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Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi everybody, and welcome into

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday Morning Podcast. One of my favorite people, Dave

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Speaker 1: Wantstat I bring them on every couple of months. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about Justin Field's, Matt Naggie, Ryan Pace,

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Speaker 1: the entire Bearers organization, but I want to start with this.

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Speaker 1: For about ten minutes, everybody's gotten opinion on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things I've realized because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be Howard Cosell when I was eight years old,

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Speaker 1: So I've been really opinionated since i was seven, eight

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Speaker 1: nine years old, and because of that, I've gotten pushback, blowback,

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Speaker 1: gotten to arguments, been a villain in many parties i've

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Speaker 1: been at. I am comfortable with that. I am okay

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Speaker 1: with athletes talking about politics and non sports ventures being activists,

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Speaker 1: but just no going in You're going to get the smoke.

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Speaker 1: And even in my career as a sports caster in

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Speaker 1: the Opinion Space. About seventy five percent of the people

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Speaker 1: that do it don't like the smoke, and they soften

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Speaker 1: up their views on the air. Rachel Maddow can handle

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Speaker 1: the smoke. Tucker Carlson can handle the smoke. Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: can handle the smoke. Bernie Sanders can handle the smoke.

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Speaker 1: You know who can't Lebron James, who said I hated

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Speaker 1: being a villain when he went to Miami, Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: who in the last year has talked less about politics,

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Speaker 1: and you know who else doesn't like to smoke. Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you and I think about him

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Speaker 1: being vaccinated or not. That's his decision. But Aaron rambling

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Speaker 1: for eighteen minutes on Pat McAfee's YouTube page on his show,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, But he didn't have the self awareness to

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Speaker 1: realize he's always been thin skinned, he's always been sensitive.

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Speaker 1: And you ramble for eighteen minutes on something that's not

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Speaker 1: about sports, and you're going to get the smoke. And

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Speaker 1: then Aaron finally yesterday said I'm not an advocate, I'm

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Speaker 1: not an activist. I'm an athlete. I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: back to plan ball again. I am for the athlete

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Speaker 1: to have an opinion. But we live in an incredibly

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Speaker 1: polarized nation, and once you move into politics, vaccines, legislation,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get the shit kicked out of you.

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Speaker 1: You have to have the self awareness to know, do

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Speaker 1: I have a chin? Aaron's great, he doesn't have a chin.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's great, he doesn't have a chin. Lebron's got

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Speaker 1: a stronger chin, but not a great chin. That's the

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Speaker 1: reality of it. It doesn't matter what you and I think.

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Speaker 1: What Aaron told you yesterday on the McAfee show is

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Speaker 1: I don't like this. I don't like this at all.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to playing football. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was funny that OBJ once he was no longer

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Speaker 1: remember the Cleveland Browns. The first team he mentioned he

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Speaker 1: wanted to play for was the Seattle Seahawks, and then

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Speaker 1: yesterday it was reported he wants to now play for

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Speaker 1: the Packers. Well, isn't that interesting Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: almost every receiver in the league wants to play with them,

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Speaker 1: and I want to be adopted by Elon Musk. That's

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Speaker 1: not really the way it works, ob J, You're really

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Speaker 1: not understanding how the game works. They'll get a hold

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Speaker 1: of your agent. You won't decide where you land. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's a distinction here. Carmelo Anthony is a

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Speaker 1: great example. It took Carmelo to get over himself for

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Speaker 1: There was an incident in the NBA that's getting a

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Speaker 1: as stiff for Morris as it is for Yoki. I mean,

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Speaker 1: any way defending Yokich. He's got to be the bigger man.

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Speaker 1: that as a strategy. Send our scrub after their star,

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Speaker 1: You know, will this kid be able to take the

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Speaker 1: you what I liked. They rolled up. You mentioned Dad

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard, Dave. Yeah, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: coach it out of him. The problem was, and I

426
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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, if you look at the history

427
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Speaker 1: of this kid, Marsh, he was with the Pittsburgh Stores

428
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Speaker 1: and training camp. So he was looking over to their bench.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say anything, but he was looking over there,

430
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Speaker 1: and he was sending a message there. I wasn't good

431
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Speaker 1: enough to make plays in your mind, but here I

432
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Speaker 1: am making plays. I don't have any question that that

433
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Speaker 1: was the message without saying a word that he was

434
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Speaker 1: trying to send and he's looking at their bench. Then

435
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Speaker 1: that's you know, I don't know if that's tawny or not.

436
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Speaker 1: If he didn't say a word he says he didn't,

437
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, probably not, but make the play, do your

438
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Speaker 1: karate kick, and then get off the field. You know,

439
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: it's I didn't think he needed to kind of stare

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Speaker 1: down the bench. I really didn't. So I was you know,

441
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: obviously I was a Bears fan on that when trying

442
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: to be but he makes new your celebration an't get off.

443
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: But it's tough. You know. The other thing too, And

444
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Speaker 1: I talked this morning about Michael Jordans. I remember, you know,

445
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: and I had a good relationship with Phil Jackson when

446
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: I was coaching the Bears and he was at the

447
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: balls and we would everybody would talk about if they

448
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: needed a quick couple points, tell him, give Michael the

449
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: ball and just tell him to drive, drive down the

450
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Speaker 1: middle and take a shot, because whether anybody touches him

451
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: or not, he's gonna get called for a file because

452
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna protect Michael Jordan's. You know, if

453
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: you even breathe on him, you're getting called for a file.

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Speaker 1: And I'm watching that game last night and I see

455
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: Ben get pushed and he gets personal file and justin fields,

456
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Speaker 1: he's looking for his mouthpiece. He's getting his mouthpiece, he's

457
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: getting his mouthpiece knocked out. But one time it looked

458
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: like he's feeling on the grass drop and there's no flag,

459
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: so you know, and the question was asked me, how

460
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Speaker 1: long does it take a player before he gaged the

461
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: respected officials. It shouldn't be that way, but unfortunately it is.

462
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: You know, go ahead and take a shot at Tom

463
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: Brady and see how many yellow flies. Good luck, good luck.

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00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: That is really funny. Um. We're halfway through the season

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Speaker 1: and I, um, today in my show, I gave out

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Speaker 1: some you know, midway point awards, and I gave my

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Speaker 1: I gave my Coach of the Year to Cliff Kingsbury.

468
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: Rabel was second. And I said, here's the thing that

469
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Speaker 1: matters to me. They brought on some big money, they

470
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Speaker 1: brought on some playmakers. Uh, you know JJ Watt. That's

471
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: that's that's a player. That's he's a star in this league.

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00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: You're in the toughest division and he's won a game

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Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback on the road. And I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: I know kinder Murray's great, but you know what was

475
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Speaker 1: interesting with him coach. I I didn't think Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: was going to work. And in the first year he

477
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Speaker 1: couldn't put halfs together. They'd have a great twelve scripted

478
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: plays and the second half was horseshiped. And then in

479
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: the second year I felt as halfs were more even.

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Speaker 1: And then in the third year this year and I'm like,

481
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: I get complete games from him and I want you

482
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Speaker 1: to go back. Is that? You know, we think if

483
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Speaker 1: a coach gets a job like Matt Nagee, Matt Nagee

484
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: really wasn't ready for this job. Selan mcvay's first year,

485
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: that's abnormal in your career. I think Cliff Kingsbury has

486
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Speaker 1: been given the leash because they fired the previous coach

487
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Speaker 1: after a year, so they weren't going to do that

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Speaker 1: with Cliff. I don't think he was very good as

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Speaker 1: a rookie coach. Take me and by the way, Matt

490
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Lafleur similarly in Green Bay, Dave, if you remember his

491
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: first year, he was great and first halfs they had bad.

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Speaker 1: Second halfs he wasn't good going in and making adjustments.

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Speaker 1: Take me into your career or coach, he's like, you've

494
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: seen that. We tend to think it's not a developmental league,

495
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: but I think it sometimes as for players and coaches,

496
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And you know, I let me make

497
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Speaker 1: a comment on the Cliff Kingsbury thing for a second

498
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Speaker 1: because I talked to a coach uplayer on the staff

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Speaker 1: and I love your vote. And last year I was

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Speaker 1: so down on Cliff because they had two They played

501
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers late in the year. All they

502
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: had to do was win one of those last two

503
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Speaker 1: or three games. And they were playing teams that were

504
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Speaker 1: out of the playoffs because Anne injured on top of it,

505
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: and they could beat them. They were not getting short

506
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Speaker 1: great to play. So what he did, though, said, and

507
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Speaker 1: he said, he I'm gonna give players that take ownership

508
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: in this locker room. Yes, Chandler Jones is going to

509
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Speaker 1: be older and Kyler Murray is going to be older. Absolutely,

510
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Speaker 1: But but with that being said, with that being said,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring in some better guys. They said, Rodney

512
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: Hudson the center, if they signed this guy is a

513
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: star as far as a player and a locker room guy.

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00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: You mentioned JJ Watt, how about AJ Green. I mean,

515
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: these are veteran guys that have won to some degree,

516
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: but they don't have the ring and they're willing to

517
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Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. So he, truly Cliff, you know,

518
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: brought in these veteran guys and said, hey, I need

519
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: help here. I need some help. I didn't put the

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00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: game plan together, but I need guys to take ownership

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00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: of this team and locker room and it's worked. I mean,

522
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: he missed a game this year because of COVID and

523
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: had you know, young kids call him plays and the

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Speaker 1: guys stepped up for him. So I give Cliff a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit. I love your vote. And yeah, I

526
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Speaker 1: went through that too. I mean my first year at

527
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Speaker 1: the Bears, I actually was a head coach and tried

528
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Speaker 1: to calling defenses at the same time. You know, I

529
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: was fortunate. I mean, I think I hired a lot

530
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Speaker 1: of guys, two or three guys that were with us

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Speaker 1: at Dallas that I had worked with other places, so

532
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: I was able to not waste time. A lot of

533
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: young coaches waste a lot of time coaching the coaches.

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00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, somebody jumps off side. For our listeners, our viewers,

535
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: let me make it simple. If somebody jumps offside, if

536
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Speaker 1: you don't really go through it and talk about it

537
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: to precise, what is going to be the reaction of

538
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: the staff. The ball is underground, somebody jumps offside. I mean,

539
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: there's some coaches want to say run a lap. Some

540
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: coaches say get back in the huddle. Other coaches say

541
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: run to play again, you know what I mean. So

542
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: these are little things, but when guys are together and

543
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: they've been together. Boy, you don't have to coach your coaches.

544
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Everybody knows how we're going to react the balls underground.

545
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna huddle up, we're gonna run to play again,

546
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna run, you know, whatever it might be.

547
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: So the point that I'm making is to a lot

548
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: of these coaches hire guys that they don't know because

549
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: they haven't been very experienced in the league and they

550
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: haven't been around much, so they're they're really trying to

551
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: figure out the staff. I mean, look what happened here

552
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I mean, I mean, you know, Matt and Nakee.

553
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: He never worked with Marchel Fleach. He was his offensive coordinator. Uh,

554
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: he never worked with vic fan Joe, he was his

555
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. You know. So he hired guys, uh, and

556
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: then and then you're trying to feel it on and

557
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: get them all on the same page. It's not easy

558
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: for a guy that comes in and uh and just

559
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have a much experience. And the guys you're talking about,

560
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: they haven't been in the league that long. Yeah, So

561
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: it's snowing in Chicago this weekend. Huh. Yeah, let's talk

562
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: some more I'm here now, I just you got me. Now,

563
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: you know I was saying, I mean, let's go to

564
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: another topic, another topic. Okay, how about the Cowboys. You

565
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: know I've already talked about them. Yeah, how about their

566
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Speaker 1: turnaround on defense? You know I talked to one of

567
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Speaker 1: their coaches, could have played for and he's said that

568
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: smart by dan Quinn. He looked at his roster and

569
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: he said, here's what we're gonna do. He says, we're

570
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna have a if we're gonna be successful, We're gonna

571
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Speaker 1: have a lot of young players, first year, second year players,

572
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Speaker 1: a few free agents playing for us. And we have

573
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Speaker 1: to have the old expression clear mind means fast feed,

574
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Speaker 1: and we are going to keep it simple. And they

575
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: run a little bit of man mostly zone, and that's

576
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Speaker 1: why you see the Parsons of the world and those

577
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Speaker 1: rookie players and those young guys playing so good and

578
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: so fast. I think it was a real good decision

579
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Speaker 1: by dan Quinn. So I mean, I give I hadn't

580
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Speaker 1: been a fan of dan Quinn, and I really don't

581
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: know him, you know, but I got to give him

582
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: a shout out. I think he's really done a good

583
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: job well. And also I think from Afar we look

584
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys is a little bit meddling and dysfunctional,

585
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: but they have hit four home runs in the last

586
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Speaker 1: two years in the draft and Trayvon Diggs and Micah

587
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: Parsons defensive linement, yes C d. Lamb, the defensive lineman

588
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: from UCLA. I mean, Jesus, you go look at New

589
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: England's drafts in the last seven years. They haven't They

590
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: haven't hit a home run on offense since Gronk, So

591
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I think sometimes, you know, I

592
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: was saying this the other day about the Rams. Everybody

593
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: thinks the Rams are all star studded. Do you realize

594
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: that fourteen of the twenty two starters for the Rams

595
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: they drafted Now they went and got a great corner,

596
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: and they went and got a great quarterback, but Aaron Donald,

597
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: they drafted Cooper Cup, they drafted now Andrew Whitworth a

598
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Speaker 1: free agent. What they really did, Dave, is they went

599
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: and got key positions from free agency, left tackle, corner, quarterback.

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00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: You know it's hard to hit on those. But if

601
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: you look at the Rams, and I think Dallas similarly,

602
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: the brand is they're meddling and they're dysfunctional. But Dave,

603
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: outside of Amari Cooper, almost all their good players they drafted.

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00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: They deserve him some credit for that, they do. Absolutely, Absolutely,

605
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Even if Jerry was drafting him on his yacht, You're right,

606
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: even if he was, I think he took CD Lamb.

607
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: He was sitting on that big yacht, I remember, and

608
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: he looked up and says, I want to see you know.

609
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: I will say this though, would you give him credit

610
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: that he is relinquished in recent years? A lot of

611
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: the personnel stuff to Steven and Stevens. You know, Stevens

612
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: a bright kid. Yeah, oh, I know Stephen, Well, Stevens

613
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: a great guy. I mean, and he's a football guy.

614
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: And I remember Stephen when he was just getting out

615
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: of college and and starting up with US. Eric Dallas

616
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: back in the day. Liked him. Oh, I loved him. Yeah.

617
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: He's a great, great person and and a grinder. I

618
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: mean a football guy too, just like his dad. But

619
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's uh, their personalities are different, you know. So,

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Speaker 1: um no, that's gonna be interesting again in that division.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a chance. You know, they truly are.

622
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: And John Tampa Bay, I mean, you know, it's it's

623
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. It's row he is. Okay, So here's

624
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: a topic. So I'm old school, so I'm used to

625
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: seeing pocket quarterbacks, and I do realize that I've wrapped

626
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: my arms around Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson. And

627
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: I was watching Jalen Hurts the other day for Philadelphia,

628
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: and he doesn't throw a deep ball, so there's a

629
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: real hole in his game. But Dave, he's productive twenty

630
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: two points, twenty four points, forty four points. And I

631
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: watched Jalen Hurts, and I say, okay, I can't give

632
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: up on him yet, Dave. All I know is this,

633
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: he gets about six yards a play before contact. Before contact,

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Speaker 1: he is making people miss, and I think on short

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Speaker 1: routes he's accurate. I think he is hard to defend.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have a great offensive roster, but

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Speaker 1: there's two or three players I actually think he works

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Speaker 1: well with. Could you be comfortable with a quarterback if

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Speaker 1: he had a hole in his game? And Jalen does

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00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: not throw a pretty deep ball, but his production is

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Speaker 1: pretty obvious. He's a pain in the butt to the fan.

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Speaker 1: But the Chargers struggled with him the Lions couldn't stop him.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing multiple teams now he's getting six and seven

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Speaker 1: yards pre contact. Where are you now on Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like the story of my life with quarterbacks. That's

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00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: that's the guys that I had, Okay, the guys that

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Speaker 1: had a hole in their game for my whole career.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's the way I felt with

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Speaker 1: my quarterbacks. You know, never really had a Troy Athlan

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Speaker 1: type guy. But I'll tell you what I said this

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Speaker 1: early in the year that he would be replaced before

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Speaker 1: the year was up, not because of his performance, because

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00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: they got Gardner Manshu Minchu is the backup and they

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Speaker 1: need to get him some play time in this system,

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Speaker 1: whatever this system is that they're running. Because next year

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Speaker 1: they have a very good chance to have three number

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Speaker 1: one draft picks, so they are going to have the

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Speaker 1: pick of the litter at quarterback, and in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: they need a franchise quarterback like we're talking about with

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Speaker 1: the Bears. So they need to decide the only thing

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00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: they need to decide this year in Philadelphia. They're not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. They need to decide, are they Is it

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Speaker 1: gonna be Jalen Hurts that they wanted as the backup guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, tutor in this young kid or is it

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew? And then the other one's got to go,

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Speaker 1: So that's the only decision. But Jalen Hurts, I would

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Speaker 1: describe him this way, and I love the kid. Hire

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00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: him to work on your podcast and he'll make your

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Speaker 1: podcast better. Whatever that kid does in life, he's a

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Speaker 1: winner and he's gonna make that company better. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: make your team better. Is he a franchise quarterback? I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I just don't think so. There'll be

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're behind by ten points, is he

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Speaker 1: going to take you up and down the field and

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Speaker 1: make enough throws and plays to win? I just don't

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Speaker 1: think so. And I love the kid, I truly do. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's never been a quarterback who is

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Speaker 1: great in league history who can't throw a deep ball.

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Speaker 1: That's why I've always defended Lamar Jackson. Lamar can throw

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Speaker 1: a deep ball. He can. He's improved. Yeah, and he

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00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: is improved, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, And so yeah he's

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Speaker 1: a closer. You know, I've always and think about this,

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Speaker 1: and someone said to me this morning, well, how come

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Speaker 1: the Bears defense couldn't shut them down, I said, because

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00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: they only have so many closures. And when I talk

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00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: about closures, I would always say our defensive ends, our

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00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: pass rushers, and our corners are are closures on defense

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00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: and on offense. It's obviously the quarterback, and you got

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00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: to have a receiver or two Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams.

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Speaker 1: Khalil mac didn't play for the Bears. He's a closure

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game. He makes a difference

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Speaker 1: rushing the passer when you got a lead. The Bears

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Speaker 1: got a one point lead, and how they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the bend. He's not going to get away from anybody.

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Speaker 1: You know where he's at. Who at that point makes

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Speaker 1: a difference and closes the game out of your defense,

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Speaker 1: Leil Mack, you know, and he's hurt. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And I bring that point up because I say to myself,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are behind. Is Jalen Hurts a closure? Can

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Speaker 1: he take you a length of the field? I haven't

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00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: seen that. Making throws not running it. You don't have

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Speaker 1: time outs and you can't be scrambling around and running

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Speaker 1: for first times. You're gonna have to make throws and

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Speaker 1: make him quick. I don't see it happening right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how gonna have dinner? That was great? How about if

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Speaker 1: I send you something from Tofano's or Gibson's dot Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Deep this pizza, you get it there quick. You know,

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Speaker 1: my wife wants to go to Chicago this weekend, and

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Speaker 1: she was talking out it last night, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think she knows it's snowing. In fact, she said she

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Speaker 1: wanted to go, and she goes, oh can I can

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Speaker 1: I call Dave Wanstat's wife because I don't have any

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Speaker 1: friends there and I don't And I said, well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think coach during the football seasons in

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Speaker 1: Chicago until like, don't you leave after Thanksgiving? Oh god, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm here till January to the NFL season's over, because

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Speaker 1: I'm still la back and forth every week. Now. Jan

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00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: will head to Naples right around Christmas time. She's gone,

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Speaker 1: you know, but this coming weekend, check the weather forecast

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Speaker 1: before you book a flight. But we're here, so demed

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Speaker 1: ostwar I'll be gone. Jan's here, so yeah, she'll be around.

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Speaker 1: You look great, coach, Thank you, thank you. You know

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Speaker 1: what I got on I got my pic shirt on. Man. Look,

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Speaker 1: look I'm on the show. I got my pit on.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I like I like him. First of all,

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Speaker 1: he's big. He's got a lot of snaps. He's got

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Speaker 1: three years of snaps. He can move five years of snaps.

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Speaker 1: He started as a true freshman there, and he took

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Speaker 1: the COVID year five years. He's twenty three years old.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this kid, he's gonna be a first

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Speaker 1: ride draft pick at quarterback. Watch him, and you know what.

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Speaker 1: He's not flashy. So he's gonna go like eighth, tenth, twelfth,

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Speaker 1: like Mac Jones to a better team. Tough as nails,

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Speaker 1: too typical Pittsburgh guy. Tough as nails. Drink Sun City beer.

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Speaker 1: It's perfect. Get him a scholarship, calling a scholarship. All right,

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