaker 3: there earlier. Once again, I'm not sure trying to stir
Speaker 3: it up. I'm just openly wondering, thinking out loud, does
Speaker 3: Mania support try and find a fit for Desmond Ridder
Speaker 3: elsewhere just because he might have actual trade value since
Speaker 3: he has over a dozen starts under his belt the
Speaker 3: last two years for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, you're right on, at Polly. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what I see as well. They're listen. You always
Speaker 1: have to remember the fact that the Cardinals gave up
Speaker 1: something to get Desmond Ridder. Okay, Clayton soon they went
Speaker 1: ahead and drafted him. Now you know, I mean that's
Speaker 1: something near and dear to their heart as well, but
Speaker 1: they drafted them. You want ahead and gave something up
Speaker 1: Rondel Moore to actually get Desmond Ridder here. So because
Speaker 1: of that, Polly, you're right on this thing. And it
Speaker 1: may be a situation where if Clayton soon goes out
Speaker 1: in that second preseason game, you may want to go
Speaker 1: ahead and research what is going on out there because
Speaker 1: there would be people that would want to want to
Speaker 1: make a move, maybe Desmond Ritter, if in fact they
Speaker 1: knew they had two weeks before the season to do it.
Speaker 3: Look at the Vikings with JJ McCarthy. Look at the Rams,
Speaker 3: Matthew Staffords little banged up. Guess what, Jimmy g can't
Speaker 3: play the first two games. He suspended Stetson Bennett just
Speaker 3: threw four interceptions in a preseason game, just saying there
Speaker 3: might be takers and those interested. He's a quarterback man,
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Speaker 3: All right, these rookies from last year have definitely made
Speaker 3: a jump, including Oen Papo. We're going to talk about him,
Speaker 3: other guys who are flashing on defense. It is the
Speaker 3: big red Rage from Indianapolis, all presented by santan forward
Speaker 3: in Gilbert third down at twelve car with time he's
Speaker 3: gonna check down into the flat and nothing doing. Oh
Speaker 3: and Papo runs down the running back along the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, three and out for the Saints offense and
Speaker 3: the athletic inside linebacker making the play in space. When
Speaker 3: I realized Owen Papo played sixteen games as a rookie
Speaker 3: last year, his Twitter handle at the freak and he
Speaker 3: showed that ability there. Well, if I mentioned this, there's
Speaker 3: an old saying in the war room. When you get
Speaker 3: into rounds five, six, and seven, win into doubt. Take
Speaker 3: the freak. Take someone with that athletic upside. Take someone
Speaker 3: who would have the measureables and the ability to compete
Speaker 3: in the NFL. But maybe there's a drawbacker he needs
Speaker 3: further seasoning or what have you. So when you're in
Speaker 3: round five and you see this year Xavier Thomas is
Speaker 3: on the board, for example, and he has elite speed
Speaker 3: off the edge, boom, Wait a minute, it's worth taking
Speaker 3: a shot. Last year, Owen Papo, the guy whose twitter
Speaker 3: and will again is at the freak and were really
Speaker 3: speedy guy and ultra strong, and but maybe it was
Speaker 3: just a little raw coming out. And now all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, under the tutelage of a Kai Zerra White
Speaker 3: and Chris Barnes we heard from earlier, Look what you
Speaker 3: might have in year two, Paulli.
Speaker 1: There's also an old saying that says, take the football player,
Speaker 1: not the freak. All right, take the football player, not
Speaker 1: the freak. I'm just say there's two school of thoughts
Speaker 1: on that one, right there. Man, Your thoughts on what
Speaker 1: you're seeing right now, though, Paully, your thoughts on what's
Speaker 1: happened in some numbers, Maybe that comes to mind to you.
Speaker 3: Well, I think of the entire draft class in year two,
Speaker 3: Garris Johnson Junior is now your franchise left tackle, and
Speaker 3: he looked good against the likes of DeForest Buckner and
Speaker 3: Leato Alatu. In these joint practices, you got Michael Wilson,
Speaker 3: you have Garrett Williams, big hawks, big components on both
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. Right, So think of all the
Speaker 3: guys who have taken Clayton tune looked so much better
Speaker 3: in year two. Think of the guys last year and
Speaker 3: now Owen Papos, Dante Stills, why doing up last week?
Speaker 3: Think of the guys last year who have taken that
Speaker 3: big leap into year two and the return on investment
Speaker 3: Manias Safford is getting from that initial draft class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, I'm really encouraged what I'm seeing with Paris
Speaker 1: Johnson Jr. I really am in the job that he
Speaker 1: has been doing here. That's a number that has grabbed
Speaker 1: my attention. Also, Darius Robinson, I'm so sorry, but you
Speaker 1: you this guy is popping. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: I saw the bull rush against Quentin Nelson as well. Now,
Speaker 1: again it's one bull rush in a one on one,
Speaker 1: but we've seen Darius Robinson do some other things so
Speaker 1: far in training camp. The New Orlands Saints game, the
Speaker 1: first preseason game. How well he played. He came with
Speaker 1: a arm over swim after jacking Caesar Louise, the right guard,
Speaker 1: a guy who was a first round pick, a guy
Speaker 1: who was a starter for the New Orleans Saints. Jacking
Speaker 1: him and then swimming the move was incredible. Now the
Speaker 1: ball came out, it was battered into the air, of course,
Speaker 1: but what Darius Robinson has flashed is really really impressive
Speaker 1: in that game and in training camp, and he continues
Speaker 1: to grab the eye.
Speaker 3: I'm getting to the point now or I'm not even
Speaker 3: listening to what guys are saying. I'm just observing the
Speaker 3: reaction when you say the name Darius Robinson. Did you
Speaker 3: hear Chris Barnes earlier in the show, we brought up
Speaker 3: Darius Robinson. Oh yeah, right, just his reaction gamer And
Speaker 3: so okay, so you have that. Now, let's get back
Speaker 3: to on Papo for a minute, because he has really
Speaker 3: emerged over the course of this camp. And here's what
Speaker 3: he had to say just about his objective and how
Speaker 3: he wants to make an impression.
Speaker 5: Early at the end of last season, you know, jayj
Speaker 5: had to meet on Otto Rooki's and he's just really
Speaker 5: talked about how important it is that jumped from year
Speaker 5: one year two. You know, so this whole offseason, just
Speaker 5: keep my head down, put in a lot of work,
Speaker 5: and de Mangos just making ampression early. So he's just
Speaker 5: gonna keep on building everything I've done so far.
Speaker 3: It's just me thinking out out loud here again. But
Speaker 3: if mac Wilson Senior goes to the edge, especially on
Speaker 3: third down, Owen Papo comes in, has the speed to
Speaker 3: cover backs and tight ends, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: mac Wilson Senior is one of those edge rushers and
Speaker 3: it's Kaisier and Owen Papo in those situations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's a possibility, Paul. I think it
Speaker 1: would have to be based on the down in distance,
Speaker 1: as you said, is a third no obvious pass situation
Speaker 1: where you're gonna take mac Wilson and put him up
Speaker 1: there on the edge. That's a possibility. But maybe you're
Speaker 1: gonna bring a dB in somebody, a dB you might
Speaker 1: actually bring in there, depending on the personnel group that's
Speaker 1: out on the field. Maybe it's eleven personnel, maybe it's
Speaker 1: den It really it depends on the situation. I think
Speaker 1: who the personnel might be, but I will tell you
Speaker 1: right now, Xavier Thomas is a guy that you have
Speaker 1: noticed and mentioned to me a couple of times, and
Speaker 1: I'm just watching him develop as well. He got the sack,
Speaker 1: of course in the Saints game, a couple of other
Speaker 1: nice pass rush moves coming from Xavier Thomas in that game.
Speaker 1: He's done the same thing here. Xavier Thomas has has
Speaker 1: flashed again. At least in my way of thinking. I
Speaker 1: think this young guy's got a chance. Something's happening with him, Paul,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but something is definitely
Speaker 1: happening with fifty four.
Speaker 3: When you see him go against the Colts starting right
Speaker 3: tackle Braden Smith and he had his way in a
Speaker 3: couple of reps, you realize, Okay, this isn't just a
Speaker 3: byproduct of him going against backups and Cardinals camp that
Speaker 3: he is legit. Love to hear what Jonathan Gannon thinks
Speaker 3: after this second preseason game.
Speaker 1: And the other player too, LJ. Collier. This is a
Speaker 1: guy that we have talked about disruptive. He is disruptive.
Speaker 1: That is great, and that's it. That's exactly what they
Speaker 1: would want him to be. Is that three technique you
Speaker 1: could put in there who would be disruptive. The most
Speaker 1: destructive force in the universe is a disruptive three technique
Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald knows all about that. And LJ. Collier
Speaker 1: just because he's not a three hundred and thirty pounder,
Speaker 1: he's not that big guy. He's built like Aaron Donald. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald. I'm just saying his build,
Speaker 1: his frame very similar.
Speaker 3: And a former first round pick of Seattle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Two other guys the Cardinals grabbed off the scrap heat
Speaker 3: at the end of camp last year. Roy Lopez has
Speaker 3: been a standout and Starling Thomas. Here's Starling Thomas on
Speaker 3: what he did this offseason to make his own jump.
Speaker 8: I just feel like the bastiments I put into myself
Speaker 8: and the overall game and the sacrifice that I made
Speaker 8: this offseason.
Speaker 1: I didn't go home.
Speaker 8: I actually stay here and kind of work with Buddha
Speaker 8: and jto off season and just being around those guys
Speaker 8: and they save you around good people and you belcome
Speaker 8: good yourself. So being around two pro bo type players, man,
Speaker 8: I'm trying to become on myself. So just hanging out
Speaker 8: with those guys has elevated me a lot.
Speaker 3: Coming into camp. It was arguably the biggest question. Who
Speaker 3: was going to start on the other side of Sean
Speaker 3: Murphy bunting. Now, when you're going with only two corners,
Speaker 3: it could be Garret Williams. But for the most part,
Speaker 3: you're playing three cornerbacks and you're gonna play that Slaughter
Speaker 3: Nickel corner. So who's outside and right now, if you're
Speaker 3: gonna line up and play, it would be Starling Thomas,
Speaker 3: especially since Max Melton has been nicked up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Man, he looks really, really good too. I love the
Speaker 1: way Startling Thomas is competing, No doubt about that. Pully.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, the number three wide receiver,
Speaker 1: Who is your number three wide receiver on the team
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Well, I would definitely go Greg Dorsch, but he would
Speaker 3: be your slot receiver if you're going an outside receiver.
Speaker 3: I thought, who had a good practice today? Zay Jones Jones.
Speaker 3: I thought he had two good practices against the Colts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zay Jones has flashed. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Polly a nice dig route, ran an awesome dig route,
Speaker 1: and Clayton tune in that two minute drill actually hit
Speaker 1: him good throw by Clayton Tune in really bad weather
Speaker 1: as well right now. But Greg Dorch is he's on
Speaker 1: a mission right now. He is eleven personnel. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have Michael Wilson, I think, with Marvin Harrison junior of course,
Speaker 1: and then Greg Dortch could be that third guy. Say
Speaker 1: Jones might be into that mix as well, but Greg
Speaker 1: Dortch in terms of running routes, he's smoking dudes right now.
Speaker 3: The fifth receiver spot is something to watch against the
Speaker 3: Colton cerinnat Xavier Weaver, the undrafted rookie on Colorado, and
Speaker 3: Dan Shasena, who we both learned in the last twenty
Speaker 3: four hours might be the fastest guy in the team.
Speaker 1: Four three to two.
Speaker 3: I did not know that he ran track at Penn State,
Speaker 3: and so his performance against the Saints a preseason game
Speaker 3: number one is certainly not a fluke. He's been doing
Speaker 3: it on the practice field with regularity. Hey, Cardinals student
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