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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We were presented by

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Speaker 1: Win Back. Betty is a team sport bet together at

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Speaker 1: win But Bart, first things first, Happy New Year to

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Speaker 1: you and your family. Hey, Sammy, you man, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a tough one. The only way we can get

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Speaker 1: through this is as a family, as a Jet family,

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Speaker 1: because we are the only ones that can kind of

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Speaker 1: empathize with our pain today. So where do we start, Bart? Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Jets are embarking on one final game here in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, when just a few weeks ago it

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Speaker 1: sure looked like this team was headed for the playoffs

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Speaker 1: for the first time. So that's two thousand ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately that street continues, Uh, fifteen or twelve years,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and you know, we're you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: even close. Um, And it's unfortunate because the future looks bright,

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Speaker 1: but you know, the future was also now, and the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get to the season, to have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to get that type of necessary experience with a young

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Speaker 1: team and a young rostery ahead of schedule. You know,

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Speaker 1: it all kind of feels a little bit bitter sweet

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Speaker 1: now because you see the potential, but you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to have to carry this for an entire

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Speaker 1: year to kind of get that, you know, monkey off

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Speaker 1: your back, you know, and and to walk around and

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just one of those tough things that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to grow from, learn from, and understand

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Speaker 1: the consequences of not making it to the postseason. You

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Speaker 1: talk about turnover. You know, it's gonna be some unfortunate

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Speaker 1: familiar faces on this roster that won't be here next year.

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Speaker 1: And you know, really the future begins now, right. You

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Speaker 1: look at all the scouts and now how important Bowl

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Speaker 1: games become in the process, and it's a daunteam long road,

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Speaker 1: you know, and worrying about how get guy's health. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to digest, and these guys gonna have to

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Speaker 1: get away from it. Even the administrator is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to get away from it. Management is gonna have to

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Speaker 1: get away from it and try and digest it and

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Speaker 1: take a breath and say, Okay, it is what it is,

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Speaker 1: and how do we move forward. So what do you

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Speaker 1: point to in terms of a backbreaker? You're seven and

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Speaker 1: four your Minnesota, you got a big deficit, you come back,

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Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna be the fourth quarter magic Again,

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Speaker 1: you're not able to convert in the red zone in

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Speaker 1: that game one of six. We can go back to

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Speaker 1: that sequence where it's second and goal from the one.

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Speaker 1: Jets aren't able to get it done. The following week

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Speaker 1: their game in Buffalo, lose the turnover battle, but it's

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Speaker 1: a one possession game. Is it, Detroit, though? Is it

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Speaker 1: when you have that seventeen thirteen lead at the two

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Speaker 1: minute warning, fourth and one, Golf gets his tight end

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Speaker 1: wide open, fifty one yard touched on pass. What was

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Speaker 1: the backbreaker? What changed? Because what has happened here the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks has been really surprising for this team.

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at their body of work

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Speaker 1: over the course of the season, but against Jacksonville, against Seattle,

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Speaker 1: not really in those game tames at all well understanding

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Speaker 1: how to finish, and this team don't understand how to finish.

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Speaker 1: The mentality and the preparation when everybody else was fighting

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Speaker 1: for their playoff lives and we're able to step up,

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Speaker 1: they weren't able to answer the bell. And you know

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Speaker 1: that should be the mantra going into next year. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's okay to start fast, but you have to finish

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Speaker 1: and it's a lot of teams that caught the Jets

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Speaker 1: because they finished strong, right, And you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: just get out to fast, and that's usually the sign

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Speaker 1: of a young, inexperienced team. They get out fast, but

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Speaker 1: as the pressure builds up, they can't handle and answer

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Speaker 1: the bell. And you know, you can ask a lot

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Speaker 1: of factors and consist at the quarterback position. You know,

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Speaker 1: the defense seeming like they you know, didn't have the

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Speaker 1: same pop. And you know, one of the uh strength

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Speaker 1: ten ten ten pass rushers and then when they were

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Speaker 1: able to make sure that guys can stay fresh, but

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Speaker 1: guys really wore down and you know, they became bad tacklers.

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Speaker 1: And yesterday was an example of a team that it's

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Speaker 1: more physical, right, and they struggled with that type of

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Speaker 1: how do we become a better tackling team, How do

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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, same type of deal. You gotta be able

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Speaker 1: because all of a sudden they became a bad tackling team,

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Speaker 1: and all teams take off the pad usually after November

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Speaker 1: because just about over Trich and you can't beat each

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Speaker 1: other up and had the physicality and practice. But when

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Speaker 1: you're inexperience as a unit, those type of things and

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Speaker 1: those bad habits happen. You know, sometimes you gotta put

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Speaker 1: how to take down guys who are running for their lives.

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Speaker 1: We expect you guys who play in between the white

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Speaker 1: lines on Sundays to be superman like White taken off,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming back to the lineup, re inserted as

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Speaker 1: a starter after taking those vicious shots in Buffalo. He

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Speaker 1: did not look like himself against the Seahawks, did he

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Speaker 1: not at all? Man? You talk about how many balls

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Speaker 1: were inaccurate. How many balls were just coming up short.

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Speaker 1: You know, you think about the one that mems, You

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Speaker 1: think about the one to Garrett Wilson just not really

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Speaker 1: having really touching rhythm. You know, not only was he rusty,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he had the ability physically to be

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Speaker 1: able to put the the torque on the football that

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Speaker 1: we had seen from him earlier in the year. And

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Speaker 1: he won't make an excuse and talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: the rails weren't ready. But as soon as you're clear

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Speaker 1: from the doctors, if you're Mike White, you know you're

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Speaker 1: playing for yourself and you're playing for your team, and

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Speaker 1: this was an opportunity. Rarely do you know, players get

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that you know, he probably won't admit it,

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Speaker 1: enough time to get a rhythm. What's disappointed this fact

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Speaker 1: that this team came off from many by they just

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Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how to get her done. And you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the recurring things from the last three opponents

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's kind of what teams have been doing.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville did the same thing. They ran man beaters and

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Speaker 1: crossed people up, and you know, unfortunately the defense wasn't

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Speaker 1: finish strong and put put together seventeen great performances. Man.

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Speaker 1: Obviously White didn't look like himself. He was clear for contact,

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe I'm asking this question. It's Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask it again. Uh. Robert Salas said

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Speaker 1: last week that White is going to be the starter

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Speaker 1: for the remainder of the year. Now you go into

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Speaker 1: where you know Sunday night you're going home and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Do you stick with White here, uh this final game?

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Speaker 1: Or do you give him a breather because he's not himself? No?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm sure Mike White want to

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Speaker 1: needs a heavy reset and offseason, being able to put

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Speaker 1: you know, so you you you stay with Mike White

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Speaker 1: because also Mike White is auditioning for thirty two thirty

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Speaker 1: be a free agent, and you give him an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to not have that be the lasting image of himself.

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Speaker 1: You know, go out and try and put a good

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Speaker 1: can't finish five. You know, you just gotta go back

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Speaker 1: and see what you can do. What's the message? What's

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Speaker 1: the take away from watching a guy like Geno Smith

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Speaker 1: have a career year with the Seahawks. Obviously he was

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Speaker 1: very good, very efficient again on Sunday against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a young quarterback and you look at

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith's career arc that started here with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: what's the takeaway? It ain't over towards over right, and

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Speaker 1: And if you're if you're a quarterback, you know sometimes

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Speaker 1: you know, you get that scarlet letter and they in

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Speaker 1: You never get an opportunity show otherwise, at least to

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Speaker 1: unique story. I can't recall a story where a player

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Speaker 1: but you know, late in his career, after not starting

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Speaker 1: can't think of somebody who had a better redemption story.

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Speaker 1: Someone who didn't play, you know, at a high level,

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Speaker 1: didn't really get opportunity. They went to the Raiders and

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Speaker 1: took that team to the super Bowl. I think one

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Speaker 1: you figure, is gonna give him some sort of an

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Speaker 1: extension because it looks like first round draft picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have four picks in the first two rounds next year,

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Speaker 1: top five pick exactly. So you're looking at that and

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Speaker 1: you know they thought that first five that uh, that

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Speaker 1: now you can say, Listen is young enough, we can

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Speaker 1: go with Gino for the next three to four years.

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Speaker 1: Give him a four year deal, four year extension that

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Speaker 1: locks him under you know contract, and you know, they

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Speaker 1: that they lost in the jamal Um Adams trade as well,

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Speaker 1: which you know, Jamal Adams turned into Garrett Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Breece Hall. Now, looking back, the season is not over.

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Speaker 1: You got one game left. But this team started five

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Speaker 1: it more difficult. And listen, everybody, whether they admit it

429
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Speaker 1: or the on the injury report or not, are beat

430
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Speaker 1: up and hurt, and it's just it's just a matter

431
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Speaker 1: of physics. You know, the bigger man, stronger man, the

432
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Speaker 1: guy that's that's fresher usually is able to win those matchups.

433
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Speaker 1: When you get to these late games. I mean, hell,

434
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Speaker 1: how can you explain in Carolina how they running downhill? No,

435
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Speaker 1: I mean because they got big, powerful outfit, and you

436
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: when you run downhill, you know right now, guys just

437
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: aren't equipped to hold up physically. Everybody's put together with

438
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Speaker 1: duct tape and glue right now. Yeah, I'll never forget

439
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: what your training room looked like downstairs heading into that

440
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Speaker 1: FC Championship game against Pittsburgh. I don't remember what the

441
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Speaker 1: injury report was, but I mean it was something else

442
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: like it looked like an infirmary. Guys walking out of

443
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Speaker 1: the training room at that point of the season. Yeah, man,

444
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: and you're just hoping that you've got enough. You just

445
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Speaker 1: hope that you're not injured. You're you're less injured than

446
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: your opponents, that's all you It's like one of those things.

447
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: You just want to be fresher than your opponent and

448
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: you do all your best, but sometimes it's unfortunate. Okay,

449
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: so we got to add in a second, but can

450
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Speaker 1: can the Jets You said this could be a lesson

451
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Speaker 1: for them that they could take moving forward. Can they

452
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Speaker 1: really take something from these games? Or you look at

453
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: more like the Buffalo the Minnesota game, where these couple

454
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Speaker 1: games is. It's like he didn't have much. You just

455
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: saw that, you know, Seattle On Jacksonville took it to

456
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Speaker 1: you for sixty minutes. Good good team. Good teams find

457
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: a way to win, to finish. And as these younger

458
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Speaker 1: players mature into their body and learn how to be

459
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Speaker 1: a professional, they'll learn how to build their body to

460
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Speaker 1: be successful and to stay fresh. And that's that's that's

461
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: important too, right, being able to know how you invest

462
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Speaker 1: in your body. What's your routine is going to have

463
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: to be, how do you stay strong throughout the season.

464
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Speaker 1: How much cardio do you do? How much extra lifting

465
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Speaker 1: do you do? How much cardio mean, how much chiropractor? Uh?

466
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Speaker 1: Personal mussus. That's all investments that come out of your pocket,

467
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Speaker 1: that's away from the facility. You know. You you hear

468
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: about the great athletes like Lebron James and how much

469
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: money he invested in his body throughout his career, Chris Paul,

470
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: even Russell Wilson. It's about how much money you how

471
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: important it is to you, and you find it out

472
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Speaker 1: what makes you stay healthy and play at a high

473
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: level for all seventeen. If you're solid this week, do

474
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Speaker 1: you take a long look at some of those young

475
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: guys that and I don't have the roster in front

476
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Speaker 1: of me. I don't have anybody top of mind right now.

477
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Speaker 1: But Dan, you saw guys like that everything out there.

478
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Speaker 1: Um'm so yeah, yeah. I mean, you get my opportunities

479
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Speaker 1: to play, but I mean I think you also want

480
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Speaker 1: a chance to maybe not Miami out. If I can't go,

481
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Speaker 1: you can't and go either, especially with the comments of

482
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill early in the process when he made made

483
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: made light of oh who the Jets, you know, like, okay, yeah,

484
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: we you know you ain't going either. If I can't go,

485
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: you can't go. Take that with you, Yeah. Is that

486
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: something they talk amongst themselves in the locker room that

487
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: we want to be spoiler. We don't want the Dolphins

488
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: go if I can't go. I'll be damned if somebody

489
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: within my division is about to have have a good

490
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Speaker 1: time and they have extra game and get that type

491
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: of experience. What if you're solid, what do you say

492
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: to them this week early in the week, once you

493
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: get back here onesday, let's finished from because no matter what,

494
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: everybody's not gonna be here, So put your best effort

495
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: out there. So that you can play for somewhere else

496
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: because people see how you finish when there's nothing to

497
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: play for. And we're gonna get to the quarterback bit

498
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: once we break down the season next week. But man,

499
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: it's been something else for the Jets of the quarterback

500
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Speaker 1: position this year. Yeah. I mean you look, you look

501
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: at like a team like the Giants and what they've

502
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: been able to do, but they've had consistency at the

503
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: orterback position. So I mean, it's so different for everybody.

504
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: This guy five step drop is different, this guy ball

505
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: is different, this guy Caten's and rhythm is different. You know,

506
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: the one place where you gotta have consistency at and

507
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: gotta have you know, you know the same person is

508
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Yeah. Um, who are you liking the

509
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: FC right now? And who you like in NFC? I

510
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: like the Bengals right now. Uh so you got them winning,

511
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: You got them winning tonight at home, I do, which

512
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: could be bad news because then whether I think they

513
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: hate the Patriots enough that they wouldn't just lay aid

514
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: for the Patriots either, you know what I mean? If

515
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: they lost, I think they wouldn't want to go. Um,

516
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think you wouldn't would probably still be

517
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: playing for a two or three seed exactly because they

518
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be far behind Cincinnati. And it was

519
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: the same regular Cincinnati. Even though Cincinnati has a game

520
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Speaker 1: with Baltimore. If Cincinnati loses today, then it gets flex

521
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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna be playing the Baltimore Ravens for

522
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Speaker 1: the division where it seemed like they had the division

523
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Speaker 1: wrapped up. Okay, so Cincinnati, f C, NFC, you got Frisco, Yeah,

524
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: I got Frisco. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, And when they play

525
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: football and give me a dark horse emerging, are the

526
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Speaker 1: Chargers are dark horse? No? I just don't think defensively

527
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: they do enough. I do like them on the offensive

528
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Both are coming back, YO makes

529
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: them better? They can't they don't stop the run. I

530
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: just their team that I think can surprise somebody in

531
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: a wild card. But I think eventually they have a

532
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: silly So you still you still see Cincinnati, Kansas City,

533
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Buffalo. Those three are gonna duke it out,

534
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: and you just you just never know. Like a team

535
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: that can upset some people are the Ravens. If Lamar

536
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Jackson comes back just because he can be special. And

537
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: if you watch the TCU game, you see that a

538
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback can kind of mess up everything. You do

539
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: everything right in and mobile quarterback and make you pay

540
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 1: like no no other position in the league. Uh speaking

541
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: of TCU, Uh, puncher's chance against Georgia or you expect

542
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: them to win that game? I mean Georgia, Eskate. It's like,

543
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: if Marvin Harris Jr. Doesn't get hurt, that's a totally

544
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: different situation. I know that's a big if, but you know,

545
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: somebody taking a personal file shot on somebody not getting

546
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: injected your helmet. The helmet, yo, shouldn't have cost the

547
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes to national championship. But that's the football

548
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: and it worked out in Georgia's favor. But it definitely

549
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: would have been not the same outcome if if Marvin

550
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior hadn't got injured. Yeah, he's gonna be a

551
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: freak on the next level. Well all right, brother, what's

552
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: this week looking for you? Looking like for you? Well?

553
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: Getting back on the bike, man, I was gonna go

554
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: back to the local with the with the radio station

555
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: and back to TV. Man. Unfortunately I won't be talking

556
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: about the Jets. You know much. I'm sure we'll talk

557
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: about them, but we won't be talking about them in

558
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: the postseason, so you know, it's always tough that way. Alright, buddy,

559
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Speaker 1: See next week. Yeah, I'm gonna crying the car h