Speaker 1: That's all. That's okay, becaus no one here is.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to teen Beat, a podcast hosted by me
Speaker 2: Danielle Fischel, a former actress often mistaken for one of
Speaker 2: the Olsen twins, but never both at the same time.
Speaker 2: That would be insane, But right now I am a
Speaker 2: professional podcaster among many other things, and that means that
Speaker 2: every week I get to sit with interesting people who
Speaker 2: have done interesting things in hopes that learning about their childhoods,
Speaker 2: most likely less televised than mine, will help us understand
Speaker 2: who they've become today. I look at it like this,
Speaker 2: I gave you my childhood. It's time we hear yours.
Speaker 2: And this week I am so excited to talk to
Speaker 2: a powerhouse in the field of reality TV who first
Speaker 2: broke out in twenty thirteen as an original cast member
Speaker 2: on the cultural juggernaut vander Pump Rules. The New Orleans
Speaker 2: Natives stood out over the show's eight seasons for her
Speaker 2: quirky sense of humor and big sister vibes, bringing the
Speaker 2: audience along for the ride of twenty somethings highs and lows.
Speaker 2: As a result, she's allowed millions to witness her personal growth,
Speaker 2: transforming into a three time New York Times bestseller and
Speaker 2: always working entrepreneur, a mother of two, and now the
Speaker 2: star of her own show House of Stasse, trading in
Speaker 2: her co workers for family members and close friends. Debuting
Speaker 2: July twenty ninth on Freeform and then available to stream
Speaker 2: the next day on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus.
Speaker 2: She is impossible not to root for, and I, for one,
Speaker 2: have been sitting in the cheering section since the days
Speaker 2: of Cosmo Radio. Welcome to teen Beat, the descendant of
Speaker 2: a Swedish princess, Stussy Schroeder.
Speaker 3: I am dying got the Cosmo Radio reference.
Speaker 4: Can I just say this is a big deal for
Speaker 4: me because I feel like I'm healing a part of
Speaker 4: my inner child because I grew up on you like
Speaker 4: Joym's World was one of like my shows that was
Speaker 4: just like on rotation.
Speaker 3: That is a huge part of my childhood. So very exciting.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to hear that.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of yours for a very long time, yes,
Speaker 2: even going all the way back to the Cosmo Radio days.
Speaker 2: And we will talk a little bit about that in
Speaker 2: a little bit. Rat. I am so happy that you're
Speaker 2: here hanging out with me today. We go back many many,
Speaker 2: many many boyfriends ago, and I am so proud of
Speaker 2: you and everything that you have accomplished.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: So you're originally from New Orleans, a city most known
Speaker 2: as a debaucherous vacation spot. So I wanted to know
Speaker 2: what was it like growing up in the big Easy.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: It's the most magical city to me in this country.
Speaker 4: It's like the closest thing you get to a European feeling.
Speaker 3: And I think that's also why I just like.
Speaker 4: Love spooky, haunted horror stuff so much, because it's just
Speaker 4: like so ingrained everywhere. The architecture, the stories, like the lore,
Speaker 4: just like they're everything. Like my sister is the exact
Speaker 4: same way. We both are really into like spooky things,
Speaker 4: and we attribute that to New Orleans. I just I
Speaker 4: couldn't be prouder to be from New Orleans and it's
Speaker 4: an incredible city.
Speaker 2: We got to visit it on the pod Meats World
Speaker 2: Live tour and it was so much fun and beautiful
Speaker 2: colors and like you said, the architecture, the food, the.
Speaker 3: Food, and like the music and this sounds.
Speaker 4: It's like every single one of your senses is just
Speaker 4: like popping off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're New Orleans.
Speaker 4: I mean, the bars don't close, they're open twenty four
Speaker 4: to seven. And you know that might describe why, you know,
Speaker 4: my love wine and cocktails.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just like a part of It's.
Speaker 2: Just a part of who you are. Have you always
Speaker 2: gone by Stossi or did you ever go by your
Speaker 2: full name?
Speaker 1: Uh? So?
Speaker 4: My grandmother, who is no longer with us, she was
Speaker 4: my favorite person in the whole entire world.
Speaker 3: She when I was born, she was.
Speaker 4: Like Nostasia for this little baby Nostasia. I can't do that.
Speaker 4: She's just too little of a baby. I'm gonna call
Speaker 4: her Stasi And then it just stuck. So no, no
Speaker 4: one really. You know, my parents tried a few times.
Speaker 4: It's still on my driver's license because when I changed
Speaker 4: my last name to Clark, which also I don't recommend
Speaker 4: when you get married. It's a pain in the ass
Speaker 4: and it's so not worth it.
Speaker 2: It's the biggest pain in the butt I know.
Speaker 3: Don't do it.
Speaker 4: I thought about changing my name to Stasi Schroder Clark
Speaker 4: on my license, and I just like, I have an
Speaker 4: attachment to Nastasia.
Speaker 3: That I can't explain.
Speaker 4: It's not that anyone calls me that, but like, I
Speaker 4: just like need it's a part of me.
Speaker 2: Do you ever use it though to your advantage? Since
Speaker 2: obviously being Stasi Schroeder, everyone everyone knows that name, do
Speaker 2: you ever think, like I don't, I kind of want
Speaker 2: to be a little more anonymous. I'm going to use
Speaker 2: Nastasia now and see if that helps me skip uber Okay, great?
Speaker 4: Right, smart, and I get abers and lifts and things
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: I put in Nastasia for post me okay or things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, see smart, there's a there's a benefit
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We have a son named Keaton and we have been
Speaker 2: calling him Kiki from the time he was little, and
Speaker 2: uh we have now because of Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 2: Danny and Pasha they have Nikita, who they also call Keiki.
Speaker 2: So after my Kiki boy Kiki met girl Kiki, he
Speaker 2: decided he no longer wanted to be a Kiki now
Speaker 2: he wants to be called kk.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, we call him either with it or KK.
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 3: Is that on one of your sons shares a birthday
Speaker 3: with me?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: Are you? June twenty fourth or August twenty ninety.
Speaker 3: I'm June June twenty fourth.
Speaker 4: It's your cancer, I am, although I identify more with
Speaker 4: my rising sign.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's your rising sign?
Speaker 2: Oh, Capricorn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never really felt like a cancer, but whenever
Speaker 4: I say that, people are like, that's such a cancer
Speaker 4: thing to say.
Speaker 2: And You're like, oh, okay, maybe I'm more like a
Speaker 2: cancer than I thought. Yeah, that's funny. I am a Taurus,
Speaker 2: but my rising sign is a Leo and.
Speaker 3: Ooh, I see that. I was gonna say, you're a showman.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I do feel like it made sense once I figured
Speaker 2: out what a rising sign was, and then I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I wish I could be like, no, that's
Speaker 2: not me, but that's me, darling. So I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk to you because one of the things I look
Speaker 2: up to you about is your fashion sense.
Speaker 3: Thank you, and I want to talk to.
Speaker 2: You about your fashion journey because I have always been
Speaker 2: like a real vintage shirt and sneakers girl, but recently
Speaker 2: I have gotten very into all kinds of fashion, and
Speaker 2: I've started even paying attention to runway shows. But I
Speaker 2: know fashion has for a long time if not always
Speaker 2: been one of your interests. What was young Stossey's wardrobe
Speaker 2: like and what are some of your iconic childhood or
Speaker 2: high school fits.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I have been drawing since I was
Speaker 4: like nine years old. I would go to school and
Speaker 4: I would draw paper cutouts with like different dresses and outfits,
Speaker 4: and I still have literally next to my bedside table.
Speaker 4: I think it's really important to keep things like this
Speaker 4: to remind yourself of like what your inner souls always wanted.
Speaker 4: I made these scrap books that I would I would
Speaker 4: get all these magazines starting from when it was like
Speaker 4: it says two thousand and two, so like I was
Speaker 4: fourteen years old and I started making these scrap books
Speaker 4: where I cut out all of these outfits of different
Speaker 4: celebrities and stuff that I loved or ads that I liked.
Speaker 4: And I have two of them that I made, you know,
Speaker 4: starting from when I was fourteen to win like a
Speaker 4: I was in college, and I keep them next to
Speaker 4: my bed to remind myself, like this is.
Speaker 3: What you love.
Speaker 4: You love clothes, you love just different aesthetics, different vibes,
Speaker 4: putting things to get different outfits together. I mean when
Speaker 4: I was younger I went through so many different phases.
Speaker 4: I followed the crowd a little bit when I was,
Speaker 4: you know, like a preteen, but then when I got
Speaker 4: into high school, I was like, yeah, I'm done doing that.
Speaker 3: And I looked to.
Speaker 4: Different actresses that I loved for inspiration, and I went
Speaker 4: through like a dark face. I was like really into
Speaker 4: I don't know, Ava Green and here Nightly and inteividually
Speaker 4: and I died black and I wanted to be like moody,
Speaker 4: edgy and all that, and so I kind of tried
Speaker 4: to dress like that. It didn't really be translate because
Speaker 4: I was going through awkward phases. Okay, you know, I
Speaker 4: look back on it, and I'm like, nice, try appreciate
Speaker 4: the effort.
Speaker 3: But that's kind of like who I was in high school.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you were you at all? Like was it
Speaker 2: goth or it was just edgy?
Speaker 4: It was I would it was like want to be goth.
Speaker 4: Like I brought ten cards to school. I didn't know
Speaker 4: how to do some I pretended and people would just like.
Speaker 2: And would you do readings?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, that would great.
Speaker 3: I would bullshit my way through the whole entire thing.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many people are probably going through
Speaker 2: life with like, no, this is my life's path because
Speaker 2: I had a tarot reading as a kid, and they
Speaker 2: have no idea that you didn't know what you were doing.
Speaker 2: They like have taken it as gospel.
Speaker 3: Hilarious.
Speaker 2: What are your favorite brands now? Like, what is something
Speaker 2: you're always drooling over looking to buy? Researching? Is it bags?
Speaker 2: What's your go to?
Speaker 4: It's flats. It's flats, like That's where I spend most
Speaker 4: of my money. I'm not really out there buying designer clothes.
Speaker 3: I sick too, like.
Speaker 4: And you know, like as a mom, I you can't
Speaker 4: be like wearing like a new fancy outfit every day.
Speaker 4: So I have like different uniforms that I just alter
Speaker 4: with accessories. And so I'm not buying designer clothes.
Speaker 3: Like I will run, you.
Speaker 4: Know, borrow from style houses and stuff like that and
Speaker 4: use the styles for like red carpet events and parties,
Speaker 4: and I'll wear designer clothes then, but not.
Speaker 3: During my everyday life.
Speaker 4: I spend my money on designer shoes, shoes, not even
Speaker 4: designer handbags. Really, like I don't collect as much because
Speaker 4: I think they're so ridiculously outrageous.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah they are.
Speaker 4: I think like nine thousand dollars for a bag is
Speaker 4: just insane to me. So I get my fix by
Speaker 4: buying designer flats because I love a ballet flat, I
Speaker 4: love a loafer, I love a flat sandal. I'm just
Speaker 4: like anything that's like really cute and flat.
Speaker 2: I am into did you now? I don't think they
Speaker 2: made them flat, but maybe they did. Did they? Did
Speaker 2: Chanelle make the square toe in flats or were they
Speaker 2: just the slingbacks?
Speaker 4: So I do have a I have two pairs of
Speaker 4: Mary Jane Channell's square toes that I absolutely love it
Speaker 4: from last year, and I will run.
Speaker 3: I will wear those until they fall apart.
Speaker 4: I will be eighty nine and I'm gonna still keep
Speaker 4: getting them like resold.
Speaker 3: Yes, as you should, so cute.
Speaker 2: I've been desperate to get a pair of square toes,
Speaker 2: but I because I am only five to one. I've
Speaker 2: recently gotten back into heels. You was almost exclusively a
Speaker 2: flat person, and now I've gotten back into heels.
Speaker 3: I admire the hustle.
Speaker 4: Look we look better in heels, I feel better in heels,
Speaker 4: But I just can't stand being uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I know, it really is pretty miserable.
Speaker 3: I just I can't take it. I'm just that's what
Speaker 3: COVID did to me. It's like we were indoors for too.
Speaker 4: Long that I was like ello, well wearing again only
Speaker 4: when absolutely necessary. But if you're looking for a good
Speaker 4: pair of square toe ballet five, I am Repeto ones.
Speaker 3: I just got the Repetto ones.
Speaker 4: They're not as expensive, but they're so well made, and
Speaker 4: they have like a two inch block heel and there's.
Speaker 2: Two Oh my gosh, Ripetto. I have never even heard
Speaker 2: of this brand information.
Speaker 4: G ballet flat brands like out of Paris or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like they're yes, oh, I will be researching that the
Speaker 2: minute we are done talking. Now I have to assume
Speaker 2: you were. Were you a bit of a theater kid?
Speaker 2: Were you in plays and musicals?
Speaker 3: Yes? I won most talented in my senior class.
Speaker 2: Really, that was yours. Yours is your your hype. It's
Speaker 2: so much more impressive than my mine was best hair.
Speaker 3: That's a great one.
Speaker 2: I mean it's great. I'm not gonna pooh poo it,
Speaker 2: but most talented. Tell me some of your roles. This
Speaker 2: is really your time to shine. Tell us about well
Speaker 2: the one that got me.
Speaker 3: That was playing Gypsy Roseleie in Gypsy. That was fun.
Speaker 2: That's so fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was the minstrel and what was that? Is that?
Speaker 3: The Mattress one the p and the Once upon a Mattress. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We did a showcase where I did all that jazz
Speaker 3: and a few other songs. I was in Into the Woods.
Speaker 3: I hate Into the Woods.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I've never seen it.
Speaker 4: It don't okay, I can't. I actually can't stand it.
Speaker 4: Really singing the whole like if you go and watch
Speaker 4: the movie, it's like singing the whole entire time just
Speaker 4: kind of like makes me feel uncomfortable to watch.
Speaker 3: To live say, it's just say I agree.
Speaker 2: I have a you know, I've said this before and
Speaker 2: it does. It does get me. A lot of people
Speaker 2: don't like it when I say it. I'm just going
Speaker 2: to say that I'm not I'm not a great musical lover.
Speaker 3: That's okay, It's not for everyone. I know everyone needs
Speaker 3: to like everything. I know.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. That does make me feel better. Do
Speaker 2: you have any embarrassing stories from high school? I know
Speaker 2: you are very cool now.
Speaker 4: It wasn't no, but this is the thing I wasn't
Speaker 4: cool in high school. I was thinking, if it's so
Speaker 4: funny that you're asking about high school because I'm about
Speaker 4: to record with Taylor Strekker, who you are graduates?
Speaker 2: Who I was gonna talk to you about later.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I'm like planning what we're talking about today.
Speaker 4: And I just like saw a TikTok with We're a
Speaker 4: Lady talking about how gen Z has basically erased like
Speaker 4: the idea of the.
Speaker 3: Cool kid, and I'm like did. I was like, did
Speaker 3: we have cool kids in high school? Because I went
Speaker 3: to an all girls Catholic school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so like there was no to me, there was
Speaker 4: no hierarchy of like who was cool and who wasn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't like really go to parties. I didn't like drink,
Speaker 4: I didn't like date, and I had just like my
Speaker 4: core group of like five best friends and we just
Speaker 4: like hung out with each other and what we wanted
Speaker 4: on the weekends. We didn't really care what anybody thought.
Speaker 4: We kind of just like we're a bit of like
Speaker 4: loaners like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I.
Speaker 4: Wasn't like really cool. I'm trying to think of like
Speaker 4: embarrassing memories. My senior year, there was a rumor that
Speaker 4: I had sex with my one of my teachers. What,
Speaker 4: I was a virgin, But I actually it's not that embarrassing.
Speaker 4: I felt really cool because I was a virgin.
Speaker 2: You were like, people think I've had sex.
Speaker 3: They think I'm a batty, they think I'm a baddy.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's crazy. Who do you think? Do
Speaker 2: you suspect who started that rumor?
Speaker 3: No, but I did think this teacher was really cute.
Speaker 2: You were like, I wish it was true.
Speaker 3: I wish it was true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, was he a young teacher or was
Speaker 2: he Yes? Okay, I was a young teacher and you
Speaker 2: were a senior in high school, and you're like, I
Speaker 2: can't believe I've got this rep I know.
Speaker 4: It felt so cool because again, like I wasn't out
Speaker 4: partying and like doing things.
Speaker 3: I wasn't sneaking out of my house. I was straight a.
Speaker 3: I followed the rules. I like, you know, that's very
Speaker 3: much who I was.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh my god, this is maybe they
Speaker 4: can just I remember like thinking like maybe they can
Speaker 4: just like feel the chemistry if.
Speaker 2: Everyone can see what I'm feeling. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 2: wonder if the fact that you weren't aware of there
Speaker 2: being a hierarchy, meant that you were the cool girl
Speaker 2: without knowing it. Like I wonder if we were to
Speaker 2: ask other people at your school if they would be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: Stossie and her friends were the cool kids.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I've never really thought about it, you know, because the
Speaker 2: fact that you were like, I don't, I don't, I
Speaker 2: can't name the cool group. Maybe you just were the
Speaker 2: cool group, which is great because you were you got
Speaker 2: along with everybody, and you didn't. You weren't thinking about
Speaker 2: what other people were doing. You were just like hanging
Speaker 2: with your friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just did thing. Oh my gosh, and yell
Speaker 3: ever thought about that before?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what.
Speaker 4: My twentieth high school reunions coming up, and I'm like
Speaker 4: debating whether I can go or not.
Speaker 3: I'd love to ask some people.
Speaker 2: I think you should go. I think you should go
Speaker 2: and ask people be Like I was recently on a podcast,
Speaker 2: who would you say? You don't have to frame it
Speaker 2: like was like cool? Who would you say was cool?
Speaker 2: What was cool?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Who do you remember thinking like, oh, man, if I
Speaker 2: if I were cool, I'd be like that person and
Speaker 2: see what you say because I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 2: it's like you and your friends.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, have you ever seen romy Michelle's high school?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course.
Speaker 4: I just rewatched that the other day and I was like, Hartford,
Speaker 4: I know you're not old enough, but we're gonna sit
Speaker 4: and watch it now.
Speaker 2: Hartford is your five year old daughter, right, yes, and
Speaker 2: you have two kids and a three year old boy.
Speaker 3: He's about to be three in September.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Do you notice a big differences between
Speaker 2: having a boy and having a girl.
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Why are they so different?
Speaker 4: They're so different and like this is the thing, like
Speaker 4: Hartford was like a difficult toddler.
Speaker 3: But nothing actually, like you know, prepares you for boy energy.
Speaker 4: I know, they just don't stop like everything like actually,
Speaker 4: like people do try and prepare you. They talk about
Speaker 4: how like boy are crazy. Boys are insaying boys are different,
Speaker 4: but like it really is true in my opinion, in.
Speaker 2: My experience, my experience, Yeah.
Speaker 3: They're just tornadoes.
Speaker 4: Like if it were up to Hartford, they would just
Speaker 4: sit and play together, love each other, take care of
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 3: But Messer's like, no, I'm here to shit up.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, why I why would I sit in color.
Speaker 2: Oh I think not, Yes, yeah, my kids wake up.
Speaker 2: I've always described it as like six thirty in the morning,
Speaker 2: opening the door and my son. I'll never forget my
Speaker 2: son standing up in his crib and going I am
Speaker 2: and I was like, already, this is just from literally
Speaker 2: opened his eyeballs and was in Hulk character and then
Speaker 2: just go go, go, go, go, go go until they
Speaker 2: lay their head on the pillow, and then it's just
Speaker 2: like yeah, and that's the only it's the only piece
Speaker 2: you get.
Speaker 3: That's it. I have two boys, so it's just I know,
Speaker 3: what are their age differences?
Speaker 2: How old are My oldest just turned seven and my
Speaker 2: youngest is about to be five, so there's twenty six
Speaker 2: months between the two of them.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Harford and Messer a little bit,
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know, yeah, I know what it's like. Well,
Speaker 2: you wasted no time as a teenager. You moved out
Speaker 2: to la at just eighteen years old to pursue a
Speaker 2: career in Hollywood. Did you know anyone out here? I
Speaker 2: feel like that could be such a scary choice.
Speaker 4: So I've always felt a connection to La because my
Speaker 4: grandparents had a home out here, and so we would
Speaker 4: take or my dad would take me and my brother
Speaker 4: out here every summer and I would experience life in
Speaker 4: Los Angeles. You know, so I felt like it was
Speaker 4: I was always been like tied to it, drawn to it.
Speaker 4: I had family out here so that I didn't feel
Speaker 4: completely alone.
Speaker 3: I was always going to end up here.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so it just felt like a second home
Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, okay. Do you remember any weird moments
Speaker 2: in that first year in LA where you going to auditions,
Speaker 2: did you have a job, did you meet me weirdos?
Speaker 3: That could be a four day long podcast.
Speaker 4: I even remember the first day that I moved here
Speaker 4: was actually on my birthday, Okay, it was on my
Speaker 4: fourth It was my nineteenth birthday. It was the day
Speaker 4: that I moved here. And this is before like phones
Speaker 4: where you have like the map on your phone. I
Speaker 4: didn't have a map on like in my car, Like
Speaker 4: it was a physical map. And I was transferring to
Speaker 4: Loyola Marry Mountain. I started like summer school there, and
Speaker 4: I had to like print out.
Speaker 3: Map quest directions to Merrymount and then to Target.
Speaker 4: And I bought a boxed DVDs of Saved by the
Speaker 4: Bell because like that was one of my comfort shows also,
Speaker 4: and so I spent my eighteenth birthday alone in a dorm.
Speaker 4: It's like watching Saved by the Bell eating like your
Speaker 4: no pizza. So that was like the start of my
Speaker 4: journey here. But there were a trillion weird moments. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't even.
Speaker 3: Know how to narrow it down. Collyhood can be really weird.
Speaker 4: You need to have a strong sense of self to.
Speaker 3: Be able to get out of weird situations.
Speaker 4: You have to I think I I'm really lucky that
Speaker 4: I have like this weird intuition where like when I
Speaker 4: enter a room, if the vibes are off, you can
Speaker 4: find feeling it right away, and I'm leaving like I'm out.
Speaker 4: I don't care if I feel weird about something. I
Speaker 4: could just enter a room and feel like the vibes
Speaker 4: are off, I'm out. Yeah, you're like, Okay, I'm really
Speaker 4: lucky to like get myself out of weird situations.
Speaker 2: But like start place, it actually just is a weird
Speaker 2: place that I think. It's just yeah, it can be.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: Do you have a worst job that you remember, like like, oh, this,
Speaker 2: of all the jobs I've ever had, this is the worst.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was a Halloween costume model.
Speaker 2: That kind of sounds amazing. What did you not like it?
Speaker 2: I mean, of course you had to be sexy cats.
Speaker 2: Sexy cat I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like a lot of like sexy stuff.
Speaker 4: And so I'm just like that wasn't the best. And
Speaker 4: it was like really weird the way that like they
Speaker 4: auditioned us, Like we had to drive to their house.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say, like, so I modeled for multiple
Speaker 4: Halloween costume companies, so like I'm not gonna say which
Speaker 4: one it is. Okay, we had to drive to their
Speaker 4: house and I probably found out about this on model.
Speaker 3: Mayhemm remember that? Yeah? Yes, embarrassing, Okay. I had to
Speaker 3: drive to their house and they wasn't it. They weren't.
Speaker 4: It's not like this like man and woman. They weren't
Speaker 4: even like in a dining room or a sitting area
Speaker 4: or a living room. I was instructed to go upstairs to.
Speaker 3: Their room and they weren't just laying in bed, just.
Speaker 4: Like they're fully clothed and all that stuff, right, laying
Speaker 4: in bed as of like that's like kind of where
Speaker 4: they hang out, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, so like I'm not somebody who eats in my bed.
Speaker 3: I sleep and correct and watch TikTok in my bed.
Speaker 3: That's what I do. It's like they kind of lived.
Speaker 4: Out of their bedroom and I walked in and they
Speaker 4: were just like okay, like show me your like stomach
Speaker 4: in your boobs with your bathing suit on, and so
Speaker 4: I kind of just had to like lift up my
Speaker 4: shirt and they were like okay, great, we'll be in touch,
Speaker 4: and like that's how I got how you got the job.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, wow, that's strange.
Speaker 3: That was weird.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a weird job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a weird one.
Speaker 2: That is a weird one. I will say that when
Speaker 2: you first mentioned trying on, you know, modeling Halloween costumes,
Speaker 2: I did think, well, that's fun. After hearing the audition process.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's what made it weird. Like you're right,
Speaker 3: that's like, of.
Speaker 4: Course, trying on costumes and like doing different hair and
Speaker 4: makeup like that part of it does become fun. Yeah,
Speaker 4: It's just like there was like an undercurrent of weirdness
Speaker 4: no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime someone asks you to come into their bedroom,
Speaker 2: you're like hmm okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I'm gonna be so annoyed after this episode,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna think of so many
Speaker 4: other jobs that were so much worse than that. I
Speaker 4: just like don't know why they're not popping up in
Speaker 4: my head right now.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. There's so many odd jobs, but
Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily mean they were the worst. I think
Speaker 2: you picked a pretty good one because you're you just
Speaker 2: mentioned that you could walk into a room and feel
Speaker 2: the vibes were off, and I think that's the that
Speaker 2: came to your mind as your first worst job for
Speaker 2: a reason. Yeah, your reality TV career started much earlier
Speaker 2: than when you first met Lisa vander Pump. You were
Speaker 2: on The Amazing Race at just sixteen years old with
Speaker 2: your dad, your stepmom, and your younger brother. How did
Speaker 2: that happen?
Speaker 3: I think that's like really my origin story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like you were born on that day that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that's where it all began.
Speaker 4: So my dad was really obsessed with Survivor and The
Speaker 4: Amazing Race and he had been aud auditioning for the
Speaker 4: first Survivor and never got it.
Speaker 3: Would come close, but never got it.
Speaker 4: And then he saw after like one episode of the
Speaker 4: Amazing Race. They were doing a family audition and he
Speaker 4: was like took it as a sign from God and
Speaker 4: like made us all make an audition video like the
Speaker 4: old school way submit it. We got called. Then we
Speaker 4: went through all these.
Speaker 3: Rounds of auditions and.
Speaker 4: Stuff like that, and we finally made it on the show.
Speaker 4: We got like eliminated like in like episode I after
Speaker 4: like the fourth episode or something in New Orleans, which
Speaker 4: was so embarrassing.
Speaker 3: But that's when like, I guess I got the reality TV.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if it's even the bug because
Speaker 4: I felt like I never chased it. Like after that,
Speaker 4: I moved to la and the same people who cast
Speaker 4: me on The Amazing Race someone called me and was like,
Speaker 4: we also want you to do this reality show for
Speaker 4: the End Network called Queen Bees.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, sure, sum me up. What's it about.
Speaker 4: They're like, it's about like you know, the they worded
Speaker 4: it differently than when we got there. They were like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's like popular girls that like are gonna
Speaker 4: like hang out with each other and live in a
Speaker 4: house for like a month, and we were like I
Speaker 4: was like okay, And then I came to find out
Speaker 4: it was like the bitchy girls that need to be reformed.
Speaker 2: That's what's a beast for.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I still was even okay with it. I
Speaker 3: was like, I can make up stories.
Speaker 4: I like made up stories that I would like haze
Speaker 4: people in cemeteries, like I didn't do any of that,
Speaker 4: but I was like, I'll lean in, you know, for
Speaker 4: the sake of a show. And then after that, like
Speaker 4: Vanner Pumper was literally landed in my lap because I
Speaker 4: was actually just working at Sir restaurant, and then the
Speaker 4: producers came in there, like we want to do a
Speaker 4: show about you guys.
Speaker 3: So it was like destiny.
Speaker 2: It was just destiny. It was like once you, once
Speaker 2: you dipped your toe into reality TV, reality TV really
Speaker 2: sank its claws into you.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: I also truly love that there are there are so
Speaker 2: many people out there who wouldn't have to make up
Speaker 2: stories about them doing bad things. And you were literally
Speaker 2: like I was, I was really good. I was a
Speaker 2: really good girl, and i didn't never get in an
Speaker 2: any trouble, So I'm gonna have to make up stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you.
Speaker 2: Just leaned in. I love that. So did you ever
Speaker 2: have reservations about starring on reality TV with vander Pump
Speaker 2: like or was.
Speaker 4: Yeh yeah, because I had been just slowly eased into it.
Speaker 3: And I also think that that's what keeps me like.
Speaker 4: Normal right now, is that like I never had like
Speaker 4: overnight success. Right.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I we did.
Speaker 4: The Amazing Race, and I get like a little taste
Speaker 4: of like what fame is and what it means for
Speaker 4: people to know you or whisper about you or.
Speaker 3: Talk about you.
Speaker 4: Right, and then I, you know, did this like Queen
Speaker 4: Bee Show, and it's just like a little bit more you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, And I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 4: And then but like I'm still like broke, like having
Speaker 4: to work, get a job, work at a restaurant all that.
Speaker 4: Like I'm still like staying stayed humble. And then we
Speaker 4: get Banner Pump Rolls and we never felt as a
Speaker 4: cast like we were successful, Like we never felt that
Speaker 4: way like it. I think like the first time that
Speaker 4: I felt like a successful person was like not until
Speaker 4: like season five, when I was like getting opportunities because
Speaker 4: of my podcast. Like I never felt like in the
Speaker 4: I think the whole cast would say the same thing,
Speaker 4: like we we didn't get really get paid a lot
Speaker 4: of money until or a decent amount until.
Speaker 3: Like season three, and even so.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like that much and so it was very
Speaker 4: slow and it was like niche, I don't really remember
Speaker 4: it like fully popping off.
Speaker 3: So like to this day, it's like, are we successful?
Speaker 3: Are we well know? We like don't we don't know?
Speaker 2: You definitely are? I mean, I understand how, you know,
Speaker 2: back in twenty twelve, it's a little it's a little
Speaker 2: before like the Bravo verse became what it is now.
Speaker 2: So I can see how there was like a slow
Speaker 2: building of calluses to what it meant to be a
Speaker 2: reality TV star because you had little tastes of it
Speaker 2: and it wasn't quite as mainstream as it is now.
Speaker 2: But I I mean, I think it is always It's
Speaker 2: one of my favorite things when big stars are interviewed
Speaker 2: on a red carpet, from Seth Rogan to Meryl Streep
Speaker 2: to Rihanna to Michelle Obama and they are all obsessed
Speaker 2: with Bravo and in a lot of cases, specifically vander
Speaker 2: Pump Rules, there are great red carpet videos of celebrities
Speaker 2: fangirling when they meet anyone from the shows. Have you
Speaker 2: had any like real surprising run ins with famous people
Speaker 2: who surprisingly know all about your personal life.
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lawrence was a big one that was so great.
Speaker 4: I remember remember she got my number from I had
Speaker 4: like Amy Schumer and Andy Cohen dming me and they
Speaker 4: can I have your number?
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lawrence wants it and I'm like what, And I
Speaker 3: remember I.
Speaker 4: Was watching it was like the final scene of a
Speaker 4: season of Game of Thrones rip.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I know. And I had like no
Speaker 3: makeup on.
Speaker 4: I was with bo at the time in my apartment
Speaker 4: and I had like rose, I was Rose shout out.
Speaker 3: My psoriasis was flaring. I looked like I'd just been
Speaker 3: like like I don't know, like hit by a bus.
Speaker 3: Like I was like, not cute.
Speaker 4: I saw that Jennifer Lawrence was facetiming me, and like
Speaker 4: I was like I have to answer, and so she
Speaker 4: right after they had DMed me this, she facetimed me.
Speaker 3: And that was just like a crazy awesome moment.
Speaker 2: What did she say? Did she just say I love you?
Speaker 1: I can't even.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think it blacked out. I don't even remember
Speaker 3: what she said.
Speaker 4: But ever since then, she's always been really lovely. If
Speaker 4: I'd ever run into her and stuff like that. But
Speaker 4: I remember just being like, oh my god, she's seeing
Speaker 4: me at my absolute worst right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. When fans run up to
Speaker 2: me on the street and they have questions about a
Speaker 2: completely fictional character I played, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: But with you, they have to have full on opinions
Speaker 2: about your love life and your friends and associated drama
Speaker 2: and your actual existence. Does that ever make you feel
Speaker 2: kind of crazy that people just freely share their opinions
Speaker 2: on your real life.
Speaker 4: People have shared their opinions to my face less and less.
Speaker 3: It used to happen a lot more on Vanner pump roles.
Speaker 4: Okay, where I'd be like, okay, be like I think
Speaker 4: that you should give Jacks another shot, just like things
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you. So it used to be like that.
Speaker 3: Now people are.
Speaker 4: More so come up and they want to talk about
Speaker 4: my kids and my husband and they just like compliment, right,
Speaker 4: family and stuff like that. I think the most unnerving thing, really, though,
Speaker 4: is like when people come up and they've only seen
Speaker 4: like the first few seasons of Vanner Pumples, or they're
Speaker 4: just starting it.
Speaker 3: Or something, and they see me in person and.
Speaker 4: They think I'm this like tough girl bitch, right, and
Speaker 4: they like come up to me with the same energy
Speaker 4: and they're like, I'm a bitch too, and I'm like
Speaker 4: you and me like we're the same, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm I'm so sorry to break this to you,
Speaker 3: like I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm tired now, Like it's really it's not. I'm
Speaker 4: actually like really polite in person, Like I don't I'm
Speaker 4: not like bitchy to stranger. It's like I'm a raging,
Speaker 4: lunatic bitch when someone betrays me, right right, I mean
Speaker 4: that's when.
Speaker 3: That comes out. I'm not like that to just like
Speaker 3: people on the street. That's how I operate.
Speaker 4: But people want me to be tough when they meet me,
Speaker 4: and I feel like I kind of like let them
Speaker 4: down because I'm just like that sweetness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Can I give you a hug? Yes? I know.
Speaker 2: You hosted the Mormon Wives Season three reunion and I
Speaker 2: am sure you followed the situation around Taylor Frankie Paul
Speaker 2: and since you've been vocal about your own struggles when
Speaker 2: personal growth and how hard it is to sometimes live
Speaker 2: a normal life while surrounded by reality TV cameras. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to hear your take on where do you
Speaker 2: think she goes from here? What do you think the
Speaker 2: next step ish for her?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: God, I really do care about all of those girls
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 4: I feel like I might have like big sister energy whenever,
Speaker 4: like they're in town, I see them, whenever I'm like
Speaker 4: near them, like we make it a point to have
Speaker 4: like lunch, dinner and hang out. I really care about them,
Speaker 4: which has made this very hard for me to stomach.
Speaker 4: Like the videos you know that we're out there and
Speaker 4: circulating really hurt to see. And so there's like a
Speaker 4: you know, the mom in me at first wants to
Speaker 4: just be like how could you? But then the human
Speaker 4: being in me is like, we don't know what drove her.
Speaker 3: To I don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't see them before.
Speaker 4: You don't see the before. And I think that's really important.
Speaker 4: I think that as long as you are breathing and living,
Speaker 4: you are able to change who you are and who
Speaker 4: you if who you are is not who you want
Speaker 4: to be at any moment in life.
Speaker 3: That is the beauty of living.
Speaker 4: Is that, like it is never too late to shift
Speaker 4: the narrative of your life to change the story the
Speaker 4: trajectory of your life, to change shift who.
Speaker 3: You are are.
Speaker 4: And I think that she has this opportunity, especially when
Speaker 4: you feel like you're at the lowest point in your life.
Speaker 4: That to me is a great gift, because the sky's
Speaker 4: the limit. You can be any when you want to be.
Speaker 4: When you're on top of the world, you're too scared
Speaker 4: to change yourself and you're not thinking of changing yourself
Speaker 4: or of being better because why you're getting everything you want.
Speaker 3: But like when you're.
Speaker 4: At the lowest place, you can make that decision to
Speaker 4: be better. I would love to see her just like
Speaker 4: take a break from social media and like heal herself
Speaker 4: and then in a year or two like come back
Speaker 4: and like really inspire the rest.
Speaker 3: Of the world. Like that's like what I want for Taylor.
Speaker 2: Frank you, Paul, I think that's so smart. The taking
Speaker 2: a break from social media is so important. I don't
Speaker 2: think when you're in it you realize how much of
Speaker 2: an impact it's having on your day to day decisions
Speaker 2: and even just your you're thinking, you know, you're so
Speaker 2: I I completely agree with you, and I hope she
Speaker 2: does that as well. I have a question that is
Speaker 2: very important. We are both ranch dressing aficionados experts, even
Speaker 2: we can both acknowledge that not all ranch is created equal.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I am absolutely no. What do you think makes a
Speaker 2: good ranch dressing?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: To me, it's just like the homemade packet, like you
Speaker 4: give you buy the ranch packet, the Hidden Valley still
Speaker 4: still Hidden Valley ranch packet and you make that with
Speaker 4: you know, sour creb and mayonnaise than milk, like the
Speaker 4: real way, and like that, you know, I like it
Speaker 4: to be. It's like a concert distancy because like the
Speaker 4: bottled Hidden Valley is not the same and doesn't even
Speaker 4: have safe flavor. It's actually kind of crazy. It is
Speaker 4: literally actual apples and oranges.
Speaker 3: You can compare the two. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: it's the right consistency.
Speaker 4: It can't be too liquidy, it can't be too gelice, yes, gelatinous.
Speaker 4: It also has to have like the right amount of
Speaker 4: just like dill sting. I don't want a weak ranch. Nope,
Speaker 4: don't give me a flavorless ranch. But it's like when
Speaker 4: you know it, like when you find it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, oh yeah, I mean, for example, have you had
Speaker 2: the ranch dressing at Mel's Diner?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, a great ranch.
Speaker 4: Nothing's better than like an iceberg salad with like cheddar
Speaker 4: cheese and like shredded garrets and some tomatoes and that ranch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ranch perfect. Also, that's what that was my
Speaker 2: go to at soup Plantation. That just oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: you're missing out. Well, now you gotta go. Now, you
Speaker 2: gotta find a sweet tomatoes or sweet whatever. The the
Speaker 2: heck is this sweet tomato that's the sister sister property
Speaker 2: to sup Plantation. What's it called Easton? Is that right?
Speaker 2: Not sweet tomatoes? It is sweet tomatoes. Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. Look at me, second guessing myself.
Speaker 2: They have a great ranch as well. Also Red Robin
Speaker 2: has a wonderful ranch. Do we have those in La yet?
Speaker 2: Well in Northridge, there's one in Northridge. I can tell
Speaker 2: you all the locations. I'll send you.
Speaker 4: Mean chain restaurant most of the times out of ten
Speaker 4: will have the.
Speaker 2: Best ranches, correct and diners, diners chains, that's that's going
Speaker 2: to be the go to. Well, I'm glad we agree
Speaker 2: about this. So you are ramping back up now for
Speaker 2: a whole new era of stardom. House of Stassy debuts
Speaker 2: on freeform and then streams the following day on Hulu
Speaker 2: and Hulu on Disney Plus. Tell me why you wanted
Speaker 2: to do this show and start this journey all over again.
Speaker 3: Well, this has been a long ass journey.
Speaker 4: We started this like over three and a half years ago,
Speaker 4: before I even conceived my son.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I just, you know.
Speaker 4: Going back to the fact that, like I started being
Speaker 4: on reality TV when I was sixteen years old, It's
Speaker 4: always just felt like a part of me, Like I've
Speaker 4: spent longer on reality TV than off, and I wasn't
Speaker 4: like my story was never just going to like end
Speaker 4: at vander Pump Rules, like that was not going to
Speaker 4: just be like it.
Speaker 3: And then I'm I'm done.
Speaker 4: So I always knew that I wanted to just like
Speaker 4: do something else. But after I had kids, I was like,
Speaker 4: if I'm not the executive producer of it, yep, then no. So,
Speaker 4: like I knew that if I was ever going to
Speaker 4: do something, I would have to go and make it
Speaker 4: happen myself, because I never wanted to put myself or
Speaker 4: my family in a situation where like it's we have
Speaker 4: no control over anything.
Speaker 2: Right over how you're edited and made to look.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and trust, like people are going to watch
Speaker 4: this and be like she let this all out there,
Speaker 4: Like I don't look great all the time on this show,
Speaker 4: but like I wanted to be able to control what
Speaker 4: people see in my children. Yeah, was it non negotiable?
Speaker 4: And I just think reality TV is fun. It's just
Speaker 4: like who I am. Yeah, and so I wanted to
Speaker 4: make it happen the way that I wanted to do it.
Speaker 2: That's so great. And your husband is on the show.
Speaker 2: What has that been like for you?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what. I didn't realize that he was
Speaker 3: going to take my advice just like so so well.
Speaker 3: Actually I'd been like.
Speaker 4: Preparing him, being like, what if you know, if we
Speaker 4: get greenlit and we do this show, you need to
Speaker 4: be completely honest. You need to share your feelings and
Speaker 4: your thoughts.
Speaker 3: You can't sweep things under the rug.
Speaker 4: You need to just like even if it's like about me,
Speaker 4: like we have to just like be completely truthful.
Speaker 3: And he really took it seriously.
Speaker 2: I was like, you were like, you don't have to
Speaker 2: be that.
Speaker 4: I don't have to.
Speaker 3: Well you have to, I know, I said too, but
Speaker 3: like you have to. You didn't know.
Speaker 2: This is the time you choose to listen to me.
Speaker 3: You could have told me this before we started shooting exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh. I love that. I love when they pick and
Speaker 2: choose the times to really take your advice to heart.
Speaker 2: You know, guys, I have so much more to talk
Speaker 2: to Stassy about. And so this Friday, we have a
Speaker 2: bonus episode with a former vander Pump star dropping on
Speaker 2: our dedicated teen Beat feed. All you have to do
Speaker 2: is search for teen Beat wherever you get your podcasts
Speaker 2: and subscribe. That way, you never miss another episode. We'll
Speaker 2: be talking about her runway debut for the Sports Illustrated
Speaker 2: Swimsuit Show and her new show House of Stassy, which
Speaker 2: debuts July twenty ninth on free Form, then available to
Speaker 2: stream the following day on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus.
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