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Speaker 2: rumor that was one million percent unfounded this week. But
Speaker 2: I want to have her laugh on camera for me
Speaker 2: at the idea that they may had been given a
Speaker 2: new name for a brief, short period of time. And
Speaker 2: we're about to unpack the Jade and Daniels story as well.
Speaker 2: It's a day two Jade and Daniels story with our guests.
Speaker 2: And he's right there right now, so let's bring him in.
Speaker 2: Why not John Blow here, sit down, LSU football reporter
Speaker 2: for The Advocate in Times. Pick a Youwn John. My
Speaker 2: name is Anthony Joseph Paul Reality and it's great to
Speaker 2: meet you.
Speaker 3: It's great to meet here too, Tony John.
Speaker 2: Please talk to me like I am a ten year
Speaker 2: old or a golden retriever. Okay, like I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: Take me back to how this started, this kerfuffle over
Speaker 2: the number five and this relationship Jadeen Daniels and LSU
Speaker 2: going sour.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So DJ Pickett, who's a sophomore cornerback, has Warren
Speaker 3: number five his entire life, going back to being four
Speaker 3: years old, and supposedly Brian Kelly promised him while he
Speaker 3: was being recruited that he could have number five. Obviously,
Speaker 3: number five very important LSU because Jadeen Daniels wore that
Speaker 3: number in twenty twenty three when he won the Heisman.
Speaker 3: Daniels apparently found out his team found out the DJ
Speaker 3: Pickett wanted this number. I think Wayne Kippet had made
Speaker 3: contact with all the representatives to let them know, and
Speaker 3: Jayden was not happy about that. And obviously there now
Speaker 3: has been the cease and desist letter that Jayden's attorney
Speaker 3: sent to LSU saying no longer use my name, image
Speaker 3: likeness please, and so dj Piggott, I mean he's still
Speaker 3: wearing the number. Lane's not saying a whole lot other
Speaker 3: than again, it was a promise made by the previous
Speaker 3: staff and so we're gonna let the kid wear the number.
Speaker 2: So Kiffin did reach out to Daniels beforehand.
Speaker 3: That's what that's the impression I'm under, yes, is there
Speaker 3: was contact, and so Jayden was aware this was happening,
Speaker 3: has been bruined for a little bit, and then obviously
Speaker 3: it led to the letter from his lawyer.
Speaker 2: How does it go from bother to cease and desist
Speaker 2: letter and the sprinkling of lawsuit in here.
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's an interesting question. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: all of us are watching this as observers and saying
Speaker 3: this seems a little drastic. Maybe this isn't you know,
Speaker 3: a great look for a former Heisman winner to kind
Speaker 3: of have be in a dispute with their with their school,
Speaker 3: and and that's at the school couldn't resolve this without
Speaker 3: it getting to this point. It's kind of on a
Speaker 3: lot of people's faces right now. So that is a
Speaker 3: good question. I don't know how we get from you know,
Speaker 3: obviously there's upset and the camp, the Jane Daniels camp
Speaker 3: is upset to obviously this this letter being made public,
Speaker 3: and obviously there was a statement from the ESPN report
Speaker 3: that kind of came along with it that hey, we're
Speaker 3: extremely disappointed and feel disrespected and all that stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's uh, it's a little confounding how we got to
Speaker 3: this point.
Speaker 2: I would say, how did Lane Kiffin respond yesterday?
Speaker 3: So we asked him if you had any comment. All
Speaker 3: he did was refer back to his previous statement, which
Speaker 3: is that again, Brian Kelly, previous staff promised it to
Speaker 3: him that he was just gonna follow through with that promise,
Speaker 3: and he wasn't adding anything more, we're moving on. It's
Speaker 3: what he's I even specifically asked them because there's a
Speaker 3: lot of wonderment out there. The number nine is not
Speaker 3: officially retired, but no, he's more number nine since show Burrow. Like,
Speaker 3: if you, as the coach were to have a player
Speaker 3: come to you and say can I have number nine?
Speaker 3: What would your thought process being? Obviously, because he's referring
Speaker 3: back to the previous staff on this issue, so then
Speaker 3: he didn't he said, hey, there's a lot of hypotheticals.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into that, and that's it.
Speaker 3: So he really didn't want to address the issue much
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: Any Further, every team has its standard practice, the letter
Speaker 2: of the law, if it is in fact a law
Speaker 2: for this is jerseys can be retired or current jerseys
Speaker 2: cannot be retired. This is where I'm a little bit perplexed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is probably where the issue is with
Speaker 3: LSU is they don't really don't. I mean, they have
Speaker 3: their their practice, which is that, yeah, after five years,
Speaker 3: your jersey can be retired, but that doesn't take the
Speaker 3: number out of circulation. The only number at LSU that
Speaker 3: is truly retired is Billy Cannon's number twenty for he
Speaker 3: won the Heisman in nineteen fifty nine. Joe Burrow's not
Speaker 3: officially retired, Jane Daniels is not officially retired. Nobody else
Speaker 3: is officially retired, and so it's really more of an unofficial,
Speaker 3: unwritten rule out of respect, and I think Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: even made a comment that he's been told by people
Speaker 3: at LSU that, you know, they're not going to use
Speaker 3: his number, and I think Jane was under the same impression,
Speaker 3: but there is no you know, this is retired done,
Speaker 3: that's it, so that that kind of creates the situation.
Speaker 2: I think John Blow, LSU reporter The Advocate Times picking
Speaker 2: you please tell me how LSU fans are feeling at
Speaker 2: this moment and perhaps if you can gauge which side
Speaker 2: they are on.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't think this was good for Jane
Speaker 3: Daniels at all. You know. We even went back and
Speaker 3: talked to DJ Pickett's family, talked to his dad because
Speaker 3: we were actually working on a story just about why
Speaker 3: the number five was important to DJ Pickett, and he said, hey, man,
Speaker 3: this the whole situationation makes us to wear the number
Speaker 3: even more. And when we posted that story, all kinds
Speaker 3: of LSU fans are saying, man, we love DJ Peckett
Speaker 3: even more, like go DJ, you know very much. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of LSU fans are upset that again
Speaker 3: this became this public, this this kind of you know, nasty,
Speaker 3: that this whole thing happened. I don't think that LSU
Speaker 3: fans are really on board with Jadan Daniels with this.
Speaker 2: Getting back to my request, respectfully to talk to me
Speaker 2: like I'm a five year old or a golden retriever,
Speaker 2: explain to me the name image and like this part
Speaker 2: of this, like what was really the claim?
Speaker 3: We don't know. I mean, it really doesn't make a
Speaker 3: whole lot of sense because I guess the only thing
Speaker 3: that maybe that they could say is, hey, take you know,
Speaker 3: Jayden's image out of these, you know, highlight reels or
Speaker 3: something like that, if you're showing you know, past highlight reels.
Speaker 3: Take Jayden out. But then is that good for Jayden
Speaker 3: that he's no longer being recognized or seen for what
Speaker 3: he did at LSU. I know there was a request
Speaker 3: for maybe the Heisman trophy, LSU's copy of the Heisman
Speaker 3: trophy be returned and maybe Jaden could put it where
Speaker 3: he wants to put it, maybe his old high school
Speaker 3: or something like that. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 3: LSU's copy, so I don't think he really has any
Speaker 3: right to that either. We're actually trying to get IP
Speaker 3: attorneys on the phone because yeah, yeah, who knows.
Speaker 2: Is there a way out of this? I mean, it
Speaker 2: seems like there's two sides ten toes down, and we
Speaker 2: did a poll here on Dan Patrick showed it was
Speaker 2: in favor of LSU. Side of it eighty twenty and
Speaker 2: you're telling me you're hearing very similar things, and it
Speaker 2: does make sense. Is there a way? Can you imagine
Speaker 2: a way out of this for Jade and Daniels?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, again, you already put it
Speaker 3: out there. You're upset, so everybody knows that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: If DJ Pickett's gonna stop wearing the number. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't that's a way out of it. If DJ
Speaker 3: wanted to change numbers and go back and say sorry,
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was gonna be this big of
Speaker 3: a problem. But that doesn't sound like that's happening. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, I don't know. I mean, build a statue
Speaker 3: for Jayden, try to get the two sides together to,
Speaker 3: you know, say hey, we have respect for you. This
Speaker 3: is how we're respecting you. Put a jersey, I don't know,
Speaker 3: patch on DJ Pickett's jersey.
Speaker 2: There you go, John Solutions oriented John Blow here, Yes,
Speaker 2: the patches, the statues, I can I can see where
Speaker 2: that is real quick. On the statue the Heisman trophy again,
Speaker 2: factor fiction asking for the high the Lsu version of
Speaker 2: the Heisman, where he already has his own version of
Speaker 2: the heisman, but asking for the l s U version
Speaker 2: of the heisman? Is that true? Is that? Is that
Speaker 2: what you've been able to surmise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that has come up. I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know how you know stringent that demand was. It
Speaker 3: wasn't in the actual ceasoned assist letter part. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if they're gonna take him to court over it,
Speaker 3: but it's but from what I've heard, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: that that was something that was asked. Again, it's LSU's I'm.
Speaker 2: My understanding as ells you buys that right.
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think he can demand. He can ask,
Speaker 3: but I don't think he can demand.
Speaker 2: Still searching for a way to get onto Daniel's head
Speaker 2: here and his side of it. I'm not there quite yet.
Speaker 2: One last question here, what would you consider a successful
Speaker 2: season for Link if.
Speaker 3: For this year the playoff? I think you know obviously BUS, Yes,
Speaker 3: I would say playoff or BUS. I know some people
Speaker 3: are saying National championship or BUS obviously, because they invested
Speaker 3: like forty plus million dollars in this roster, and obviously
Speaker 3: you paid fifty four million for Brian Kelly to leave,
Speaker 3: and so there's a lot invested. A lot riding on this,
Speaker 3: but I think as long as you make the playoff
Speaker 3: and or you're at least very much on the border line,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think if you missed it near the
Speaker 3: border line is gonna be allowed disappointment. But I just
Speaker 3: think you got to get to the playoffs, show your
Speaker 3: in contention, you know, for for bigger things, whether it
Speaker 3: had again winning a Natty like Urban Meyer said, they
Speaker 3: have to be within a swig of it. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's it, but I think getting to the playoff,
Speaker 3: I think is kind of the benchmark for the those guys.
Speaker 2: He's John blou LSU football reporter for The Advocate timespicking
Speaker 2: you so thankful for your time today being here with us.
Speaker 3: John, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: All right, that's John Blow and the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2: Solutions oriented here. I'm still in a place where we
Speaker 2: have to get Jade and Daniels right. I'm not okay
Speaker 2: with the world where former grade isn't allowed back in
Speaker 2: the college, or not going back to the college, or
Speaker 2: over something as silly as a number. Anyone have a
Speaker 2: solution here.
Speaker 4: Baullie, we were talking about this over here. Oklahoma football
Speaker 4: gives you a statue automatically if you win the heisman
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, Jason White, et cetera, et cetera. Automatic. Why
Speaker 4: doesn't LSU just do that? Do a billy I think
Speaker 4: they have a billy cannon. But you give one to
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, you give one to Jade and Daniels, and
Speaker 4: you don't retire numbers anymore. So you keep the numbers
Speaker 4: in play. You cover yourself. And I think I'd rather
Speaker 4: have a statue than a retired number. A retired number,
Speaker 4: just as Michael Evern said, goes away the statue. You
Speaker 4: have to walk by going into the building. Problem south.
Speaker 2: The numbers part of this is odd because again one
Speaker 2: hundred and ten uniforms in the sidelines of a home game,
Speaker 2: we've got two number twelves, two number eights. One's a
Speaker 2: kicker and one's a defensive lineman. It doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 2: They're two different bodies. Yeah, pull it.
Speaker 4: Going back to Oklahoma, just checked it. They don't retire
Speaker 4: numbers officially. Sometimes they hold it back like this, but
Speaker 4: they do the statue thing as a way to keep
Speaker 4: all their numbers in play.
Speaker 2: I hear you, Billy Simms, but I think what you're
Speaker 2: experiencing now is a different sales pitch that has become
Speaker 2: more popular in the current era of college football transfer portal.
Speaker 2: What chip can we put on the table to really
Speaker 2: bring these guys in here? I mean it's yeah, statue
Speaker 2: might do that, but just saying the kid wants the
Speaker 2: number they wore in high school, they got a tattoo,
Speaker 2: their first tattoo, they got an earring, they got they
Speaker 2: want that number. That's the chip that matters most. That
Speaker 2: woe is something that's just so much, so far out there.
Speaker 2: So coaches are doing anything they can. What means less
Speaker 2: than a problem is from a coach a college rebel culture,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they're doing anything they can to
Speaker 2: put it out there. And that's part of this doing
Speaker 2: a solution. Please, we'll play a little Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 5: Why doesn't What if DJ Pickett just says I'm gonna
Speaker 5: wear a different number.
Speaker 2: Of course, that would be an out here. I get it.
Speaker 2: He's an All American. Yeah, he was promised. And if
Speaker 2: you're an LSU football fan on Saturday, the most important
Speaker 2: thing is that your man lined up on the outside
Speaker 2: is in the best position to get that pick and
Speaker 2: win the game for you, and that's where your focus is.
Speaker 2: It's not so much you remember the good times with
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels. You have a nice remember when. But the
Speaker 2: player that's playing this Sunday or Saturday right now means most.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to Oklahoma. I'm on their website
Speaker 4: right now. You can make the case at Billy Simms,
Speaker 4: the Heis and Winner from the eighties might be the
Speaker 4: greatest Oklahoma players. There's others, but you think if someone's
Speaker 4: gonna have his jersey retired, there's two number twenties on
Speaker 4: the roster this year. They keep it in play. There's
Speaker 4: a running back in the defensive back, so.
Speaker 2: Other teams are gonna do it their way. If it
Speaker 2: comes back down to a head coach who's maybe been
Speaker 2: at that college for one or two years, maybe in
Speaker 2: this instance, has a very unique accent, who's making promises
Speaker 2: that Canny keep, yes, Willie keep, Who knows does he
Speaker 2: keep for the rest of his life? Not what he
Speaker 2: has to move on because it didn't work. Marvin.
Speaker 6: Should they treat the number five or the number nine
Speaker 6: like LSU treats the number seven. I think it's a
Speaker 6: new thing where Patrick Peterson War seven, and now you
Speaker 6: earn the number seven, Honey Badger War seven, Jamar Chase
Speaker 6: War seven, Tyron, I mean Leonard four at War seven.
Speaker 6: So that could be the new standard, like you could
Speaker 6: work your way to getting this number, and that means
Speaker 6: you're a guy there.
Speaker 2: I see the vision. I see the vision, Marvin. And
Speaker 2: that's what today is all about. We've got first weekend
Speaker 2: of preseason football. We'll go through some more of the
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Speaker 2: catching our eye. Fields of Dreams game was yesterday. I
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Speaker 2: of Dreams game. And in a little bit time, and
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Speaker 4: It's a Bears guy. That felt like a magical season
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Speaker 4: how they won them. It's tough to think that it's
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Speaker 2: So there are times in your life where you get
Speaker 2: a report, you hear a rumor, and you say, absolutely not,
Speaker 2: this is not even closely remotely true. Guys. When I
Speaker 2: was dreaming I would be on Jeopardy and I was
Speaker 2: dreaming a sports how you know question would come up
Speaker 2: for final Jeopardy and you know Alex at the time,
Speaker 2: and my dream would ask me, Tony, what did you wager?
Speaker 2: And my answer would be life. I wager my life.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get this wrong. It's a sports
Speaker 2: question on Jeopardy. If I do get it wrong, my
Speaker 2: life's over. So if I do get it right, my
Speaker 2: life's over. I would wager my life that the rumor
Speaker 2: I read this week that Indiana Bears was in play
Speaker 2: for a team name change, I mean, come on out,
Speaker 2: what do we say? No shots? And that's what we
Speaker 2: found out this week. But now I turn to my
Speaker 2: friend Courtney Cronin, who I am just so happy it is.
Speaker 2: See Courtney, how are you? How's the family? It's been
Speaker 2: so long. Oh look at that. I know that's the
Speaker 2: smiling face of Courtney Cronin.
Speaker 8: I've missed you. I've missed you a lot. I'm so
Speaker 8: glad that I miss you more in the seat, and
Speaker 8: I'm glad that we have a chance to talk about
Speaker 8: the non Indiana Yes him into Bears, I think is
Speaker 8: what they were rumored to have maybe been thinking about
Speaker 8: changing their name too, but that's not going to happen.
Speaker 8: We heard from George McCaskey yesterday they go to Hammond.
Speaker 8: If they stay in Arlington Heights, stay in Illinois and
Speaker 8: build in Arlington Heights, they are still the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: It's a saga though, all right, we're going on four years,
Speaker 2: five years? How real is Hammond now? Is Illinois actually
Speaker 2: losing the Bears? Should it happen? Can can a team
Speaker 2: feel it's still their state team even if it's over
Speaker 2: a state line? How do I live in New York
Speaker 2: and the New York teams playing New Jersey? But how
Speaker 2: does a Midwesterner feel about that?
Speaker 8: So for me, I try to think geographically, what is
Speaker 8: going to be the biggest burden for fans and the
Speaker 8: people who are going to games at Soldier Field right
Speaker 8: now won't have to travel that much further if they
Speaker 8: move to Hammond, because it's right around the bend in
Speaker 8: the Lake. It's twenty something miles away. It's not that far.
Speaker 8: But there are people who look at this and say,
Speaker 8: how could you move a charter franchise, a team that's
Speaker 8: going into its one hundredth and seventh season across state
Speaker 8: lines into Indiana? How can the state of Illinois allow
Speaker 8: this to happen? How can they not throw a hail
Speaker 8: Mary Well, They've had four years to try to figure
Speaker 8: it out, and we are still at this conundrum that
Speaker 8: the Bears clearly don't want to go to Indiana because
Speaker 8: they could have been gone by now. But now Illinois,
Speaker 8: since they haven't done anything in a while, they did
Speaker 8: not pass legislation at the Bears say they need to
Speaker 8: build this stadium, which is that tax certainty in the
Speaker 8: form of the pilot bill, which is payment in lieu
Speaker 8: of taxes. I've become like an expert on this stuff,
Speaker 8: you know, the antelayer stuff. I love the Exes and
Speaker 8: Osa football, but I really really love like talking about, like,
Speaker 8: you know, the cost of steel rides, roads widening, and
Speaker 8: how that whole thing is gonna work. But yeah, no,
Speaker 8: I mean there's a lot of fans that look at
Speaker 8: this and say, I'll still be a fan, but I'm
Speaker 8: not gonna want to go to games, which I don't
Speaker 8: know if I entirely buy that the team can exist
Speaker 8: in this region, whether it's in Illinois or Indiana and
Speaker 8: still maintain the same identity. But it's it's definitely become
Speaker 8: this revolving door of information where you're not really getting
Speaker 8: any new information, just things moved around that leads you
Speaker 8: to the same place, right, but also not have a
Speaker 8: new stadium and they've been trying to do this now
Speaker 8: for four years.
Speaker 2: But also misinformation. It's almost like you feel the Indiana
Speaker 2: Bears came out that report, the rumor came out, you know,
Speaker 2: purposefully as a cudgel to throw out and some of
Speaker 2: this also is in a negotiating strategy on the other side.
Speaker 2: From Illinois perspective too, That's what it feels like for
Speaker 2: me from.
Speaker 8: AFAR, Well, let me address that report that what came out,
Speaker 8: whatever was floating out there the other day. Respectfully, I
Speaker 8: don't give that report much credence. Someone's claiming they are
Speaker 8: an analyst. You're usually an analyst if you're an expert
Speaker 8: in a certain subject matter. No incredible on the beat,
Speaker 8: no one credible who covers the team is around the
Speaker 8: team was reporting anything about this, and from what you know,
Speaker 8: I talked to a very high level source on Wednesday night.
Speaker 8: I was told it was not going to be a
Speaker 8: major stadium announcement, and it really wasn't. The only new
Speaker 8: thing we learned yesterday was that there's now an additional site,
Speaker 8: so the wolf Lake Terminal, the lost marsh site two
Speaker 8: areas that Tony, you have no clue. I would like
Speaker 8: to pull up a map right now and make you
Speaker 8: pick out him in Indiana. Like moving to it, you'll
Speaker 8: probably get the general region. But like they're they're going
Speaker 8: to maybe merge these two sites because they've been doing
Speaker 8: all of this due diligence and testing to make sure
Speaker 8: that it's safe. And we're not going to walk away
Speaker 8: with you know, some sort of you know, a third
Speaker 8: leg growing out of our body because it isn't an
Speaker 8: area where there's steel mills exactly a lot of environment.
Speaker 2: But just imagine a running back with three legs though,
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, what are we talking about here?
Speaker 8: Unfair advantage for thirty one other teams?
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what, Corny, thank you so much, And
Speaker 2: of course that's why I'm happy I have you here
Speaker 2: to tell me what's so unfounded and lacking founding. Let's
Speaker 2: get on the field please here. You've talked to Ben
Speaker 2: Johnson all summer. Ben Johnson this week made a little
Speaker 2: bit of news talking about his goal and the goal
Speaker 2: was for the greatest off ens in the history of
Speaker 2: the NFL. How serious is he and that type of
Speaker 2: ambition is that a good thing or maybe not so
Speaker 2: good thing.
Speaker 8: I think he is as serious as a heart attack.
Speaker 8: That is who Ben Johnson is. It's not to him
Speaker 8: that is not an unreasonable goal. That's how he views
Speaker 8: this team. He came in and took a team that
Speaker 8: was awful from a year before and won five games
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty four and turned them into the NFC
Speaker 8: North champion and an organization that won its first franch
Speaker 8: on its first playoff game in fifteen years. You do
Speaker 8: that in year one, you're not going to be trying
Speaker 8: to set anything other than shoot for the moon level
Speaker 8: goals for the rest of your tenure as the Bears coach.
Speaker 8: Which he's brought something to this group that they didn't have,
Speaker 8: which is tangible hope based on actual results. At this
Speaker 8: time last year, we weren't exactly sure how Caleb Williams
Speaker 8: was going to look in this offense, whether it would
Speaker 8: be explosive. We knew it worked in Detroit, but you
Speaker 8: had Jared Goff and a quarterback in a quarterback who
Speaker 8: had done so much throughout his career that he'd already
Speaker 8: proven himself, and you wondered how that would translate to
Speaker 8: Chicago it took a while, took the whole offseason, took
Speaker 8: the first month of the season, and then they started
Speaker 8: to figure it out. Now you build upon that, and
Speaker 8: for Ben, who is one of the most relentless competitors
Speaker 8: I've ever been around, I've ever covered. I mean, in
Speaker 8: the story that was written on the Athletic, they talk
Speaker 8: about that laser stare, and I've been on the receiving
Speaker 8: end of that laser stare in some press conferences. That
Speaker 8: thing will like see right through your soul. And that's
Speaker 8: just who he is as someone who wants to put
Speaker 8: up a ton of points, win games and blowout fashion.
Speaker 8: And I believe he called for shutouts.
Speaker 2: Too, so oh he wants it all right.
Speaker 8: Once it all I mean, the thing is he's writing
Speaker 8: a lot of checks that he better hope his players
Speaker 8: can cash because this is going to be bulletin board
Speaker 8: material for all the teams that they face this year.
Speaker 8: Defenses are going to say they're trying to embarrass you
Speaker 8: out there. They're trying to put up forty fifty on
Speaker 8: you every single game, and there's going to be an
Speaker 8: incentive to stop that. But realistically, they do have the
Speaker 8: pieces around Caleb Williams, from Colston Lovelin to Luther Burden,
Speaker 8: Roma Dunze, all these receivers.
Speaker 2: Put so much greatest NFL history.
Speaker 8: Wow, okayah in the run the run game too, I
Speaker 8: mean it's I can't blame Ben Johnson for shooting for
Speaker 8: such a high goal. Although from where they were a
Speaker 8: year ago to where they are now, you can see
Speaker 8: it more clearly how they'll be able to get there
Speaker 8: because they're going to have to score a lot of
Speaker 8: points to win games given some of the injuries they
Speaker 8: have on defense.
Speaker 2: You mentioned bulletin board material, Well, that's what it was.
Speaker 2: And the three teams in the division, this may be
Speaker 2: the best division in football? Do you feel that? I
Speaker 2: think the North is and now give me the pecking
Speaker 2: order here as we approached the end of August.
Speaker 8: So i'd probably I know that Bears and you talk
Speaker 8: about those one score games, there's a place of regression
Speaker 8: that is a natural conversation landing point when you go
Speaker 8: from one year to the next. Can you win all
Speaker 8: of these games in the fourth quarter when you're down
Speaker 8: and there's two minutes left and you're go into overtime.
Speaker 8: We saw it with the Chiefs last year that is
Speaker 8: an area that quickly sees a drop off that you
Speaker 8: don't just get to carry that year to year. But
Speaker 8: I still put them as the second best team right
Speaker 8: now entering the twenty twenty sixty because there's a lot
Speaker 8: that has to be accounted for on defense. The offense
Speaker 8: is going to have to score a lot of points,
Speaker 8: and I think they can, but I'd go Green Bay Chicago.
Speaker 8: I moved Detroit to third because they have so some
Speaker 8: significant injuries along the offensive line. Their center just has
Speaker 8: a hand injury that's pretty significant. They've had a lot
Speaker 8: of moving parts up there. It's not something that I
Speaker 8: expect to make them a four, five six win team.
Speaker 8: I still think that they're team that could end up
Speaker 8: being a wild card team, But I am not convinced
Speaker 8: that just because they bring in a new offensive coordinator
Speaker 8: and they've got some of the same pieces, namely the
Speaker 8: quarterback and the wide receivers there, that this is not
Speaker 8: going to be an offense that deals with some more attrition.
Speaker 8: But then behind them as Minnesota, I don't think JJ
Speaker 8: McCarthy or Kyler Murray. There were not really any rave
Speaker 8: reviews consistently about either of them. This to me felt
Speaker 8: like the obvious answer in going with Murray. So until
Speaker 8: we see if the reclamate project can work on another quarterback,
Speaker 8: I've got my doubts about that Minnesota Vikings team.
Speaker 2: Which Bear is ready for the breakout? Who are we
Speaker 2: not talking about enough?
Speaker 8: Luther Burden. He is a spark plug to this offense
Speaker 8: and he's got the swagger. I guess what the kids
Speaker 8: would call Aura to back it up. The way that
Speaker 8: he plays in practices is the way that you see
Speaker 8: him play in games, and he started to come on
Speaker 8: last year, just like big explosive games can get away
Speaker 8: from defenders. Will add so much to a passing offense
Speaker 8: that already has so many weapons. And what the Bears
Speaker 8: hope for with this offense is that they don't have
Speaker 8: to say that guy is wide receiver one, that guy
Speaker 8: is going to have the most receiving yards every single week,
Speaker 8: because one week it could be Colston Lovelin, one week
Speaker 8: it could be Roma Dune, say Luther Burden. I mean,
Speaker 8: we saw the mix of that last year, but I
Speaker 8: really think in his second year that Burden, who by
Speaker 8: all accounts should have been a first round pick. We'll
Speaker 8: let that first round talent show very early in his
Speaker 8: second season.
Speaker 2: And that just elevates Caleb Williams. Yeah, And is there
Speaker 2: one thing you're looking for with Caleb Williams right now
Speaker 2: to say this is the jump he needs to really
Speaker 2: get to that next level. And what do you think
Speaker 2: that next level can be? What is this ceiling?
Speaker 8: The things you want to see from him are not
Speaker 8: the spectacular place, because you know those are coming. You
Speaker 8: know when he puts that Superman cap on fourth quarter,
Speaker 8: two minute drill, hurry up, whatever it is, game on
Speaker 8: the line situation, he's going to come through. As boring
Speaker 8: as this sounds, I want to see him do the simple,
Speaker 8: really really well, do less. That was how quarterback Their
Speaker 8: quarterbacks coach JT. Barrett prased it this offseason. If you
Speaker 8: have a moment where you can just take the checkdown
Speaker 8: instead of dropping back, evading pressure, scrambling around to get
Speaker 8: the same ten yard game that you could get on
Speaker 8: a much easier pass, then go the path of least resistance.
Speaker 8: Don't make it harder on yourself. He's the best clutch
Speaker 8: quarterback that we saw last season bar none. I mean
Speaker 8: they had seven wins when they were down, including the playoffs.
Speaker 8: In that game against Green Bay where they're trailing in
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter or overtime and they win those games.
Speaker 8: So that's a big part of who the quarterback is.
Speaker 8: He doesn't get the Madden cover if he's not doing
Speaker 8: the fourth and eighth throw to Romadunze or running backwards
Speaker 8: and then throwing the pass to cole Kmet to keep
Speaker 8: this team alive and go to overtime against the Rams.
Speaker 8: We know he can do that. What you want to
Speaker 8: see is can he be a complete quarterback? Can you
Speaker 8: do those things earlier in games too? Because they kept
Speaker 8: it interesting. They want to be boring. They want to
Speaker 8: be a team that, yes, boats up a lot of points,
Speaker 8: but it's not coming down to the final moments of
Speaker 8: the game. Do it in the first half. Set yourself
Speaker 8: up for success by getting out to an early leads,
Speaker 8: so you're not constantly having to be in panic and
Speaker 8: ketchup mode.
Speaker 2: But we're friends. I could put you on the spot here,
Speaker 2: give you the number if he had just that dial,
Speaker 2: h's his ceiling? What is his number? In the NFL
Speaker 2: Quarterback Power Rankings coron in edition.
Speaker 8: Top top six, top seven quarterback. I think most people
Speaker 8: will have him in that ten, eleven, twelve range. Right now,
Speaker 8: which is totally fair. But he starts to adjust that
Speaker 8: dial and I don't even think if you're looking for
Speaker 8: like a specific number. Should he hit four thousand yards?
Speaker 8: He came close last year. I know the Bears have
Speaker 8: never had a four thousand yard passer. It is a
Speaker 8: major milestone that he himself wants to achieve. But if
Speaker 8: he hits the benchmarks of doing less and doing less
Speaker 8: really well on top of all the great things that
Speaker 8: he does, is such an explosive playmaker, then he's one
Speaker 8: of the top quarterbacks in the league. I'd say, you know,
Speaker 8: six or seven is a very fair place to put
Speaker 8: Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: All right, last question here to get you on this.
Speaker 2: We just saw something incredible in Chicago, Pope power with
Speaker 2: the Chicago White Sox, with the Pope hat Knight that
Speaker 2: took over the stadium. Can I impart to you the
Speaker 2: benefits of Pope power for the Bear season? What that
Speaker 2: might look like? Maybe you have a suggestion here, but
Speaker 2: you have he had to be a Bears fan, right,
Speaker 2: so he was in order to capture that. What are
Speaker 2: the Bears the a confessional handshake, a piece as their
Speaker 2: touchdown celebration or defensive celebration. I'm just throwing some stuff
Speaker 2: out here. Think about pop power.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the ambassador to the Vatican, by way of Caleb
Speaker 8: Williams Foundation. Back in July, I brought a Caleb Williams
Speaker 8: sign jersey to the Vatican to hand to Pope Leo,
Speaker 8: which I'm sure made him very happy. He has a
Speaker 8: lot of White Sox memorabilia. I know that the Bulls
Speaker 8: gave him a jersey as well, But to get that
Speaker 8: Caleb Williams jersey, it's a it's a hot commodity.
Speaker 2: It's a hot commodity.
Speaker 8: I don't know if the Pope's aware of just like
Speaker 8: how much people would want that. But you know, there's
Speaker 8: one football team in Chicago. Yeah, it's not like the
Speaker 8: baseball teams. Like if you can be ordained by the Pope,
Speaker 8: unlike the Chicago Cubs, you probably have on the outsider.
Speaker 2: Yeah, White Sox three straight hundred lost seasons. They're in
Speaker 2: first place right now. If they were to do that,
Speaker 2: that would be the first in the history of baseball
Speaker 2: to ever do that. Why because of the Pope. Now
Speaker 2: the Bears next thing, you know, four thousand yard seasons
Speaker 2: for everything. Pope power. I had some Cordy Crode in power.
Speaker 2: This is why she had a thirty three percent win
Speaker 2: percentage and around the horns, and that's this is why.
Speaker 2: Thank you Courtney so much for being here for me today.
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me. This was fun. This is fun,
Speaker 8: and I'm glad that my winning percentage stands in history.
Speaker 8: Yes it aware, it's top ten somewhere like Aayler Williams.
Speaker 8: I top ten in something.
Speaker 2: Say hello to your brother and mother for me. All right,
Speaker 2: thank you, Gordy Crote. And now she is ESPN NFL
Speaker 2: reporter for the Chicago Bears. Got the story. We know it.
Speaker 2: We know where they stand, we know where Ben Johnson stands.
Speaker 2: He wants this offense to be the greatest of all time.
Speaker 2: Number one offensive all time, Fritzy, I don't even need
Speaker 2: to look your way. The current NFL record offense for
Speaker 2: this year, No in all time, but the best offense.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with the.
Speaker 2: Rams, Fritzie, greatest.
Speaker 3: You were rolling so high.
Speaker 2: You and me were simple and sharp, and McCaffrey and
Speaker 2: Rod Smith and those guys. No, it's the Denver Broncos
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning year.
Speaker 4: Oh, I have a touchdown.
Speaker 2: This is tea ball time. No, we're going statistic, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they didn't jump at me with the offense though that
Speaker 2: you're thinking of the Super Bowl year the next year
Speaker 2: where Peyton Manning couldn't throw the ball and they won it.
Speaker 2: The year before that, he starts the NFL season with
Speaker 2: seven touchdowns in a Sunday night game. Julian Thomas, Do
Speaker 2: I have this right? And the greatest offensive all time
Speaker 2: statistically in points and in yardage is that Denver Broncos team.
Speaker 2: That's what Ben Jonson said, is the goal to put
Speaker 2: up numbers like that Paully. Yeah.
Speaker 4: A couple other offenses that were in the mix, the
Speaker 4: seven Patriots, horse than ninety nine Rams. How about that
Speaker 4: ninety eight Vikings team.
Speaker 2: Oh remember well.
Speaker 4: Randall cutting him and Randy Moss. Randy Moss was on
Speaker 4: two of these top five offenses, by the way, and
Speaker 4: the eighty four Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty four Dolphins was Marino's breakout year. And I
Speaker 2: think that Vikings team is the most slept on of
Speaker 2: those teams because they did not win and they had
Speaker 2: a missed chip shot field goal separating them from again
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl instead of Atlanta. After the ninety
Speaker 2: eight season, but that was a year where they put
Speaker 2: it all together and had five hundred points of offense
Speaker 2: and those others. Greatest show on turf. But Fritzi, Fritzi, I.
Speaker 3: Think of that year.
Speaker 2: I think of that, you know, no fly zone and
Speaker 2: the defense. That's why it even statistically, I guess. But
Speaker 2: I didn't think of them as like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: all right, well, Fritzy missed the mark there on his
Speaker 2: it's allowed on his Denver Broncos. The Bears as an
Speaker 2: offensive juggernaut. Just the words don't even sound right coming
Speaker 2: out of them out But maybe that's what they need
Speaker 2: to break through. Maybe that's what it is. We went
Speaker 2: through all the NFL games last night. You guys can
Speaker 2: bring it back for me. Field of Dreams game on Netflix.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about that for a second after the break.
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's take a break right here in the
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. Maybe some calls as well. Eight seven
Speaker 2: to seven to three DP show. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: We had some of the all time grades, many of
Speaker 2: the all time grades you may get in your Pinini pack.
Speaker 2: Last night Field of Dreams game in Iowa, twenty six
Speaker 2: Hall of Famers emerged from the Stalks. Do I have
Speaker 2: that right? I'm really out of my three year the
Speaker 2: corn Stalks in the Iowa Cornfield Field of Dreams games.
Speaker 2: We've seen it before. This is another goal around. Does
Speaker 2: it still work for you? I don't mean to impart
Speaker 2: a poll upon you, Dylan, but maybe that could be
Speaker 2: a poll. Maybe this could be your elusive fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty Field of Dreams. Does it still work for you? Well?
Speaker 5: We actually do want a quick update on our previous poll,
Speaker 5: search for the perfect.
Speaker 2: Poll, I search for perfection.
Speaker 5: We put up the best week of preseason football week one, two,
Speaker 5: or three. We are so close. We're in the thirties
Speaker 5: on all three of them.
Speaker 2: Did I not tell you you were perfection? Dylan? You
Speaker 2: dideo man? Yeah? Where are we? Thirty three? Thirty three,
Speaker 2: thirty three? Do we hit it? Not quite?
Speaker 5: We're at thirty one point four for week one, thirty
Speaker 5: seven point seven for week two, which I was a
Speaker 5: little surprised about, in thirty point nine for week three.
Speaker 2: There we're on the press best. Here's what I need
Speaker 2: people for your week one uie threes. I need you
Speaker 2: to more than I ever needed to just come on
Speaker 2: and get us to tighten this up to thirty three
Speaker 2: thirty three and help me prove to dil And he's
Speaker 2: perfect in every way. He's work. He's working for that
Speaker 2: thirty three thirty three thirty three, which I think is
Speaker 2: more challenging than the fifty to fifty. All right, another
Speaker 2: poll could be in play. Is it still working for you?
Speaker 2: The The Field of Dreams game Fritzy Place.
Speaker 6: I was going to ask you in the room, when
Speaker 6: is something that's unique and special become a gimmick?
Speaker 2: It two years, in four years, in nine years? If
Speaker 2: it works, it works. But I didn't watch any of
Speaker 2: the Field of Dreams. I didn't fill in each two
Speaker 2: years in four years in two shows in on a
Speaker 2: Thursday Fridays. Is that what you're saying? When is that
Speaker 2: sorry that she'll become a gimme.
Speaker 1: A Paul.
Speaker 2: You haven't answer that question.
Speaker 4: I watched quite a bit of it The Field Dreams
Speaker 4: last night, and I kind of is a reminder of
Speaker 4: how great it was. It's gotten a little built up
Speaker 4: and you know, a little predictable.
Speaker 2: But it's still very cool.
Speaker 4: And you know, based off that movie Field of Dreams,
Speaker 4: it's got such staying power. What almost forty years later,
Speaker 4: it was a cool night and I could take three
Speaker 4: hours to watch it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So now I see we could be getting closer
Speaker 2: to fifty to fifty for it. He's leaning one way,
Speaker 2: pole he's reading or one of them. Maybe it is
Speaker 2: a certifiable poll here is it's still working for you, Marvin.
Speaker 6: The only thing that threw me off was the Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 6: I thought it was gonna be the Phillies, Yankees, Phillies,
Speaker 6: Blue Jays, Phillies Dodgers, two more relevant teams than that
Speaker 6: first see. I don't think if you air it, we
Speaker 6: will watch the playoff of the little movie titled.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Well you know what that was actually a belly laugh
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: You get the points there. We are gonna go around
Speaker 2: the man Cave in an hour three stick around for that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna I really want to see your takes for
Speaker 2: the day. And here's where I am with this. And
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, Marvin, But Cornfields, Minnesota again
Speaker 2: out of my jurisdiction. But the Yankees. Maybe it don't
Speaker 2: need to be playing in cornfields every year that was
Speaker 2: that was special when they did. Pastime is the word, right,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a dangerous word in league offices
Speaker 2: or I'm a company that's going to disrupt things type feel,
Speaker 2: which is what everybody wants to be pastime. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to be associated just with the past. It means you're old, right.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants younger, newer, They want to grow. They want growth,
Speaker 2: which is a great thing as well. But then when
Speaker 2: you want that and you get blindfolded or blinders on
Speaker 2: to do that, you get the hottest TikTok dancer on
Speaker 2: social media and your greatest streamer who does pranks doing
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl or doing this this game that we
Speaker 2: don't need that for this game. I think baseball is wise.
Speaker 2: And I said this on the show that I was
Speaker 2: a guest after the All Star Game. They leaned into
Speaker 2: the sandlot, and you can do that here. You can
Speaker 2: your baseball lean into the past time. One thing about
Speaker 2: this game that really s me is man Kyle Schwarber.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know he hits home runs and we
Speaker 2: know he's got it right, but there's a stat out there.
Speaker 2: Curtsey of Sarah Lang's the best in the business, the
Speaker 2: stat Queen most home runs in your first five seasons
Speaker 2: with the team, Babe Ruth Yankees two thirty five. Kyle
Speaker 2: Schwarber Phillies two twenty five, after his two last night
Speaker 2: that we witnessed the past of baseball and very much
Speaker 2: the present with Kyle Schwarber. The type of player I'd
Speaker 2: like to see in a cornfield, Big Burley hacking, hey
Speaker 2: or whatever you do, Kyle Schwarber. I'm all for the
Speaker 2: fields of dreams. Dan Patrick show back on the other side.