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Speaker 1: Paul caldc. You know there are different ways to approach

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Speaker 1: an NFL training camp, right, I mean there's different players,

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Speaker 1: different game plans or different players. And I saw an

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Speaker 1: interview with a Hollywood luminary recently and they were told

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Speaker 1: before embarking on their career acting, writing, producing, the advice

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Speaker 1: within the industry of Hollywood was, you know what be

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Speaker 1: a Michael not a Sonny Danny, would you care to

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Speaker 1: speculate as to what that's in reference too? Have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen the Godfather? See, you didn't even give me

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Speaker 1: a chance to say it, because I know you know

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Speaker 1: the answer. I know Jim does not know the answer

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Speaker 1: because he's the one person on the face of the

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Speaker 1: earth who has not seen the god WHOA Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: the only person. First of all, you said, luminary, Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, three people out of four have not seen

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Speaker 1: the Godfather and we have him assembled in this room.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I mean I know of it. I've seen scenes,

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Speaker 1: but I've never actually watched the movie. I might actually

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Speaker 1: need a VET day. I was sort of like Will Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: I've yet to really exercise a VET day. This might

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Speaker 1: be the moment where I need a VET day. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen The Rock a mental health day with Nicholas

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Speaker 1: cage Y? Yeah, okay, just check one of the finest films. Well,

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Speaker 1: at least we're two for four on that one instead

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Speaker 1: of one for four. So anyway, the point of it,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about something I can contribute to goodness. The

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Speaker 1: point is, if you're a Michael, you take a slow, intelligent,

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Speaker 1: calculated approach. If you're a sonny, you're more of a hothead,

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Speaker 1: and you come out flame and hot writing your eyes.

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Speaker 1: Is that Pacino and uh and James con exactly jokes

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Speaker 1: more the hot head, right, And I've never even seen it,

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Speaker 1: and I just guessed the meeting. So if if you're

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Speaker 1: the Sunny, end up shot up on the freeway, okay,

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Speaker 1: in a gang slain. But if you're Michael, end up

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Speaker 1: ahead of the mafia, so you know, just have a

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Speaker 1: calculated approach. But did you ruin the movie for me?

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Speaker 1: Is there no point for me even watching now? No?

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Speaker 1: I know you were running out to see them. Sure, no,

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Speaker 1: there's there's three more hours for you to sit there

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Speaker 1: over your labor day weekend and catch up on things

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Speaker 1: that you need to all right, it's Americana Danny for pizza. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my goodness. Okay, So there. Oh that's an epic fail

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Speaker 1: to start this edition of Cardinals Underground. Paul calBC, Darren Urban,

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Speaker 1: Danny Serek, anybody else want to start, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I'll take out my angst on the ap writer. Darren,

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Speaker 1: you know one of your one your brethren up there

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Speaker 1: in the press box. Yes, it was a game wrap

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Speaker 1: story Cardinals Bengals Week one, Yes, preseason, and the big

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Speaker 1: flaming headline called it a sloppy preseason game. Really, Cardinals

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Speaker 1: had no turnovers and they had only two penalties. He

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Speaker 1: was a Cincinnati writer, Paul, Cincinnati base But you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be writing it a game rap, I mean overall, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would you call it a sloppy certainly not from the

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Speaker 1: you what was most impressive to me, honestly, Evan McPherson

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Speaker 1: detraction from this conversation. Number one the addition, didn't Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury already say that the regulars are not going against Tennessee?

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Speaker 1: I think he did say the regulars are going to

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Speaker 1: get you know, ball cap. But as Trace McSorley a regular,

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Speaker 1: that's what she's saying is Trace McSorley might not even

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Speaker 1: All right, here's the demerit for me. I should know

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Speaker 1: this will play quarterback in the Tennessee game. I would

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Speaker 1: pay money. You know, this camp really is about all

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Speaker 1: the dominion of Americans. Honestly, if you want to break

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Speaker 1: it down, if there's one theme that Darren has failed

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Speaker 1: dominating Cardinals camp two thousand. I can't see you guys

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Speaker 1: just tell you that much right here. I should know this.

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Speaker 1: Did Kyler play any preseason snaps a year ago? Didn't

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Speaker 1: he play in the second game against Dallas? He did, right?

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Speaker 1: He played a series or two? Yeah? I feel like yes,

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Speaker 1: Was Danny Serrek at that game? No? Why not? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You didn't go to any games? That's right. I did

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Speaker 1: not work for the Arizona Cardinals at that point. No,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground sloppy. We've been sloppy. So we have to

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Speaker 1: start this podcast all of us. No, not you know,

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Speaker 1: just men. Don't take once again, don't take any Danny,

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Speaker 1: don't take any of Darren stuff. Because once you were

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Speaker 1: didn't need anything else. The rest of it was hard knocks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the drone video it's hard knocks. Yes, yeah, once again,

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Speaker 1: of mental errors. These are things I should know, and

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Speaker 1: that's okay. That's what camp's for. I'm gonna get these

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Speaker 1: Once is a mistake, Twice is a choice, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm trying to remember the Kyler to Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: We're finally seen in practice. Right now, we can talk

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Speaker 1: And actually, uh easy, Cardinal's twitter feed did get the

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Speaker 1: throwing a quote unquote touchdown to Hollywood. So there's video

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Speaker 1: six weeks, that would be AJ Green, Well, that's true,

423
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Speaker 1: you're right, sloppy again another, I'm just trying to figure

424
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Speaker 1: out that's at least three that I think at that

425
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Speaker 1: point we're talking about the top four guys when everybody's back,

426
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Speaker 1: So Hollywood Brown, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Green more yep, Week seven,

427
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Speaker 1: Week seven, that'll be on Thursday Night football. Scary, I don't,

428
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that there are other teams

429
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Speaker 1: that have here's the best part when you just say

430
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Speaker 1: it's pretty scary. My first thought is for Wolf, it's

431
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Speaker 1: really scary. You're talking about using ten personnel. Here's here's

432
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Speaker 1: a great thing. I do I think he's gonna when

433
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Speaker 1: they have all those guys, will they use ten personnel? Yeah?

434
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Speaker 1: But like I just feel like they've moved in such

435
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Speaker 1: a direction, like how often are they really gonna use

436
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Speaker 1: ten personnel? I mean, I think Ultimately, when Hop comes back,

437
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Speaker 1: I think the guy that's gonna lose some snaps is

438
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Speaker 1: aj Green, especially since um Cliff has said I want

439
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Speaker 1: to watch his snaps. This year, we probably overused them.

440
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Speaker 1: But when you have the tight ends, you do somebody,

441
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Speaker 1: somebody's got to not play right in From all accounts,

442
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: zach Ertz, even though we haven't seen very much of

443
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Speaker 1: him in this camp, he had a heck of an offseason.

444
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: In that first part of Cardinals camp, he looked really good.

445
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: So you're gonna try and get zach Ertz as many

446
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Speaker 1: snaps as possible in the regular season. I mean, you

447
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Speaker 1: think about the potential there because really, you know, as

448
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: the coaches will tell you, we major in three wide receivers,

449
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Speaker 1: they're really major and eleven personnel. Yeah, you know, does

450
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Speaker 1: Cliff run like that. That's that's sort of the way

451
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Speaker 1: the coach coach explained it to me last week in

452
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Speaker 1: the sideline. We Madejorn eleven personnel. Although the Cardinals I

453
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Speaker 1: think have led the league along with Sean McVay until

454
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Speaker 1: they adjusted their offensive year ago, and ten personnel, four

455
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. That's just part of the Cliff system. But

456
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Speaker 1: but to see the straight ahead run game in Cincinnati

457
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Speaker 1: and to see what the way the offensive line came

458
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Speaker 1: off the ball. I get it, they're mostly backups, but

459
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Speaker 1: if that signals a change in mentality, maybe a little bit.

460
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Speaker 1: I know. Steve Hyden, the tight ends coach, was on

461
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Speaker 1: the Red Sea Report with Craig Grilou and Drew Stanton.

462
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Speaker 1: He talked a little bit about that about incorporating more

463
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Speaker 1: the power run game this year because of that four

464
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: to five tight end room and because of the stable

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Speaker 1: of running backs, and because you have will Hernandez, a

466
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Speaker 1: little bit of nasty and some people who can up

467
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Speaker 1: round who can really make that happen. So, by the way,

468
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Speaker 1: speaking of running backs, Danny, what do you think who's

469
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Speaker 1: who are the clubhouse leaders and who's on the outside

470
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Speaker 1: looking in right now? This is a very tricky subject.

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Speaker 1: Darren and I were actually talking at practice about that

472
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Speaker 1: today because I truthfully don't know. I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: that they will carry four and put one on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad, but try to put one on the project. Yes,

475
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Speaker 1: it's this is a really interesting situation. You've got James Connor,

476
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Speaker 1: and you've got Darryl Williams, and you've got Eno Benjamin

477
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Speaker 1: and those three are set. I'm gonna I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: eno Benjamin is set. Okay, So then it comes down

479
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Speaker 1: to Jonathan Ward, who is great on special teams, and

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Speaker 1: you're rookie Kiante Ingram who doesn't have a lot of

481
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Speaker 1: experience on special teams. But they like him and they

482
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Speaker 1: like his potential. So is it too much to carry

483
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Speaker 1: four running backs and put Keanta Ingraham on the practice squad?

484
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Speaker 1: Is this a situation where you, Darren and I were talking.

485
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Speaker 1: I don't think you could put Jonathan Ward on the

486
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Speaker 1: practice squad and he doesn't get poached. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he makes it through waivers. Do you think he

488
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Speaker 1: makes it through waivers? Bull, I'll tell you Jonathan Ward

489
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Speaker 1: that that is a good one. I mean, what's his

490
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Speaker 1: rep around the league in terms of the special team snaps?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he gets taken just as a running back.

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Speaker 1: I don't either, But that's the thing. You know, how

493
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Speaker 1: well known is he though? As a special team's demon? All? Right?

494
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Speaker 1: As somebody? But don't you guys agree? You know is set?

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Speaker 1: So it really comes down to Jonathan Ward of or right? Yeah? Well,

496
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Speaker 1: I will say this being around some personnel guys. You'd

497
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Speaker 1: be surprised with how much minutia these personnel guys, because

498
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: I've heard the personnel guys for the Cardinals talking, and

499
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Speaker 1: they trust me. They know everybody that's worth a day.

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Speaker 1: So my guess is somebody knows because it only takes

501
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Speaker 1: one team to claim Jonathan Ward. You don't have to

502
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Speaker 1: have everybody love him. You just need one team that

503
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Speaker 1: needs a special teamer and a running back. Now, I'm

504
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Speaker 1: not saying that that would happen or that that's who

505
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Speaker 1: they cut. Here's another thought. You keep all five on

506
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Speaker 1: the initial cutdown, and then at some point during the

507
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Speaker 1: week you make the release when everybody's kind of settled

508
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Speaker 1: into their rosters, and then you try and sneak him

509
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Speaker 1: back on the practice squad. That's a guess. Yeah, no,

510
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Speaker 1: I could see that happening. I don't know who they

511
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Speaker 1: would cut. I don't think they would cut Jonathan Ward.

512
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Speaker 1: I don't think they know right now. I mean, I

513
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Speaker 1: don't think they want to cut Jonathan Ward. But if

514
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Speaker 1: I had a guess right now, I don't think they

515
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Speaker 1: want to cut Ingram either, right think about it. Though,

516
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Speaker 1: Kanta Ingram was the nineteenth running back drafted. Yeah, so

517
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Speaker 1: what kind of market value would he have? Is anybody

518
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Speaker 1: automatically willing to put him on a fifty three man

519
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Speaker 1: as a rookie. And that's a good point. So if

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Speaker 1: you're thinking in terms of who would be the easiest

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Speaker 1: to get to the practice squad. But this is also

522
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Speaker 1: as much as you like Ingram, that might still be

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Speaker 1: the case. This is also a team though that kept

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Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin a seventh round pick and probably more than

525
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: nineteen running backs were picked before him. They kept him

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Speaker 1: on the active roster all season because they were afraid

527
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Speaker 1: if they cut him, somebody was going to take him. Honestly, Danny, I,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would say, you know, Benjamin, because of

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Speaker 1: his lack of special team's ability, he might be the

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Speaker 1: most susceptible. That'd be my guests right now, just based

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Speaker 1: on special teams, because you're one two punch of running

532
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Speaker 1: back is going to be James Connor and Daryl Williams.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think? But but do you think that

534
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Speaker 1: if you are is Jonathan Yesterday, clip Kingsbury talked to

535
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Speaker 1: answer Darren's question real quick and talked about how those

536
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Speaker 1: two running backs have played big snaps in big games.

537
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Speaker 1: I think he likes the proven factor of those two guys.

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Speaker 1: So if it's between Jonathan Warden Eno Benjamin. Not even

539
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Speaker 1: talking about special teams, I'm talking about game play on offense,

540
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: you would put Jonathan Ward in over Eno Benjamin because

541
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Speaker 1: I think that's the difference there. I think they put

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Speaker 1: Eno playing over Jonathan Ward eight or nine out of

543
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Speaker 1: ten times. It's Jonathan Ward's special team's ability that really

544
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Speaker 1: keeps him here. That's my point that Eno Benjamin would

545
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Speaker 1: be the most susceptible. He could be the one on

546
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Speaker 1: the outside looking in because that lack of special teams. Honestly,

547
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Speaker 1: when you're trying to construct a roster and Jeff Rogers

548
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Speaker 1: in there, is Jeff Rogers going to bad for Jonathan Ward,

549
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Speaker 1: I'd say, heck, yeah, okay, Keyanta Ingram. From talking to

550
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Speaker 1: personnel people on the sideline, he's been really good on

551
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: teams so far, even in coverage. He said he doesn't

552
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: think he's been that good when we talked to him,

553
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: but he said he loves being physical and they do.

554
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: Like you know, and then just his rookie status, his

555
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Speaker 1: contract status, and the fact that you know, Benjamin is

556
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Speaker 1: going to be a free agent at the end of

557
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Speaker 1: this year. So yeah, I mean I understand all that,

558
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: and who knows that it would be an upset at

559
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Speaker 1: this point if Eno wasn't on this team. But that's

560
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Speaker 1: what makes us intrigue is you could have a valid

561
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Speaker 1: argument for he one of those three guys making or

562
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Speaker 1: being cut from this team. And so that's probably the

563
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: position group you're watching the most at this point. Yeah,

564
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: the back end of the receiver room is intriguing. And

565
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that Greg Dorge press conference to

566
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: start this week, that was something? Was it not listening

567
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: to Greg Doorge sayd he was cut five times his

568
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: first two years, three times his rookie year and the

569
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Speaker 1: fact that he's still around and now gonna, I mean,

570
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Speaker 1: come on, Greg Dorge has a spot in this team,

571
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you say, Danny? I do? Yeah, I think he does.

572
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Speaker 1: For sure. He's been day to day with that knee injury,

573
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Speaker 1: but he practiced on Tuesday. So but I think he

574
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: has looked good and consistent in training camp. And now

575
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: he's not the big body that Aj Green, Antoine Wesley

576
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins are, but I think that he has looked

577
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Speaker 1: good in practice. He's one of those guys and I'm

578
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Speaker 1: gonna do it again with Antonio Hamilton. I'm gonna site

579
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Speaker 1: it to the young Punk's accoustic KALVISI see that guy

580
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: right there, he was cut five times. Did he ever

581
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Speaker 1: give up? No, he didn't quit. It's my dad's speech,

582
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, the inspirational speech. How about Antonio Hamilton's what

583
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: he told the media. He walked on at a small college,

584
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Speaker 1: transferred to South Carolina State, walked on there, earned a

585
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Speaker 1: half scholarship by his senior year when undrafted, been fighting

586
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Speaker 1: to make an NFL roster. And now, honestly, if you

587
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Speaker 1: made me draw up a depth chart, I think he's

588
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: your number two corner behind Byron Murphy. I think he

589
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: is ahead of Marko Wilson. I don't want to get

590
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: because we do need to talk about Antonio Hamilton's. But

591
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: but you do realize when we talk about that Greg

592
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: Dortch's and the Antonio Hamilton's or how Tom Brady was

593
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Speaker 1: a sixth round pick, you realize that we're talking about

594
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: them because they're they're the unicorns. They're the outliers for

595
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: the thousands and millions that got cut five times because

596
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Speaker 1: they're just not good enough. I just thought I mentioned

597
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Speaker 1: that you know what, speaking sorry, speaking of never giving up,

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Speaker 1: I just got to say, Paul Paul's hot take from

599
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: months ago that you know, Benjamin was getting all this praise.

600
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: They were trying to pump him up for a trade.

601
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: Maybe it might still be in the card. So Paul

602
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: listened to Antonio, listen to Greg Dortch. Your hot takes

603
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: might actually come true one day. I haven't forgotten about

604
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: that one. That's a good point. I thought, when you

605
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Speaker 1: where you're going, when you're saying never giving up, I

606
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: thought you're going to talk about your Trey McBride interview.

607
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Speaker 1: But oh, Darren, why would you call him out like that?

608
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Speaker 1: No comment? I think going back to the original point,

609
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton, I think has looked really good. I thought

610
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Speaker 1: he looked good in the preseason game, and he's definitely

611
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: looked good in practice. And when you look at I

612
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: think Josh Jackson has looked pretty good in practice, and

613
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Speaker 1: I thought he looked pretty decent in the games. It's

614
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback situations really easy. And Christian Matthew. Yeah right,

615
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Speaker 1: But that's a good problem because in terms of number

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Speaker 1: and death is it it's a little different than running. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you can you can keep all that you're talking about? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: compared to running backs, I thought you meant. I thought

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Speaker 1: you meant like we've now proven that they don't need

620
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Speaker 1: help at cornerback, which I don't know if as well

621
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Speaker 1: as all that's gone, I still don't know if we're there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to tell Antonio Hamilton that

623
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Speaker 1: because he made it very clear that he thinks somebody

624
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Speaker 1: saying what I'm just saying is full of In fact,

625
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: you asked Antonio Hamilton that in a roundabout way, just

626
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Speaker 1: to well, I'm trying not to get too many, you know,

627
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: slings in air that the outsiders aren't exactly bullish on

628
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: the caliber of the Cardinals cornerback room. And he sort

629
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Speaker 1: of paused, and then he said, well, look, and I'm

630
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: quoting him loosely. He said, if any of those people

631
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Speaker 1: think we're all slouches in that room, they got another

632
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: thing coming. I did think that was that was a

633
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Speaker 1: good line. It was a great line. And I my

634
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: phone at that point was hosing me and I couldn't

635
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Speaker 1: tweet it out, but it was a great quote. It

636
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: was something like that. And so and you know what

637
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: with Christian Matthew you need my I phone, Paul with

638
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: Christian with Christian Matthew, I'm just there's a lot of

639
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: things I need. We know what we need another podcast

640
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: for all the things I'm gonna list around here. He

641
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of Marco Wilson last year.

642
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: We'll bet, we'll bet. I'm not saying he's bidden to

643
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: be a starter or anything like Marco Wilson was, but

644
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: there was something Christian Kirk told us on a big

645
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Red Rage last year, and that if you want to

646
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: judge a cornerback, don't necessarily look at his wins, look

647
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: at his losses. Yeah, when he's beat how badly he

648
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: is he beaten. And they knew Marco Wilson could play

649
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: last year because when he was beaten, he wasn't beaten

650
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: by much. Yeah, he wasn't torched, and he wasn't absolutely destroyed,

651
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: and guys weren't running free with huge separation. And so

652
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: that's the same thing with Christian Matthew. When you keep

653
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: your eye on him, he's right there within range, and

654
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: he's on the hip of most receivers. He had a

655
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: couple of pass breakups in the preseason game, albeit against

656
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: the lesser receivers. It wasn't the big three for the

657
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Bengals out there. I get it. But even in camp

658
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: against some of the Cardinals starting receivers, he's faired pretty well.

659
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I keep thinking when you mentioned barely beating I keep

660
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: thinking of that Marco play last year when Christian or

661
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: a Cooper Cup caught the touchdown in the corner of

662
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: the money game, and I'm like, I don't think Marco

663
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: Wilson could get any closer to the player or the

664
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: ball without getting it. But I think of how Marco

665
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Wilson was also beaten by O. B. J. Right, not

666
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: by a lot, just enough to make the catch, which

667
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: is life in the NFL. But then think of how

668
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: bad Obj, before he got hurt in the Super Bowl

669
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: was making the Bengals secondary look. Think about think of

670
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: how bad Cooper Cup made basically every other corner in

671
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: the league look last year in this triple crown or receiver.

672
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: What I do love about Christian Matthew and I happened

673
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: to pass him in the bowels of the stadium today

674
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: when I was walking one when he was walking the others.

675
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: You forget how tall he is, I mean, he's he's tall,

676
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: and if you could get a tall cornerback that would

677
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: just be wonderful. Look, I think we're to that point,

678
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: and obviously if they were really bad, we'd be able

679
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: to tell. But I think we're to that point in

680
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: camp where it's like it's easy to fall in with

681
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: the rose colored glasses, like, oh, you know, maybe they

682
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: do have this great cornerback room, or maybe it's an

683
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: underrated cornerback room. And I do know that there's a

684
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: lot of people in the personnel department that actually like

685
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of their young guys and they think they

686
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: might be a little bit underrated in terms of who

687
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: they have a corner But we're not going to know

688
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: until we know. And unfortunately, that's going to come against

689
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: maybe one of the best passing off fights in the league. Well,

690
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: and I will say this, Paul preseason was waxing effusive

691
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: about the corners, and somebody who knows a lot more

692
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: football than years truly pointed out, Hey, Paul, think of

693
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks they've been going against. Yeah, well, think of

694
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the Bengals game they went against. For

695
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: the most part, in Cardinals camp, they have not gone

696
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: against Kyler Murray or Colt McCoy. That's a good point.

697
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: So can you get a true read yet on some

698
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: of those? I hate to say it, but yeah, again

699
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, though, I think that's every player

700
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: and every preseason. You can only get so much from

701
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: these training camp practices. And it's not like any of

702
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: those big quarterbacks or you know, not even just the quarterbacks,

703
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: those big star starting players on any team is ever

704
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: playing preseason games. So while I agree with you, I

705
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: don't think that's just to assess the cornerbacks this year.

706
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: I think that's literally every every position, every preseason. All right,

707
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: So the two of you pronounce and declare the cornerback

708
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: room regular season ready, ready to go. Both. That's good. Now,

709
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: if you're gonna put words where our mouth, it could

710
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: have been worse. So okay, the next and the interests

711
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: of a segue, I'm just going to summarize and move

712
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: on accordingly. The next big question mark obviously in the

713
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Speaker 1: defense pass rush, and after Victor d mucage had a

714
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: couple of sacks and Dennis Gardeck looked good. Um, you're

715
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: feeling good about that too, Danny, Are you ready to

716
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: stamp the seal of approval on the edge guys, I

717
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: am I'm not. I don't think I'll feel ready until

718
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: we have no choice. It's you just have. Even those

719
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: veterans Dennis Gardek, Dvon Kannard, they don't have a lot

720
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: of experience with that consistent high snap count game after

721
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: game after game. They're gonna have to be relied on

722
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: very differently than they have up until this point here

723
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: in Arizona. And with those rookies Cam Thomas, my J. Sanders,

724
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: you're not going to know until a couple weeks into

725
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: the season when they really understand the speed of the game.

726
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: So right now, while you have is Marcus Golden, who

727
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: we have not actually you don't have who we have

728
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: not seen practice and I don't have account almost two weeks.

729
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: I think it's been more than two weeks, maybe dealing

730
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: with a toe. So no, I I am not feeling

731
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: good about the pass rush situation at all. Um, Darren,

732
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: didn't you ask the head coach today about Marcus gold Yes,

733
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: and what was the answer? Paraphrasing, but I would I

734
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: believe he said something along the lines of we feel

735
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: like he's going to be okay and he'll be ready

736
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: to go okay. All right, there you go, um, and look,

737
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: he's the one proven guy on the edge. So if

738
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: he needs all of August sort of like a JJ

739
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: Watt last year, and he's ready to go in week one,

740
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: who cares? Okay, great, but they do need to figure

741
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: out the other guys. He's thirty one, he's been around

742
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: almost a decade. Come on, you know. The bigger questions

743
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: for the interest is discussion. Take camp off and say

744
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: I've been around for two decades. And but but Darren,

745
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: you know who would wear the hood while we're on

746
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: the air. Here in the end, Chilian, here's now. Although

747
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: it's chilly, you have a jacket, but you don't have

748
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: it all on my legs. It's on my lap. You

749
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: missed yesterday when I did Cover two with the hoodie

750
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: and I stood up. It was way colder yesterday. Okay,

751
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: I just thought I mentioned that because almost is going

752
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: to break out the little video of me dancing around

753
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: the time laps. That's great. Yeah, yeah, this it's captioned

754
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: this which one is the Arizona native with the ultra

755
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: thin blood and U that's Darren right there in the

756
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: time laps. Looks like he's in line the DMB, just

757
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: standing there. Okay, I get you. No, Paul, I I

758
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: do not feel good about the pass rush. Such a

759
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: really okay, Why why do you disagree? No, I don't

760
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: necessarily disagree. I just um, you know, Victor Demo Cage

761
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: I think is intriguing. Yes, I think he's done something

762
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: that rarely ever happens. If you talk to some of

763
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: the people who watch these players day in and day out,

764
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: he's actually improved his get off, his explosion. He's redefined

765
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: his body. I'm told he's not nearly as boxy, if

766
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: that makes sense as a year ago. He's he's slimmed down,

767
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: he's lost some weight, he did some different sort of

768
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: weight training to be more explosive, to be faster off

769
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: the edge. I asked him that question of the press

770
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: conference to start this week, and he agreed. He definitely

771
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: feels faster. He can see it on film. According to

772
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: Victor Dimukeje that he's getting off and getting that edge quicker.

773
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, if he's added that to

774
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: his game, the rest of his game was there. He's

775
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: very stout at the point of attack, he can set

776
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: an edge, He's very strong, and so it was intriguing.

777
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: One of the old lineman. Real Quick described him as

778
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: sort of a Marcus Golden Light, sort of that type

779
00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: of said that when he got drafted. Intriguing position group.

780
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck has had a really great camp, lots of

781
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: people to root for, lots of good dudes. But this,

782
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: to me is a baptism by fi. What is it?

783
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: Baptism by fire? I feel like we're not going to

784
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: know what this team has until we not even just

785
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: week one, but a couple of weeks into the season,

786
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: and that that's just at this point I think it

787
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: it is what it is for at least the first

788
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: few weeks, until rosters really start to settle down. It's

789
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: fascinating talk about a baptism by fire in your first

790
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: game is against Patrick Mahomes. Yikes, Yeah, don't say fire.

791
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Some bikes. Darren wants a fire to warm his hands

792
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: around right now, So try not to say fire. Maybe

793
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals plan here. Maybe I just like the look

794
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: pole and if we talked of answer wearing a buckett indoors,

795
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: it's stylish. Maybe if we had next time we advanced

796
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Joseph in front the podium, we need to ask him

797
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: this question. Tell me if it's a valid question before

798
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: I embarrass myself in front of my colleagues. Are you

799
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: left handed? Absolutely? Yes, indeed yes, I did I know

800
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Speaker 1: that despite my Italian grandfather telling my mother to tie

801
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: my left hand behind my back right, uh. She she

802
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: never cave to my Italian grandfather. I noticed that. Here's

803
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: the deal, fine, motor skills and so forth, left hand

804
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: power stuff, right hand on the bullpen fire gas with

805
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: the right hand. Yeah, but if you were lefty, you

806
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: could have made it to the majors. Ping pong is

807
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: sort in between. I can play with either hand because

808
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: it's in between. It's not really it's not really power,

809
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily fine, you know, motor skills. It's in between.

810
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: So that's how that works. Wow, that was a great

811
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: little sidebar. I'm sorry, please continue. I don't even remember

812
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. So my point was Marcus Golden

813
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: and and the answer is multiple choice. Yeah, the answer

814
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: I guess would be all the above. A. Dennis Gardek, B.

815
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: Devon Kannard, see Victor de Moncage, D my J. Sanders,

816
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not ready to quite include Cam Thomas in

817
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: there yet. But if you take a through D the

818
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: answer is actually E all the above. That's your bookend

819
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: with Marcus Golden, and that's the Cardinal's competitive advantage because

820
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: that tackle. Now it's to deal with the pit bull

821
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: that is Dennis Gardeck, the long, lean type guy like

822
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Amy J. Sanders. Wait a minute, here comes a victor

823
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: DMOKG who's a total It's like the changeup versus a slider,

824
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: versus the curveball versus the fastball. If you're a pitcher,

825
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: you just keep changing it up on the tackle. And

826
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: maybe that's the route that Cardinals go at that position.

827
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that's the case. The Cardinals do not have

828
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: an easy schedule, especially when you look at a lot

829
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: of the offensive lineman that they will be facing, and

830
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: I think that's something to consider as well. They're a

831
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: lot consider how effective they're going to be. Exactly a

832
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: lot of these offensive linemen that they're facing are top

833
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: notch veterans who have seen a lot. So I'm I'm

834
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: not trying to be a negative Nancy. I'm just saying,

835
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: sure you're not. You're just casting a critical eye on

836
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: the situation. And Danny, you don't need to apologize for that.

837
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't. I didn't apologize I just said, I'm

838
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: not trying to be negative. No, that's like saying I

839
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: don't want this to be negative criticism. Well, yeative, it

840
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: can be constructive. I mean it's next, there's constructive criticism.

841
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: Constructive criticism is still negative. It's feedback. Constructive criticism is

842
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: just feedback, is what it is. I've heard somebody use

843
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: positive criticism two or three times since great training camp open.

844
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm like that there is no such thing. Okay, So

845
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: all right, what I'm getting here because the two of

846
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: your a waffling, unlike the cornerback room that's been declared

847
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: regular season ready, you're not willing to say the same

848
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: about the edge group. Correct. Okay, all right, so you

849
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: have that. Can we feel better about defensive line because

850
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: JJ wat and Zach Allen, who are not going to

851
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: see a preseason snap I predict they will not. They're

852
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: your starters. And then there's some really good competition behind

853
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: those guys, whether it's a Rashaun Lawrence who was in

854
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: the backfield a couple of times in Cincinnati. Lecky Foe

855
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: two described recently by Zach Allen is three hundred pounds

856
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: of Torso that was it was a great one that

857
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: was solid. I enjoyed that one. And then you have

858
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who were really scrapping veterans to

859
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: make this roster, who'd have showed up pretty well in

860
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: a Christian Ringo and an Antoine woods Manny Jones who

861
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: saw Manny Jones coming alive in that preseason game. That's intriguing.

862
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be enough to make the final

863
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: fifty three. I thought Jonathan Ledbetter played pretty well. Led

864
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: absolutely Ledbetter did, and uh that's a lot of defensive

865
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: labman there may or may not have been at the

866
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: bottom of what was described as a six car pile

867
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: up in camp, but uh so he's number ninety three

868
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: on your roster. So I'm feeling a little bit better

869
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: about defensive tackle because remember, coming into camp, we're all wondering, now,

870
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: is there going to be a time time sign at corner,

871
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: at edge rusher, and maybe d tackle. Here's the thing

872
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: we've got to I think we've got to make a

873
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: decision one way or the other. Are we gonna go

874
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: with the Drew Stanton who have they played a corner

875
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: quarterback kind of are you mate for the whole defense?

876
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: Or are we gonna we can't praise the defensive line

877
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: and then say we're not sure about the pass rush,

878
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: or we can't say the cornerback needs somebody. But you know,

879
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: I feel like it's all got to be all all

880
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: or nothing because they're they're playing all the same offensive players. Danny.

881
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue the point I've made of

882
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: it's every player that's going up against these non starters,

883
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: So you want them to look great, and that's what

884
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: you expect because they're also going up against non starters,

885
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: So that's the level of play you want them to

886
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: be at better than the alternative. I don't think you know,

887
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: and any of these younger players, whether that's individually or

888
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: how they work as a group, truly until you get

889
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: to the regular season. Okay, so what is different about

890
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: this preseason than preseason's pasted? Danny's here next week next

891
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: week at Tennessee. Yeah, now you're going to see a

892
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Ledbetter, Right, any of these guys against against the

893
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Titans again, starters can start. I mean, so really, this

894
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: is all just the build up in the preamble to

895
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: get to the final decision. The final episode of this

896
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: reality original sports reality TV show known as training camp

897
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: as chronicled on Hard Knocks as you're the Lions Cardinals

898
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. But this will

899
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: all come to fruition in Tennessee. Two big time practices

900
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: next Wednesday and Thursday, and then you're going to see

901
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who are necessarily maybe you know,

902
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna bring it to the intensity level against their own teammates,

903
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: but against the Titans, they better are. Also they're going

904
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: to be embarrassed. Yeah, and the coaches are gonna be

905
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: there sitting there waiting to make final decisions because basically

906
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: a lot of Nobodi's are going to play in the

907
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: final preseason game. Well, and that's that's the big thing

908
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: for me for this Tennessee week because this is essentially

909
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: we talked earlier about whether guys should play and whether

910
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Kyler should play in the preseason. This is it. This

911
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: is instead of playing in a preseason game these two

912
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: practices against the Titans, this is their preseason game as

913
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: it were. It's gonna be a lot more controlled. Obviously

914
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be live tackling, but this is essentially

915
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: what it's. You're going against another team, You're gonna go

916
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: against their ones probably on some snaps and you are

917
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: this is the best test Kyler Murray, for instance, is

918
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: going to get in the preseason or Hollywood Brown or

919
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons or whatever I mean I got. I hope

920
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: we can talk about it and it's not closed to

921
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: the media. Well, you know, I made the mistake of

922
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: just presuming it was going to be open because other

923
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: times we've done joint practices, they have been funded. The

924
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: Eagles have one open practice this year, the Titans have two. Right,

925
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: So is there any chance the Titans two open practices

926
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: to be the two these are going to be closed?

927
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: It's the question It becomes whether we're going to be

928
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: able to say anything as media members. But they're already

929
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: I already know they're not open to the public. Well

930
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. As a media, can we report

931
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: That's because what teams have done now is basically, if

932
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: it's not open to the public, then they figure then

933
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: we don't have to let the media report on anything.

934
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: When it's open to the public, they would probably rather

935
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: not have the media report anything. But it's kind of

936
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: foolish when you've got you know, five thousand people there

937
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: with camera phones being able to do whatever they want.

938
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: So that means instead of going to practice, Paul, you

939
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: can just hang out on Broadway all day. Yeah, that's good.

940
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'll just join one of the bachelorette parties.

941
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: There's like dozens of minuting given time there's a bachelotte

942
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: party on a Tuesday morning that day. I was just

943
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: going to ask a lot of a lot of fun.

944
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Does anybody is anybody shocked that Danny has been to

945
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: a bachelorette party in Nashville? But it's one out of four?

946
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: It was not the bride. I I didn't say you

947
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: were the bride. It was my decision. I'm just saying,

948
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: I I it's all like I chose to go to

949
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: Nashville for you have some strict friends that I'm going

950
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: to tell you to be here, and if you don't

951
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: show up, what you go to jail? No, But like

952
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: the bride picks the location, it's not like I chose

953
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: nash Understand, It's not like you turn it down. I'm

954
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: just saying, I mean, at this point, is Nashville better

955
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: known for country music or bachelotte parties? Honestly, that's a thing.

956
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question, very good question. And

957
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: let me tell you something after going to there, going

958
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: there last year for the road trip and to open

959
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: the season. Like, I've been to Nashville a handful of

960
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: times on road trips, and Broadway always used to be

961
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: kind of cool. But Broadway was still a street. We

962
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: go there last year. You can't even drive on Broadway anymore.

963
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: They've closed it down, so everybody can walk in it,

964
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: and it's way bigger and it's it's fun. People can

965
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: get in trouble. Yeah, but there's there's at least two

966
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: or three bars on that strip that doesn't play country music.

967
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: I've been in find me there, Yeah, I've been in

968
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: those two. I'm going to walk up later than I

969
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: should or earlier, depending on you know how you're at

970
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: the clock. But I'm gonna walk up and down looking

971
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: for the next Chris Stapleton. I saw a documentary on

972
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: him recently, and he said he just went to Nashville

973
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: and he went on the corner and just started playing

974
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: his guitar and singing whatever songs he had written at

975
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: that point. He made forty dollars in one day. Oh,

976
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: come on, I was right. No, he's a modern day

977
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: country music star. Twenty twenty two. I thought that was

978
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Ross Brooks. You guys have a lot to learn before

979
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: you go to Nashville. My goodness. In fact, you know what,

980
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: your travel pieces have been revoked for that comment, because

981
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: thou shalt not be allowed to travel to Nashville if

982
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: you if you're gonna, you know, spew stuff like that

983
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: nash Vegas. Baby, do you have cowboy boots? No? I don't.

984
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Silicon Valley. I definitely don't

985
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: have cowboy boots. No. And if I do, I'm a

986
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: complete fraud. Okay, there's absolutely no no chance whatsoever. So anyway,

987
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: my point was that a Manny Jones going in joint

988
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: practice against a Titan starting offensive lineman, if he fares well, okay,

989
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: that can be a much better barometer of whether he

990
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: belongs on the fifty three the true blowing up the

991
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: Bengals third string, right, I would agree that. But but

992
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: at the same time, too, aren't we I mean, we're

993
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: till the point too, are we any of us sitting

994
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: in here going for the fifty three man roster? They

995
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: don't know who fifty one of them are already, or

996
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: if they're down to fifty five we're talking about the

997
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: decisions we were talking about earlier, Like it could be Ward,

998
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: it could be Ingram, or it could be Eno. But

999
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's I don't know. And as much as

1000
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: it probably sounds like I'm dogging on these preseason games,

1001
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: I do think that's where they play an important role.

1002
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: It's maybe not necessarily about the players you're going against,

1003
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: but those younger not even just rookies, but those younger

1004
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: or newer players on your team picking up schemes and

1005
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: just under you know, going through the fundamentals of the

1006
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: game and how the offense or defense has called here.

1007
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: And so I think if you get down you know

1008
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: you're fifty one, you got to look at those last

1009
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: two spots. That's where preseason games really play a big

1010
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: role in That is not necessarily of how well you

1011
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: played going up against their four string wide receiver, but

1012
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: you know, how well were you understanding the scheme and

1013
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time and understanding

1014
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: your role. So you're totally on board. Then Danny with

1015
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens twenty one game preseason win streak, is that

1016
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Sure, Paul, that is a curious thing,

1017
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean, do they really value that? Do

1018
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: do they really value that? I don't. Obviously they do

1019
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: to some degree. I don't. I don't know. I'd have

1020
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: to go back. But what does that really mean. I

1021
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know if they've necessarily played I think they've lucked

1022
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: into being so far. Do I think John Harbos sits

1023
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: back and says I love having this a winning streak. No? Do.

1024
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: I think there's a small part of them that loves

1025
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: the fact that keeps coming up. I'm sure you're sure

1026
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt his feelings. I think the bigger deal

1027
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: forget the twenty one game Ravens preseason win streak. Obviously

1028
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: it's the black helmets. Oh they're so sleek, you like them.

1029
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: They're black, but then when they're up close, when they

1030
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: hit the light differently, there's like a hint of red

1031
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: and they've got like a little shine to it. It's

1032
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: not like I know from Afar and video or pictures

1033
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: people might be seeing online it might look like the

1034
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: plane black Falcon's helmet, and it is so far from

1035
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: that when you get to see it up close in person.

1036
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: I know that Asycarnels dot Com has a video. Kyler

1037
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: Murray JJ Watt. We have a couple of players that

1038
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: look at the helmet for the first time when you

1039
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: get to see it's really close up and you really

1040
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: get to see the details of the helmet. I really

1041
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: like them. I think they're sleek. I mean, Danny did

1042
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: tell me earlier that she had tried to get one

1043
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: of those and wear that instead of the bucket hat,

1044
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't give her one. I think I would

1045
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: look good in that with I would wear that the

1046
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: visor though, oh, I could see that. Yeah. Can you

1047
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: take the bucket at into the equipment guys and have

1048
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: them give you a paint job akin to the black helmet?

1049
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: Can you do that? You know the same time you

1050
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: don't like the white bucket hat you guys were such hat. Well, no,

1051
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: you need the alternate bucket at to complete I like

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Speaker 1: that idea, Paula. See, I can't get my will versus

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Speaker 1: everybody T shirt made or the other unnamed rookie offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman that was taken in the seventh round against everybody

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Speaker 1: that one made, either. But maybe in terms of merch

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Speaker 1: we can get an alternate bucket at and you could

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Speaker 1: you could wear that free d hop shirt that so

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Speaker 1: many of his teammates were wearing. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: All the I Andy shirts are in some thorough world country.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Isaiah, that's right, that's right where you know. I

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Speaker 1: haven't been beating set drum nearly enough. Paul's an idea, man,

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Speaker 1: one time. One idea is going to stick. See Manna's

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Speaker 1: to Here's the thing. I mean, the Isaiah obviously can't

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Speaker 1: take off until he gets game reps. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: Isaiah come a week one against Kansas. You can't wait,

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Speaker 1: you know. That's That's that's when it'll really get traction.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's annoying is I don't like it, but I

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Speaker 1: know it's going to stick on this podcast. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: like no, no, I it totally is. I try to

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Speaker 1: distance myself from my Andy, but guys like Darren keep

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Speaker 1: bringing it up. And that's what happens to us. Where

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Speaker 1: are the ones are going to keep bringing up? Heah.

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Speaker 1: So if you get an alternate bucket hat, I am

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Speaker 1: totally tweeting that. So Danie, I'll have an alternate bucket

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Speaker 1: hat before she watches the See if you get an

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Speaker 1: alternate bucket hat, then all the responses of the tweet

1077
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Speaker 1: are gonna be like, when are you getting an alternate

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Speaker 1: Danny uniform? And then a good point, when are you

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Speaker 1: getting near? Okay, all right, well, I am curious to

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Speaker 1: see how the TV lights, the bright lights hit the

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Speaker 1: helmet and how it looks on national TV. And because

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Speaker 1: I you know, ideally that's where you can really it's

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Speaker 1: sort of like, because I know you guys are all

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Speaker 1: about the car auctions that every January in Scottsdale that

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Speaker 1: are televised, Well, you know, boom with the bright lights

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Speaker 1: and the cameras they hit the paint job and it's

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Speaker 1: going across the block. That's when you can really appreciate

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00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: the paint job. That's true, as opposed to parking in

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Speaker 1: someone's garage and dim lighting the trace McSorley Revenge Game.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Sam Huff Revenge Game video. It's editor extra

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Speaker 1: and there, that's right. That's right. There's one quarterback in

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Speaker 1: this roster who has thrown an NFL touchdown pass to

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown. His name is Tracy McSorley, the former Ravens

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Speaker 1: quarterback through a seventy yard well basically it was a

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Speaker 1: twenty yard pass. Hollywood caught it and he gone. He

1096
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Speaker 1: went fifty yards to the house. So, uh, there you going,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Tracey McSorley to come full circle. He

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Speaker 1: certainly wasn't sloppy. He was out there. It looked like

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Speaker 1: he had a pretty good command. I thought you were

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Speaker 1: gonna say he wasn't in the Godfather, right he led? Look,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't a Sonny. He was a Michael. He

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Speaker 1: led a nine play seventy nine yard drive in three

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Speaker 1: fifty two. He was executing all the way down the

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Speaker 1: field instead of going for an eighty yard bomb. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest. When you opened this podcast and you said

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Speaker 1: Michael first, all I could think of was Michael Bidwell,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, where's he going with this? I thought,

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Speaker 1: Michael Scott. By the by the way, has anyone gotten

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Speaker 1: a ride cross town in the in the helicopter yet?

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Speaker 1: Is that that would be good? That's not me me either.

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Speaker 1: So there you. Uh, that'll do it, I guess um.

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Speaker 1: And our podcast next week we'll have to do it

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Speaker 1: from Tennessee. We'll be in Tennessee probably on Wednesday. Wednesday

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee, I think we're gonna be traveling Tuesday, so

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Speaker 1: maybe we should do it from one of those what

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Speaker 1: do they call though, Danny, you're on one. What are

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Speaker 1: those those mobile party buses that go around Lower Broadway?

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Speaker 1: What do you call those things? We'll do it. We

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Speaker 1: should do a podcast on the back of one of those.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to tell it was not a party bus.

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Speaker 1: And if I tell you guys what it was, you

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Speaker 1: you're just only at this point rue. I was not

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Speaker 1: the maid of honor, so I did not book a

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Speaker 1: single thing in this bachelotte party. It is a kind

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Speaker 1: where it's basically an open tractor, oh, with lots of alcohol.

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Speaker 1: It's an open tractor that you're standing on in the

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Speaker 1: back and someone's driving in the front. I didn't say

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Speaker 1: you were driving it, so it was a party? John

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Speaker 1: Deer is that essentially it was pretty close? All right?

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Speaker 1: There you go. That'll do it. Cards Camp Edition The

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