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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and NEWI Scrugs. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's special edition of the Player's Lodge. Normally we are

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Speaker 1: that we did the show today. I'm Scogs, a long

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Speaker 1: time Cowboys reporter, joined by our man, former Cowboys safety

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Speaker 1: Barry Church, our our other one and mate Danny mccraize.

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Speaker 1: Got the week off, so Church, we're gonna go. We've

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Speaker 1: got a whole lot of topics to get to here.

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Speaker 1: It's April Fools Day, so we're not going to do

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Speaker 1: anything crazy here, especially knowing that your your wife already

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Speaker 1: got you on April Fool's Joke today. Man, she got

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Speaker 1: me good man six thirty in the morning. Uh, here

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Speaker 1: April fools. Man, You know, it took me a minute

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Speaker 1: So she got me. She got me a good one

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Speaker 1: the day. And see she got you because she knows.

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Speaker 1: She knows that that that hot button point and you

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Speaker 1: know your car, oh yeah needs something, So she knew,

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Speaker 1: Oh she must. When you in the car, you go ahead,

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Speaker 1: what what? What? What? Not? My not my car? Not

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Speaker 1: my car? So yeah, yeah, she got good. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into something that you're talking about the Cowboy fans.

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Speaker 1: Something they want, and let's dive into the why it

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. Talking about linebacker kJ Wright looking at

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys in terms of trying to improve this

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Speaker 1: football team. Something we talked about here on the Players Lives.

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Speaker 1: I've advocated its hey, bring in some guys that no

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn system, we did. You saw him do it

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Speaker 1: with coaches, You've done it with some players. Why not

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Speaker 1: adding even better player than Keyan O'Neill and Demante Casey

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Speaker 1: and kJ Wright who spent ten years as a linebacker

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Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks. He's won a World championship there

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Speaker 1: and he's a free agent now. So kJ Wright, thirty

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Speaker 1: one years old, started sixteen games the last two seasons,

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Speaker 1: eighty six tackles, one interception, ten passes defended last year

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Speaker 1: and eleven tackles for loss of twenty sixteen Pro Bowler.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about right and why do you

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Speaker 1: want them? Look to me, I think kJ would be

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Speaker 1: an upgrade over what we have at the linebacker position

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean no disrespect to Lvee and Jalen Smith,

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Speaker 1: but I just believe kJ is an upgrade. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: he can go out there and he can be that

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Speaker 1: and that's huge for any defensive to have ten passes defense.

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Speaker 1: But he did that at the linebacker position, and if

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Speaker 1: you saw what he did at the Seattle defense or

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Speaker 1: what he's done for the Seattle defense, he was that

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Speaker 1: Thomas back there. He was that guy that took away

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Speaker 1: tight ends and allow Cam Chancellor to be that that thumper,

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Speaker 1: that that rat, that low hole player that looks for

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Speaker 1: So I think it'd be a huge upgrade we were

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Speaker 1: able to get kJ right. He has the long arms

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Speaker 1: and like I said, he can cover and he's an

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Speaker 1: all down linebacker. He can play against the run, so

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Speaker 1: he can be your first and second down guy, and

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Speaker 1: he can play against the pass so he can be

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Speaker 1: that third down guy. The only thing I don't really

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Speaker 1: it's what are you gonna do with Keyan O'Neil. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And to me, I don't think that's a good move.

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Speaker 1: he can struggle. So for me, I like where Keyan

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Speaker 1: O'Neil is right now being that sub linebacker. But if

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Speaker 1: you bring in an upgrade like kJ Wright, something has

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Speaker 1: to happen. Either you move Keyan O'Neil back, you take

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Speaker 1: rid of Jalen Smith altogether. I'm not sure what that

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand what you would do bringing him in,

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Speaker 1: even though he's an upgrade, and even though he can

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Speaker 1: players in those pieces. I would go I would go

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Speaker 1: and with Kean O'Neil on third downs. But overall, it's just,

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Speaker 1: what the front office thinks. All right, So let me

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Speaker 1: look at the Seattle end of this before I go

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Speaker 1: back into the Dallas Cowboys positive of trying to bring

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Speaker 1: in a kJ right ten year player. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: a guy who's been there, Walter Payton Man of the

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Speaker 1: haven't they got him a new deal. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: I could see that, but it's like, you know, like

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Speaker 1: so it's not like he's injury prone or he's missing

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Speaker 1: a grandpa. But he's still making plays out there, and

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Speaker 1: But to me, he still has the ability to play,

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Speaker 1: why you know, Pete Carroll and the Seahawks haven't brought

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Speaker 1: him back, But hopefully the Cowboys can go ahead and

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Speaker 1: make that move for him. See if I were in

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Speaker 1: scouting and i'm Will McClay, that's the question I want

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Speaker 1: to answer like a good lord. Yeah, let me figure

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Speaker 1: out and find out why I do not have Why

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Speaker 1: this player does not have a contract when he's been

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Speaker 1: so good for so long in this organization. That that's

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Speaker 1: something I dive into. Now. On the flip side, if

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Speaker 1: and I can see the move for the Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: why they'd want a kJ Right. Here comes the next

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Speaker 1: question you have, what does he want? You know that

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Speaker 1: that truly is the big thing there. What does what

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Speaker 1: especially since the first wave of free agency and the

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Speaker 1: good money's gone, I would like a one year deal

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Speaker 1: and possibly get myself a multi year deal. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, he's thirty one years old, so he

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Speaker 1: may be looking for a multi year deal right now

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Speaker 1: a linebacker? So what does kJ want Right want in

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Speaker 1: order to play for the Dallas Cowboys? And if I'm

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Speaker 1: kJ Right, you know I'm looking at Lavonte David. I

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Speaker 1: think they're about the same age. I think maybe David

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Speaker 1: maybe thirty and kJ Race thirty one. But he just

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Speaker 1: where I think he's getting eleven eleven per year if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. So there's money to be had out

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Speaker 1: back up, he'll be able to hit the market again

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Speaker 1: for a multi year deal. But like you're saying that,

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Speaker 1: get that done, I'm all for it. All right, you're

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Speaker 1: nickel package, who are the two linebackers you want out there?

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Speaker 1: If you say we have kJ right, if you add

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Speaker 1: kJ right, who you know? You know you're going into

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Speaker 1: a nickel and dime situation. Who's going off the field. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If if it's a nickel situation, which is usually just

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Speaker 1: two linebackers in there, I'm going with kJ and I'm

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Speaker 1: going with lve. The reason I'm taking Jalen and Keyan

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Speaker 1: Keyano Nil. I know he's a thumper down in there,

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Speaker 1: But when you get those three hundred pound linebackers or

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Speaker 1: these guys helped you end up going, you know, going

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Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. So what is it you want here?

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Speaker 1: And is it here or do you need to go

429
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Speaker 1: acquire it and get more of it? Obviously they'll tell you, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, Casey knows what we want to do, so

431
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Speaker 1: they'll they'll pump that up. But you've already talked about

432
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Speaker 1: how coming off an injury, you don't know exactly know

433
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Speaker 1: what you have and the fact that they put so

434
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Speaker 1: little money in Casey tells you what their faith level is.

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Speaker 1: So I'd love to understand from dan Quinn what is

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Speaker 1: it you need on the back end to complete and

437
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Speaker 1: compete with this defense? Yeah, Like, like you said, what's

438
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Speaker 1: the identity of the back end. I mean, are we

439
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Speaker 1: going to be more of a Seattle back end where

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Speaker 1: they played if they played man, but it really wasn't

441
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Speaker 1: a match man like Sherman, didn't travel with the number

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Speaker 1: one receiver, they didn't do any of that stuff. And

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Speaker 1: they were they were a high zone team like they

444
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Speaker 1: played man, but they were a high zone team. A

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Speaker 1: lot of cover three, a lot of just roaming by

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Speaker 1: the safeties and roaming by the corners. Is that what

447
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be because I mean, as we've seen Digs

448
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Speaker 1: is I think Digs in my opinion right now, I

449
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 1: think he's more of a man corner. He locks down

450
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Speaker 1: certain On the other hand, he can go out there

451
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Speaker 1: and he can do both. He has a pedigree of

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Speaker 1: doing both. So what type of type of system are

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Speaker 1: we gonna run? We have a whole safety and CAZy,

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Speaker 1: granted if he comes back healthy from injury, who's able

455
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Speaker 1: to be that red line to red line or rangey safety.

456
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Speaker 1: We got that in the box kind of camp Chancellor

457
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Speaker 1: kind of knock your head off keyan O'Neil in the

458
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Speaker 1: box right there as well. So are we trying to

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Speaker 1: model that legion of boom or are we going into

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Speaker 1: a different direction. These are the questions that I wish,

461
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Speaker 1: you know, Dan Quinn would give us a solid answer

462
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Speaker 1: on Richie. Gonna have to wait untill the season begins,

463
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Speaker 1: but I definitely see them addressing this secondary in the draft,

464
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Speaker 1: whether it be certain at the corner or getting a

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Speaker 1: Richie Grant or somebody at that as safety to compete

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Speaker 1: with Kaz and to compete with Wilson. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're done in the secondary, but I was just like

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Speaker 1: some answers as to what the identity of this defense

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Speaker 1: is going to be. All Right, we'll get into some

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Speaker 1: of these players later on. Here, let me write down

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Speaker 1: Richie Grant. Richie Grant is a guy that forty four

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Speaker 1: you know, we all have our things. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: break here. We got to get into the fact that

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Speaker 1: the NFL and now has a seventeen game regular season

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Speaker 1: take the day off. Here. Let's dive into something that

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Speaker 1: I think is big that people aren't talking enough about

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Speaker 1: on social media concerning all players, especially at Cowboys Nation

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Speaker 1: Berry Church, and that is that the NFL owners approved

533
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Speaker 1: a seventeenth game. That seventeenth game is going to be

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys at New England to take other Patriots. They

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Speaker 1: don't they do not play well at New England. They've

536
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Speaker 1: never beaten Bill Belichick at New England. So Milke McCarthy

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Speaker 1: versus Bill Belichick is the added game that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are going to get as a football player, barring having

539
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: played this game and gone through sixteen, what does a

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Speaker 1: seventeenth game mean for the body? And how do the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys as an organization need to start thinking about having

542
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Speaker 1: seventeen games? Seventeen games? So the positives about that as

543
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Speaker 1: for a player is, look, you get more money. That's

544
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Speaker 1: seventeen again, You're gonna get another check. You have more

545
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Speaker 1: revenue coming in, a bigger piece of the pie with

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Speaker 1: the owners, so you got more money coming in. And

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Speaker 1: this is something that the players. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: agreed upon this already, so it's not like they can

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Speaker 1: really pretty much complain about it. I know I've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of the social media the players like, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, a seventeenth game. How's my body can barely

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Speaker 1: stand up for sixteen? And now you want me to

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Speaker 1: do a seventeen. But this is something that you'll agree upon.

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Speaker 1: This is something that the CB, the news, CBA when

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Speaker 1: it came out, the owners proposed this and you guys

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Speaker 1: agreed upon it as a player. So there's not really

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Speaker 1: much complaining that the players can do because they already

558
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Speaker 1: agreed upon this. Now when we're talking about seventeenth game

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Speaker 1: for the season in the body, I don't think one

560
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Speaker 1: more game will be that taxing on the body. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: they took out one preseason game and a little preseason

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Speaker 1: for if you're if you're a bona fie starter, you're

563
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: you're rarely playing anyway, as you might get in for

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Speaker 1: you know, a quarter maybe at two quarters on that

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Speaker 1: third preseason game. It's kind of a warm up for

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Speaker 1: the season. So the preseason you're not really doing that

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Speaker 1: if you're a starter. And then the seventeen games during

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Speaker 1: the regular season or sixteen games or the regular season, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a task. It'll beat your body down and you'll

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Speaker 1: by the time sixteen weeks come around, you're like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: this has been a rough one. But that one more game,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be that much of

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Speaker 1: a difference from the sixteenth game. I could see if

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Speaker 1: it was going up to eighteen or one up to

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Speaker 1: nineteen games, but one more game. I think these players

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Speaker 1: should be able to handle that. So to me, they

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Speaker 1: don't have the right to really complain when you signed

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Speaker 1: off on that you're getting extra money. I don't see

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Speaker 1: it as a as a as that big of a

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Speaker 1: deal to add one more game to these players. I mean,

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00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: you've seen some complaining about it, but overall, I don't

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00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: think it's that big of a deal. Every plus you're

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Speaker 1: getting more money. I say, you make it happen. But

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Speaker 1: when we come to this New England matchup, man, I'm

585
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Speaker 1: one in three against New England one in three. I

586
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Speaker 1: don't know what it is about what they do up there,

587
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: but it is hard. It is extremely hard to win

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Speaker 1: up there. Whether it's the weather conditions, whether they just

589
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: got your number, whether they just you know, whether they

590
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Speaker 1: scouted you today, I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 1: running up in New England is hard. In that seventeenth game,

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Speaker 1: I hope, and I hope it's not to get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. We got to win this game in order

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Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs. I hope that's not the case,

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Speaker 1: because it's extremely hard to win in New England against

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and Cam Newton. He got some weapons. They

597
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: went in free agency and got some weapons there, so

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Speaker 1: I think it might be a nice little battle up there.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully it ain't for nothing to get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: or we already got that sealed up. The schedule has

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Speaker 1: yet to come out. If I'm the Cowboys, I'm hoping

602
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Speaker 1: to get to New England in September. That to me

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Speaker 1: is the yes, you want to play this game. It's

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Speaker 1: as possible is. They're trying to add the new weapons

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Speaker 1: and integrate them into their offense and defense. But I

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Speaker 1: just sit here and think out, you don't want to

607
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: be there in December. You don't want to be there November.

608
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: I was there for that last Cowboys game up in Foxborough.

609
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: It was a cold, wet, rainy day. Neither offense could

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Speaker 1: get going. The Patriots were down wide receivers, and the

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00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: game was won on special teams. It was one on

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Speaker 1: a block, it was one on a block, a block punt,

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Speaker 1: Patriots recover, score a touchdown and that was kind of

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Speaker 1: the end. And I remember talking with Jerry Jones afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I'm standing there next to Edward and Jerry was hot,

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Speaker 1: and you could tell at that point in time he

617
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Speaker 1: was done with Keith o quinn as a special teams coach,

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Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett was going to find his way out

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Speaker 1: of the door that was where he was because it

620
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: was a winnable football game. You lost the game because

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Speaker 1: you got out coached. You lost the game because you

622
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Speaker 1: couldn't execute on special teams at faith in the game

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Speaker 1: where you know, okay, you know, Matthew Slater, it's coming.

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Speaker 1: You know. Bill Belichick put the emphasis there and the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys lost right there. So they've had a tough time

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Speaker 1: up there in New England. Man, So I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: you want to get there as early as possible. It's

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Speaker 1: like a Packers game. Did you get see the Packers

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Speaker 1: on the schedule? Hope you can get the Packers sober

630
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Speaker 1: late in the year because the odds against you are tough.

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Speaker 1: It's tough, and I've been in there. I've been in

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Speaker 1: both situations. I've played the Packers in the Divisional round

633
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Speaker 1: of playoffs when it was bitter cold and lambeau Field

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Speaker 1: we all remember it the catch that should have been

635
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Speaker 1: a catch, but the refs that they were smoking wacky

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Speaker 1: tobaccy or whatever they were smoking out there because it

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Speaker 1: should have been a cash But anyways, the conditions are

638
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Speaker 1: terrible at lambeau Field. That's what the other place you

639
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Speaker 1: don't want to go and in Foxbor. I was there

640
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: for the AFC Championship in twenty seventeen. It wasn't the

641
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: it was just the bitter wind. Like it felt like

642
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: the wind was just cutting through your pads because it

643
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: wasn't raining, and it wasn't like it when the wind stopped,

644
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was, you know, the unbelievably freezing

645
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: cold like the frozen tundra. But the wind, man, the

646
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: wind cuts through your pads, It cuts through your jerseys,

647
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: whatever under armor, Nike stuff you got on, it cuts

648
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: through that stuff a little. If we can get them

649
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: on the schedule early, I think we got a better

650
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: chance of being late in the season going against Belichick

651
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: and going against all those opt ins and free agents

652
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: once they jailed. I hope we get them knocked out

653
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: earlier in the season because, like you said, it's hell

654
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: going up to New England in late in the year

655
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: like that. When I look at a seventeen game schedule

656
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: and I think about some of the players that the

657
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys had who dealt with health issues the past few seasons,

658
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: I think of tackles Tyrant Smith and lell College. You

659
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: think about linebacker Layton Vanderesh and then here they are

660
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: bringing in Kean O'Neill and Demante Kazy, guys who battled

661
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: in this seventeenth game. To me, speaks to the fact

662
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: that you really have to understand and get depth. You

663
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: need depth because it's already showing. We saw last year

664
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: how tough it was to get through sixteen games for

665
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: this football team. Now you're adding one more. Depth becomes

666
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: very important. And I also come into this one. I

667
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: think about death the church. You understand this because you

668
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: cut your teeth here. Special teams, man. You know, when

669
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: you start losing guys, Special teams is where a lot

670
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: of these backups are going to be coming from. And

671
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: then if they're playing specials, if you take them off,

672
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: who takes their place? This is this is an important

673
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: phase of the football game that the Cowboys, in my opinion,

674
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: have got to figure out how to win it. If

675
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: they can figure out how if they can win the

676
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: offensive and special teams phase of football game, they're gonna

677
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to win this division. That's how I feel.

678
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can, but that's just my feeling.

679
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: How can you improve those football team in twenty twenty

680
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: one but adding that seventeenth game, it's going to tax

681
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: you and Samarius here, it's gonna be taxing. It's gonna

682
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: be taxing. And like you said, we have a team

683
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: that's fielded with guys I hate to say it, but

684
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: guys that are injury prone. I mean, looking back n

685
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: Smith Lie College just came off hit Zach Martin. Our

686
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: whole linebacking crew, I mean, our whole safety crew. If

687
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: you think about Kean Kneel with the Achilles, Kazy with Achilles.

688
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: So we're fielding a team with injury prone players. So

689
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: that's seventeenth game. It could be extremely taxing for this team.

690
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: But that's why I love the signings of a guy

691
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: like c. J. Good, one who can come in here

692
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: help the special teams out. You don't really have to

693
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: take him from the defense to be it be a

694
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: part of the special teams. He's already entrenched in a

695
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: special team so he can be there for you. And

696
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: also I hope they get this done. But with that

697
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: seventeen game, we need a guy like Joe Looney. We

698
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: need a guy that can go out there and he

699
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: can be that interior swing offensive lineman. He could be,

700
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: he could play guard center or the opposite guard. We

701
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: need somebody like that who can fill in, especially with

702
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: adding another game. I don't think it'll be that taxing,

703
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: but as injury prone as this whole team has been,

704
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: I think we need to get depth pieces, and Joe

705
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: Looney would be an excellent death piece as we've seen

706
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: him come in and play well for injured Zach Travis

707
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Frederick when he was here and then he had to

708
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: move over to guard last year a couple of times.

709
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: So for me, I feel as that we need to

710
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: make those signings. But like you said, man, this injury

711
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: prone team heading into a seventeen games regular ski regular

712
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: season that could be pretty taxing. This is where your

713
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: pro personnel department's gotta be on its game here because

714
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: we know come training camp, if the Cowboys are allowed

715
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: to have training camp, and by all account, just hearing

716
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell and what people are saying that this should happen,

717
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose guys and you're constantly having a list

718
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: of you who do we bring in here for the

719
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule? Here I am, I'm worried about, Okay,

720
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: where do you go? Also, we hadn't talked about it

721
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: very much. But the backup quarterback position here? Where did

722
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go? You weren't thinking that you needed a

723
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: backup quarterback last year, but you did, and Andy Dalton

724
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: was the guy that they were able to rely on.

725
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: So where do you good? Yet? Do it? You know

726
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: were good? Then? Baby? You know you know where I'm

727
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: going with this. You know I'm gold. We are good

728
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: at back. I'm telling you you gotta trust in double

729
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: G Man. You gotta trust in Gilbert. He showed they

730
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: could company, he could play man. He saw against the

731
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: Steelers when they at the time they were undefeated, defense

732
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: was rolling. He can't even play it well. I think

733
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: you gotta give him a shot to at least be

734
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: the backup here. I think I think he can help

735
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: you out, especially if something were to happen let's knock

736
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: on wood, but especially if something would have happened to

737
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: that pressed out, I think he could come in and

738
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: do some damage. Man. So I think we're personally good.

739
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm probably the only one out here in the Cowboys

740
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: fan and the fandom or whatever that believes in Gilbert.

741
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, I think we're good at that

742
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: backup spot. I would I would venture to say this

743
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: that Will McClay and Mike McCarthy would have their eyes

744
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: open to see is there a potential backup player that

745
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: they could improve upon from Gilbert with ten draft picks.

746
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to upgrade from

747
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: Ben da Nucci. To me, you gotta be out of here.

748
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I go back to what Bill Parcels used to say.

749
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: You're always trying to churn the bottom of your roster. Okay,

750
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: that bottom of the roster. You know, You're trying to

751
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: look at these How can we get better here? How

752
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: can we find another person? The Cowboys did it last

753
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: year and getting Andy Dalton that was a circumstance has

754
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: just worked out well for them. So to me, that's

755
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: what I'm looking to do. And Bend Nucci, I don't look.

756
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Let's be fair to de Nucci from this standpoint. He

757
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't have a full training kid, he didn't have an offseason,

758
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: and when he got when he got thrown in there,

759
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: you got thrown into the toughest level of competition out there,

760
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: and you're going from playing at James Madison University to

761
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: going on the road on Sunday night football to play

762
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles. That's tough. That's tough. I don't

763
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: think we should judge him and several other draft picks

764
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: based on last year alone, to say, man, this guy's

765
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: no good, let's give him a shot. But if you

766
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: have ten draft picks and you're getting towards and you're

767
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: looking towards the sixth, sixth round or so, and you

768
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: see a guy that you say, oh, look, we think

769
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: we could get something with this player, and Mike mccarthur

770
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: thinks that they can develop them, something to think about that.

771
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: That's that's what I see. And so you could have

772
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: somebody that's pushing Ben de Nucci that Denucci at least

773
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: has the ability he's been in the offense four years ago,

774
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: have a little bit better understanding. But I am of

775
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: the belief that you should always take a quarterback. I

776
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: do think that ron Wolf did very well with that,

777
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: that philosophy of let's always look for a guy in

778
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Through the years, you saw the move on from an

779
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Brooks, a mad hasseleback, a Kurt Water. They went

780
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: through dudes, they went through some Mark Bark Bronelle was

781
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: up there at Green Bay for a while. So they

782
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: went through a lot of quarterbacks and through the years. Uh,

783
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, they were on point about what they were doing.

784
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see if the Cowboys continue

785
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: this with the draft. I hope they do, especially Arned

786
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: with ten picks um and I I you don't know

787
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: how many guys. I don't see ten players making this,

788
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: ten picks making the football team. But stranger things. Stranger

789
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: things have happened, But I don't think so this is true.

790
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm also surprised that the Cowboys didn't

791
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: at least kick may Maybe they did. Maybe they did,

792
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: but they didn't kick the tires on a Colt McCoy.

793
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's over in Uh. I think

794
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: maybe Arizona signed him or something Arizon. You know, he's

795
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: been the league, he's proven as a backup, and he

796
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: came in and he he was a part of that

797
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: win over Seattle, if I'm not mistaken. When he was

798
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: with New York last was that natal Yeah, I believe

799
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: he was with them the win over Seattle. He's a

800
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: guy that he beat us before. He came in as

801
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: a back up in Washington and beat the Dallas Cowboys.

802
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: To me, I'm surprised they didn't kick the can on

803
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: a guy like that. I'm all right, I'm all right,

804
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: you're all right on that. You don't want you one

805
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: of that Colt McCoy. Uh, you know what, I believe

806
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: that there'll be another cult McCoy that can can get free,

807
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: especially once you This is the beauty of the draft.

808
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: Once the draft gets done and once guys, once teams

809
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: have to start signing these guys too. I do believe

810
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: we're going to see some post June cuts. We're gonna

811
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: see some guys be available with that. That will happen.

812
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: So so I'm not, oh my gosh, let's go get

813
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. I'm good. I'm good. God, Yeah, I'm look

814
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: at a Trubisky, looks wasn't two point five to go

815
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: to Buffalo? That like we could have made a move

816
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: on that. I mean, I know he's not dude, you know,

817
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: you don't want him to be your starter or nothing

818
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: like that. But he comes in for for for a game,

819
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: for a game. Maybe you know. I'm good. I'm good,

820
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm good. Look, I watched I watched a lot of

821
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: Carolina football man and the thing about Mitchell Trubisky coming

822
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: out of school that I never understood he couldn't beat

823
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: at Marquis Williams, and the coaching staff was trying to

824
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: be that try like, dude, you can beat this guy.

825
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: He could never beat Marquise Williams, who's nothing more than

826
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: a practice player on an NFL squad for a couple

827
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: of years. So that had I had questions there. Then

828
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: he had only thirteen starts and so he ends up

829
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: being thirteam All acc behind Lamar Jackson, who won the

830
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: highs for that year at Louisville and Deshaun Watson, who

831
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: went on to win a national championship. So I just

832
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: never got the whole Trubisky deal. And I shake my

833
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: head at the process of how this guy got pushed

834
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: up in the draft process and people thought he was

835
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: going to do all these things that I just like,

836
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: huh wait. And so when you talk about bringing Mentell

837
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: Trubisky and now you know what you are. Now you're

838
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: adopting that dog from the shelter. This this headed issues

839
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: issues of polem. Might mean bite, you don't know what

840
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: you're getting out. You know what kind of dog you get.

841
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: You know you got it from the pound. We don't know.

842
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: But because the take off would be so much lower.

843
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't want that, dude, Okay, I don't want that dog. Okay,

844
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to fight a better dog, all right, No, No,

845
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want that. Man. I'm good,

846
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm good. Man. He's like, he's like that. Uh you

847
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: when you go to the pound, you see when they

848
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: say mix terrier mix, you know, uh um, you're like that,

849
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: you know what the mix is because they told me

850
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Speaker 1: because our dog, our dog looks like a boxer, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a boxing And then when you looked at the

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Speaker 1: little the little car, he said boxer mix, Like, well,

853
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Speaker 1: what's the mix? Mix? Was pitbull? They don't They don't

854
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Speaker 1: say boxer pitbull because you probably I don't want a

855
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Speaker 1: part of pitbull. So you don't know. I don't know

856
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Speaker 1: what I get mental to risk. So I don't want

857
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: let Buffalo deal with that. If you're the cowboy, we

858
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: don't need to deal with Where the dude who's been

859
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: all scattershot out, I don't know what I'm getting there, man,

860
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know because this dude has

861
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: been put through the ringer. I remember the story, worry

862
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: where and that came out that he was mad that

863
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: they had NFL network on at the facility because they

864
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: were trashing in Oh yeah, man, yeah, that was so

865
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he said something like that, man, like

866
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Speaker 1: a couple on. Man, you even quarterback in the National

867
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Speaker 1: Football And he said, turned it off because I don't

868
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: want to hear the negative talk about me. I mean,

869
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: the couple got you gotta be you got you gotta

870
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Speaker 1: be a little bit stronger than that. Yeah. See, I

871
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: just and I just look at him overall. This was

872
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: a this was a player who was overdrafted Day one.

873
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: I was just I was just never a Trabisky fan

874
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: because I go back to what Bill parcels. You're talking

875
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: about how many starts he wanted to see out of

876
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: a quarterback and what do you want? He didn't fit

877
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: any of that. He just didn't not fit any of that.

878
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: And the player they were talking about, I'm like, wait

879
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: a minute, this guy's not better than Deshaun Watson. Fact

880
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: had happened Deshaun Watson, you know, wasn't even a game. Um.

881
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: I just when I looked at the resume of what

882
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: Watson had coming out of Clempson, I look at what

883
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky. I'm like, how was this a conversation? But

884
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: it was. And you think about how much Chicago look

885
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: not just Chicago, look at everybody who passed on Mittell

886
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: true who I mean, who passed on the Shaun Watson

887
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes and the quarterback situations they find themselves in. Today.

888
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: You got Chicago, all right, Chicago passed. They were trying

889
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: to trade three first round picks, try to get Russell Wilson.

890
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: They don't have a franchise quarterback. So then you have

891
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Forty nineers decided they didn't want

892
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: either one. Okay, then now here would start with Jimmy

893
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: g just trading a boatload to get the third pick

894
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: in the draft. Love the jacket they got the Jaguars. Jaguars,

895
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: we want to take Leonard Fournette. I think Fournette was four,

896
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: but they took Leonard Furnette. He's no longer on the

897
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: football team. Now they've got the number one pick, they're

898
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: taking Trevor Lords the Jets. Jets decide we're going to

899
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: take safety Jamal Adams instead of taking the Shawn Watson

900
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes. Here the Jets with the second overall pick,

901
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: talking about dumping Sam Donald, who they took number three

902
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: pick a couple of years ago, you know, back in

903
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: the back in the you know, the quarterback business, because

904
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: they haven't gotten a guy. So all these teams who

905
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: passed on a dude, and I always go back to

906
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: Watson because he had to proven resume, Harry, that was it.

907
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Patrick a winner, you know, Mahomes was a guy in Alabama.

908
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: He's a winner. I'm surprised, man, just like you. I'm surprised, right.

909
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: You know, Cleveland, Cleveland had two shots at it. Cleveland

910
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: the number one pick. They took Miles Garrett of Arlington

911
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: turned out to be the right pick. But then they

912
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: had the twelfth pick in the first round and they

913
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: traded it away and Houston came up and got it

914
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: from Cleveland and they took Watson. So I'm just shaking

915
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: my head at these teams and made these mistakes here

916
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: and after you after these guys, we think about this now,

917
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: after these guys have failed, okay, because Mitchell Trubisky's a

918
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: failure for them, you don't what are you going to

919
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: get and how much work do you have to do

920
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: to rebuild this guy. You know, you're that's a lot.

921
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: So you're saying the cowboy right now, Dak Prescott gets

922
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: hurt again, you want to throw Mischell Trubisky out there.

923
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: You'll be comfortable with that, you okay, That's why I

924
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: am comfortable, though. I say, I'll tell you what we

925
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta be in the greet. All right, Well,

926
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Speaker 1: can we agree on this one? Double g Gilbert. I

927
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: think it's a better backup solution than what we got

928
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: in the league right now, like like because you don't

929
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: you're not a fan of coulpe McCoy. You ain't liking

930
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: at your bisky Chase Daniel. I just think he's there.

931
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Speaker 1: So I think I think we got a solid backup.

932
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Speaker 1: I mean, unless I were saying there's something in the

933
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Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round, I think that's solid. I think

934
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: that's solid option. I would I'm right here, take colpe

935
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: McCoy to camp and go figure it out. I'm at

936
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Speaker 1: col mcoy. I mean, Garrett Gilbert, take Gilbert the camp

937
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: and figure it out. You're the Cowboys. I mean I don't,

938
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Speaker 1: I don't have I'm not sitting here saying no, no, no,

939
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: let me see more. You know, let's once again on

940
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Speaker 1: ota a training camp, some preseason contests. Let's see what happens.

941
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy spoke about wanting more competition at his press

942
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: conference two weeks ago when I was at there, So

943
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to Gary Gilbert, but I'm also not

944
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: opposed to saying, hey, what else could happen? What else

945
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: could follow your way? Because you can get lucky that way.

946
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: And maybe you have another case where like Andy Dalton says, hey, look,

947
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Speaker 1: you know what I just want to beat right here

948
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: in Texas and this makes sense for me. Who knows

949
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys can get lucky. Got lucky with Everson Griffin,

950
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: they got lucky with Robert Quinn, and in each situation

951
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: was a little bit different. But you saw yourself getting

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Speaker 1: a player that you didn't expect to get at a

953
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Speaker 1: price that was comfortable for you. So let's see if

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00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: that ends up turning that way for the quarterback market.

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Speaker 1: All right, Look, there's guys I want to get to here,

956
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: but let's touch on the draft. Kyle Pitzpatrick Stain justin

957
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Speaker 1: feels Richie Grant will do that next. As the players

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Speaker 1: so let's get into the draft. The Cowboys currently have

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Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick in this year's draft, which is

1002
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Speaker 1: this month because now it's April first. Kyle Pitts is

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Speaker 1: a guy that Cowboy fans keeps salivating over. The tight

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Speaker 1: end from Florida who in eight games, Church had seven

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards and twelve touchdowns. He had his

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1008
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Speaker 1: wingspan for a wide receiver or tight end in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty years. So you look at Kyle Pitts and

1011
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: he checks off a lot of box And here's what

1012
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: I'll say to the Cowboy fans who want them stop.

1013
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: The guy's not going to be there at ten. Okay,

1014
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: it's not. When you look at everything, people say, it's

1015
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be there. So the retort I keep getting back, Well,

1016
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Speaker 1: they say about CD Lamb last year. Here's the thing

1017
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: about wide receivers in Church. You understand it's very well

1018
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: having been a defensive bat. Different teams have different schemes

1019
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: and different visions for players. The Raiders wanted Henry Ruggs.

1020
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: Their idea was looking at Henry Ruggs basically like a

1021
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill two point uh. Hey man, we want a

1022
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: speedy guy, Bam, let him get out here. Ruggs isn't tall,

1023
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: but he's super super fast. So Jerry Judy ended up

1024
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: fitting exactly what the Denver Broncos wanted in a wide receiver.

1025
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: And these are the things that happen. And so wide

1026
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: receivers it's a different there's a kind of a different

1027
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: play you want to got to be an ex me,

1028
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: so there's different things you want from a receiver in

1029
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: terms of your scheme. Kyle Pittsson Titan is pretty pretty

1030
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: pretty simple of what it is you're gonna want from

1031
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: the player. So I don't think it's gonna be like

1032
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: a CD Lamb where you have Hey, there's different types

1033
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: of receivers and fit us versus. Hey, here's Kyle pitch.

1034
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: You kind of know what he's gonna do. Do you

1035
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: want yourself a George Kittle, Travis Cass, Travis Helfy. Right,

1036
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: That's that's what you're kind of looking at right there.

1037
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: So I think it's a lot different than looking at

1038
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. And based on that, I don't see him

1039
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Speaker 1: fall in the tent. If he's the generational talent, and

1040
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Speaker 1: if he's cooking the way our guy, Dave Hellman says

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1042
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Speaker 1: then there's no way he falls to ten. That's my tent. Yeah,

1043
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: there's no way. You're completely right, man. Look this guy,

1044
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Speaker 1: as everybody says and all the reports out there, is

1045
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: supposedly this generational talent, and he's a mismatched nightmare, especially

1046
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Speaker 1: when you line him up at a tight end position.

1047
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Speaker 1: And I don't doubt that the guy ran a four

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Speaker 1: point four or five out there at his protay at

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five pounds. I mean, that's extremely

1050
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Speaker 1: hard to do. That's extremely hard to run with if

1051
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Speaker 1: you're a linebacker of safe or anything like that. That

1052
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Speaker 1: is pure speed. He has the height, like you mentioned,

1053
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Speaker 1: he has the are the longest arms in the past

1054
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Speaker 1: twenty years, so you know, his catch radius is extremely ridiculous.

1055
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Speaker 1: So this guy will not fall all the way to ten.

1056
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Speaker 1: But even if for some miraculous, crazy reason he ended

1057
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: up falling to ten, I still wouldn't personally. Personally, this

1058
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: is my personal opinion. I would not go and get him. Yes,

1059
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: he can be a mismatched nightmare and all that other stuff,

1060
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: but we already have mismatched nightmares on our offense. Our

1061
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: offense is already loaded. And this is a team sport.

1062
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: It ain't like basketball where you're like, oh, let me

1063
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: just add another superstar and we'll take off. No, this

1064
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: is a team sport. And if you have such a

1065
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: heavy loaded offensive side and your defense is struggling mightily

1066
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: like we did last year, I don't care who you

1067
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: got out there, you're not gonna do anything. You're gonna

1068
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: end up being we will now end up being seven

1069
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: and seven and ten or something like that. You won't

1070
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 1: be able to go out there and compete on every

1071
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: game basis because some teams out there, to build Belichi

1072
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: teams of the world out there, they're gonna find a

1073
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: way to take away cowfense. They're gonna find a way

1074
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: to take your offense and knock it down a little bit,

1075
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: and you's when you're gonna need your defense to step up.

1076
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: And if we don't have anybody, we don't have talent

1077
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: or anybody on the defensive side of the ball to

1078
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: go ahead and match up, we're gonna be struggling. We're

1079
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna struggle as a team, and we're gonna be writing

1080
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: the same boat we were last year saying what's going on?

1081
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: Why aren't we winning these games? We're giving up too

1082
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: many points? Well, we kick the can too far down

1083
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: the road on the defensive side of the ball. We

1084
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: need to subject. We need to go ahead, and we

1085
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: need to pick defense. I'm gonna be a complete one.

1086
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: We need to pick defense. Church. Look, I've been singing

1087
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: that same song with you for a while, but I'm

1088
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: gonna ask you this question because I consistently hear this

1089
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: when people hit me on Twitter at NEWI scrugs. It's

1090
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: any Wy scruggs on Twitter. Take the best player available

1091
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: and you figure it out to figure out the rest later.

1092
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: Just take the best player available. So, if the Cowboys

1093
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: big Board has Kyle Pitts rated as one of the

1094
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: top four players in the draft, any team miraculously, which

1095
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe, but miraculously sits there at ten. Do

1096
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: you follow your board or do you go with the defensive?

1097
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: Need you tell me what you do? No? No, because

1098
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a luxury for teams that have

1099
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: already had an established team. They already have an established

1100
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: identity on both sides of the ball. They got what

1101
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: they want, and now they're just like, all right, well

1102
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: let's pick you know, this is the best guy available.

1103
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's just add them. Let's just add them to

1104
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: the team. We don't have that luxury as a Cowboys. Yes,

1105
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: we have a stacked offensive team with multiple guys out

1106
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: there who can catch the ball and do damage after

1107
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: they catch the ball. We're stacked offensively. Defensively, we're the

1108
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: exact opposite. We're injury prone, and we got demolished last year.

1109
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: So for me, if you're going out there saying, all right,

1110
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: let's just pick the our best, the best available player,

1111
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: he's the highest ranked on our board, and let the

1112
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: chips fall from there, I think you're gonna sit there

1113
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: and be in the same situation that you were in

1114
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: last year, where you have a struggling defense and an

1115
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: offense that can be one injury away from from from

1116
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: being you know, not as good as we thought they

1117
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: were coming into the season. So for me, I don't

1118
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: think we have that luxury of going best available player.

1119
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: I think we need to hit the defensive side of

1120
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: the ball and make sure that side of the ball

1121
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: can match our potential in our power on the offensive side.

1122
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: If we can do that, then we have a team

1123
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: that can actually do damage out there. But if we're

1124
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: just gonna keep stockpiling on offensive side of the ball,

1125
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: I know it sales tickets, and I know they love

1126
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: to put up points and all this TV rings and

1127
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, but you're not gonna win many games.

1128
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: You need to have a balanced team, and right now

1129
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: we're a heavily, heavily talented offensive team, not so much

1130
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. That's why for me,

1131
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: if there was a defensive linement or a defensive you know,

1132
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: person in the front seven that stood out amazingly, I

1133
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: say we would go had to go get that guy.

1134
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: But there's not that guy in this draft on the

1135
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: defensive line that can make I think the changes that

1136
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: this team that this defense is need. There's just not

1137
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: that guy out there in this draft. So I mean,

1138
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: you gotta address our secondary, and I think you go

1139
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: to I think he goes to our tam All right,

1140
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: So based on Patrick's your team and looking at so

1141
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: far of what people are projected, Okay, we could see

1142
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks go early on the Cowboys. Could

1143
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: could be sitting here looking at Cirta, which, according to

1144
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: most rankings, is the highest rated defensive play. Let's say

1145
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: he goes nine to the Denver Broncos. If Patrick's off,

1146
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: If if Cirta's off the board, where do you go?

1147
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: That's a toughie, man. It depends how it depends how

1148
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: much I think personally, it depends how much you love

1149
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: the corner from South Carolina, Jays Horn. I believe his

1150
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: name is Yeah, I believe because killn Farley, the guy

1151
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: from Virginia, the corner from Virginia who many had above

1152
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: certain before he had this back surgery and all that stuff.

1153
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: I think once he had those injuries and has to

1154
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: have surgery, I don't think that high. Yeah, he dropped out.

1155
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't want to go that high and

1156
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: pick him because he won't even be ready until Campell,

1157
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: who knows how to shape and all that other type

1158
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: of stuff. So me, you gotta look at the corner

1159
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: from South Carolina to see if he if he's in

1160
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: the same ball parker, if he's in the same realm

1161
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: as a certain and he's worth getting that number ten pick.

1162
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: If not, then you might want to trade back. You

1163
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: might want to trade back, stop pile some picks and

1164
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: adjust the defense that that way, get a lot of

1165
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: picks on the defensive side of the ball that way.

1166
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm still I'm still even if certain

1167
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: for some reason's not there, I'm still not go on offense.

1168
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: I just to me, I just we just don't have

1169
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: that luxury. So I would trade back. So let me

1170
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: throw this here at ten. Would you be comfortable with

1171
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: linebacker Micah Parsons from Penn State. I don't think so.

1172
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't think because I don't think, okay, him at

1173
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: the linebacker would be that game changing of a player

1174
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: out there. I don't think he brings that that edge

1175
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: rusher that would go after the quarterback every day. I

1176
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: don't think he brings that Miles Garrett type playmaking ability

1177
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: every single down. I think he's a great piece, and

1178
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: I think he can be a great piece on a

1179
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: deep that surrounds him with great pieces as well. But

1180
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: at ten, Michael Parsons, he's super athletic, he can you know,

1181
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: he has all that, But I don't think he can

1182
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: fit in this defense, seeing that we already have a

1183
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neil. We got that jail and we got that LV.

1184
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: I just don't see where he would fit and then

1185
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: make our defense that much better seeing as a certain

1186
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: he could come in and plug and play immediately and

1187
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: upgrade our secondary. So for me, I still trade back.

1188
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't see Michael Parsons as that type of game

1189
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: changing player out there. I could be wrong, but I

1190
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: just don't see him as that game changer. Now there's

1191
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: thoughts about the Cowboys trading out at ten, and I've

1192
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: talked about it before here. But if you are in,

1193
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: if you're wanting to trade up, say you're the Bears.

1194
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: You want to trade up and you want to acquire

1195
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you know the Cowboys aren't taking one at ten,

1196
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: so you don't need to come up to ten. You

1197
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: go to eleven. See what I'm saying. I mean, you know,

1198
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: Cogol Cowboys aren't the team you You probably don't call

1199
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But it'll be interesting and if Justin Fields

1200
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: and I told you I had this process back in December,

1201
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: man I said, Man, Jack will fall on this process

1202
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: because it's just the way it happens. Man. Every year,

1203
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: it seems to be a not every year, but every

1204
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: few seasons there seems to be a black quarterback in

1205
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: the mix of the first round. He just gets obliterated

1206
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: through the scouting process and Justin Fields getting trashed. Dan

1207
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: Orlovski telling the Pat McAfee that he heard that Fields

1208
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: was quote last guy in, first guy out, and quote

1209
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: questions with Justin Fields work ethic and quote where's his

1210
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: desire to be a great quarterback? That these were things

1211
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: if people were telling him. Then he comes back out

1212
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: today with a very long, lengthy statement saying, Hey, I

1213
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: talked to Ohio State coaches and they dispute what was

1214
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: heard around here. But you're just still seeing Justin Fields

1215
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: take a hit. Now, if you're the Dallas Cowboys, this

1216
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: could play to your benefit. Maybe somebody does want to

1217
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: come to ten to get Justin Fields. We have seen

1218
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick in play. If you want a quarterback,

1219
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was a ten Okay, Kansas City went from

1220
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: twenty seven to ten with the Buffalo Bills in order

1221
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: to get Patrick Mahomes, and the Bills ended up getting

1222
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: a first round pick the next year. And then the

1223
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: pick they used the twenty seven it was Tredavious White.

1224
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: What a great pick that turned out to be a trade.

1225
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: It turned out to be for the Buffalo Bills. Then

1226
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: the other ten pick we saw was Josh Rosen, where

1227
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: Arizona went up to go get him and they selected

1228
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: him from UCLA. Ended up not working out because the

1229
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: very next year they decided to go ahead and when

1230
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: they had the number one pick and they took Kyler Murray.

1231
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: But we have seen ten in play, so how far

1232
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: how far did the Cowboys want to find? That could

1233
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: be that to me, could become the thing. If there's

1234
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: a trade in play, how far do you fall? The

1235
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: Bears could be there at twenty looking for something, The

1236
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: Patriots at fifteen could be looking for something. The Raiders,

1237
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 1: I think they married seventeen, they could be looking for something.

1238
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: So there's some teams that couldn't make a move. Before

1239
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: the Championshisco made the trade. I thought, hey, maybe they

1240
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: could do something here, and they did. But they went

1241
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: all the way the three. So we'll see, man, this

1242
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: thing and this thing. If they're a cowboy finger, why

1243
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: this wide open? It could be a possibility. I mean,

1244
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: you look at if the Jets decide to hold on

1245
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: to Sam Donald and just get you know, options around him,

1246
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: get weapons around him, you could see one of these

1247
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks dropped, you know, a Trey Lance or Justin Fields

1248
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: dropped all the way to ten. But I'm surprised, I'm remarkable.

1249
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: You were completely right about this about how Fields would

1250
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: get tracked. And I was just like wow, like I'm watching, yes,

1251
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: being and watching all these things, and no matter what's

1252
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: going on, I've never seen somebody dropped so far when

1253
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: there's no games to be played, Like there's see, we've

1254
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: seen what his resume has. He's been to the college

1255
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: football playoffs two years back to back as the Ohio

1256
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: State starting quarterback. And it's just after the games of

1257
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: being played. You say, all right, he's the second best

1258
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: quarterback in his draft as soon as the games are done.

1259
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't see how he's dropped. I've seen some reports

1260
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: where he's beep down and maybe pick fifteen, like you said,

1261
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: pick fifteen with the Patriots. So I don't see how

1262
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: someone drops that far when there's no games being played.

1263
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: But like you said, it's just this is how it

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Speaker 1: is nowadays. Hey man, I go back to when Teddy

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater was criticized for his hands. Oh, Teddy Bridger, he

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Speaker 1: got small hand, got small hands, and I remember Gil

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Speaker 1: Brand had tweeted something out about the hands. And then

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Speaker 1: there was another quarterback. I can't remember the quarterbacks name,

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Speaker 1: but the quarterback ended up having the same amount of hands,

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Speaker 1: the same the same hand size, I should say, and

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Speaker 1: they were like, yo, hands were good. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: And then Bridgewater and his mom, I guess his mom

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Speaker 1: was his agent, and so he got docked on that

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Speaker 1: and people like his pro day wasn't good that he

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Speaker 1: wore the glove. I mean, it was a bunch of

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Speaker 1: stuff on Bridgewater where this young man they ended up

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Speaker 1: getting run down and and it was crazy. It was

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Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. So, um, I'm not shocked. We saw what

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Speaker 1: happened with Deshaun Watson. Who else got hit in this

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Speaker 1: process here a couple of years ago. So it was

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater Watson, it was another it was another black quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and it's escaping my mind right now. But but we've

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Speaker 1: seen this happen and it's just what it is. And

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields, I told you it was going to be

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Speaker 1: a guy that got hit. I remember telling Pat Doney

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Speaker 1: my weekend guy over NBC five, and he didn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: About Fields, I was like, dude, just watch this process

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Speaker 1: is going to kill him because it normally does. And

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Speaker 1: now we see a guy like Matt Jones rising up

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Speaker 1: super high like we saw Mitchell Trubisky. So this is

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Speaker 1: this process can be cold, and you just gotta hope

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Speaker 1: that you don't fall in the in the crosshairs of

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Speaker 1: it because it doesn't make sense. It didn't make sense

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson. The very things that Deshaun Watson was

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Speaker 1: criticized for his senior year for interceptions by Todd McShay

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Speaker 1: were excused by Todd McShay when Sam Darnold came out.

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Speaker 1: It's like both guys were asked to do a lot

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Speaker 1: by their by their coaching staff and it resulted in picks.

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Speaker 1: But the coaches were like, hey man, look um, we

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Speaker 1: don't care. Just just just just stay you know, just

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Speaker 1: do your thing. We don't care about the picks. Just

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Speaker 1: you know, it was all on you. So it's a process.

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Speaker 1: It is. It's tough, man, It's tough. John Finds seems booked.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback Doug Williams talks about, Uh, these these instances

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Speaker 1: in these cases for these quarterbacks, man, and it could

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Speaker 1: be an unfair process. And there's gonna be some other

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Speaker 1: players to get run down as well. This is what happens.

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Speaker 1: It's time to the year. Guys get run down. But

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Speaker 1: turn on the tape, is what I just simply say, Man,

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Speaker 1: turn on the tape and if you just it, Fields,

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Speaker 1: I feel for him. From that standpoint, you're also getting

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Speaker 1: hit for Dwayne haskins failures. You're not Dwayne Haskins. To'd

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Speaker 1: be like, you know, how come Ohio State quarterbacks don't

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Speaker 1: do anything well until Patrick until Patrick Mahomes came along?

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Speaker 1: To anybody in Texas exam was anybody producing anything from

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State until Dak Prescott came along. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: it could be an unfair process. So, uh, it is

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Speaker 1: what it is, man, it is what it is. But

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Speaker 1: uh too, it's tripped man. So I feel for Fields.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, the hour has flown by here, Happy East

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Speaker 1: year to you and the Church family. Chris, be my appreciation. Man.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Always crush it making sure we get

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Speaker 1: on the air. To everyone who watched, we really, really

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Speaker 1: really do appreciate it. Uh you know what, tell your

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Speaker 1: friends about the players Lives. We appreciate it and we

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Speaker 1: will catch you next week. I'm new, restructed, buried Church.

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