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Speaker 3: Why don't we start with today's forecast here in the

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Speaker 3: Hoosier State, Ron Wolfley, as delivered by Cardinals' resident meteorologist

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Speaker 3: Trey mcplay on the sideline. Two words he shouted out

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Speaker 3: when we were over there, football weather. Yes, this is

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Speaker 3: what Drey McBride said, And sure enough, we are bringing

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Speaker 3: We are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic here, Ron Wolfley there

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Speaker 1: You know what, PAULI, I don't think it just rained.

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Speaker 3: Now, Ron Woofley, as a Buffalo Native, Cardinals are tracking

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Speaker 3: It is exactly is there a chance of weather, chance

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Speaker 1: New York, Yeah, Paul, you could have a beautiful day,

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Speaker 3: So maybe, just maybe it might prove beneficial. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: Really did? Marvin Harrison Junior has definitely popped. He popped

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Speaker 3: You can already see the chemistry. Yeah, they're already in sync.

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Speaker 1: Well we're doing.

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Speaker 6: We're just worried about and continue to build a relationship.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see Marvin Harrison Senior out there. Hall

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Speaker 1: Man, where do you begin when you think about this?

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Speaker 1: I think of a kid, Marvin Harrison Junior and the

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's Mormon Arison Junior having a conversation. I'm

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Speaker 1: No, That's what I'm talking about. It just you know,

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Speaker 1: You saw Trey McBride really flash in that as well,

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Speaker 3: side note of Marvin Rrison Junior. He's gonna walk into

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Speaker 1: Definitely?

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Speaker 3: You go and look, he's talked about it. We talked

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Speaker 3: He still runs those precise routes, but in his size

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Speaker 1: Into Chris Barnes and then man Chris Barnes, looking ladies

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Speaker 3: You know what I hear there, Ron Wolfley, what's up, Baul?

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Speaker 3: I hear another defensive candidate for your full back clock.

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Speaker 3: Last year was Jesse Luketta. This year, may I present

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Speaker 3: Chris Barnes, Cardinals inside linebacker, the dude who showed off

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Speaker 3: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert all right, So how's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean the fans make it

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Speaker 7: I truly think I'm a better professional up here in

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Speaker 7: is still a big part of the game where it

436
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Speaker 7: could be supposed to plays on kickoff return. Now, some

437
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Speaker 7: some good players get getting teams backed up on kickoff

438
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Speaker 7: by being being a blocker. So I'm gonna mess you

439
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Speaker 7: to see how this year goes. For sure, what's your

440
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Speaker 7: gut feel? Week one kickoff kickoff return? We kind of

441
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Speaker 7: get the sense a lot of teams are sitting on

442
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Speaker 7: some things. It's really vanilla, right, now, Yes, it is, Yeah,

443
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Speaker 7: it is. I mean even throughout these joint practices, we're

444
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Speaker 7: trying to get a little fixed on some certain things.

445
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Speaker 7: You just get a get a feel of it. But

446
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Speaker 7: you can tell them preseason teams aren't really trying to

447
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Speaker 7: expose too much. So I know when Week one comes,

448
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Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot of twist and trap blocks.

449
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Speaker 7: Probably it's gonna be a couple of things that pop

450
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Speaker 7: up that we haven't seen. But that's the name of

451
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Speaker 7: the game, and from there we'll be able to just

452
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Speaker 7: and be able to make some big plays ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We talk a little bit about the inside linebacker room

454
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Speaker 1: right now and where you're playing the most weak side

455
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Speaker 1: and so can you play them both?

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I mean that's that's what we preach in

457
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Speaker 7: the room, is you got to be able to know both.

458
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Speaker 7: No matter where you're playing or where your mainot might be.

459
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Speaker 7: You got to know the both the back of your hand,

460
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Speaker 7: because you never know what might happen in the season

461
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Speaker 7: or in the game as well. So I think we

462
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Speaker 7: have a great room between Kaizer, White, mac Wilson, myself, Owen.

463
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Speaker 7: I think we are all raising each other's talent levels

464
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Speaker 7: and energy levels in that room. Our knowledge is great

465
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Speaker 7: in that room as well, So to be to be

466
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Speaker 7: in his room, I think it's it is raising my

467
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Speaker 7: bar a little bit too as well. There's a lot

468
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Speaker 7: of guys in there, a lot of guy guys, so

469
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Speaker 7: a lot of violence, guy guys coming down ready to

470
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Speaker 7: hit the ball. I will say that. But I'm I'm

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Speaker 7: I'm happy to be happy to be in his room,

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Speaker 7: happy to be able to produce in his room as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if mac Wilson goes to the edge and

474
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Speaker 3: some pass strushing situations, there's gonna be room for an

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Speaker 3: extra inside linebacker out there next to Kayzer, I would imagine, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I hope. So I know we'll have

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Speaker 7: a couple of different things that we could do with

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Speaker 7: with those guys in our in our room as well,

479
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Speaker 7: even with Owen and Kayzer. So once season comes around,

480
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Speaker 7: like you say, there will be some things that people

481
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Speaker 7: haven't seen as well. So I mean it's interesting to

482
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Speaker 7: see who those things are. But like I said, whatever

483
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Speaker 7: my name is called, whatever my role might be, I'm

484
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Speaker 7: ready to ready to produce.

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Speaker 3: Here's my question, what does a fortified defensive line room

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Speaker 3: do for an inside linebacker? Because it's day and night

487
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Speaker 3: that d line from last.

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Speaker 7: Year, and it makes our job easier. Alaso's gonna make

489
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Speaker 7: a lot of plays and they are a big reason

490
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Speaker 7: for that. So you can tell in the first person

491
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Speaker 7: to get first preseason game, but even to the camp

492
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Speaker 7: that the defense is ready to go and they're ready

493
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Speaker 7: to hunt. They're very physical, building a wall, keeping double

494
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Speaker 7: teams off of us, so we're able to see the

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Speaker 7: running back and be able to make a certain reason

496
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Speaker 7: go shoot gaps. So for us, I'm excited. I will

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Speaker 7: say that for our room, we will have a lot

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Speaker 7: of production. Even for upfront. They're gonna do a lot

499
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Speaker 7: of things up front where you're gonna they're gonna make

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Speaker 7: themselves known for sure.

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Speaker 1: So I played ten years in the NFL quise, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I can tell you right now my strength was

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Speaker 1: that I could generate more desperation than my opponents. I

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Speaker 1: could do that, right, And what do you think your

505
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Speaker 1: strengths are? I will say my strengths I believe are

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 7: I think my IQ for the game, I feel like

508
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Speaker 7: it's really high right, just kind of formation recognition, film

509
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Speaker 7: study allows me to kind of see certain things before

510
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Speaker 7: the plays he even snapped. I also feel like just

511
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Speaker 7: my overall I'm trying my overall motor to be one

512
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Speaker 7: of my strength right now. I feel like my prior

513
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Speaker 7: years I haven't been able to stay at that certain motor,

514
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Speaker 7: whereas from first quarter to fourth quarter it kind of varies.

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Speaker 7: But right now, throughout camp and even in off season,

516
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Speaker 7: I feel like I've I've got my boy to a

517
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Speaker 7: certain points where I'm working on that pace to be

518
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Speaker 7: able to have that same speed, to have that same

519
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Speaker 7: motor throughout the whole the whole game. So I'll definite

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Speaker 7: say my IQ is one of those things that keep

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Speaker 7: me have been keeping me around for sure.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I gotta ask you, Darius Robinson, round one rookie,

523
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Speaker 3: give us your take so far?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel his presence.

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Speaker 7: I will say that he's one of those guys that's like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: you are a first rounder for a reason, So it's

527
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Speaker 7: nice to play behind him. His get off is crazy,

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Speaker 7: his strength is crazy. I think there's more. He fine

529
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Speaker 7: tunes his game within the scheme of learning the playbook,

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Speaker 7: which is I feel he's picking up very well. But

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Speaker 7: just once he learns those five those finite things, and

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Speaker 7: I know he'll pick up details from from Justin Jones

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Speaker 7: and those guys in his room as well. So once

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Speaker 7: this season kind of gets comfortable, or he gets comfortable

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Speaker 7: in his skin and who he is as a player,

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Speaker 7: he's going to be a monster for us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what running back is the beast that blitz pick up?

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Speaker 1: And what running back runs the best.

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Speaker 7: Routes for the Cardinals? Yes, I will say the blizz

540
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Speaker 7: pick up has got to be James Cunnor. We wanna

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Speaker 7: get him a couple times in our practice, and uh,

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Speaker 7: he might have had all of us. I will say

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Speaker 7: he might have had all of us.

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Speaker 3: He used to be in the same d line room

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Speaker 3: with Aaron Donald at pitt before they converted him to

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Speaker 3: a running back.

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Speaker 1: Which I mean, what should it make us?

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Speaker 7: What makes sense for sure, because his strength is and

549
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Speaker 7: the way his hands are are crazy. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I will say the best routes you probably gotta give

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Speaker 7: it to. I mean, James up there too, but Mike Carter.

552
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Speaker 7: He's just a shifty guy that can get it in

553
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Speaker 7: the out of his cuts and he's a heck of

554
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Speaker 7: a talent two for us.

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Speaker 3: All right, So Chris is wrapping up when you go

556
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Speaker 3: against Green Bay this year Cardinals and Packers. You know,

557
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Speaker 3: are you a trash talker? You're gonna be yelling across

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Speaker 3: the line your guy, Jordan Love. How's that gonna work?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean I don't already say too much trash during

561
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Speaker 7: the game, kind of keep it between the white lines

562
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Speaker 7: and talking my pads. But I might say a couple

563
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Speaker 7: of things before the game for the game, say a

564
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Speaker 7: couple things to more for more players I know over

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Speaker 7: there too that are still playing. And gotta say a

566
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Speaker 7: little treshot to my god Jay love too as well.

567
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Speaker 7: But it's there's no love between the lines than the

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Speaker 7: all four quarters after.

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Speaker 1: That will be all love again. So we'll see what

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Speaker 1: it comes. Week five. Glad you're here. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Yeah, glad to be here. We enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Chris Barnes. We continue with a big

573
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Speaker 3: red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert second down

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Speaker 3: and eight Carnalds of the Saints ten, trying thirteen to

575
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Speaker 3: seven to the year out of the gun throwed in

576
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Speaker 3: the near flat haff by Tony Jones Jr. Makes a

577
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Speaker 3: man miss of the five dives towards the pylons. Hen

578
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Speaker 3: he's in touchdown. Cardinals, Tony Jones Junior finishes the drive

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Speaker 3: with the catch and run into the end zone and

580
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Speaker 3: look at Claim tun and celebrating with all the offensive linemen,

581
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Speaker 3: daffing them up. Tuned in a great job scanning the

582
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Speaker 3: end zone and then realizing I got to hit my

583
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Speaker 3: check down. And Tony Jones Junior did the rest, feeding

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Speaker 3: the Saints defense to the pilot. So the Arizona Cardinals

585
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Speaker 3: have a quarterback question.

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Speaker 1: It's QB two.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been accused the times of trying to

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Speaker 3: fan the flames of a quarterback controversy to get us

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Speaker 3: through training camp. Indeed, I could easily do it right now,

590
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Speaker 3: but I won't. All right, decorum will intervene and common sense.

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Speaker 3: But there is a competition going on for QB two.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Big Red Rage, our all weather

593
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Speaker 3: edition here in Indianapolis. Joint practices in the books. The

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Speaker 3: second one water logged. But as the olderfro Holt said,

595
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Speaker 3: a lot of ups, some downs. We got a lot

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Speaker 3: out of this. Chris Barnes very positive, right, you're him

597
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Speaker 3: talking all about that. Appreciate his time, and so you

598
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Speaker 3: know it's as close as the regulars guys who will

599
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Speaker 3: never see the preseason we'll ever get to a regular

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Speaker 3: season look in the month of August because they're not

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Speaker 3: playing in these preseason games. So boom, there you go.

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Speaker 3: But once again we come back to a big question

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Speaker 3: for Mania support and Jonathan Gannett QB two. You go ahead,

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Speaker 3: you size it up. Who is the clubhouse leader? Is

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Speaker 3: there one? And where do you think this is all tracking?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, you know, once again, I do believe that

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Speaker 1: Clayton Tune has the advantage right now. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: just me. Nobody has said a word to me about this. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I love Desmond Ridder, I love his game. I was

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Speaker 1: really excited when the Cardinals acquired Desmond Ridder. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at him right now and I'm thinking, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: think Clayton Tune has the advantage because of how he

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Speaker 1: played against the New Orleans Saints. Clayton Tune had a

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Speaker 1: very very strong game. Ridder not so much. And because

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Speaker 1: of that, I would say, if Clayton Tune goes out

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Speaker 1: there and starts, and I believe he's going to start

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Speaker 1: the first half of this second game, this preseason game

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Speaker 1: coming up, and then Desmond Ridder will get to play

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Speaker 1: in the second half, just the way that it was.

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Speaker 1: But it was opposite, of course, it was Desmond Ridder

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Speaker 1: getting the start and then Clayton Tune playing in the

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Speaker 1: second half. I think if Clayton Tune goes out there

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Speaker 1: and lights it up again like he kind of did

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Speaker 1: in the second half of that first game, I think

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Speaker 1: he's probably going to win that job Paul at that

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Speaker 1: point in time. Now, again I don't have any inside

627
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Speaker 1: information on that, but I think that Clayton Tune has

628
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Speaker 1: had a better training camp overall than Desmond Ridder.

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Speaker 3: The contrast was striking from the first half where first

630
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Speaker 3: downs were really hard to come by, to right out

631
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Speaker 3: of the gate first drive of the second half, he

632
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Speaker 3: just moved the Cardinals right down the field. Yeah, just

633
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Speaker 3: completion after completion, couple of chunk throws in there. He

634
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Speaker 3: made it look very easy. Those who do it best

635
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Speaker 3: make it look easy. He was very efficient. It just

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Speaker 3: there was a striking contrast. Now, you could argue that

637
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Speaker 3: Desnion Ritter had a second team offensive line going against

638
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Speaker 3: the ones for New Orleans. You're a good part of

639
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Speaker 3: the first quarter. That's a legit argument, correct, he had

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Speaker 3: a chunk throw down the sideline on the money to

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Speaker 3: Blake Whiteheart dropped, dropped. That's tough. That really impacted his

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Speaker 3: stats and that would have, you know, got the Cardinals

643
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Speaker 3: down into Saints' territory. So there were a few mitigating factors, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt about it, Bully once again. But it's not just

645
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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints game. It's also training cap yep

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Speaker 1: in general. I think we've we've all been watching this

647
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Speaker 1: and again Desmond Ritter and Clayton Tune are locked in

648
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Speaker 1: a battle for QB two right now. But also kind

649
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Speaker 1: of like today, just watching it today, go out there

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Speaker 1: and Desmond Ritter, he threw a pick during two minutes,

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Speaker 1: it's a two minute drill. They had a live situation

652
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Speaker 1: going out out there where they wanted to really go

653
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Speaker 1: up tempo and Desmond Ritter was out there and he

654
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Speaker 1: threw a pick and Clayton Tune literal on the next play.

655
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Speaker 1: Desmond at one play threw the pick and that was it,

656
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they put Clayton Tune in

657
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Speaker 1: new possession. That's what it was. So they put him

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Speaker 1: in and Clayton Tune actually moved the ball in that

659
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Speaker 1: two minute drill. Again, it was one period, it was

660
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Speaker 1: one drill, but it was a drill in which Clayton

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Speaker 1: Tune looked better than Desmond Ritter.

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Speaker 3: Here's Jonathan Gannon this week on how the two backup

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks played against the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 4: I thought did some good things. I mean extendison plays.

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Speaker 4: I know he ripped that. I mean the protection was

666
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Speaker 4: really good, but he ripped the third down to Zach

667
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Speaker 4: that ended up being explosive play. Some things that get

668
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Speaker 4: better at. Clayton came in, made some throws. The operation

669
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Speaker 4: was pretty clean, has some things he's got to clean

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Speaker 4: up and get better at. So like where that's at.

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Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes the next couple of days.

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Speaker 4: Make a decision who's going in when. I like the

673
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Speaker 4: plan laid out right now as we sit here today,

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Speaker 4: but depending on what happens these next two days, we

675
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Speaker 4: might adapt that. But they're both in a good spot

676
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Speaker 4: ready to go.

677
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Speaker 3: Clayton Tune looks like he's in year two of a system.

678
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Speaker 3: He looks like he's in year two of an NFL career.

679
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Speaker 3: Last year, the one game we got to see him

680
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Speaker 3: during the regular season, that was rough. Go for multiple reasons. One,

681
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Speaker 3: you're going against Cleveland. He was a fierce win down

682
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Speaker 3: on the field, but you had a fierce defense. You're

683
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Speaker 3: going against Miles Garrett, NFL Defensive Player of the Year,

684
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Speaker 3: leading the way. But I think more than anything, he

685
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Speaker 3: was laid in his decision making and seven times he

686
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Speaker 3: was sacked and a number of those were on the quarterback.

687
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Speaker 3: And Jonathan Ganna has meant Barton once during this training

688
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Speaker 3: camp that he's just quicker his decision makers, decision making,

689
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Speaker 3: He's quicker in his release. You know, the accuracy and

690
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: anticipation has always been there for Claytonton. He's just he

691
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: knows where he's going pre snap and what he told

692
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Speaker 3: the media right pre snap and post snap are now

693
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Speaker 3: linking up in his mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was really a tough assignment right there, PAULI,

695
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Speaker 1: when you think about it as well as you already

696
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Speaker 1: said Miles Garrett, the Cleveland Browns, okay, one of the

697
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Speaker 1: best defenses, if not the best defense in terms of

698
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Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. Very very tough assignment right there

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Speaker 1: for Clayton Tune in that one game that he was

700
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Speaker 1: out there playing. But having said that, it does look

701
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Speaker 1: like he has taken that next step, and you got

702
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Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder, a guy once again who I'm not ruling

703
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Speaker 1: out because if he goes out and plays well here

704
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Speaker 1: it is game two. He plays well in Indianapolis, of course,

705
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Speaker 1: that could change everything going into week three. I just

706
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Speaker 1: have this feeling if he does struggle again, that you

707
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Speaker 1: might want to go ahead and declare trying to give

708
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Speaker 1: Clayton Tune a little bit of confidence, maybe saying, hey,

709
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Speaker 1: if Clayton Tune goes out and plays great against the Colts,

710
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Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder might struggle again, you might want to go

711
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Speaker 1: ahead and just declare, hey, he's going to be our guy.

712
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Speaker 1: He's going to be our backup going into it. We

713
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Speaker 1: don't know how many quarterbacks we're going to keep. We

714
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Speaker 1: don't know that yet. I'm sure there's a possibility they

715
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Speaker 1: could only keep two, maybe a third on the practice

716
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Speaker 1: squad because you want that extra arm in camp. But

717
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Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see how it's all gonna

718
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Speaker 1: shake out. It's a long way from a decided who's

719
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Speaker 1: QB two.

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Speaker 3: So the media asked Clayton Tune, all right, how do

721
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Speaker 3: you think you played against the New Orleans Saints. Yeah,

722
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Speaker 3: I definitely felt more comfortable. I felt like I was.

723
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Speaker 1: Seeing the defense and confident in the game plan.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I felt like I was seeing it

725
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Speaker 3: well and playing on time. Here's the thing, They're only

726
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Speaker 3: keeping two quarterbacks, and I'd lean towards that just based

727
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Speaker 3: on the fact you have a loaded roster, much more competitive,

728
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Speaker 3: much more talented than a year ago. Great observation, you're

729
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: gonna want that spot, so okay, and now all of

730
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Speaker 3: a sudden, let's say that you get further confirmation on

731
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Speaker 3: what we already seen. Clayton Tuon is going to be

732
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Speaker 3: quarterback two. And that's your takeaway after Saturday night against

733
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Speaker 3: the Colts preseason game number two. I threw this out

734
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Speaker 3: there earlier. Once again, I'm not sure trying to stir

735
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Speaker 3: it up. I'm just openly wondering, thinking out loud, does

736
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Speaker 3: Mania support try and find a fit for Desmond Ridder

737
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Speaker 3: elsewhere just because he might have actual trade value since

738
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Speaker 3: he has over a dozen starts under his belt the

739
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Speaker 3: last two years for the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, you're right on, at Polly. I mean, that's

741
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Speaker 1: exactly what I see as well. They're listen. You always

742
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Speaker 1: have to remember the fact that the Cardinals gave up

743
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Speaker 1: something to get Desmond Ridder. Okay, Clayton soon they went

744
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Speaker 1: ahead and drafted him. Now you know, I mean that's

745
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Speaker 1: something near and dear to their heart as well, but

746
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Speaker 1: they drafted them. You want ahead and gave something up

747
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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore to actually get Desmond Ridder here. So because

748
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Speaker 1: of that, Polly, you're right on this thing. And it

749
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Speaker 1: may be a situation where if Clayton soon goes out

750
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Speaker 1: in that second preseason game, you may want to go

751
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: ahead and research what is going on out there because

752
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: there would be people that would want to want to

753
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Speaker 1: make a move, maybe Desmond Ritter, if in fact they

754
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Speaker 1: knew they had two weeks before the season to do it.

755
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Speaker 3: Look at the Vikings with JJ McCarthy. Look at the Rams,

756
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: Matthew Staffords little banged up. Guess what, Jimmy g can't

757
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: play the first two games. He suspended Stetson Bennett just

758
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: threw four interceptions in a preseason game, just saying there

759
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: might be takers and those interested. He's a quarterback man,

760
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Speaker 3: All right, these rookies from last year have definitely made

767
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: a jump, including Oen Papo. We're going to talk about him,

768
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: other guys who are flashing on defense. It is the

769
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Speaker 3: big red Rage from Indianapolis, all presented by santan forward

770
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Speaker 3: in Gilbert third down at twelve car with time he's

771
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: gonna check down into the flat and nothing doing. Oh

772
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 3: and Papo runs down the running back along the line

773
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, three and out for the Saints offense and

774
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: the athletic inside linebacker making the play in space. When

775
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: I realized Owen Papo played sixteen games as a rookie

776
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: last year, his Twitter handle at the freak and he

777
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: showed that ability there. Well, if I mentioned this, there's

778
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: an old saying in the war room. When you get

779
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: into rounds five, six, and seven, win into doubt. Take

780
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Speaker 3: the freak. Take someone with that athletic upside. Take someone

781
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: who would have the measureables and the ability to compete

782
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: in the NFL. But maybe there's a drawbacker he needs

783
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: further seasoning or what have you. So when you're in

784
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: round five and you see this year Xavier Thomas is

785
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: on the board, for example, and he has elite speed

786
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 3: off the edge, boom, Wait a minute, it's worth taking

787
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Speaker 3: a shot. Last year, Owen Papo, the guy whose twitter

788
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: and will again is at the freak and were really

789
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: speedy guy and ultra strong, and but maybe it was

790
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: just a little raw coming out. And now all of

791
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: a sudden, under the tutelage of a Kai Zerra White

792
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: and Chris Barnes we heard from earlier, Look what you

793
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: might have in year two, Paulli.

794
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Speaker 1: There's also an old saying that says, take the football player,

795
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: not the freak. All right, take the football player, not

796
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: the freak. I'm just say there's two school of thoughts

797
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: on that one, right there. Man, Your thoughts on what

798
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: you're seeing right now, though, Paully, your thoughts on what's

799
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Speaker 1: happened in some numbers, Maybe that comes to mind to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think of the entire draft class in year two,

801
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: Garris Johnson Junior is now your franchise left tackle, and

802
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: he looked good against the likes of DeForest Buckner and

803
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: Leato Alatu. In these joint practices, you got Michael Wilson,

804
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: you have Garrett Williams, big hawks, big components on both

805
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. Right, So think of all the

806
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: guys who have taken Clayton tune looked so much better

807
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: in year two. Think of the guys last year and

808
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: now Owen Papos, Dante Stills, why doing up last week?

809
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: Think of the guys last year who have taken that

810
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: big leap into year two and the return on investment

811
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Speaker 3: Manias Safford is getting from that initial draft class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, I'm really encouraged what I'm seeing with Paris

813
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: Johnson Jr. I really am in the job that he

814
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Speaker 1: has been doing here. That's a number that has grabbed

815
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Speaker 1: my attention. Also, Darius Robinson, I'm so sorry, but you

816
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: you this guy is popping. There's no doubt about it.

817
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: I saw the bull rush against Quentin Nelson as well. Now,

818
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: again it's one bull rush in a one on one,

819
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Speaker 1: but we've seen Darius Robinson do some other things so

820
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Speaker 1: far in training camp. The New Orlands Saints game, the

821
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Speaker 1: first preseason game. How well he played. He came with

822
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Speaker 1: a arm over swim after jacking Caesar Louise, the right guard,

823
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Speaker 1: a guy who was a first round pick, a guy

824
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Speaker 1: who was a starter for the New Orleans Saints. Jacking

825
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: him and then swimming the move was incredible. Now the

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Speaker 1: ball came out, it was battered into the air, of course,

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Speaker 1: but what Darius Robinson has flashed is really really impressive

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Speaker 1: in that game and in training camp, and he continues

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Speaker 1: to grab the eye.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting to the point now or I'm not even

831
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Speaker 3: listening to what guys are saying. I'm just observing the

832
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Speaker 3: reaction when you say the name Darius Robinson. Did you

833
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Speaker 3: hear Chris Barnes earlier in the show, we brought up

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Speaker 3: Darius Robinson. Oh yeah, right, just his reaction gamer And

835
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Speaker 3: so okay, so you have that. Now, let's get back

836
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Speaker 3: to on Papo for a minute, because he has really

837
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Speaker 3: emerged over the course of this camp. And here's what

838
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Speaker 3: he had to say just about his objective and how

839
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Speaker 3: he wants to make an impression.

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Speaker 5: Early at the end of last season, you know, jayj

841
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 5: had to meet on Otto Rooki's and he's just really

842
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 5: talked about how important it is that jumped from year

843
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Speaker 5: one year two. You know, so this whole offseason, just

844
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Speaker 5: keep my head down, put in a lot of work,

845
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Speaker 5: and de Mangos just making ampression early. So he's just

846
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Speaker 5: gonna keep on building everything I've done so far.

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Speaker 3: It's just me thinking out out loud here again. But

848
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Speaker 3: if mac Wilson Senior goes to the edge, especially on

849
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Speaker 3: third down, Owen Papo comes in, has the speed to

850
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Speaker 3: cover backs and tight ends, and then all of a sudden,

851
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Speaker 3: mac Wilson Senior is one of those edge rushers and

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Speaker 3: it's Kaisier and Owen Papo in those situations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's a possibility, Paul. I think it

854
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Speaker 1: would have to be based on the down in distance,

855
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Speaker 1: as you said, is a third no obvious pass situation

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Speaker 1: where you're gonna take mac Wilson and put him up

857
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Speaker 1: there on the edge. That's a possibility. But maybe you're

858
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Speaker 1: gonna bring a dB in somebody, a dB you might

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Speaker 1: actually bring in there, depending on the personnel group that's

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Speaker 1: out on the field. Maybe it's eleven personnel, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: den It really it depends on the situation. I think

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Speaker 1: who the personnel might be, but I will tell you

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Speaker 1: right now, Xavier Thomas is a guy that you have

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Speaker 1: noticed and mentioned to me a couple of times, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just watching him develop as well. He got the sack,

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Speaker 1: of course in the Saints game, a couple of other

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Speaker 1: nice pass rush moves coming from Xavier Thomas in that game.

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Speaker 1: He's done the same thing here. Xavier Thomas has has

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Speaker 1: flashed again. At least in my way of thinking. I

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Speaker 1: think this young guy's got a chance. Something's happening with him, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but something is definitely

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Speaker 1: happening with fifty four.

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Speaker 3: When you see him go against the Colts starting right

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Speaker 3: tackle Braden Smith and he had his way in a

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Speaker 3: couple of reps, you realize, Okay, this isn't just a

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Speaker 3: byproduct of him going against backups and Cardinals camp that

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Speaker 3: he is legit. Love to hear what Jonathan Gannon thinks

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Speaker 3: after this second preseason game.

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Speaker 1: And the other player too, LJ. Collier. This is a

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Speaker 1: guy that we have talked about disruptive. He is disruptive.

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Speaker 1: That is great, and that's it. That's exactly what they

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Speaker 1: would want him to be. Is that three technique you

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Speaker 1: could put in there who would be disruptive. The most

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Speaker 1: destructive force in the universe is a disruptive three technique

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald knows all about that. And LJ. Collier

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Speaker 1: just because he's not a three hundred and thirty pounder,

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Speaker 1: he's not that big guy. He's built like Aaron Donald. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald. I'm just saying his build,

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Speaker 1: his frame very similar.

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Speaker 3: And a former first round pick of Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Two other guys the Cardinals grabbed off the scrap heat

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Speaker 3: at the end of camp last year. Roy Lopez has

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Speaker 3: been a standout and Starling Thomas. Here's Starling Thomas on

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Speaker 3: what he did this offseason to make his own jump.

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Speaker 8: I just feel like the bastiments I put into myself

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Speaker 8: and the overall game and the sacrifice that I made

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Speaker 8: this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go home.

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Speaker 8: I actually stay here and kind of work with Buddha

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Speaker 8: and jto off season and just being around those guys

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Speaker 8: and they save you around good people and you belcome

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Speaker 8: good yourself. So being around two pro bo type players, man,

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to become on myself. So just hanging out

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Speaker 8: with those guys has elevated me a lot.

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Speaker 3: Coming into camp. It was arguably the biggest question. Who

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Speaker 3: was going to start on the other side of Sean

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Speaker 3: Murphy bunting. Now, when you're going with only two corners,

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Speaker 3: it could be Garret Williams. But for the most part,

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Speaker 3: you're playing three cornerbacks and you're gonna play that Slaughter

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Speaker 3: Nickel corner. So who's outside and right now, if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna line up and play, it would be Starling Thomas,

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Speaker 3: especially since Max Melton has been nicked up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Man, he looks really, really good too. I love the

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Speaker 1: way Startling Thomas is competing, No doubt about that. Pully.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, the number three wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: Who is your number three wide receiver on the team

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would definitely go Greg Dorsch, but he would

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Speaker 3: be your slot receiver if you're going an outside receiver.

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Speaker 3: I thought, who had a good practice today? Zay Jones Jones.

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Speaker 3: I thought he had two good practices against the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Zay Jones has flashed. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: Polly a nice dig route, ran an awesome dig route,

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Speaker 1: and Clayton tune in that two minute drill actually hit

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Speaker 1: him good throw by Clayton Tune in really bad weather

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Speaker 1: as well right now. But Greg Dorch is he's on

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Speaker 1: a mission right now. He is eleven personnel. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Michael Wilson, I think, with Marvin Harrison junior of course,

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Speaker 1: and then Greg Dortch could be that third guy. Say

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Speaker 1: Jones might be into that mix as well, but Greg

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Speaker 1: Dortch in terms of running routes, he's smoking dudes right now.

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Speaker 3: The fifth receiver spot is something to watch against the

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Speaker 3: Colton cerinnat Xavier Weaver, the undrafted rookie on Colorado, and

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Speaker 3: Dan Shasena, who we both learned in the last twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours might be the fastest guy in the team.

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Speaker 1: Four three to two.

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Speaker 3: I did not know that he ran track at Penn State,

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Speaker 3: and so his performance against the Saints a preseason game

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Speaker 3: number one is certainly not a fluke. He's been doing

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