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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful morning here still in Palm Springs. It's

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Speaker 2: the morning after the Golden Wedding, and we definitely have

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Speaker 2: one of the absolute favorites.

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Speaker 3: It's last night. Had to be a little weird for you, huh.

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Speaker 4: I guess the anticipation of it was a lot harder

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Speaker 4: than it was in reality, to be honest, good.

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Speaker 5: To hear, yeah, because we've talked a lot about Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we been. We have connected like through through Instagram, and

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Speaker 5: when I went to the Bachelor Mansion, she was one

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Speaker 5: of the ones who liked ran up to me immediately.

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Speaker 6: In my icon, I hear the best. I even watched

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Speaker 6: the show.

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Speaker 5: So we've talked a lot about the you know, the

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Speaker 5: hesitancy to be here and and I've just been trying

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Speaker 5: to lift her up and say you you deserve to

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Speaker 5: be here and to be part of it all, because

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Speaker 5: correct me if I'm wrong, but my my take, I

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Speaker 5: feel like we talked about this, but you know, we said,

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Speaker 5: I know it's going to be really hard for you.

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Speaker 5: Why are you why are you feeling like you want

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Speaker 5: to be there? And she was saying that as the

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Speaker 5: as the runner up, right, I hate that word, but

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Speaker 5: as the runner up, that's what your called. Essentially. I

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Speaker 5: was there, Molly was there, you know whatever. Right, you're secluded.

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Speaker 5: So on the finale you're on your own. You don't

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Speaker 5: go to the mente or the women tell all, you

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Speaker 5: don't get to hang with the group like you are

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Speaker 5: on your on an island, and even more so because

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Speaker 5: it's like the two of you at the end and

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Speaker 5: then you're just left out in the cold essentially because

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Speaker 5: you don't get the man, you don't get the group

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Speaker 5: of friends you So part of it for her was

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Speaker 5: to be in the mix and like, actually get to

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Speaker 5: be part of this amazing group of golden bachelorettes. Yeah

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Speaker 5: that she doesn't normally get to, Like is that true?

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Speaker 4: That's so true because I created such a bond with

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Speaker 4: them and they were doing all these things and I

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Speaker 4: wasn't jealous.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't envious.

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Speaker 4: I just felt left out because you know, we had

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Speaker 4: such a great time, we spent so much time together

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Speaker 4: and they're doing this and that, and I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 4: don't leave me out in the car. Yeah, so I really,

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Speaker 4: you know, I was given the choice to come and

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Speaker 4: no one made me come. Teresa invited me, and I

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Speaker 4: really thought, at the end of the day, we're all

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Speaker 4: here for one reason is to find love. And obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know, I know, came down to one of us

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Speaker 4: out of two. And Teresa and I were really good

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Speaker 4: friends in the house, and we spent a lot of

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Speaker 4: time together and a lot of talks, and we really

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Speaker 4: support each other and we laughed, and you know, so

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Speaker 4: I as soon as I I shouldn't say as soon,

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Speaker 4: but I had to process my heartbreak and it took

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Speaker 4: a while. But after that I realized that, you know what,

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Speaker 4: she they're probably perfect for each other. And I'm so

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Speaker 4: happy that she fell in love because that's what we

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Speaker 4: came for, and especially at our age, it's we wanted

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Speaker 4: to show the world that you don't give up if

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Speaker 4: you're sixty five or seventy and so, and she found

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Speaker 4: her true love and I can only support.

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Speaker 5: That love them.

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Speaker 3: It's you said something there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because you said nobody forced you

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Speaker 2: to come, And also from my understanding of last night,

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Speaker 2: Teresa really wanted you there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, right, she did.

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Speaker 2: So you wanted to be there, you chose to come,

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Speaker 2: and she really wanted you there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you like, was there ever a moment where you

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Speaker 3: didn't want to be there.

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Speaker 6: Last night? You mean, yeah, no, not really.

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Speaker 4: It was a little uncomfortable during this ceremony when they

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Speaker 4: were talking about Costa Rica.

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Speaker 6: Because I was there too, I knew it.

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Speaker 4: I looked at you, I know you did, and but

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Speaker 4: you know, I was like, it came in here and

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Speaker 4: then it went out. I was like, okay, let's just

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Speaker 4: it was probably the only time it was really uncomfortable

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Speaker 4: and for me, you know, and seeing Teresa so happy

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Speaker 5: Anyhow, you know what what I think was uncomfortable When

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Speaker 6: Dance without music.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that was the weird we've never met.

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Speaker 2: And they're like, hey, Ben, you get the dance party

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Speaker 2: started night and I was like, I'm good with that.

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Speaker 2: You're like, Leslie's going to help you, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: well that's great, She's a good dancer, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: just didn't know what we're going to do. Like, and

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Speaker 2: so what we're talking about is when there was like

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Speaker 2: the reception started they asked us to start the dance party.

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Speaker 2: That was something they wanted us to do, and we

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Speaker 2: both agreed to do it. And so we get out

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Speaker 2: there and they're like, okay, get people on the dance floor.

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Speaker 2: Like great, we start doing it and then there's no music.

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Speaker 4: There is no music, but I looked at you and

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Speaker 4: you're dancing. I'm like, are we dancing there?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, we're in it. She goes, wait,

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Speaker 2: I said, oh, yeah, you're We're in it, like we're

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Speaker 2: we're almost done.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't. And then I came out there on the

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Speaker 5: dance floor and he goes, thank you.

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Speaker 3: That was weird.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I'm like, is this a warm up? Is

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Speaker 6: he practicing his moves or we're doing this?

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Speaker 2: Note there were seventy percent on this thing, like you've

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Speaker 2: been on live television for the last twenty five seconds,

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Speaker 2: just standing there looking at me like.

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Speaker 3: What's he doing?

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Speaker 5: Weird?

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Speaker 6: You know, it was like where's the The music came

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Speaker 6: and then it went and I'm like, what's playing on?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That was the weird moment. I'm really yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say that it's really big of

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Speaker 2: you to come, and I also get what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: What Trista was explaining is when you're like the runner

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Speaker 2: up or even sometimes the person chosen, it is a

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Speaker 2: very isolating experience on this show. It is because people

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Speaker 2: make bonds from all these events, and also they bond

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Speaker 2: over rejection, like early on in the season. Totally, it

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Speaker 2: does feel very isolating. So I'm glad that you get

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Speaker 2: to be here and have a great weekend. And so

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Speaker 2: let's lean into that a second. How has it been

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Speaker 2: being back around these women that are at this wedding,

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Speaker 4: Well, it's been amazing. I came in, you know, Wednesday night,

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Speaker 4: I walked into the bar and seeing everybody and giving,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was just amazing to hugging my

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Speaker 4: friends and I really miss them and we would communicate

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Speaker 4: all the time on a daily basis, but it's not

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Speaker 4: the same as actually being around them. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I always say, like when I was doing the show,

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Speaker 4: I missed my friends at home immensely in my family

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Speaker 4: of course, but these women we have a bond that

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Speaker 4: no one else could understand, and so we're always going

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Speaker 4: to have that and it's just a special.

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Speaker 5: Bomb including Bachelor Nation like all of us, I know,

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Speaker 5: like it's a crazy family. Bennett last night, one of

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Speaker 5: the producers for everybody out there, he was he was saying,

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Speaker 5: how are you having fun? Like are you enjoying this?

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love the reunion like aspect of it because we

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Speaker 5: are kind of one big, happy, dysfunctional, crazy family. But

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Speaker 5: I was like, I've always said I want to have

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Speaker 5: a reunion of everybody like last night, and these kind

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Speaker 5: of events are like that. But you know, Bob isn't here.

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Speaker 5: There are OG's like more my seasons that were not present,

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Speaker 5: and I would love to do. I mean, it would

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Speaker 5: be a lot of faking people.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm I'm hanging them with the hey.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah you were.

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Speaker 6: You and not even me because I'm not a young.

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Speaker 3: Triscy. You've been around for a long time. I've been

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Speaker 3: around for a long time. You're new to this. Every season,

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Speaker 3: the cast gets off and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe get really close for a few months and they

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Speaker 2: do everything together and they talk every day, and then

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Speaker 2: every time that fades and there's like little groups that

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Speaker 2: still stay together and stay friends. I have never in

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Speaker 2: the eight years, sixteen seasons that I've seen since my time,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a group as close as you are,

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Speaker 2: the Golden ladies that just not only enjoy, but they cheer,

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Speaker 2: root for celebrate each other like you all do. Do

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Speaker 2: you see your this sustaining? Like, do you see these

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Speaker 2: friendships continuing and maybe giving a new example to the

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Speaker 3: Coming up?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely completely see. I mean, you know, I'm going to Florida.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to see April. I, you know, want to

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Speaker 4: go out east and be with Joan. I mean, we've

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Speaker 4: made plans. I know a lot of the girls, A

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Speaker 4: the next couple of months. I totally cannot see these

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Speaker 4: to me. And yeah, I think that we're just you know,

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Speaker 4: I guess maybe it comes with age and at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, women should lift up women. And

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying men aren't important, but we

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Speaker 6: And I think that just comes with age. We just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've always been you know how Courty Robertson

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Speaker 5: wrote a book about I didn't come here to make friends.

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Speaker 5: I think that was her tagline, and I always thought,

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Speaker 5: but why not? Yeah, Like I love my friends and

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Speaker 5: they're like my chosen family. And it is true, like

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Speaker 5: as you get older, you realize what really truly matters,

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Speaker 5: and if you don't have the like significant other part

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Speaker 5: of it, obviously you're searching for that and I hope

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Speaker 5: you still find it. But I think that the friends

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Speaker 5: they can make life.

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Speaker 4: And these are girls that, like, if I met outside

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Speaker 4: the show, I would want to be friends with. Yes,

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Speaker 4: they're not just oh we're forced together totally. We just

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Speaker 4: I think they did a really good job and casting

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Speaker 4: the show because we are all really different, but yet

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Speaker 6: Have just the same kind of you know, mindset.

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Speaker 2: On all that. So yeah, the uh, I'm with you

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Speaker 2: make friends, you know, Caitlyn, even like I see Kaitlyn

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Speaker 2: last day and we heard her we're sitting ice shows,

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Speaker 2: Like Kaitlyn.

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Speaker 3: Is weird ever to you that? Like we're like I

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Speaker 3: enjoy coming to.

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Speaker 2: See you and hanging out with you and having a

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Speaker 2: drink with you, Like after you're the bachelorette, you know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, no, I said, isn't that cool?

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Speaker 3: Like that were place.

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Speaker 5: That's like when we were in Tahoe and Max, we

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no other place that you could actually do

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Speaker 7: about it, and then he would shake it off. Okay, well,

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Speaker 7: before we send, you have to have breakfast. You know,

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Speaker 7: for our listeners here, they've watched you on the Golden

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Speaker 7: you got to explain to us kind of why you

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Speaker 7: of wondering about your life now starting you know tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: That's this chapter kind of closes, and yeah, just fill

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Speaker 7: them in on what they can kind of expect from you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean to be honest, I think sometimes people are thought, oh,

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Speaker 6: I just of course, I want to find love and

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Speaker 6: I have.

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Speaker 4: Maybe had some bad luck, but I have a very

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Speaker 4: full life. I have been blessed beyond by my children,

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Speaker 4: my grandchildren. I have amazing friends. I love Minneapolis, it's

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Speaker 6: Home and just be.

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Speaker 4: I just I'm really really good. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: really have a lot of love around me all the time.

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Speaker 4: And I'm very blessed my children, three of my I

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Speaker 4: have three children. You can ask any one of them

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Speaker 4: all say me, I love it. Yeah, So I'm blessed

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Speaker 3: We're excited to see you continue to shine.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It was great to see you here.

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Speaker 4: It's really fun being here with you guys. And our

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Speaker 4: dance bend is iconic.

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Speaker 3: It's icon I'll never I will never forget the moment.

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Speaker 6: Part of it today and we both did the body roll.

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Speaker 2: You by the way, well, I really loosened on my

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Speaker 2: Leslie goes are we dancing? It's like, lesson, I've been

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Speaker 2: dancing for two minutes. How you don't know that is

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Speaker 3: He's not over here percolating on the corner. Leslie.

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Speaker 6: Thanks again, Thank you guys so much. You really fun.

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