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<v Speaker 4>Rookies reporting this week Friday, Veterans next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time we are ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Training Camp twenty twenty three upon us and we welcome

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<v Speaker 4>in to Bears Weekly. I am Jeff Choniyak with the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl Star Guard, Tom There and Jim Miller from

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<v Speaker 4>Serious X NFL Radios moving the chains. Good evening, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you miss me last week? Tom Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I noticed that you started by saying it's good to

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<v Speaker 5>be back, and I met thought, did you mean that

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<v Speaker 5>selfishly that you're happy to be back from your extravagant

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<v Speaker 5>world win, multi multiple country vacation or are you talking

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<v Speaker 5>about the start of the NFL season.

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<v Speaker 4>Jim Miller, I was talking about the start of the

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<v Speaker 4>training camp, but I am also glad to be back

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<v Speaker 4>with my boys here, So I hope you guys are

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<v Speaker 4>happy to have me back.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. But you know, Tom

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<v Speaker 6>and I are much like Bill Belichick. No days off,

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<v Speaker 6>no days off.

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<v Speaker 7>We just play out through.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what we do here.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff. You know, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that you ever have taken a vacation, Jim,

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<v Speaker 4>And if I ever ever ever even insinuate the Tom

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<v Speaker 4>when he goes to Maui for three weeks, are you

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<v Speaker 4>ready for your vacation? He turns beat red, angry and says, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't go on. I go to surf man.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a vacation.

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<v Speaker 4>The beauty of Maui and the beaches and whatever else

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<v Speaker 4>comes along. But anyway, we'll wrap on all that another time.

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<v Speaker 4>We got NFL football. We're gonna be breaking down the

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<v Speaker 4>NFC North today, the old NFC Central, the Black and

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<v Speaker 4>Blue Division. We've got a couple of great guests. Are

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<v Speaker 4>good pal Pete Bercich from the Bankings Radio Network to

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<v Speaker 4>join us here coming up in moments. And then at

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<v Speaker 4>the bottom of the hour, our old pal Wayne Leravy,

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<v Speaker 4>the voice of the Green Bay Packers, so an NFC

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<v Speaker 4>North preview tonight. We'll try to do Detroit on Monday

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<v Speaker 4>of next week. That's another show here on Bears Weekly.

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<v Speaker 4>Glad to have you alongside with Jordan truad Up and

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Brilly are producers. Thank you as well to Charlie

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<v Speaker 4>Bevins and Tyler Rocky as well. While we're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the division, I got asked on a couple of radio

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<v Speaker 4>shows on our radio network, Jim here, just in the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of days, and everybody's wanting to know what

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<v Speaker 4>you know. Everybody's just going to sleepy by the Green

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<v Speaker 4>Bay Packers and thinking that the Detroit Lions are the

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<v Speaker 4>next best thing, but acknowledging at the same time that

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<v Speaker 4>the division is wide open.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they off base?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they're off base. I think when you

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<v Speaker 6>look at Aaron you know, think of Aaron Rodgers when

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<v Speaker 6>he got his first year as a starter. They were

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<v Speaker 6>a six and ten football team, you know, and people

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<v Speaker 6>forget about that. And there is a lot of young

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<v Speaker 6>players that are surrounding Jordan Love. We know that the

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<v Speaker 6>receivers like Dobbs and Watson, they're only going on their

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<v Speaker 6>second year. They draft obviously a tight end, they're young there. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 6>they weren't as they haven't been as good as what

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<v Speaker 6>everybody has suggested that where they were like twenty six

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<v Speaker 6>in the league get stop on the run. So they

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<v Speaker 6>have to play much better defensively in my opinion, because

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<v Speaker 6>for me, it's gonna take a little while for that

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<v Speaker 6>offense to catch up. And plus I think it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to put more pressure on the play caller, you know

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<v Speaker 6>when you look at coach Lafleur, because they won't have

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<v Speaker 6>the flexibility at the line of scrimmage like they had

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<v Speaker 6>with Aaron Rodgers. Right, remember when coach Lafleur got the

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<v Speaker 6>job and he was like, Wow, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna let Aaron Rodgers check at the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 6>Like what what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>So you know there's a lot of things that he's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna have to be really that he's putting on himself

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<v Speaker 6>pressure wise, to be a good play caller, because I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think Jordan Love will be going in and out

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<v Speaker 6>of plays like what Aaron Rodgers was.

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<v Speaker 8>Doing with ease.

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<v Speaker 6>So I do see that team, you know, taking a

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<v Speaker 6>step back. They're kind of going younger right now. I

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<v Speaker 6>think everybody knows that, not that that's not an exciting

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<v Speaker 6>thing for green Bay Packer fans. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of people that even called into moving the chains, that

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<v Speaker 6>are excited about it. They're ready to move on from

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<v Speaker 6>Aaron Rodgers, and some are still disgruntled about it. So

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<v Speaker 6>I do think, you know, they need to grow as

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<v Speaker 6>a team. And I think really the best guy who

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<v Speaker 6>said it was David Baktieri. He said, we just need

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<v Speaker 6>to admit what we're doing here, and they're rebuilding. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what Green Bay's doing.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, one thing about Aaron Rodgers in this division,

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<v Speaker 5>I think for the last ten years, whenever they called

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<v Speaker 5>to play into his headset, it was merely a suggestion

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<v Speaker 5>and if he liked it well enough and they ran,

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<v Speaker 5>and if he didn't, then he made a change either

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<v Speaker 5>in the huddle or at the line of scrimmage, and

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<v Speaker 5>he could deal with the vulnerabilities that he saw against

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<v Speaker 5>the defense he was going to face when he broke

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<v Speaker 5>the huddle. But I think when you look at the

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<v Speaker 5>overall division this year, I do think it's a wide

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<v Speaker 5>open division. However, I think Detroit has finally been able

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<v Speaker 5>to take it into our stadium and turn it in

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<v Speaker 5>to the loudest weapon.

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<v Speaker 7>In our division.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know that they have.

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<v Speaker 7>A good outdoor crowd in Green.

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<v Speaker 5>Bay and Minnesota. You know, does a nice job inside.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, having the you know, the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 5>go to Detroit and play there.

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<v Speaker 7>Late in the year when they were on a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit of a run.

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<v Speaker 5>It was an atmosphere that you better take control of

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<v Speaker 5>quickly in the game or else it's just gonna I

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<v Speaker 5>think it'll impact your offensive communication ability.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to touch on something. Justin Fields has been

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<v Speaker 4>out and about. He's had a camp with young kids

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<v Speaker 4>and invited all those folks and he had a good

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<v Speaker 4>time doing that. Those youngsters all showed up and enjoyed

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<v Speaker 4>it as well. He's been on a couple podcasts, I believe,

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<v Speaker 4>and one of them he was asked about his play

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, basically says, right now, his knowledge of

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<v Speaker 4>the offense, Tom is such that he feels he can

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<v Speaker 4>do anything he wants on the field right now, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is a great sign for when we actually start

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<v Speaker 4>going here because that kind of confidence coming from Justin

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<v Speaker 4>is significant.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>That Lukeketzi said at the podium when he was leaving

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<v Speaker 5>the OTAs and mandatory mini camp. They want to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to hit the ground running when training camp begins.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't want to have to go over and rehash

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<v Speaker 5>what they've already installed inside this offense over the next

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks. They need to hit the ground running where

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<v Speaker 5>they pick up where they left off, and they just

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<v Speaker 5>continue to refine everything. And as they refine everything and

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<v Speaker 5>becomes more familiar in terms of terminology to Justin, I

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<v Speaker 5>think he can play more freely in more to these

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<v Speaker 5>to his athleticism ability he has.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim.

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<v Speaker 4>He also has asked on a show here for CBS

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<v Speaker 4>Sports I believe to name the five top running quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 4>in NFL history, and he said he could include himself

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<v Speaker 4>if he's so desired, and he did, along with Steve Young,

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<v Speaker 4>Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick, and Cam Newton. It's got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of attention, but last year was dynamic, no question.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well he is. He's a tremendous athlete. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes I wish, you know, there's kind of no upside

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<v Speaker 6>to respond to questions like that, you know, because you're

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<v Speaker 6>kind of putting him in a pickle. Because for me, personally,

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<v Speaker 6>I do not want him to be a top five

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<v Speaker 6>running back, right because out of all those quarterbacks you

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<v Speaker 6>just mentioned, there's not a lot of Super Bowl wins.

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<v Speaker 6>Cam Newton, Yeah, he was a great running quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 6>he got beat up and he's out of the league

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<v Speaker 6>right now. I think it's how you run and how

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<v Speaker 6>smart you are as a runner where you can really

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<v Speaker 6>preserve your body. And if he comes along as the

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<v Speaker 6>passer that we think he can be, this team's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be much more balanced and they'll have a better

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<v Speaker 6>ability to go further in the pro season, is my

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<v Speaker 6>take on it. But again, it's just it's a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of talk, you know, and excitement before training camp and

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<v Speaker 6>things like that, and you know, if that's a goal

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<v Speaker 6>of his, I wish him good luck on his journey

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<v Speaker 6>to get that. But you know, I think we want

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<v Speaker 6>to see this team a more balanced team and throwing

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<v Speaker 6>the football. I want him to be a top five

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<v Speaker 6>passer because guys like you know, Jim Mahomes and those guys,

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<v Speaker 6>that's how they're winning Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, Jim. You know, part of running is what

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<v Speaker 7>are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you running beyond the line of scrimmage or you're

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<v Speaker 5>running to stay open, because when you look at guys

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<v Speaker 5>like John Elway, even Doug Fluti or fran Tarkington, they

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<v Speaker 5>stayed behind the line of scrimmage to get the ball

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<v Speaker 5>out of their hands and create some big plays.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's what those guys were able to do.

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<v Speaker 5>If we're talking about quarterbacks that have to break the

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<v Speaker 5>line of scrimmage and run down field, then you know

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<v Speaker 5>that's when the fear of injury comes in. Where I'd

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<v Speaker 5>rather see a quarterback extend the pocket, fatigue the defense,

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<v Speaker 5>and get a completion downfield.

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<v Speaker 4>He also says he's gonna be the first Bears quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>in history to throw for more than four thousand yards,

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<v Speaker 4>something that has not happened in Bear's history. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 4>all about that and more on the Bear's confidence from

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterback sounds good on the basically, the eve of

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<v Speaker 4>training camp is the Bears get ready for the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three season.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll be joined by Pete Bersich, the radio analyst Chicago Rodic,

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<v Speaker 4>Notre damer football player and coach with the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>He's next year on he ESP in Chicago with the

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<v Speaker 3>Bears Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>NETWORKSCUS Bears Weekly with a voice of the Bears for

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<v Speaker 4>we get to talk to that. Yes tonight, Pete Bursich

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<v Speaker 4>born and bred. You know, I didn't know he was

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<v Speaker 4>born in Joliet. I know he went to Providence Catholic,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was born in Joliet. Tom Thayer, the color

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<v Speaker 4>analysts of the Vikings Radio Network. Pete, how are you

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<v Speaker 4>feeling tonight, buddy?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for taking that good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I have to declare I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in New Lenox Township, so I didn't. I didn't grow

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<v Speaker 2>up in Jaytown like Fate.

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<v Speaker 3>You were born in Joliet.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born there. Yes, I was born there, so

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, it's the main thing. I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota for thirty year. If no one knows where the

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<v Speaker 2>help we want, so I just say Joliet and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they know. It's just you know, makes it easier,

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<v Speaker 2>makes it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>With camp coming up here next week, I know you're

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<v Speaker 4>getting ready. But the number one question I have for you,

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<v Speaker 4>just right out of the gate, because we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about this later Jim Miller and Tommy and I

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<v Speaker 4>about the whole running back situation. I know it's about

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<v Speaker 4>cap I know it's about money, But why did the

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<v Speaker 4>Vikings move on from Dalvin Cook?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's a That's a good question, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>is it? You know, obviously, is there is there more

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<v Speaker 2>to it than that? I think, yes, Dalvin did eat

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<v Speaker 2>up a lot of cap space, but there's no question

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<v Speaker 2>he was a he was a pretty big shot in

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<v Speaker 2>here at the offense. You know, does our offense about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the scheme value that position as much as

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<v Speaker 2>it did before. I mean, you looked at when when

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<v Speaker 2>Zimmer was there. You know, Cook was around forty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the offense. I think forty percent of the yards

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<v Speaker 2>went through him, and you know, so he was a huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge part of the offense. And uh, you know those

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<v Speaker 2>numbers are coming down. But we needed him in the

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo game, we needed them in a couple other situations.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a very good blocking running back now as a

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<v Speaker 2>route runner. I mean's he made a couple of really

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<v Speaker 2>nice catches in the end zone this year. So my

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't see a way in which management coaches

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want him back. I think it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of it really was just a matter of money.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a great leader, and he's kind of the heart

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<v Speaker 2>and soul of the offense, kind of like Zadarius Smith

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<v Speaker 2>I think was for the defense. He was a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that the one guy we had to had a lot to,

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<v Speaker 2>had some attitude, stayed out there even when he was injured,

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<v Speaker 2>kept playing. And so we've lost that guy on both

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive side and defensive side.

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<v Speaker 8>Of the of the field.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a we got a lot of question marks

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<v Speaker 2>coming into this year. So it's gonna be interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>see how camp plays out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Pete.

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<v Speaker 5>Before the start of the season, when you look at

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<v Speaker 5>the Bears and you think of Tremade Edmonds and TJ.

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<v Speaker 5>Edwards and you look at DJ Moore, you think of

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<v Speaker 5>immediately the linebacker position for the Bears got better. Include

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<v Speaker 5>Jack Sanborn and that and the rest of the fellas.

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<v Speaker 5>But now they have a little, you know, veteran leadership

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<v Speaker 5>and they got some young guys coming up right now

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<v Speaker 5>sense of conclusion of the season to today, where are

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<v Speaker 5>the Minnesota Vikings a better football team?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you would assume the offensive line is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be better because they're spending two years in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>same group. You hope at Ingram continues to improve. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was eighteen years old and started I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven games for LSU as an eighteen year old in

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC. He started every game last year for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 2>He had some ups and he had some downs. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that I think really really needs to improve.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting with Bradberry since the Vikings didn't pick up their

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<v Speaker 2>fifty year option, his fifth year option, but yet they

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<v Speaker 2>decided to re sign him anyway, So you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line group is really the one group that's sticking together.

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<v Speaker 2>I think wide receiver wise, you know, I think Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson has every chance to get into two thousand if

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<v Speaker 2>they can protect Cousins for a fraction of a second longer.

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<v Speaker 2>I went watched all the passing plays from last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean JJ should have he really should have

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<v Speaker 2>hit two thousand last year, but he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just short. So I think offensively, you know, the line

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<v Speaker 2>in the receiving corps. Tight end group should be good too, Hockinson.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you should always have a good group there.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of that, it's gonna be tough. The safety group

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<v Speaker 2>has the same guys coming back. Lewis seen our first

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<v Speaker 2>round draft picks from last year. Broke his leg. He

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<v Speaker 2>should be back. You know. Byron Murphy at corner was

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<v Speaker 2>a good sign. He's a very very very good man

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<v Speaker 2>to man guy. I think that's what you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more out of this floor as defense

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<v Speaker 2>is some challenging on the outside, a little more mando

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<v Speaker 2>man h and he's the guy to do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the rest of them, the rest of the groups,

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<v Speaker 2>we've we've got some big question marks, Tom, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the thing. We go into this, We

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<v Speaker 2>go into the season with with a lot of personnel

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<v Speaker 2>question marks, and we're gonna need a lot of young

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<v Speaker 2>players to finally step up and and you know, rookies

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<v Speaker 2>and young guys to play. We know, we know about

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander Madison, but can he replicate what Cook did? He

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<v Speaker 2>had a really good game against Arizona last year, but

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<v Speaker 2>can we get that out of him for fifteen sixteen weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's just there's a ton of question marks,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's what concerns me the most. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think this is going to be a losing season by

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<v Speaker 2>any means, but I think with the success they had

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<v Speaker 2>last year, now you're playing all the you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>teams that won the division. You know, we we we

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<v Speaker 2>need a lot of guys to really pay him out

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<v Speaker 2>for this team to try to replicate that thirteen and

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<v Speaker 2>four record.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Pete for me, Jim Miller, good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 6>As an outsider, I'm trying to see what the plan

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<v Speaker 6>is here, because you know, they could have extended Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe they could have cleared up cap space because you

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<v Speaker 6>got Hendricks who left. He was the leading tackler. You

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<v Speaker 6>just mentioned Sadarius Smith and Cook and we could go on.

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<v Speaker 6>There's other players that have gone here, and the windows

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<v Speaker 6>kind of right now. You know when you look at

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<v Speaker 6>the exodus of Aaron Rodgers and I'm saying, am I, so,

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<v Speaker 6>why is in Minnesota doubling down because they won the

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<v Speaker 6>division last year?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's that's a that's a very good point,

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<v Speaker 2>and my condolences for having to deal with those other

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<v Speaker 2>two most of the time. You know, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Fayer and Joni act having to sit in

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<v Speaker 2>between those two. And I don't know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you do it. Whatever the pain, they should double it.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very good point, you know. I think the focus

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<v Speaker 2>is really to keep Justin Jefferson around and what you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do is pay a receiver, you know, maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>record breaking salary or somewhere up there, and then not

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<v Speaker 2>have a quarterback to throw the ball to him. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, for Kirk Cousins, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>getting older, and we got to keep an arm of

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<v Speaker 2>eye in his arm strength big time, because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't scramble, he doesn't move around, and he has

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<v Speaker 2>that accuracy in arm strength. And if that starts the

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<v Speaker 2>wayne his I think his productivity and his game will

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<v Speaker 2>fall up pretty quickly. Now whether or not that'll be

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<v Speaker 2>the case, I don't know, But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>the Vikings are concerned about him, you know, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>next season testing the free agent market, I think what

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<v Speaker 2>they may have had to do to extend him would

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<v Speaker 2>be more than what they wanted or what they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to pay him, and they're not afraid of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of just letting him go ahead and do that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>well you ever get there, I don't know, but they

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<v Speaker 2>have those.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big combination there that they have to reshginn

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<v Speaker 2>and figure out, which is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>he saw the departure of a gal like Eric Hendricks.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think I don't think Eric was

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<v Speaker 2>a fit for the scheme that we were trying to run,

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<v Speaker 2>and really don't. Dallas ran the ball forty times against us,

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<v Speaker 2>and he came away with a game with three combined tackles. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know any linebacker when he faced forty runs

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<v Speaker 2>and come up with three tackles, there's something going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was nicked up. But if it's about

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<v Speaker 2>the year, so you know, losing Dalvin Tomlinson was a

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<v Speaker 2>big loss too. I think losing Zadarius Smith and Dalvin

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<v Speaker 2>Thomlinson with big losses the line, you know, and we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really draft or sign anyone to fill that other spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe if Brian Ausamol will step up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got this this undrafted free agent kid from Cincinnati's

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<v Speaker 2>name is Ivan Pace. Now, I just hope the kid

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<v Speaker 2>makes the team. But he'll knock your eyeballs cross he's

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<v Speaker 2>about five 't ten, about two forty. He's like London

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<v Speaker 2>Fletcher all over again. You know, I'm hope I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>got my fingers crossed this kid finally it makes this

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<v Speaker 2>team because I think he gets the potential of being

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know, like I said, an old school

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<v Speaker 2>type of linebacker. And so but again, those these are

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<v Speaker 2>the question marks I'm talking about, right, We're these are

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that we need to step up and figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out and not just be starters, but be productive starters.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's uh, you know, I'm I'm I'm. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>closer we get the camp, the more of a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wait and see attitude, I'm I'm getting. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think again, the Vikings will be successful. But you're right

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<v Speaker 2>without Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay Detroit, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>only the way they finished last year, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care what they did in the draft and all if

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<v Speaker 2>people don't like what they did in the draft, they're

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<v Speaker 2>still gonna be a damn with football team coming in

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<v Speaker 2>this fall. You guys are vastly improved, no question, about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, hopefully all three of us can

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<v Speaker 2>beat up on Green Bay twice and you know that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be my that'll be the end, and that's the that's

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be the best NFC North season I could think of.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that sounds good. Pit six losses on him right

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<v Speaker 4>out of the gate. One last question, we'll let you go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know you told me you're going to football practice today, right,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you doing now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm helping out. I'm helping out with my steps son.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an eleven U at the Hinsdale Falcons. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm helping him out. You know, I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, some people out to eat dinner, but

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<v Speaker 2>they just don't you know, they never returned phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. So yeah, that's been.

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<v Speaker 3>Our name on it. We're going Tom would love to Colm,

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<v Speaker 3>Jim will.

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<v Speaker 2>Fly him in eight were eight. I'm I'm like two

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<v Speaker 2>blocks away right well right now I'm about eight blocks away.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, just it's just, you know, it's this time

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<v Speaker 2>of year. I'm helping out with the Hinsdale Central team,

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, the high school team. We got a big

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<v Speaker 2>scrimmage tomorrow night. Uh, you know, it's I love this

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<v Speaker 2>time of year. Kids need football now more than ever,

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<v Speaker 2>and the game's changed. Yeah, but you know, I still

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<v Speaker 2>love passing it on and getting these guys excited to

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and run around.

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<v Speaker 4>I think all four of us would certainly agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>That is so important. Pete, I would love talking to I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to see theayer out there with the tight

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<v Speaker 2>polyester shorts with sock pulled up and the whistle around

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<v Speaker 2>the second, you know what I mean, Just the old school.

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<v Speaker 3>Old Yeah, maybe wearing flip flops with that look too though, on.

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<v Speaker 2>The back of his shorts, the whole thing. I'd pay

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<v Speaker 2>money to see that.

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<v Speaker 7>A ball guy with advisor on there's.

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<v Speaker 8>I love the look. It's the best ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh anyways, all right, Pete and Joy, we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you down the road. Here we'll see my persage outstanding.

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<v Speaker 3>Love talking to Pete.

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<v Speaker 4>He still lives in the Chicago area and commutes to

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<v Speaker 4>Minnesota for the season and.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing a great job there. When we come back, we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk more about the running back position from a league

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<v Speaker 4>wide perspective. It's gaining a lot of attraction obviously, the

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<v Speaker 4>discussion and the franchise tag players who are not signed

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<v Speaker 4>to long term deals at this point. We'll get in

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<v Speaker 4>all that with Jim Miller and Tom There. I'm Jeff Joningact.

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<v Speaker 4>the Voice of the Packers, will join us. Take a

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<v Speaker 4>look at the Green Bay Packers of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I touched on this. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it at the running back position. I know Tommy

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<v Speaker 4>and I are big running back guys, Jim Miller.

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<v Speaker 3>We are we always will be. Love the running game.

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<v Speaker 4>But the discussion and the outrage right now at that

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<v Speaker 4>position among the backs themselves, from Saquon Barkley to Josh

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<v Speaker 4>Jacobs and Tony Potterard and anyone else who's chying in

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<v Speaker 4>on it.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your take on it?

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<v Speaker 4>Because the teams still like running the football and there's

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<v Speaker 4>value in addition, when you think of Boston Eckler as

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<v Speaker 4>a pass receiver and the pass protection. You know, what's

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<v Speaker 4>your take on what's happening here and how do you

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<v Speaker 4>feel about it as a veteran quarterback.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, one, I think guys miscalculated the market, clearly. Saquon

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 6>Barkley miscalculated it. He's not the first one to do it.

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 6>Le'Veon Bell did it and paid dearly, and he recently

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<v Speaker 6>came out and apologized for that. But you know, he

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<v Speaker 6>basically cost himself Saquon Barkley probably about four million dollars,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, because the Giants had offered him a two year,

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<v Speaker 6>thirteen million dollar deal, so he would have got twenty

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<v Speaker 6>six million dollars guaranteed over the next two years. And

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<v Speaker 6>now if he plays this year out with the tag,

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<v Speaker 6>we know he's going to hold out, but he'll come

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<v Speaker 6>in and play and it's ten million dollars. But the

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<v Speaker 6>issue is that market is going to go down because

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<v Speaker 6>that tag next year may go down. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 6>at the guys who have taken paycuts, right Delvin Cook.

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 6>They asked him to take a paycut. Aaron Jones, he

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<v Speaker 6>took a nine million dollar pay cut. And they're not

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<v Speaker 6>the only one, you know, so I think they miscalculated

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<v Speaker 6>the market. The position is different nowadays, I think, and

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<v Speaker 6>teams want to do this back by committee, and very

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<v Speaker 6>few teams, unlike the Giants and unlike the Raiders, a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of teams do running back by committee. We know

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 6>Jacobs is a bellcout, Sakuon Barkley is a bellcow Derreck

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 6>Henry is a bellcou and Nick Chubbs a bellcout. But

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 6>those teams that those are few and far between right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody wants to go by committee, I think.

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<v Speaker 7>And why that.

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<v Speaker 6>Position has changed right now? Rather plus quarterbacks are taking

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<v Speaker 6>away carries two from the running back cuts.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, help me to cut you off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, that's that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, when you stack up the cash, would

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<v Speaker 4>you rather pay a wide receiver? There are wide receivers

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<v Speaker 4>that are the twos or threes on their teams that

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<v Speaker 4>are making a significant amount more money and projected to

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<v Speaker 4>than your number one running back to me?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, but you know analytics analytically, what is their contribution,

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<v Speaker 5>because if you're a running back and you're a first

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<v Speaker 5>down running back, then if you get into a second, long,

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<v Speaker 5>or third down, they got to take you out because

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<v Speaker 5>you can't block. You know, that's just part of the

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<v Speaker 5>that's part of the running back why you're not being

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<v Speaker 5>paid as a first, second, third down back. And Jim

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned the guys that in this league that are considered for,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, three down backs, and there's not very many

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<v Speaker 5>of them. So when you're talking about how many reps

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<v Speaker 5>are you going to contribute a game, how many control

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<v Speaker 5>how many reps are you going to contribute against the

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<v Speaker 5>team that is more likely to get the ball thrown

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<v Speaker 5>against them more then you're gonna run the ball. So

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of different that you have to take

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<v Speaker 5>into account when you're talking about the running back position,

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<v Speaker 5>and when you're talking about the receiver position, a special receiver,

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<v Speaker 5>a special special guy at Chase and Jefferson from Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna get paid a.

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<v Speaker 7>Lot of money.

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<v Speaker 5>That's just the way they advance the football and that's

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<v Speaker 5>the big plays they make. But if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 5>a running game that is averaging four yards of carry

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't have an offensive coordinator that wants to

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<v Speaker 5>run the ball with that much. Then analytically they're you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna determine that you shouldn't make as much as

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<v Speaker 5>some of the other big play players are making.

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<v Speaker 4>And you've blocked for the greatest, Well, you just blocked

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<v Speaker 4>for the greatest Walter Payton. Okay, I mean would you

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<v Speaker 4>be paying him?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because you don't have to take him out of

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<v Speaker 5>the game. He doesn't miss games. He's there for seventeen

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<v Speaker 5>sixteen games a year. There's not a play that you

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<v Speaker 5>you need to take out of the playbook against any opponent.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you want?

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 5>You have the opponents and they get prepared for Walter Payton.

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 7>There's guys that are nervous to tackle them.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you take you take into account with Walter contributes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim, will this cycle back at any point my backs

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<v Speaker 3>will feel.

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<v Speaker 7>A little love. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's just a market correction right now. I mean, realistically,

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<v Speaker 6>would Christian McCaffrey have got his deal now in today's

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<v Speaker 6>current market? I would say no. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 6>forty nine ers and he's he's a very special player,

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<v Speaker 6>don't get me wrong. I just think it's a market correction.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you look at the backs, say good luck

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<v Speaker 6>to David Montgomery. He gets basically seven million bucks a year.

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 6>You look at Miles Sanders, his deals for twenty four million,

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<v Speaker 6>so he's grayed around seven million dollars a year. So

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<v Speaker 6>ten to fifteen million dollar backs is just taking a

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<v Speaker 6>step back. It'll cycle back, in my opinion, and it'll

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<v Speaker 6>it'll happen, but it just you know, that's just where

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<v Speaker 6>it's at right now. And look at all these backs

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<v Speaker 6>coming out. I mean, look what Bryce Hall was doing

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<v Speaker 6>last year for the Jets. Look what Damian Pierce did

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<v Speaker 6>last year for Houston. You know, you got this inventory

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<v Speaker 6>of backs.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Isaiah Bchecko, you know in the Super Bowl. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's part of this discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, we're gonna cycle through here now and bring in

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<v Speaker 4>Wayne Levy, our good friend, the voice of the Green

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<v Speaker 4>Bay Packers. Welcome into ESPN Chicago and the Bears Radio Network. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we can hand you the baton and talk about backs

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<v Speaker 4>because yours, Aaron Jones, took a mighty big pay cut

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<v Speaker 4>to stay there. And that's that's a big point of

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<v Speaker 4>my discussion about the division.

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<v Speaker 3>Wayne, And it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Good to talk to you again that the Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 4>despite the change of quarterbacks to us two good, very

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<v Speaker 4>good running backs that can carry the baton and help

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<v Speaker 4>things out there, along with a bunch of really good

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<v Speaker 4>defensive players. What is your take on this whole running

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<v Speaker 4>back conversation throughout the league right now?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's very interesting, Jeff. And you know, some of

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<v Speaker 8>these guys are like twenty seven, twenty eight, you know,

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 8>I think Dalvin Cook is around twenty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 8>and the Vikings don't want them, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 8>very interesting to see how that all plays out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>it's the wear and tear the running back position. It's

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<v Speaker 8>the fact that if you rep that running game, if

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<v Speaker 8>you invest in it, and you're going to get positive

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 8>yardage anyway, there's that factor to it. Maybe it has

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 8>something to do with remember the old zone blocking scheme

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 8>they ran under Shanahan in Denver and how any they

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<v Speaker 8>pick up a guy off the street and he'd rush

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<v Speaker 8>for a thousand yards. So I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 8>what it's all about, but I do know this. There

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<v Speaker 8>is value to the running game, There's no question about that.

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 8>But it does seem to me like it's really hard

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<v Speaker 8>for running back to get a second contract. Darn near

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 8>impossible in this league for a running back to get

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<v Speaker 8>a third contract.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Wayne, I kind of wanted to ask you a

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 5>question staying with the Green Bay Packers because I'm really

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 5>interested in them, because there's lots that's been said about

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 5>them throughout all last.

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<v Speaker 7>Season and even this season.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's the same question I just asked Pete Persus,

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<v Speaker 5>because when you look at the Bears and you look

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<v Speaker 5>at a couple positions that they've improved on paper during

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<v Speaker 5>the offseason, where are the Green Bay Packers better right

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<v Speaker 5>now than they concluded the season last year?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Boy, good question, Tom. They're better because they're healthier on

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 8>the offensive line. I think they started to figure it

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 8>out on defense in terms of not only how they

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 8>played the defense, but you know what they would do

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 8>in terms of pressure in terms of coverage especially. They

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 8>feel like they made some strides there down the stretch

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 8>defensively last year, and certainly the numbers would say that.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, are they better at quarterback?

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 8>Are they better at wide receiver. They're a little bit

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 8>more experienced at wide receiver. I think they have potential

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 8>to be better at wide receiver. But it's really hard

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 8>for me to sit here and tell you that, Okay,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 8>this team is better in this area, this area, this area,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 8>even without Aaron Rodgers, because as you know, a quarterback

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 8>like that, he's an a racer. He gets you out

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 8>of a band play into a good play. He can

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 8>make a bust to play into a big play. So

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<v Speaker 8>those are the things that we're hopefully going to see

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<v Speaker 8>from Ordan Love, but probably not right away in all honesty,

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 8>because young quarterbacks take time.

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<v Speaker 6>Wayne Good to talk to you. Jim Miller here, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's where I'm going. The skill position players around him

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 6>are very young. You draft Luke Musgrave, Tucker Craft's another

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 6>tight end they drafted. You mentioned Watson and Dobbs are

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 6>going in on their second year, but those other guys

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 6>are just kids and where.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, Jim, you're so right. I mean, their

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 8>most experienced receivers are in their second year, right, I

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 8>mean Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Samari two Ray. Now they've

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 8>got a couple of experienced tight ends Josiety Goora, but

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 8>he's more of an h BAC type. Tyler Davis had

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 8>an opportunity last year caught four balls. You know, that's

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 8>not the kind of production they were looking for. You know,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 8>when I look at some of these guys, the thing

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 8>about the skill position is this, You're exactly right, inexperience.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 8>Jordan loves throwing eighty three passes in NFL games as

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 8>a quarterback. Okay, that's the most important position. You're right

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 8>about wide receivers little experience. There even less experience a

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 8>tight end. When you figure that, Musgrave and Craft are

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 8>probably going to be one and two at tight end

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 8>for the Packers. However, the one thing I would caution

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 8>you on we're saying inexperience. We're not saying talent. They

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 8>have talent. These guys are talented. They can be really

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 8>good players. They really like Jayden Reed think he can

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 8>make a big difference in the slot. There's a lot

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 8>going for these young guys, but they are young and inexperienced.

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<v Speaker 8>And in Jim and Tom and Jeff, you guys know,

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 8>youth doesn't win in the NFL anymore. It's a man's game,

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 8>which means it's an experienced kind of game. So that's

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 8>what the Packers are up against with this team. Here.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me follow up with this, Wayne, what have you

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 6>seen from the maturity factor of Jordan Love to bring

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 6>those guys along, because there's going to be moments where

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 6>he's got to tell these guys what to do. Let's

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 6>be honest, and he's got to be able to step

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 6>in there and say, hey, we need this done this

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 6>way and get these young players. Because I remember even

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 6>when Anthony Thomas was our running was our running back,

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<v Speaker 6>he was rookie of the Year, I had to tell

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 6>him sometimes, hey, man, if the will Becker comes block him,

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 6>if he doesn't get out, you know what I mean.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 6>Where That's why I want to know about the maturity

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 6>level of Jordan Love to really make that happen if

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<v Speaker 6>that needs to happen in games.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Jim, you know the thing about Jordan Love. We've

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 8>seen all we need to see of Jordan Love. Okay,

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 8>it would do us no good to see him spend

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 8>another year behind Aaron Rodgers, another year where he plays

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 8>the majority of the preseason, another year where he runs

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 8>the first team offense for the majority of the offseason. Program.

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 8>That's he's done all of that, and he's improved each year.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 8>From a maturity standpoint, He's probably a little bit different

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<v Speaker 8>leader than Aaron Rodgers. Maybe not quite as Demonstraus. He

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 8>seems to me to be. His body language is a

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 8>little more toned down than that of an Aaron Rodgers

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 8>or even a Brett Fire. But I do think he

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 8>has he has the support of that locker room and

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 8>the people around him. And you're exactly right. He's leading

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 8>very young guys. I mean he's going into his fourth year,

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 8>guys like Christian Watson is number one receiver going to

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<v Speaker 8>his secutary or same thing with Dobbs musgraven Craft or rookies.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 8>Now you've got some experience in Aaron Jones and aj Dillon.

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 8>The offensive line is solid and very experienced. But no,

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<v Speaker 8>I think Jordan loves to me from what we've seen

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 8>in practice, from what we've seen briefly in his appearances

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 8>and games. And I go back to not last year

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 8>of Philadelphia, but the year before Kansas City, where he

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 8>had a terrible situation that he stepped into. Jordan had

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 8>to play because Aaron had COVID that week in Kansas

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 8>City against the Chiefs, they brought the house against them

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 8>all all game, and he hung in there. Well, he

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 8>really did. Didn't win the game, but had the Packers

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 8>in the game and threw a touchdown pass late that

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 8>made it a closer game. But I think the guy

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 8>has those leadership in tangibles. Now, the thing we're waiting

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 8>to see is what is he going to do with

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 8>the snap of the football, reading the defense, understanding what

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 8>the defense is trying to do, and where he has

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 8>to go with the ball. And that's something Jim that

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 8>only to do it at the level of Aaron Rodgers

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 8>or some of these other guys, Mahomes, you know those guys.

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 8>That's a God given gift, and we don't know if

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 8>Jordan Love has that because we haven't seen him over

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 8>the course of a season.

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Waen Larvy our guest here on Bears Weekly with Tom Bayer, Jimiler,

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Joniak. Final question before we let you go. We

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 4>appreciate taking the time. I keep talking about the defense too,

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 4>obviously it's all been well written and well documented. How

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 4>many first round picks since twenty twelve have been dedicated

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 4>to defense and that is eleven eleven players. So you

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 4>got a bunch of first round pedigree guys on there,

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and a new one in Lucas van Ness in that

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 4>rotation with Rashaun Gary and Prestott Smith, can that defense

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 4>and your running game kind of spread, spread things out

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 4>and kind of carry the day for a while until

0:33:57.840 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 4>we find out what your new.

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Quarter is all about.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Jeff, as you guys know, they have invested heavily

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 8>in this defense. They really have with free agent dollars

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 8>over the years. With first round raft choices. They have

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 8>eight of them on this defense that'll be playing this year.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 8>They've done all they could to try to build this defense.

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 8>It now has to happen. I mentioned earlier that I

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.280
<v Speaker 8>thought they started to find their stride down the stretch

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 8>last year. You know, they were gave up twenty points

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 8>or fewer in each of the final five games of

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 8>the season, you know, and that's a big factor for

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 8>the Packers. Now the rush defense has to be better,

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.760
<v Speaker 8>and the key there is going to be TJ. Slayton,

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 8>going into his third year out of Florida. This is

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 8>a big kid who's got all the talent in the world.

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 8>But like a lot of these big interior linemen, they

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 8>turn it on and turn it off. They need TJ.

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 8>Slayton to turn it on and leave it on, you

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 8>know what I mean that kind of thing. This defense

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 8>is going to be counted on. There's no question, so

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 8>is the running game. But here's something about the defense

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 8>that was interesting to me, and it gets back to

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 8>the consistency that Joe Berry, the defensive coordinators talked about.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 8>This defense gave up an average of six yards per

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 8>play on first down plays by their opponents. How and

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 8>that was twenty that was thirtieth in the league. However,

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.720
<v Speaker 8>on third down conversions thirty seven point six percent, eighth

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 8>in the league on third down conversion. So it shows

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 8>you that number one, they're inconsistent, but number two they

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 8>have the ability to stop people.

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, it won't be long now to the opening kickoff

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 4>Week one Bears Packers. You can't you can't get better

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 4>than that to start a season. Weno, how about it.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 8>Should be Oh no, looking forward to seeing you guys

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 8>as always, Jeff and all the best. Jim Miller, good

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 8>to talk to you. Enjoy your work on sirious and

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 8>Tom Thayer always the best.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Thanks you all right, Thanks appreciated. Wayne. We will talk

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:45.439
<v Speaker 3>to you down the road.

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 4>We'll take a break, we'll return and pick up more

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 4>conversation about what's the head for the Bears. A training

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 4>camp with Jim and Tom I'm Jeff Joniyak here on

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 4>ESPN and the Bears Radio Network.

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Excuse Bears Weekly with a voice of the Bears for

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty three years Jeff on the Bears Radio Network.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 4>The second of Bears Weekly is brought to you by CDW.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 4>If you got to get it, Jeff, Tom and Jim

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 4>Miller with you.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Jim from Serious x MNFL Radio is moving chain. So

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 3>my takeaway on the interviews.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 4>Of Peat, Burstitch and Wayne there Ivy fell as his

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 4>and there's a lot of great players on both teams still,

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 4>but there's still a lot of uncertainty Jim and Tom.

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 4>And that's going to be true for the whole division

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 4>and in large part the whole NFL, with the exception

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 4>of a few teams that are built to try to

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 4>win the bundle right away.

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 3>But I guess that's how we start every season Jimbo.

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean yeah, because you're always bringing along young

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 6>players and you want them to take big jumps. The

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 6>Bears did that last year. I do think the Bears

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 6>have a shot in this division. I do think they

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.439
<v Speaker 6>need to add a little bit more pass rush. They'll

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 6>see where it is at the valuation at the beginning

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 6>of camp. But all those young players that played those

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 6>rookie season, that's money in the b and there's more

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.959
<v Speaker 6>young players that are gonna play for the Chicago Beers.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 6>There should be much more offensive accountability by this group.

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 6>Do think the defense can take a jump with the

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 6>players that they played, that they signed here in free agency,

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 6>and we'll see where it goes. But they've got a

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 6>good shot as any.

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion.

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 5>You know, Jim and Jeff one, you look at this

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 5>division and we talk about all the marquee players within

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.240
<v Speaker 5>this division. I think the coaches have as much pressure

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 5>on themselves as the players do. Because when you talk

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 5>about the transition of quarterback in Green Bay, you talk

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 5>about what's expected out of the quarterback position here in Chicago,

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 5>the uncertainty of the future of the quarterback position in Minnesota,

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 5>and the uncertainty of the quarterback position in Detroit in

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 5>terms of health and the ability to make it through

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 5>seventeen games. All that, I think the coaches on both teams,

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 5>no matter what position they're coaching, they have pressure on

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 5>them too to make sure that they allow their team,

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 5>their position to grow. The Bears linebacker position is you know,

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 5>you have two experienced veterans that come from two different

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 5>football teams. Now they come into and they play a

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 5>similar style defense here at Chicago, but they got to

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 5>get acclimated to everything the defensive backs behind them in

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 5>the safety position and how they move around, plus on

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 5>how active the defensive line in front of him.

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 3>So I think this is.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 5>Gonna be as an interesting coaching year as it is

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.959
<v Speaker 5>some of the marquee players that we've been talking about.

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're gonna learn a few things, that's for sure.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 4>I you know, am i Off the best player in

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 4>the division regardless of position?

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Justin Jefferson Jim.

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 6>Uh Yeah, I'd say that definitely. I definitely say that

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 6>he is. He is extremely talented. I mean, I mean,

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 6>if he keeps on going on the pace that he's going,

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 6>I mean he's getting in you know, he'll go into

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 6>Randy Moss stratosphere. I mean, let's be honest. He will

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 6>be the highest paid receiver when it's all said and done, when.

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 7>They do his cont track.

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 5>So you have a receiver who can touch it so

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.919
<v Speaker 5>many times a game. To me, I think the most

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.479
<v Speaker 5>explosive player in the division is Justin because he gets

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 5>the ball handed to him. Every game. Now, the decision

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 5>process he goes through after he calls a play in

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 5>the huddle and if he's not confident with the pass

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 5>or an open receiver, and then he turns into a

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 5>running back. He's the best running back in the league,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 5>in the division. And so if he does become more

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 5>comfortable in the passing in the NFL and with his

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 5>teammates and the development of DJ Moore, Cole and Tunyan

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 5>at the court at the tight end position, I think

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.760
<v Speaker 5>as much as Justin can have a two thousand yard season,

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 5>Justin Jefferson, I think Justin Fields is talking about a

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 5>four thousand yard passing season when he could still rush

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 5>for a thousand yards.

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, that's a heck of a point.

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Interesting how Wayne who was the voice of the Bears

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 4>during the eighty five championship team that was the youngest

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL that he said, this is a big

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 4>man's game and an experienced man's game.

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 3>And to Jim's point, this is a young Bears team.

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 4>That could get younger depending on who makes the final

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 4>fifty three. But just quick, Matt, there are sixteen making

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 4>eighteen guys that are twenty six or younger on this

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 4>team right now that are key players if you put

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 4>them on the depth chart and say who's starting, who's

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 4>going to make impact? And then Walker the new addition

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 4>on the defensive line in Eddie Jackson at twenty nine.

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 4>So it's a big number of players under thirty years

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 4>of age. And I love it. I personally love it.

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 5>You know, I see I kind of disagree with Wayne

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 5>a little bit because I think it's a young man's game.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's the young.

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 5>Guys that you got to get these guys playing within

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 5>their first contract. So you when you were at the

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 5>crossroads of that financial decision, you know exactly what you're

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 5>going to invest in or you're not going to invest in.

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 5>And Matt Eberflu said it last year that he's not

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 5>opposed to playing young men. And when you look at

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 5>the Jalen Carters or the Darnell Rights or the other

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 5>young men that have come into the league this year, uh,

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, quarterbacks at the top of the draft. You know,

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 5>it's it's gonna be interesting to see, you know, what

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 5>what the young guys do in the in the NFL.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 4>Jim where you stand on that topic, because you you

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 4>you've eloquently pointed out some of the things you dealt

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 4>with in one with that team with a rookie running

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 4>back and Anthony Thomas and a rookie receiver David Terrell.

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and that's where I think it. You know, just

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 6>talking to Wayne, that's gonna be the challenge for Jordan Love,

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, ken he guide those guys and can he

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 6>bring them along? You know, how much knowledge base does

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 6>he have? And are we already mentioned And even Wayne

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 6>kind of you know, doubled down on what I said

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 6>that it's gonna put a lot more pressure on the

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 6>head coach because typically when you have young skill position players,

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 6>you want a veteran quarterback. And if you've got a

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 6>young quarterback, you want skilled players that have experience.

0:41:58.560 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 7>That's that's how.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 6>It's always kind of in the NFL to what bring

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 6>the young quarterback along? So so that'll be an interesting experience.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean, look at Patrick Mahomes now they move on

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 6>from Tyreek Hill. He's bringing all those guys along. He's

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 6>a veteran now, you know, and he's a leader with

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 6>all this experience. And Andy Reid knows, hey, man, my

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 6>quarterbacks got this. You know, look at the Aaron Rodgers,

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 6>he probably went through three sets of receivers there. Tom Brady,

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 6>he went through three sets of receivers in New England,

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.280
<v Speaker 6>and so you count on your veteran to bring them along.

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.959
<v Speaker 6>So I think that's an interesting experiment of how they're

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 6>doing it there in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're gonna take our last break and have

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 4>one more whip around the league. The latest news of

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<v Speaker 4>the day as we checked down towards training camp in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three. This is Bears Weekly on ESPN and

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<v Speaker 4>the Bears Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bears Weekly with a voice of the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty three years, Jeff jon on the Bears Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Jim Miller wrapping things up on tonight show. Will

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<v Speaker 4>be back with you next Monday, the night before training

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<v Speaker 4>camp opens, We'll hear from all the important players on

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<v Speaker 4>this team heading into the twenty twenty three season training

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<v Speaker 4>camp to get started.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll hear from the.

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<v Speaker 4>Top of the organization of Ryan Poles and head coach

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<v Speaker 4>Matty Reflues, as well.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple things fellas. Let's start with Jim.

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<v Speaker 4>So there are now twenty seven teams scheduling joint practices

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<v Speaker 4>with other teams.

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<v Speaker 3>This camp bears included.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll be going in week two to Indianapolis before they

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<v Speaker 4>play the Colts. I always think this is a tremendous,

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<v Speaker 4>tremendous bonus for a team that does this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>certain you agree with me and tell us why.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's because you sometimes can't script. You know, certain

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<v Speaker 6>things don't unfold in the preseason game, say your goal

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<v Speaker 6>line offense or short yardage maybe that doesn't or maybe

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<v Speaker 6>even a two minute drill depending on how the spring

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<v Speaker 6>or how the preseason games unfold. But in a controlled scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 6>you can script all those things where you script the

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<v Speaker 6>goal line period, you script a short yardage period, and

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<v Speaker 6>you work on the things against a different opponent that

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<v Speaker 6>you may necessarily not necessarily get an opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 6>in a preseason game. It's controlled. They will have some

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<v Speaker 6>live periods, there's no doubt about that, in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>the blitz periods and things like that, and it's just

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<v Speaker 6>better work because it scripts situations that may not unfold

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<v Speaker 6>in preseason games.

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<v Speaker 7>For me, you know, I just like the players.

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<v Speaker 5>They get to see other players, but you better get

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<v Speaker 5>the two coaches in agreement upon what the tempo of

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<v Speaker 5>the practice is because I've been a part of too

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<v Speaker 5>many joint practices that our tempo is a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more aggressive than our opponents, and alls it did is

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<v Speaker 5>end up being fights. I know they don't have that

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<v Speaker 5>anymore in the NFL, but you have to understand tempo

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<v Speaker 5>if you're going to get something out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we got about two minutes here jim DeAndre

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<v Speaker 4>Hopkins to Tennessee with offensive coordinator Tim Kelly with him

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<v Speaker 4>in Houston, he had a humongo year one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen fifteen to twenty seven and eleven touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>That good signing for him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think so that's a big boost for They

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<v Speaker 6>needed somebody to go opposite and take some pressure off

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<v Speaker 6>a Trey Lion Burks there. That they did offer the

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<v Speaker 6>most money. You know, it's basically a two year, twenty

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<v Speaker 6>six million dollar deal, but they'll have the out after

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<v Speaker 6>this year, I would think, and for Tennessee, it really

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<v Speaker 6>for them, it's a sign that they're not giving up

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<v Speaker 6>on that division. You know a lot of people just

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<v Speaker 6>think Jacksonville's is going to walk away with it. Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 6>are coming along and we'll see what happens down in Houston.

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<v Speaker 6>But it tells you Tennessee they're all in. They feel

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<v Speaker 6>they can win that division. I think with that signing.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Cole comet you're not on Twitter, but he was

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<v Speaker 4>trending a little bit this weekend today because Jacksonville signed

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<v Speaker 4>Evan Ingram to a three year, forty one million dollar

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<v Speaker 4>contract and he got a pretty good Madden rating apparently.

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<v Speaker 4>So getting ready for the year, are you hoping for

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<v Speaker 4>some long term extensions not only with Cole here before

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<v Speaker 4>the season gets going, Maybe you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, play put up the numbers and you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>re ward. This is not something that you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>a big cash heyday if you don't improve and get

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<v Speaker 5>more value out of your ability in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 4>And final minute, Jim, the sale is complete of the

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<v Speaker 4>Washington Commanders, that Josh Harris's group that also includes Magic Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a breath of fresh air for the NFL.

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<v Speaker 6>I would assume, yeah, you just see, you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>hope that Josh Harris, doesn't go in there and just

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<v Speaker 6>try to shake up everything right away. Just take your time,

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<v Speaker 6>learn how to own. I know he owns other sports franchises,

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<v Speaker 6>so I'm sure he's got a good idea, but just

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<v Speaker 6>to evaluate and make the changes that are necessary. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>this could be a total brand change when it's all

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<v Speaker 6>said and done, and so.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's a breath of fresh air.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think if he reaches out to the fans,

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<v Speaker 6>he'll provide hope and hopefully a fan base that'll come

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<v Speaker 6>back to the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna do it for us.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk to you Monday, Jim, Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you to Charlie Bevins. Coming up next, Tyler Aki.

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