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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 3: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 3: a sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 2: You don't do that with your mouth, Vely. That's good. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Well this is fun. We've got coming on right now.

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Speaker 4: We have James and Shawn James and Sean gun and

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Speaker 4: the cool last name. Did James direct the episode pow

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Speaker 4: is In? I mean the episode the Guardians Guardians?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I'm not sure. Yeah, we got

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Speaker 3: to ask him that. Uh yeah, he's got Superman coming out.

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Speaker 3: He's an incredible director. I think he was married to

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Speaker 3: Jenna Fisher for a minute, who I worked with. Oh yeah, yep.

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Speaker 3: And I'm excited to learn about how you know. And

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Speaker 3: I think Sean has been in a bunch of his movies.

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Speaker 3: He's an actor. I think let's just bring him on

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Speaker 3: and talk to him.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Hey, what's up. What are you? I'm good? Good there,

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Speaker 6: Sean Gunn.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Sean.

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Speaker 3: Hey, So you guys, you guys grew up with the

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Speaker 3: coolest last name ever. I mean Jesus a lot of

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Speaker 3: pressure to become cool.

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Speaker 5: Well, there was a source of a lot of puns

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Speaker 5: in grade school and so forth. You know Tommy gunn

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Speaker 5: bb gun, ray gun everything, but y son of a Gun.

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Speaker 7: Was a really hilarious one.

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Speaker 8: Ye.

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Speaker 5: Hey, we have some connections, guys, connections, you know. So

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Speaker 5: I'm you know, we're friends with I'm friends with Meredith

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Speaker 5: and Wyatt. Yes, because Meredith was in a movie that

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Speaker 5: I produced called bright Burn and she's lovely and I

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Speaker 5: met Wyatt through her.

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Speaker 6: And then Oliver, did we meet one time with Kurt uh?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because did you directed his guardians?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I directed his guardians and we met in passing somewhere

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Speaker 5: for two seconds.

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Speaker 3: And so but then you were also married to Jenna.

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Speaker 6: And I was also married to Jenna, who I.

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Speaker 5: Worked with for two Yes, that's right, that's right, yes,

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Speaker 5: so yes, so, yes, So we have many connections.

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Speaker 3: A lot of connections.

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Speaker 8: Jenna and I.

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Speaker 6: Are still very close.

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Speaker 5: She's a great person we have I was talking to

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Speaker 5: her yesterday for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know the buck all the bucks yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's all the Saint Louis connections. Everyone knows everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a really big family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a big family.

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Speaker 5: There are well, there's four siblings between me and Sean.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're bookends.

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Speaker 5: There's six and a sister who passed away, so there

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Speaker 5: would have been five between us and uh yeah yeah,

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Speaker 5: there's there's seven years between us.

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Speaker 6: We had eight kids or six kids, seven kids in

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Speaker 6: seven years.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have them, my parents had them.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, so let's get into that. Okay, go ahead, Kay.

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Speaker 2: So what so like, so, so, what what was your family?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 2: What are your mom and your dad?

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 2: How old for so, how old was your mom when

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Speaker 2: she had Are you the first one?

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Speaker 5: I'm the first one? She was twenty five when I

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Speaker 5: was born, and so you know.

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Speaker 8: She was Yeah, she was thirty three when I was born. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so by the time she was thirty thirty.

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Speaker 8: Three seven yeah, not quite sixty yeah yeah, not quite.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she was thirty a month yeah yeah, yeah, thirty

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all of us in that time.

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Speaker 5: We have two siblings that like my how far are

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Speaker 5: Patrick and then Beth are like eleven months?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're familiar with an Irish twin where there's if

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Speaker 7: there's less than twelve months that separates you know, siblings.

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Speaker 8: They call them an Irish twin.

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Speaker 7: My sister Beth is an Irish twin on both sides,

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Speaker 7: so god she So brother Prick was born, you know,

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Speaker 7: eleven months before her, and then our brother Brian was

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Speaker 7: born month was born ten months after her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she was born in February, and then Brian, who

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Speaker 5: was born with a twin had was born in December.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there were women.

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Speaker 4: Women who have families like this are just they're like superhero.

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Speaker 4: I can't even imagine, Like I have three, right, I

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Speaker 4: couldn't imagine having ye then and then raising them.

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Speaker 3: Well, at some point, I'm Deshaun, did you eventually have

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Speaker 3: like just fend for yourself. It's like I've done this

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Speaker 3: a million times. Like you're good.

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 7: At some point, you know, there's like a little bit

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Speaker 7: of a pack mentality takes over and we're like our

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Speaker 7: our mom is doing so much work raising everybody, but

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Speaker 7: we're But my older siblings also started to help share

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Speaker 7: the load. So I'm also getting you know, help and

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Speaker 7: advice and things like this from all of all of

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Speaker 7: my older siblings. So yeah, it's not like I felt

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Speaker 7: neglected by my parents, but I also I felt very

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Speaker 7: much uh you know that that my older siblings were

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Speaker 7: very much part of Were.

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Speaker 3: There some older siblings that were more nurturing than others?

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Speaker 8: You know, you want me to name names.

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Speaker 6: From most in order, most of who you love the most.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's start with who who did not give a

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Speaker 3: ship about Sean.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to say with the worst.

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Speaker 7: He's the next he's the next oldest from me, so he,

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Speaker 7: you know, like he's not doing his share of the

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Speaker 7: work raising me. If anything, he's picking on me too much.

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Speaker 7: But no, you know, honestly, it's like the it's it's

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Speaker 7: very interesting being the youngest in a in a big

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Speaker 7: family like this, because I have little different things that

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Speaker 7: I've that I've learned from each one of my siblings,

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Speaker 7: and and you know, I could, I could go through

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Speaker 7: and parse it all out, but I feel like there

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Speaker 7: are elements of all of them in my personality, which

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Speaker 7: is sort of a strange feeling.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: You're a you're a mix imamiz well line of work

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Speaker 4: where your parents in.

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Speaker 5: My dad was a lawyer and my mother was a homemaker.

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Speaker 5: My mother took glean the house obsessively. With six kids,

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Speaker 5: it was always completely spotless. Wow, and my next door

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Speaker 5: neighbor never saw my mother without full makeup on until.

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Speaker 6: She was probably in her sixties.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, so mom was on fire.

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Speaker 2: Mom's type like was very structured households.

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Speaker 5: Uh No, not really, because we kind of were left

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Speaker 5: to our own devices. We just kind of did what

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Speaker 5: to grow up in because we were each other. You know,

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Speaker 5: there were six kids. We were very close, and we

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Speaker 5: played together a lot, and we laughed together a lot.

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Speaker 5: And I think other families are sort of competitive in

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Speaker 5: terms of you know, academics or sports or things like that,

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Speaker 5: and for us, it really was just making each other laugh, Like.

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Speaker 3: That was humor was a very big, sort of important piece.

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Speaker 5: Incredibly that that was absolutely all we did was make each.

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Speaker 7: Other were and and and sharing pop culture, sharing movies,

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Speaker 7: sharing TV music, sharing TV shows and yes, to repeat

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Speaker 7: what James said, It's like, I think if there was

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Speaker 7: anything really unique about our family, it's that we, for

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Speaker 7: whatever reason, we were not competitive with one another and

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Speaker 8: I think we always rooted for one another completely.

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Speaker 3: What do you what would you attribute that to or

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Speaker 3: is it just genetics in the way it is or

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Speaker 3: was there something else.

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Speaker 5: I don't know for Sean, but for me, my dad

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Speaker 5: and his siblings were a little bit competitive and I

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Speaker 5: and it made me incredibly sad because they were this

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Speaker 5: lawyers and my dad was very successful, and they were

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Speaker 5: all different levels of success. But it made me feel sad,

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Speaker 5: and I think that affected me from an early age

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Speaker 5: that I just never felt like that with with my

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Speaker 7: And also to like I agree with that, and I'm

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Speaker 7: not even even though my dad was part of it,

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure he liked it so much being competitive

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Speaker 7: in his own kids, you know that. You know, our

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Speaker 7: parents were really were really cool. They They've had a lot,

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Speaker 7: they had a lot to deal with, and they made

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Speaker 7: a lot of mistakes. But I think they learned from

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Speaker 2: And I would assume that they were as funny as

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Speaker 2: as much as you guys wanted to make each other laugh.

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Speaker 5: Funny, my mom is very funny. Yeah, my mother's very funny.

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Speaker 5: She's she's really funny.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: My father was always funny. But my my father had

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Speaker 5: this big heart. He was just as a guy, and

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Speaker 5: he had a lot of issues growing up, and he

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Speaker 5: how I think he impressed me the most. Was somebody

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Speaker 3: Got interesting changed that like later on in his life,

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Speaker 6: In his life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he got he quit drinking at a

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Speaker 5: and he you know, he started out very closed minded

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting, like as a child of someone who

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Speaker 3: you get older, how to relate to your that that parent,

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Speaker 3: you know, because you want to be a nurture, you

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Speaker 3: want to help. At the same time, there might be

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Speaker 3: some disdain or some anger. Yeah, you know, Yeah, don't

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Speaker 3: know how I don't know how old you guys are.

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Speaker 5: Well, I got I got sober when I was very young,

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Speaker 5: and I went through rehab. And at that time, my

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Speaker 5: dad then had to be a part of like these

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Speaker 5: family groups and he would come in and Sean would

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Speaker 5: and uh, and that's my dad got then went through

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Speaker 5: rehab himself, and then my brother went through, and then

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Speaker 5: my other brother and so it was, you know, and

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Speaker 5: we've all nobody's ever relapsed and all this.

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Speaker 3: You sort of kicked that off, yes essentially.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: Pretty oh wait les, but that's like I said, but again,

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Speaker 4: that just shows like how close all of you are

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Speaker 4: that that you going through that process was became your

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Speaker 4: dad kind of looking at himself and that must have been.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was.

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Speaker 5: I think it was also because my dad had quit

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Speaker 5: he was still using a ton of this.

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Speaker 6: Different parts of the personality spectrum.

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Speaker 4: But of course I was like you like, I just

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Speaker 4: oh my god, Like I was I started so young

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Speaker 4: that I think people think I'm like sixty five years exactly.

447
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Speaker 6: There are many actors your age getting their first stab intself.

448
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Speaker 4: I know, I mean, I know, I'm like it makes

449
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 4: me really happy, and like I was just thinking about

450
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 4: it today like that, I actually like my show did

451
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 4: really well, and I was like thank god, I'm still working,

452
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: Like I thinks, I'm just greatful that it's still going,

453
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Speaker 4: you know.

454
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Speaker 2: Okay, so what was so?

455
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Speaker 4: What was like did you have a definitive movie that

456
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: was like your all the kids were like like you

457
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: went home and like you pull, like your imagination went wild.

458
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Speaker 8: I love this question. It's so good because.

459
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Speaker 6: There's a couple of them. Yeah, yeah, there's a couple.

460
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Speaker 8: I mean, do you want to name it? Come to

461
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Speaker 8: mind for me?

462
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 6: Star Wars?

463
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, okay, that's yeah, I mean, come on, yeah,

464
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 5: of course I was.

465
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Speaker 8: I was jumping.

466
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Speaker 7: I had a few years from that, but because I

467
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 7: was I was three when Star Wars.

468
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Speaker 8: Okay, but yeah, but like yeah, Greece, Greece, Greece.

469
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because we used to perform summer nights and for

470
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Speaker 5: the family.

471
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah with me and my sister. Is kind of creepy.

472
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 6: But yeah, if.

473
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Speaker 7: You sip ahead a few years, yea like to win,

474
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Speaker 7: to win, you James, more of it like early teens,

475
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 7: but I was also getting a little older.

476
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 8: There's movies like The Flamingo Kid.

477
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and like Bertie and the Wanderers.

478
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 8: The Wanderers.

479
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, like these movies, I'm going more like artists, Like

480
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Speaker 7: what makes you want to be like like the the

481
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Speaker 7: oh that's art, you know, when you're like years old

482
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 7: and you're like, I'm looking at art.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, stand By Me was like I remember watching stand

484
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Speaker 4: By Well. First of all, I was in love with

485
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Speaker 4: every single one of those boys. But yeah, but I

486
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 4: just remember watching River Phoenix and I remember the scene

487
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Speaker 4: where he was crying about his life, and I was like,

488
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 4: I need to be in like a female.

489
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Speaker 3: Stand When were you old enough to appreciate the older,

490
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: classic incredible movies as a director and as an actor,

491
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: when you were watching for.

492
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Speaker 6: Me as a as a kid.

493
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Speaker 5: I remember watching on PBS when I was probably thirteen,

494
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Speaker 5: the hum Free Bogart Film Festival, and it played NonStop

495
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 5: over a weekend, and I watched it the whole thing

496
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 5: and fell in love with those older, you know, Humphrey

497
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Speaker 5: Bogart movies. And then that led into like Preston Sturges,

498
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 5: who I still would say is like my biggest influence.

499
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 5: And you know, all these you know, but also all

500
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Speaker 5: the Altman films, you know, Becave and Missus.

501
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 6: Miller Long Goodbye, all of that stuff.

502
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Speaker 5: We just we always had a love for that stuff

503
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 5: from a pretty young.

504
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Speaker 7: Age, I saw Chinatown and The Godfather, And when I

505
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Speaker 7: was like eight years old, I saw those movies because

506
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Speaker 7: my because I had the older siblings and I got

507
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Speaker 7: to got to see movies like that. And then by

508
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Speaker 7: the time I was just a little bit older, I

509
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 7: had siblings in college. When I was still in middle school,

510
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Speaker 7: and I was getting introduced to like Chaplain and Keaton

511
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Speaker 7: and Preston Sturges and and just always took on as

512
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Speaker 7: much as I could.

513
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Speaker 5: I think for me it was seeing Bonnie and Clyde

514
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 5: for the first time and it was on TV when

515
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: I was very young, and when they get you know,

516
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Speaker 5: rattled with bullets at the end of the movie spoiler.

517
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Speaker 6: Sorry I should have said that first.

518
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Speaker 1: I was like, holy cow, a movie can do anything.

519
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: It can end in any way, it can take any

520
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Speaker 1: twister turn because until then I had really only seen

521
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Speaker 1: Disney movies.

522
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Speaker 6: I don't know what my dad was even letting me

523
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Speaker 6: watch this movie for.

524
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Speaker 5: And it was just it was so incredible and so

525
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Speaker 5: Bonnie and Clyde was a huge one for me.

526
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Speaker 4: You know, so interesting, isn't it, Because like, movies can

527
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: completely change your life. I mean, I know that sounds

528
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: really dramatic, but I feel like it. It's like the

529
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: movies that really if you're a creative person and you

530
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Speaker 4: won't enter a world of a storytelling right, Like there

531
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Speaker 4: are certain like Bonnie and Clyde would have never been

532
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Speaker 4: that movie for me, right right, but it was for

533
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 4: but like for me, like when I saw you know,

534
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Speaker 4: Postcards from the Edge or Terms of Endearment, it was

535
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: like it was like, oh my god, this movie like

536
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: Terms of Endearment was like you can make stuff like that.

537
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 4: It's so hard to make people feel that way and

538
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: to have that emotional experience in a in a film.

539
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Speaker 6: You know me.

540
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Speaker 3: For me, it was like some like Summer School with

541
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Speaker 3: Mark Harmonds.

542
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Speaker 8: Can I make a detour? God? I don't know if

543
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Speaker 8: I say this, but I won't. I don't want to

544
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 8: name names.

545
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Speaker 7: But when I first moved to Hollywood, I like one

546
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 7: of the actors from that movie I bumped into in

547
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 7: the middle of the day in a bar and he

548
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 7: was really like, not in great shape, and he was

549
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 7: just talking about how Hollywood would spit me up and

550
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 7: swallow me out, me off and spit me out and

551
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 7: then I should quit now and move back to Chicago.

552
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Speaker 8: Mom one of the Summer School.

553
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Speaker 4: Funny.

554
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Speaker 8: Well, by the way, the Thing was a huge movie.

555
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Speaker 6: That's a big gun family movie. It's one of my

556
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Speaker 6: favorite movies.

557
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 3: Truly an incredible movie.

558
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 7: It's astonishing, and it's one that I saw when I

559
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 7: was like, I was just young enough that it made

560
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 7: a massive impression on me, but old enough that it

561
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Speaker 7: didn't scare the daylights out of me.

562
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Speaker 2: John Carpenter.

563
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Speaker 8: One of the amazing Yeah.

564
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to work with him when I first

565
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 5: came to town. My brother Brian and I pitched a

566
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Speaker 5: TV idea to John Carpenter that he wanted to do,

567
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: and I don't remember what happened. I got distracted and

568
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Speaker 5: do something else.

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Speaker 2: He was my first big audition.

570
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Speaker 7: I think it's one of those rare movies that that

571
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 7: holds up better is not only is a hold up,

572
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 7: it's almost better now than it was when it came out.

573
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, the themes in it are

574
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: are are ever green. You know, it's it's you will

575
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: never the themes of the thing, just that that those

576
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: can just play throughout time.

577
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: Just the increasing paranoia. Also also like hummorm you know,

578
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: also since if humor, that great like moment when the

579
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Speaker 4: head is, you know, crawl crawling across the floor and

580
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 4: the guy looks and goes, you gotta be.

581
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Speaker 3: You got so good?

582
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Speaker 4: Were you guys like us in the sense like you'd

583
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: get inspired and then you'd make your movies like did

584
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Speaker 4: you ever?

585
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

586
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: No, I started making movies when I was eleven. Yeah,

587
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Speaker 5: Sean was often the star of these movies.

588
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: This is what we did, the same thing.

589
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Speaker 6: One of the.

590
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Speaker 5: First things I did was have my brother Matt, you know,

591
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: I like, I saw Nie Little Thing Dead, which was like.

592
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 6: Blew my mind because it seems like you could make a.

593
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Speaker 5: Movie for two dollars, and that in Fright of the

594
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: Thirteenth and those movies that started seeing those of my

595
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: you know, when I was eleven, twelve, thirteen, and so

596
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: I started trying to make these like slasher movies and

597
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 5: they didn't go very far. And I made animated movies

598
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Speaker 5: with playmobile figures, and Sean was in that.

599
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Speaker 6: He killed my brother Patrick. There was always always done.

600
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Speaker 3: Yeah. My best friend and my now producing partner as well.

601
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Speaker 3: You know, what's all we he's a director as well.

602
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: But that's all we did was make movies, and it

603
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Speaker 3: was slasher based. We were obsessed with horror. We were

604
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: obsessed with Friday thirteenth to nightmar on Elm Street and

605
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Speaker 3: I Spit at Her Grave and all those blockbuster titles

606
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Speaker 3: that we used to go in and being like, oh

607
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Speaker 3: my god, you know we.

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Speaker 6: Were you shooting on Super eight or what we what

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Speaker 6: we know?

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Speaker 3: We had we had well, yeah, we had v We

611
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: had those big, big cameras that were like fucking this big.

612
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Speaker 3: We got filters, we had this. We all was all

613
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Speaker 3: in camera editing. You know. It was like ship like

614
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: erasing right there and then tape over it. I mean

615
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: that's how we And then we would have blood and

616
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: knives and latex all the thing. Yeah, we would do

617
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: these things where we would put in a zip lock

618
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: bag we'd mix like a blood mixture and water and

619
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Speaker 3: then we'd put it under a shirt and then we

620
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: cut little holes in it and take fucking fire works

621
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Speaker 3: and put it in the thing and light it and

622
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Speaker 3: the guy the actress with the gun going like se.

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Speaker 6: Realistic were every weekend.

624
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Speaker 4: It makes me sad that our kids don't get to

625
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: have the experience of like having to make their imagination,

626
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: like to actually get their imagine nation, to like work

627
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: with their hands to create these things versus like it

628
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Speaker 4: in their phone.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I my my my friends in high school

630
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 9: were called the Splicers because we made Super eight films

631
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Speaker 9: and we each had our own little you know, editing bay,

632
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 9: the little tiny scenes, and I would cut and splice

633
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Speaker 9: my own movies.

634
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 5: So I would edit on actual eight millimeter film and

635
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: on when it was when it was Super eight and

636
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: it was video. It was hard because the film strip

637
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 5: goes further than the picture. So it was always really uh,

638
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: you know, it was fun. And I had just fell

639
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 5: in with this group of kids that all did the

640
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 5: same thing.

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Speaker 4: You should do a passion project called splicers. It's going

642
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: to be a horror movie on Super eight and you're

643
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Speaker 4: going to splice it.

644
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Speaker 3: Well, no, the murder weapon is an actual little splicer.

645
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: They just like slit people's little jugulars.

646
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was. I came in my first

647
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 5: movie ever. We actually cut on film. That's the only

648
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: movie I've ever cut on film, and it was because

649
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 5: it was in a low budget studio. I mean, Avid

650
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 5: was already the way people were cutting things.

651
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Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, what was that movie.

652
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Speaker 6: It's a movie called Tromeo and Juliet.

653
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Speaker 2: How many films have you done now it's direct directed.

654
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Speaker 5: I think this is a this is a but I've written,

655
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Speaker 5: like I don't know how many movies.

656
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Speaker 7: I was just talking about Tromeo and Juliet last night

657
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 7: because I was in that movie and I was telling

658
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Speaker 7: the story of how my character gets punched in the nose.

659
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and how I actually got punched in the nose,

660
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Speaker 7: and the sound, the popping sound you hear in the

661
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Speaker 7: movie when I is the actual sound in my nose

662
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Speaker 7: breaking job.

663
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Speaker 2: It actually broke.

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Speaker 6: It was a blast.

665
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was.

666
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Speaker 6: It was our friend Val. Yes.

667
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Speaker 5: Trauma, if you don't know, is the oldest independent film

668
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Speaker 5: company in the world and they've been around for I

669
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Speaker 5: don't know, fifty sixty years now, and they they create

670
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 5: all sex and violence, very low budget movies. And that's

671
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 5: where how I got my start in filmmaking, was writing

672
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: the screenplay for Tromeo and Juliet for one hundred and

673
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: fifty dollars and then and then just became involved in

674
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 5: the movie and sort of just inserted myself until I was,

675
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 5: you know, directing actors and you know, choreographing sex scenes

676
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: and all of that stuff, and brought all my friends

677
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 5: in like Sean and my friend Val saw our friend

678
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: Val to act in it, and yeah, and it's still

679
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 5: It played for a year in the.

680
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't it?

681
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 10: Isn't it?

682
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: Isn't that so great? I know we'll talk about Superman

683
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: in a second, But obviously you're doing these big ass

684
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 3: action movies and there's the artists and you will always

685
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: be there. But there's also this sort of that sadness

686
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: but how free it all was, where you could just

687
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: go do whatever the hell you wanted to do.

688
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 8: But I'll.

689
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 6: Definitely because I can do anything I want.

690
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: Now, but you've reached that point right to where that

691
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: studio is not going to fuck with you really and

692
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: you can kind of do whatever you want.

693
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 5: I know, but I'm an idiot. I've always treated myself

694
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: like that, like I've never I've always every movie I've

695
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: made is a movie that i've directed.

696
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 6: Now writing is a different story.

697
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: Writing was pretty hellish for me because I'd have to

698
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 5: write and turn it over and then sometimes I got

699
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: a good director and sometimes.

700
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 6: I didn't, and it must be so different. It's so frustrating.

701
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 5: No, I know, I know, but as a director, like

702
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 5: I could imagine like when I made super My you know,

703
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 5: my second film I directed. I had all these action

704
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 5: sequences in my head that I wanted to do that

705
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: I couldn't afford to do, you know, And so I

706
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: can do all of that with Superman. I could do

707
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 5: all that with Guardians of the Galaxy, you know. And

708
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 5: then I go and I do TV. So I do

709
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 5: like the Peacemaker series, which you know, comes to second

710
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: season in August, and I can do that's like as

711
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: you know, are rated as we want it to be

712
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 5: and have action and drama and comedy and everything, and

713
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 5: there's no rules to that.

714
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 3: What's yeah, that's pretty great.

715
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 6: I get that.

716
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying.

717
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 4: I guess also, I think you get you when you

718
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: have like a really clear vision too. I would assume

719
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: that you end up working with the people and the

720
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: executives and people in the studio system that like you know,

721
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: that you trust, that trust you back, so you have

722
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 4: sort of a nice yeah, you know.

723
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 5: I think I always survived in the Hollywood system by

724
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: being the non squeaky wheel. So even from the first

725
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: movie I directed, Slither, I'm very influenced by the thing. Now,

726
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 5: even from that, from that movie forward, I just was

727
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: always responsible, under budget, made my days, made sure the

728
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: dailies look good, and there was always another Marvel the

729
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 5: same thing. There was always another project that was causing

730
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 5: more problems that the studio was involved in, and so

731
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 5: I never had I never have ever had any interference

732
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: whatsoever from any.

733
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 6: Studio I've ever worked with.

734
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 5: So I hear all the time people talking about studio

735
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: interference and getting upset with that, and I know it exists.

736
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: I have friends that's happened to but it just never

737
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: has happened to me. I've always been able to do

738
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: my thing, and I'm incredibly fortunate in that respect. But

739
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: I also choose good I'm really good at choosing people,

740
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: whether it's people that work for me, or whether it's

741
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 5: partners that I'm going to, you know, like you know,

742
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 5: dealing with you know, Kevin Figy at Marvel or you know,

743
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 5: Dylan Clark on my first movie Slither, or whoever it

744
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 5: is the studio who I'm dealing with.

745
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 6: I'm good at that as well.

746
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: I think that's such a good lesson for people who

747
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: really have strong like drive and vision to want to

748
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: be to work with people like I think so many

749
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: people are, like, well, how did you succeed or how

750
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: do you get like to actually be someone who shows up,

751
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: says what they're going to do, get like, gets it

752
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 4: done on time, on budget, creates like not doesn't doesn't

753
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: isn't the problem, isn't the isn't the problem maker.

754
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: But always the problem solver.

755
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot easier said than done, like

756
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 4: I think it is.

757
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's easier.

758
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: But I think the other thing that I think is

759
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: necessary for a filmmaker is listening to people. You know,

760
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 5: so a studio exact comes in and they tell you

761
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: their ideas. Now, there's those people out there that take

762
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: it all as the word of God and do whatever

763
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: they want, and that leads to issues, you know, and

764
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: then there's other people that are like, Nope, fuck off,

765
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 5: and then it's then they are a problem. But if

766
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 5: you can sincerely listen to someone consider the idea, people

767
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 5: sense that in you. They know that you're listening and

768
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: considering what they're saying, and then you have the ability

769
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: to say, if you're honest, say listen, I thought about it,

770
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 5: but I don't think it works as well as what

771
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 5: I'm thinking. Because of this and this and this, they

772
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 5: usually are very amen you know, they listen to that.

773
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: Relationship.

774
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: And I think when you're the listener, like you know

775
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: that people will be incredibly respectful when they know you're

776
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: taking in everything and that you're honoring everything they're bringing

777
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: to the table. Yes, that when it comes time for

778
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: you to say this is what you need, yes, they yes.

779
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 5: Yes, and and and also you know what, it's just

780
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 5: good for you as a filmmaker. I mean we you know,

781
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 5: we look at these great filmmakers of the seventies and

782
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: a few of them kept making good movies, but most

783
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 5: of them made a couple of good movies and then

784
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: made shit.

785
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 6: And I don't know what the reason for that is.

786
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 5: Some people just don't like they You're a man that

787
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 5: is a part of society, and you listen to other people,

788
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 5: and you go to work and you buy milk, and

789
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, you're in this place where

790
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: you're not connected to other people. And then people bring

791
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 5: you ideas when you're like, no, I'm the greatest, I'm

792
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: gonna do whatever I want, and you get eaten up

793
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 5: by that. And it's so it would be so easy

794
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 5: for me to make a movie without listening to anyone,

795
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: and it would be to the detriment of the film itself.

796
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 7: And I think that some of this is how you

797
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 7: it's how people identify as artists that like the you know,

798
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 7: we're all artists, but for some people, to them, being

799
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 7: an artist means it's all my vision and that's all

800
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 7: my vision all the time, as though they're a painter

801
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 7: or something like that, and they forget the the idea

802
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 7: that film and television and you know, storytelling is a

803
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 7: collaborative art.

804
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 8: Yes, so it has to be.

805
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 7: You can't just be the person who's you know, has

806
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 7: a singular vision all the time.

807
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 3: But it's a great point because you actually you're actually

808
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 3: leading into what I was actually going to say, which

809
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: is working with actors and eat goes and you know,

810
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: situations where you know there are collaborative sort of disagreements potentially,

811
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: how do you navigate that world.

812
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 5: I can't deal with it, you know, I can deal

813
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 5: with actors who are difficult, but if they are disrespectful

814
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: to people or they're trying to ascertain authority over the

815
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: directorial vision, it's just not it won't happen.

816
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 6: I you know, some actors have a lot of questions.

817
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: I just don't with Superman both David and Rachel have

818
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 5: a lot of questions.

819
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 6: Your dad has a ton of questions, so many questions

820
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 6: question the actor.

821
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

822
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 6: But they're good to the they're good to the crew,

823
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 6: they're good to people.

824
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: You know, your your dad was so nice and so

825
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 5: good to people, constantly putting that son of a bitch

826
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 5: Chris Pratton's place.

827
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 6: And there's a great story about your dad where Chris

828
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 6: is like Chris is, by the way, Chris prat is

829
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 6: one of my best friends.

830
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: Chris was in the trailer and he's, you know, we

831
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 5: just finished shooting for the day and he's sitting there

832
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 5: and uh, he's he's going through his post post shooting

833
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 5: routine with like the cucumbers literally cucumbers in his eye

834
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 5: and getting all his space the makeup, taking all the

835
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: space and all the little, you know, pieces of the

836
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 5: costume and is getting you know, getting taken apart after all,

837
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: by the way he took it. Chris Pratt took more

838
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 5: time than depaties to get ready every morning.

839
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 6: And he's the best, and so they oh, that's why

840
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 6: you worked with him on Glass, Chris.

841
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so Chris, he's getting taken apart.

842
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 6: Your dad comes into the trailer.

843
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: He's getting his you know, he's getting his makeup off

844
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: or his beard or whatever he had on.

845
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 6: And uh, and he's like, you know, Chris goes to

846
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 6: your dad. He says, uh, uh, you know what time is?

847
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: Call time tomorrow to Kurt and uh and he goes

848
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 5: and Kurt says, uh.

849
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 8: You know.

850
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: Kurt says, oh, I think it's at whatever seven a m.

851
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: And that was like eleven and a half hours from

852
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 5: the time. And he goes, what what what are we

853
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: you know, he says, you know, he says, yeah, we

854
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 5: were off the.

855
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 6: Clock a half hour ago. And Chris says, what I'm

856
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 6: not working.

857
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 8: Now goes, oh, this is working.

858
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: Oh look at how hard work. I want to talk

859
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: about Superman. But what's it like directing your brother? And

860
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: Sean was like being directed by your brother. Has there

861
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: ever been pushed back where Seawan's like, yeah, like chance

862
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: now that they can't do that?

863
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 6: Only on humanity?

864
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 8: You know, yeah, I tried that. Let's talk about that. Well.

865
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 7: I say, first of all, the fact that he's the

866
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 7: oldest of six and I'm the youngest of six helps,

867
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 7: you know, that helps the dynamic on set. There's an

868
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 7: idea of like of like you're not really the boss

869
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 7: of me, but you're kind of the boss of me.

870
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 7: That is uh. That that I think is uh that

871
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 7: I think is useful for our jobs on set. And

872
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 7: it's like it's just comfortable.

873
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 8: It's like.

874
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 7: He's a director and I'm an actor, and it's always

875
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 7: been that way, so us working together, we slip right

876
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 7: into our roles.

877
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 8: Quite easily.

878
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 7: And I, you know, part of my whole philosophies and

879
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 7: actors that once I do my work with my character,

880
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 7: once I'm on set, I'm a soldier. So I'm like

881
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 7: I'm doing whatever this, whatever the story takes, once I'm there.

882
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 7: And and I think James actually really respects, you know,

883
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 7: not just me, but actors who are who are like that.

884
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 7: And so I've always felt like collaborating with James is

885
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 7: actually easier than with anyone else I've ever really worked with.

886
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: I love that.

887
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever heard anybody say it like that,

888
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: Like I'm like a soul. I'm like a soul drum set.

889
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 4: I feel similar, Like I always feel like I'm there.

890
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 4: You do the prep, you do the work, but I'm

891
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: there to facilitate the vision.

892
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

893
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 7: I always feel like there's two parts to my job.

894
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 7: The first part is being true, is that my first

895
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 7: boss is the character I'm playing, right, So there I

896
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 7: have to tell their story truthfully or I'm not doing

897
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 7: my job.

898
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 8: That's number one.

899
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 7: But once I feel capable of doing that, then I'm

900
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 7: at the mercy of the storyteller and of the people

901
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 7: on set, of the director and co workers.

902
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 6: Sean is literally my favorite actor to work with.

903
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: And I just you know, I just never have I mean,

904
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: I really don't have to direct you very much. You know,

905
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 5: sometimes I guide them because I have a better sense

906
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: of what the overall story is or it's happening in

907
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 5: the scene, or how this scene relates to the next scene.

908
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 6: But it's always just kind of tonally moving things around.

909
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: It isn't it's about dialing, it's not about changing anything

910
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 5: doing or there's very rarely a moment when I go

911
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 5: the way you said that didn't work.

912
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 7: And I have a pretty good sense for like I

913
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 7: can finish a take and look at his face as

914
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 7: he's sitting at the monitor and no, no, like and

915
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 7: and and just cut to the chase, and like, what's

916
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 7: not working, This isn't right?

917
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 8: What do we tell just yeah, shortcut.

918
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: Is it super professional on set when you guys are

919
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 4: working together, because I know that if it was like

920
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: me and Ollie was directing, I'd be like, have Oliver

921
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: tried to direct?

922
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: And be like no, no, I just be like, I

923
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: just be cracking.

924
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: If you want to be great, listen to him. If

925
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: you want to be good.

926
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 5: They're really I mean really, It's just never like that.

927
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you know, you know, everybody trust me.

928
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's like I work with with with

929
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 5: the same actors again and again, and I'm really comfortable

930
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: with that because you know, you get to know them

931
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: inside and out. You know, I'm going on the uh

932
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 5: you know, press tour stuff for Superman and I'm writing

933
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 5: Chris every day because I miss I miss him so

934
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 5: much because he was my partner for so many years

935
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 5: in this stuff and it was so fun.

936
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 6: Being around him.

937
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 5: But you know, whether it's him or John Cena, or

938
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 5: you know Linda Carlini, or you know, you know my

939
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 5: wife Jen who's on Peacemaker, or you know Sean Stevie

940
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 5: Blackheart who's been in almost every single one of my films.

941
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 5: You knownthan Fillion, Michael Rooker, Like I like working with

942
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 5: the same people because you know, directors are difficult and

943
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: it takes me, you know, and I make long movies,

944
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 5: so I make movies that usually are shooting for like

945
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 5: four or five months, right, and it takes me about

946
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 5: half of a movie to figure an act out, you know,

947
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 5: to see what works in what doesn't. You know, you know,

948
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 5: should I do this person's coverage first, or should I

949
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 5: do this person's coverage second, you know, and it's all

950
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: you know, like when I first worked with Chris Pratt

951
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 5: and Zoe Saldana, Zoe was the bigger star at the time,

952
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: and so I shot her coverage first and then Chris's.

953
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 5: But I found out that Zoe gets better and better

954
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 5: with every take. And Chris is a crazy you know,

955
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 5: he was especially early on he was more you know,

956
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 5: crazy and like kind of started off hot and then

957
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 5: went down and then came back, and so you know,

958
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 5: as time went on, then I started with Chris's and

959
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: then when he started to falter, I'd turned around to

960
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: Zoe and then he'd come back, and I turned around

961
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: and get him again. Yeah, and you know, you don't

962
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: know that for it takes a couple of months.

963
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: That's that's that's such a beautiful thing about directing, especially

964
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 3: directing actors. Is this the nuance that goes into all

965
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: of that stuff that people don't get to really see

966
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: a director. Do they see what's on the screen, But

967
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: those little things which can which can change performance, which

968
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: can elevate performance because you know how to unconsciously sort

969
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 3: of manipulate it is you know that that's the ship,

970
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: that that's that's the sauce that people don't get to see.

971
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 4: Just it's also like the magic of just being in

972
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: the circus, like all together.

973
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: It's just like fun.

974
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 8: It's the great.

975
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: You have good people that are smart, and you're you know, I.

976
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: You just have this like I don't know, it's it's

977
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 4: it's like the most beautiful, weird rollercoaster and everyone starts

978
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: to get to know each other. And if it's good

979
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: people and there's good energy, there's just nothing better.

980
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: It's just like you think, oh, it's the most fun.

981
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: That's the best place to be.

982
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 6: I hated it until a couple of movies ago.

983
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 5: Did you really Yeah, Yeah, I loved pre production and

984
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: then I loved post production. I hated shooting because it

985
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 5: was I was a madman and it was so intense

986
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 5: all the time and so but over the past few movies,

987
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: I think since the Suicide Squad, Guardians two was like

988
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 5: the height of like, I have to change the way

989
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 5: I'm living otherwise I can't do this for the rest

990
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: of my line, you know, because it takes too much

991
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 5: out of.

992
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 6: Me, and I'm too insane.

993
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 5: I don't sleep, and so something changed and I've had

994
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: more and more fun on every project since that time.

995
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: You did you have to like do a like did

996
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: you have to create a different routine?

997
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 6: I did? I did.

998
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 5: I can't, you know, I can't work. I work a lot.

999
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: I work seven days a week in my normal life,

1000
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: but I can't. I have to come home and actually

1001
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: have a little bit of a life after shooting. If

1002
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 5: you're going to shoot as much as I shoot, I

1003
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 5: mean I'll shoot sometimes, you know, you know, for you know,

1004
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 5: two hundred you know days.

1005
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 8: Out of the year.

1006
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 6: So it's like, I can't.

1007
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: I have to have a life, you know, when you

1008
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 5: when I started out and I'm making a movie every

1009
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 5: three years or whatever, because that's when you get the

1010
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 5: opportunity to do it, and you're always trying, and then

1011
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 5: you get to do it, then you can know, you

1012
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 5: can live like a mad person and not sleep and

1013
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 5: then just do nothing else but that for the time

1014
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 5: you're doing it.

1015
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 6: When I was also only shooting for you know, thirty days,

1016
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 6: forty days, forty five days as opposed to ninety days,

1017
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 6: one hundred days, one hundred and ten days.

1018
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: Is it fair to say that you had a great

1019
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: time shooting Superman?

1020
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 5: I did had I had the best time shooting Superman.

1021
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 5: I think that was the greatest time I've ever had

1022
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 5: shooting anything.

1023
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: Because it looks fucking great. By the way, and I'm

1024
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: not just blowing smoke right now, but I saw I

1025
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 3: was actually watching Wyat's movie Venter Bolts, Yeah and good

1026
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 3: first trailer with Superman, and the audience was just taken

1027
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: it back. It's this cool sort of throwback feel for me,

1028
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: Like I was just like, Wow, it just had a

1029
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: different quality to it that looked really really exciting and

1030
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: really really fun.

1031
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: Who shot it? Who do you? Who do you work with?

1032
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 5: Henry brad is his name? So Henry shot starting with

1033
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 5: Guardian two.

1034
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 6: He shot all of all of my movies. Cool and he.

1035
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: Who's who's the Superman? What's his name?

1036
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 6: His name is David corn Sweat and he is a.

1037
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: Great he looks amazing.

1038
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 8: Okah, actually amazing.

1039
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: I have something to say about this? Is it Twister?

1040
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: I'm watching Twister. I was at the I went to

1041
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: the London in London to the premiere. I turned to

1042
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 4: my agent who.

1043
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: Is with me, and I go, that guy's a movie star.

1044
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 6: Wow, that's so funny.

1045
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she goes, oh my god, he's the new Superman.

1046
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 8: Oh my god.

1047
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: I just immediately was like, who is he?

1048
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 5: I just like I had the similar I saw him

1049
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 5: in Pearl, my my friend Ty West's film, Oh God,

1050
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 5: a magnificent little horror movie. Again has a small role

1051
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: in that, and it's not that small, it's a medium

1052
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 5: sized role in that. And I'm like, oh this guy, Shoot,

1053
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 5: could this guy be Superman? And so I wrote our

1054
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 5: casting director because I was just starting at that time

1055
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 5: to put things together and like make sure this guy,

1056
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 5: David Corn sweat auditions for the movie.

1057
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 6: And it was actually like the second audition I saw.

1058
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 6: Really yeah.

1059
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 5: I mean we went through hundreds after that, rare screen tested,

1060
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 5: you know. But I was really lucky, lucky that he

1061
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 5: was like the second person I saw auditions, and Rachel

1062
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 5: was like the tenth Lois Lane. I saw Wow, So

1063
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 5: I kind of knew that I had these, you know,

1064
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 5: really good options early on.

1065
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 7: You know, I think both of them, they're they're both

1066
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 7: both Davity and Rachel, Like their performances are just astonishing,

1067
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 7: and I think that I always try to point out

1068
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 7: that to a lot of just regular viewers, it's hard

1069
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 7: to understand the degree of difficulty of playing it and

1070
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 7: I because it just seems like, oh, movie stars, superhero role,

1071
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 7: like all you got to do is look good, but

1072
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 7: it seems it looks easier than it is. And they're

1073
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 7: both they both give it such incredible layers of death.

1074
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 8: They're really both, they're really really great.

1075
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: Great for it, and the aesthetic looks great of the

1076
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 3: whole movie, at least in the trailer, and then he

1077
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: looks amazing. He's almost like this cross between Reeves and

1078
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: Tom Welling in a weird way.

1079
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I see that they are his parents.

1080
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 5: Those are his parents actually, So I knew I was

1081
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 5: on his own a little.

1082
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 6: He's a little that many people know.

1083
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 3: Do you get stressed out about the performance of the

1084
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: movie and all that ship or do you kind of

1085
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: let it go?

1086
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 5: I work it, letting it go and I get stressed

1087
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 5: out about it. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I mean.

1088
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 8: Have dressed out about.

1089
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 3: It, get stressed out about it.

1090
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I think anybody who has high stakes, I

1091
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: mean there's this is like, you know, hundreds of millions

1092
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: of dollars.

1093
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's part of the job, you know.

1094
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're.

1095
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I know it is.

1096
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's it's it's part of it,

1097
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 5: and it's it's stressful. And we've you know, Peter and

1098
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 5: I took over d C. So it's this whole thing,

1099
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 5: you know, But also one of one of the I'll

1100
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 5: tell you one of the most stressful things about it

1101
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 5: is that people have these expectations that are so much

1102
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 5: higher than what my expectations.

1103
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 6: Yes, we're an expensive movie.

1104
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 5: We certainly aren't as expensive as like Guardians of the

1105
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Speaker 5: Galaxy Volume three, and so we don't have the same

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00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 5: requirements in terms of, you know, we're creating a you know,

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00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 5: a superman in the world that you know, it needs

1108
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 5: to make a certain amount of money. But when people

1109
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: come up with these outlandish ideas about what that's supposed

1110
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 5: to be, I'm like, guys, it's just like, don't put

1111
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 5: that on me, you know, and it's also like you know,

1112
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 5: you know, articles come out and they're like, you know,

1113
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 5: talking about some aspect of Warner Brothers and like everything

1114
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 5: rides on Superman.

1115
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, it doesn't.

1116
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

1117
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 8: Know.

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00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 6: We are taking care of us. DC Studios is fourteen.

1119
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 5: People, you know, yeah, and we have you know, we're

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00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 5: taking care of DC. We're not, you know, taking care

1121
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: of all of Warner Brothers, which, by the way, has

1122
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 5: had a magnificent year.

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Speaker 3: So dude, with Minecraft, you know, Jesse irmans my best in.

1124
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 6: All the greatest guy.

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00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and he basically Minecraft is his

1126
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: I don't care what anyone else says. I'll say it's stressed.

1127
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 3: Like he shepherded that movie from the beginning for a

1128
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: long time when people didn't want It's been twelve thirteen

1129
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: years in the making, and you know a lot of

1130
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: people were saying no, no, no, we don't want it anymore,

1131
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: and he's like, no, this is gonna be, this is

1132
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 3: gonna happen.

1133
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my boy Minecraft.

1134
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, Jesse is one of those

1135
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 5: great guys that, yeah, you know, the head of a

1136
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 5: you know, is a very powerful executive. Yeah, but everyone

1137
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 5: loves he's the best and he's such a good guy.

1138
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 5: But but beyond that, Minecraft Final Destination, Sinners have extraordinarily Wellner,

1139
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 5: it's a really it's it's good.

1140
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 6: It's a good time for the movie.

1141
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: Well, for the record, I did do the voice of

1142
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: Plastic Man in an animated show. You I am throwing

1143
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: my hat in the ring for a forty eight year

1144
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: old Plastic perfect live action. But I've got a decent

1145
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: Wings fan, you know, I know, you know, CG. But

1146
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: I can help you out with with some of my lankiness.

1147
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Is there a gun gun family trait?

1148
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 4: Like, is there something that when you see it, it's

1149
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 4: just like creatively that your family's like, oh, that's so

1150
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: our family.

1151
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 8: What is it?

1152
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: Sean, Uh, it's got to be humor based some way.

1153
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh.

1154
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 6: We disagree on so many movies.

1155
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 8: And so.

1156
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 6: My brother Brian is an artiste.

1157
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 5: Like he does not you know, he finds flaws and things,

1158
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 5: you know, you know, I love you know, for.

1159
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 6: Instance, Wicked, like he hated Wicked.

1160
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's like it's very much like that that

1161
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 5: type of thing, you know.

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00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 7: I think it's fighting, Like like we said earlier, we're

1163
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 7: not competitive and We're not competitive, but we will fight

1164
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 7: to the death on what we on, what we like

1165
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 7: and what we're what movies we think are good and

1166
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 7: like probably the angriest I ever get at my siblings

1167
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 7: or in movies that they liked that I think are terrible.

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys would be a fun like screening party.

1169
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like Academy Academy time, like fall just all

1170
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 4: watch at the Gun.

1171
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: At the Gun family.

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00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 7: We definitely all like sticking I mean James, all James

1173
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 7: movies are like this, but we.

1174
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 8: All like like.

1175
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 7: Sticking off for the little guy having the like the

1176
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 7: sort of band of misfits things.

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Speaker 8: Outsider. Yeah, yeah, you know, like we.

1178
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 7: All grew up in you know, outside the suburbs, outside

1179
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 7: of Saint Louis, Missouri, and we all, I think all

1180
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 7: of us to some degree felt like outsiders a little bit.

1181
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 8: So some things.

1182
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 7: That champion outsiders he is probably a through line for

1183
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 7: all of us.

1184
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, we definitely were outsiders in terms of Los Angeles,

1185
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 5: like in terms of Hollywood, you know, we you know,

1186
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 5: I remember one time as a little kid seeing Danny

1187
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: k walking by in the airport with glasses, surrounded by bodyguards,

1188
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 5: and I was like, holy shit, that's like a magic man,

1189
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 5: you know. And to me, it was always it was this,

1190
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 5: It was a pipe dream. It seemed like a pipe dreams.

1191
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 5: I never knew anybody in the entertainment industry like it

1192
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 5: would have been amazing to be a morning DJ like

1193
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 5: that was the biggest I thought was possible.

1194
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 6: So the fact that we're doing what we're doing now

1195
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 6: is just it's.

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01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 3: Crazy, pretty awesome. Yeah, Well, a couple more questions because

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Speaker 3: I love talking to you guys so much like the same, same,

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Speaker 3: But okay, really quickly going back to Superman. It's such

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Speaker 3: an iconic brand and we've seen all these different sort

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Speaker 3: of iterations of Superman, like how does James gunn? What

1201
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: did you do to sort of put your own spin

1202
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: on it, to put your twist on it? What did

1203
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: your own nuances to Superman? Did you have an idea

1204
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Speaker 3: of like here's how I want to just be a

1205
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Speaker 3: little bit different.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it wasn't.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't so much come from a matter of how

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01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: can it be different? Because if it was the same

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Speaker 5: and good, I'm fine, you know, But for me, how

1211
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Speaker 5: like looking at it afterwards and what is different about it?

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Speaker 5: And what do what really interested me was bringing I

1213
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 5: grew up with comic books, right, I love comic books.

1214
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 5: As a kid, I started reading with comic books, and

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Speaker 5: so back in the say, even when I came to

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 5: comic books and I'm reading Superman, he always came with

1217
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 5: a world of superheroes and metahumans and you know, all

1218
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Speaker 5: these different people.

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Speaker 6: It was a universe. It was a DC universe that

1220
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 6: was a.

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Speaker 5: Different reality and alternate reality to the one we lived in.

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Speaker 5: So I wanted to create Superman in a different universe

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Speaker 5: where there were these other heroes. Just like when I

1224
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 5: came to comics and started reading those, I didn't have

1225
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 5: to learn where he came from and all that everybody

1226
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 5: knows where he came from. So I wanted to come

1227
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Speaker 5: into the story at a different place with Superman as

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Speaker 5: a young man, at the beginning of his relationship with

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Speaker 5: Lois Slaine, at a part of his life that we

1230
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 5: hadn't necessarily seen yet. And it also surround him with

1231
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 5: these big science fiction things that we don't normally see

1232
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Speaker 5: in Superman movies. There's a flying dogs and robots and

1233
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 5: giant monsters and all these things are up part of

1234
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 5: this world. But then at the same time, I always

1235
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 5: asked myself, and this is like when I first started

1236
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: doing Guardians of the Galaxy and they first pitched it

1237
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 5: to me, and I went, oh my god, how am

1238
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 5: I going to do this? This is like bugs Bunny

1239
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 5: in the middle of the Avengers. I don't know, you know,

1240
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 5: you know, it's talking raccoon. And then I said, okay,

1241
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 5: we'll stop. Wait a minute. What if the raccoon was real?

1242
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 6: Right?

1243
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 5: And I thought, Oh my god, that means he's totally

1244
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 5: he was created by this person. He was completely alone.

1245
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 5: He's the only one of his type in the world,

1246
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 5: and he's the saddest being in the universe. That, to me,

1247
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 5: became the engine for the entire Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy,

1248
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 5: and why to me, Rocket was always a secret protagonist,

1249
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 5: and why the ending of that movie was where it

1250
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 5: was leading from the very beginning.

1251
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 6: It was about a.

1252
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 5: Character finding his finding his humanity, finding you know, God

1253
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 5: in one respect, you know, And so for me, it

1254
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 5: was like, okay, well, what if Superman is real? So

1255
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 5: that leads to a whole bunch of different things that

1256
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 5: are completely true to the character. I mean, he's got

1257
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 5: glasses that hide his identity. How does that work? You know,

1258
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 5: he's got this relationship with Lois Lane. Well, what does

1259
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 5: that exactly mean if you're in a relationship with somebody

1260
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 5: who can you know, squash buildings? What how? What are

1261
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: the what are the problems with that? He's completely a hero.

1262
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 5: He believes in saving lives no matter what.

1263
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 6: And what is that? What does that ideologically? How does that.

1264
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 5: Play when you're a journalist and she sees things in

1265
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 5: a little bit more balanced way, a more utilitarian way,

1266
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 5: and so what is that relationship like? And so it's

1267
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 5: about taking these broad, big concepts and bringing them to

1268
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 5: the screen in the most comic booky movie of all time,

1269
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 5: but simultaneously having the humans be as.

1270
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 8: Real as possible.

1271
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, and having the characters be as real as possible.

1272
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 5: So we have an interview scene with Clark and lowis

1273
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 5: that lasts for ten minutes?

1274
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 8: Wow?

1275
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 5: It's about the It is both about her interviewing him

1276
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 5: and Superman and we find out what he did, where

1277
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 5: he came from, what's going on, But also it's about

1278
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 5: their relationship and there's different ethics and different moralities.

1279
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: Did you ever take the piss out of the glass thing?

1280
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 8: Meing? Like?

1281
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 3: How no one knows it's him.

1282
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 8: Is that is it?

1283
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 6: We explained it in the movie if you see.

1284
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: You Do.

1285
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we explain it.

1286
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: I feel like there's this it's like taking over DC.

1287
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 4: And then there's the whole Marvel kind of you know,

1288
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 4: people calling it like Marvel fatigue and and you.

1289
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: Know, box office declines and all that kind of stuff.

1290
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 4: It's like, how what you're saying, you know, is like

1291
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 4: there's this thing that you sort of I wonder, Well,

1292
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: I guess my question would be, like, how do you

1293
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 4: approach d C as as the world so that you're not.

1294
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: You know, going down kind of that path of like oversaturation.

1295
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 5: Well, I think it for me it isn't so much

1296
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: you know, superhero fatigue as it is people get bored

1297
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 5: with seeing the same things again and again, you know,

1298
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 5: And so it's about, you know, focusing on script first

1299
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 5: and foremost. And the thing I missed the most in

1300
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 5: Hollywood from when I started out is that even back

1301
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 5: when I was like writing Scooby Doo right, that screenplay

1302
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 5: didn't it didn't. That movie did not get greenlit until

1303
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 5: the studio was happy with the screenplay. This is like

1304
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine. Today it doesn't work like that.

1305
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 6: Today.

1306
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 5: People green light ideas and ips without having finished screenplays.

1307
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 5: And I'll never allow a movie in DC studios or

1308
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 5: make a movie that doesn't have a finished, really good screenplay,

1309
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 5: you know, And I think that that is the you know,

1310
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 5: obviously IP drives a lot of the business, but at

1311
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 5: the same time, I think we can be we can

1312
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 5: be more. Being a former writer, I try to be

1313
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 5: as I like to prop up writers as much as possible.

1314
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: Well, actually leading into my sort of last question I

1315
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 3: wanted to ask, was will you ever go back and

1316
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: make smaller movies or something that is not sort of

1317
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: these IP the DC's and now now you're so ingrained

1318
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: in that, but is there any desire to sort of

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Speaker 3: move into or at least do a movie that's not

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Speaker 3: so massive? And where do you think those movies will

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01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: ever come back? Those thirty to fifty million dollar movies?

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01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: Like where are the comedies now? Where is this all?

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Speaker 3: Is it going to come?

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Speaker 5: I think the comedies will come back. I think that

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01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 5: there's a place for watch you know. Right now, it

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01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 5: does seem as if people want to see spectacle films

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01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 5: in studios, whether it's superheroes or Leland and Stitch or whatever,

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01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 5: and they want to see horror movies in theaters always stations,

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 5: you know, and then other theatrical experiences. People have great televisions.

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01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 5: That's so they're like I can see Hoora at home

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01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 5: and get a lot out of it, which is one

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01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 5: of the you know, it's an amazing film.

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Speaker 6: Well we're seeing in the theater, by the way.

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 5: But I think that that is changing a little bit.

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01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 5: I think comedies are kind of the big question mark

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01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 5: because why have what has happened to the hangovers? Why

1337
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 5: are there no big comedies right now? Why are people

1338
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 5: staying at home?

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01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 4: I think it's the same thing you said about about

1340
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 4: script Yeah, I know in my experience, when it comes

1341
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 4: to comedy or rom com it's just talent. It's writing

1342
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: talent and investing in it, and you know, you find

1343
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 4: it's like it's the place where you will find like

1344
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 4: new talent or someone who wants to do it instead

1345
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 4: of like investing in great writing.

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01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 5: I think the other thing is is that when I

1347
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 5: came to town, you know, the people that were made

1348
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 5: the most money as writers were screenwriters, and then a

1349
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 5: handful of big television writers of people who created friends

1350
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 5: or you know, you know, whatever law and order you know. Today,

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01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 5: it's like it's very hard as a writer to come

1352
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 5: to you know, into the industry and be like, Okay,

1353
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 5: I can write dribble for films and not get paid

1354
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 5: that well, or I can go create do anything I

1355
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 5: want and create the craziest I can create, you know,

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01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 5: you know, the craziest show of all time and uh

1357
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 5: and have it on TV and have complete freedom and

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 5: be the boss because I'm the writer.

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01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 6: And yeah, the bosses have help.

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01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 5: And that is a hard you know, with the rise

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01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 5: of premiere television, that is a really hard thing for

1362
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 5: a writer not.

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01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 6: To say you know, yes to.

1364
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 5: And so I think the screenwriting pool of talented writers

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 5: writing for film has gotten smaller. Movies there's not as

1366
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 5: many movies, but there are also the writers. It's gotten

1367
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 5: smaller because a lot of the best in the brightest

1368
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 5: have been you know, our moms to the flame of television.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, proud this achievement of each other.

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Speaker 4: There's the two parts mean this question and we'll do

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 4: our last question, but the proudest achievements in each other.

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Speaker 7: Like, so my proudest achievement of yea of James.

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have to be related, but it can be.

1374
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 10: But like for me, I think it I think the

1375
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 10: thing that comes to mind is really delivering the goods

1376
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 10: on the first Guardians movie.

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01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 7: That you know, making that jump from from being a smaller,

1378
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 7: sort of niche artist to making an actual great movie

1379
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 7: that that has mass appeal is just like though insanely difficult,

1380
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 7: and and I think that the degree to which he

1381
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 7: delivered the goods on all of that is is astonishing.

1382
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 7: And there's a lot of elements of James's job in

1383
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 7: his career that I think are really impressive and uh

1384
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 7: and uh where he really is the best of what

1385
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 7: he does in a lot of ways. But but that

1386
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 7: first one is the is the one that's kind of like, wow,

1387
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 7: holy smokes, that really that really threaded the needle, cool James.

1388
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 5: Uh. You know, it's interesting because I feel unspeakably proud

1389
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 5: of of Sean when we're working together. And you know,

1390
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 5: I even said at the end of Guardians three and

1391
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 5: and I got emotional when I was giving my speech

1392
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 5: to the cast the casting crew that you know the

1393
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 5: best part of making the movies was being with my

1394
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 5: brother Sean, was was having somebody that you trust in

1395
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 5: love around you all the time is incredibly important to me.

1396
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 5: Without that heart, I just I don't know if I

1397
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 5: could do it, you know, But.

1398
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 6: I mean, Sean, I don't. I don't really know. I mean,

1399
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 6: it's it's Selena's the product I've ever.

1400
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 8: Was of you.

1401
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,879
Speaker 6: But that's another podcast.

1402
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's another Sean helped a family member

1403
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 11: when they were very very much in need and did

1404
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 11: the right thing to a degree that very few people

1405
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 11: would and showed what a truly good and caring and

1406
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 11: loving human he is and and in a way that

1407
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 11: none of my other siblings nor me stepped up in

1408
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 11: a way.

1409
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 5: And uh, and that's that's it's it's that that heart

1410
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 5: that he has and that.

1411
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 6: True concern and love for other people that makes me

1412
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 6: the product.

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: The first part of the question is, you know, what

1414
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 4: is it about your sibling that you would love if

1415
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 4: you had more of something you could emulate, uh, that

1416
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 4: you wish you could emulate. And then the other part

1417
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 4: of it is what's one thing you would alleviate from

1418
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 4: your sibling that you think would make their life easier

1419
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: and smoother.

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 7: I mean, that's like the one thing that I would like,

1421
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 7: I wish I had his energy and focus, Like if

1422
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 7: I had, I feel like I would.

1423
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,839
Speaker 8: I would love to have one quarter of James's energy

1424
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 8: and focus.

1425
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: Can inter up really quickly because I'm like, yeah, if

1426
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,839
Speaker 3: I had even like a quarter of Kate sort of drive, ambition,

1427
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: her energy, her focus, I would be George Clooney and

1428
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: Steven Spielberg. I would be both of them. There is

1429
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: so much bubbling up inside of this, But I wish

1430
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: I had just even like a just announce of heer shit.

1431
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm not throw it over to him.

1432
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 8: While I think about the second part of question.

1433
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 6: I wish I wasn't allergic to cats.

1434
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 5: We both love cat, but I have a cat, and

1435
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 5: I love my cat more than I think. But yeah,

1436
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 5: I think Sean is way more chill than I am,

1437
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,480
Speaker 5: and so I can be very reactionary.

1438
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 6: I react to things immediately way too much.

1439
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 5: And if I could have a little bit more of

1440
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 5: the sobriety in reacting the situations that Sean has and

1441
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 5: take a beat before becoming making an intense It's part

1442
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 5: of me that's good as a director, because I make intense,

1443
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 5: quick decisions, but when it comes to real life and

1444
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 5: just doing that constantly, it's it really.

1445
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,480
Speaker 6: Is a wear and tear on me. So I wish

1446
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 6: that he had.

1447
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 7: Well that that sees right into what I would. What

1448
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 7: I would, you know, alleviate is I would I would

1449
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 7: give you the ability to fully chill at least for like,

1450
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 7: you know, two weeks at a time that's when you

1451
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 7: needed it or something like that, Like I don't, I don't,

1452
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 7: you know you he your your your stress level starts

1453
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 7: to raise with when and you can get dormant. And

1454
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 7: I think, like a little bit more, a little bit

1455
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 7: more chill.

1456
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 5: I'm going to work on that after after after you know,

1457
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 5: Superman and Piecemaker come, I really am.

1458
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 6: I'm committed to it. I've told my wife I'm going

1459
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 6: to do it.

1460
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: That's great, Okay.

1461
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 5: I think if I could alleviate one thing from Sean

1462
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 5: and said, he's really hard on himself. So I think

1463
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 5: that if I could relieve him of just being so

1464
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 5: hard on himself, I would.

1465
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 6: I would love to see that, you.

1466
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: Know, right, this is so fun, so fun. Thank you

1467
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 3: guys for taking the time. It went long, but it's

1468
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 3: just so great talking to you guys.

1469
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 8: I love it.

1470
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,839
Speaker 6: I love it. I hope I see you guys in person.

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will go with the movie. Man, I cannot wait.

1472
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: Good luck, We'll see you around.

1473
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

1474
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 8: Thanks guys.

1475
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: Awesome. That was so great.

1476
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 4: I love I learned so much from both of them.

1477
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 3: Sean cool cool, He's like me, He's like super chill.

1478
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: I wish you were more like Sean.

1479
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 8: What do you mean we were cool?

1480
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 3: Were two pieces of good.

1481
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: I loved it. That was so much fun.

1482
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: I have a good table read. Okay, bye you guys,

1483
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 3: Love you.