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Speaker 1: Hello, it's Richard Maclin Smith here, not the impostor you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to on the podcasts the real one. Join

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Speaker 1: me for Unexplained TV at YouTube dot com Forward Slash

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Speaker 1: Unexplained pod. It could be argued that our ability to

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Speaker 1: comprehend our own death and the fear of such an idea,

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Speaker 1: is the very thing that makes us the conscious, self

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Speaker 1: aware creatures that we consider ourselves to be. That only

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Speaker 1: in understanding our lives as something in opposition to death

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Speaker 1: do we develop a concept of the self. You might

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Speaker 1: A recent Gallup poll conducted across sixty one countries around

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Speaker 1: in an after life, and yet for many of those

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Speaker 1: same people, the idea of death as a final end

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Speaker 1: for us and the ones we love is still the

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Speaker 1: greatest of fears. We need only witness the ferocity with

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Speaker 1: which people will instinctively fight for their survival, even if

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Speaker 1: they believe heaven awaits them on the other side, to

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Speaker 1: understand how potent this fear can be. This instinct heart

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Speaker 1: wired into the brain's hypothalamus, suggests from a biological perspective,

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Speaker 1: at least that, despite what we hope may await us

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Speaker 1: after we die, that our bodies seem very reluctant to

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Speaker 1: find out exactly what that might be. All stories, says

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Speaker 1: Ernest Hemingway, are about death. What then, of the stories

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Speaker 1: we tell that go a little further. The first law

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Speaker 1: a closed system is constant. It can neither be destroyed

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Speaker 1: nor created, merely changing from one form to another. If

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Speaker 1: the universe is a closed system, as many scientists believe,

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Speaker 1: there is little dispute as to what fate awaits the

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Speaker 1: material of the body after death. Its constituent parts will

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Speaker 1: be broken down piece by peace, repurposed and reintegrated, never

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Speaker 1: disturbing the scales of the universal totality of energy. Perhaps

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Speaker 1: for the materialist, then this is satisfaction enough that we,

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Speaker 1: in some way or other, continue to exist long after

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Speaker 1: our bodies have decomposed. The idea of where we go

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Speaker 1: we being the slightly more abstract and intangible notion of

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Speaker 1: the very nature of consciousness, and one that has been

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Speaker 1: explored in stories told across every community and culture from

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Speaker 1: as far back as we know. You're listening to Unexplained

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Speaker 1: and I'm Richard MacLean Smith. Death, as an ancient Greek,

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Speaker 1: provided you had received a burial, would supposedly be followed

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Speaker 1: would then be led by Hades to the entrance of

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Speaker 1: the underworld. From here, your soul, taking the form of

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Speaker 1: your living world self, would be ferried by Charon across

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Speaker 1: the Acharn River, where, under the watchful eye of Cerberus,

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Speaker 1: the three headed hound of Hades, the judges of the

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Speaker 1: underworld would decide your fate. For the virtuous heroes and semigods,

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Speaker 1: the golden fields of Elysium would await. For those unlucky

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Speaker 1: enough to be judged sufficiently undeserving, it would be to

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Speaker 1: be dispatched. For. The ancient Egyptians, differing traditions offered a

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Speaker 1: which details a horrifying and complex journey into Duart. The

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Speaker 1: Egyptian underworld. Provided your soul was able to survive a

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Speaker 1: the goddess my arts, white ostrich feather of Truth. If

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Speaker 1: of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, stories of the afterlife follow

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Speaker 1: will take potentially infinite forms as it is reborn ceaselessly

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Speaker 1: all things. Buddhist teachings of Samsara have suggested that such

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Speaker 1: a process could allow for the remembrance of previous lives,

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Speaker 1: as jattismara. Although traditionally the preserve of great Buddhist saints

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Speaker 1: using hypnosis to recover these apparent memories. Although common in

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Speaker 1: Many accounts have been dismissed as simple cases of false

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Speaker 1: Ryan from Muskogee in Oklahoma who was ten at the time,

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Speaker 1: It began with a nightmare when, at the age of four,

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Speaker 1: other man Ryan had pointed to was indeed called George.

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Speaker 1: Martin was also found to have lived on not Rock exactly,

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Speaker 1: It would prove to be one of the most compelling

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Speaker 1: At seventeen hundred hours, the ship's engine gurgles and sputters

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Speaker 1: direction of Hartleypool action stations. Screams, parks, glowing embers are

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