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Speaker 3: See where Jackson Dart ends up playing My first I have.

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Speaker 2: At three, the Giants take Abdul Carter. Penn State's pro

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as would of Nolan.

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Speaker 2: As would of Nolan. At twenty four, the Vikings take

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Speaker 2: At twenty six, the Rams take Donovan Jackson, offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: At twenty seven, the Ravens take Shamar Stewart defensive lineman

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Speaker 3: Texas A and m thea pick. Yeah yeah. Rights.

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Speaker 2: At thirty the Bills take Maxwell Harston, Kentucky cornerback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At thirty one, the Chiefs take Josh Simmons offensive

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Speaker 2: And at thirty two, the Eagles take Nick Emori safety

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Speaker 3: Not their style to spend on a safety, but it's

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Speaker 3: one of their weaker position areas Walter Nolan was still there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I have not started seen any red flag of note.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll hear something different between now and the draft.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not. But I just wonder if some of this

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Speaker 3: No. No, he's not a great pick for them.

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Speaker 2: No, no, right, I know they won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: This year he's up? I think they have a year

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Speaker 3: They're not going to do it, no way no.

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Speaker 3: Those two point zero for him. We would have taken

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Speaker 2: I would have taken Nolan, Ye would have taken Harmon

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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and earlier in the show today Matt I

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Speaker 2: the end of the show. And t Hamlin asks, do

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Speaker 2: No, I do not know they're gonna pay t J. Watt's money.

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Speaker 2: Is it going to effect this year's salary cap? No,

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Speaker 2: it'll help it if anything, If anything, that's going to

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Speaker 2: Much and any money that you save this year you

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's not one or the other, No, it

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Speaker 2: And no, I don't think they'll ride with Mason, No,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Rogers could retire and who knows, but I'm

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Speaker 2: If that were the if that were the instance, if

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Speaker 2: Rogers did decide no, I'm not going to play, they

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Speaker 3: There are the two names I've thrown around, right, I

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Speaker 3: Would you take?

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Speaker 2: Would you take an offensive tackle in round one? Since

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Speaker 2: mid rounds? I would not know.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I mean if Jonathan Ogden was sitting there,

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Speaker 2: Class, not at this point because he's like forty five, right.

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Speaker 3: But he's pretty good, I know.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not a great offensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: It's not a great tackle class. That means you're not

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Speaker 3: I'm always in favor of grabbing offensive tackles because they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think guess what they right? I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: Slave's got a lot left in the tank. I think

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Speaker 2: I mean they went ten and seven last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They had five touchdown passes five in six games.

445
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 3: They're not slinging it all over the field.

446
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 2: They were not. It was a carryover of really of

447
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: what they had been doing with Kenny Pickett.

448
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 3: They have, they have a.

449
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 2: Formula that they know how to win those kind of games.

450
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 2: The idea is to not to have to win those

451
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 2: kind of games.

452
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 3: If Rogers is a Steeler, as mentioned here, they're not

453
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 3: going to throw five touchdowns in the first six game.

454
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 3: No not. I mean Wilson wouldn't have either, right, Justin

455
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 3: Grove ask. I think that's the beauty where they're at, Right,

456
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: I think you can live for today while still really absol.

457
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: That's what the last two drafts have really been about, exactly.

458
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 3: It's been very much that way setting up for that.

459
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 2: Day justin Grove ass, do you think ty Robinson, it's

460
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: my guy? Defensive tackle from Nebraska would be a mid

461
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 2: round steel for the Steelers? Would the Dean of Doom

462
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 2: approve of that pick? Drake Dre had great draft coverage

463
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 2: again this year. I've been a Tyro Robinson fan from

464
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: the beginning in this whole process, the first like, he

465
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: was one of the first guys I watched in this class,

466
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 2: just because the first thing that I look for when

467
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at defensive linemen in particular, do they have

468
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: the height weight combo? And I'm like, okay, so I checked.

469
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: I pull out the list of here are the guys

470
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: that were draft available this year, and I start watching

471
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: tape of them. I'm like, oh, this guy's pretty good.

472
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 2: And then I'll start looking where he's ranked at. I'm like,

473
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: why is he in the seventh round of these? I

474
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: don't get it. And then you see him creeping up,

475
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 2: creeping up, creeping up. He may en up going to

476
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: the third round.

477
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. What I was gonna say about is I agree

478
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: with that what he said now he would not be

479
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: my answer of they took Dart in the first that

480
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: I'll just take him into third and my problems are solved. No,

481
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: he's not the next Cam Hayward, right, but he could

482
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 3: be really useful and hard to play against. And if

483
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: I took Grant in the first and then I took

484
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 3: him in the fourth, now you're cooking. Now you have

485
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: the D line exactly where you want it. Yeah.

486
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see, and that should be the goal.

487
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: That should be the goal. Yeah yeah, Paul asks again

488
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: another question from Paul.

489
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 3: This is a second question.

490
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: Why aren't hypothetical Steelers end up with Dart Shuck or

491
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: Milrow this season? They become the starter and go ten

492
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 2: and eight with the quarterback play roughly equivalent through what

493
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: fields or Russ gave us last year. Do they still

494
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: go all in on a quarterback or in the better

495
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: class of twenty twenty six. Well, first of all, we

496
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: don't know that the class next year is going to be.

497
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: Better than y r right.

498
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: And if one of those guys becomes your starter and

499
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: you win ten games, oh, I'll bets are off. All

500
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: bets are off.

501
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna roll with that unless that you're

502
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: dragging them along. But if they're helping you, I mean,

503
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 3: if they could be the answer you hit the lottery right, right,

504
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: and then you're thrilled. Yeah, Or even if you took

505
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: No Row in the third and he showed you enough. Yeah,

506
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: did you say, maybe we'll postpone this Rolex strip till

507
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: a year from now.

508
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: But I also don't see that hypothetical happening.

509
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: I don't think they'll go ten and eight. But first

510
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: of all, in the seventeen game season, to.

511
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: Draft Dart they would have to do so well, really

512
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 2: the draft Dart or Shock, they would have to do

513
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: so in the first round.

514
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

515
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: And to get mill Roe would have to be probably

516
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: in the third round. They probably doesn't last to their

517
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: fourth round pick, right right. So I just don't see

518
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: that happening.

519
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 3: That's the thing, right, I mean, maybe there's weird trade

520
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 3: downs and you end up with different spots in the

521
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 3: draft and you can grab Shuck at thirty five or something.

522
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 3: You know, I'd like that, but you know that's probably

523
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: not this year's goal. Yeah.

524
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: Our next question is how much improvement or lack thereof

525
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: do you expect from the back seven on the d

526
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: this season. I wonder if part of the issue has

527
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: been the lack of continuity Slay may know everything to

528
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: play in our d, but quickly, how quickly can he

529
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: learn his teammates and build chemistry.

530
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: That doesn't worry me.

531
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm not concerned about that. And no, I didn't see

532
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: I didn't see the second as a necessarily a problem

533
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: last year.

534
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't a Jackson fan.

535
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: There was there were issues there, there were issues in

536
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: the slot.

537
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think both those positions are better. Yeah, they're

538
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 3: not Rod Woodson, but they're better. You're better. Yeah. I

539
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: expect the linebacker play to be equal or maybe better.

540
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm basing that off Wilson. Yeah, and I do think

541
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: second year Queen should be better than I just think there.

542
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: Were so many new pieces last year that that's when

543
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: you see the miscommunication issues. But here's the thing about

544
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: the miscommunication issues. Every single team has them.

545
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 3: To say, I don't think it was worse than the average.

546
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when Baltimore was giving up three hundred yards

547
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: every week, it was because they were having miscommunication.

548
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: It was way below the bar.

549
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it took them two thirds of the season

550
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: to figure it out. They finally did when they kind

551
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: of dumb things down a little bit. Yeah, and oh,

552
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: by the way, put Malie Harrison in the starting lineup.

553
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he knew where he was supposed to communication

554
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: guy and all that stuff too. I'm I'm almost ready

555
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: to say that the back seven is done. You know,

556
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: if you added one little something or a piece in

557
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: after the draft, small potatoes or a corner, you can't

558
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 3: believe they're in the third round. You took fine. But

559
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 3: I also think the back seven will be an above

560
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: average group, but it probably won't be the reason you

561
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: have a terrible season or a super Bowl winning season either.

562
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: The key is the other thing is they're built to

563
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: take the ball away. That's what they do.

564
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: Which is based off the pass rush, which is based.

565
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: Off the pass rush, which is based on having guys

566
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: who put themselves in position to take the ball away.

567
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: Team speeds all and they've been really good at it

568
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: over the last three or four years. Yes, you're gonna

569
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: every team gives up plays, of course, it's just the

570
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: reality of today's NFL. The rules are set up against

571
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: those guys in the back seven. But if you take

572
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: the football away, that's better than a punt.

573
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, that's part of the formula. Yeah,

574
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: that's the big reason why they end up in the playoff.

575
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: They've morphed what they want at cornerback away from like

576
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: Ike Taylor couldn't play on this particular team, right, or

577
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: that style of corner after Right, it's not what they're after.

578
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: They want guys who take the football way.

579
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

580
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: It's not well, we'll take this guy, we'll take this

581
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: cornerback in the fourth or fifth round, and we just

582
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: want them to come up and tackle the catch. Yea,

583
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: those days are over, Those days are over.

584
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: Right.

585
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Mike Price asked well, with depth on the defensive line class,

586
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: would it not be beneficial to go after a top

587
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: flight corner in round one like Will Johnson or barn

588
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't see either one of those guys being available

589
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: at twenty one.

590
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: And I would understand that path, yeah, because they're really

591
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: good and slays a rental, and you know, they're probably

592
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: better than the twenty first to your point, better than

593
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: the twenty first overall player.

594
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: If you still had a second round pick, I would

595
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: agree with that a little bit more. But you don't.

596
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: You don't, I mean, because you're gonna be lacking on

597
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: the We've talked about this. I mean it's to choose

598
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: your own adventure, and you went down the wrong road

599
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: to begin with. It's hard to get back on the path.

600
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Short Junior asked if they take someone like Schucker

601
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: McCord in a third or fourth round, will they still

602
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: trade up for a quarterback they like in the first

603
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: round next year. First of all, Shuck's not going to

604
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: be available in the third or fourth round, And no,

605
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: McCord or whoever would not keep you from taking a

606
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: quarterback next year. Any quarterback you take in round four

607
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: or three or three is a little different, but not much.

608
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: But if you take one round four or later, the

609
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: idea is that that guy's a potential backup.

610
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: And I like some of those dudes. We've talked about

611
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: them a lot, We've drafted them a lot, not Shuck.

612
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: I'm talking about McCord and Rourke and Howard, et cetera.

613
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: But I think you got Rudolph for that, you know, Like,

614
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: if you don't take one this year at all, I understand,

615
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I want one that could maybe

616
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: be a guy. And okay, let's say you take McCord

617
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: in the fourth he'd have to have a Dak Prescott

618
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: rookie year, yeah, which I don't even know how he

619
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: sees a field. You know what I mean, he'd have

620
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: to blow your doors away to not to change your

621
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: quarterback outlook. I think yeah.

622
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: Mark Miller asked if Rogers wasn't an option, who would

623
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: you choose car Cousins other or roll with Mason in

624
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: a mid round?

625
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: Pick the door number D is my last children. Yeah,

626
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: and I understand it. You'd have a ton of caps

627
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: face and I don't think he'd embarrassed himself. That's not

628
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: a knock on Mason, and it wouldn't be somebody else

629
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: would be in the room. Two other guys would be

630
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: Carver's cousins. Is a question to me. I don't know.

631
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: I have my cousins played better than people think. I

632
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: have my doubts how wellhood hold up for seventeen games.

633
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem I have with Cousins. I just

634
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: don't know that he's gonna last seventeen games. He just

635
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: he didn't have prime mobility ever before the injury. He

636
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: really doesn't have it now.

637
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: No, and I do think he'd get the ball out

638
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: on time better and the wine would look better than

639
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: it did this past year. But at some point his

640
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: high points are still pretty strong. You can win games,

641
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: I was the car was a little underrated. He just

642
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: doesn't move the needle a ton. Yeah, and I don't

643
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: think he'd be real expensive to get. But he's also

644
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: not a real risk taker either. I mean, I could

645
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: make the argument that those guys aren't a ton different

646
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: than what you played with this past year in terms

647
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: of quality. I'd rather just roll the dice and see

648
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: Rogers what he might be. And part of that's just

649
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: for my viewing pleasure as a fails because it could

650
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: be crazy.

651
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I get what he's saying here. Yeah,

652
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: I know, is Mason Rudolph all that much different than

653
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: kar and Cousins would.

654
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: And one of them's cheaper and right?

655
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And everybody waxes poetically about the or romantically about

656
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: the you know, the three games he started at the

657
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: end of and they were good, and he was he

658
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: was good. He was better than what they were playing

659
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: with before that. He's willing to throw the ball down

660
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: the field, he was willing to do some of these things.

661
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: But it still ended up with you getting beat in

662
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: the first round of the playoffs, you.

663
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Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, which I don't know that Rogers can get

664
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: you over that hump. Poor car or Cousins if you

665
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: have to go into Buffalo or whatever.

666
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: But I'll chances with them again. It's it's like playing,

667
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: let's make a deal. I know where this path leads me.

668
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: I'll take door number two and take my chances and

669
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: see where this wing.

670
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: Goes Me too, Me too. I would much rather roll

671
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: the dice with Cousins, Car Rogers than Rudolph to win

672
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: a player.

673
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: Only problem was is that Car and Cousins don't exactly

674
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: have a stellar no track record.

675
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: They don't have m vps and rings and wins, right right,

676
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: I know, I mean the options aren't great. We knew

677
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: that with them the second the season, and I don't

678
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: think Fields would have got you any different or Wilson,

679
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: to be honest with you.

680
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Beck Burg. Bets Burg asked where would Troy Filtanou rank

681
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: in this year's offensive tackle class. Well, we answered that

682
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: during the combine he'd be number one.

683
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: He's number one for me.

684
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be number one. And that's not just

685
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: us saying that. That's you look at the grading systems

686
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: that are out there. He would be the number one

687
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: tackle in this year's draft.

688
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: Membo and Campbell might be guards when it's all said, Andetan,

689
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: who is way better length than those guys and.

690
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Every bit extreme Lengo. Yeah, and he's taller than them. Yeah,

691
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: he's got he's got better length.

692
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: He's just as he had some he had some of

693
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: these stuff though, right, yeah, I mean I don't think

694
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: that he has this.

695
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: None of guys, none of these guys are one.

696
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: I don't think he had red flags though. Come now,

697
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he fell because of medical

698
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: didn't fall. It was just it was just awesome, awesome

699
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: tackle class.

700
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was the shortest of the group, and

701
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: that's when people say, well, maybe he's a guard because

702
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: he was six four instead of six to six.

703
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: And frankly, Latham would be one, Alt would be one.

704
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: I mean, like he's not the only one of the

705
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: last all.

706
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: Five of those guys that went early last year with

707
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: number one. But maybe yeah, right, Matthew says, no question.

708
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: Just really enjoy the show. We appreciate that, Matthew.

709
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: We'll tell you did time in anything?

710
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: Did you do that one?

711
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: That was when I was getting coffee last time.

712
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Let's get the one when we're here before we get

713
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: to break, and we'll finish up the rest of these

714
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: questions coming back, Brad Prentis says, tinfoil hat time, I

715
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: know you love these Is it plausible that the Steelers

716
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: are eyeing the twenty sixth draft as the early as

717
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: early as last summer for quarterback, knowing Daniels and Moore

718
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: would leave and bring two comps. They also planned on

719
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 2: losing Russ and Justin for third third round compensatories. Well,

720
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna get those. Is that maybe

721
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: why they didn't pick up the option on Nausey? Yeah,

722
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see them thinking that they made

723
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: I was going to say the opposite. I don't think

724
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: that was the case at all. I think if I

725
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: read the question again, their idea and I heard this

726
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: from people, if Russell Wilson or Justin Fields were awesome

727
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: last year, oh.

728
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: They would be they would be gone.

729
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would assigned them to a contract extension.

730
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: Okay, see I kind of didn't.

731
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: They didn't go into this season they you have this

732
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: in your in your hip pocket, knowing that if these

733
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: guys leave, you're gonna get compensatory picks back.

734
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: That's where I was going with it is.

735
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: But that wasn't the plan, Like, oh, we can just

736
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: do this and we're just gonna let these guys leave

737
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: and get these compensatory picks, because again, twenty twenty six

738
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: is a great quarterback. Nobody knows what the twenty twenty

739
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: six for.

740
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: That's what I say too. I'm like, no way were

741
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: they saying that's the year we have to target a quarterback.

742
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: But there is a big plan in place. Contrary to

743
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: popular belief that Steelers have a plan. I was at

744
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: that all the time. This team has no plan, especially

745
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: quarterback position. Yeah, they're just rolling the dice and opening.

746
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: Good things happen. But part of the plan is they're

747
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: putting money in the bank with comppicks and I think

748
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: Omar is very conscious of that. And it was hard

749
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: to do in year one and who because you didn't

750
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: have the Dan Moore that you knew was leaving because

751
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: you drafted the two tackles, you know what I mean?

752
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: Like, that's part of I bet means they knew Daniels,

753
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: they knew Daniels and more were leaving. Yeah, yeah, Now

754
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: they didn't know what those guys were gonna get paid

755
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 2: on the open markets. Of course, nobody knows. You don't

756
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: know what that market's gonna look like until they Actually

757
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: I was thinking, I can remember we talked about it

758
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: before the season. Well when Dan Morley's he's gonna get

759
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: more money than people think it. Yeah, I'm thinking fifteen.

760
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: I was saying twelve right, exactly, like decent buck and

761
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: maybe get a fourth or fifth Ron compick out of it.

762
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: But where I was going with it is I bet

763
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: one year ago in their draft room, Omar or someone says,

764
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: if we take one of these tackles, not only we

765
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: can get a guy we like, but it's gonna also

766
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: give us a little cherry on top. In two years.

767
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: They're aware of this stuff. Yeah, and say with nausey,

768
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: if we don't pick this up, someone's gonna pay him.

769
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: We'll draft the back. They don't know if this is

770
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 3: even a good running back.

771
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: And the thing with nause and that option we give you,

772
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: we've gone over the option stuff with this. Not only

773
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: are you guaranteeing that last year of the deal right

774
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: at seven million dollars, you're essentially guaranteeing both years of

775
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: the deal at the running.

776
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: Back position exactly.

777
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: And unless that guy is Saquon Barkley or Christian McCaffrey.

778
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just way even talking about nause is

779
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: when the twenty twenty four season ended. All right, what's

780
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: our team building philosophy? Okay, well, if he leaves, somebody's

781
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: going to pay him more than five million, and that

782
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: we're going to get a pick back. They're very aware

783
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 3: of the company.

784
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: He mentions five different guys here, you can only get

785
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: four compensatory picks, right, right, So all those guys leaving

786
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: doesn't factor into this. Four of them does, right, And

787
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: it just so happens that you know, Daniel's more, Russell

788
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: and Justin are the guys that you're gonna get. You're

789
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: not getting a compick back now from Nagie Harris, You're.

790
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: Not right, right, right?

791
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: His deal doesn't even factor into this. A. It was

792
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: a one year deal. It wasn't that much money.

793
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: It was not a huge contract. Yeah no, but I

794
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: just think they'll be more comp pick aware than they

795
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: have been. I very much believe that to be well.

796
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: I think I think all teams are doing that.

797
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: That's why you're seeing guys signed to one years and

798
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: two year deals because everybody wants to get into that game.

799
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a really untapped market or

800
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: not on taped market, but I think you can really

801
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: do well.

802
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: I think it was last week at this time I

803
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: went through and countered that the three or the four

804
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: and five year deals given out, which is where you're

805
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: really scoring in the comp picks, and there were only

806
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: eight in the entire NFL.

807
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, remember it's going over.

808
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: That was like a week ago, So you know, I

809
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: just think everybody's more cognizant of that comp pick game.

810
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 2: The quarterbacks are always going to be They're like offensive

811
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: offensive linement and quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah, those guys are going

812
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: to be valued more than the.

813
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: Beauty of never a terrible idea to grab one on

814
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: the cheap, you know what I mean. Like weird example,

815
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: like let's say they fall into a guard in training

816
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: camp and they're like, man, someone has offered us a

817
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: six round pick for seem all that sounds great. Or

818
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: you can have on the team for a year and

819
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: he might give you a fourth round pick right when

820
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: in my open market, my James Daniels.

821
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: Somebody might give him twelve million dollars a year next

822
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: year a ten million, Like James Daniels got what three

823
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: years twenty four million?

824
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: That you'll do a nice pick, Yeah, right, it's a year.

825
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: You gotta wait. But so what as we saw it

826
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: the year before.

827
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: We saw this in past season when we were trading

828
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: offensive lineman and training camp.

829
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: No, they needed all those guys exactly, exactly right. I

830
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: mean if they also are going down, then you're the

831
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: one calling and then you're in trouble.

832
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're trading picks away to get somebody else's

833
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: seventh offensive line.

834
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: I want to keep drafting them. Yeah, I just keep

835
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: drafting them. There's a shortage.

836
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. We'll get back to

837
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: more questions when we return. He is Matt Williamson. I

838
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: am Dale Lolly. This is the Drive on the Steelers

839
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with more

840
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844
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,440
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845
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, the owner of his very own hot dog roller.

846
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were saying is opening day, I should have

847
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: busted out the hot dog roller. Anyways, let's get it

848
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Speaker 3: into the drive. I have it sitting right here, just spinning.

849
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the Twitter questions here before we

850
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: run out of time. R J. Porrier asked, who are

851
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: your top three or third round or later running backs?

852
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: Assuming the Steelers take one in the third round. As

853
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: we sit here with today's current picks.

854
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna put Johnson in that mix with the

855
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: Ohio State guys.

856
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if they make it that far. The

857
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: eighty three.

858
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 3: Scattabo Martinez come to mind.

859
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan James is a guy that has so Yeah,

860
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: even though he didn't run super well.

861
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: But I like to see sea player. There's so many

862
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: of those backs like Kiren Williams, a test poor that

863
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 3: they're good players.

864
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Jark West Hunter is a good player.

865
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I still have an eye on Tootin and Samson,

866
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: I mean just because of their explosiveness. Yeah, teach them

867
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 3: not to fumble, especially tooting Martinez, would be my short answer.

868
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: I think I think so too, Yeah, I think so.

869
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: It could be a really good Steeler fourth round. Yeah.

870
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: Cola Chris seventy six. Ass If Nolan, Harmon, and Grant

871
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: are all drafted by the time the Steelers pick a

872
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: twenty one, would you pivot the cornerback or look the

873
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: trade down towards the end of the first round and

874
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: possibly take one of the Ohio state running backs.

875
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: A nightmare scenario for me.

876
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: Well, if for those all three of those guys to

877
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: go earlier, somebody else is falling that you would think.

878
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: Somebody somebody would call somebody want to come.

879
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Up and get Will Johnson still there or an edge

880
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: rusher Johnny Baron or edge rush or something like that. Yeah.

881
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's real easy to There's not

882
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: much time, but it's real easy out. We'll trade down.

883
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: I don't know who's trading up and necessarily, but there

884
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: would be somebody odd there Loveland or Warren or you know. Yeah, yeah,

885
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: they'd be like, okay, I could use that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Baron,

886
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: you know.

887
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: Andrew Kudokowski asked if the Steelers don't draft a defensive

888
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: lineman in round one, what position do you think is

889
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: most likely? Running back?

890
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: Hampton? Yeah, I think that'd be the name. If it

891
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 3: was don even position. If they said what name would

892
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: you say? I would say Hampton? Yeah, maybe Baron? Yeah,

893
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: I bet they have a high grade on him.

894
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of like yeah, Steeler chick Pittsburgh PGHS.

895
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: Do you know why the Steelers are still waiting for

896
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and why Rogers won't make his decision? Is

897
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph starter material?

898
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: Well, they have more information on the situation than we do.

899
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: If anybody knows what's going through the mind of Aaron Rodgers,

900
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: please inform the rest of the world, because nobody knows.

901
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: The Steelers might I'm.

902
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Sure they Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson didn't wait all this

903
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: time on the Steelers to then suddenly this week go okay,

904
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to go some of the giant right, Yeah,

905
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: I mean somebody told him something.

906
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: I think there's this crazy misconception that Rogers is holding

907
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: the strings up here and he's just dangling the Steelers

908
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: along for the ride, and they have no thoughts or

909
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: any input in this situation.

910
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't think that he did case he didn't fly

911
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: across the country, spend six hours here and then fly

912
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: back across the country. If he wasn't intent on playing football.

913
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: And if something crazy like he went through the vikings,

914
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't think the Steelers got played or anything. I mean,

915
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: like they're on top of the situation.

916
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: Chris Maskwell, Maxwell asked Tomlin motto that he would rather

917
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: have volunteers instead of hostages. The Steelers are playing the

918
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: comp game hypothetical. If Pickens comes in disgruntled, does Tomlin

919
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: change his stance? And do you guys think that players

920
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: take advantage of this if they want out?

921
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: I think it could be a slippery slope in sports

922
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: in general when someone's like, I'm not happy here, I

923
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: want to trade, and then the guy next one's like,

924
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Steelers this organization stinks. I want

925
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: to trade too.

926
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: You know, you draw the line when when you when

927
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin says that, think about who he has said

928
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: that about over the years. They haven't been starters, right,

929
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: They've been depth pieces, backup guys, Melvin ingram Le, Garrett Blunt, Like,

930
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: these are not foundational guys.

931
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: These are These are bench players.

932
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: Even James Harrison at the end at the end, right, Like,

933
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: these are.

934
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: Guys James after defensive MVP.

935
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, these weren't starting players. So you have different You

936
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: say we rather volunteers a set of hostages, but you're

937
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: talking about.

938
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: Different at ab No when he was the first picking

939
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 3: fantasy drafts. Yeah, right, I mean Jimmy Johnson said it best.

940
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you have different roles for different guys. Michael

941
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: Irvin could be late to the meeting, but the fifty

942
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: third guy in the roster can't.

943
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: Who was the pit running back who fell asleep in

944
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: the meeting and they cut him immediately?

945
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't Tony Dot It wasn't.

946
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: Tony dor Set. You're right, that was kind of my point. Yeah,

947
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: who do you want the Steelers to take at quarterback

948
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: next year if they don't take one this year?

949
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

950
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Hagersberg, Right, Uh, there's a whole

951
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: lot of football to be played next year.

952
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: I know Lsu is not sa Meyer, and you know

953
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: Penn State's got a guy.

954
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: I don't like the Penn State quarterback at all.

955
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: I've hardly watched him. Yeah, I'm not that far ahead though.

956
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: Archie Wilson asked, when you look at the roster outside

957
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: of what Hayward and Fitzpatrick, who are the potential cornerstones?

958
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: Is the franchise in your mind? Joey Porter Junior comes

959
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: to mind? Who comes to mind?

960
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: Fraser is already there?

961
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you've got some guys. Uh, they didn't

962
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: trade for DK Metcalf and pay him. He still counts

963
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: even a lot of money, those guys. He's still only

964
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Like you're gonna get three or four years

965
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: out of them.

966
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: You get pickings going down the right road, and everybody's

967
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, there's no question he could be that guy.

968
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah Benton. Yeah, I mean this time next year we

969
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: might be like, oh, Benton's one of those guys. Yeah, right,

970
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: you know, rejecting a little but yeah. Uh and jp

971
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: P like a friar mooth still counts. Yeah.

972
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a franchise cornerstone, but.

973
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: He's not a great football player. Yeah, I mean he's

974
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: a building block.

975
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously on whether Rogers signs but says he does,

976
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: but say he does. I've been seeing heavy offensive line,

977
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: defensive line. I still think this, with this running back

978
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: heavy class, it's needed to take or to trade back

979
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: and gain capital and take one of these running backs

980
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: with the first three picks, maybe double dip later on thoughts, Well,

981
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: we've done that quite a bit when we've done our

982
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: mock drafts.

983
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: Where this is coming from is when I really went

984
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: on this four lineman kick, I posted a mock draft

985
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: that didn't have a running back. Now. We've done eight

986
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: thousand mock drafts and a lot of take a running back.

987
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: And my preface was sign JK. Dobbins right now. And

988
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: I did it on purpose because the world would keep

989
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: spinning if you out. But ninety nine out of one

990
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 3: hundred times they're going to take a run.

991
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: I think you just wait. First off, if you signed JK.

992
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: Dobbins now, now that affects your comp form.

993
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you might have it.

994
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: Wait until after the draft. There's gonna be guys.

995
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: Available, and it could be Nick Chubb, it could be Dobbins,

996
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: it could be anyone guys.

997
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: After the Yeah, yeah, after the draft when somebody we

998
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: didn't expect to take a running back here, but here

999
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: he is. And I don't need Miles Sanders anymore.

1000
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: And I got a ton of blowback, like why would

1001
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: you sign JK. Dobbins. He's injury playing prone, like he

1002
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: would cost I think, yea, yeah, I mean you could

1003
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: cut him before Camps.

1004
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: Played for the Chargers last year for like three million, right,

1005
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: that's you're gonna get that much more than that. It

1006
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: might came because of the injury history.

1007
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: Exactly, and he was good. If you get eight games

1008
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: out of them. Fine, I mean these aren't even like

1009
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 3: real investments. Yeah.

1010
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: So anyways, that's it for the Twitter questions there. That's

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Speaker 2: all we have time for because we're at the end

1012
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Speaker 2: of the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on one to do.

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Speaker 2: This again next Thursday. It's always good to hear from

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Speaker 2: our public and what's on their minds, and they think

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Speaker 2: of some things that we don't think of here to

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Speaker 2: talk about. But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin

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Speaker 2: Miller here on site running the Justin Miller hotline and

1019
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Speaker 2: making sure the video gets out there onto YouTube give

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Speaker 2: us the thumbs up there. I am Dale, Lolly. We

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