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Speaker 3: some of them. But first, guy, it's been a minute.

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Speaker 3: We got a Leggie Weggie number thirteen, Lucky number thirteen

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Speaker 3: that he went he called it a boink. No, nobody

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Speaker 3: He couldn't stop laughing at that shot.

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Speaker 2: It was enjoyable to listen to Jason Tatum forty two

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Speaker 2: big points that we'll talk about one day. Guys, one

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Speaker 2: him in a box score which reads, a Weggie did

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Speaker 2: someone someone will say, you know, you know really popularized that. No,

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Speaker 2: those no dunks, the starters, the basketball jones. Dudes, those

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I think the only thing that could make

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Speaker 2: then they'll you know, they'll they'll drop one very soon.

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Speaker 2: But Jason Tatum's forty two just reminded me of what

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Speaker 2: But they absolutely have not. And I'm not reading into

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown did return ley last night. I think he

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Speaker 3: a bunch of threes. Okay, let's keep it going here.

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00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 3: You'll Kitch demolishes the Wizards. Another monster line from him,

433
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 3: but he gets injected here in a close win and

434
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 3: nu he's pulled out. Uh but Trey, I mean start

435
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 3: with that, please be what'd you think of this toss

436
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 3: where he got teed quickly from two different refs. Yeah,

437
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 3: bal Yeah, this.

438
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,719
Speaker 1: Tough break for Yokic because on the play that he

439
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: was upset about, he got knead in the nuts and

440
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 1: then elbowed in the face.

441
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, you have.

442
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 5: Two valid complaints there. I don't know which one is worse.

443
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: I think I think I'd rather get knead in the

444
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 1: nuts than get hit in the face personally, I don't

445
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 1: know why, but uh, yeah, it's a tough call.

446
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 5: I don't know.

447
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 1: It seemed like he could have just gotten one technical

448
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: in this scenario, right, Like he gets one for yelling

449
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: at the ref on one side and then he starts

450
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: yelling I guess, and you know he changes his tact

451
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: to who he's yelling at. So Tony Brothers gets ejected

452
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: and gives him the toss. Nonetheless, an MVP performance from Jokic,

453
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: But if you like round numbers, you're gonna hate his

454
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: box score twenty eight points, nine assists, nineteen rebounds, a

455
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: near thirty twenty ten, but instead denied a beef because

456
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: the beef inspectors had those high standards. Things did get

457
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: interesting though, after Jokic was ejected. The Nuggets were up

458
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 1: huge in this one. They got up by thirty three,

459
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: I think was their biggest lead. Wizards brought it back

460
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: to single digits with about three minutes remaining. They hit

461
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: nine threes in the second half. That's a bit of

462
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: an equalizer there. But Lee, what a free throws do

463
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 1: win games?

464
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 5: Seven?

465
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: Seven?

466
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: From the line?

467
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: Are you there?

468
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 3: Well?

469
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I did? What you would you say? Practice?

470
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 2: You?

471
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 4: You know, I say, practice your free throws?

472
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he only has one life throw, right, you

473
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: don't ask him to DEVI eight from that life?

474
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: What a free throws do?

475
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: Yet?

476
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: Practice went seven to seven from the line in the

477
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: fourth quarter to close it out. Aaron Gordon had a

478
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: nice game fourteen in the first half, had sick Windmill

479
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: only had two points though in the second half, but

480
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: they were a big two. Crossed up Daniel Gafford for

481
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: a dunk, sent him to the floor, dunked it on

482
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: and put the Nuggets up ten with about a minute left.

483
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: Monte Morris twenty two points, five assists. He's been playing

484
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: really well lately. And Facundo Compazo a straight up highlight

485
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: machine last night. I don't know if you guys saw

486
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: every one of them, but it was like behind the

487
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: back passes. He threw an over the head pass. He

488
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: had something called an underhand slinger on the broadcast. He

489
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: threw a tip pass to himself. I think like they

490
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: threw him a pass in the corner. He tipped it

491
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: over the defender, caught it through behind the back dish

492
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: to jokis there in the lane. The Nuggets broadcasters even

493
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: hit him with a Roy Kent ted lasso chant on

494
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: the broadcast.

495
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: He's here, He's there, Faku is everything.

496
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 5: This is when they were building a thirty three point lead.

497
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: They're having some fun out there. It did get close.

498
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: In the end after the fake comeback by the Wizards,

499
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: but a nice win for the Nuggets. Would have been

500
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: cool to see Jokic get to some zero's there on

501
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: the scoreboard. But man, the guy was dominant. He put

502
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: up twenty eight nine and nineteen and thirty one minutes.

503
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: That could have been an even bigger box score if

504
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: he got the full allotment of points. But great stuff from.

505
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: Him Oh yeah, I mean he deserved of course, the

506
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: first technical where you know he's very upset and he's

507
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: from the official is right beside him, and I'm sure

508
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 3: whatever he's swearing or he's very upset. But then he turns,

509
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 3: like you said to Tony Brothers who's on the other

510
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: side of the court, and it's just, I mean, task,

511
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: you're great at reading lips. It sure looks like he

512
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: just says something along the lines of like call the

513
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: foul on that end where he had taken the knee

514
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: from Spencer Dinwitty and hitting the faith. That was it,

515
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: Like he I mean, that's all he said to Tony Brothers,

516
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: And Tony was like, no, I don't want to see

517
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 3: a big beef on no dungks tomorrow. Get the hell

518
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: out of here. I don't want to hear the music.

519
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 3: That's this guy's the MVP of the league, the reigning

520
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 3: MVP if you check basketball references, MVP award dragger. He

521
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: jumped Kurry and Yannis last night too. I don't know

522
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: if that's a part of the Nuggets going over five hundred.

523
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: Obviously a monster line and he's putting up huge deaths,

524
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: but that's this is crazy like that that. I mean,

525
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: Tony Brothers should be I don't know, you're out there serious.

526
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: Well, it was strange to see that, But it's at

527
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: a point in the game where I think Tony Brothers

528
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: maybe factoring in what Jokic has done over the last

529
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: twelve months in games. He had the body check with Morris,

530
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: he had the karate chop with campaign on his face,

531
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: and so I think, yeah, at this at that point

532
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: of the game, he just maybe have Tony Brothers has said,

533
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: we don't want you to get a little too hot

534
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: and heavy, see you later. I think I think, in.

535
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: Fact, I think this was reputation tossed.

536
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: A tiny bit come by. Listen. Of course, he did

537
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: not deserve to be tossed, but if you, yeah, look

538
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: at the circumstance of the game. It's an eighteen point lead,

539
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: the game's over. I mean, they could have came back,

540
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: there was six minutes left in the game. But yeah,

541
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he facted Tony Brothers factor, and maybe

542
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: Tony Brothers was just not having a great day. But also, yeah,

543
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: the guy, the guy who he's tossing, has been in

544
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 2: the headlines or has been in the stories for you know,

545
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: having a whatever you want to call it a Yokic

546
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: temper or whatever. It wasn't his fault. Yoa should not

547
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: have been tossed. But yeah, I think that's part of it.

548
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: Jokic has been making headlines for those reasons. Yeah, a

549
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: lot in the last calendar years. As we said, when

550
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: was when was the campaign? Yeah it was playoffs twenty one?

551
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was like last week, Yeah it was. Yeah, Lee,

552
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: what do you think of Jokich? Here the monster numbers

553
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: he's putting up, getting the Nuggets over five hundred, Like

554
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: I said, a thirty percent chance according to Basketball Reference,

555
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: to win another MVP. But then in addition to being

556
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: tossed last night, I mean, I don't know this. If

557
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: this is Lebron, if this is Curry, this is this

558
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: gets more headlines in my opinion. And I know they

559
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: win the games, what ultimately doesn't matter. But you said it,

560
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 3: tho Zards are close. They they If they pull up

561
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: this game, then holy crap, this is maybe a bigger story,

562
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: but they obviously didn't.

563
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, look, he had a right to be upset,

564
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: and Spencer Dinwood he actually got Fuku as well with

565
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 4: a with a little pop to the George just before that,

566
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: So I like didn't think a guy isn't deliberately trying

567
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: to whack another guy and the nuts are in the mouth.

568
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 4: But Spencer kind of was aggressive last night, and I

569
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: think that Jokich just was kind of like, come on,

570
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 4: you've got to call one of those, Like he didn't

571
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: deserve to get thrown out, but he sort of also

572
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 4: insisted on getting thrown out by keeping on going there,

573
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like players do that. They're like,

574
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he just.

575
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: I think you deserve like the quick second teat when

576
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: you go at the referee, you approached the referee. Yeah,

577
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: he probably dropped some exploitives. He did none of that, but.

578
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: He got the first team and then he kept maybe.

579
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: He got the first team called him the hold back

580
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: there he pointed, and I think brothers probably sell the point. Well,

581
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: you got your point at twenty ros.

582
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did take a couple of steps toward him.

583
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: Well, was coming to the sidelines to step to him.

584
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if he if.

585
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 6: He didn't out here, if he didn't swear at him,

586
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 6: then then no, and even if he did at him,

587
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 6: you know, like because also there was that play where

588
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 6: they where like Spencer Din where they sort of got

589
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 6: their arms tangled up there as well, So he was

590
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: just kind of pissed off about that.

591
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: But I do think though there is some you know,

592
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 4: reputation involved here that that Jokich can at times be

593
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: a bit of a hothead, and I think he does

594
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: need to just be careful. Now didn't cost him in

595
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 4: this game. In the playoffs, that game was pretty much

596
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 4: over anyway and the Heat won. He was provoked, but

597
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: you know, you've got to make sure that the guy

598
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: doesn't lose his cool because if teams can see, they

599
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: can provoke him a little bit and he can react.

600
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: So that's all. But he didn't deserve it. No, he

601
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: didn't deserve it last night. But I like what Sam,

602
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: you know, no says he here? What would another beef

603
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 4: b Tony Brothers versus the Jokich brothers. Wow.

604
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: I thought he was talking to the other referee and said,

605
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: come on, make the call, brother, and the brother said

606
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: he's talking.

607
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: To who's on first situation. Yeah, I don't think he

608
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: deserved to be ticey. You guys are saying the exact

609
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: same thing. I think Tony Brothers reacting there. He's allowed

610
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: to tell you come on, I'm just called on the

611
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: other end.

612
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe listen, you're a bit of a temper boy, Skates,

613
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: maybe you just love another temper boy. Well, I mean

614
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: he's cool with another temper boy, you'll get lost.

615
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: He got even the nuts hit in the face. He's

616
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of emotional about that. Yeah, you know.

617
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: And again he got his tee or it was fine,

618
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: and he did nothing else. He didn't run out Tony Brothers.

619
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: He didn't even swear at him. Like I pointed out here,

620
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: you're allowed to say. Can you call it? On the

621
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: other end, we see that one hundred times the game,

622
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: and he's the MVP, Like you say, it's the reputation

623
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: for being a temper boy. I hear what you guys

624
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: are saying. And MVP of the league.

625
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like the game was over as well.

626
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't. But anyway, this Wizard, this Wizard's team,

627
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: somebody's got to pluck one of these players from this team, right,

628
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow? And I know you don't. Later on, we've

629
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: got seven teams. You've gotten the net segment skeets. I

630
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: know the Wizards aren't one of them, but they've got

631
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: all this collection of players that they got from Russell

632
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook. Now that they've come back Wessell Westbrook. Now

633
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: that they've come back to Earth and they're just sort

634
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: of a middling team again, at some point, you've got

635
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: to trade some of these guys. It feels like, you know,

636
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: Coentavious Caldwell Pope is to the Lakers, they would they

637
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: would he would be their best perimeter defender in alhad Yeah,

638
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: they're in a high demand. I mean, didn't he lead

639
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: the Lakers in playoff threes when they won the championship?

640
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: He did, He had more threes than Lebron. I don't know.

641
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: It just feels like one of these guys is going

642
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: to be attainable. Like if you can't get some of

643
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: the big names, then maybe you shop with the with

644
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: the Washington Wizards. But anyways, yeah, I got trades onto Brains.

645
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah you do. They definitely uh come back to Earth here,

646
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: haven't they? The Wizards after a very hot start sort

647
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: of looking mediocre here. Now, let's keep it going with

648
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: some of the other games. Love Kevin Love, Yeah, score

649
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: twenty three in the second half wild as the Calves

650
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: beat the Heat one oh five to ninety four. Now

651
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: Miami without Bam, without Jimmy, but still the Calves. Tass

652
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: had them. He broke down the tiers of the Eastern Conference. Hey,

653
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: the Calves are high. Would you hung tier three? Is

654
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: that right?

655
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: Top of tier three? At the very very top there.

656
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going crazy. I'm not putting them in tier

657
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: two with the balls in the heat, but they're knocking

658
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: on that door. I think they could pass the Milwaukee

659
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: Bucks in the Eastern Conference standings in the very near future. Yeah, real, legitimate,

660
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: It's wild.

661
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: What do you think of the game, Lely? What were

662
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: your notes?

663
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Speaker 4: Well, that's the other thing, is I love Yesterday I

664
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: was talking about how Kevin Love just looks happy out there,

665
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: and he's playing really well coming off the bench, and

666
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: then in that second half he comes out hits the

667
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: five threes, has twenty three points. And this was a

668
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: little bit closer. I mean, they hung into this. They

669
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: rarely sort of get pounded Miami no matter how shorthanded

670
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: they are, and they work close enough, but Kevin Love

671
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: really separated, especially in that third quarter. I thought he

672
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: was just fantastic, and just look at how happy that

673
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: bench was as well. They're so joyous playing with each

674
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: other and it was just an incredible game to watch

675
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: from that. Now, how many all stars is the real

676
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: question here for the Cleveland companies.

677
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: They're getting one.

678
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: They getting one.

679
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: It's Jared Allen's conversation.

680
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: Okay, it probably is Jared Allen, but again based on

681
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: a game like last night, they get contributions from everybody

682
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: and they go about eight or nine deep, and you know,

683
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: it was love last night and other nights it's like

684
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: guys like Jenny Osmond and Rubio with his running dirks

685
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: that he does in the lane there, which is just

686
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: an incredible shot, so much fun to watch. The only

687
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: real problem they have is Darius Garland. Some of these

688
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: interior passes he makes, he flings him in there with

689
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: the left hand. Their high risk, low return if he

690
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: gets them to go there. Okay, but there are a

691
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: couple of times there it's like, you don't need to

692
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 4: make that pass. But also Austin Carr, one of the

693
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: most underrated color guys on the sideline, He's got that

694
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: three laugh every time something funny happens, like last night,

695
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: Tyler Herod.

696
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: I've said it before. It reminds me of the doctor

697
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: on the Simpsons. Oh yeah, I forget the game. I

698
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: know who care? He laughed, like after everything that's.

699
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: And Tyler Hero last night Airport one. Oh it looks

700
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: like the basket moved on him and he had a

701
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: couple of those. But yeah, look this Caves team right now,

702
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: doctor Hebbertt, by the way, doctor Heibbertt.

703
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Doctor Roy Hebritt.

704
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: They are one of the just most surprising best stories

705
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: because they're a fun group to watch and and you know,

706
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: again talking about trade season, Kevin Love is providing them

707
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: with a really good problem to have. I honestly think

708
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: right now they hang on to him because they're doing

709
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: way better than they thought, and to have his veteran

710
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: presence coming off the bench contributing like he is, I

711
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: don't think you break that up right now. I think

712
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: I think the Calves, even though they might be ahead

713
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 4: of schedule, they could be like, let's just write this

714
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: thing out. They've come this far with Kevin Love, why

715
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: not keep it going. You know, because he and Rubio

716
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 4: that experience, you know, their former teammates. They're just playing

717
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: so well for them. So this was a great fun

718
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: game to watch. Kyle Lowry was great. He absolutely snapped

719
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: Lowry Markin's ankles there for a while, hit some threes

720
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: and PJ. Tucker wound back the clock. But that was

721
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: actually the problem for the hate that was their offense

722
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 4: was the two old guys didn't get a whole lot

723
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: ouse out of anybody else.

724
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: Other games last night, I'll just rip them off here

725
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: and if you want to touch on any have at it.

726
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: We had the Rockets coming back rallying to beat the Hawks.

727
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: This was a surprising victory, one thirty two, one to

728
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: twenty six. Raptors used a seventy point first half to

729
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: crush the Kings one twenty four to one to one

730
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: Brooks and Jackson. They led the Grizzlies, who continued to

731
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: win without John Morant, to the one twenty six to

732
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: ninety one blowout over the seventy six ers. KP. Porzingis Lee,

733
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: how many emails are you going to get from that

734
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: Porzingis fan today? He led the Luca less lat MAVs

735
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: to the one twenty ninety six route of the Hornets,

736
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: and then the Clippers beat the Suns one eleven ninety

737
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: five in a rematch of the twenty twenty one West Finals.

738
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to touch on the Raptors playing the Kings.

739
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of that one. Yeah, I mean,

740
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: this was a nice victory for Toronto. It's nice playing

741
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: the Kings sometimes, isn't it?

742
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Really?

743
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: It gets your confidence back up. Toronto made a season

744
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: best fifty three field goals and set a season high

745
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: with twenty eight assists. He had ninet different players for

746
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: the Raps scoring ten or more points. Utah Watsonabi had

747
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: twelve and ten first career double double. He was great,

748
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: and we get after the game gentry saying players held

749
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: a closed door meeting. Oh another players only meeting, baby

750
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: from from the Kings. Not that it does anything, uh,

751
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: just wild stuff. Ziller in his newsletter, though, he brought

752
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: up Scottie Barnes having five blocks in this game for

753
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 3: the Raptors, and he said, is he our new best

754
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: hope for the five by five? And he said, word

755
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 3: to Gerald Wallace and Andre Kierlinko. This is funny timing.

756
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: I thought. Ziller pointed this out because I said the

757
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: other day here on our show, hmm, maybe Evan Momley,

758
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: the Cavs rookie, is a best five by five candidate.

759
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 3: Who's gonna get to it? First in these two guys careers,

760
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: because I just checked the box scorers. Scotty's closest five

761
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 3: by five game this season. These guys are rookies, so

762
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: they played like you know whatever, twenty to thirty games

763
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: he had nineteen points, seven boards, three assists, two steals,

764
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: and four blocks. And then Mobly his best five by

765
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: five games seventeen to eleven, four assists, one steel and

766
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: four blocks. I think it's likely one of these guys,

767
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: if not both, these guys, will at some point in

768
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: their career get one or two of these five by

769
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: fives because they're you know, they can do a little

770
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: bit of everything tasks. Is that far fetched?

771
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Scottie Barnes blocks yesterday was They weren't of

772
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: the tip variety. They were of the absolute sexiest blocks

773
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: that you can get variety, those blocks that are just

774
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 2: about to go in, just about to hit the glass

775
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: and then he pins them. Three of them were basket

776
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: saving blocks right at the rim. They were gorgeous. You

777
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: bring up Mobiley in the same sentence, and it's hard

778
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: for me to distinguish what Scotty Barnes is. Who the

779
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: heck notes Is he a big like Evan Mobley. I

780
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: don't know. He's both like defensively he is, he can

781
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: do it all, but I don't know. I think he'll

782
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: get there first because he's more of a perimeter guy

783
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: and can block shots if you're talking five by fives.

784
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: But that was amazing to watch this Raptors team. They're

785
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: on a streak, baby. They've won two games in a row.

786
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: That's their third win streak of the season. I don't

787
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: care if I don't care if two wins that you

788
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: don't call it a streak like we did in the

789
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: starter's office. We called that a patch or whatever the

790
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: hell we called it, because because the streak is that

791
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: two games. Who cares. The Raptors are playing their best

792
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: ball the season. I know it's against the Sacramento Kings.

793
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

794
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: They killed the Kings the first time in Sacramento. Two

795
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: days later they fired Alvin Gentry. I'm sorry. They've they've

796
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: they fired uh Luke Walton and now after this one,

797
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: after the Raptors destroy them again. A closed door players meeting.

798
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: Of course, it's closed door. When would you ever have

799
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: an open door players meeting? I think that's a little redundant.

800
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: It's just a player's only meeting. But that was that

801
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: was a blast to watch. And you mentioned Utah Watson

802
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: Abbi his first double double. I loved his comment after

803
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: the game. He said, to be honest with you, I'm

804
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: very proud of myself. Oh yeah, what a great line.

805
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: Eric kre and our friend there with the with the

806
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: tweet from Utah. Dude, that guy. That guy just plays

807
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: the game and it's helps you know those type of guys.

808
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: Utah playing really well. Mal I Flynn alive in the

809
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, scoring and scoring and scoring. Yeah, the Raptors

810
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: are streaking, baby.

811
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: Any of those any of those other games, but a

812
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: little b that you'd like to touch on their lease. See,

813
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: this is what happens when somebody says Wessell Westbrook. Trey said,

814
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: what the funny? It's contagious. Yeah, but any of the

815
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: other games you wanted to touch on?

816
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: Well, the Hawks absolutely later clunker in that fourth quarter

817
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 4: against the Rockets. Eric Gordon and DJ Augustine believe it

818
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: or DJ Augustine's still in the league. I can't believe that.

819
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 4: I heard. Eric Gordon was once the leading fourth quarter

820
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: score at the NBA and finished with I think he

821
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: only had ten in the fourth quarter. But thirty two

822
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: for the game, so he is certainly auditioning for a bitter.

823
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: Save it, least save it keets in a second.

824
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's a stinker of a loss there for

825
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: the Hawk And to be fair, the Rockets definitely have

826
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: been playing better lately. But uh, they were up thirteen

827
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: going into the fourth quarter and got spanked. So bad loss, Atlanta.

828
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: Do you think when there's a bad loss in the NBA,

829
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: like a stinker as you called it, that the head

830
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: coach or the captain of the team says, hey, can

831
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: we get some mattress candles in here? Some owners up

832
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: in this room.

833
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: They don't want to play as maybe if there's been

834
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: a stinker, they want to get out there and open

835
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: the doors.

836
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: Sticker in the garage yesterday.

837
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: We want to get out of that. Yeah, exactly, I

838
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: knew what was coming. That is the best fourth quarter

839
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: stinker of.

840
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: Am I the best or am I the Atlanta? Yeah,

841
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: well the worst of the best.

842
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: He was eating big beans like Scottie Burns come through

843
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: in the clubs there. Okay, so let's take our first

844
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: break and when we come back, Yeah, we'll get into

845
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: some of the what I'm calling other teams to watch

846
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: for as we get into NBA trade season. What was

847
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: that my phone? Well, I'll take it out in post.

848
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: I've got these new I've got these new pants. JD.

849
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: The back pocket not a great phone holder.

850
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you just ripped a part soul out

851
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: through your dance or something.

852
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: I like to think I have good comedic timing, but

853
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I could.

854
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: Even that off.

855
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Always have one chambered task, you know, you gotta have

856
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: one chamber it at all the time.

857
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: You just gave a mattress class.

858
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did right.

859
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: As I mentioned yesterday, and we mentioned already multiple times

860
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 3: over the last couple episodes. The unofficial start to NBA

861
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: trade season is this Wednesday, when most players who signed

862
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: contracts in summer free agency become eligible to be included

863
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: in deals. Eighty four percent of the league could be

864
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: moved around now on Wednesday. Well, we've talked a lot

865
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: about the Pacers, and the Blazers, and the seventy six ers,

866
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: even the CA. I feel like we've talked a lot

867
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: about as a possible like team that could be wheeling

868
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: and deal in at the deadline. But I think there

869
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: are plenty other teams that we can monitor here in

870
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: advance of the trade deadline. So I just made a list.

871
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: I've got three Eastern Conference teams and then four from

872
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: the West that we can watch. So I'll throw them

873
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: out of it. You guys, give you my opinion on

874
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: why they could be looking to make a move at

875
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 3: the deadline, and if you have a have a deal

876
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: in mind that you want to throw in there, or

877
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: just some thoughts, have at it. We'll start with the

878
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics. This one. Kevin O'Connor had a great article

879
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: on The Ringer. You know, he had a bunch of

880
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: observations about the league, but he got into the Celtics.

881
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: You know, he follows this team closely, and he said,

882
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: and as I don't know if you agree, like Brad

883
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: Stevens in the front office here for the first year

884
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: that he's sort of on the clock here fix a

885
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: very disappointing Celtics team. They've probably been one of the

886
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: most disappointing teams right of this early year. I think

887
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: the Knicks are in the mix too. Celtics got to

888
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: be there.

889
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: No, they're five hundred. I think the record is better

890
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: than our impression of them. I guess, so yeah, Okay,

891
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: the feeling is that they should be better and Brett,

892
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's on the clock, but definitely

893
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: the next year and a half, like by the next

894
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: trade deadline. I mean he could probably anyways, Yes, he's

895
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: on the clock moving one of.

896
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: Their all stars, Kevin O'Connor pointed out, and of the two,

897
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: more likely Jalen Brown, Like that would lead to a

898
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: very massive return. I think you could get a lot

899
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: for a player of his caliber. I think the Pacers

900
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: would trade the farm sort of for him, because maybe

901
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: that's the quote unquote star they'd be looking for. But

902
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: even if they keep both of those guys Tatum and Brown,

903
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: and that's fine, there are other moves that Stevens could

904
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: explore here because you have tradable short term contracts. You

905
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: got Marcus Smart, you got Josh Richardson al Horford even

906
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: who has played well for them, and then you have

907
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: young players who, like has they've shown promise that I

908
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: don't know other teams could convince themselves. There's like really

909
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: something there. I'm talking about Robert Williams, the third maybe

910
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: Romeo Langford. So I think just that the Celtics slow

911
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: startly and like really leaning into a direction here and again,

912
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: maybe that is moving Jayleen Brown for a whole lot

913
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: of pieces, or if it's sticking with your two guys

914
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: Tatum and Brown and you're all stars working around the

915
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: fringes here to like inject a little life into this team.

916
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: I think they're a possibility at least to be active here.

917
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 3: I don't know what you think.

918
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't trade Jalen Brown, though right now it

919
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 4: wasn't No. I don't think I want If you can

920
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: get something for those other periphery pieces, then yeah, sure,

921
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 4: I think anyone else is expendable. But Brown was an

922
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: All Star last season. I think at his best, he

923
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: and Tatum are a great one two punch. I don't

924
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 4: think they've reached the DeRozan Lowry stage of their sort

925
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: of time together where it's like, all right, this ain't working,

926
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: We're going to try something else. I think you just

927
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: try to continue to add around them, and they need

928
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: a point game.

929
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: You wouldn't trade. You wouldn't trade Jayalen Brown. Hypothetically, if

930
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: the Pacers like we will give you again, like the

931
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: farm like we'll give you. Let's say it's Miles Turner.

932
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: Let's says Jeremy Lamb. Let's say it's like TJ. Warrant

933
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: and then a bunch of picks like a lot for

934
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: Jeleen Brown, because they would like want that again like

935
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: wing star in their minds, you wouldn't do it any.

936
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

937
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 4: Well, I mean when you say Myles Turner, then there's

938
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 4: just pieces after that, which doesn't really help the Celtics

939
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: and those picks. Okay, maybe, but I think you've got

940
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: two young stars growing together in Tatum and Brown. I

941
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: just wouldn't give up on those guys yet. You know,

942
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: Horford I think has shown that he could still get

943
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 4: you something maybe in return. But again, I think their

944
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: problem is sort of in the point guards. But I

945
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: think they need a more defined point guard rather than

946
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: Shrewder and Marcus Smart But and even Marcus smartt I

947
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: think he can probably fetch you something because he can

948
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: play defense, He's improved his shooting and stuff like that.

949
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: But there's Miles Turner for Jalen Brown and picks. No thanks,

950
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: not if I'm Boston.

951
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 3: Being town boys? Are they going to be active here?

952
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: You think, Tray? Should they? I guess the better way'd

953
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: ask it.

954
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: I think they should because I think they're kind of

955
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: in a holding pattern right now with this team. It's

956
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: basically the same team that they had last year with

957
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: a few little cosmetic just bringing in a Horford, bringing

958
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: in a Shrewder. But Marcus Smart, to me, would be

959
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: the guy I would want to trade. Unfortunately, he signed

960
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: through twenty twenty six, So you're gonna have to have

961
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: somebody who really really likes Marcus Smart and thinks that

962
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: his defense is playmaking and his streaky shooting is what

963
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: they want from their point guard spot.

964
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, they just need somebody who is a.

965
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Natural playmaker and I don't think they have that on

966
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: the roster, so to be able to find that that

967
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: would certainly help the Celtics. But it'll be interesting to

968
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: see how Brad Stevens operates in the front office.

969
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 5: Right We kind of have no idea right now.

970
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: For the past I don't know, ten seasons, it's been

971
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: the Celtics seem like they're going to be making a

972
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: big move and then we hear all about.

973
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 5: The moves that they didn't make.

974
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: So we'll see if they actually do something this year,

975
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: because I think they need a little shot in the.

976
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 5: Arm for sure.

977
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: All Right, next team here on the list to maybe

978
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: watch for the Knicks twelve and fifteen. The Big Bong Knicks. Man,

979
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: remember when we were riding high after the Big Bung video. Wow,

980
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: they we're gonna win the championship. We thought they have

981
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 3: been I think right there with the Celtics. An early

982
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: season disappointment here. New York has dropped from top five

983
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: in defensive efficiency last season to basically bottom five. I mean,

984
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: they're just out of that little window. You gotta figure

985
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: that's giving Tom Thibodeau an ulcer seeing those stats. We

986
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: just learned that New York is maybe one of the

987
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: several teams interested in training for Ben Simmons. You know,

988
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: there's an injection of defense lee possibly. I don't know

989
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: what the hell they would offer Philadelphia that would entice

990
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: Darryl Moury. I know Randall, I mean Julius Randal. I

991
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: don't think why you'd ever want to really pair him

992
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: with embeat anyway. But he can't be moved until like

993
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: right before the deadline. But like Evan Fournier and Alec

994
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: Berks and Obi Topping and then they do have picks,

995
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: like they have a bunch of picks. That's the one

996
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: thing the Nicks have. They have plenty of draft capital,

997
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: but that's not going to be enough to get Ben Simmons.

998
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so. But all future first round picks

999
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: plus future future first round picks from Charlotte, I know

1000
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: there's some protection in there. I think it's top eighteen

1001
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: protected in twenty twenty two, and then from Dallas too.

1002
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: They have one still in twenty twenty three. That's top

1003
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: ten protected. But they might need to make a move here.

1004
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: And again there's so Lillard probably ain't going anywhere, he says,

1005
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't want to be traded, So get

1006
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: that out of your heads. But any of the other

1007
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: big names like Karl Anthony Towns seems frustrated. Is that

1008
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: a move the next could get involved in? You know

1009
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: Ingram We've talked like there are there are, of course

1010
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: players out there, and I just wonder, leally, if your

1011
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: New York Knicks will after this bad start, let's call

1012
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: it what it is, Yeah, try and shake it up here.

1013
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I J Barrett, I think he you know,

1014
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: even he hasn't been great, but they don't have that

1015
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: one asset that I think teams are just clamoring for

1016
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: you know, Julius Randalls obviously dropped off from last season.

1017
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: He was fantastic last season, hasn't been able to reproduce that.

1018
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 4: And then I mean, Kemball Walker is there, but he's

1019
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: obviously not He can't even get in the rotation. And

1020
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: the team's bad right now.

1021
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: So teams are gonna want their picks or they're gonna

1022
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: want their young guys and bear it quickly, Mitchell.

1023
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: Robbinson quickly, you know, quick, quick quickly. Should definitely have

1024
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: and top and should have some interest out there. So

1025
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: they've got some pieces, but again not that sort of

1026
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: like must have. I don't think so that's gonna be

1027
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: tough for the Knicks to get that really solid piece,

1028
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 4: like exactly what they're looking for in return. I'm not sure.

1029
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 4: I don't even I mean, what's Fornier? Can he be

1030
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: traded then tonight?

1031
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Is that?

1032
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: Is he part of the eighty four percent?

1033
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: I believe so? But yeah, he probably.

1034
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 4: Uses a free agent, you know so, But but even

1035
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 4: then forty hasn't been Yeah, exactly, No.

1036
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: Nobody else wanted to give him a four year deal

1037
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: for that big right in the off season, and probably

1038
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: still don't hear the problem they need. Something needs to

1039
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: change for the Knicks. Bringing in offense and losing the

1040
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: defense completely backfired on them. Julius Randall turned into a

1041
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: pumpkin in the playoffs, remains a pumpkin at this point.

1042
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: Something has to change. I know Tom Thibodeaux has the

1043
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: backing of Leon Rose in the front office, but usually

1044
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: it's the coaching thing that changes before the players do. Because,

1045
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: like Lee's saying, like their most interesting players here are

1046
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: probably going to be Quickly and Topping and RJ. Barrett,

1047
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: and those are tiny contracts because they're all still on

1048
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: their rookie deals, not to make would the Knicks want

1049
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: to give up on them this early? I mean, like

1050
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: teams are calling about Kevin Knox, Sure trade that guy,

1051
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: but the others seem to be future pieces for you.

1052
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: I think they're funny team task because you know, the

1053
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: Knicks in years prior have like swung for the fences

1054
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: and it's usually blown up in their face. And then

1055
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: these last couple of years, especially with Leon Rose under control,

1056
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: have it like gone crazy, have built back up their

1057
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: draft capital, like I said, and so on one hand,

1058
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: I've heard Knicks fan saying, no, well, hey, look if

1059
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: there's a star player, go get them, you know, be

1060
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: a cat, be it somebody else of that nature. And

1061
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: then others say no, no, no, what you're doing is

1062
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: the right way to do it, and keep your picks.

1063
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: You've got young guys here and still continue to grow

1064
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: this team. Like maybe you peaked a little too quick,

1065
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: too soon last year, maybe you were never that good,

1066
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: but you're still a solid team in a playoff race here.

1067
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: Where would you fall on the spectrum there, like go

1068
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: all in for a big name or continue to slow

1069
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: play it.

1070
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: I guess, well, yeah, it's kind of a gray area.

1071
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you go for it. If there's a

1072
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: star available, you go for it. It always depends on

1073
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: what you're giving up for. But yeah, why wouldn't you

1074
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: get a star that's a young star on a good contract,

1075
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: that's at in the prime of his career. Like what

1076
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: would stop the Knicks from doing that? Having to give

1077
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: up one of their picks or a couple of their picks,

1078
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 2: or Obi Toppin or Emmanuel Quickly or Quentin Grimes, which

1079
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: is a great name. I think they would go for

1080
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: what the problem that they they kind of yeah, as

1081
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: you said, they kind of they got good early. I mean,

1082
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: they got good last year thinking that it would probably

1083
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: take a couple of years, and then they stepped up

1084
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: into free agency and acted as if they were a

1085
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: championship team. Really like they're adding Evan Fournier as that

1086
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: final piece, or Nerleans Noel or Alec Burks. I mean,

1087
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: they gave multiple years to multiple guys, and yes, it

1088
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: has backfired to some degree. They are eleven to fourteen.

1089
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: Been disappointing, but I think I think they kind of

1090
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: work around the fringes again, like if there is some

1091
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: star available, of course, go for it, but somebody would

1092
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: have to be willing to take on big money. And

1093
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: that's like Trey said, the team the players that they

1094
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: other teams would want not huge contracts, but if you're

1095
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: going to get a good player, you need to trade

1096
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: a huge contract. So somebody's gonna have to want Evan

1097
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: Forigny for the next three point seven five years, or

1098
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, Julius Randall for four point seven five years.

1099
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, Randall, I guess is the elephant in the

1100
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: room here that he's been extremely disappointing. He yeah, he

1101
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: went from an incredible player last year took a step

1102
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: back in the playoffs and hasn't jumped back to that

1103
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: player he was in the regular season. So that's why

1104
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: they're sub five hundred. Really, they would be the same

1105
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: team if Randall was Randall.

1106
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 3: If anybody wants Kevin Knox, I think you can get them.

1107
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: Might take a second round pick or something, but go

1108
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 3: get yourself a Knox if you want to my final

1109
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference team, I'm gonna put the Atlanta Hawks on

1110
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: here because I feel like they're a sneaky team to

1111
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: watch here. There hasn't been a ton of buzz about them.

1112
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: I know Sham's yesterday said that rival teams are expressing

1113
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: interest in Cam Reddish, but atl apparently wants a first

1114
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: round pick for him. I'm not sure is he worth that.

1115
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: How heavily protected is that pick. That's up to you

1116
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: to decide. He's having like a good year offensively, scoring

1117
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: about eleven points per game, shooting thirty seven percent from three.

1118
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: I think, though, like we talk about all these teams

1119
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: around trade deadlines and stuff like that, and it's always

1120
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: like it feels like it's always the same four or

1121
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: five six teams, But then what happens lee is like

1122
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: there's still like a surprise team that's sort of like

1123
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: whoa Like even the Bulls last year making the move

1124
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: for Vucevic. I don't remember that being like reported on

1125
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: a whole bunch, and you know they were sort of

1126
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: like really leaning into like Okay, let's go for it here,

1127
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: Let's give up some picks, give us some young guys.

1128
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: And then of course the additions in the off season,

1129
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 3: signing some of those guys in Caruso and de Rozan

1130
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: and Lonto Ball and that was big. But my point

1131
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: is like there's like a surprise team, and I think

1132
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 3: the Hawks could be that team. I know we've talked

1133
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: off camera before with a couple of our Hawks friends,

1134
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: like could they make a move for Ben Simmons, Like

1135
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: could they put together a sort of enticing deal to

1136
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 3: Daryl Mori and the Sixers to try and add him

1137
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: beside Tree Young and have a backcourt like that, one

1138
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: incredibly skilled offensive player and one incredibly skilled defensive player.

1139
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe that's like not a direction like

1140
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: schlankin the Hawks organization wants to go. But you know

1141
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: we see Simmons comparisons to Draymond Green all the time.

1142
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: Slink obviously with the Warriors, saw the success that was

1143
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: and even the comparisons of Trey Young to Steph Curry.

1144
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that far fetched that the Hawks

1145
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: could put it together an enticing package Lee and go.

1146
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: I think somebody of note, Yeah.

1147
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: I think if you are the Sixes and you say,

1148
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: you know, DeAndre Hunter, he's injured right now, but he

1149
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: can be very good. He can shoot the three, he's

1150
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 4: a good defender, and you can get Cam reddis Shoes

1151
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: a little bit trigger happy, but you know that's I

1152
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 4: think he's trying to sort of put on a bit

1153
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 4: of a show for himself there. And then maybe a

1154
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: Kevin Huerre someone like that. I think that is something

1155
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: that could at least get the Sixers talking because you're

1156
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: getting some shooting, you're getting some some offense there, and

1157
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: you're getting some defense in Deonder Hunter. The problem is

1158
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hunter is seemingly always injured, so you know, do

1159
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 4: you want that? And Kevin Wuerta, you know, I think

1160
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 4: he's quite good. He would be coming off the bench

1161
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 4: chef Philadelphia. Would the Hawks actually want to sort of

1162
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: give up all their depth right now on taking a

1163
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 4: bit of a fly here for Ben Simmons. You know, again,

1164
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 4: I know we've talked about this a lot on where

1165
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: we stand on Ben Simmons at his best, no question,

1166
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 4: I think the Hawks would love to have his defense

1167
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 4: out there, but he's also coming with some questions. And

1168
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: the Hawks I think are a better team than their record.

1169
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been saying that all season and

1170
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 4: then they drop an absolute stinker last night. But I

1171
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 4: think when healthy, when Hunter's in that starting lineup, I

1172
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: think this team is much better than what we've seen

1173
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 4: so far. So they they're the sort of team that'd

1174
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: be like, listen, if you want to blow us away

1175
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: with a great offer, maybe, but I don't think they

1176
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: need to go out there and sell these guys. You know,

1177
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 4: bog Danovich as has got to come back, so they've

1178
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 4: got enough depth I think right now that then not

1179
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 4: necessarily looking to be involved in the trade. But you

1180
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 4: call him up, you see what travish Link's interested in.

1181
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 4: Maybe he can twist his arm.

1182
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe. Still with the pointing out the stream team,

1183
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 3: the Hawks did watch Ben Shrink live in person? Yeah,

1184
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, look, I think they would still admit

1185
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: he'd be a great addition to their team defensively, but

1186
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: maybe they you know, depends what it would cost to

1187
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 3: get him. I guess Trey maybe.

1188
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: Oloia, Lewis, Hamilton, Max Verstapen thing and they'll give him

1189
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: the secrets to a winning mindset. I think the Hawks

1190
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: could one hundred percent use Ben Simmons. They're so bad

1191
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: on defense. They need somebody who really cares on that end,

1192
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: and Ben Simmons is at least gonna care. Yeah, he

1193
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: melted down in the playoffs against the Hawks, but that's

1194
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: fine trade the depth. Like you need something, you need

1195
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: somebody who is a defensive minded player. Capella has been

1196
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: that guy for the Hawks. He does not look the

1197
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: same this season. He's getting older. You're locking Ben Simmons

1198
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: in for another few seasons as a young guy, another

1199
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: ball handler who would be able to take over playmaking.

1200
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: The Hawks have a ton of wings who are good

1201
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: in some games and then some games can play invisible

1202
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: and they get roasted defensively from the back court position.

1203
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 5: I think that's a good trade for the Hawks personally.

1204
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: As for the Sixers, I think they could do a

1205
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: lot better than anything the Hawks are going to give them.

1206
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always the hang up of this, isn't it

1207
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: all right? Let's move to the Western Conference teams. Tests

1208
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 3: Lee teased it earlier last night. The Rockets were down

1209
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: six with like four and a half to go, and

1210
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: then Eric Gordon, your guy, and DJ Augustine they went

1211
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 3: on a ten oh run. They put Houston in control,

1212
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: and they won the game. Houston's phones should be ringing

1213
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: off the hook with contenders inquiring about the availability of

1214
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 3: maybe both of them, but especially Eric Gordon. Holy crap,

1215
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: this guy's shooting forty five percent from three for the

1216
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: Rockets this year, highest mark of his Career's that's that's

1217
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: wild here, and he you know, you could see him

1218
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 3: being a great contributor to a playoff or championship contender. Now,

1219
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: the problem with him, he earns eighteen million this season.

1220
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: He still owed I think like almost twenty million next

1221
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: season in twenty twenty two to twenty three, and then

1222
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: his contract is not guaranteed the year after that, so

1223
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: in twenty three twenty four he's slated to earn around

1224
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: twenty plus million. But the problem with the contenders wanting

1225
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: him is, well, that's a decent chunk of decent chunk

1226
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: of salary. Right to try and get them that, you're

1227
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: gonna have to move to make the numbers work. But

1228
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 3: is there a like do you agree that the Rockets

1229
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: should be definitely looking to move him and getting obviously

1230
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 3: salary to make it work, but forget the players coming

1231
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: back in return outside of like a young prospect or

1232
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: really then get draft capital attached to it, Like can

1233
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 3: you get a first round pick at this point for

1234
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: Riic Gordon?

1235
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 4: Like is that insane?

1236
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: No? I don't think that's insane. There's protections on it.

1237
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: What's a first round pick? You know, like you just

1238
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: said about the next Charlotte pick that they got. You know,

1239
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: it's top eighteen protected or whatever it is.

1240
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it changes over the next couple of years.

1241
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so Eric Corn, Yeah, it's a big contract.

1242
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: It's not like a typical expiring deal. There's there's money there.

1243
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: So Eric Gordon, Oh boy, he's ready to get out

1244
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: of there. Yeah, he's like John Legend, he's ready to

1245
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 2: go right now, like now now, now, now, he's ready

1246
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: to leave and he's balling. And he should be the

1247
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: type of player that a lot of these teams that

1248
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: are looking for a player should be looking for you,

1249
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: because not everyone is going to get Dame or whoever

1250
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: Dame's not even on the market. But you know those

1251
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: type of guys, this that kcp I mentioned.

1252
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: Earlier, this level of player, Yeah.

1253
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: Those are the ones you can go get, but you

1254
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: need a contract coming back. So I didn't really look

1255
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: at the standings for somebody who could pick him up.

1256
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: But I do like the idea of Eric Gordon. Yeah,

1257
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: like I've mentioned before the Miami Heat. You know who

1258
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: knows that Victor Oladipo is going to be able to

1259
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: come off the bench for them? He hasn't played a minute.

1260
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: Eric Gordon would give them some you know, back end

1261
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: rotation talent because they're a top heavy team they could

1262
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: use another score. I you know, I'm I'm feeling like

1263
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: a Twitter fan right now. Oh baby, yeah he would

1264
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: look at on that team. Oh baby, he would look

1265
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: good on it. I mean, if it's yeah, if it's

1266
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: just money is the problem coming up?

1267
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 4: But I think that the last year of his contract

1268
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: is guaranteed. A yeah, so so so it's really.

1269
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: I thought I said non guaranteed. Maybe I misspoke, but yeah,

1270
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: all right, Duncan Robinson misspoke or I.

1271
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: Didn't miss Duncan Robins, would you do it?

1272
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 5: Duncan for Eric.

1273
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: Duncan on Duncan at this point, I'm hanging on dunk Hmm, yeah,

1274
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: not bad.

1275
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: I did it makes you think anyway. The point is Rockets,

1276
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: they'd be silly to sort of keep him, right, I mean,

1277
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: he has done an incredible job of building up his

1278
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: his trade value to the point where like we're debating

1279
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: whether they get a first round pick and whatever, maybe

1280
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: a young prospector or someone else that could help them

1281
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: last sort of long term. And and and like dj

1282
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: Oxen on a whole other level, like a lower level,

1283
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: I could see a team obviously wanting him on their roster,

1284
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: just sort of like a third guard, back up of emergency.

1285
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: Somebody goes down in a playoff series and you can

1286
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: at least sort of trust him to play some spot minutes.

1287
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: And again he can be had. And then there's the

1288
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: whole Christian Woods thing. I know that his name has

1289
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: been popping up in trade rumors left and right. That

1290
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: one's a little different. You know, he's obviously a little

1291
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 3: bit younger. This Gilligue guy has turned himself into an

1292
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: NBA solid NBA player. I don't want to go as

1293
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: far as the Star, but teams that need a center

1294
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: would be uh, you know, the Raptors have been linked

1295
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: to him for a while, and could they offer something

1296
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 3: to Houston. So I think they'll be I think they'll

1297
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: be making moves here in the next couple of weeks,

1298
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: a couple other teams here. We don't need to go

1299
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: along on these teams, so I guess we have talked

1300
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: about them a little bit. The Sacramento Kings, I mean

1301
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: how I just don't know how they couldn't possibly explore

1302
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: Explorer not trading one of their guys, like in a

1303
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: if it's moving off Fox, if it's moving Barns, if

1304
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: it's moving Buddy Healed, they have to be picking up

1305
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: the phone and like listening to offers for really any

1306
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: three of those guys, like like they're just there.

1307
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 5: Calls for everybody on the off, on the roster.

1308
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: Really everybody, and nobody's untouchable.

1309
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 5: Who cares? Who cares?

1310
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, Halliburton is good, Mitchell is good, Fine,

1311
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: trade them your team stinks. Nobody cares on that team,

1312
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: and that's the problem. So to me, Fox would be

1313
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: the one to go, Like if anybody's really interested in

1314
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: Fox signed through twenty twenty six, where he's got a

1315
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: huge deal. You have to imagine he's going to give

1316
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: some more effort once he's away from Sacramento, as many

1317
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: players do.

1318
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 5: So start at the top, keep going.

1319
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: And then I have the Timberwolves here and I brought

1320
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 3: them up. Trade because you have been sort of saying

1321
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: this for a little bit. Now, just trade Karl Anthony Towns. Now,

1322
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: don't wait, don't I mean, I guess Lee you were

1323
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: saying this last year actually to give you a little

1324
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: credit to like, just get as much as you possibly

1325
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: can for him now, because the value of him is

1326
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: probably only going to go down the closer he gets

1327
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: to the end of his deal. Of course, ending is

1328
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: it just gets closer and closer and closer. Is that

1329
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: something you would still do? Leave If you're in Minnesota, Timberwolves,

1330
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: and you're you're the Wolves, we get excited for a

1331
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: couple of games, and then you just disappoint us and

1332
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: like you got Anthony Edwards, you got like your sort

1333
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 3: of starbackcorp player, and you can build around him and

1334
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: you can get probably a boltload right now for a

1335
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: carol anthink.

1336
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Towns's time is just up there in Minnesota.

1337
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: He saw it the other day. He's just sick of losing.

1338
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: He says, he can't. You know, food doesn't taste good.

1339
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 4: He's been there what seven seasons now, and it just

1340
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 4: hasn't gotten any better. So I think you've got to

1341
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: trade the guy while he is still in that position

1342
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 4: that the Wolves can get something back. I think Anthony Edwards'

1343
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: growth has been so good they can say, okay, let's

1344
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: maybe shift the focus towards him now and go ahead

1345
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 4: with Anthony Edwards is our best player, and just see

1346
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: then what else we can get to surround surrounding me.

1347
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 4: They need some bigs, you know. I think they could

1348
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: use also some more shooting. I mean, they could use

1349
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 4: lots of things, because the Wolves do seem to win

1350
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: a couple of games, and they're a bit like the

1351
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 4: Kings where you're like, oh, okay, maybe they're okay, and

1352
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 4: then they've just dropped six in a row again. So

1353
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 4: I think it is time to move on from Towns.

1354
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: He looks like he's just sort of he's done with

1355
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 4: that franchise as well. Part of it is his responsibility,

1356
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: you know, he hasn't sort of dragged that team to

1357
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 4: enough wins himself. But he's also been that long enough

1358
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 4: where I think. I don't think it's going to continue.

1359
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna get any better with the

1360
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 4: way they've built right now.

1361
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: Trey, again, you've been sort of banging this drum for

1362
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: a little bit. I assume you haven't changed your tune

1363
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 3: on moving Kat and trying to get a lot back

1364
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: for him. Young players picks whatever you can and really

1365
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: lean into the Anthony Edwards sort of rebuild or or.

1366
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: Have you a Minnesota you want a Vooch, you want

1367
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: a vouch, you want to Patrick Williams, you want to

1368
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: Kobe White? A lot of good food in Chicago, one

1369
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: hundred percent would trait Carl Anthony Towns. He is not

1370
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: the savior for Minnesota. And Edwards I think has kind

1371
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: of been a little disappointing this season, Like his percentages

1372
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: aren't all that different than they were last year. He's

1373
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: basically planned the same way he did last year. Those

1374
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: two don't seem to make each other better. I don't

1375
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: think Carl Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards, like they don't

1376
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: take away from each other, but they also don't enhance

1377
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: each other. That's a year turn, my turn kind of thing,

1378
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: So uh yeah to me, it's always it's impossible for

1379
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: a front office because you're like, do we trade our

1380
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: best player knowing we get more for him today than

1381
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: we will in the future, But in the meantime those

1382
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: two years we're gonna be way worse. It's kind of

1383
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: the Darren Williams situation right where they traded him away

1384
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: from Utah before anybody really knew that he wanted to

1385
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: leave Utah. He shifted into New Jersey, brought back a

1386
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: bunch of picks, and that kind of started this era

1387
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: for the jazz. Really, when you really think about it,

1388
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: just blew my own mind right there. But yeah, it's

1389
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: always smarter to trade your franchise cornerstone before they say

1390
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: they want to leave, because then you're scrambling and people

1391
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: are undercutting your deals and you're not getting the best

1392
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: possible package you could.

1393
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: So better to strike while the iron is surprising.

1394
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people pointing out the stream team. I've seen

1395
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: this thrown around a little bit. What about Karl Anthony

1396
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: Towns to the Knicks is like, that's the big name

1397
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 3: New York could go and get. Yeah, in Siria, I

1398
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: like it, But then you remember that Tom Thibodeau is

1399
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: the coach for the New York Nicks, and I don't

1400
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: think he has that. I have opinion of Karl Anthony

1401
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 3: Tones if I'm being honest, though, Greg here in the

1402
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: stream team takes me to my final team just perfectly

1403
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: because he says, Okay, see, they could give so many

1404
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 3: picks for cat. Yeah, they could, and I think Oklahoma

1405
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: is a team to watch. Here Washington Post, Ben Golliver,

1406
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 3: our friend Ben there. He said, Sam Presty has the

1407
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 3: league's lowest payroll by a country mile, and will therefore

1408
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 3: have every opportunity to do what he does best for

1409
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: the rebuilding Thunder acquire draft picks by using cap space

1410
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: as a way station for bad contracts, keep your eye

1411
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: on the Thunder task, getting involved in and even like

1412
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: as a third team to take on that you know,

1413
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: bad contract as long as picks are attached to it.

1414
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: Presty's happy with that, and Ben Goliver's probably right. I

1415
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: bet they do something like that. I don't know about

1416
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: the whole like, yeah, packaging a bunch of picks and

1417
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: then whatever they could to get a big player like

1418
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns. But the former I could see happening.

1419
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: They have cap space, do they have cat cap space. Oh,

1420
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: how's the cat food in Oklahoma? A city hungry cat

1421
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: go down to Wow, that would be wild to see

1422
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony towns in Oklahoma City. Just pondering that.

1423
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: I remember the name of the steakhouse we went to

1424
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: an Oklahoma.

1425
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: City, Yes, Cattleman's.

1426
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: Oh what's happening cattle.

1427
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: Cattle?

1428
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: Did you enjoy it?

1429
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: Lee?

1430
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yes I did. I did, But you know,

1431
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 4: if I eat beef anymore, so on to go back.

1432
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was back in the old days, the

1433
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 4: old days.

1434
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 3: So anyway, those are the teams that I have on

1435
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: my list, just to run through them very quickly. Celtics,

1436
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: the Knicks, the Hawks, and then the Rockets, the King's

1437
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: Wolves and then the Thunder. As Ben Gull were pointing out,

1438
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 3: they'll get in there somehow to get themselves another pick

1439
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: or too, just to take on somebody's bad contract.

1440
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 1: Who's an ugly contract they could take on right now?

1441
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it is hard to know.

1442
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of high dollar value players.

1443
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 5: At this point.

1444
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: That's an issue. Yeah, so that is.

1445
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: Just take guys.

1446
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just got to accept somebody. Maybe they'll get.

1447
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: John Wall coming to the point guard away station in

1448
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: the city rebuildings value, ship them out for some more picks.

1449
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 5: Let's see it.

1450
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: Uh tasks, are you staying up till midnight tonight? They

1451
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: deals go down at twelve oh one, Well, these guys

1452
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: could be moved, I sell you to.

1453
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: Actually it might go to bed early twelve am a lot. Well, actually,

1454
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: eleven fifty five, I'll get a brush my teeth.

1455
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 4: Based on your tweet test, if it's eighty four percent

1456
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 4: become eligible for a trade. Isn't it like eighty four

1457
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 4: percent of teams that are up three to in a

1458
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: series going to win the series. So based on that rationale,

1459
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 4: those players are all going to get traded tonight. Isn't

1460
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 4: that right?

1461
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: I didn't include that crazy rationale. Eight percent of the

1462
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: league win a series tonight.

1463
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 4: Well, then I think that's what you say, is when

1464
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 4: they're up three to two in a series, it's like, uh,

1465
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 4: they don't. So if they're all the viable, then they're

1466
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 4: all going to get traded. Everyone just gets tried it

1467
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 4: for everybody.

1468
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 3: This is the best part of all this. That's still

1469
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: with the points out. Nothing happened, that's not going to

1470
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 3: stop that. The whole segment out of it? Are you

1471
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: crazy content?

1472
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, I got I got Duncan Robinson for Eric Gordon

1473
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: on the Brain because Trey mentioned that the heat for

1474
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: Rockets potential swap if they don't believe in Duncan Romson.

1475
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: I mean they just signed too long drim deal. But

1476
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson can't be traded until January. Oh no, no,

1477
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to be up for thirty days waiting for Duncan.

1478
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 3: Drinking Dunkin coffee? What never mind?

1479
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: I've never never had it.

1480
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: Duncan coffee, but Dunkin don't don't you say? So you

1481
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 3: have to say?

1482
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: Is that what you have? They have a lot of

1483
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: cool phrases for people who drink Dunkin don'uts like.

1484
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 5: But they do have a phraeze.

1485
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, America runs on Duncans.

1486
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: America definitely runs on.

1487
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 3: Let's take last and final break. When we come back,

1488
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: we have to tweet of the name. Let's get to

1489
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: tweet of the name.

1490
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: Tweet of the night.

1491
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: Wow twitter Ah, Yes, Leally tweeted the name. Where do

1492
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 3: you go for us?

1493
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: Yes?

1494
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 4: So I've got a tweet that comes in from Matt Lowell.

1495
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 4: Now we've got the tweet, right, and says the last

1496
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: time the Calves were five games over five hundred without

1497
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 4: Lebron was December twenty three, two thousand, and that Ruster

1498
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 4: had five players born in the nineteen sixties. So everybody,

1499
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 4: let's have a little bit of a round of see

1500
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 4: how many of these guys you can name. You should

1501
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 4: be able to get a lot of them. Okay, so

1502
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: and the Calves. Yeah, so think about a look about thousand. Now,

1503
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: I'll give you a clue. No, no, Tyrone Hills. I'll

1504
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 4: throw out a few clues. There's a few guys with

1505
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 4: no one's ever heard of. But one guy is a

1506
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 4: is the color commentator for the Utah Jazz. He has

1507
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 4: been in the past. Harpring is one. We've got one

1508
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 4: guy who has played on a million teams and always

1509
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: wore the same number. I think he had a high number.

1510
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 4: He's also, you know, like a scary movie character.

1511
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 2: Interesting, ye, Jason.

1512
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 4: No, No, he's got a great name, like think of,

1513
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 4: think of like Child's play. Who is that guy?

1514
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: Chuck Chucky Chuck.

1515
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 4: Chucky Brown, Chucky Brown.

1516
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: Give me a quick gas. Here is a DNA algaskaz.

1517
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, very good. In his second season. Another guy

1518
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 4: who played on a million teams.

1519
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: Joe Smith.

1520
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: No, Joe Smith, but this guy is currently a T

1521
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 4: and T side Jim Jim Jackson. Yes, we've got a

1522
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 4: guy who you always here when you hear the Memphis

1523
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 4: Grizzlies games.

1524
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 3: True good.

1525
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,440
Speaker 4: Yes, we have a classic white guy who shack absolutely

1526
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 4: hammered famously in a big dunk.

1527
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:12,919
Speaker 2: Dudley.

1528
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, sorry, that was that Dudley. Yeah, this is

1529
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: another guy who actually played for the Lakers.

1530
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 3: He's it's a great tap and girl.

1531
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 4: No, he's got a great surname, one of those four

1532
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 4: letter surnames starts and ends with the same letter mem Chris.

1533
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 4: You've got a guy who actually currently still plays, and

1534
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 4: he's playing for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Still plays, Yeah,

1535
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 4: still plays, well, it sounds like he still plays anyway,

1536
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 4: he doesn't actually play, but.

1537
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: He still plays.

1538
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. John Schuman actually pointed it out earlier this year.

1539
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 4: Goes that guy I thought he was. I thought he

1540
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 4: was talking about this guy who used to play high

1541
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 4: draft pick in the day. He's one of those guys

1542
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 4: with the initials as his first name.

1543
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: Lately, sounds like it's CJ.

1544
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're on the right all I think Jerome Robinson

1545
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 4: Earl j R. Ree played j Yeah.

1546
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 3: Just say hornets or something. See spandex give us a

1547
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: real hint. Schumann, Well, I thought I thought you all

1548
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: saw that earlier in the year.

1549
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 4: We've got the guy who I believe is the assistant

1550
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 4: general manager out in New Orleans right now Crag and Langdon. Yes,

1551
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 4: good one, they're good one. We also have the guy

1552
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 4: I believe was traded for Dirk Nooviski on draft night,

1553
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 4: Robert Robbery attractor Robert Traylor. Correct, Yes, who else we got?

1554
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 4: Who else we got? We got more than I think

1555
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 4: two more than I Yeah, there's like twenty names on there.

1556
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 4: But you know this, like no one's ever heard of

1557
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 4: Edrich bo'hannon, so we're not going to get into him

1558
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 4: down to one guy. No, No, but I think you

1559
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 4: think about this former raptor in there, actually former raptor

1560
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 4: cousin or brother of a guy who's park No. But

1561
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 4: he stood me up at Summer League one time. Related

1562
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 4: to him.

1563
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: Stephen No, yeah.

1564
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 5: Stephen grandmother.

1565
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 4: This guy, this guy, Me and JD met him. Me

1566
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 4: and JD met him and rode the bus with him,

1567
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 4: and he was supposed to come on.

1568
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: Wesley person Wesley.

1569
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 4: Wesley person didn't pay for Raptors name, but he did.

1570
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: You guys, you did get.

1571
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: To pop and packs again because you're a rusting role.

1572
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 3: That's weird hints you've got going.

1573
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. This other guy, I don't think

1574
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 4: i've said him one of the one of the funny

1575
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 4: guys who have scored fifty points in a game. Because

1576
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: this guy had an ugly shot, got a lot of

1577
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 4: a lot of assists. He was known more as a

1578
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 4: point guy. Great fantasy play. Actually Delk no, not Tony

1579
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 4: Delk no, easy, no, no, this guy probably didn't shoot

1580
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 4: a three when he hit his fifty though, Like, but

1581
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 4: he had an ugly shot. And here's a guard though

1582
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 4: he said, Yeah, he's a guard.

1583
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1584
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 4: Played for the Cavs and then the Clippers and the Blazers.

1585
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 4: I think he was on the Blazers when he scored

1586
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 4: his fifty two and Miller Andre Miller, it was yeah,

1587
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 4: he started on the Cavs, like led the league in Yeah,

1588
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 4: I think you're right there. Yeah, okay, I think too.

1589
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 4: I think we've got most of them here. We've got

1590
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 4: two more in though on one guy, you think of

1591
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 4: the Golden State Warriors, I think mostly when you think

1592
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 4: of this guy, I think he was an All Star

1593
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 4: in ninety seven, in fact, one time All Star. Oh

1594
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 4: he was not Gatling, Yes, Chris Gatling.

1595
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: Was in sea.

1596
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1597
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 4: And there's another guy. There's another guy for I think

1598
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 4: of him more as the Miami Heat and he's got

1599
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 4: a very he's one of those weird his first name

1600
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 4: is not his real name, but that's what he went by.

1601
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 4: And D Bimbo Bimbo. Well yeah, so there you go.

1602
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: So this was the two thousand Cavaliers though you said,

1603
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: that's right, yeah, the last time Cedric Henderson's.

1604
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: There's a former, that's what.

1605
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's right there too with Wesley Larry Robinson.

1606
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 3: He used to play for the Montreal Canadians.

1607
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 4: He was he was a New New Jersey Devil's coach

1608
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 4: as well, wasn't he that.

1609
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: Cl This is crazy.

1610
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: What a group of fellows Henderson. How come we didn't

1611
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: get to guess.

1612
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's another Robinson.

1613
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to guess Anthony.

1614
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to guess Clarence Weathers. Alright, so you did

1615
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 3: say five of those guys were born in the sixth

1616
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 3: that's right.

1617
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

1618
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: The pretty crazy part all right, ye, brought to you

1619
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: by Bett MG. We had last night Heat calves back

1620
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 3: to that game Cleveland was fired by five and a half.

1621
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: You know, we knew the Heat were missing some guys,

1622
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,799
Speaker 3: and we thought, well some of us thought, Task thought,

1623
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: and my coin flip thing thought the Heat would cover Mike.

1624
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 3: My app has not got a game correct yet. It's

1625
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 3: over four in flipping a coin. This is actually amazing

1626
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 3: to me. I'm one in eight Task now four and

1627
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 3: five League, got it right, you're four and five. You're

1628
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: tied with Task and then Trey a beautiful eight to

1629
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 3: one record here in December. So only three games on

1630
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 3: tonight because we had we didn't even talk about this,

1631
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: did we. The Bulls had a couple of games postponed.

1632
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 3: They were supposed to play tonight if I have that correctly,

1633
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 3: and then yeah, they were supposed to play Thursday against the Raptors,

1634
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 3: but those are going to be postponed because of their

1635
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 3: team being ravaged by COVID health and saved protocols. So anyway,

1636
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: what's our game tonight?

1637
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: Well, it's the TNT doubleheader, and the team leading that doubleheader,

1638
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: of course, is Steph Curry going into Madison Square gardens.

1639
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: So I thought, of course we're gonna pick that game.

1640
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 2: But it's only a three and a half point line,

1641
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: and I thought we'd all take the Warriors. Am I

1642
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 2: right in saying that? Yeah?

1643
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, give me a second. You said

1644
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 3: the Warriors are the road team. Yes, that is correct.

1645
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, you you insert who the road team.

1646
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 3: Is with the co oh well road team is tails

1647
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 3: of course, yeah.

1648
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, homes heads heads homes. Anyway, so I went away

1649
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: from that game. I went off the TNT board and

1650
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 2: I went to the nets visiting, I'm sorry, the nets

1651
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: hosting the Toronto Raptors. This line so big eight and

1652
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: a half points for the Brooklyn Nets and news from

1653
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: shamp Sharanya. Four nets have entered health and safety protocols

1654
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: for tonight's game. They will not be playing LaMarcus Alteris,

1655
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 2: DeAndre Bembery, Javon Carter, and James Johnson. Sorry, Trey, you

1656
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: can't change your pick. You're the only one. No, come on,

1657
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: it wouldn't change Bembria.

1658
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 5: What are we gonna do?

1659
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: No Bembury, No problem. That's eight and a half point

1660
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 2: favorites against the Raps. The three of us skeets, myself

1661
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: and Lee are taking the wraps to cover that big,

1662
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: big line, but there'd be a nuts blowing.

1663
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: Here's all we care about. Can the can the app?

1664
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 3: The coin flip app go.

1665
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: To zero and five?

1666
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 4: Here we go.

1667
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 3: This was gonna be interesting task. Obviously, I'm a Raptors fan.

1668
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 3: I was like, well, let's see what the coin flip

1669
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 3: app says. And it came up wraps, so I didn't

1670
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 3: have to like, you know, really, we am I gonna

1671
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 3: pick against the Raptors?

1672
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1673
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: No, the coin says they're gonna cover. So that means

1674
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 3: that's a ten maybe nine point victory for the Brooklyn

1675
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 3: Nets tonight. Fade the coin people, you're making a lot

1676
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 3: of money. Faded me in this coin app right now.

1677
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: That's probably a double sided Raptors going either way. It's

1678
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, what jersey are you wearing?

1679
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thanks thanks for asking.

1680
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: That's a nice jersey.

1681
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 3: This is pretty cool. This is from Luke Samansky Luke's

1682
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 3: l Ucs Design ninety one on Instagram if you want

1683
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 3: to check out his stuff. Yeah, it's like the a

1684
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 3: real good shot of it there. It's a Barnes jersey. Yeah,

1685
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be my Halloween get up for the foreseeable future.

1686
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: But go check out Luke's design ninety one on Instagram.

1687
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 3: Just incredible stuff that you can actually buy some of

1688
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 3: the stuff, some of these designs that he does. So yeah,

1689
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: I got my first Scottie Barnes jersey loving it.

1690
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a Scotty Barnes.

1691
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, yeah, Barnes with the bones. That's right. The

1692
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 3: bones are not my dollars. I don't make anybody do

1693
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 3: in any of these picks. It's brude all and I

1694
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 3: owe three pick them payoffs. It's gonna be four. That's

1695
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 3: it for today's shows.

1696
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say that that's Luca

1697
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: Samon Eaches. That's a real that was the guy who

1698
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: got released for not running back on defense. You're out

1699
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 2: of here, go design your jaz no Luke.

1700
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: Samansky All right, guys, we'll call it their fun show

1701
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 3: as always. Thanks to the stream team for joining us live.

1702
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: Thanks to the pod Squad for listening later in the day.

1703
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 3: Keep your questions coming. Like I said, we'll probably hit

1704
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 3: the beach tomorrow. No Dunks at the Athletic dot com.

1705
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: You can tweet them in at No Dunks thanking leave

1706
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,879
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