1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: What time tomorrow you gonna tell me who's pritching? Not listen, 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: it's not pritching. I would repairs a lot like baseball. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: You've got to learn when you have to swing the 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: bat and go for the home run, and learn when 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: you've got to, you know, take the short deal and 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: try and solve the problem in a different manner than 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: you might normally would Ready today, look at me, the 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Does your scan tool read data stream? Eric? No, 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: here's a good reason to go buy a better scan tool. 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: Go buy a scan tool that reads fuel trium. You 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: know you've got to see where we're at. What's the number? 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage to or are open, 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls. At eight 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: five and now running, Tom asked me, as we were 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: getting ready to do the show today, how is your week? 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: And I, you know, I thought about it. I said, 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: how was my week? The week? It was a struggle. 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: It's I can tell it's a full moon because it 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: just I don't know, there's something different about the energy 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: of the day that just you can tell we're like 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: getting over this apex and then it'll be over the 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: other side, and expect this next week to get a 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: little easier, or so I thought. I had an O 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: seven g mc envoy this week that another shop had 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: been working on for a while, and you know, they 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: had thrown a bunch of parts at it and they 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: weren't getting anywhere, and you know, they called me, I'll 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: put me in coach, as the expression is, and um, 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'll do what I do. And the problem 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: with this vehicle was it would shut off. You'd be 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: driving along and it would shut off at random, and 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: it seemed to time out sort of every thirty to 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: forty five minutes it would shut off, and then I 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: noticed it would start to do it at different intervals. 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes I did it in twenty minutes, sometimes it took 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: two hours. It was just this oddball intermittent my car 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: is dead thing and it wouldn't restart. So I, you know, 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: I did my due diligence. And if one thing I've 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: learned over the course of the years. Is a diagnostic 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: routine just pays dividends, It really does. You've got to 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: do the same thing every time if you want to 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: fix the car as it quickly and efficiently as possible, 47 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: because you can fix it, but how efficiently. So I 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: ran through codes and it's spit out somewhere. I lost 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: counting I don't know sixteen seventeen different fault codes. And 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: naturally you say to yourself, well, what did the last 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: shop create an induce what did they put into the 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: system that's not really supposed to be there? So I 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: wrote down all the information, I stored it, I printed it, 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: and and boy, you know that opus I VS. Scan 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: tool we've been working with again, and here we go. 56 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Uh you know, it just does the job each and 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: every time. Stored everything. It gave me the ability to 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: look at freeze frame, It gave me the ability to 59 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: look at history. It gave me the ability to look 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: at codes that the other shop might have cleared before 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: they even brought it to me. Crazy. This tool is 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: like off the chart and narrowed it down after reviewing 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: everything to faults in the power train control Relay Relay 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: Number sixty Powertrain Control Relay controls, the O two sensors, 65 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the fuel injectors, the ignition coils, the throttle body. Uh. 66 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: You know, if it's connected to the car to make 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: it run, it's connected to power train control Relay number sixty, 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: hence the name power train relay. Right, gee, where do 69 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: you think they got that from? And the fault codes 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: that was setting were directly directly related to a difference 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: in voltage that the PCM was seeing, the power train 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: control module was seeing. They feed the powertrain control module 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: two ways. They feed it directly off the ignition switch, 74 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: or they feed it via the powertrain control relay from 75 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: the ignition switch. And if it's he's a difference in voltage, 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: it says, wait, there's a problem somewhere, and it sets 77 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: a fault coat. At least it tells you which lake 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: to go down and diagnose. And you know, I started 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: monitoring or testing keeping an eye on the powertrain control relay. 80 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: There's four wires. There's a main hot coming in from 81 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: the fuse, there's a hot going out once the relay switches. 82 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: There's the relay input from the ignition switch, and then 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: there's ground. The ground is applied and controlled from the 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: main engine from the powertrain control module yellow wire. I 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: can remember this, You'll remember this one for a while. 86 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: It was the yellow wire pin forty C one connector 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: blue bottom of the PCM down on the right. I 88 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: went to the yellow wire coming out of d D 89 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: D D forty UM at the PCM. I correct myself 90 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: if I said that wrong and the vehicle shut off. 91 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: When the vehicle shut off, I had ground control being 92 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: applied by the PCM, but I had nothing at the 93 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: relay m HM. I found the other end of that 94 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: yellow wire, which is about eighteen inches away, dug up 95 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: the fuse box, which, boy, I could have a conversation 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: about how GM assembles shues boxes like this. This company 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: is just you know, it's easy if you if you 98 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: start to think like the vehicles on an assembly line, 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: you can really take things apart and put them together 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: quickly because they just there's no consideration for um neatness 101 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: in a sense. You gotta live it to understand it. 102 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: But I went to the yellow connector on the bottom 103 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: of the fuse box D one and monitored that ran 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: the vehicle until it's stalled. Vehicle stalled. I had power 105 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: on that or I'm sorry, I had ground control on 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: the yellow feed from the PCM. The relay was off. 107 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: I tested at the relay. The relay had no ground control. 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: That means my problem has to be in the fuse box. 109 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: I said, let me prove this. I took a jumper lead. 110 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: I went from the ground control old signal line where 111 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: I was tapped in under the fuse box, right to 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: the relay. Car started and ran every time, and it 113 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: ran all day long. So I let the car cool 114 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: down one more time because I just wanted to try something. 115 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: And I like doing this because it makes Danny crazy, 116 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: my mechanic. I let it cool down about an hour 117 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: later and I got out my little two ounce bullpeen hammer. 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you want to see something neat. He says, 119 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: what's that? I said, I know what's wrong with this car? 120 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: He goes, really, He goes, that was quick. I said, well, 121 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: I said, you know, it took some time, but I 122 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: know what's wrong with this car. Says the bat fuse box. 123 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: He says, how can you prove it? The car was running? 124 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: I took the two ounces bullpen. I tapped it right 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: where the connector is. The car shut off. It's nice 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: screwing around with the kids right, you make they think 127 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: you're better than you actually are. But UM put a 128 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: fuse box in it. And this is the part that 129 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: I think is really of interest. This is the reason 130 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I tell you these stories, not to tell you that 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: I can fix cars. That's you know, I better be 132 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: able to fix cars because I can't sing and dance. 133 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: And I took that fuse box apart. And I'm gonna 134 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: post this video up on I don't know, I'll put 135 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: it somewhere. I'll start with the car Doctor Facebook page, 136 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and then if I can figure out how I'll get 137 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: a young person to help me, I'll put it over 138 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: on the website. But it's how General Motors built this 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: fuse box back in oh seven. They ran strips of 140 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: copper through a plastic fuse box with little pins, and 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: they would bend the pins to get it over there 142 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: like a roadmap from one terminal to the other what 143 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: they were trying to do. And as the copper strip 144 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: or lug as I call it, came around on a 145 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: sharp bend, over time and heat and stress, it cracked 146 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: and that car would just shut off. That car would 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: just stop working. And I actually I took the fuse 148 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: box apart. I I drilled down and took the spot 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: where nobody could get to it, where General Motors doesn't 150 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: want you to see, you know, it took out the 151 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: magnifying glass and I found the crack in the corp 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: for lug because I knew it how to be in 153 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: there somewhere. It just doesn't die like that for any reason. 154 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: And I kind of felt good about that. But what 155 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: really butt me is is this a sign of the 156 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: times of how they're going to start to build electric cars? 157 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Because all I could think about now is electric cars 158 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: because we've become so accepting of it, like hey, it's 159 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And I keep thinking, you've got to question them, 160 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: all right, just like we question everything else. We've got 161 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: a question how are they gonna cause this to evolve? 162 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: And how are they going to create this electric car? 163 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, if these guys create fuse boxes with 164 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: copper lugs that are stressed out over time because copper 165 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: is at ages gets brittle and it has issues conducting 166 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: all that heat and electricity over time, what's that going 167 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: to do the electric car business? I just but an event. 168 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: I fixed another car, no mystery, and and what really 169 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: got me started on. This was Tom saying how is 170 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: your week? And I said, well, it was a hard week, 171 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: but next week will be easy. And then I stopped 172 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: in at the shop this morning to get the mail 173 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: and there was a message from a customer. He's got 174 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: a Chevy pickup truck that when you turn on the 175 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: cruise control, the car shuts off. When you put it 176 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: in reverse, the car shuts off. When you turn the wheel, 177 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the power steering dies. It's electric power steering. All sorts 178 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: of lights are going off on the dashboard. So I 179 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: guess Monday, I'll just be working on another story to 180 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: tell you next Saturday. And that's um. I just wanted 181 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: one week off. I really did, but I guess I 182 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: don't get it. That's my gig. That's what I do. 183 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: Ron and any of the car doctor here at your 184 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: service at zero nine zero, let's pull over and take 185 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: a pause. I've got a bunch of electric car stories 186 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: to read you today. The research team is hard at 187 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: work and again just citing the facts from different sources. 188 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: And I just ask you to consider it and think 189 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: about it. And you know, it's it's not a question 190 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: of of when, it's a question of if or is 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: it if? And when I'm not sure, I just I'm 192 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: just concerned that we're becoming so accepting because everybody's all 193 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: everybody tells me is Hey, Ron, don't worry. Techn anology 194 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: is going to fix this. Yeah. Technology hasn't fixed a 195 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: lot of things yet, so I think we're counting on 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: a lot to happen. Height five five five six zero 197 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: nine zero. The car doctors coming back right after this. 198 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: Don't go away for the best in car advice. Give 199 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: Ron a call eight five five five six zero nine 200 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Now, BacT. You know, first, I have 201 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: to comment, Tom, You're wearing a T shirt I can 202 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: see in the video here that says hot. Oh it 203 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: says hot one oh seven. Okay. I just want to 204 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: make sure that you weren't being self self serving there. 205 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: So that's okay. Um, I'm always being self serving a lot. 206 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: I understand that you know I'm hot. Who do you 207 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: got for me? First? Uh, this is a friend of mine. 208 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: His name is Kirk. You can tell him would be 209 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: in w stands for well. I was gonna tell him 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: what it means to be Tom Ray's friend, Kirk. I 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: I you have my sympathy, do you know Tom long 212 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: toime for a long time. Brother. We're gonna we're gonna 213 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: do you twice as good as everybody else today. If 214 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: that's possible, then you've earned it. Uh Tom wants me 215 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: to tell you what BMW stands for. Do you know 216 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: what BMW stands for? I don't know what's about to 217 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: come out of your mouth, but I can almost guess, 218 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: and whatever it is, it won't shock me, because I'm 219 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: not entirely happy because of well, well, well, BMW stands 220 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: for a variety of things. The most common is Bavarian 221 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: money waster. So but um, you know, in in non 222 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: politically correct terms, we it's also been referred to as 223 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: bring more wampum um. But I don't think we're allowed 224 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: to say that. You know, we're probably gonna upset somebody 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: if we do so. Um. But anyway, Um, what's going 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: on here? How can I help you? Hey? So I've 227 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: got this two thousand six BMW. It's the X five 228 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: and it's the fifty three of body style that I 229 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: when I do a search to try to fix it. 230 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, that's that seems to narrow it down pretty well. 231 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: And uh so, a couple of years ago I started 232 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: getting uh, you know, the check engine light coming on, 233 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: and it was telling me it was a P four 234 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: nineteen error code, and it said that's the secondary yeah, yeah, yeah, 235 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: And so you know, the first things I looked at. 236 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: The first things online say, well, you need to you 237 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: need to clean or replace the little wires that that 238 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: apparently they run some electricity through to detect um you know, 239 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: how much air is flowing across them. And so I 240 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: got the special spray clean the wires. That didn't help. 241 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I replaced the sensory units, which is at the end 242 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: of an air hose. You know there's a little air 243 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: filter on there about the side of canopies and uh, 244 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: and the wires inside. We've replaced all that about seventy 245 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: bucks and yeah, that that squels the error for a while. 246 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: But one thing I always noticed is when I would 247 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: first start the car up, uh, there was this terrible 248 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: wine noise or from the engine compartment, and then it 249 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: would stop after about ninety seconds maybe, And I kind 250 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: of figured that must be that secondary air pump. It's 251 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: pumping extra air into the crank case. Probably some e 252 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: p A requirement. I'm sure you know about that. And 253 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: then I don't know when it stopped. At some point, 254 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: I just realized, you know, I've never heard that noise anymore. Yeah, 255 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: I still got in four. So what kind of surprised me, Doc, 256 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: is that I've got one of those code readers and 257 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I can clear the error right and and if I 258 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: cleared after the morning drive, it doesn't appear again that day, 259 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: typically because the engine is already warm. Maybe I don't know. 260 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: I took it to the emissions place. I cleared the air, 261 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: but they're scanner still said, and I don't know. You've 262 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: got you've got problems in there you need to fix 263 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: even though the air is cleared. Uh, Nope, you've got 264 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: other errors in there. Uh that all head down and 265 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: they had to do with the same issue, the same 266 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: secondary air pump. So I ordered a secondary air pump 267 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: that comes in next week. Is that lifely my problem 268 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: or could it be something else controlling either what it's 269 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: Tom's fault? No? Um, So let's talk about how does 270 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: a computer know or test a component depending upon what 271 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: it's trying to do. How do you think that How 272 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: do you think the computer knows the secondary air pump 273 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: is working well? And that's just it. I don't get 274 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: any air code regarding the secondary air pump. The air 275 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: code that I always got regarded the sensor, and you know, 276 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: the computer could measure the amount of let's say, electric 277 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: current that the motive was drawing if they wanted to, 278 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: and if it wasn't drawing any current or drawing too 279 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: much current, then they can say, hey, there's something wrong 280 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: with your pump. But I don't get an air code 281 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: that says that. At least my code reader doesn't say 282 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: anything about that. Maybe a better one was so back 283 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: in the day when air pumps were simpler, we would 284 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: we would cycle the air pump on with a scan tool, 285 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: regardless manufacturer I mean an air pump. The concept doesn't 286 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: exclusively BMW, although you would think by the prices they 287 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: charged they invented it. And you would turn the air 288 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: pump on with a scan tool and you would look 289 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: at most cars and oxygen sensor to see where its 290 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: voltage reading went. If it went low, it was lean, 291 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: meaning that it was seeing extra oxygen being created by 292 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: that secondary air pump, and there would be a minimum 293 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: number that had had a hit. In order to keep 294 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: the system happy, telling the computer that hey, I saw 295 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: this voltage. The you know, I saw it go down 296 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: to one tenth of a vault with the air pump on. 297 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: The computer is happy, the air pumps got volume, the 298 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: passageways are clear, and everything's working BMW. Because they have 299 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: to do it a better way. Um, they created a sensor. 300 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: They've got a sensor in there, but there's still passageways 301 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: in the head they're involved in this, and they're still tubing, 302 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: and there's still you know, they're still looking for volume 303 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: of air. They don't make sure they don't measure electrical 304 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: draw out of the pump. They don't have that ability. 305 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: They look at the reaction of that secondary air sensor. 306 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: So the factory way and the best way to really 307 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: test this system is still turn the pump on with 308 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: a scan tool. But you've got to have something factory 309 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: level with bidirectional control, meaning you push the button, the 310 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: pump turns on, and then you want to look at 311 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: the secondary mass airflow sensor. There's a red white wire. 312 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: I believe it's pinned two. Alright, keion engine off? All right, UM, 313 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: you want to look to see where that voltage goes. UM. 314 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: You know you also want to look to see I'm sorry, UM, 315 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: pin two is a red white canons. You know, I 316 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: should have five volts. Pin one is brown, that will 317 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: be ground. Just turn remember my notes, and then you're 318 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna look at the air pump with a scan sol. 319 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna turn the scan tool on right and Pin 320 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: three I forget the color of the wire should be 321 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: three vaults are greater now if if you don't have 322 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: any of that, that's step one's problem and the reason 323 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: we want to do this with a scan tool instead 324 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: of just trying to figure out how to turn the 325 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: pump on, because we also want to know that the 326 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: wires to the secondary air pump work. Does the computer 327 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: have the ability to control it? You know, there's there's 328 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: a hundred ways to hopscotch this. We're just trying to 329 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: get you to the root cause of the problem in 330 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: in in the end um. If the voltage didn't go 331 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: high enough, you would take the tubing off. There's a 332 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: one way valve on the cylinder head, and you want 333 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: to look and make sure you know when you turn 334 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: the pump on, does air blow went to free air? 335 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: If if the if the voltage on Pin three now 336 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: goes up where it didn't before, that means there's a 337 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: restriction in the cylinder head. That really could be the issue. 338 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: That could be what you've got as far as a 339 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: fault is concerned. Um, so your secondary air pump, the 340 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: first thing you got at the side, is it working? 341 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: And then the second thing is you've got to start 342 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: to look at those passageways because I think it's gonna 343 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: be easier for you to do at the look at uh. Um, 344 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, going out to get another scan tool, try 345 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: those things. Kurt, call me back. I'm glad to send 346 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: you more information and I appreciate you being there. I'm 347 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: running any of the card doctor. We're back right after this. 348 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: You know, you always make me want to go. I 349 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: love that song. That's I just I'm a disco guy, Tom. 350 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: What can I tell you? Um? And the sad thing 351 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: is we have a video linked now and I can 352 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: watch you dancing around the things that can't be unseen. Well, 353 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: at least they kept my clothes on this week. UM, 354 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: real quick, before we go, before we go to Ernie 355 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: and Lake, George, I just want to ask you this question. 356 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Serious Ben from Australia wrote me a note on Facebook 357 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: and he's tried calling into show. We have listeners in Australia, 358 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Tom Um, and he's tried. He's tried calling in to 359 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: the show on the five zero zero number and it 360 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: won't let him. Is there something specially he has to do? 361 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: I thought we talked about it up here on air UM. 362 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: He he might have to dial the the international US code, 363 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: which is a one. Okay, all right, we'll try that 364 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: because it should work from anywhere, right because we've had 365 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: calls from Australia, We've had calls from England. Um, We've 366 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: had calls, We've had halls in the Middle East, we've 367 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: had from Candle, We've had calls from everywhere. So I 368 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: know it's worked. So maybe I'll well, he's gonna hear this, 369 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: that's why I did this on air UM, and maybe 370 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: he'll maybe that'll help him on do it too, so 371 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: we'll start fixing more Australian cars. Um, there's a lot 372 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: of cold say yeah, you never know, but um, anyway, 373 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: let's hop along. You get that kangaroo hop Australia segue 374 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: like a lead balloon. Let's go over and talk to 375 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: Ernie and Lake George. Ernie, how can I help you? 376 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: Running in at your service? Yes, sir Rod, how are 377 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: you doing. Hey, my uncle Donn, who's a faithful listener, 378 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: UM asked me to call you. He says, you're my 379 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: last best hope. Uh. I got an older chief of 380 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: two thousand, um grand Cherokee with a straight six right. 381 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: It's only got about a hundred fifty miles I've made, Yeah, 382 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: is it could be. I've maintained it very well. But 383 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: the issue I got is it's been leaking oil since 384 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: seventy I brought it to him. It looked like there 385 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: was a rear main seal and I brought it to 386 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: my local garage and the guy looked at it and 387 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: he says, yes, we're main seal, and he dropped the pan. 388 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: He changed the seal, and a week later the thing 389 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: is still leaking. So I went back to him. He 390 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: actually gave me my money back. I told him to 391 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: keep the department the part money, and I gave it 392 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: to him a little bit, but he wanted to give 393 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: me my money back. I went to a dealer because 394 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: I figured, well, if the local guy can't fix it, 395 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: I'll go to the G dealer. And they got to 396 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: be able to fix it. So I brought it to 397 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: a G deal and in Connecticut, the first time the 398 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: guy did it, I brought it back a week later 399 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: it was still leak him. Uh he we replay a 400 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: second time. I brought it. He replaced it again, and 401 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: the mechanic told me to my face, he says, well, 402 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: it's a one year old truck. He says, it's it's 403 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: gonna leak. So that was that's kind of ridiculous in 404 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: my in my opinion, Um, the way it leaks is 405 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: if I drive on a highway for any kind of 406 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: extended period of time, I get to a light or 407 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I get home off of the highway and it must 408 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: splash around the bellhousing or whatever because it seems to 409 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: drip out at that point. It leaves a mess in 410 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: my driveway every time. It doesn't consume a lot of oil. 411 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I just drove up to Lake George from 412 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Connecticut and I'll do the round trip and I probably 413 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: won't go through, not even an eighth for core oil. 414 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't it doesn't burn oil. You know, 415 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: it does leak it and it's a nuisance. Now, the 416 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: mechanic telling me that it's gonna leak, he actually said 417 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: it might be from them an oil oil galley plug 418 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: on the back of the block could be Okay, if 419 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: that's that's something, can I get a scope and check 420 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: that out. I'm surprised he didn't have a scope and 421 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: he couldn't look at that. You might be able to 422 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: see something in any of this diagnosis or repair attempt. 423 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Has anybody added a die to the oil? Yeah? He did? Yeah, okay, 424 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: So if they've added a die to the oil, let's 425 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, we should be able to look up there 426 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: with a boar scope or you know, in extreme cases, hey, 427 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: if we have to pull the trans, let's pull the trans. Yeah, 428 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: you know, why not? And then we'll see the splatter marks. 429 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: Because nothing, nothing is more frustrating than oil leaks. You know, 430 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: in my mind, it's it's I'm getting my driveway done 431 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: this fall. So I've actually ordered a new canyon because 432 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty much done with this. I'm either gonna 433 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: have to park it in somebody's dirt driveway or on 434 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: the grass right right now. One thing I want to 435 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: comment on if you do pull the trans and you 436 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: find out it's not a galley plug and it's still 437 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: the rear main seal leaking, one thing I would ask 438 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: is when they do the rear main that should be 439 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: a two piece split rear main seal. Do you recall 440 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: did he did he show it to you at all? No, 441 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: he has show it to me, but I bring it 442 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: to the dealer. I gotta assumption that's what he use, right, 443 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: and that's why you can use Yeah, I'm sure, No, 444 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I just you know, I just want to 445 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: mention because I don't like leave any stone unturned. But 446 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'll do when I've I've done that 447 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: job dozens of times, I will offset the seal so 448 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: I won't I won't put it flushed to the bottom 449 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: of the crank or the top of the cap. I'll 450 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: offset it a little bit so that the parting line 451 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: and I'll put a little just the tiniest little dab 452 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: of our TV. I don't want it to get on 453 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: the crank journal, but just the tiniest little bit of 454 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: our TV to fill that gap. And then you know, 455 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: the simple, the the the easiest thing to do wrong. 456 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: And I just want to mention this too, is just 457 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: make sure they're putting the seal in right. You know, 458 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: there's a there's a forward side to the seal, and 459 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: I've seen guys put it in backwards and then the 460 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: problem just gets perpetuated. Hey, it can happen, you know what. 461 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: We all make mistakes. Well, yeah, that's you know, after 462 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: the second time, I think I would have pulled the 463 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: trans at that point and I checked it. I agree 464 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: with you, though, I don't like the well it's old, 465 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna leak oil concept, I you know, unless it's 466 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: burning oil as it's got excessive crank case pressure, you know, 467 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: and then there is no PCV valve in that engine. 468 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: There is an orifice tube. Are you familiar with that? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 469 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: I've already replaced it because it was you know, it's 470 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: deteriorated right right, you know, the second the second grumment 471 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: and the valve cover is just a metered orifice and 472 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: you know, just make sure that's working and doing what 473 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: it's supposed to do. And to tell you the truth, 474 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: if crank case pressure is so great, you're gonna be 475 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: able to take the oil fill cap and leave it 476 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: loose or take it off and run the engine and 477 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: that'll it'll just be pushing smoke and you know, crank 478 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: case fumes and it'll you'll you'll know right away. Let 479 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: me ask you this the crank case breeder tube that 480 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: goes from the valve cover to the air box, is 481 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: that filled? Is that filled with oil? I would say no, 482 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: because I replaced it. Probably not wanted to ago either. 483 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been through this whole truck, that every 484 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: single piece of truck, and I have replaced all those 485 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: all those rubber parts. Okay, But my point is what 486 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to is if that crank case 487 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: tube isn't you know, as you're running an excessive crank 488 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: case pressure, it's gonna go to the weakest, lowest point. 489 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: It will push oil down that breeder tube, and the 490 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: air box is actually gonna start to have oil in it, 491 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: and the air the air filter is going to be contaminated. 492 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: If you're not having that problem, then then I don't 493 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: see how this is. Well, it's you've got an old truck. 494 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: Something's not being repaired here, somebody missed something somewhere. Uh 495 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, So I say, let's get it to a 496 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: competent mechanic. Let's look at the die. If they have to, 497 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: let them pull the trans and then you'll know exactly 498 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: what the driving whatnot. Is that easier to pull the 499 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: training and pulling the engine to look at it. Um, 500 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: neither one of them are probably neither one of them 501 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: are probably a great idea that the nice thing is though, 502 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: if you set it up right and you've got the 503 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: right jack, you can pull the trans and the transfer 504 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: case as one piece. JEP did make an adapt or 505 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: where they bolted the transjack directly to the transmission. You 506 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: support the trans you pulled a cross member out of 507 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: the way. You bolted the transjack right to the cross member, 508 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, right to the transmount. You take the 509 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: transmount down, and you would bolt the transjack right to 510 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: where the transmount bolted, and you pull the whole thing 511 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: down as one unit. Makes life a whole lot easier. 512 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: You don't even have to disconnect the front drive shaft 513 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: from the transfer case. You'll pull it off the frontiff, 514 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: collapse it forward, you pull a rear drive shaft out, 515 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: disconnect your linkage, which, by the way, after twenty two 516 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: years is probably good and rusty anyway, and that probably 517 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: needs to all be rebuilt. Well, that's true too, it's been. 518 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: It's been. It's been a rustproof for the past couple 519 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: of years. So but um and then last but not least. 520 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: I just want to mention sometimes guys missed this. You know, 521 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: have they verified the oil filter adapter or rings are 522 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: not leaking? Oh yeah, I've been there myself. Okay, all right, Botles, 523 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. The truck is in beautiful condition. If 524 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't for the oil league. If I could never 525 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: fix the oil league, I think the thing would run forever. Yeah, 526 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: I probably would every piece. You know why they got 527 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: rid of the You know why they got rid of 528 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: the four leader, don't you? Uh well, I know they 529 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: had a problem with the head, but I replaced the head. Yeah, 530 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: they got rid of them because they did run forever. Um, 531 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: they were just good solid motors. Yeah, no new cars hills. Yeah, 532 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: so they had a bad casting for for a couple 533 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: of years there for I did get that replaced. So 534 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: all right, let me know, let me know if let 535 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: me know if you end up fixing it. Erne, I'm curious. 536 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm always curious. All right, you take good care. Thank 537 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: you very much for the call. Five zero zero, run 538 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: in any of the car doctor. We are back right 539 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: if for this, let's get over and talk to Jack 540 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. Jack Ranaldading and the car Doctor rate your service, sir, 541 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: how can I help? Hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, 542 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: I've got a sixty nine Jaguar E type and it starts, 543 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: it looks great, runs great for about twenty minutes, and 544 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: then it starts to misfire and then it just dies 545 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: and you can't restart it. You gotta let it sit 546 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: for about a half an hour till it cools down 547 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: and it'll start up again and run okay when it 548 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: when it doesn't start when it goes into that no 549 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: start condition. What what sort of testing have you done? 550 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: What is it missing? Do you know? Is it missing fuel? 551 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: Is it missing spark? Uh? It's usually held on the 552 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: highway somewhere. And I opened it up and you look 553 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: at the It's got clear fuel lines going to the 554 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: two Zena Stromberg carburetors and the fuel looks like there's 555 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: fuel in there, and uh, I spent. I hate the tuddy. 556 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: I had the carburetors tuned up. It only costs me 557 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars only. So so let me ask you this. 558 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, and I'm trying to remember what sixty nine 559 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: looked like, but I don't care a car as a car, 560 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: old or new. Um, you got access to the secondary 561 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: ignition cables. Can you post spark plug wire off if 562 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: you had to? You're right up on top, right, Yeah, 563 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: it's yeah, yeah, okay, now yeah, it's coming back. I 564 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: think number one is located next to the firewall on 565 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: this car. Um it's backwards. Um. So what if you 566 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: had a spark tester? Would you have the ability to 567 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: put a spark tester on a wire and crank it 568 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: over and see if you're missing spark or not. Yeah, 569 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: that'd be a good I that'd be something to try. Right, 570 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: do you have a do you have an o'reillyotor parts 571 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: near you go down there and tell them you're looking 572 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: for an ignition spark tester and what you're looking for. 573 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: It's pretty cheap and simple. Uh, It's basically gonna be 574 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: something that either looks like a spark plug with an 575 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: alligator clip attached to it. Is this the one you 576 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: plug onto the spark plug and you plug the ignition 577 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: wire on and you can look inside and see the spark. No, 578 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: because you can't do that, probably because the it's down 579 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: in the well. It's right up on top. Oh, if 580 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: you can do that, if you can get one of 581 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: those on there, then do that. I was gonna tell 582 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: you to just get something that gives you the ability to, 583 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, just test spark. So you know, either a 584 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: spark plug, either a spark tester where it's got an 585 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: alligator clip bond it you connect one to ground and 586 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: one to the wire. Or they make an adjustable one. 587 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: There's an adjustable one out there from various tool manufacturers. 588 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Tell them, ask them, can they get you the one. 589 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: It's it's probably three inches long by about three it's 590 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: of an inch wall. It it's black, it's plastic, and 591 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: it's got increments marked on it. You know, ten thousand vaults, 592 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: two vaults and so on, with a thumb wheel, a 593 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: thumb knob that you turned to open the gap and 594 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: you would hook one side to the spark plug wire 595 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: on one side to the ground. And then you've got 596 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: a rough idea of you know, how strong is the 597 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: ignition system? Bottom line? Let me let me tell you 598 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: one of the things rock ahead. I got so frustrated. Well, 599 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: the other thing is that can't find any mechanics around 600 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: here that can work on a sixty nine. And the 601 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: last time I took it in, the car wouldn't start, 602 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: and they kept it for a couple of days, and 603 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: I ended up towing it home. And what had happened 604 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: was they put in a new set of points and 605 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: they grounded the wire, and so I wasn't getting the coil. 606 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't collapsing, the field wasn't collapsing. So I gave up. 607 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: I gave up on that, and I replaced the whole 608 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: distributor with a uh pertronics I think it's called an 609 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: electronic distributor, and so it doesn't have points anymore. It's 610 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: got electronic ignition, but I hadn't checked. Just do a 611 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: head spark. I just assume that, you know, assume as 612 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: a dangerous word. Do this, do this, Jack, all right, 613 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Go get a spark tester. Let's just find out for 614 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: sure is it spark or is it not? Then by 615 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: yourself a vaultmeter, go to the ignition coil when it 616 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: doesn't start. Do you have twelve vaults at the coil? 617 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Or do you have eight volts if there's a ballast 618 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: resistor involved? All right, and then you know, check it 619 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: when it's good, and then what do you have when 620 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: it's dead? If you don't have power to the coil, 621 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna start to think about an ignition switcher 622 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: at a wiring problem leading back to the switch between 623 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: the coil and it some basics. Man, I don't care 624 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: if it's a Jaguar or Ferrari or a rocket ship. 625 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: It still needs basics to operate. Do those things called 626 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: me back and don't forget oriley oto parts ron and 627 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: naming the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 628 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Rover back name of the car doctor real quick before 629 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: we go. So, I'm noticing a new trend in um 630 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: in oil changes. I call it the pandemic oil change. Um. 631 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: It seems that a lot of you are going really longer. 632 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: And um, I mean some of the oil changes this 633 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: week at the shop were crazy. We had a twelve 634 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Chrysler two hundred that hadn't had the oil changed in 635 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: two years. And in that two year time period, and 636 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: she said to me, as a result of the pandemic, 637 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: the car had gone a total of sixty miles. So 638 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: it went long on time, It went long on mileage 639 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: and ended up on my doorstep with about sixty thousand 640 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: miles on it. And you know you can tell you 641 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: can you know I'm one of those mechanics that believes 642 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: you can tell by looking at oil that something's up. 643 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: And surely in this case, the oil that came out 644 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: of this, I mean it was it was dead tired, 645 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: but it also had a lot of the google the 646 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: yellow sludge had built up in it because it was 647 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: all short trips. She you know, went from home to 648 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: to the to the corner market and then to church 649 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: and wherever she was going. She just the engine never 650 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: really got up to temperature. So we did the oil change, 651 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: which and I explained to her, and I'm explaining to 652 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: you that I think it's important that you get back 653 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: on schedule because the pandemic, you know, did enough damage 654 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: we don't want to have any other issues. But also 655 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: consider as I did in her case, is we didn't 656 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: edit it. We did a ken of liquial molly hydraulic 657 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: lifter or edited um, because it has the ability to 658 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: clean out sludge and reactivate things and get rid of varnish. 659 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: And you know, it's a conditioner for the crank case 660 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: for the engine. So if you're going along, think about 661 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: some of those things. You can find more information at 662 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: liquid desh Molley dot com. Until the next time I'm 663 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: on any of the car doctor reminding you good mechanics 664 00:34:53,160 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you. She was stand