1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: What's Up Its Big loan from It's Up That Podcast. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: On this episode, we're unpacking the difference between toxic love 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: and a real bond. How so many of us will 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: talk to survive love instead of experiencing it. A lot 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: of men think being solid means being silent. I'm good, 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: I got it. That's the script we memorize before we 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: even know ourselves, because somewhere along the line, expression got 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: label weakness. So now we perform composure while we're falling apart. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: We rehearse strength until we forget what honesty sounds like. 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: The danger is performance feels powerful. People applaud you, heat 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: don't fold, But endurance ain't the same as evolution. Silence 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: in your relationship looks like silencing your health. You won't 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: ask what's wrong, you won't say what hurts. You will 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: hide the question that can save your life. In the 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: name of pride. You will share bed with someone you 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't share a boundary with. You'll share your body, but 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: not a conversation with. And that's not intimacy. That exposure 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: without connection can cost both people. We know love becomes 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: performing if honestly becomes a threat. See we grew up 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: watching chaos and calling a commitment watching survival, I remember 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: calling survival love. So now when something peaceful shows up, 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: it feels suspicious. When accountability shows up, it feels suspicious. 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: We say it's too calm, it's too unfamiliar. The only 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: thing we ever trusted was tension. But real love does 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: not require chaos to confirm its presence. You can't mention 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: connection by how much pain you survive. It's about how 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: much truth you can sustain. If you can say I 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: love you, you can say when were you tested and 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: where were you tested. If you can tell someone what 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: turns you on, you can tell then what keeps you safe. 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: We got to have real conversations with one another. We 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: argue about lordie, please discuss your protection. 33 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: Silence is not strength. It's self sabotage. 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: With a deep voice, you think you're protecting peace, but 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: you're just providing dysfunction. An APA study says men are 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: half as likely to discuss emotional or physical health with partners, 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: and twice it's likely to suffer from the consequences and 38 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: to do it in silence. I want you to understand 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: what that means for us, we call it. 40 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: Being a man. To carry it and deal with it 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: in silence. 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: But what if being a man really means you care 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: enough to communicate. That's how we perform manhood. See, we 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: rehearse strength until we forgot what honesty sounds like. Somewhere 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: beneath I'm good and I got it. We lost the 46 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: ability to tell the truth. We don't tell her when 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: we're tired. We don't tell her when we're scared. We 48 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: don't tell them when we unsure. We think love would 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: even see that as weakness, being vulnerable. We think love 50 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: is see being vulnerable as weakness. You know, besidelencing your 51 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: relationship looks a lot like silencing your health. You won't 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: ask what's really wrong, you won't talk about what really matters. 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: You'll share your body, but not your truth. That's not intimacy, 54 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: that's performance. And listen, I get it. We're never talked 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: to be soft, only to survive. So now when we 56 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: feel that calmness that love brings, that atmosphere that love 57 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: gives off and radiates from real love, it feels suspicious. 58 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: When peace shows up, we think it's a setup because 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: the only love we saw growing up was chaotic, loud, competitive, conditional. 60 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: Somewhere along the lines, we learn that the loudest one 61 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: in the room is I'll let you finish that. Growing 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: up in chaos, you will want to do anything for 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: your peace, but the conditional love would have you look 64 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: at things through a different lens. So now we mistake 65 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: peace for boredom. We mistake understanding for weakness. But love 66 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: is not supposed to join you. It's supposed to align you. 67 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Align you with your truth, align you with your beliefs, 68 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: align you with your goals, and alignment that even means truth. 69 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: If you can say I love you, you can say 70 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: when way you tested. These are the real conversations we 71 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: must now have with our community and the next generation. 72 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: And we can create a safe space because if I 73 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: share my bed with you, I should be able to 74 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: share my truth. 75 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: You can't claim lordy if you hide your reality. 76 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Stop performing strength and start practicing safety, because silence just 77 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: doesn't hold the connection. 78 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: It builds resentment. 79 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: We think we're protecting peace by not speaking, but really 80 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: we're protecting dysfunction. You know, there's nothing strong about a 81 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: man who dies protecting his pride. And I was taught 82 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: strength is the ability to lead with truth, even when 83 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: it costs you your image, even when it costs the vibe, 84 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: even when it costs someone being uncomfortable about the situation. 85 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: That will in strength is the ability to lead with truth. 86 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Love without clarity is just chaos and it's dressed up. 87 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: And let's be real. The next time you say I'm good, 88 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: ask yourself, are you really good? Or are you just 89 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: avoiding the real conversation? Because one will heal you and 90 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: the other will hunt you again. Being a leader is 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: just not about the image. It's the integrity. Real love 92 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: isn't loud, it's consistent. It's the small things. The small 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: check in is the shared accountability, the honesty. It feels awkward, 94 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: but keeps everyone safe, the questions, the real conversation's had. 95 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: It's what makes you family. 96 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: Stop confusing numbness with dependability. The quiet one isn't always 97 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: the solid one. Sometimes he's the scared one. You can't 98 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: lead in silence because leadership requires clarity, and clarity requires 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: that you prove that you care. You show that you care. 100 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: And that's the shift we're gonna make from image to integrity. 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: Don't die protecting the idea of manhood that never protected you. 102 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: Ask the question, start to talk right now. We gotta 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: break the cycle and break the pattern because the next 104 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: generation deserves to inherit more than just our silence. How 105 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: do we deal with these things with one another? Healthy 106 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: love starts with an honest start, and that includes health itself. 107 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: So when you say I'm good, meaning don't ask it. 108 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: When you say I love you, let it be in 109 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: protection in motion, not performance on repeat. Because a man 110 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: who leads with honesty, he doesn't just protect his partner, 111 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: he preserves his own legacy. This special episode of It's 112 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: Up That Podcast with Loan brought to you by Healthy 113 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: Sexual from mc gilead Sciences