WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - A Super Soaker At Joint Practice Finale, LB Krys Barnes Gives Update On Defense 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.240 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles on ahead. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:06.560 He got jacked. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:11.920 This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:12.440 and Gilbert. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.920 Terry's gonna score touchdown. Slim to the ground by Buddha 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.000 Baker Like a torpedo, he keeps flying out of the back. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.160 Deal the Rage. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:26.040 It's brought to you by santan Ford and Gilbert. Right 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.600 on the price, right on the corner of the sand 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:30.240 Tan two to two freeway in. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.000 Valves WAA crab by Tray McBride. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:39.720 That was spectacular, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.520 dot Com Slash podcast. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.360 All Right, Sea is rising Up. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.960 Timbert Rising Vision, Blurry Rage, take it over. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:51.680 Here's Paul Calbci. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.840 I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.360 I'm telling you I'm ready. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:56.440 And Ron Wolfley. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:01.240 It doesn't get any better than that board. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.520 Why don't we start with today's forecast here in the 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:12.240 Hoosier State, Ron Wolfley, as delivered by Cardinals' resident meteorologist 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.720 Trey mcplay on the sideline. Two words he shouted out 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:21.039 when we were over there, football weather. Yes, this is 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.720 what Drey McBride said, And sure enough, we are bringing 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.039 you the all weather, water log, rain soaked edition of 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.280 The Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.760 We are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic here, Ron Wolfley there 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.200 in the Great state of Indiana. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.679 You know what, PAULI, I don't think it just rained. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.399 I think it poured for the most part. Right, It 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.840 kind of poured there for a while. I'd say the 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.400 first half of practice, for the most part, it was rough. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:49.840 And the reason why it was rough, PAULI is you 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:55.560 well know, the field was soaked, the players were soaked in, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.480 the pick was soaked. But all three of those things 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.400 together it was kind of hard to evaluate what was 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:02.720 going on on the field. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.920 Now, Ron Woofley, as a Buffalo Native, Cardinals are tracking 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.919 for Week one. Everything they're doing right now just is 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.200 with one objective, get a win in Week one, September eighth. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:18.480 It is exactly is there a chance of weather, chance 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:24.239 of rain? Historically on a September eighth day in Buffalo. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.000 New York, Yeah, Paul, you could have a beautiful day, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.560 no doubt about that. In Orchard Park, New York, where 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.600 the Buffalo Bills play, it could be a beautiful day. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.720 Or it could be nasty, Paul. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.760 So maybe, just maybe it might prove beneficial. We'll see, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.960 hopefully not. But once again, the All Weather joint practice 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.120 number two. A couple of days, we're gonna talk to 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.080 Chris Barnes all about it. Cardinals standout linebacker. I do 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.680 say stand out because he got a call out. He 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.440 got a shout out from the head coach, Jonathan Gannon 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.239 after the preseason game number one against New Orleans. We 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.519 talk about that. We'll get into all that speaking to 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.200 the head coach. Here's Jonathan and Gannon this week, last 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.720 couple of days, just on the importance of these joint practices, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.520 which are all the rage these days in the NFL 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:11.520 against the Colts. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.120 They know they're competing for their roles, and I mean, 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.000 this is, in my opinion, the closest thing that you 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.880 can get besides a preseason game to Week one at Buffalo. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:22.960 So they're all business tonight. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.519 They're nothing new. You went through them back in your day. Wolf, Yeah, 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.399 they seem to be more popular than ever with head coaches. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.440 There's no doubt about it. And I think Paully, it's 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.160 really obvious as to why that would be. Right now, 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.480 I think coaches, not just head coaches, but I think 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.960 player and position coaches. I think they get up close 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.080 and personal views of the guy that they're coaching, and 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.880 they love that, Pauli. They're running back coach, the offensive 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.880 line coach, the defensive line coach. They get to look 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.440 a guy in the eye as he's getting ready to 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.960 get in a three point stance and try to bury 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.760 somebody to look at them. They get to talk to 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:06.120 them during before and after the rep that they take 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.000 in one on one period. So I think they love it. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.680 They love the up close, personal, hands on let me 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:17.039 evaluate this guy. And yet today PAULI, it was really 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.000 really difficult to evaluate it once again because of the rain. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:25.640 Throws are difficult to evaluate sometimes because the ball is 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:30.000 so wet. Catches are difficult. Drops. Was it at a 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.760 drop or did it? Was it just the ball being 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:37.520 so wet. Get Offs by edge players rushing the passer, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.480 you know, hey, your get off isn't good here, Well, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:41.880 maybe that's because of the fitting. 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:41.960 It. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.279 It's tough to evaluate as a coach as well. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.200 What's invaluable as well is when you have a guy 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:53.200 like DeForest Buckner, multiple time All Pro defensive lineman, all 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.920 six foot seven of them. You get a different evaluation 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.840 of your offensive lineman. Sure, going against a guy like that. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.280 When you see Darius Robbin on Day one going against 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.720 Quenton Nelson six Pro Bowls and six years, three time 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.200 All Pro and Darius Robinson has a couple of pretty 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.440 pretty good reps against Quenton Nelson, you start to get 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.520 to a different evaluation of your guys. So it can 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.440 be positive, it can be negative. You really get a 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.400 sense of what guys need to work on when you see, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.680 for example, a Marvin Harrison Junior in a driving rain 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.040 against Jalen Jones's starting cornerback today just run a money 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.200 route in the red zone for a touchdown catch? 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.599 Really did? Marvin Harrison Junior has definitely popped. He popped 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.240 yesterday as a matter of fact, and today he popped 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.880 as well. I saw him yesterday. I saw him actually 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.679 line up. He was to the right of Kyler Murray. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.600 He got press coverage. He converted whatever route he was 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.880 going to run to a fade, all right, just down 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.160 the sideline. Here it goes a fade to the outside 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:58.039 and Kyler Murray threw a beautiful pass. Again, this was 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.719 yesterday on Marvin Harrison Junior. Marvin Harrison Junior went up 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.920 and caught the ball. It was a perfect throw, perfectly 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.680 executed between those two guys, and it made me think, Paulie, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.719 that's the possibility right there. You're gonna go ahead and 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.280 press Marvin Harrison Jr. You might be careful about that 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.680 because here comes the fade his verticality. He's a tall 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.640 player to begin with. Right now, He's got low legs, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.080 no doubt, but he's got a long trunk and a 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.560 long reach. And because of that, man that fade. If 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.640 Kyler with his accuracy, especially when he's throwing the ball 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:38.159 to the right, with his accuracy, that could be very dangerous, 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.800 just like Aaron Rodgers made that play so dangerous. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.160 They haven't even played in a preseason game. They won't 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.560 play in a preseason game together before Week one against Buffalo. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.560 You can already see the chemistry. Yeah, they're already in sync. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.240 In fact, that was a question to Marvin Harrison Junior 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.400 when he met the media yesterday talking about his dad's 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.360 relationship once upon a time with Peyton Manning a couple 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.880 of Hall of famers there, compared to his relationship now 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:04.200 with Kyler Murray. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.520 I'm want to say everybody studied my dad and Peyton's relationship. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:08.760 They had their relationship. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.880 Me and kind of have our relationship, and then we 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.360 both don't trying to do great things. If we could 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:14.720 do what they did, I'd be great. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:15.400 Well we're doing. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.720 We're just worried about and continue to build a relationship. 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.040 Haven't even played a game yet, so I'm trying to 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:21.200 take a baby stets right now. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.760 It's great to see Marvin Harrison Senior out there. Hall 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.680 of Famer. He was out watching his son and uh, 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.040 you know a lot of fanfare from the Colts fans 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.400 just knowing that Marvin Harrison Junior was out there. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.480 Man, where do you begin when you think about this? 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.360 I think of a kid, Marvin Harrison Junior and the 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.520 fact that he's out there where his dad. Literally he's 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.080 a legend, he is. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.160 I mean, there's Mormon Arison Junior having a conversation. I'm 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.000 not sure how with the Colts mascot Blue, You're like, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.800 wait a minute, did the Colts mascot break character? I 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.559 don't know, but that was a great video. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.640 No, That's what I'm talking about. It just you know, 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.360 how can you imagine the pressure that is on him 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.040 to go out there and make a play, do something good. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.960 You know, my dad is over here and he's watching it. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.480 You know, everyone knows who. I just can't even imagine 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.680 what that was like for Marvin Harrison Junior. Yet he 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.880 flashed a couple of times, no doubt about it. So 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.640 did Trey McBride, whether it was in a seven on 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.160 seven period. And that's where you know, you don't have 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.280 the defensive line, you don't have the offensive line, but 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.640 you've got linebackers of course, and you've got the secondary, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.520 and then you've got your wide receivers in your tight end, 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.720 and you're running backs and your quarterback. That's what you 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.040 have in seven on seven. It's throwing the ball. This 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.720 is what you do in that seven on seven period. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.840 You saw Trey McBride really flash in that as well, 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.839 and I love to see that that kind of chemistry 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.479 developing between Kyler and Trey. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.360 Especially if that gravitational pull of coverage goes towards Marvin 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.160 Harrison Junior. To think of the possibilities of Trey McBride, 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.199 who spent the last two months of last season getting 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.320 double coverage all the time. By the way, kick quick 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.800 side note of Marvin Rrison Junior. He's gonna walk into 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.719 the Colts Holme Stadium. His dad's name is going to 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.240 be in the rafters, and he was asked, what will 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:17.560 that mean to you? 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:18.520 Definitely? 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.600 Unfortunately I haven't got a chance to play there, obviously 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.760 playing a Big ten championship now he got a chance 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.880 to make it there. But I've been in there before, 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.000 and seeing his name there will be special, especially as 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.320 a player there. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.320 You go and look, he's talked about it. We talked 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:32.880 about it right after the draft here on the big 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.200 Red Rage. He spent his entire life, guess what with 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.719 the name Harrison as his nameplate in the back of 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.000 his jersey. It sets the standard. He tries to live 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.640 up and exceed this standard his dad's set. It does 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.839 drive him, he admits that. But as you've pointed out, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.439 he's a different player, He's a different type of receiver. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.400 He still runs those precise routes, but in his size 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.559 and his speed and a couple of times we saw 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.319 now once again, nobody's touching Marvin Harrison Junior, either in 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.120 Cardinals scamp or coltscamp. It's just not happening. So I'm 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.240 really curious to see how he is after the catch 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.320 in the regular season, because he has looked elusive and 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.320 he has looked for him. He has the ability to 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.760 get some serious yaks some yards after catch. I don't 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.320 know if he's actually breaking tackles, but he does a 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.480 really good job of avoiding guys in space, and I 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.160 am curious how elusive he proves to be after the catch. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.120 Yeah, you know, once again, I think he is known 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.320 for being a great route runner, and it's not a 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.880 surprise when you watch him go do it because you 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.400 hear me say this Polly all the time. He's got 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:38.720 low legs. He's low legs, but his trunk is so long. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.840 It's one of the reasons why he's as tall as 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.560 he is. He's got low legs, which allows him to 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.760 run great routes, but his trunk is so long. It's 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.120 kind of different looking at Marvin Harrison Junior right now. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.000 But man, I'm really excited based on what we're seeing, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:11:00.000 and I realize, look, it's two days of practice against 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.800 the Indianapolis Colts. It's practice, man, Okay, it's not what's 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.120 gonna happen in a game. How many reps will he 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.080 actually get with the Colts. I don't know, but I'm 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.640 just gonna throw this at you. If you're Drew Petsing 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.920 and you're jg Hey, look his dad's names up in 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.960 the raptors. Throw the guy the ball. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.360 So get him out there for the three snaps, get them, 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.520 get him the football, get him a target, Get him 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.520 a target. Well, he told you last week he wants 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.720 preseason action. He got some in Week one, just didn't 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.520 get any catches. So all right, we'll get back into this. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.559 We'll get you some more takeaways, name some more names 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.160 from the joint practices. When we come back, we're gonna 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:42.959 talk to Chris Barnes. Right by the way. Our a 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.360 minor single game tickets are on sale now. Go to 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.960 Azycardinals dot com slash buy tickets to secure your seats 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.960 today at Inside Linebacker Room. Oh my goodness, they have 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.240 stood out. They have a d lining from him. We'll 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.320 talk about all that and more from Indy. The Big 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:02.200 Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert prestep drop 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.520 for strade from the pocket, pass over the middle. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.439 Picked off, it's sent accepted by Barnes at. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.120 The ten, running it back to the left of the 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.600 twenty at the thirties, Barnes running on the jets of 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:15.120 the forties and finally tackle the midfield to deflected pass. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.080 Into Chris Barnes and then man Chris Barnes, looking ladies 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:20.360 running up four to four? 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.840 You know what I hear there, Ron Wolfley, what's up, Baul? 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.880 I hear another defensive candidate for your full back clock. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.000 Oh. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.360 Last year was Jesse Luketta. This year, may I present 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:38.080 Chris Barnes, Cardinals inside linebacker, the dude who showed off 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.520 some serious jets. I was on the sideline in Houston 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.320 when that happened. I'm telling you right now, guys are like, whoa, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.920 that was a serious burst. There was a hot moment 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.520 we thought he was taking at the distance. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.840 Chris, could you do that? Do you think you could 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.720 actually play full back? Line up and play full back? 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.800 I mean, I actually think I could do anything on 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.800 a field. Whatever's ass As long as you give me 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.000 the details of what's to do, that's right, I can 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.440 make it happen. All right. 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.439 Chris Barnes is our guest here on the Big Red Rage, 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.000 presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert all right, So how's 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.080 the preseason. How's camp going, how's the month of August? 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:09.840 Where you're at? Do you like where you're at? 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:10.120 Yeah? 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.880 Of course, So I think everything's going going well right 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.360 now for the team, even individually too as well. We're 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.719 in the think of camp for sure. We're actually a 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.840 joint practice right now against the coach, which is a 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.520 great opportunity to kind of test our skills, test our 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.680 scheme against what they got going as well. But I 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.560 think for myself, I'm having a pretty good camp. I 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.880 came in, I guessed in different shape this year, took 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.800 care of my body in a different different way this off. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.520 He's in kind of just paid more attention to maximizing 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.719 my five buckets, as coach jg be saying, So I 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.400 forgot I took that to heat this year and came 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.839 in ready to go. So right now I'm feeling good, 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.800 even though we're in think of camp. My body has 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.599 those normal camp bruises, but for the most part, I 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.040 remember it. I'm ready to go. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.240 So Chris, so, what is the best thing about joint 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.760 practices and what is the worst thing about joint practice? Yeah? 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.080 I think the best thing, honestly is just not having 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.000 to hit your own teammates really just going to get 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.360 somebody else, not in a game like atmosphere, But you're 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.360 still able to get that work with an opponent, be 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.760 able to test our rules, test our our eyes, test 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.560 our communication as a defense, even as offense as well. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.240 And going against the Coats, I mean they have they're 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:15.640 pretty good team. They have a lot of things they 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.120 can do with their quarterback, their weapons they have on 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.280 a receiver as well, and even their running back as well. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.840 So for us, it's about playing rules ball then go 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.160 test that. I would say the worst thing is just 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.040 traveling really, It's just coming from the West Coast out 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.480 here to Indy is a little bit of a little 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.000 bit of a flight. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.960 You're tea time difference. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.240 We're playing that six we're playing practicing at six pm, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:37.920 which is kind of new for us a little bit. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.320 But I would say that's probably the only worst thing 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:41.040 about this whole thing. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.600 Nothing is like game intensity. But what's it like in 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.840 a joint practice when you're lined up and there's another 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.360 team over there and you can just feel the eyes 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:49.200 on you, right. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:50.760 Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean the fans make it 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.720 a little bit like a game atmosphere too, as well, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.880 But when you have a different color jersey line of 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.720 across from you, you always kind of had the S 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.760 team to be like, okay, let's go just that little 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.440 bit harder because you know, no more to protect your teammate. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.560 Protect this isn't that, But you still want to be professionals, 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:06.920 still don't want to hurt nobody out out there in 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.880 our practice field. So auntisity's up, for sure, violence is 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.280 definitely up, but uh we still were still out there 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:13.000 practically smart. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:14.640 Did you get some juice out there? 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:19.160 Yes, somebody, Yeah, a little bit, a little bit of juice, 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.800 a little bit heard coach is saying, keep him up, 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.640 keep him up. But for the most part is more 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.760 so just kind of shipping for the ball, trying to 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.400 get some punches out. A lot of guys out there 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:28.720 flying around, make a lot of plays. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.640 So there's definitely some buzz about Anthony Richardson. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:31.880 Right. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.400 You look at the Colts quarterback, I'm like, wow, that 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.120 reminds me of Cam Newton. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.680 Yeah, you tell, he's like a I don't say a specimen, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.640 but he's definitely one of those guys where he has 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.160 all the tangibles. He's got the high, got the way, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.640 got the speed, got the arm, talent, got everything. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.560 It was amazing because we were talking to a coach 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.600 and I will not mention his name right here, but 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.560 we were talking to a coach from the Colts and 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.720 he told us he can re enact the Michael Jordan's 0:15:55.720 --> 0:16:00.480 slam dunk taking off from the fall line. You could 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.120 actually do that, right, He could actually do it and 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:03.920 does it. Yeah. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.560 I've seen a couple of videos on social media of 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.080 him doing like windmill dunks, two hands slams like some 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.360 crazy I was going to say. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.480 Is there anybody on our team? Is there anybody that 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.200 could actually pull that off? Do you think that there was? 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.640 Who would it be that Michael Jordan dunk? Yeah, that's 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:24.320 a that's a tough one. Um you got she That's 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:28.240 a tough one. Okay, So yeah, I don't know any Yeah, 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.280 that's probably a good answer. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.120 Yeah, let me ask you this question. Chris Barnes is 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.720 our guest. You left u c l A undrafted, yet 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.600 you started in your rookie debut, says here. You were 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.200 the first undrafted rookie in Packers history to do that 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:48.240 since the nineteen seventy merger at inside linebackers, So what 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.800 did mel Kiper mess on you? What did all the 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:52.560 evaluators miss on you? 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.360 I truly think I'm a better professional up here in 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.280 the NFL than I was as a college player. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.479 I think the college. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.480 Grounds that you say was a great starting point for 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.640 me as far as kind of getting my some more 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.399 confidence in myself knowledge of the game a little bit, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.399 Especially my last couple of years, my junior senior year, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:09.760 I started to get a good feel for the game, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:11.960 but I don't think I was really truly ready yet. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.240 But when I got into the league, especially coming undrafted, 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.359 I knew I had no other choice but to go 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.520 make it happen. So for me, I kind of took 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.679 that step into my professionalism. I think having guys around me, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.760 true vets around me that have done it before kind 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.440 of helped me in that process as well, kind of 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.199 build some of that confidence, kind of build some of 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.159 that that knowledge for the game too as well. So 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.080 quickly that by the time Week one came, I was 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.320 able to make start make a few plays, and from 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.639 there and there just throughout the season just continue to 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.200 grow myself and take over the Green Dot, continue to 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.560 just build who I was as a player and now 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.160 to be year year five. Now, it's crazy coming to undrafted, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.879 but it's a blessing each and every day I get 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:50.680 a step on that field. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.360 Talk a little bit about the guys at Green Bay 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.960 or rookie year. Is there somebody that kind of took 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.840 you under his wing, a mentor did you have anybody 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.680 a player maybe? And if so, who was it? Yeah? 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.480 I mean I had a couple of guys over there. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.120 I would say Kenny Clark. He's a former UCLA guy 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.760 as well. Yeah, so he wasn't too far from my 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.520 locker in the locker room was in Green Bay, and 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.119 he was one of those guys that kind of just 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.560 told me, like, just keep doing what you're doing. To 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.560 know the playbook like the back of your hand. And 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.080 the guys that know the playbook the best are the 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.159 guys that are going to be out there and be 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.639 able to move faster and be able to just produce. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.880 And that's the biggest thing in the NFL. So him, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.240 prest Smith, really the whole defense in general. They all 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.560 came around and it really just showed love that my 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.720 first year, my rookie year, especially because it was COVID year, 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.960 it was a different year. In preseason. There's no preseason games. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.720 There was no I had no combine or nothing. So 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.400 for me, it was kind of a whole new territory. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.960 So for to have them kind of just settle the 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.040 water for me a little bit. Was was definitely at ease. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.000 And also came in with my boy Jordan Love, who 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.600 I grew up with him from when we was in 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.760 middle school, so I've known him for a while. So 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:55.240 for us to be able to come in together, we 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.480 was roommates and kind we would have had that same 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:02.000 rookie stretch levels a little bit, kind of uh, the 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.480 tiering them a little bit, was it? 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:04.240 It was good to have. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.080 So when Jordan Love was carving up the Cowboys in 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.600 the playoffs, were you like standing on your couch just 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:10.520 cheering for I was. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.840 I was there. I flew it. Yeah, that for our season. 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.199 So right of our season ended, we I flew out 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.399 there Dallas to go see him places I wanted to 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.000 be able to see him play. So that was a 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:20.920 good game to go to because he definitely put it 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:21.239 on him. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.199 So special teams has been a big part of what 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.440 you have done as well, So talk a little a 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.840 little bit about special teams. In general your thoughts. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.440 On I think it's huge, especially someone coming undrafted. That's 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.080 a big part of our game here in the NFL 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:36.919 is be able to produce on special teams and be 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.520 able to be a big part. And I feel like 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:41.919 for me, it's whatever my role is, whatever, whatever my 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:43.919 role is called to do for that game where this 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:48.080 kick off, koar, punt print return defense, you say fullback, 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.879 maybe shoot, I don't know. Yeah, whatever my role is 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.560 to be called, I want to be able to maximize 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.400 that and be my be my best. So I take 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:57.359 pride in special teams. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:57.560 Now. 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.440 I think it's a it's a big part of the game, 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.679 and there's there's changes now will kickoff, kickoff return, but 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.080 I think the game itself is still there, still violent, 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.200 is still a big part of the game where it 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.720 could be supposed to plays on kickoff return. Now, some 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.320 some good players get getting teams backed up on kickoff 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.000 by being being a blocker. So I'm gonna mess you 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:16.800 to see how this year goes. For sure, what's your 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.520 gut feel? Week one kickoff kickoff return? We kind of 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.359 get the sense a lot of teams are sitting on 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.120 some things. It's really vanilla, right, now, Yes, it is, Yeah, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.440 it is. I mean even throughout these joint practices, we're 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.480 trying to get a little fixed on some certain things. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.560 You just get a get a feel of it. But 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:34.960 you can tell them preseason teams aren't really trying to 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.480 expose too much. So I know when Week one comes, 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:39.760 there's gonna be a lot of twist and trap blocks. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.280 Probably it's gonna be a couple of things that pop 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.280 up that we haven't seen. But that's the name of 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.080 the game, and from there we'll be able to just 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.560 and be able to make some big plays ourselves. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.280 We talk a little bit about the inside linebacker room 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.920 right now and where you're playing the most weak side 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:54.440 and so can you play them both? 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.159 Yes, sir, I mean that's that's what we preach in 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:57.960 the room, is you got to be able to know both. 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.560 No matter where you're playing or where your mainot might be. 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:02.760 You got to know the both the back of your hand, 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.800 because you never know what might happen in the season 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.439 or in the game as well. So I think we 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.080 have a great room between Kaizer, White, mac Wilson, myself, Owen. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.560 I think we are all raising each other's talent levels 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.560 and energy levels in that room. Our knowledge is great 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.600 in that room as well, So to be to be 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.240 in his room, I think it's it is raising my 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.320 bar a little bit too as well. There's a lot 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:25.919 of guys in there, a lot of guy guys, so 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.359 a lot of violence, guy guys coming down ready to 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.040 hit the ball. I will say that. But I'm I'm 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:32.720 I'm happy to be happy to be in his room, 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:34.920 happy to be able to produce in his room as well. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.399 I mean, if mac Wilson goes to the edge and 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.080 some pass strushing situations, there's gonna be room for an 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.800 extra inside linebacker out there next to Kayzer, I would imagine, right. 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.159 Yeah, I mean I hope. So I know we'll have 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:47.640 a couple of different things that we could do with 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:49.040 with those guys in our in our room as well, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.520 even with Owen and Kayzer. So once season comes around, 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:53.880 like you say, there will be some things that people 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:55.960 haven't seen as well. So I mean it's interesting to 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:57.920 see who those things are. But like I said, whatever 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.240 my name is called, whatever my role might be, I'm 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:01.600 ready to ready to produce. 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.120 Here's my question, what does a fortified defensive line room 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.480 do for an inside linebacker? Because it's day and night 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:09.840 that d line from last. 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:11.840 Year, and it makes our job easier. Alaso's gonna make 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.200 a lot of plays and they are a big reason 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.240 for that. So you can tell in the first person 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:18.520 to get first preseason game, but even to the camp 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.960 that the defense is ready to go and they're ready 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:23.800 to hunt. They're very physical, building a wall, keeping double 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:25.280 teams off of us, so we're able to see the 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:27.080 running back and be able to make a certain reason 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.000 go shoot gaps. So for us, I'm excited. I will 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:31.399 say that for our room, we will have a lot 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.359 of production. Even for upfront. They're gonna do a lot 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.479 of things up front where you're gonna they're gonna make 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:36.520 themselves known for sure. 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.560 So I played ten years in the NFL quise, Okay, 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.280 so I can tell you right now my strength was 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.560 that I could generate more desperation than my opponents. I 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.200 could do that, right, And what do you think your 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:52.959 strengths are? I will say my strengths I believe are 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:53.240 to be. 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:55.800 I think my IQ for the game, I feel like 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.960 it's really high right, just kind of formation recognition, film 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.399 study allows me to kind of see certain things before 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:05.800 the plays he even snapped. I also feel like just 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.600 my overall I'm trying my overall motor to be one 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.520 of my strength right now. I feel like my prior 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.520 years I haven't been able to stay at that certain motor, 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.840 whereas from first quarter to fourth quarter it kind of varies. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.280 But right now, throughout camp and even in off season, 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:19.680 I feel like I've I've got my boy to a 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.280 certain points where I'm working on that pace to be 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.160 able to have that same speed, to have that same 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.800 motor throughout the whole the whole game. So I'll definite 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.480 say my IQ is one of those things that keep 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.760 me have been keeping me around for sure. 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.520 All Right, I gotta ask you, Darius Robinson, round one rookie, 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:35.959 give us your take so far? 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:37.199 Yeah, you can feel his presence. 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.120 I will say that he's one of those guys that's like, yeah, 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.040 you are a first rounder for a reason, So it's 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.439 nice to play behind him. His get off is crazy, 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.480 his strength is crazy. I think there's more. He fine 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.880 tunes his game within the scheme of learning the playbook, 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.280 which is I feel he's picking up very well. But 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.840 just once he learns those five those finite things, and 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.240 I know he'll pick up details from from Justin Jones 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.040 and those guys in his room as well. So once 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.080 this season kind of gets comfortable, or he gets comfortable 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.159 in his skin and who he is as a player, 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.040 he's going to be a monster for us. 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.439 Okay, what running back is the beast that blitz pick up? 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.960 And what running back runs the best. 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.280 Routes for the Cardinals? Yes, I will say the blizz 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.080 pick up has got to be James Cunnor. We wanna 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.159 get him a couple times in our practice, and uh, 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.159 he might have had all of us. I will say 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:24.400 he might have had all of us. 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:26.480 He used to be in the same d line room 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:28.960 with Aaron Donald at pitt before they converted him to 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:29.840 a running back. 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:30.919 Which I mean, what should it make us? 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.480 What makes sense for sure, because his strength is and 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.080 the way his hands are are crazy. But uh, yeah, 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.399 I will say the best routes you probably gotta give 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.000 it to. I mean, James up there too, but Mike Carter. 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.000 He's just a shifty guy that can get it in 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.040 the out of his cuts and he's a heck of 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:47.119 a talent two for us. 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.119 All right, So Chris is wrapping up when you go 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.320 against Green Bay this year Cardinals and Packers. You know, 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.280 are you a trash talker? You're gonna be yelling across 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.560 the line your guy, Jordan Love. How's that gonna work? 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:55.880 Yeah? 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.680 I mean I don't already say too much trash during 0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.560 the game, kind of keep it between the white lines 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.960 and talking my pads. But I might say a couple 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.639 of things before the game for the game, say a 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.960 couple things to more for more players I know over 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.280 there too that are still playing. And gotta say a 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.160 little treshot to my god Jay love too as well. 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.359 But it's there's no love between the lines than the 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:15.560 all four quarters after. 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.119 That will be all love again. So we'll see what 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.440 it comes. Week five. Glad you're here. I appreciate you. 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.439 Appreciate it. Yeah, glad to be here. We enjoyed it. 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.720 There you go, Chris Barnes. We continue with a big 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:33.560 red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert second down 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.359 and eight Carnalds of the Saints ten, trying thirteen to 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.119 seven to the year out of the gun throwed in 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.480 the near flat haff by Tony Jones Jr. Makes a 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.240 man miss of the five dives towards the pylons. Hen 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:49.960 he's in touchdown. Cardinals, Tony Jones Junior finishes the drive 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:54.520 with the catch and run into the end zone and 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.639 look at Claim tun and celebrating with all the offensive linemen, 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.600 daffing them up. Tuned in a great job scanning the 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.480 end zone and then realizing I got to hit my 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.040 check down. And Tony Jones Junior did the rest, feeding 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:12.000 the Saints defense to the pilot. So the Arizona Cardinals 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:13.919 have a quarterback question. 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:16.000 It's QB two. 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.800 You know, I've been accused the times of trying to 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.280 fan the flames of a quarterback controversy to get us 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.200 through training camp. Indeed, I could easily do it right now, 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.919 but I won't. All right, decorum will intervene and common sense. 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:34.560 But there is a competition going on for QB two. 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.359 Welcome back into the Big Red Rage, our all weather 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.040 edition here in Indianapolis. Joint practices in the books. The 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.200 second one water logged. But as the olderfro Holt said, 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.120 a lot of ups, some downs. We got a lot 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.240 out of this. Chris Barnes very positive, right, you're him 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.879 talking all about that. Appreciate his time, and so you 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.200 know it's as close as the regulars guys who will 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.719 never see the preseason we'll ever get to a regular 0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.679 season look in the month of August because they're not 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.960 playing in these preseason games. So boom, there you go. 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.639 But once again we come back to a big question 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.080 for Mania support and Jonathan Gannett QB two. You go ahead, 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.280 you size it up. Who is the clubhouse leader? Is 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.160 there one? And where do you think this is all tracking? 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.360 Yeah, Paul, you know, once again, I do believe that 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.119 Clayton Tune has the advantage right now. Now, this is 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.840 just me. Nobody has said a word to me about this. Okay. 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.480 I love Desmond Ridder, I love his game. I was 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:34.800 really excited when the Cardinals acquired Desmond Ridder. So I'm 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.840 looking at him right now and I'm thinking, Okay, I 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.520 think Clayton Tune has the advantage because of how he 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.080 played against the New Orleans Saints. Clayton Tune had a 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:50.800 very very strong game. Ridder not so much. And because 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.680 of that, I would say, if Clayton Tune goes out 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.600 there and starts, and I believe he's going to start 0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.000 the first half of this second game, this preseason game 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.640 coming up, and then Desmond Ridder will get to play 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.600 in the second half, just the way that it was. 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.359 But it was opposite, of course, it was Desmond Ridder 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.199 getting the start and then Clayton Tune playing in the 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.440 second half. I think if Clayton Tune goes out there 0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.280 and lights it up again like he kind of did 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:22.000 in the second half of that first game, I think 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.520 he's probably going to win that job Paul at that 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:29.360 point in time. Now, again I don't have any inside 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.920 information on that, but I think that Clayton Tune has 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.359 had a better training camp overall than Desmond Ridder. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.320 The contrast was striking from the first half where first 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.120 downs were really hard to come by, to right out 0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.560 of the gate first drive of the second half, he 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.800 just moved the Cardinals right down the field. Yeah, just 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.600 completion after completion, couple of chunk throws in there. He 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.320 made it look very easy. Those who do it best 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.840 make it look easy. He was very efficient. It just 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.400 there was a striking contrast. Now, you could argue that 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.280 Desnion Ritter had a second team offensive line going against 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:08.200 the ones for New Orleans. You're a good part of 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.000 the first quarter. That's a legit argument, correct, he had 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.280 a chunk throw down the sideline on the money to 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:17.720 Blake Whiteheart dropped, dropped. That's tough. That really impacted his 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.440 stats and that would have, you know, got the Cardinals 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.360 down into Saints' territory. So there were a few mitigating factors, no. 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.680 Doubt about it, Bully once again. But it's not just 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.920 the New Orleans Saints game. It's also training cap yep 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.880 in general. I think we've we've all been watching this 0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.400 and again Desmond Ritter and Clayton Tune are locked in 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.360 a battle for QB two right now. But also kind 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.000 of like today, just watching it today, go out there 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.680 and Desmond Ritter, he threw a pick during two minutes, 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.240 it's a two minute drill. They had a live situation 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.800 going out out there where they wanted to really go 0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.280 up tempo and Desmond Ritter was out there and he 0:29:55.880 --> 0:30:01.560 threw a pick and Clayton Tune literal on the next play. 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.680 Desmond at one play threw the pick and that was it, 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.959 and all of a sudden, they put Clayton Tune in 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.920 new possession. That's what it was. So they put him 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.120 in and Clayton Tune actually moved the ball in that 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.680 two minute drill. Again, it was one period, it was 0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.760 one drill, but it was a drill in which Clayton 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.640 Tune looked better than Desmond Ritter. 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.320 Here's Jonathan Gannon this week on how the two backup 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.080 quarterbacks played against the New Orleans Saints. 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.040 I thought did some good things. I mean extendison plays. 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:33.920 I know he ripped that. I mean the protection was 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.680 really good, but he ripped the third down to Zach 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.040 that ended up being explosive play. Some things that get 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:42.680 better at. Clayton came in, made some throws. The operation 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.160 was pretty clean, has some things he's got to clean 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.880 up and get better at. So like where that's at. 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.840 We'll see how that goes the next couple of days. 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.360 Make a decision who's going in when. I like the 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.640 plan laid out right now as we sit here today, 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.600 but depending on what happens these next two days, we 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.520 might adapt that. But they're both in a good spot 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:01.000 ready to go. 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.440 Clayton Tune looks like he's in year two of a system. 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.880 He looks like he's in year two of an NFL career. 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.280 Last year, the one game we got to see him 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:15.400 during the regular season, that was rough. Go for multiple reasons. One, 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.040 you're going against Cleveland. He was a fierce win down 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.320 on the field, but you had a fierce defense. You're 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.640 going against Miles Garrett, NFL Defensive Player of the Year, 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.040 leading the way. But I think more than anything, he 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:31.160 was laid in his decision making and seven times he 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.800 was sacked and a number of those were on the quarterback. 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.000 And Jonathan Ganna has meant Barton once during this training 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.960 camp that he's just quicker his decision makers, decision making, 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.400 He's quicker in his release. You know, the accuracy and 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.160 anticipation has always been there for Claytonton. He's just he 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.400 knows where he's going pre snap and what he told 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.960 the media right pre snap and post snap are now 0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:54.000 linking up in his mind. 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.680 Yeah, And that was really a tough assignment right there, PAULI, 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.600 when you think about it as well as you already 0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:03.040 said Miles Garrett, the Cleveland Browns, okay, one of the 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.320 best defenses, if not the best defense in terms of 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:10.320 getting after the quarterback. Very very tough assignment right there 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.320 for Clayton Tune in that one game that he was 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.680 out there playing. But having said that, it does look 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.600 like he has taken that next step, and you got 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.400 Desmond Ridder, a guy once again who I'm not ruling 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.400 out because if he goes out and plays well here 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:29.000 it is game two. He plays well in Indianapolis, of course, 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.320 that could change everything going into week three. I just 0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:36.480 have this feeling if he does struggle again, that you 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:38.880 might want to go ahead and declare trying to give 0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.560 Clayton Tune a little bit of confidence, maybe saying, hey, 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.560 if Clayton Tune goes out and plays great against the Colts, 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.280 Desmond Ridder might struggle again, you might want to go 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.880 ahead and just declare, hey, he's going to be our guy. 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.280 He's going to be our backup going into it. We 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.440 don't know how many quarterbacks we're going to keep. We 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:02.000 don't know that yet. I'm sure there's a possibility they 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:06.920 could only keep two, maybe a third on the practice 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:11.240 squad because you want that extra arm in camp. But 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.640 we'll have to wait and see how it's all gonna 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.840 shake out. It's a long way from a decided who's 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:17.840 QB two. 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.160 So the media asked Clayton Tune, all right, how do 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.280 you think you played against the New Orleans Saints. Yeah, 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.600 I definitely felt more comfortable. I felt like I was. 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.640 Seeing the defense and confident in the game plan. 0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.760 So you know, I felt like I was seeing it 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.120 well and playing on time. Here's the thing, They're only 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:38.280 keeping two quarterbacks, and I'd lean towards that just based 0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.200 on the fact you have a loaded roster, much more competitive, 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.520 much more talented than a year ago. Great observation, you're 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.040 gonna want that spot, so okay, and now all of 0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:51.120 a sudden, let's say that you get further confirmation on 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.000 what we already seen. Clayton Tuon is going to be 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.200 quarterback two. And that's your takeaway after Saturday night against 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.840 the Colts preseason game number two. I threw this out 0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.560 there earlier. Once again, I'm not sure trying to stir 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.800 it up. I'm just openly wondering, thinking out loud, does 0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.600 Mania support try and find a fit for Desmond Ridder 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:10.680 elsewhere just because he might have actual trade value since 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.920 he has over a dozen starts under his belt the 0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:14.760 last two years for the Atlanta Falcons. 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.520 Yes, no, you're right on, at Polly. I mean, that's 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.360 exactly what I see as well. They're listen. You always 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.359 have to remember the fact that the Cardinals gave up 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.759 something to get Desmond Ridder. Okay, Clayton soon they went 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.000 ahead and drafted him. Now you know, I mean that's 0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.480 something near and dear to their heart as well, but 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.480 they drafted them. You want ahead and gave something up 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.080 Rondel Moore to actually get Desmond Ridder here. So because 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.560 of that, Polly, you're right on this thing. And it 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:47.399 may be a situation where if Clayton soon goes out 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.000 in that second preseason game, you may want to go 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.400 ahead and research what is going on out there because 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.600 there would be people that would want to want to 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.480 make a move, maybe Desmond Ritter, if in fact they 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.880 knew they had two weeks before the season to do it. 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.800 Look at the Vikings with JJ McCarthy. Look at the Rams, 0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.480 Matthew Staffords little banged up. Guess what, Jimmy g can't 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.400 play the first two games. He suspended Stetson Bennett just 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:20.719 threw four interceptions in a preseason game, just saying there 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.920 might be takers and those interested. He's a quarterback man, 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.960 so we'll see. Hey learn more about Cardinal season tickets, 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.600 single game tickets, premium seating, group tickets, the all new 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:35.120 luxury field seating experiences today twenty twenty four. Home opponents 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.280 include the Bears, the Chargers of Patriots, the Jets, Alliance Commanders, 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.560 and the course of the division. For all that and 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.280 all the ticket information, go to Easycardinals dot com slash tickets. 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.680 All right, these rookies from last year have definitely made 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.759 a jump, including Oen Papo. We're going to talk about him, 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.040 other guys who are flashing on defense. It is the 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.400 big red Rage from Indianapolis, all presented by santan forward 0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:03.440 in Gilbert third down at twelve car with time he's 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.200 gonna check down into the flat and nothing doing. Oh 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.399 and Papo runs down the running back along the line 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.360 of scrimmage, three and out for the Saints offense and 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.680 the athletic inside linebacker making the play in space. When 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.239 I realized Owen Papo played sixteen games as a rookie 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.640 last year, his Twitter handle at the freak and he 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.799 showed that ability there. Well, if I mentioned this, there's 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.279 an old saying in the war room. When you get 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.719 into rounds five, six, and seven, win into doubt. Take 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:34.600 the freak. Take someone with that athletic upside. Take someone 0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:38.000 who would have the measureables and the ability to compete 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.520 in the NFL. But maybe there's a drawbacker he needs 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.839 further seasoning or what have you. So when you're in 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.719 round five and you see this year Xavier Thomas is 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.200 on the board, for example, and he has elite speed 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.760 off the edge, boom, Wait a minute, it's worth taking 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.120 a shot. Last year, Owen Papo, the guy whose twitter 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.600 and will again is at the freak and were really 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:04.319 speedy guy and ultra strong, and but maybe it was 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.440 just a little raw coming out. And now all of 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.040 a sudden, under the tutelage of a Kai Zerra White 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.400 and Chris Barnes we heard from earlier, Look what you 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.640 might have in year two, Paulli. 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.080 There's also an old saying that says, take the football player, 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.840 not the freak. All right, take the football player, not 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.720 the freak. I'm just say there's two school of thoughts 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:29.799 on that one, right there. Man, Your thoughts on what 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.600 you're seeing right now, though, Paully, your thoughts on what's 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.480 happened in some numbers, Maybe that comes to mind to you. 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.919 Well, I think of the entire draft class in year two, 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:45.319 Garris Johnson Junior is now your franchise left tackle, and 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.680 he looked good against the likes of DeForest Buckner and 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.680 Leato Alatu. In these joint practices, you got Michael Wilson, 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.239 you have Garrett Williams, big hawks, big components on both 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.239 sides of the ball. Right, So think of all the 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.840 guys who have taken Clayton tune looked so much better 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.279 in year two. Think of the guys last year and 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.719 now Owen Papos, Dante Stills, why doing up last week? 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.040 Think of the guys last year who have taken that 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.600 big leap into year two and the return on investment 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.400 Manias Safford is getting from that initial draft class. 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.680 Yeah, PAULI, I'm really encouraged what I'm seeing with Paris 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.279 Johnson Jr. I really am in the job that he 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.600 has been doing here. That's a number that has grabbed 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:30.040 my attention. Also, Darius Robinson, I'm so sorry, but you 0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.279 you this guy is popping. There's no doubt about it. 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.279 I saw the bull rush against Quentin Nelson as well. Now, 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.160 again it's one bull rush in a one on one, 0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.600 but we've seen Darius Robinson do some other things so 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.560 far in training camp. The New Orlands Saints game, the 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.440 first preseason game. How well he played. He came with 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:58.840 a arm over swim after jacking Caesar Louise, the right guard, 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.279 a guy who was a first round pick, a guy 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.480 who was a starter for the New Orleans Saints. Jacking 0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.920 him and then swimming the move was incredible. Now the 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.320 ball came out, it was battered into the air, of course, 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:15.600 but what Darius Robinson has flashed is really really impressive 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.400 in that game and in training camp, and he continues 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:20.600 to grab the eye. 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.879 I'm getting to the point now or I'm not even 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.759 listening to what guys are saying. I'm just observing the 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.440 reaction when you say the name Darius Robinson. Did you 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.960 hear Chris Barnes earlier in the show, we brought up 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:35.360 Darius Robinson. Oh yeah, right, just his reaction gamer And 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.680 so okay, so you have that. Now, let's get back 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.760 to on Papo for a minute, because he has really 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.239 emerged over the course of this camp. And here's what 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.960 he had to say just about his objective and how 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.280 he wants to make an impression. 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.319 Early at the end of last season, you know, jayj 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.239 had to meet on Otto Rooki's and he's just really 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.640 talked about how important it is that jumped from year 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.480 one year two. You know, so this whole offseason, just 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.040 keep my head down, put in a lot of work, 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.600 and de Mangos just making ampression early. So he's just 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.680 gonna keep on building everything I've done so far. 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.520 It's just me thinking out out loud here again. But 0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:08.000 if mac Wilson Senior goes to the edge, especially on 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.520 third down, Owen Papo comes in, has the speed to 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.120 cover backs and tight ends, and then all of a sudden, 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.640 mac Wilson Senior is one of those edge rushers and 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.880 it's Kaisier and Owen Papo in those situations. 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:22.480 Yeah, no, it's it's a possibility, Paul. I think it 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.080 would have to be based on the down in distance, 0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.240 as you said, is a third no obvious pass situation 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.719 where you're gonna take mac Wilson and put him up 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.440 there on the edge. That's a possibility. But maybe you're 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.680 gonna bring a dB in somebody, a dB you might 0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.120 actually bring in there, depending on the personnel group that's 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.560 out on the field. Maybe it's eleven personnel, maybe it's 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:47.520 den It really it depends on the situation. I think 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.400 who the personnel might be, but I will tell you 0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.520 right now, Xavier Thomas is a guy that you have 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:58.239 noticed and mentioned to me a couple of times, and 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.480 I'm just watching him develop as well. He got the sack, 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.080 of course in the Saints game, a couple of other 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:08.480 nice pass rush moves coming from Xavier Thomas in that game. 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:13.040 He's done the same thing here. Xavier Thomas has has 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.120 flashed again. At least in my way of thinking. I 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:21.520 think this young guy's got a chance. Something's happening with him, Paul, 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:25.680 I don't know what it is, but something is definitely 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.239 happening with fifty four. 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.839 When you see him go against the Colts starting right 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.120 tackle Braden Smith and he had his way in a 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.200 couple of reps, you realize, Okay, this isn't just a 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.360 byproduct of him going against backups and Cardinals camp that 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:42.520 he is legit. Love to hear what Jonathan Gannon thinks 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.120 after this second preseason game. 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:48.440 And the other player too, LJ. Collier. This is a 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:52.680 guy that we have talked about disruptive. He is disruptive. 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.200 That is great, and that's it. That's exactly what they 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.799 would want him to be. Is that three technique you 0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.800 could put in there who would be disruptive. The most 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:06.759 destructive force in the universe is a disruptive three technique 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.440 and Aaron Donald knows all about that. And LJ. Collier 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.680 just because he's not a three hundred and thirty pounder, 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:18.320 he's not that big guy. He's built like Aaron Donald. Again, 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.600 I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald. I'm just saying his build, 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.040 his frame very similar. 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.160 And a former first round pick of Seattle. 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:26.480 Yeah. 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.759 Two other guys the Cardinals grabbed off the scrap heat 0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.279 at the end of camp last year. Roy Lopez has 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:35.160 been a standout and Starling Thomas. Here's Starling Thomas on 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.560 what he did this offseason to make his own jump. 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.680 I just feel like the bastiments I put into myself 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.880 and the overall game and the sacrifice that I made 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:44.759 this offseason. 0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:45.719 I didn't go home. 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.800 I actually stay here and kind of work with Buddha 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.480 and jto off season and just being around those guys 0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:55.040 and they save you around good people and you belcome 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.399 good yourself. So being around two pro bo type players, man, 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.960 I'm trying to become on myself. So just hanging out 0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:02.640 with those guys has elevated me a lot. 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.560 Coming into camp. It was arguably the biggest question. Who 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.120 was going to start on the other side of Sean 0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.040 Murphy bunting. Now, when you're going with only two corners, 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.719 it could be Garret Williams. But for the most part, 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.840 you're playing three cornerbacks and you're gonna play that Slaughter 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:18.960 Nickel corner. So who's outside and right now, if you're 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.360 gonna line up and play, it would be Starling Thomas, 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.120 especially since Max Melton has been nicked up a little bit. 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:26.800 Man, he looks really, really good too. I love the 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:30.400 way Startling Thomas is competing, No doubt about that. Pully. 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.320 Let me ask you this, the number three wide receiver, 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.080 Who is your number three wide receiver on the team 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:38.080 right now? 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.560 Well, I would definitely go Greg Dorsch, but he would 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.120 be your slot receiver if you're going an outside receiver. 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.480 I thought, who had a good practice today? Zay Jones Jones. 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.760 I thought he had two good practices against the Colts. 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.359 Yeah, Zay Jones has flashed. There's no doubt about that. 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.160 Polly a nice dig route, ran an awesome dig route, 0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.279 and Clayton tune in that two minute drill actually hit 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:03.480 him good throw by Clayton Tune in really bad weather 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:08.359 as well right now. But Greg Dorch is he's on 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.399 a mission right now. He is eleven personnel. You're gonna 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.600 have Michael Wilson, I think, with Marvin Harrison junior of course, 0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:19.040 and then Greg Dortch could be that third guy. Say 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:23.000 Jones might be into that mix as well, but Greg 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:27.560 Dortch in terms of running routes, he's smoking dudes right now. 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:32.719 The fifth receiver spot is something to watch against the 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.000 Colton cerinnat Xavier Weaver, the undrafted rookie on Colorado, and 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:39.200 Dan Shasena, who we both learned in the last twenty 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.960 four hours might be the fastest guy in the team. 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:42.600 Four three to two. 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.080 I did not know that he ran track at Penn State, 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.080 and so his performance against the Saints a preseason game 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.239 number one is certainly not a fluke. He's been doing 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.680 it on the practice field with regularity. Hey, Cardinals student 0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:00.680 passed alows college students to get info on Cardinals internships, discounts, 0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.439 and more. Go to Ezycardinals dot com Slash Student Past 0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:07.600 Special Thanks Chris Barnes. Cardinals inside linebacker Jim al Mahondro, 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:12.040 Cody Fincher, Matt Lazarus, Ron Wolfley, I'll Paul KELBC wolf 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.239 go get a shower and dry off. It was a 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.000 great joint practice. The Big Red Rage presented by santan 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:19.200 Ford in Gilbert Jaw. 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.480 You've been listening to The Big Red Rage presented by 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.960 santan Ford and Gilbert right on the price, right on 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.640 the corner of the Santan two to two freeway and 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:35.440 valves Stay. The Rage is brought to you by Arizona 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:40.319 Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.880 We're gonna see a little big Red Rage football right here. 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.800 This has been an exclusive presentation of the Arizona Cardinals 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:48.560 Football Club.