WEBVTT - Takeaways from the 2026 Open Championship with Trevor Immelman 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.760 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.880 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.920 And when I find my ball in a bright egg 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.600 Frida egg Frida, egg Frida egg. 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.280 Brid egg lie, I'm about ready to run off the 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:14.080 golf course. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.600 Welcome back to the Friday Golf Podcast. I am your host, 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.160 Sandy Johnson, and uh, what a tournament. The Open Championship 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.360 is concluded, our major championship season on the men's side 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.600 is over, and Ryan fox is the champion Golfer of 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:59.400 the year. Uh. Foxy played just an outstanding gutty back 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:04.400 dine to beat a number of competitors coming down the 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.680 stretch after Cam Young posted a number and kind of 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:13.360 surprisingly was the number to beat at nine under, Foxy 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.720 kind of outdueled the likes of Sam Burns, Scottie Scheffler, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:22.400 Seawoo Kim down the stretch to win his first major championship. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.800 Having gotten to know Foxy a little bit, this was 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.080 an awesome win. He came on the podcast The Friday 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.720 Golf Podcast two years ago in twenty twenty four, when 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.080 he was playing his first year out on the PGA Tour. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.920 Is a great guy. Wonderful guy. Definitely one of the 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:47.640 good guys in just his general story of getting into 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:51.520 the game late and being this late bloomer who grinded 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.320 his way up was really endearing. And to see him 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.040 play the back nine of a lifetime to get it 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:02.280 done at a very very challenging Royal Birkdale. I think 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.639 we saw when the wind got up, with the firm 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.760 and fast conditions, that was a lot of golf course 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:12.119 to deal with. On Sunday Congress to Ryan Fox, I'm 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.720 joined today by Trevor Immelman. It'll be our final installment 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.640 of the Majors podcasts of the year. We'll probably do 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.520 something around the President's Cup, which is coming to Chicago 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.680 and Medina. As always, big thanks to Trevor, the CBS's 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:31.600 lead analyst, for joining us and breaking down these major championships. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:36.400 It's always fun to chat with Trevor. Before we get 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.400 to Trevor Immelman, let's talk about our friends at Mercedes Benz. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:45.560 They were our sponsor for the Open Championship week and 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.920 they've got a wonderful array of automobiles that you can 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:55.400 choose from, especially their SUVs, from compact to Powerhouse. Mercedes 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.560 Benz offers a variety of SUVs, each with flowing lines 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:04.799 and ice edges, expertly balancing elegance with aerodynamics. 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How do you do 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.040 that with just an iPad? 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.960 Well, if you, I mean, if you want me to 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.400 take you inside my life in the booth, I do 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.599 have a computer that I do not own. It's linked 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:52.239 up that CBS links up for me to all the 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.679 shot link and you know, all the different stats stuff, 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.200 and so I operate on that during the show. And 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.560 then I have have an iPad to my right that 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.560 has the bios of everybody in the field and all 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.120 my different notes on all those guys. And then I 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.599 have another iPad to my left that I keep just 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.719 on how the course is playing, so I know exactly 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.600 which holes are playing hard, which are playing easy, which 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:26.200 ones are gettable, and so I operate between those three 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.719 along with the notes on paper. It's old school, Andy. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.400 I like to go old school. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.160 I like writing stuff down too. I retain information when 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.200 I write stuff down, but I don't do it nearly enough. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.679 Hence why my wife's always wondering why I forget things, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.800 but I am I'm curious. What did the Ryan fox 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.440 file look like before yesterday. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.000 Well, you know, I've known Foxy for a long time, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:02.640 playing on the tp Will Tour together and that was 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.400 sort of towards the end of my career as he 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.960 was coming through. I mean, you guys have told the 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.760 story very well of his late start in golf and 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.720 when he turned pro and as he started breaking through 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.039 on the world stage. Obviously have had a lot of 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.640 dealings with him as he's been so so so close 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.320 to making the international team a couple of times, and 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.919 actually spoke to him last week at the Scottish Open, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.799 spent a few minutes with him as he was heading 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:36.839 to his tea time. Gosh, that must have been Saturday, 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.840 and then chatted again with him last night. I mean, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.960 this is a guy that you know, he comes from 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:49.160 great Stock. Yeah, I'm not quite sure that American fans 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:55.240 quite understand what a legend his father is and was 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.160 played fly half, which is number ten for the All Black. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.520 They broke my heart my whole childhood, his dad did 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.880 because he was just so good. I mean, when you 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:13.720 look in rugby terms, Ryan's dad is kind of you know, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.680 he's up there. You know, he's up there in the 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.640 Brady Jordan Tiger Woods type of mold, Wayne Gretzky mold. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:26.520 I mean, this guy was an absolute superstar. And so 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.560 it's really really cool when you look at their family 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.240 history of his grandfather being a New Zealand cricketer, his 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:38.120 dad just being an absolute stud and now Ryan right 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.360 up alongside him winning the Open Championship. I mean, this 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.400 is a pretty cool story right here. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.640 I mean it's amazing. And I think you see this 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.720 with with kids of legends, you know, I think this 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.240 happened with like Michael Jordan's kids. Is like you know, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.160 when you're on the court, you get the other teams, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.720 the other player's best shots. And you know, for Foxy, 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.680 I did realize this until yesterday. But you know, he 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:09.200 on the rugby I think it's a pitch right field. Okay, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.320 only just only a football. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.800 Pitch World Cup too much. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.360 On the rugby field. I just was trying to use 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.200 the right term of a sport. On the rugby field, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.760 he was targeted and he had a series of concussions 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.240 as a kid, and then you know, caused him to 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.200 give up the sport and then you know he he 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.880 he talked about this on our podcast a couple of 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.840 years ago, but he's like, I was looking for some 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:43.559 competitive outlet, so I always like golf, so I decided 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.560 to play golf. And it's like, you think about that, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.400 He's age eighteen and he just decides he's going to 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.800 play competitive golf, and sure enough, now twenty one years later, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:09:01.360 he's a major champion. It's a pretty unbelievable story just 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:05.040 about you know, there's so many layers to it, right. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:11.160 Yeah, for sure. And you know, you look at his 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.200 journey to here. I mean, he rarely has done it, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.080 done it the proper way, done it the hard way. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.480 He's had to earn every little thing. And you look 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.200 at his major championship record. I mean, if I'm not mistaken, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.160 Typer sixteenth in the Open in twenty nineteen was his 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:33.400 best major championship finished. Before this week and the last 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.880 few seasons, we've got to know him a bit more 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:40.040 here in the in the US, shall I say, the 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.679 fans over here have become more accustomed to him. The 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.720 initial win at Myrtle Beach and then the marathon playoff 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:53.760 with Sam Burns in Canada, eventually hitting that unbelievable fairway 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.360 would shot to close that out a couple of years ago. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.720 So he's been on the rise and it's kind of 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.200 fun to have. You were talking about old school with 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:06.160 the computers earlier, but it's kind of fun and refreshing 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.600 to see again. You know, this is sort of the 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:13.360 progression that people used to take to where you would 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.320 mature and you would start to have your best stuff 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.600 in your mid mid to late thirties, and that's kind 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:25.440 of the road that he's taken, and it'll be fun 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.920 to see, you know, what happens from here. But regardless, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.400 what a great cherry on the cake for him to 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.319 get this win and the way that he went about it, 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.160 the way he played the majority of the weekend, I mean, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.319 sixty twos seemed to be out there throughout the week, 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.559 but shoots the great third round to get into position. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.360 And then the way he played that second nine, I 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.520 mean from thirteen to eighteen was you know, he went 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.360 out and won this open. He didn't back into it. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.080 Nobody handed it to him. You know, you could you 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.560 could make a case for Cam Young having that stumble 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.439 at the end, but eighteen is such a difficult hole. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.160 But the way Ryan finished over those last five or 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:17.400 six holes was was pretty stiller and gutsy. And I 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.920 enjoyed watching that, you know. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.280 I there's so many things that hit on and I 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.080 think what you said, the old school path to getting here. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:33.640 He starts on the Australian Tour almost quits there. You know, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.520 he talked about that in his post round press conference 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.560 about how he almost was going to quit, and then 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.960 his dad caddy for him and he's like, this is 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.720 supposed to be fun. Why don't we go have some 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.960 fun this week? And sure enough he kept his card 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.400 years and years on the DPEAT World Tour, and then 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.360 he eventually comes over here and as you reference, you know, 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.000 not you know, about a year a little bit more 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.240 than a year ago. He's playing alternate field events. You know, 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.360 he's playing the he won the Myrtle Beach which is 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.720 a which is an opposite field event. He wins Canada. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.640 Then you know, right after that, but you know, this 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.240 is a guy who you know, it wasn't it's just 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.240 not been an easy path and I think, like I 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.839 think what showed on the weekend was that grit. I mean, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.440 especially down the stretch that I think that was a 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:31.400 the you know, I think we could get to accustomed 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.760 to saying, oh, that was a bad break. But I 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.959 believe he got dealt a couple of really bad breaks 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:44.200 at extraordinarily crucial times. And I think a lot of 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.520 players after the breakout fifteen where the ball hits the 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.679 you know, he's a foot from hitting from a perfect shot, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.240 the ball hits the face and bounces back and leaves 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.920 him no swing to where he has to chip out sideways. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.360 I think that moment breaks a lot of guys. And 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.800 this is but this is someone who has I mean, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:10.560 I could only imagine the conversations that that someone that 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.840 has gone through what Ryan Fox has gone through to 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.920 get to where he is, has had in his head 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.400 late night in some motel room in rural Australia thinking 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.480 about what the hell am I doing right now? Or 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.040 a hotel room in Thailand on the DP World Tour 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.880 by himself, you know what he's thinking. And that that 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.679 to me showed up with just the way he handled 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.800 what happened to him on the golf course coming down 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:37.319 the stretch. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.920 Yeah, I mean, you look at some of the winds. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:45.679 He's won twenty times worldwide now, but obviously I mean 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:50.480 some of them, a lot of them. Yeah, and some 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.360 of them you know you may have never heard of. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.640 But it's just slipping stones as he's you know, honing 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.920 his craft and learning how to play as a professional. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.600 And then you know, and then the big one start 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:10.199 to flow. You know, the Irish Open, well there is 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:15.160 lost in a playoff, but the BMW at Wentworth Alfred 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:21.400 Dunhill links. You know Myrtle Beach you mentioned earlier. I 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.080 mean that might be the secret for everybody in twenty 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.400 twenty seven because I believe Aaron Rye played at Myrtle 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:32.840 Beach this year and then won the PGA Championship and 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.800 so you know, guys may want to add that to 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.080 their schedule next year. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:41.480 But opposite field events because you had Windham before LACC too. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.120 Yeah yeah, I forgot which one do you won? 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.720 Yeah, that's a good point. But you know it's funny 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:55.000 when you talk about the bad breaks, and I always 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:59.720 find that quite interesting. You know, everybody knows where these 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:04.120 pots bunkers are. They're like magnets. I would love to 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.160 hear from him, and I was texting back and forth 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.400 with him last night. Obviously he was super busy with 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.840 everything that was going on, might have. 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.560 Gotten a few you've gotten text back, a few glasses 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.680 of wine deep Yeah, as was going to be flying. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.480 It seems like that Clara jug was filled with some 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.320 grape early on, which is good and as it should be. 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.040 But I would love to find out from him that 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:32.920 shot on fifteen. You know, when you look at where 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.240 the whole location was in the back left and the 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.280 wind blowing across that hole. And he's the type of 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.800 guy that would give you a very honest answer. I mean, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.160 he just he tells you exactly how it is. He 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.680 doesn't waste any time trying to sugarcoat things. I wonder 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.360 if he pulled that iron shot or not. You know, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.840 it's such a difficult shot with the wind whipping across, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.120 the whole location is tucked back left. You know, oh 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.160 you've got the DP pot bunker in front. And really 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.640 so the play to me on such a difficult hole 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.560 is more the type of shot that Sewu Kim hit 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.840 a group or two in front, where you play it 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.560 out more to the middle of the green because you 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.240 know you're going to land it in the front portion, 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:20.160 which brings that pot bunker into play and so you 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.640 play out more thirty thirty five feet to the right. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.800 We saw a couple guys take it on, a couple 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:29.120 get fortunate, and Ryan's ball just hits on the face 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.080 and kicks into the back edge. I'd love to hear 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.800 from him if he pulled that slightly or not. But yeah, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:42.600 you're one hundred percent correct. Didn't moan about it, didn't 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.560 shake his head and stomp around, got right in there 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.040 with the lob wedge, played it out backwards and then 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.360 a brilliant up and down to stay in it, and 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.520 then also the bounce back after that. I mean, he's 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.280 birdied thirteen fourteen, saves that bogie, and then on sixteen, 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.000 which was a tough hole, okay, and just flags it 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.919 there and converts the putt, you know. And then seventeen 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.000 was another one. He decides to go with the driving iron. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.200 He has the ability to rarely flat it down, and 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.200 we saw how burnt out and firm the fairways were, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.280 and that long iron just trickles into the front of 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.280 that bunker at three point thirty or whatever it was. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.600 I mean, how good, How good was the second shot 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:30.159 out of the bunker with the way the stance was, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.920 How awkward. It was how much he had to bend down. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.359 He's got a little bit of lip in front of him. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:41.440 You know. You think back to the shot that Cam 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.760 Young hit on the eighteenth out of the pot bunker. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.640 Ryan could have fatted that and not got far enough 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.280 down there, or stayed in the rough. He could have 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.679 scalded into the lip. You know, when the balls that 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.080 far below your feet and you're getting into such an 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:01.560 awkward set up position, you could catch the puzzle on 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.679 that shot. You know, really there's a whole host of 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:10.280 things that could happen. But his hand eye coordination is 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.760 so sharp that he advanced it quite far down there 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.720 and eventually had a pretty good look at birdie. So 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:23.120 to me, that was just as impressive as fifteen, kind 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:27.160 of getting out of jail a little bit. And then 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.680 that eighteenth hole, I mean, that eighteenth hole at Royal 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.920 Birkdale to me is one of the better finishing holes 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.199 in tournament golf. I mean, never mind just majors. I 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:43.800 mean it just asks great questions of you. You know, 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.280 with the technology these days and as far as what 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:52.040 these guys hit it, they're not always forced to go 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.720 ahead and pull the driver. Now you can lay back 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.440 on eighteen and take at least a couple bunkers out 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.360 of it, But then you're going to be hitting such 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.040 a long club in for your second. And so if 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.720 you do go ahead and decide to pull that driver, man, 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.640 you do not have much space there, particularly with how 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.879 firm the fairways were. And he decided that he was 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.440 going to take the opportunity to try and win the tournament. 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.800 And wow, how good are those three shots that he's 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.800 hit on the eighteenth? I mean, that is that's what 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.159 you dream of when you're a little kid. Is finishing 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:30.600 off any tournament, the club championship, a game against your mate, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:35.240 you never mind a major, and the Open. To finish 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.199 the eighteenth hole like that and win by one is 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.520 that's a story he's going to be telling for for 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:42.560 many years to come. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.280 I think you hit on you know, seventeen, the bunker shot. 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.480 You know, it's hard to pick out one because he 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.920 hit so many great ones from really thirteen on. Yeah, 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:59.000 just spectacular shot making all the way in. But that 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.359 one on seventeen, you know, you illustrated how many things 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:09.480 could go wrong with that, And as he was acutely 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:13.000 aware of all of that, also you know, I'm sure 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.440 of all the things that could go wrong in his 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.119 ability to get it down to where he had one 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.520 hundred and forty four yards I think it was, and 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.600 he's hitting a wedge all of a sudden and convert 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:27.000 taking what happened, you know, where man, this driving iron 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.680 rolled out in an inconceivable number and into this bunker 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.679 that I didn't. I'm hitting the iron so it doesn't 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.880 get there, you know, effectively, and it gets in there, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.919 and then he gets it to where he generated. I 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.320 think like one of the things is that he generated 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:48.880 another really comfortable look and he had the really similar 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:53.480 distance looks on sixteen, seventeen and eighteen, and there's something 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.840 about like getting through seventeen after that t shot. He 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.160 put himself in a stressful situation. But say he had 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.600 just been able to just shovel it out a little 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.040 bit and he had two hundred yards into seventeen, it 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.080 all of a sudden would have he would have like 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.480 accumulated stress there. It would have been, you know, he's 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.600 probably hitting a big lag putt to make his par 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.399 and he's scooting out of there. But I think it 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.320 almost put him in an attacking mindset where it's like, oh, 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.000 I just missed that birdie on seventeen, Let's go get 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:29.760 it on eighteen. You know, I thought, the way this 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.560 is never it's never going to look when when people 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.280 look back on his round, They're never going to look 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.080 and be like, oh, what a great round of golf 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:43.040 that sixty eight was. Because the number with the with 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.240 the other numbers that people shot during the week, whether 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.959 it was you know, the sixty two's that the sixty 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.240 two he shot on Saturday, or the sixty twos from Friday, 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.320 or even Cam Young who went out two hours ahead 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.000 of him, his you know sixty four that he shouts 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.600 are all going to obscure. The other piece of this 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:09.119 is that in those last I don't know five groups, 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:13.000 nobody put a real number up on the board. Nobody 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.919 really went out and shot a number. And on the 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:20.040 back nine it opened up where it was like anybody's game, 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.199 and this guy went out and made four birdies on 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.920 a very very hard back nine. I mean, there were 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.359 so many crosswinds, the course is super firm, and the 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.200 wind finally kicks up. It was the hardest conditions of 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.880 the tournament and he played. I mean, everybody's gonna look 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.600 at the sixty two's everything. This was the nine of 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:39.240 the tournament. 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.919 Yeah, I totally agree with you. Look, when you are 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:47.639 in the final pairing in the final round of a 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:53.240 major championship, it's the pressure in the heat and the 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:58.040 exposure and the spotlight that is on you, you know, 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:04.360 increases dramatically compare to if you were someone like even 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.159 a Cam Young who went out there a couple hours before. 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.000 I mean, Cam Young is going to the first he 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.000 knowing that he only really has one option on the 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:14.840 day he had a bit of a rough third day. 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.560 He only has one option. He's got to go out 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.400 there and put his foot on the gas and hope 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:23.280 things fall his way and have a chance with a 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.800 handful of holes to play. He did that and he 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.119 deserves a ton of credit for that round of golf. 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:35.000 But total different type of pressure that Cam Young had 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.840 when he started his final round and when Burns and 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:43.159 Fox he started their final round. So you know, that 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.520 just highlights everything that you've just said. I mean, for 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.639 him to go out there and play that well, shoot 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:54.560 a great sixty eight and get it done, you gotta 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.199 tip your cap to him. And really that's the advantage 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:04.000 of being in the final or the penultimate pairings is 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.920 you know everyone in front of you, you can kind 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.440 of get a feel for or see what they're doing, 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.080 how they've finished, you can get a feel for what 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.520 it's going to take, what the number is. And the 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:19.439 beauty about Roal Birkdale is you've got to wait a 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.159 long time for those part fives to roll around. But 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.600 when they roll around, all of a sudden, you get 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:28.240 a couple of chances late in your round where eagle 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.800 is in play, and so if you are a stroke 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.800 or two behind, you know that there's still some time 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.600 to catch up. And it was fun. I mean the 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.360 last hour or so, it really was was great watching 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:48.760 to see if anybody could could catch or tie Cam Young. 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.879 I mean, it would have been fascinating. Can you imagine 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.800 if he won, finishing like two hours and twenty minutes 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.520 before the leaders, that would have been been quite something. 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.560 I mean, I can't really remember himba that happening in 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.239