WEBVTT - Google's AI Mishap & the Fitbit Ace LTE 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.400 International authorities shut down a major botnet. How to check 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:09.120 if your machine has the affected malware. Your Android devices 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.280 are going to be part of a massive new finding network. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.400 What you need to know about that a new smart 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.320 watch for kids might be exactly what the parents ordered. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:23.840 Plus your tech questions answered? What's going on on richdmiro 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.920 And this is Rich on Tech. This is the show 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:28.760 where I talk about the tech stuff I think you 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.480 should know about. It's also the place where I answer 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:36.040 your questions about technology. I believe that tech should be interesting, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.639 useful and fun. Phone lines are open at triple eight 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.640 Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.199 to two four one zero one. If you'd like to 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.280 be on the show, give me a call. If you 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:55.120 have a question about technology, email is also open. Just 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.680 go to Rich on tech dot tv. That's Rich on 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.880 tech dot tv and hit the contact link. You can 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.640 send me an email. I may read it on the 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.080 show or answer your question. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:10.480 Guests. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.560 This week, we've got JP Schmetz, CEO of Ghoste. He 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.760 is a digital privacy expert, and he's going to discuss tools, browsers, 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.280 AI privacy and legislation like the American Privacy Rights Act 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.080 and Later in the show, we've got a Neil Subberwall 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.679 of Google Fitbit. He's going to discuss the company's new 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.840 connected smartwatch for kids, the Fitbit. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.679 Ace LT Well, I'm. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.760 So glad that you joined me today for real news 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.039 about technology. Here's the thing that happens to me all 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.120 week long. I feel like I'm putting out tech fires. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.840 There are so many news sources. There are so many reels, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.400 There are so many tiktoks, there are so many headlines, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.360 there are so many instagrams stories, There is so much 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.760 information floating around out there. What do most people do 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.560 They read the headlines? What do most headlines do? They 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.520 entice you with some sort of information that makes you 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.720 want to click. Now, that is the logical web that 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.480 we live in these days. You have to get people 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.399 to click. There are many ways you can get your information. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.320 But I feel like half of my job is literally 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.880 telling people the real story behind things. So people will 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.680 come up to me and they'll say, hey, Rich, did 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.440 you see how while that situation was with the w 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.040 blop blup? And I say, well, let me explain what's 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.600 really happening there. There are so many reels that people 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.040 send me on a daily basis through Instagram, and it's 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.200 always some kind of secret hidden feature on the iPhone 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.600 or something that can make your Gmail work better or 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.680 something who knows. It's also nonsensical. So what I try 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.040 to do with my report sorts is try to help 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.880 you understand the tech news that you need to know 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.240 and also give you the actual information. It is so 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.360 easy to say that Facebook is evil, or that Google 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:18.600 is horrible, or that TikTok is bad, but let's get 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.880 the real story behind things. And one of those real 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.240 stories this week is with Google. So last week Google 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:30.520 introduced something called AI overviews. This is kind of like 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:35.680 an AI search overview of what you're looking for. So 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.720 this is something that I was testing for many, many months. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.680 It's very helpful when you search for something on Google, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.960 at the top of your results will be sort of 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:49.200 an AI generated summary that can really help you understand 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.240 the answer that you're looking for. Google also has something 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.880 called featured snippets, and these are kind of like little 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.920 snippets of websites, the text of a website that might 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.600 give you the answer you're looking for. So if you 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.760 say something like what temperature do I need to cook 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.440 a steak? To it might show you a featured snippet 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.720 from a website about grilling steak and saying steak should 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.120 be cooked to this temperature, and you say, oh, I 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:13.800 got the answer. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:14.920 It's done. It's easy. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.559 I see that it's from the Weber website. I trust them. Okay, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.920 let's move on with life. AI overviews are very similar, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.640 except it takes a bunch of information and sort of 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.360 synthesizes that into a little answer, kind of like CHATGBT, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.480 but for your search result. So what happened was a 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.160 lot of people started asking Google when this thing went 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.520 wide to everyone. They rolled it out to many millions 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.520 of people over the past week. Well, people started getting 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.200 really interesting answers, But did they That's the thing that 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.680 Google now disputes. So Google has come out with an 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.160 entire blog post about this. So people are posting all 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:56.839 kinds of screenshots of odd and infactual overviews that Google 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.920 had purportedly returned. Turns out a lot of those were 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.120 faked screenshots. And here's the other thing about surfing the 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.440 web these days and being on social media, it's really 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.680 getting tough to figure out what's real and what's fake. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.400 Even reputable news organizations these days, will post a click 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.600 baity headline and there might be some truth to it, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.720 but you have to dig really hard to find out 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.479 what the true answer is. So, for instance, in my 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.240 newsletter this week, I talked about malware that is masquerading 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:34.120 as VPN software on computers, and in my newsletter, I 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.880 actually give you the names of the VPN software that 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.640 you should be searching for and the actual instructions on 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.920 how to search it. It's very simple, it's very straightforward, 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.719 and I feel like that's the best information that the 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.320 average person should have instead of scaring them and saying 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.680 they need to bring their computer in or stop using 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.640 your computer. Here's how you figure it out. And if 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.960 you can't figure it out using the instructions I give you, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.160 well take it to someone who can ask someone that's younger, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.800 like a teenager. They figure out this stuff very quickly. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.599 But anyway, back to the Google stuff, So Google said 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.880 they explained kind of like how this is working. Their 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.640 AI overviews kind of work differently than a chatbot like 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.320 open AI because they're not just generating outputs based on 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:19.040 training data. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:20.160 What they're done. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.640 What they're doing is they're actually using kind of the 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:27.640 core Google search algorithm to come up with trusted websites 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.880 that generate these AI overviews using high quality links from 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.200 their index. Well, that means that these AI overviews don't 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:39.400 necessarily hallucinate like open AI and chat GBT and all 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:43.320 of these AI systems. Do these chatbots hallucinate They make 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.000 up stuff because what they're really doing is they are 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.400 just figuring out the next word in a sentence based 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:53.159 on millions of sentences that they've seen. So when you say, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.239 you know, what's the most popular flavors for ice cream, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.120 they look through all of the databases that they have 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.560 and they've seen that a lot of people have written 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.360 that the most popular flavors for ice cream are vanilla 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.680 and chocolate and strawberry, and they will write that up 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.520 and summarize that. Now, when AI overviews get it wrong, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:16.520 according to Google, it's usually for other reasons. They misinterpret queries, 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.800 they misinterpret the nuance of language on the web, or 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.840 they don't have a lot of great information available. Remember 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.480 that last one, because that's the one that really got 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.240 this thing into trouble. So Google says that they did 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.960 test this feature extensively before launch, but when millions of 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.200 people starting start to use it, well, guess what, you're 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.320 gonna find some things out about this that you didn't 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.640 find before. Some of the things that people implied they 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.240 returned were dangerous results for topics like leaving dogs in cars, 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:49.520 smoking while pregnant, and depression. Those AI overviews, Google says, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.320 never appeared. So we encourage anyone encountering any sort of 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.960 screenshots like that to do a search for yourself, which 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.920 probably a lot of people don't do. They just share 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.240 it on social media with out actually searching. One example 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.400 that I saw and a lot of people saw, was 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.840 how many rocks should I eat now? Prior to these 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.880 screenshots going viral, Google said, nobody ever asked that question 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.360 of Google. And so they call this a data void 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.440 or an information gap. That means there's a limited amount 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.960 of high quality content about a topic. So what happens. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.960 AI overview goes to the one website that it found 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.880 information about that, and that's what it used to craft 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.360 its answer. In this case, it might have been a 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.320 form and there's a lot of good information in there, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.920 but sometimes there's less than helpful advice and also sarcastic 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.120 and trolley content. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:40.960 So what to do? 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.559 It cited that content and this is where it got 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.440 into trouble, Like using glue to get cheese to stick 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.640 to pizza. Nobody ever asked how do you get cheese 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.160 to stick to pizza? And nobody ever answered you should 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.560 use glue except someone in a form and that's what 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:59.360 Google sited. So where does this all go. Google can't 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.160 just go through and fix everything that it thinks people 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.000 are going to ask, So they have to come up 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.240 with a framework for this system, and that's what they've done. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.320 So they've improved their framework for getting better answers in 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.760 these AI overviews. So they've built better detection mechanisms for 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.240 nonsensical queries. So if I say, how many bites does 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.400 it take to eat a MacBook laptop? Google AI search 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.200 results is not going to attempt to answer that anymore 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.560 because it knows that that's just nonsensical. Nobody asks now 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.600 if you ask how many licks does it take to 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.120 get to the center of a TUTSI pop? Sure people 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.720 might ask that, and they might end up answering that. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.400 And by the way, do we ever figure out the 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.600 answer for that? Because that was a commercial that was 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.600 a part of my childhood for many years, and I 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.280 think at the end of the commercial. It always ended 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.120 in a chump, right, Oh, it's four four licks and 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:50.719 three licks. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.640 And then a chump. So that's what happened. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.440 They've updated their system to limit the use of a 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.920 of user generated content and response that could offer misleading advice, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.520 and they added triggering restrictions for questions where AI overviews 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.160 were not proving to be helpful, and for topics like 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.080 news and health they already have strong guardrails in place. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.360 For instance, they probably will not show AI overviews for 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.640 hard news topics because freshness is a big part of 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.839 questions like that. So when you ask a question about 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.080 the news something that just happened, yes, Google might have 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.559 it in its index in Google News, but it might 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.560 not have made it to the broader index of Google Search, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.160 and so the AI overview will not be a good 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.640 way to answer that. So this is the real story, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.320 and that's really what happened. And everyone gave up on 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.440 Google last week or this week because of these AI overviews. 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.280 But as we understand, a lot of them were faked, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.400 a lot of them were just nonsensical. And yes, you 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.920 can ask anything in this world a nonsensical question and 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.560 get a nonsensical answer, so we will see how Google 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.280 continues to develop. They're AI overviews, but that is the 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.400 real story, all right. Coming up on today's show, I 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.920 will tell you how to remove that VPN malware if 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:09.920 it is on your computer. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.160 But first let's take some of your calls. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.839 Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.840 four to two four one zero one. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.040 My name is Rich Dmiro. This is rich on Tech. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.040 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.719 out with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.520 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:37.960 four one zero one. The website for the show richontech 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.440 dot tv. You can send me an email there by 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:46.000 hitting the contact link or uh. 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Mark, You're on with Rich. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.800 Hey Rich, good morning morning. What do you what brand 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:31.320 do you recommend for a car dash cam for like, 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.679 let's say two hundred dollars in under. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.280 Well, there's a couple that I've tested that I really like. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.720 I think it really comes down to kind of what 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:41.760 you want and how much you want to pay. So 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.960 I think that the number one thing to figure out 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.000 is do you want this to be connected? Like do 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.240 you want a cellular connection on this? Because if someone 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.880 were to take the dash cam, they would have all 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.080 the footage, So the cellular helps you get alerts and 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.920 also helps you have that footage go to the cloud. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.319 Is that something that interests you because those are a 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.320 little bit more expensive? 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:10.360 Yeah, Like probably not, because I have seen some for 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.240 like four and five hundred dollars. Yeah, and I just 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.199 can't pay for that. It has to be like two 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:16.120 hundred or under. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:16.600 Okay. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.320 So there is a brand new brand. This just came out, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.520 And this is a brand that I've tested in the 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.600 past that I really like. It's called Nexsar. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:25.440 Have you seen those? 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:27.320 No? 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:27.840 I have not. 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.760 Okay, So what I think a good dash cam comes 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.480 down to. Now, By the way, you can go on 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.839 Amazon search dash cams and you can find one for 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.040 forty bucks. Right, So there are many many dash cams 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.000 out there. I think what really sets apart If you 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.400 just want to point and shoot kind of camera that's 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.760 going to be in your car and roll every time 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.600 you're in there, any of those are gonna work. The 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.720 real difference, I think comes down to the software. How 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.120 tough is it to set this thing up? How tough 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.080 is it to get video off of it when you 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.760 actually need that video? And I think that's what's going 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.199 to make some of them a little bit more expensive 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.480 than the cheap knockoffs. So the big brand a couple 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.080 of the brands that I like that I've tested, Nextsar, 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.680 n e x Ar. They just came out with a 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.200 brand new one called the Beam two dash cam. And 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.160 what I like about this one is that not only 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:21.000 is the software from Nextsar really really good, they have 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.080 a bunch of different versions of this, so they have 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.920 you know, that's the other question you need to ask yourself, Mark, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.720 do you want the road and the cabin or do 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.560 you just want the road, because some of these are, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.960 you know, dual cameras where it records front and back, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.840 so that's another thing to take into consideration. But this 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.240 one has a sixty four gigabyte model for two hundred dollars, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.400 and then you've got a it goes up to three 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.760 hundred dollars for the for the dual mode one. And 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.480 then there's also this one does include for two hundred 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:58.160 dollars the cellular connection. So there is a monthly fee 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.560 of ten dollars a month or eight dollars a month 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.280 if you pay yearly. So that's just one option. They 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.400 also have other cameras that are not connected, that are 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.240 just standalone, and I really just like the brand and 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.400 I like the way that their software works. So Nexstar 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:13.520 is one of them. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:14.760 Let's see. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.640 The other one that I've tested that I really like 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:21.560 is from Vava va Va and so this one i've tested. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.440 The software is decent, the camera's good, it's got a 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.720 nice design, it works really well, and so you can 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.720 find those for under two hundred dollars. A lot of 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.440 them are sold out on their website, so I'm not 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.040 sure what's going on there, but I would check into those. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.800 And then the one that gets the brand that keeps 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.680 coming up over and over and all these sort of 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.240 like review sites is called Van True v A N 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.560 T r U E. Now I have not tested that 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.520 brand personally, but it does come up in a lot 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.920 of these review sites that people seem to like it. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.440 And the other thing to keep in mind is that 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.680 when you run these dash cams, there is a cable 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.800 typically and that could get kind of annoying. So just 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.680 kind of keep a look at how this thing connects. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.120 Some of them connect to the oh gosh, what's that 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.000 port called like the OBD port or whatever it's called. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:10.000 Uh. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.359 So that's like, you know, that's the left. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.360 Of your of your steering wheel down below by the 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.360 you know, the gears and all that stuff, or the 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:18.360 you know, the gas pedal. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:20.880 So that's one way. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.600 Other way another way they connect is just going into 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.560 like what used to be called the cigarette lighter. I 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.960 guess they call it what the the power port, right, right, 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.640 whatever that thing's called these days, right, the uh you know, 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.680 so you just have to remember, like, you know, the 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.320 running the cable could also be an issue. But you know, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.160 a lot of them come with tools in the box 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.960 to help you run it along your dash, down the 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.440 side of the door and then over. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.520 So those are a couple of brands. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.520 The other websites I would check out that I like 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.680 is Wirecutter if you've heard of them. They they were 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.680 a great independent site. They were bought by the New 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.320 York Times, but they still do some pretty good reviews. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:58.600 I would check them. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.440 And then the other one is best Reviews dot com, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.720 which is owned by the parent company of the TV 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.359 station I work for. But those are some good places 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.040 to start. It will all be linked up on the 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.960 website rich on Tech dot tv. Thanks for the call. 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.160 Mark eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:21.120 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Welcome 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.879 back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.560 with you talking technology at triple eight rich one oh 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.520 one eight eight eight seven four to. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.840 Two four one zero one. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.800 I hope you're having a fantastic day. So this week, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.680 the US, along with some international partners and authorities, took 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:47.680 down a major major botnet. This is the nine to 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:53.040 eleven S five botnet. This was active from May twenty 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:58.280 fourteen to July twenty twenty two, and then it came 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.959 back again in October twenty twenty three. So this thing 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.800 has been around for a very long time. It compromised 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.679 over nineteen million computers globally. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:10.160 What does that mean. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.480 It means that all of these people downloaded software to 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.080 their computer that they thought would do one thing, but 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.280 it was actually turning their computer into a secret zombie. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.639 That this, you know, these bad actors could use to 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.720 carry out crimes, and they used it to carry out 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.679 cyber crimes and fraud and harassment and all kinds of 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.680 things because it looked like, you know, these computers at 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.040 big companies, right, they can detect when they're seeing fraud 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.960 because it comes from registered IP addresses that they sort 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.840 of know. It's like a block of IPS that they say, Okay, 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.960 this looks odd, but when it comes from your computer 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.160 in your house, it does not look odd. And we're 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.239 seeing this kind of attack happening more and more, and 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.959 so the FBI took this down and they put instructions 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.560 on the web to help people figure out if they 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:06.439 were running this VPN software. That's what it was, if 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.159 they're running this VPN malware on their computer. So the 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:17.119 names of this VPN malware mask, VPN, Do VPN, DW 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:25.240 Paladin VPN, Proxy, gate Shield VPN, and Shine VPN. So 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.200 all of these people downloaded this software thinking, oh, I 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.440 can use a free VPN online that I found and 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.160 next thing, you know, you would never realize that your 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.600 computer is doing nefarious things in the background. So how 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.640 do you find if this is on your computer? Well, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.359 you search for it. You can go into your task 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.840 manager by pressing control alt delete and looking for the 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.440 processes named mask, do or you know the other ones 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.960 I mentioned. You can use the start menu to search 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.720 for any of the VPN names listed above that I 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.680 just mentioned, and you can go to your ad or 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.160 remove programs and search for the malicious software names there. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:07.080 There's also a more geeky way of looking and file explorer, 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.240 but that's if you're really advanced. The bottom line, I 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.120 did get a good question on my Facebook page. Someone asked, hey, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.520 is my malware bytes going to detect this? And malware 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.359 bytes actually did a blog post about it, but they 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.200 don't make it really clear if it detects this software 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.800 in the background. But they said you should look for 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.120 this manually and then do a manual scan of your computer. 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.960 So That's what I would do. Even if you're running 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.680 something like a malware bytes or any of these other programs, 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.399 I would just take a look and make sure that 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:45.280 none of these VPN applications are listed on your machine, 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.680 and if they are, get them off of there because 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.840 you don't want them on there. Mask VPN, Do VPN, 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:56.280 Paladin VPN, proxygate Shield VPN, and Shine VPN. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:57.520 All of those. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.720 Instructions are on the website. Go to Rich on tech 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.359 dot tv. You can tap the latest newsletter that is 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.680 information is in there, or you can tap the light 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.679 bulb and that will bring you to the link for 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:14.320 that FBI information. Let's go to John in studio, John 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:15.600 in Fallbrook, California. 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:16.560 John, you're on with Rich. 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.720 Thanks Rich, enjoy your show. Thank you for taking my question. 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:27.040 Yeah, I have I have an R low Pro five camera, okay, 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.399 and I can't seem to hook it up to my 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:37.720 WiFi and I'm using LTE at home with Verizon. I 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.680 had one of these cameras before, the. 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:45.080 Same model, and I had hooked it up and it 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:49.000 was connected to the WiFi and then the battery went dead, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.359 so I brought it in and charged it and I 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.159 never was able to communicate again, so I called Arlow. 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.359 They sent me a new one and I can't get 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.720 connected now an ideas. 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:06.200 Okay, so you have you have the rlow camera, and 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.320 you have you have the Verizon Home Internet box. 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.440 Yeah, LTE at home right. 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.399 Okay, So and that puts out a Wi Fi signal. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:21.200 That's correct, it's a router, a cell, a cell signal 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.040 that goes into a router into a WiFi got it? 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.639 Okay, yeah, just their standard. So have you. 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:31.640 So I'm guessing that this camera is on the two 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:37.480 point four gigahertz network, and your Verizon box is putting 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.760 out a five g signal, a five gigahertz signal as 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.960 it's as its base signal, and this camera is not 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:45.040 finding the other one. 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.479 So do you know it puts out a five and 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.439 a two point four okay, And I'm almost sure that 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:55.160 it's on the two point four. 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.680 It's on the same network that the other one was on, 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.399 and it's the same network that my phone uses. But 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.400 one of my TVs uses the five. 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.920 Okay, yeah, if it's newer. The five is the newer, 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.800 kind of more robust network. So what I would do 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:18.320 here is I would factory reset this camera to get 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:18.760 it back. 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:19.440 Have you done that. 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:25.720 There? I have used the SINC button. I don't know 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.840 if any factory reset. 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.560 Okay, So I would just a quick search online for 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.280 r LOW and then factory reset. So I would start 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.840 fresh with this camera and I would try to connect 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.040 it to your router that way and see going through 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:40.320 the setup process. 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:41.120 That's number one. 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.479 If that does not work, then I would flip that 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.960 little Verizon Home Internet box over. There is instructions on 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.719 the bottom on how to connect to the actual box 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.479 to modify the network. 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:54.879 Have you been into those settings at all? 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:57.080 No? 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.000 I haven't, Okay, so proceed with caution because you don't 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.160 want to change a lot of stuff and mess things up. 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.440 But what you're looking for is a way to temporarily 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:12.119 turn off that five gigahertz spectrum, that five gigahertz band 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:16.320 on that Verizon box, just to connect this camera. And 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.720 then once the camera gets connected to that, because that 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.919 will be the only network that it sees, hopefully it'll 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.240 just go on there and then you can turn on 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.639 that five gigahertz network again. It seems like you're not 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.240 the only one having this problem. If you look up online, 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.359 I'm sure you've seen that. There are some there are 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:37.840 some other folks having the same issue, but everyone that 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:41.600 I'm seeing it sounds like the reset will definitely make 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.359 this work again. I think what's happening is your camera 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.040 is looking for that other network that it used to remember, 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.600 and it's not finding that for some reason. And so 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.080 I think you just need to reset this camera back 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:56.640 to factory and then hopefully it will find that two 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:58.280 point four spectrum. 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:00.280 Good question, John. 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.200 We often get that question a lot of people having 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.919 trouble with some devices, with these routers. It's just it's 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:11.040 doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen. Teresa 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.560 in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania writes in Hey, Rich, I have a 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.320 question regarding paying my bills using a password manager. I 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.400 understand how to set it up, but the password manager 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.840 acts as a safe for all my accounts and their passwords. 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:22.240 Correct. 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.840 When I open up the password manager using the master 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.440 password and gain access to my best Buy account using 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.560 my best Buy username and password to pay my bill, 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.280 this is where I'm confused. Thanks for your time, Teresa, 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.040 So you're correct. The password manager does act as a 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.040 vault for all of your accounts and their passwords, and 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.320 most of them will actually log you in. So when 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.679 you go to the best Buy website, if you have 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:48.000 that information saved in your password manager, it will automatically 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.199 fill that information in without you doing much and it 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.119 will actually even log you in. Now, if it doesn't 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.160 do that, or you're not comfortable with that, you can 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.399 just open up your password manager when you need to 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.200 log into best Buy again, and you would just go 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.960 and search best Buy inside your vault and you would 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.240 just copy the password from the manager and then paste 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.000 it into the best Buy website. Usually your username is 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.199 your email address. You don't need to copy and paste that. 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.800 But those are the two ways you do it. It 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.320 is very straightforward, it is very simple. But ninety nine 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.200 percent of the time these password managers are actually going 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.480 to just fill in the information on their own. There's 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.160 not much you have to do. Sometimes, if the website's 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.080 a little different or a little off, which you need 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.639 to be careful about, it will say, hey, are you 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.600 sure this is the website? Are you sure you want 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.359 us to paste this in? I've noticed that they've gotten 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.119 pretty smart about pasting stuff in. But otherwise, you can 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.639 always go into your password manager and just manually copy 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.479 and paste that password. You just have to remember that 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:49.280 strong master password for your vault and keep that in 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.720 a safe place somewhere in your head. And also set 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.760 up two factor authentication. Great question if you have one. 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.280 Go to the website rich on Tech dot TV. Hit contact. 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.479 All right, coming up, I'm gonna tell you about this 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:04.719 new fit Bit ace lte, the new smart watch for kids. 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.200 Find out how it keeps them active and keeps parents connected. 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.280 Eighty eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.320 four to two four one zero one. 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:19.720 This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.280 Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.919 Triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.560 four two four one zero one. Hope you don't mind 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.880 the trip down memory lane. We're playing some ninety songs 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:34.560 this weekend. 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:36.400 I just looked it up. 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:41.160 That song kissed Me by sixpence none the Richer came 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.080 out twenty. 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:44.440 Seven years ago. 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.679 Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, I cannot believe that 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.719 I was. You know, if you listen to like a 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:57.239 classy a classic station, like a classic rock, sometimes they 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.720 play songs from like like We're getting up there in 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.359 those anyway. It's just like when I when I was 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.520 growing up, classic songs were like. 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.359 I don't know, I don't whatever. Anyway, it's not a 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:13.439 music show. Uh, let's go to Fran. Let's go to 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:14.560 Fran and Studio City. 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:14.760 Fran. 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:15.520 You're on with Rich. 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:18.200 Hi Rich, longtime fan. 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.840 So I'm in the market for a new TV. 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:27.960 And currently we want to keep our spectrum. 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.840 Because we have a DVR, and we use a Roku, 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.800 and we have an LG an older LG TV that 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.960 won't let me update any more apps or anything like that. 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:45.600 So what's annoying is that every time we need to 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:50.680 go to, say spectrum, we have to change the input. 0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:55.440 And so I'm looking at the TVs and someone told 0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:01.520 me that a Samsung has Spectrum built in in, so 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:07.760 we wouldn't have that issue. But I'm an big Apple user. 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.080 I have Apple all over the house. 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:17.120 Apple airport extenders, and I'm wondering if that's if I 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:23.400 go to Samsung, if it's going to uh interfere with 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:28.040 my Apple setup, you just give. 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:29.960 Me more headache. Do you have an Apple TV? 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.160 Nokay not, so what's your Apple set up? 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:40.080 With the with the TV situation, It's just right now. 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:46.959 It's a USB into an airport, an airport extender. 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.080 Okay, so you're not using you're not using any aspect 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.520 of your Apple stuff with the TVs. 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.560 The only thing I have is an older Apple TV, 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.320 you know, one of those little squares, and and I 0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:07.880 do use that occasionally to make it easy to access 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.280 Apple screen sharing. 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.120 Okay, is that connected to your main TV? 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:14.520 Pardon me? 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.160 Is that connected to your main TV? 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.880 I can connect it because I have four HDMI ports. 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.400 Okay, Well here here's what I would say. So a 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.120 couple of things here. Number one, you've got the DVR 0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.240 from Spectrum. You don't want to give that up because 0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.600 you you like your DVR, you like your programs, you 0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:32.520 like switching channels. 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:33.640 Is that what I'm understanding? 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.200 Yeah, mainly mainly to the ballgame. 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.520 But yeah, no, I get it way, I get it too. 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.880 So there there is a Spectrum TV app, and I 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.840 think that's what your friend is referring to. And Samsung, 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.120 according to the Spectrum website, Samsung Smart TVs do have 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.760 that app. So theoretically you could ditch the box on 0:30:55.800 --> 0:31:00.400 this TV, use the Samsung Smart TV interface onload the 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.160 apps for like Netflix and things like that and then 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.280 you can also just open up the Spectrum app. 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.400 Now that would be without a box. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:12.200 So, uh, I don't want to eliminate the buvenant, Okay, No. 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:16.080 We want to be able to use the DVR, fast forward, 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.400 go back, record stuff, all of that. 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.400 Yeah, and some of that you can do on the 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.000 on this Spectrum app. I personally I use the Spectrum app. I. 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.480 It's not as easy as the actual box, of course, 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.840 not because it's an app and you know the channels 0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:31.160 and things. 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:32.800 Everything's just kind of a little bit. 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.080 Right, and my husband is app resistant. 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:36.720 Okay, so that's fine. 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.800 So if you want to get a TV and you 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.640 want a smart TV, there's a couple of ways you 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.720 can do this. Number one, you can get what's called 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.640 the Fire TV Cube. And what's neat about the Fire 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.600 TV Cube is that you can have all the smart 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.640 stuff on your screen, but your your DVR from Spectrum 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.920 actually plugs into the back of that and then that 0:31:58.960 --> 0:31:59.840 plugs into your TV. 0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:00.680 So what that. 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.440 Means is that you when you so you see your 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.800 DVR all day like your TV is just the way 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.160 it is right, just the way it is today with 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.640 your with your Spectrum DVR. But when you want to 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.440 watch Netflix, all you have to do is press a 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.680 button on the Fire TV remote and without changing an input, 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:20.480 it's just gonna overlay Netflix on top of your screen already. 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.440 So it's one input for your entire setup. Now, that 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.640 box is a little expensive because it's a it's over 0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.760 one hundred dollars. Plus you have the TV, plus you 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.080 have your DVR. But that's the cleanest setup that I 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.160 can think of. If you want to continue using that 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.520 DVR box and go with a smart TV. Now, if 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.160 you just go with a Samsung Smart TV, you can 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.400 still use the smart TV, but yes, you are gonna 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.800 have to change inputs every time you want to use 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.960 that DVR with Spectrum and then switch to something like 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.640 a Netflix, it will have to switch to that that 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:55.680 Netflix input. 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.480 Okay, that's on the smart TV kind of side of things. 0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:05.560 Currently, we're currently using ro coup because on our other 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:10.880 TVs in the house, we use the Spectrum. 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.440 App on the ro coup. 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:17.080 Okay, yeah, so you already understand what that set up is, Like, 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.080 what are you asking me? What are you trying to 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:20.520 figure out? 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:25.120 That's why I, uh, well, I've been you know, we've 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.720 been a big fan of the l G TVs. They've 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:35.920 been great, So I guess when I when I was 0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:41.640 investigating them, somebody said that the Sanson TV is a 0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.400 better option for people that. 0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:48.880 Want to eliminate one of the uh, you know, eliminate 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.160 changing the import or. 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.160 Eliminate one of the remote. 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.880 So I don't know, but I guess what I want 0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:08.200 to know is what does Samsung TV If it. 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:12.600 Does eliminate one of the remote will it interfere with 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.440 my Apple setup? 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.040 I don't think it's going to interfere with your Apple setup, 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.520 but a couple of things. I would look for a 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.239 TV that has airplay built in. A lot of these 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.840 smart TVs do, which means you'll be able to share 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.920 stuff from your iPhone screen to that TV. Various brands 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.799 now have that built in, so I would look for 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.520 airplay on that TV. 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:35.000 Okay. 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:36.960 And then when it comes to whether you go with 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.879 Samsung or LG, if you like LG, stick with LG. 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.200 I am not sure if it will eliminate any sort 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.759 of remote control or anything, because if you want to 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.560 use that Spectrum DVR, that's going to be on one 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.960 input and then the other input is going to have 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.399 all of the smart stuff all of the smarts from 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:57.080 the TV. That's generally how they work. So unless the 0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:01.280 lgtvs are overlaying the smarts on top of the spectrum box, 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.680 go with the TV you want. Just make sure it 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.040 has airplace you can use all your Apple stuff and 0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.640 make sure the smart TV supports the apps that you. 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:11.239 Want to use. 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.160 Eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.400 seven four to two four one zero one. This is 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.799 rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:26.720 Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology at Triple 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:31.000 A rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.480 four two four one zero one. 0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:36.160 Coming up. 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:44.840 There we go, gotta get the hook, like Bobo says. 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.840 Coming up this hour, we're gonna talk to JP Schmtz, 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:57.320 CEO of ghoste. He is a digital privacy expert and advocate. Plus, 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.840 I'll tell you about Amazon Prime members get a tasty 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:06.080 new perk, and how Google is auto enrolling Android devices 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:07.920 in the Find my network. 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.200 I'll tell you what you need to know. 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.919 Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:15.799 four to two four one zero one. 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:16.960 My name is rich Demiro. 0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.279 This is the show where we talk about the tech 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.719 stuff I think you should know about. Just got a 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:27.120 message from my wife. My child has won the championships 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:32.680 for his little league baseball team. 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:33.880 That is very exciting. 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:40.080 So congrats to my uh my child Tanner, who has 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:41.600 been playing baseball for a while. 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:41.879 Now. 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.520 Speaking of kids, Tanner is actually helping me test out 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:50.080 a new gadget. It's called the Fitbit ace LTE. This 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.400 is a fitbit, but it's really a smart watch for 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.040 kids and their parents. 0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.000 Oh we are the champions. Here we go. 0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:04.799 We got a little celebration song. Oh here we go 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.359 sounds so good. Sadly, no one on the podcast will 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:13.400 be able to enjoy this. Did you play baseball? 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:13.520 Bo? 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:13.719 Bo? 0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:14.680 No? 0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:23.600 I played football? Football? Okay, there we go. Our kids 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:28.239 listening to this song at this point, There we go. 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:34.759 It's actually amazing. As a mark of modern technology, I'm 0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.120 able to keep an eye on my kids game right here. 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.480 I've got a little They stream the games. 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.400 I mean if you would have told me that ten 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.279 years ago, I would never would have believed it. But yeah, 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.120 they they have cameras at these fields and you can 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.040 just watch online. 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.279 Anyway. Congratulations to them. 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.279 Yes, as I was talking about, he is helping me 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.400 test this new Fitbit ace LTE. This is a smart 0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:01.040 watch design for kids ages seven and uh and what 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.239 it's meant to do is help them combine exercise with 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.120 play to encourage an active lifestyle. But it also helps 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:11.640 mom and dad and guardians and grandparents keep in touch 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:16.200 with your child. So it combines the tracking element, the 0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:21.040 physical activity tracking element, with actual location tracking, calls and texts. 0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:22.560 So let me tell you about this device. 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.480 It's got interactive games built in that reward physical activity. 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.719 So yesterday when Tanner started setting this thing up, he goes, Dad, 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:31.640 I can't play any of the games. I said, well, yeah, 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.440 you got to get out there and move before it 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.319 unlocks the games. So that's kind of interesting. It's got 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:41.200 activity tracking, so there's this noodle activity ring. It's got 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.560 an EG. I hope I'm saying that right. These are 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:49.280 little customizable creatures that get healthier and happier as kids 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.560 meet their activity goals. So Tanner was of course customizing 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.920 his EG to look like him, which was kind of fun. 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.680 And then when it comes to privacy and safety, parents 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.359 can view their child's location and their activity data. This 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.919 is protected and deleted after a set period of time, 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.760 so twenty four hours for location data thirty five days 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:13.719 for activity. Parents can always call, send, and receive messages, 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.000 and manage contacts through the fitbit ace app. I will 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.919 talk about more of that in a moment, because that's 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.400 the interesting part of this whole thing. There is a 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.720 school time mode. There is water resistance up to fifty meters, 0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.720 sixteen hours of battery life between charges. Comes with strong 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:33.759 glass for scratch resistance, a bumper that's included to keep 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:37.920 this thing from hitting the wall. My kids have Apple Watches, 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.440 and a lot of times they'll hit the wall with 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.080 the Apple Watch and it scratches it or it cracks 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.200 the screen. It's happened with both of them. So if 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:46.799 you have an Apple Watch, get one of those little 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:50.759 plastic screen protectors or glass screen protectors to save you 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.200 a headache of getting a three hundred dollars screen repair. 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.479 There's also six different bands. The bands are unique because 0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.120 each one of them looks unique. But when you you 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.120 snap it onto the watch, it changes the watch face 0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.040 and it kind of changes the whole theme of the watch. 0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:05.960 That's kind of fun. 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.960 So this is two hundred and thirty dollars, which I 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.040 know is very expensive, but a lot of parents are 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.239 looking for something like this, and a lot of the 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.440 current solutions out there are pretty bad. If it's not 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:24.920 the Apple Watch, it goes downhill very very fast. Data 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.200 is ten dollars a month, or one hundred and twenty 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.000 dollars for the year if you buy one. Now they're 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.560 slashing that in half, so she'll get your first year 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.759 of data for sixty dollars. So all in for the 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.240 first year, you're looking at about two hundred and ninety dollars. 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:44.200 That includes the watch and the service. It's available June 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.759 fifth through the Google Store and Amazon. Now Here is 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.040 what I've noticed the catches. And by the way, we're 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.040 gonna have a Neil's subber wall of Google Fitbit to 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.319 discuss this in more detail in the third hour of 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:56.800 the show. 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.160 But I figure I tell you all about this watch. 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.839 And my observation because here's what I noticed setting up 0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:08.160 this watch. This is not a classic cellular connected watch 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.520 as you might expect. There is no phone number for 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.239 this device as far as I can tell, so it 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:19.439 is LTE connected, but all of the calling and all 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.720 of the texting and messaging actually goes through the app. 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:23.600 What does that mean? 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.040 It means that to set people up to be able 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.680 to communicate with this watch. It's a little trickier than 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.919 just giving out a phone number. And I think that's 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.239 the biggest thing that parents should know if you are 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.759 thinking about buying this compared to something like an Apple Watch. So, 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.240 for instance, with the Apple Watch, both of my kids 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.640 have an assigned phone number. I can give you that 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.120 phone number, just like I can any other device. 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:45.360 In the world. 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.839 Anyone can text or call that phone number. Now that's 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:51.879 good and that's bad. It makes it easy to get 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.160 in touch with it, but it makes it bad for 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.520 you know, a random person can text them. My kids 0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:00.440 get they actually get invites, like club events, like the 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.040 kind of stuff that Bobo's promoting on his social media. 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.600 Like it'll be like, hey, come up to the eighteen 0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:09.880 plus club on Friday night. It's like free, free entry 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.000 for guys before midnight. And my kids, You're like, what 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.919 is this And so I'm like, now that's a spam text, 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:16.719 I mean, or it's just misdirected. 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.080 I'm promoting because it's my birthday party. It is your 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.720 birthday is this week. It's Wednesday, the fifth, the national holiday. 0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:28.520 That's it. It's the Bobo Holiday. Yes, it is Bobo's birthday. 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:32.879 How do you feel about turning what you're turning. I'm 0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.000 proud to turn to forty one. It's a milestone. 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.359 Well I think forty is a milestone. Well, forty one 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.520 is the milestone. There you go. I just feel older. Yeah, 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.399 woke up this morning and my knee was already hurt. 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:50.440 The power of suggestion. I'm getting older. But you do 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.400 notice as you get older that you know you're getting older. 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.120 When you move, you make sounds. 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:55.560 As you move like. 0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:01.680 Ow yeah, and you will have that moment when when 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.720 you move just a certain way and all of a sudden, 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:07.360 it's just you crick something and it's it's that's it. 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:11.000 It's gonna feel that way for a week. Well, happy birthday, Bobo. 0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.759 So that is the main thing to know about this 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.879 device is that adding contacts like I want to add 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.520 my kid as one of the contacts like his brother 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.759 and said, okay, you need a Gmail account. So it 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.600 seems like the person that has that wants to contact 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.920 this device has to go through the fitbit Ace app, 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.480 which is a little weird. It's a little wonky. It's 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.239 not as like straightforward. Now with that said, I think 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.960 for a kid ages seven to twelve. It's probably not 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.160 a bad idea. You're if you're a parent, you're gonna 0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:42.160 download this app. It's gonna be very simple to text 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.640 back and forth with your kids to see where they 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.040 are on a map. It's all very good. It's just 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.279 I think you just need to know that one little 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:53.000 key aspect of it is that it's not a phone 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.960 number assigned to this watch. So as long as you're 0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.320 cool with that, I think this is a really, really 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.480 good solution. The software is excellent, the device is excellent 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:03.000 so far. 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:03.960 I'm still testing it. 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.239 I'll have my full review soon, but I think that 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.160 that is what you need to know about the fitbit 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:09.160 ace LTE. 0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:10.359 I will have a. 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.480 Full interview a little bit later on in the show. 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:14.520 All right, we'll get to some more questions in a 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:17.120 moment at eight eight eight rich one one eight eight 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.520 eight seven four to two four one zero one before 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:24.080 we go to break. Amazon has a new Prime perk. 0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.279 You now get grub Hub Plus membership if you are 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.680 a Prime member for free and ongoing. This is supposedly 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.400 worth one hundred and twenty dollars annually. 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.200 But give me a break. 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.520 You are paying so much extra if you are ever 0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:44.839 ordering anything online to be delivered to your house. And yes, 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.360 they can say, oh, you're getting zero delivery fees on 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:50.880 eligible orders over twelve dollars, but you're still paying a 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:55.600 service fee, and those service fees more than makeup for whatever. 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.759 So yes, you're paying less than a person that's just 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.480 coming to the Grubhub app that doesn't have them membership, 0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.880 but you're still paying a premium to get someone to 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.480 go to a restaurant, pick up your food and bring 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.719 it to your house. That's how these things work. And 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.200 we did it last night. Nothing against it. We did 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.480 DoorDash last night and it's great. It is convenience. It 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.840 was seven dollars more to have someone bring it to 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:17.719 my house then for me to go pick it up. 0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:21.640 But on a Friday night, do I feel like going out? No, 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:23.919 I just wanted to go home and have someone bring 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.200 my food to me, so I paid that premium. 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.480 Do I do it every night? Absolutely not. 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.280 It is way too expensive to order food through these apps. 0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.720 They do have a promotional offer so now through June. 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.360 Now through is it June second, it's only a couple 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.400 more days. Prime members can save five dollars on a 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.040 Grubhub order over twenty five dollars using the code prime five. 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.759 The other news here is that you can order Grubhub 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:54.160 through the Amazon App, so one less app on your phone. 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.239 You do have to activate it, but if you go 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:58.839 to the Amazon app and you search grubhub, you can 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.960 activate the Grubhub within the Amazon app, and you can 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:06.440 also activate that free prime five code. Let me just 0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:10.279 confirm that it that it actually expires when it does, 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.400 because you've got to act on that fast if you 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:16.719 want it. Let's see zero dollar. Yeah, it's only through 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:20.600 June second, so if you want to, yeah, basically this weekend. 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:21.160 So that's it. 0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.319 Five dollars off your twenty five dollars order. But you 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.560 now get Grubhub plus for the entire year. It used 0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.359 to be once you signed up for it renew at 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:31.359 one hundred and twenty dollars. 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:33.560 They're only doing it as like a promo. Now it's 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:34.879 going to be indefinitely. 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.400 Eighty to eight Rich one O one eight eight eight 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.720 seven four to two four one zero one. 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:40.839 This is rich on Tech. 0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.799 More rich on Tech coming your way right after this. 0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:48.640 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.959 technology at eighty to eight rich one O one eight 0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.839 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.760 the website for the show rich on Tech dot TV, 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.799 and you can find me on social media. I am 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.160 at you guessed it, rich on Tech. 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:06.359 Let's go to. 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:12.000 Don in Rancho, Palos Verdes, California. Don Dan, you're on 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:12.480 with Rich. 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.920 Yeah, Hi, Rich. I got a question about passwords. I 0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:23.160 had these password compromises, and that says I should change 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.120 the password. And then I go and look on it. 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.920 There's one hundred and fifty five passwords I have to 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:29.640 take care. 0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:33.080 Of that were compromised, or that you have total? 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:37.640 Well I have total, but there there's that many compromised 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.240 and I should change the password immediately. 0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:47.520 I'm like, wow, okay, that does seem overwhelming. Yeah, what's 0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.759 telling you that these passwords are compromised? 0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.719 I just says that there was a data leak, and 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:58.200 I heard something on Ticketmaster was compromised. I noticed Ticketmaster 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:02.120 is one of the account. 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.600 But which which app is telling you that these are compromised? 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.080 Is it Google? Chrome? Is it the I FID. 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:10.560 Would to ge let me see it would be where 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.840 you just check on password. So have I been on 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:14.480 the computer? 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.080 Have I? Oh, oh, so on your computer on your 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:19.440 Chrome web browser. 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.920 Uh, Chrome, I'm not sure. I don't see Chrome. I 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:24.760 think it's a Google. 0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:25.480 Okay. 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.840 So if you go to passwords dot Google dot com, 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:30.959 is that okay? If you go there and you're looking 0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.040 at password check up, is that what. 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:40.520 You're I'm on passwords it says detect compromise password security 0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:44.040 recommendation okay, and what not? Sure what it's under? 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.439 Yeah, like what's telling you to do that? Because that's 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:47.320 that's my question. 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.680 I don't now are you using the same password across 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.480 all one hundred and fifty five websites? 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.680 No, of course not. Okay, so they're different. 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.680 I doubt that all of your past Are you using 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:01.640 a password manager? 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.520 No, I'm not. That's what I was wondering. Okay, should 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:06.400 I go to that? 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:07.480 Yeah? I would. 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.839 So what I would do is if you're gonna, if 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.560 you're gonna embark on this password change. Now, first off, 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.000 I'm a little concerned as to what is serving up 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.880 this message to you because it sounds a little bit fishy, 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.040 and so I'm a little concerned that you know, something 0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:25.319 is maliciously trying to serve you up a message. But 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.319 I you know, without knowing what's telling you to change 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.000 these passwords. Here's what I would do. My main thing 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.080 is that I think you should try to get a 0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.279 password manager in use, and if you're using I have 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:39.759 a couple of recommendations for that. 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:46.920 So if you're using to use an iPhone or Android iPhone, okay, so, 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.160 and you're using a Chrome web browser on your computer. 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:52.960 I believe it's Google. 0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.600 It's it's Google, okay, so Google Chrome. 0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:59.840 So I would you could use the Google Chrome built 0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:03.040 in password manager. So if you go on Google Chrome 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.839 upper right hand corner, there's three little dots and that's 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.960 the menu button. If you go to passwords and autofill, 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:15.080 there is an option called Google Password Manager, and you 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.040 can start using that to save your passwords and to 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:21.680 also generate your passwords. And then on your iPhone, you 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:26.000 want to go in and actually set the Google Password 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.960 Manager as your preferred autofill and then anytime you encounter 0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.719 a website that you need to log into, Google will 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:34.920 spring into action and say, oh, I know the password, 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:36.200 and it will fill it in for you. 0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:37.880 So that's the main thing. 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.200 If you're going to embark on this journey to change 0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.960 one hundred and fifty five passwords. That's what I would do, 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:44.680 so that you get them all in a safe place 0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:49.960 and they are generated, unique and strong and one time only. 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:51.319 Now, the way I. 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.040 Would tackle the one hundred and fifty five passwords change 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:57.480 is I would start with your main apps, So the 0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:01.040 main most secure app, so that's your banking, that is 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:04.920 your email, and I think those are pretty much your 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.680 financial and your email is kind of in your social 0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:08.879 media if you have them. 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:10.320 Those are the main ones. 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.239 You want to change first, and then of course you 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.400 can change the lesser ones a little bit later as 0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:15.560 you get down this path. 0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:20.560 But that's what I would do. Okay, does that sound good? 0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:21.320 Sound doable? 0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:23.480 I will try it? 0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:25.120 Thanks for yeah. 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:27.239 And the website I would go to first is just 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.960 go to passwords dot Google dot com to see if 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:34.400 you're already using that password manager, and if you aren't, 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:36.520 there's a little that's an easy way to turn it on. 0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:38.640 You can just hit the gear icon on that page 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:42.000 and it says offer to save passwords, and there's also 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:46.279 auto sign in, So that's probably the easiest way to 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:50.160 do it. And you know that'll work across your iPhone 0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:53.000 and your Chrome web browser, and it's a it's a nice, free, 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.120 easy way to start with a password manager. 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:57.759 Got it, Thanks so much. 0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:59.879 All right, Dan, looks like you've got some homework there. 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.600 I will be I will be checking it and grading 0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:05.960 it when you come into class on Monday morning. 0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.560 So please complete it in Uh. 0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.759 You don't have to complete all one hundred and fifty five, 0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:14.040 but do as much as you can, all right. Eighty 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.120 eight rich one one eight eight eight seven four to 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:20.120 two four one zero one. So Google is going to 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:24.400 start in auto enrolling Android devices in their find my network. 0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:29.400 So this is their equivalent of Google of Apple's AirTag 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:30.360 find my Network. 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:31.680 I'm gonna tell you all about that. 0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:36.080 But coming up, we're gonna talk privacy. We're gonna talk 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:40.000 with the CEO of Ghostry, and he's gonna tell us 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:44.719 about tools, browsers and how to protect ourselves online. That's 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:49.879 coming up right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.640 to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, 0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:56.399 talking technology. We'll get back to the phone lines in 0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.680 just a moment. That's eighty eight rich one on one 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:03.200 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:07.600 But first let's talk to JP Schmatt's CEO, of Ghosty. 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.960 This is an ad blocker and a privacy browser and 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:16.560 JP is a digital privacy expert and advocate. 0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:17.880 JP. Welcome to the show. 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:20.279 Thanks thanks for having me. 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.000 So explain what ghosty is all about. 0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:27.480 First off, well, ghostri is an extension to your existing browsers. 0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:30.960 So you're surfing with Chromo, Safario Edge or whatever you use, 0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:33.960 and you put us on, and what we do is 0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.719 we basically make sure that all of the stuff you 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:40.200 don't see. So all of the trackers that are behind 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:44.319 the pages that you visit are basically not showing up 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:48.120 in your browser and therefore not able to know where 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:48.480 you were. 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.000 So yeah, keep going. 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:54.120 Yeah, every time you load the page, there's a you know, 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:58.520 fifty to sixty seventy trackers behind it from Google, Facebook, 0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:00.560 tech Talk, et cetera. Basically look looking at what you 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:04.160 are doing. And that's why you have sometimes the impressions 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.400 that ads are following you around or your phone is 0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.719 listening to you. In fact, it's very often just these 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.719 trackers looking at what you're doing online. 0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:15.160 Oh that's like a number one question I get is 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.240 people think that their phone is listening to their conversations. 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.839 But you're saying that these trackers are so ubiquitous that 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:25.000 that's actually what's making those things show up on our 0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:25.840 Instagram feeds. 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:30.160 Yes, that's much more likely. So you're doing a searching Google, 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.480 you're visiting pages, you're surfing along the web, and all 0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:36.440 of these tracks are being recorded, and then somehow you 0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:38.400 have the feeling that people have been listening to you, 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.320 but in fact they've just been watching you. And ghost 0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.040 three is removing this even before it happens. 0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:47.880 So what's the benefit of removing this information? 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:54.960 Well, first and foremost, your pages will load faster because 0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:59.719 you can't believe how many megabytes are being you know, 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:03.200 at than going over your bandwidth, so you'll the net 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:05.800 will go faster, you will use less over your bandwidth 0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:10.160 if you're limited in that way, and the big tech 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.719 and the trackers will not have the information about what 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.200 you did and therefore will not bid on the ads 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.840 that you know that would be retargeting you. 0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.080 And so do you recommend that people install these sorts 0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:25.120 of things? I wonder you know, as we Yeah. 0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:29.640 Go ahead, absolutely absolutely. We just did a survey that 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.319 shows that people who work in advertising or people who 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:36.200 work in tech are you know, infinitely more likely to 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:38.480 have an ad blocker and anti tracker install on their 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.560 brother so people will know what's going on. Basically install that. 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:45.680 And so my question is if everyone installs these ad blockers, 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.799 what about all these companies that you know, depend on 0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.880 that advertising revenue. Is there another way for them to 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:52.440 make money. 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.440 Well, it doesn't block all ads. It tends to block 0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.319 ads that are coming through so called programmatic networks, so 0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:04.520 basically as that are coming from other places than the 0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:07.480 site that you are visiting. So it's true that some 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:12.080 websites tend to rely on these network you know, exclusively, 0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:16.000 and they will obviously make less money from a ghost 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:17.840 rey user than a normal user, but a lot of 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:20.160 website i have moved to a different type of advertising 0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:23.480 that doesn't rely on having private information about you. 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:27.560 Why do you think we're seeing such an interest in 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.400 kind of this privacy conversation. 0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:33.239 These days? 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:37.440 Well because it keeps getting worse. Right, ghost Rey was 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.319 founded in two thousand and eight and we thought, oh 0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:41.800 that was pretty bad at that time, but it's nothing 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.799 compared to what it is today. It's just there are 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:48.000 more and more of these trackers, and the attic industry 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:53.280 is getting bigger and bigger. Yeah, and people get educated 0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.520 or they hear it from someone they know and trust 0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.160 that they should use something like this. They do, and 0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:01.440 then obviously the work becomes faster and a lot cleaner. 0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:05.440 So it's hard to go back when you try. 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:09.000 It now because a lot of the web is supported 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.920 by advertising. I mean, where do we move forward? Like, 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:15.200 you know, how do we move past this? Kind of 0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:17.800 like if you're not paying for a product, you are 0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:19.840 the product, right, isn't that with the ideas? 0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.200 Well, that's what the idea is when you're not using 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.280 an ad blocker. I think when you're using an ad blocker, 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.840 what tends to happen? I think that a good example 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.760 is maybe YouTube. So we do block the ads on YouTube, 0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.360 but most of the creators on YouTube have ads that 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.080 are embedded in their podcast right, because they've learned as 0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:40.600 well that Google is not necessarily their friends when it 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:43.479 comes to monetization. So you go back to a more 0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:47.800 traditional form of advertising, which doesn't rely on on what 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:49.880 you were doing two days ago, but rely on the 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.960 context in which you are at the moment. 0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:56.760 That's interesting too, because I know YouTube it's been kind 0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:59.600 of a cat and mouse game between the ad blockers 0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:03.040 and youtub too, because they've been pushing back and that 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:05.760 is that something you guys have to like figure out 0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:08.480 every other day, like, oh they've switched something again. 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:11.960 It's not every other day. But they did a major 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:15.440 pustion in a fourth quarter of last year and what 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:19.160 happened was really interesting. We saw a massive increase in users. 0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:22.480 So even though it was kind of not working most days, 0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:25.520 but people wanted it to work, so they kept trying 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:28.760 to switch browser install us on a different broider. We 0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:33.560 saw massive movements of people between Chrome and Edge and 0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:35.800 they would take us with them, right because we can 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:40.840 install install grocery on every browser from Safari on iOS 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:45.160 to Edge on Windows and whatever you have. And we 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.960 saw a massive increase in users during that time. 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:51.040 What about AI, because now a lot of people have 0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:53.800 switched to these AI tools and they're feeding a lot 0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:58.600 of personal information into them. Is there any privacy implications there? 0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:02.720 They could be, but at the moment it's still what 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:06.360 we call first party, which means that you know, when 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.040 you're talking to open AI or charg GPT, you know 0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:11.520 that you're talking to chuldg GBT, you are willing fully 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:14.600 putting your information there, and you know maybe they will 0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:16.440 use it, maybe not one day, but you are fully 0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:20.200 conscious of that. What we do is more the stuff 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:23.280 you don't see. Right, So if you go to my 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.680 favorite example, you know you have maybe your mother or 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:30.160 father goes to arp website, why are there sixty companies 0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:33.160 lurking in the background that they don't see on the website? Right? 0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:36.800 Why why are all these trackers in the back? That's 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:41.240 what we take care to remove. So I think when 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:43.600 people are in a one to one relationship with the 0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.560 website that they want to visit, they are perfectly conscious 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:48.880 of what's going on. There is no big risk there. 0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:51.880 The problem is is you go to a website and 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.880 you just don't see what people collect and then what 0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:55.800 they do with it later. 0:59:56.880 --> 1:00:00.200 What's this American Privacy Rights Act And how's that going 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.640 to impact the average consumers online privacy? 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:05.760 I mean, I'm not a lawyer nor an American by 1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:08.360 the way, but I know what regulation tends to do. 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:11.320 They tend to say, well, before you do this, you 1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:13.800 have to ask for consents. And the problem with that 1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:17.640 is that the big companies are always getting the consent. 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:20.120 So you've clicked at one point to a Google button 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:23.080 in Google that says Google can collect whatever they want 1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:25.520 from me, or you go to a website as a 1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:28.880 pop up and you click on it really rapidly because 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:30.600 you want to do what you want to do on 1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:33.120 it that side, and then they get the right to 1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:36.880 collect the data forever and ever and ever. So I 1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:39.840 think it's very important that you protect yourself with one 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:42.760 of these tools. On top in Ghost three, we have 1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:45.960 something called never consent, which means that automatically we answer 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:48.400 no to the question of whether they can collect your data. 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:51.440 Oh, you're going to ask about that, so you mean 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:53.920 for all those like because I mean you said you're 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:56.160 not an American, so that I think Europe is where 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:59.280 we have to thank for the all those pop ups, 1:00:59.280 --> 1:01:03.560 for the cookies exactly, so you know, so everyone always 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:05.200 has to struggle with those things on the website. Do 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:08.360 you guys automatically kind of say no to those yes. 1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:11.760 So we have a system that not only blocks the 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:15.360 pop up so you don't see it, but also remove 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:19.120 consents because the problem in many legislation, I think, including 1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:21.600 most of the states in America, is that if you 1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:25.400 don't answer, it means you can, right, and so it's 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:27.960 quite important to say no, and we do this on 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.440 your behalf without having you to go through seven layers 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:34.320 of multiple choice questions before you can say no. 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:38.080 All right, well that's worth it right there. And so 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.000 how do you guys, how do you guys make money? 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:41.840 How does ghost three? Is there a paid or is 1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:42.720 it all free or what? 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:45.880 We are very very small teams, so first of all, 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:48.400 we don't lose too much money by not having too 1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:52.560 many people and being a small, dedicated team. And we 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:56.680 live on quite substantial donations in the meantime, So people 1:01:56.800 --> 1:02:02.520 can subscribe to because contributors, and they help us discover 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.560 new trackers, and they help us by giving us a 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:09.680 few dollars per month if they want to. But you 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:12.280 don't get more protection by being a contributor. 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:17.440 And do you feel like these privacy conversations are overblown 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:20.560 or do you feel like people should actually think about 1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:22.280 this stuff and take some action. 1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:26.360 I think it's not overblown at all, because when you 1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:30.360 look at what's going on, it is quite enormous. And 1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:34.840 I think that the old contract that somehow implicitly was 1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:40.160 between advertiser, publisher and reader of viewer has been broken 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:44.720 by this invisible thing, right because before it was quite clear, 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:46.880 like you had a radio show and you had a 1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:49.280 lot of attention, and then an advertiser would want to 1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:54.480 sort of piggyback on that attention and would give you, you know, money, 1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:59.120 and the middleman between you and the advertiser would maybe 1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:02.520 collect fifteen percent. This is not true today. The middleman 1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:06.240 tends to collect up to eighty five percent. Oh wow. 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:09.040 And spy and spies on you. You know, you never 1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:13.160 spied on your on your listeners before. Right, You just 1:03:13.200 --> 1:03:16.880 had a that that you think they would like and 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:17.960 then you got paid for it. 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:18.280 Right. 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:20.320 You didn't know need to know what I was doing 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:24.120 five minutes before in the supermarket. Uh. And I think 1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:27.080 that this we need to go back to that more 1:03:27.120 --> 1:03:29.000 than this ultra targeted advertising. 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:32.440 All right, We're gonna leave it there. Very interesting. 1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:36.760 I'm always interested in the privacy aspect of everything, and 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:40.560 it's just continuing to be such a huge aspect of 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:46.200 our online lives. JP Schmittz of CEO of Ghostory. You 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:50.920 can check out the website. It is ghostory dot com. 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:52.840 If you want to check out their tool, I'll link 1:03:52.880 --> 1:03:55.680 it up on my website. Rich on tech dot TV, 1:03:55.840 --> 1:03:56.880 thanks for joining me today. 1:03:57.720 --> 1:03:58.320 Thanks you Rich? 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:00.840 All right eight Rich one on. 1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:04.600 One eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one. 1:04:05.000 --> 1:04:08.720 Speaking of privacy, Google Auto and rolling your Android devices 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:09.920 in their new find My network. 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:11.520 I'll tell you what you need to know about that 1:04:11.720 --> 1:04:16.800 coming up next. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:19.960 Right, let's go to. 1:04:20.200 --> 1:04:22.880 Martin in Palm. 1:04:22.640 --> 1:04:25.040 D California and the Golden Belly. 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:27.520 Martin, you're on, You're on live. 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:31.480 I'm just going to get your supercharged for a few minutes. 1:04:31.520 --> 1:04:35.600 And okay, well get that thing supercharge. You're on with 1:04:35.720 --> 1:04:36.439 rich On Tech. 1:04:36.920 --> 1:04:41.160 Are you there? Okay? I think we're gonna go. We're 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:41.800 gonna Martin. 1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:49.720 Okay, we're gonna give Let's go to uh. 1:04:48.000 --> 1:04:49.720 Pick, Let's go TV. 1:04:50.160 --> 1:04:53.080 Let's and I can and I can just emailing. 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:57.360 Let's go to is this Granny Rich? What is happening here? 1:04:57.440 --> 1:04:58.600 I don't know what's happening here. 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:00.960 I'm going to. 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:04.840 Okay, I don't know what is going on their phone lines. 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:08.080 Granny Rich, you're on with rich Are you there? 1:05:09.240 --> 1:05:09.520 Yeah? 1:05:09.600 --> 1:05:14.280 I was just wanting to know what your number one 1:05:14.600 --> 1:05:20.040 anti virus disc for a desktop computer. It's Windows ten. 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:23.000 Are okay? Good question. 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:27.760 So in Windows ten, they actually have anti virus built 1:05:27.800 --> 1:05:32.760 in so you can do that, which is fine, but 1:05:33.160 --> 1:05:34.760 if you want to step it up a notch, I 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:38.520 would recommend checking out a website called a vtest dot org, 1:05:39.200 --> 1:05:42.040 and that is the website that will tell you they 1:05:42.080 --> 1:05:46.320 do tests on a monthly basis. And right now their 1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:48.160 number one is A vast a. 1:05:48.200 --> 1:05:51.440 V A S A B is in Banana. 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:52.080 A v. 1:05:53.920 --> 1:05:57.520 Oh my gosh, I'm forgetting my my own av Victor. Yeah, 1:05:57.600 --> 1:05:59.600 A Victor. That's it, yeah, Apple Victor. 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:01.240 And what's the rest of it? 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:06.200 A vast av A S T and that is a 1:06:06.240 --> 1:06:09.200 free anti virus. Obviously it's a freemium, so they're going 1:06:09.240 --> 1:06:11.360 to try to sell you on the you know, the 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:14.960 more premium version. But this gets great ratings. It's a 1:06:15.000 --> 1:06:19.280 top product. It generally is highly rated among a lot 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:21.840 of the tech folks out there. So you can take 1:06:21.880 --> 1:06:23.680 a look at that website, though, you know. 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:27.200 Can I can I repeat this again? A vs in Victor, 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:31.640 A S is and sam tasn't tom correct A vast Okay, yeah, 1:06:31.760 --> 1:06:35.360 because my computer came with a microsf what is it 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:39.200 McAfee and my computer guy came in yesterday and told me, 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:41.160 he said, well, you need you need to get a 1:06:41.200 --> 1:06:45.800 disc granny. He said, because this your speed. He said, 1:06:45.880 --> 1:06:49.360 your speeds aren't what did he say, kicking in and 1:06:49.400 --> 1:06:51.400 he said one is like one O two and one 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:54.120 is seventy nine. And I said, well, I have McAfee 1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:57.160 and I pay it once a year. And he said, well, 1:06:57.440 --> 1:06:59.840 you need to get another one. So thanks for telling 1:06:59.880 --> 1:07:02.200 me about this one. I'm going to try it because 1:07:03.240 --> 1:07:06.680 my computer is HP, like I said, and it's about 1:07:06.720 --> 1:07:09.720 five years old, and this is about my fifth one. 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:13.880 I went to HEWITTT Packers because I liked Compact. But 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:14.400 that's it. 1:07:14.840 --> 1:07:18.200 Okay, Well check out that website. Yeah you're welcome. Good 1:07:18.280 --> 1:07:18.680 luck with that. 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:22.400 But check out the website av dash test dot org 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:25.960 if you're looking for anti virus for any of your devices. 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:30.960 This is an independent institute that does a lot of 1:07:31.000 --> 1:07:34.160 tests on so here it is. It says during March 1:07:34.200 --> 1:07:37.640 in April twenty twenty four, we continuously evaluated seventeen home 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:40.520 user security products using their default settings. 1:07:41.080 --> 1:07:42.760 And this is what they came up with. 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:46.160 So a vast number one AVEG, which I believe is 1:07:46.200 --> 1:07:50.000 the same company, number two of YOURA number three bitdefender 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:55.040 for Enigma Soft five E set number six f secure 1:07:55.720 --> 1:07:58.640 And then it's interesting the big brand names that you 1:07:58.680 --> 1:08:02.680 see advertised the most are actually the lowest on the list, 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:07.400 which I find very very interesting. All right, let's see 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:10.600 if let's see if Martin. Let's let's peak in on 1:08:10.640 --> 1:08:11.160 Martin again. 1:08:11.200 --> 1:08:11.480 Martin? 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:11.959 Are you there? 1:08:12.840 --> 1:08:13.560 Yes? I am here. 1:08:13.640 --> 1:08:16.080 Oh hey, what's up Martin? Welcome to rich On Tech. 1:08:16.120 --> 1:08:16.840 What can I help you with? 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:18.840 Thank you for taking my call? 1:08:19.800 --> 1:08:23.960 Let me a little background. We developed a self You've. 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:26.080 Got to be very quick because we only have a 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:26.760 couple of minutes here. 1:08:27.479 --> 1:08:31.519 Oh okay, I know. There's a way you can run 1:08:33.160 --> 1:08:38.719 a browser application and compallably MOLDE for Internet Explorer, Microsoft Age. However, 1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:41.679 after a month expires all the time, so always get 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:44.519 calls from my users, try to walk them through and 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:47.040 set up the compellable mode. Again, is there any way 1:08:47.080 --> 1:08:50.080 we can sit down I stay longer than one month? 1:08:50.680 --> 1:08:53.719 Well, I wouldn't recommend that support for Internet Explorer ended 1:08:53.800 --> 1:08:57.840 in twenty twenty two, so anyone that's using something that 1:08:58.120 --> 1:09:00.519 works through that compatibility mode is at risk. 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:03.320 I know, I know. 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:06.280 So why are you not updating the program? 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:09.200 Well, we have a new version of the program, by 1:09:09.240 --> 1:09:11.719 some old timers still try to use it. The old 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:14.800 version of the software because it still has some old 1:09:14.880 --> 1:09:18.439 data and they didn't need to retrieve. So that's why 1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:21.000 we haven't transferred any data from the old system to 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:23.080 the new one. Some of the data still in the 1:09:23.120 --> 1:09:23.719 old system. 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:25.880 Well, the only thing I can think of, I mean, 1:09:25.920 --> 1:09:29.400 I'm guessing they're doing like the flags inside Edge to 1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:31.599 turn on the compatibility mode. 1:09:31.640 --> 1:09:32.400 Is that how you're doing it? 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:35.639 Yeah, you come to the setting and default. 1:09:36.800 --> 1:09:39.680 Yeah, So I mean, if that's resetting, obviously that's a 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:43.760 Microsoft security concern. They're toggling that off by default every 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:46.040 thirty days. The only thing I can think of, and 1:09:46.080 --> 1:09:50.240 I can't recommend this widely because obviously you know there 1:09:50.240 --> 1:09:52.800 are inherent risks with you with using this in a 1:09:52.840 --> 1:09:56.000 mode that is not supported anymore. But I would say 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:58.000 the only thing you might be able to do is 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:03.439 find an extension that might continue to keep that enabled, 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:06.160 or an extension that runs that mode permanently. 1:10:07.240 --> 1:10:08.160 That's my thought. 1:10:08.240 --> 1:10:11.920 But again, I think it's best to try to urge 1:10:11.920 --> 1:10:15.680 these people to update, because you just don't want to 1:10:15.720 --> 1:10:18.439 be running something that has not been supported in two years, 1:10:18.479 --> 1:10:21.479 because there are a lot of security implications of that. 1:10:21.600 --> 1:10:22.920 So I understand the reasoning. 1:10:23.680 --> 1:10:27.479 But I also see why Microsoft is forcing those changes. 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:30.720 But again, there might be some extension that would would 1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:32.320 do that. I don't know of one off the top 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:34.080 of my head, but that might be a good way 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:38.040 to kind of search for something that keeps that that 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:42.479 flag in place even after those thirty days. All right, 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:45.720 the website rich on Tech dot TV eight eight eight 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:49.360 seven four to two four one zero one eight eight 1:10:49.360 --> 1:10:50.720 eight rich one oh one. 1:10:52.360 --> 1:10:54.000 Man, do we just go through a whole another hour 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:56.280 of this show? Well, we got another hour coming up. 1:10:56.320 --> 1:10:59.080 That's the good news. And coming up we'll take more 1:10:59.080 --> 1:11:01.880 of your questions. I'll tell you about this whole uh 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:05.960 Android find my network, and I'll tell you how to 1:11:06.040 --> 1:11:07.959 find some hidden games on YouTube. 1:11:07.960 --> 1:11:10.120 That's kind of fun. It's all coming up right here 1:11:10.160 --> 1:11:14.559 on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:18.080 This is how we do it for tech news. Eight 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:21.120 eight eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven 1:11:21.280 --> 1:11:26.160 four two four one zero one. Welcome to another hour 1:11:26.320 --> 1:11:27.080 of the show. 1:11:27.120 --> 1:11:27.760 Coming up. 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:31.000 This hour, we're gonna talk to a Neil Subberwall of 1:11:31.200 --> 1:11:36.040 Google Fitbit. He's gonna discuss details on that new Fitbit 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:40.120 ace LTE. This is the connected smart watch for kids. 1:11:40.720 --> 1:11:44.360 He's gonna explain what it does, what it's useful for, 1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:49.400 and they're thinking behind creating it. Speaking of Android, you 1:11:49.520 --> 1:11:53.280 might get a notification on your Android device that says 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:57.440 do you want to join the Find my Device network? 1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:00.839 So you're gonna get a notification because Google is turning 1:12:00.880 --> 1:12:05.479 this on for over a billion devices. This is the 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:09.400 equivalent of Apple's Find My network that launched with the 1:12:09.520 --> 1:12:13.320 air tag. Apple has had their network up and running 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:16.759 for a couple of years now. Google is just getting 1:12:16.840 --> 1:12:19.120 theirs up and running. So you're gonna see a whole 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:24.000 push for gadgets that tap into this find my Device network, 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:27.320 So things like air tags, except on the Google side, 1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:32.320 So a bunch of different products, Chappolo, Tile, They're all 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:35.160 going to have these devices that tap into this network. 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:38.879 And these are for Android phones along with your Android devices. 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:42.760 So you're gonna see earbuds, you're gonna see headphones, You're 1:12:42.760 --> 1:12:45.920 gonna see a lot of different things be able to 1:12:45.960 --> 1:12:49.599 be found with this new network. But how this network 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:54.000 works is through all of your devices. So let me 1:12:54.040 --> 1:12:57.000 give you an example. Your phone. You have an Android phone, 1:12:57.040 --> 1:13:00.200 it's sitting on your desk at work. Someone loses their 1:13:00.320 --> 1:13:03.559 keys with one of these little find my trackers attached 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:06.800 to their key. Well, that little tracker has Bluetooth in it. 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:11.200 Your phone is scanning around your workplace looking for all 1:13:11.200 --> 1:13:13.439 these different devices all the time, and it finds that 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:17.240 little tracker. It reports that location back to Google, and 1:13:17.280 --> 1:13:19.840 that person that lost their keys goes onto their phone 1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:22.000 and says, now, where did I drop my keys? And 1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:25.120 the phone says, oh, we saw it in at your 1:13:25.120 --> 1:13:28.519 work underneath this desk or whatever. So that's how it works. 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:35.479 And so this relies on millions upon millions of devices 1:13:35.600 --> 1:13:39.639 scanning using Bluetooth and helping locate these other devices. Now, 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:44.439 this is all done privately. It's all done encrypted. Nobody's 1:13:44.479 --> 1:13:47.479 seeing where your phone is. Your phone is not seeing 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:51.800 where these other devices are. It's all done encrypted and privately, 1:13:52.280 --> 1:13:55.280 so only the person that owns that device can actually 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:59.120 see where that lost item is. This find my Device 1:13:59.200 --> 1:14:02.680 network collects current location, battery level, Wi Fi network, and 1:14:02.720 --> 1:14:07.439 signal strength to help locate these online devices. For offline devices, yes, 1:14:07.560 --> 1:14:11.600 your phone could be offline and it still might be 1:14:11.640 --> 1:14:14.040 able to be found with this new network. Now some 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:16.120 of the newer devices have that functionality. I know the 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:19.280 pixels do, but not every device is going to have 1:14:19.360 --> 1:14:24.120 that offline identifying information. So why I'm telling you this 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:26.080 is because you might get an email that says, hey, 1:14:26.120 --> 1:14:28.000 we're going to opt you into this network if you 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:30.760 don't say anything within the next three days. So if 1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:33.240 you don't mind helping out and being a part of 1:14:33.240 --> 1:14:36.200 this network, just let it go. It will opt you 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:38.400 in automatically. If you don't want to be a part 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:40.559 of this network, if you don't want to help find 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:44.360 devices using your devices, you can opt out. And the 1:14:44.360 --> 1:14:46.720 way you opt out is following that link in the 1:14:47.680 --> 1:14:50.760 notification you get or the email you get, or you 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:54.760 can go to this website Google dot com, slash Android, 1:14:55.120 --> 1:15:02.080 slash find, slash settings, slash FM d end find my 1:15:02.400 --> 1:15:06.719 Device Network. I know that's a long website. Google dot com, 1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:13.439 slash Android, slash find, slash settings, slash fmd N. I 1:15:13.520 --> 1:15:15.719 will put that link on my website. Rich on tech 1:15:15.760 --> 1:15:18.160 dot tv in the show notes, this is show number 1:15:18.200 --> 1:15:22.000 sixty seventy four. Tap the light bulb at the top 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:25.360 of the screen to get into those show note links. 1:15:27.120 --> 1:15:27.840 That is the deal. 1:15:27.920 --> 1:15:30.439 You can also opt out at any time, So even 1:15:30.439 --> 1:15:33.320 if you let this auto opt in, and you decide 1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:34.920 later on, you know what, I don't want to be 1:15:34.920 --> 1:15:37.559 a part of this network. You can still opt out now. 1:15:38.200 --> 1:15:41.480 Even if you don't opt into helping find other devices, 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:45.360 you can still use find my Device to locate your 1:15:45.400 --> 1:15:49.000 devices when they're online. So it's not necessarily a two 1:15:49.040 --> 1:15:51.280 way street, like you don't have to participate to actually 1:15:51.280 --> 1:15:54.280 help find your devices, but it would be nice if 1:15:54.320 --> 1:15:55.160 you help participate. 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:55.280 Now. 1:15:55.320 --> 1:15:58.120 I think there's enough Android devices in the world where 1:15:58.560 --> 1:16:00.519 even if you say no, there's still going to be 1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:03.679 enough people that make this pretty accurate and pretty good. 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:07.880 But this is a huge, huge new undertaking by Android 1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:11.320 to help you find your device anywhere it is in 1:16:11.360 --> 1:16:14.240 the world when it is lost. And it's going to 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:17.400 implement this functionality for so many devices. You're going to 1:16:17.439 --> 1:16:20.280 see wallets with this find my network, You're going to 1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:24.120 see tracker tags, you're going to see headphones, all kinds 1:16:24.160 --> 1:16:27.880 of Android devices moving forward are probably going to have 1:16:27.960 --> 1:16:30.960 this built in as an appealing feature to help you 1:16:31.040 --> 1:16:35.240 find these devices if they are ever lost. Let's go 1:16:35.280 --> 1:16:38.200 to ed in Los Angeles or ed in Las Vegas. 1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:40.639 ED you're on with rich Las Vegas. 1:16:40.720 --> 1:16:43.840 That's right, Thank you, Rich. I appreciate you taking my call. 1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:44.559 Yeah. 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:49.400 So my situation is that I have had for years 1:16:49.520 --> 1:16:53.400 Amazon Music that is now being charged I believe nine 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:58.880 ninety ten dollars a month, and I was told that 1:16:59.560 --> 1:17:04.360 Prime Music comes free with your Prime membership, which we 1:17:04.800 --> 1:17:08.960 are also paying for. Are they the same thing? I 1:17:09.000 --> 1:17:12.519 know that on the Amazon Music I can play any artist, 1:17:12.640 --> 1:17:17.000 any soundtrack from any movie, any Broadway, play any artist 1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:20.759 with any song they ever recorded. Is it the same 1:17:21.560 --> 1:17:26.000 music provided by Prime Music that I could stop paying, 1:17:27.360 --> 1:17:29.040 you know, the one hundred and twenty dollars a year 1:17:29.080 --> 1:17:31.440 and get it for free and along with my Prime. 1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:33.519 Members It is not the same. 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:37.160 So it is there is a little bit extra that 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:41.560 you get with the paid Prime, you know, the unlimited. 1:17:42.040 --> 1:17:45.120 And this is where it gets very confusing for Amazon 1:17:45.200 --> 1:17:48.840 to do this because they've given a lot of stuff 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:51.000 for free. I mean, they really are giving you a 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.599 lot for free. If you have a Prime membership, you 1:17:53.640 --> 1:17:57.599 can get what's called all Access playlists. So these are 1:17:57.640 --> 1:18:00.800 playlists that let you pick any song and played on 1:18:00.880 --> 1:18:04.200 demand and no skip limits, no you know, or you 1:18:04.200 --> 1:18:07.479 can even listen to them offline by downloading them. So, 1:18:07.800 --> 1:18:10.880 but that is a select group of songs. So I 1:18:10.920 --> 1:18:14.960 would say my main difference between what you're paying for 1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:18.519 and what you get for free is the choice of 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:20.160 what you get to listen to. 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:22.160 On demand. 1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:26.400 That is the more do playlist or downloads because I'm blind. 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:29.840 So okay, but you know I can just saysk. 1:18:29.600 --> 1:18:33.920 Thee abot to play anything from Rihanna to Elvis. I 1:18:33.920 --> 1:18:36.920 can play Duing Eddies nineteen fifty nine, forty Miles the 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:40.719 Bad Road, and it'll play it. Yeah, any song anything 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:45.360 I want. But you're saying the Prime Music doesn't give me. 1:18:45.280 --> 1:18:48.439 That, well, so what's going to happen on the Prime Music? 1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:53.240 There is a selection of songs, so I believe they've 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:55.960 thrown out like a number, right, so there is like 1:18:56.000 --> 1:19:01.120 a certain amount. So with Amazon Music Prime members get 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:05.240 access to one hundred million songs AD free. Right with 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:08.720 Amazon Music Unlimited you get a hundred million songs in 1:19:08.960 --> 1:19:13.200 HD and million millions of songs in ultra HD. So 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:15.360 if you have like a super high quality setup, you 1:19:15.360 --> 1:19:19.000 would get a better audio quality. But the main difference is, 1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:22.320 let's say if you stop paying for this, right ed, 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:24.800 if you stop if you stop paying for your unlimited 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:28.760 and you say I want to play Rihanna and I 1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:32.920 want to play a certain song by Rihanna, right, and 1:19:33.000 --> 1:19:36.880 it doesn't have that song the Free membership. The Prime 1:19:36.880 --> 1:19:40.200 membership will just play a song similar to that song, 1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:43.920 and you may be none the wiser. You may say, oh, 1:19:43.960 --> 1:19:46.120 I asked it to play Rihanna's Shut Up and Drive 1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:49.559 or whatever, and it plays something related to that. And 1:19:49.640 --> 1:19:54.320 so not everything is going to be you know, it's 1:19:54.320 --> 1:19:57.719 not going to have the entire catalog like Amazon Music 1:19:57.800 --> 1:20:01.280 Unlimited does because you are paying, and also you get 1:20:01.280 --> 1:20:03.800 to listen offline. You get Unlimited skips. So if you 1:20:03.800 --> 1:20:06.320 don't like a song that it plays on the Amazon 1:20:06.439 --> 1:20:09.400 Prime and use press skip, yes, it'll skip to the 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:11.439 next song, but you're only gonna have a certain amount 1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:14.360 of skips per hour before it says nope, you've got 1:20:14.360 --> 1:20:15.280 to listen to this song. 1:20:15.640 --> 1:20:17.840 And the reason they're doing that, whereas. 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:20.160 On the Unlimited, I can you say next and it'll 1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:23.280 go the next song on the artist I'm listening. 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:27.080 To exactly, So there is a difference between the two. 1:20:27.920 --> 1:20:30.600 What I'd say, ed is try it. I mean, you 1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:33.679 could always cancel the Unlimited and I know you said 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:36.120 you paid for a year in advance, so you can 1:20:36.200 --> 1:20:39.280 cancel that now, continue to use it for the year, 1:20:39.680 --> 1:20:42.400 and then when it when it lapses, you can just 1:20:42.640 --> 1:20:44.799 default to the Prime Music. If you have an Amazon 1:20:44.840 --> 1:20:47.840 you have an Amazon Prime membership, Yes we do, so 1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:49.960 if you have Amazon Prime, you can let it default 1:20:49.960 --> 1:20:52.439 to that and you can try it out. I mean, 1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:54.200 I think there are a lot of people out there 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:57.080 that are just using Amazon Music Prime for free that 1:20:57.840 --> 1:21:00.439 it just works. And you know how many times are 1:21:00.439 --> 1:21:02.720 you skipping a song in an hour? You don't notice? 1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:04.920 So if it saves you one hundred and twenty bucks 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:06.599 a year and everything's fine, that's great. 1:21:07.000 --> 1:21:08.919 But you did you did quite. 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:10.000 Say we pay by the year. 1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:11.160 I'm sure you got that. 1:21:11.360 --> 1:21:13.600 Poh, well, then I mean, maybe just cancel it. 1:21:13.840 --> 1:21:16.560 And I think I said we pay one hundred and 1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:18.840 twenty bucks a year, but I was just giving a 1:21:18.880 --> 1:21:21.639 figure and I got it. We don't pay by the year. 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:24.800 I'm builled once a month, nine ninety nine. 1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:25.320 Okay. 1:21:25.400 --> 1:21:27.599 Well, I mean, now here's the other thing. I don't 1:21:27.640 --> 1:21:29.760 know if that's grandfathered in, because I do know that 1:21:29.800 --> 1:21:33.880 they have raised prices on the Amazon Music Unlimited, so 1:21:34.040 --> 1:21:37.679 I would check to see, let me see exactly what 1:21:37.800 --> 1:21:39.360 that price is now because I. 1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:41.599 Really appreciate your time. You're doing a great job than 1:21:41.800 --> 1:21:42.160 could you. 1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:44.720 Okay, so it says starts at nine ninety nine, a 1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:48.080 month after the thirty day trial, so it sounds like 1:21:48.560 --> 1:21:50.640 it's still the same price. But here's the thing, Ed, 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:54.040 when you called out those songs, you sound like you're 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:58.320 kind of a music guy, and so yes, I feel 1:21:58.360 --> 1:22:00.800 like you like your music and you like to be 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:02.639 able to say the song that you want to hear, 1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:04.719 and you kind of know a lot of this stuff. 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:06.200 So I don't know. 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:08.360 You may not be happy with the you know, the 1:22:08.600 --> 1:22:12.080 the kind of randomness of the free version. 1:22:12.120 --> 1:22:14.200 But right, I get what I want. 1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:15.840 Yeah, I think it's worth try. 1:22:15.880 --> 1:22:17.519 In other words, right, you're. 1:22:17.360 --> 1:22:19.679 Not really losing anything by trying it out for a month, 1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:21.240 so I might try. 1:22:21.280 --> 1:22:22.120 That's what happens. 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:24.360 How can I try it out at the same time 1:22:24.400 --> 1:22:26.680 I'm paying for the unlimited and now am I going 1:22:26.760 --> 1:22:29.080 to know which one I'm pulling from? 1:22:29.360 --> 1:22:31.200 No, I don't think you can do that because it's 1:22:31.200 --> 1:22:33.639 the same thing unless you set up a different Amazon account. 1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:35.680 But that's you know, you're under your prime account. That's 1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:38.760 going to be kind of tricky to do. So all right, 1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:39.559 I say. 1:22:39.479 --> 1:22:40.240 Thank you very much. 1:22:40.320 --> 1:22:40.479 Rich. 1:22:40.560 --> 1:22:41.880 Yeah, I appreciate the show very. 1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:44.920 Much, appreciate the kind words, ed, thanks for calling today. 1:22:44.960 --> 1:22:47.240 Eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight 1:22:47.360 --> 1:22:49.799 seven four to two four one zero one. 1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:53.320 Coming up, I'll tell you where to find some games 1:22:53.320 --> 1:22:54.840 to play on YouTube. 1:22:55.080 --> 1:22:57.599 What Yeah, they're there, I'll tell you where to find them. 1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:01.040 Coming up right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back 1:23:01.040 --> 1:23:06.760 to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology. The 1:23:06.800 --> 1:23:11.840 website for the show rich on Tech dot tv. You 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:14.280 can find me on social media. I am at rich 1:23:14.360 --> 1:23:17.200 on Tech. If you want links to anything I mentioned 1:23:17.240 --> 1:23:19.000 on the show, you go to the website. There is 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:22.000 a light bulb at the top. You tap that light 1:23:22.040 --> 1:23:24.559 bulb and it will take you to the wiki for 1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:27.559 the show, which has every show we've ever done, plus 1:23:27.640 --> 1:23:30.920 the links to every show, so you can get links 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:33.400 in real time. And if you're listening later, you can 1:23:33.520 --> 1:23:36.840 just look at the podcast section. It will have the 1:23:36.880 --> 1:23:39.559 show and it will have all of the links there 1:23:39.640 --> 1:23:41.599 as well as the audio of the show. You can 1:23:41.600 --> 1:23:44.759 also subscribe by searching rich on Tech and your favorite 1:23:44.800 --> 1:23:50.200 audio player. Let's go to Carol in Los Angeles. Carol, 1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:51.000 you're on with rich. 1:23:53.000 --> 1:23:55.320 Hi, thank you so much for taking your call. I 1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:58.599 love the song you played long times understand it that 1:23:58.680 --> 1:24:04.040 was very appropriate. Thank you. Briefly, I was hacked on 1:24:04.080 --> 1:24:06.400 a crypto exchange of Gemini, which is you know, very 1:24:06.400 --> 1:24:09.360 big like point based crack in US base, and I 1:24:09.400 --> 1:24:11.120 was hacked and had a lot of money stolen in 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:16.759 ten minutes. There were two hundred transactions converted the bitcoint 1:24:16.760 --> 1:24:19.439 and then too something called Orchid, which I understand it 1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:23.080 is a little more secretive and hard to track, so 1:24:23.560 --> 1:24:27.920 trying to figure out what happened. You know, I'm a 1:24:28.000 --> 1:24:30.920 very simple user. I'm not on my computer very much 1:24:31.120 --> 1:24:35.280 and just make my investments. They've identified from three years 1:24:35.320 --> 1:24:38.559 ago that there was an API that was generated and 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:41.720 this was used to bypass two factor authentication which I 1:24:41.760 --> 1:24:45.639 had on the account and somehow get in and hack it. 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:50.800 It wasn't password or email, it was this API. And 1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:53.599 indeed three years ago I was using something called token tax, 1:24:53.680 --> 1:24:56.280 which you're supposed to use to pay your taxes, you know, 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:59.240 with a software interface that helps you do the right 1:24:59.280 --> 1:25:02.280 thing and and sort of pull in from a few 1:25:02.280 --> 1:25:05.400 exchanges you may be on and then calculate your taxes. 1:25:06.560 --> 1:25:09.479 Gem and I would not think though with token tax 1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:12.880 it never sinks, unlike a couple of the other exchanges 1:25:12.960 --> 1:25:16.360 like binance us or crack, and it never thinks. And 1:25:16.560 --> 1:25:19.519 that's it. I mean, I didn't do anything else. And 1:25:19.600 --> 1:25:23.080 now three years later they identified twenty twenty one, maybe 1:25:23.080 --> 1:25:24.360 there was this one API. 1:25:24.880 --> 1:25:29.599 Yeah, so here's what happened. So some so this there. 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:32.840 So what you're talking about is basically a token. And 1:25:32.880 --> 1:25:36.640 so it's an API key that you would generate and 1:25:36.680 --> 1:25:39.400 a lot of different not every not a lot, but 1:25:39.560 --> 1:25:44.479 there are accounts out there that can interface with another 1:25:44.560 --> 1:25:48.880 account by generating one of these. It's basically a trusted token. 1:25:48.960 --> 1:25:52.080 It's kind of like it's saying like, hey, you can 1:25:52.120 --> 1:25:54.840 access this account anytime you want, because I'm giving you 1:25:54.880 --> 1:25:58.000 this token to my account, even if you change the password, 1:25:58.080 --> 1:26:00.439 even if you change your settings, they will have that 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:05.120 token until you revoke that token. So what happened was 1:26:05.560 --> 1:26:08.680 it sounds like you somehow generated a token back in 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:13.000 twenty twenty one. You might have given it to another website. 1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:16.280 That website at the time was fine, but someone might 1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:19.160 have gotten into that website since and they hacked into 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:22.599 that site and they got through to your account based 1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:25.240 on that linkage between those two accounts. 1:26:25.280 --> 1:26:27.360 Does that make sense? Is that how you understand it? 1:26:28.479 --> 1:26:28.839 Yeah? 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:32.799 But on what side? Like so if Gemini, for example, 1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:38.880 doesn't have this interface because they couldn't sync up or 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:43.759 at least this token tax cunt interface with Gemini, did Gemini? 1:26:43.800 --> 1:26:49.320 Why would Gemini make this this API number one? Wouldn't 1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:52.360 it be short lived? They're not supposed to last very long? 1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:55.880 And then similarly, on the other side, token text, if 1:26:55.880 --> 1:26:59.240 they received it and it wasn't sinking on it, then 1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:04.760 not stay there and be live to be hacked like what? 1:27:05.600 --> 1:27:06.760 Well, I don't think. 1:27:06.800 --> 1:27:07.799 Yeah, it is confusing. 1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:10.960 I don't know the details of how this this token 1:27:11.040 --> 1:27:14.480 got out. I mean, once it's generated, it does typically 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:18.200 stay indefinitely as far as I know. And a lot 1:27:18.280 --> 1:27:20.840 of times, you know, developers use these tokens. They use 1:27:20.880 --> 1:27:23.840 these keys to Let's say I'm developing an app for 1:27:24.000 --> 1:27:28.599 open Ai, Right, So what happens is I use the 1:27:28.600 --> 1:27:31.320 the like I pay open ai for a certain amount 1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:33.360 of access, right, and then they give me this token 1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:39.000 that lets me use that inside my programming application. And 1:27:39.040 --> 1:27:41.799 that way, that token says, oh, this is Rich's account, 1:27:41.840 --> 1:27:43.840 we know that he pays us he can access all 1:27:43.960 --> 1:27:46.960 this stuff and so that there's there are valid reasons 1:27:46.960 --> 1:27:50.840 why this exists. I think for you, first off, I 1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:52.960 feel so bad that this happened to you, and it 1:27:52.960 --> 1:27:54.200 sounds like there's no recourse. 1:27:54.280 --> 1:27:59.240 Huh, we don't know. I in my opinion, three years 1:27:59.320 --> 1:28:02.080 down the road and it's nowhere on my stuff, it's 1:28:02.080 --> 1:28:05.160 on their stuff, and it just lived. I since have 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:07.599 been able to have something just living and then someone 1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:08.200 gets it. 1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:11.000 Right, So, yeah, did they tell you how much money 1:28:11.000 --> 1:28:11.840 are we talking here? 1:28:12.520 --> 1:28:16.040 We're talking a lot of money, enough money that it matters. 1:28:17.400 --> 1:28:22.880 So no, I think that they have responsibility. They sind 1:28:22.920 --> 1:28:24.800 have generated if they couldn't think, and then if they 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:27.680 could think, then then it should go away. That's why 1:28:27.720 --> 1:28:30.080 I'm asking how long should these things last? It seemed 1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:32.439 like it was very temporary and then it couldn't work 1:28:32.520 --> 1:28:34.439 and then it should have just dissolved and gone away. 1:28:34.560 --> 1:28:35.799 It doesn't fit somewhere. 1:28:36.080 --> 1:28:39.920 Yeah, No, they typically are. They are pretty pretty everlasting. 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:40.639 But here's the thing. 1:28:41.320 --> 1:28:45.080 I would really get on Gemini and really really push 1:28:45.160 --> 1:28:48.400 them and for them to explain how this happened exactly 1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:52.280 and why you're responsible for this, what turns out to 1:28:52.320 --> 1:28:55.360 be fraud eighty eight rich one on one eight eight 1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:58.320 seven four to two four one zero one more rich 1:28:58.360 --> 1:29:01.920 on Tech coming up right after this. Yes, welcome back 1:29:01.960 --> 1:29:11.240 to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology. There's 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:15.400 a new connected smart watch for kids. It's called the 1:29:16.080 --> 1:29:21.760 Google Fitbit ace Lte, and it's a new device that 1:29:21.840 --> 1:29:23.560 I think parents are going to like. It's kind of 1:29:23.640 --> 1:29:26.720 up against the Apple Watch, but there are some key differences. 1:29:26.800 --> 1:29:29.840 This was designed with kids in mind. It's coming out 1:29:29.880 --> 1:29:32.920 on June fifth, and uh to talk about it. I 1:29:33.040 --> 1:29:36.960 recently chatted with a Neil Summerwall of Google Fitbit. He's 1:29:36.960 --> 1:29:38.519 gonna explain what it's all about. 1:29:39.240 --> 1:29:43.759 So what inspired the development of the Fitbit ace Lte. 1:29:44.040 --> 1:29:46.839 Well, the fiffit acelt actually is a very personal story. 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:49.599 It comes from my own experience with my daughters who 1:29:49.600 --> 1:29:52.320 were eight and ten a few years ago and my 1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:55.240 wife and I weren't ready to take the plunge and 1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:59.240 buy phone for many reasons I'm sure that you're aware of, 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:01.840 and so we went out looking for an alternative and 1:30:01.880 --> 1:30:04.479 we found kids smart watches and we said this was great. 1:30:04.520 --> 1:30:06.959 So we bought our daughters to these kids. 1:30:06.720 --> 1:30:08.800 Smart watches, thinking that they would allow us to call 1:30:08.920 --> 1:30:10.000 message and know. 1:30:09.960 --> 1:30:10.479 Where they were. 1:30:11.360 --> 1:30:15.799 Surprisingly, or perhaps not surprisingly in hindsight, our kids would 1:30:16.000 --> 1:30:19.519 accidentally forget to charge them, or they would leave them 1:30:19.560 --> 1:30:22.280 at home by mistake, And what we realized really quickly 1:30:22.840 --> 1:30:25.240 was that they saw them more as tracking devices rather 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:28.400 than devices that helped them feel more independent. And so 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:31.080 the inspiration for this device was for parents who were 1:30:31.080 --> 1:30:35.920 looking for an alternative. Could we provide a device that 1:30:36.160 --> 1:30:38.880 kids loved that was built for kids, not an adult 1:30:38.920 --> 1:30:42.200 device that was scaled back for kids, or a device 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:45.000 that condescends to kids. But could we build a device 1:30:45.000 --> 1:30:46.200 that kids loved. 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:47.240 And parents loved. 1:30:47.840 --> 1:30:50.400 So tell me about some of the features on this 1:30:50.479 --> 1:30:54.400 fibit ace LTE because it is a fibit, but it's 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:57.040 also a smart watch, it's also a gaming device, so 1:30:57.200 --> 1:30:58.839 kind of give me the basic features. 1:30:58.840 --> 1:30:59.599 What can you do? 1:30:59.680 --> 1:31:01.760 I like the fact that it has LTE in the name, 1:31:01.800 --> 1:31:04.400 that tells me that it's cellular connected. 1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:08.519 Exactly right. Richie touched on the three main principles of 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:09.000 the products. 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:13.960 So the first is that it's all about inspiring healthy 1:31:14.080 --> 1:31:17.680 and active movement in kids through play. But then number two, 1:31:17.720 --> 1:31:19.439 as you touched on how could we do it in 1:31:19.479 --> 1:31:22.040 a new and inspirational way, and that's where we use 1:31:22.120 --> 1:31:25.040 gaming as the mechanism to do it. So we have 1:31:25.160 --> 1:31:29.080 these really compelling, interactive three D games that we've built. 1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:31.920 That are immersive. They're fun. 1:31:32.520 --> 1:31:35.360 You are fishing, you're dancing, you're a chicken and a 1:31:35.360 --> 1:31:39.920 bathtub racing through space. The only currency is movement and 1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:42.240 so that's principal number two. And then the third one, 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:45.160 which you talked about, is the LTE connectivity. And that's 1:31:45.200 --> 1:31:47.640 so important because what we want to have is a 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:51.680 mechanism for kids to feel like they're growing independence. So 1:31:51.720 --> 1:31:56.080 we have calling, messaging and location sharing. We're using Google's technology, 1:31:56.160 --> 1:31:58.800 so we have Google Maps, so it's not just GPS, 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:00.479 which is often very accurate. 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:02.760 It's using Google Maps as technology. 1:32:02.800 --> 1:32:05.720 That's using Wi Fi and other mechanisms so that you 1:32:05.720 --> 1:32:08.680 can get pinpoint accuracy even inside buildings. 1:32:09.040 --> 1:32:09.720 So, because it. 1:32:09.680 --> 1:32:13.120 Does have the cellular built in, can you touch upon 1:32:13.320 --> 1:32:15.280 how that's going to work? Are people going to add 1:32:15.320 --> 1:32:18.000 this as a device on their current plan? 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:20.679 Is it a standalone plan? And how do you activate 1:32:20.720 --> 1:32:21.799 it and all that stuff. 1:32:22.880 --> 1:32:27.080 The device comes with the fitbit ace app. You download 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:29.479 that on iOS or on androids, So as a parent, 1:32:29.560 --> 1:32:32.439 you simply download that app and then we have everything 1:32:32.560 --> 1:32:35.639 all included in that app. We wanted to make setup 1:32:35.680 --> 1:32:38.600 as simple and easy as possible. You sign in with 1:32:38.640 --> 1:32:42.320 your Google account and we offer you the ace Pass 1:32:42.600 --> 1:32:46.680 Data Plan, so we provide everything with the LTE connectivity. 1:32:46.920 --> 1:32:49.400 The data plan is offered at nine to ninety nine 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:52.200 a month or one hundred and twenty dollars for the 1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:55.439 annual subscription. With that, not only do you get all 1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:58.360 of the lt connectivity, but you get all of the games, 1:32:58.479 --> 1:32:59.960 all of the experiences for Kise. 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:03.200 We have a whole host of parental controls. 1:33:02.840 --> 1:33:06.160 That we offer that allows you, as a parent, for example, 1:33:06.240 --> 1:33:09.320 to add trusted contacts so that they can also call 1:33:09.360 --> 1:33:11.400 and message the child if you have an uncle and 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:14.719 and a grandparent. That's all part of the subscription service 1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:19.080 as well. And the annual subscription also includes a collectible band, 1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:21.720 and we'll talk about the bands in a minute. And 1:33:21.760 --> 1:33:24.040 the band itself is valued at thirty five dollars, so 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:26.240 you get that is the annual subscription, and for the 1:33:26.280 --> 1:33:28.760 next three months until August thirty first, we're running a 1:33:28.800 --> 1:33:32.000 promotion where that annual subscription is actual only sixty dollars, 1:33:32.320 --> 1:33:34.120 So you can get the device, get up and running 1:33:34.120 --> 1:33:36.280 with the fifbit ace pass and for sixty dollars you 1:33:36.320 --> 1:33:39.799 get one year of LT connectivity, all of those updates 1:33:39.800 --> 1:33:42.000 over the course of the year, all of those parental controls, 1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:43.679 and a free thirty five dollars band. 1:33:44.240 --> 1:33:48.760 Wow, that's a great deal. Let's talk about the durability 1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:52.200 of this device. Because it's kids. You know this thing 1:33:52.240 --> 1:33:54.000 is going to get wet, it's going to get dirty, 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:56.800 it's going to be bumped around. So tell me about 1:33:56.840 --> 1:33:58.320 the aspect of durability. 1:33:59.160 --> 1:34:01.240 Every part of this device has been built from the 1:34:01.240 --> 1:34:03.600 ground up. It's a device that I'm incredibly proud of 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:06.200 because we took a clean sheet of paper and we 1:34:06.320 --> 1:34:09.280 started from how do we build a device for kids? 1:34:09.280 --> 1:34:12.280 And exactly as you said, when you're thinking about hardware design, 1:34:12.720 --> 1:34:15.120 you have to think about how kids use it. So 1:34:15.160 --> 1:34:18.040 a simple example, one of the first tests we insisted 1:34:18.080 --> 1:34:20.840 on is it has to pass the washing machine test. 1:34:21.160 --> 1:34:23.360 So if a kid forgets it in their clothes and 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:26.280 it ends up in the laundry, can the device survive? 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:28.719 And the answer in our case is absolutely yes. Because 1:34:28.720 --> 1:34:31.000 that was a really cool part of curability. We also 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:33.839 include a free bumper in the box for added protection, 1:34:33.960 --> 1:34:36.479 so it just clips on. But the band itself is 1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:38.360 what you feel on your skin most of the time, 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:42.520 and so we have done a textile band which is really. 1:34:42.280 --> 1:34:43.960 Comfort uses recycled yarn. 1:34:44.360 --> 1:34:47.719 It has a single loop that attaches with a velcro strap. 1:34:48.120 --> 1:34:50.680 Really easy for kids and really comfortable. 1:34:50.880 --> 1:34:53.600 Tell me about the tech aspect of the band. What 1:34:53.640 --> 1:34:55.759 does it do when it connects to the actual watch. 1:34:55.880 --> 1:34:58.880 So the device has NFC, which it uses for things 1:34:58.920 --> 1:35:00.880 like Have to Pay, which be launching in a couple 1:35:00.920 --> 1:35:03.360 of months, but the band itself does not have NFC. 1:35:03.439 --> 1:35:06.959 It has another patented technology that we put in it 1:35:07.040 --> 1:35:09.800 that allows us that when you connect the band to 1:35:10.000 --> 1:35:14.400 the device, the device will recognize which band you've attached. 1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:17.240 So we have six collectible bands that we're launching and 1:35:17.600 --> 1:35:20.519 depending on which band that you plug in, the device 1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:23.880 will recognize that. It'll wake up your eg which is 1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:26.400 this virtual companion. 1:35:26.479 --> 1:35:28.760 You have almost a tamagatchi that you take care of 1:35:28.760 --> 1:35:29.320 on the device. 1:35:29.400 --> 1:35:31.080 So we really want it to feel like a gaming 1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:33.600 cartridge that you can trade and you can collect. 1:35:33.640 --> 1:35:36.559 What ages do you think this watch is geared towards 1:35:36.600 --> 1:35:39.759 and also I'd like you to touch upon privacy because 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:41.759 this is going to be collecting a lot of data 1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:45.960 about minors, so how is Google handling that data. 1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:51.439 We believe that this device is about motivating activity and 1:35:51.520 --> 1:35:54.519 play and movement through gaming, and the sweet spot for 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:57.479 this device is typically between the ages of around seven 1:35:57.520 --> 1:35:59.960 to eleven. That's really what we've thought of when we 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:02.400 designed the device, because not only have we built the 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:05.240 games and the activity and the movements inspired around that, 1:36:05.240 --> 1:36:08.760 that's also typically where kids are reaching a level of 1:36:08.840 --> 1:36:11.200 independence where they're starting to maybe spend more time on 1:36:11.200 --> 1:36:14.160 their own, go to sleepovers, go to camp, go pick 1:36:14.200 --> 1:36:16.320 the public transport to school, perhaps be. 1:36:16.280 --> 1:36:17.240 It home alone. 1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:20.439 But parents are looking for an alternative to that phone, 1:36:20.439 --> 1:36:23.760 and parents are waiting typically till twelve thirteen years of 1:36:23.800 --> 1:36:26.679 age before they buy that first phone. So as an 1:36:26.720 --> 1:36:30.519 alternative to the phone, this is an ideal product in 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:33.000 that age rain that sweet spot of seven to eleven. 1:36:33.080 --> 1:36:35.600 Seven to twelve to your second question about privacy, and 1:36:35.640 --> 1:36:38.200 I'm really glad you asked that question because that has 1:36:38.240 --> 1:36:41.519 been a driving principle of this product from day one. 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:45.160 So a couple of examples you can access location on 1:36:45.200 --> 1:36:47.960 this device. That location is only shared with the parent, 1:36:48.439 --> 1:36:50.519 and it is deleted from all of our systems within 1:36:50.560 --> 1:36:51.479 twenty four hours. 1:36:51.479 --> 1:36:53.440 We never hold on to that data. 1:36:53.520 --> 1:36:56.439 Similarly, the activity data, and so we delete it from 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:59.000 all of our systems and all of our servers within 1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:02.559 thirty five days. There are no first party apps on 1:37:02.600 --> 1:37:05.280 the device. There's no app store to download other apps. 1:37:05.439 --> 1:37:08.160 There are no ads on the device whatsoever. There never 1:37:08.240 --> 1:37:10.599 will be. None of the data is being used by 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:14.040 Google four Ads or any other reason. It really, truly 1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:16.960 is a device that's been built with privacy and data 1:37:16.960 --> 1:37:20.439 minimization right at the forefront. We feel that this device 1:37:20.720 --> 1:37:24.200 is yeah, unlike anything out there, and certainly for parents 1:37:24.240 --> 1:37:26.519 who've got kids in that seven to eleven and looking 1:37:26.560 --> 1:37:28.600 for an alternative before they take the plunge in the 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:31.080 first phone, we think this is an ideal device. 1:37:32.040 --> 1:37:32.360 All right. 1:37:32.360 --> 1:37:35.799 There you have it, a Neil summerwall of Google Fitbit. 1:37:36.240 --> 1:37:39.639 The one thing to know about the Fitbit ace LTE, 1:37:40.040 --> 1:37:43.280 like I mentioned earlier, is that it does not get 1:37:43.320 --> 1:37:47.200 assigned a traditional phone number. So if you're thinking that 1:37:47.280 --> 1:37:50.800 your kid will have what equates to sort of a 1:37:50.840 --> 1:37:53.400 smartphone on their wrist with a phone number. 1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:54.880 That is not the way this works. 1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:58.200 It is a app connected device, so when you make 1:37:58.439 --> 1:38:01.880 a call to the child or a message, it all 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:04.960 goes through that fitbit app on your phone. And yeah, 1:38:05.000 --> 1:38:07.240 you can have up to twenty different contacts. They're all 1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:10.040 gonna have to download that fitbit app app and be 1:38:10.200 --> 1:38:14.040 linked in and able to access and talk to this device. 1:38:14.080 --> 1:38:17.160 So that's just one thing to know. The fitbit ace 1:38:17.320 --> 1:38:19.679 LT is gonna be two hundred and thirty dollars. It's 1:38:19.720 --> 1:38:23.080 on sale on June fifth through Amazon also the Google Store, 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:26.320 and then the service is ten bucks a month one 1:38:26.360 --> 1:38:28.559 hundred and twenty dollars for the year, but right now 1:38:28.600 --> 1:38:31.519 for the launch, they're doing a deal where it's sixty 1:38:31.520 --> 1:38:34.120 dollars for the first year. Once again, my kid is 1:38:34.160 --> 1:38:37.200 testing this out right now. So far, so good, as 1:38:37.240 --> 1:38:40.880 long as you're aware of the limitation of not an 1:38:40.920 --> 1:38:44.120 assigned phone number. All right, Coming up next, I'm gonna 1:38:44.120 --> 1:38:47.120 tell you where to find some games on YouTube, and 1:38:47.240 --> 1:38:50.080 if you want to watch TV for free, Filo has 1:38:50.160 --> 1:38:54.760 a new subscription free service plus your favorite segment, the 1:38:54.800 --> 1:38:57.280 Feedback coming up next right here. 1:38:57.120 --> 1:38:58.160 On rich on Tech. 1:39:00.800 --> 1:39:04.559 Welcome back to rich on Tech. That song must mean 1:39:04.640 --> 1:39:07.519 it is time to close out the show. Two more 1:39:07.560 --> 1:39:10.320 stories before we get to the feedback segment. First off, 1:39:11.280 --> 1:39:14.280 you can now play games on YouTube. Yes, there are 1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:18.920 more than seventy five games now directly accessible through the 1:39:19.000 --> 1:39:24.439 YouTube app, no additional downloads necessary. There are popular games 1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:29.120 like Angry Birds, Showdown, Cut the Rope, Tomb of the Mask, 1:39:29.320 --> 1:39:33.840 Trivia Crack in My Favorite Words of Wonders. You can 1:39:33.880 --> 1:39:36.559 track your all time best scores, share your progress. You 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:40.440 can even bookmark your favorite games. These are being gradually 1:39:40.560 --> 1:39:43.880 rolled out to users over the coming months, but if 1:39:43.960 --> 1:39:46.000 you want to check to see if you have them, 1:39:46.560 --> 1:39:49.720 open up the YouTube app on your phone. So go 1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:52.200 to YouTube, open it up, and then you might need 1:39:52.240 --> 1:39:53.920 to pull down on the screen a little bit. But 1:39:54.080 --> 1:39:57.280 up in the upper left hand corner, there's something that 1:39:57.320 --> 1:40:01.479 looks like it's like a circle, looks like a navigation circle. 1:40:01.800 --> 1:40:04.240 You tap that and that will bring you to the menu. 1:40:04.479 --> 1:40:06.719 Scroll down all the way to the bottom of the menu. 1:40:06.760 --> 1:40:09.760 Were almost to the bottom, and it'll say playables. You 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:12.879 tap that and you can see all the different games 1:40:13.000 --> 1:40:15.800 that are available for play. Kind of fun to have 1:40:15.920 --> 1:40:18.760 these games built right into your phone. So there you go. 1:40:18.840 --> 1:40:23.080 Seventy five games on YouTube to Play and Filo. This 1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:27.160 is a streaming service that has been available for a 1:40:27.200 --> 1:40:30.840 couple of years. Now they have a new level of 1:40:30.920 --> 1:40:34.360 service that is completely free, so you can watch over 1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:38.479 seventy free ad supported TV channels. They call this fast 1:40:38.960 --> 1:40:44.800 free ad supported Television. Yeah, like regular TV. Non subscribers 1:40:44.800 --> 1:40:48.360 can watch this for free and even record these channels 1:40:48.720 --> 1:40:51.559 without needing to subscribe to the Core package or even 1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:56.080 provide a credit card. The TV channels include reality TV, music, news, 1:40:56.120 --> 1:41:00.960 and classic television shows. It depends what you want to watch, right, 1:41:01.040 --> 1:41:03.400 so check out the channel lineup see if it appeals 1:41:03.400 --> 1:41:05.920 to you and you can get free access. You do 1:41:06.000 --> 1:41:08.840 not need a subscription or a credit card, so they 1:41:08.840 --> 1:41:10.720 say this is a great way for people who are 1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:13.559 not ready to subscribe or maybe they're taking a break 1:41:13.600 --> 1:41:15.480 from paying for the Core package. 1:41:15.920 --> 1:41:16.240 Now. 1:41:16.439 --> 1:41:18.639 You're not gonna find this on their homepage. They don't 1:41:18.680 --> 1:41:21.479 advertise this. This is you got to go to a 1:41:21.479 --> 1:41:26.519 certain website Filo dot com slash go slash free channels 1:41:26.880 --> 1:41:29.400 And if you go to the Filo dot com website, 1:41:29.720 --> 1:41:31.479 you're not gonna see this on the homepage. But if 1:41:31.520 --> 1:41:33.800 you go all the way down to the bottom. There's 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:36.800 a little link that says free channels. You tap that 1:41:36.840 --> 1:41:39.160 and that is your secret way of getting in where 1:41:39.200 --> 1:41:41.840 you can sign up for free. Of course, I'll link 1:41:41.880 --> 1:41:45.040 that up on the website. Rich on tech dot TV. 1:41:46.400 --> 1:41:48.720 All right, now on to the feedback segment. We got 1:41:48.760 --> 1:41:51.640 a lot of comments about last week's show. One of 1:41:51.680 --> 1:41:54.000 the callers said that he had a record player in 1:41:54.080 --> 1:41:57.639 his car, and we were curious if that was actually true, 1:41:58.040 --> 1:42:01.360 and it turns out, yes, there were record players in cars. 1:42:01.520 --> 1:42:04.160 I still can't believe this. I still need to see this, 1:42:04.520 --> 1:42:06.639 but I got a lot of emails about it. And 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:10.880 Len in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania said, Hey, Rich, remember it's likely 1:42:10.920 --> 1:42:13.360 that the engineers who put a record player in cars 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:17.280 envisioned you playing records at a picnic or another outdoor 1:42:17.320 --> 1:42:21.240 family event, not while you were actually driving down the road. 1:42:21.479 --> 1:42:25.080 And many people sent me links to pictures and websites 1:42:25.240 --> 1:42:28.200 about these record players. So, yes, thank you for all 1:42:28.280 --> 1:42:33.440 of the comments about the record players. I got them. 1:42:33.439 --> 1:42:38.360 No more necessary. Ivan in Vermont says, hey, Rich, this 1:42:38.400 --> 1:42:43.320 is feedback about our EV interview. EV's are governed by physics, 1:42:43.360 --> 1:42:46.160 plain and simple. An eight hundred mile EV trip from 1:42:46.240 --> 1:42:50.799 Vermont to Michigan adds hours to the trip. EV's escaping 1:42:50.880 --> 1:42:54.040 a hurricane along I seventy five in Florida, stuck in 1:42:54.080 --> 1:42:57.320 miles long traffic jams. Can't just plug in and go 1:42:57.400 --> 1:43:01.160 in minutes, buy one at your own peril. Meanwhile, having 1:43:01.200 --> 1:43:03.479 a choice is a must, and the FEDS need to 1:43:03.560 --> 1:43:09.280 keep their paws off the transportation industry. Thanks Ivan. It 1:43:09.320 --> 1:43:11.639 was a debate last weekend we drove to Palm Desert. 1:43:11.640 --> 1:43:14.160 Of course, my wife does not like to drive the 1:43:14.360 --> 1:43:17.840 EV anywhere on a road trip because it adds time 1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:20.360 and it adds annoyance, and yes, it was annoying. We 1:43:20.400 --> 1:43:22.920 got to our friend's house. I was on empty and 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:24.960 I didn't want to plug in at their house because 1:43:25.000 --> 1:43:27.000 I think that that is you know, you don't know 1:43:27.000 --> 1:43:29.280 what their electricity is like there or how expensive it's 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:29.680 going to be. 1:43:29.760 --> 1:43:30.880 So yeah, it took me an hour. 1:43:31.160 --> 1:43:33.479 When everyone else was having drinks by the pool, I said, oh, 1:43:33.520 --> 1:43:35.599 I got to go drive the car to the charger, 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:38.720 and it took an hour to go charge it up. 1:43:38.960 --> 1:43:40.760 Yeah, it's definitely a consideration. 1:43:41.800 --> 1:43:45.280 Pete from San Luis Obispo, California says, Hey, Rich, I 1:43:45.320 --> 1:43:48.000 invite you to watch AI perversion on Prime. 1:43:48.800 --> 1:43:50.360 Is that something I can mention on the radio. 1:43:50.640 --> 1:43:54.320 It's truly fascinating how an AI powered virtual assistant can 1:43:54.360 --> 1:43:58.320 make and execute decisions based on one's personality. It is 1:43:58.400 --> 1:44:02.439 a French Subtitlepete. When I'm feeling like I want some 1:44:02.560 --> 1:44:07.400 AI perversion, I will watch that. Germo in Los Angeles says, hey, Rich, 1:44:07.439 --> 1:44:10.559 I have the T Mobile Unlimited Freedom Plan with taxes 1:44:10.600 --> 1:44:13.040 and fees included, which was carried over from Sprint. I 1:44:13.080 --> 1:44:15.799 have two phones and other devices. I have not received 1:44:15.840 --> 1:44:19.960 any notification of a rate increase just yet. Also, you 1:44:20.000 --> 1:44:22.320 can get the fifty five plus Magenta plan, but it's 1:44:22.320 --> 1:44:25.000 not really advertised and it's not on the website. You 1:44:25.080 --> 1:44:28.160 have to call in as it's buried on the phone 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:32.799 plan options. Yeah, a lot of people emailed me about 1:44:32.960 --> 1:44:36.719 the T Mobile price increase and they are not happy, 1:44:36.760 --> 1:44:39.960 and they are looking at other options, and I say, 1:44:40.160 --> 1:44:43.600 look at those other options. There are many many alternatives 1:44:43.640 --> 1:44:46.839 to the big three out there, mv and O's Visible 1:44:47.960 --> 1:44:51.960 Mobile AX. We mentioned Tello, You've got Cricket, You've got Visible. 1:44:52.280 --> 1:44:55.479 You've got so many that you can subscribe to that 1:44:55.600 --> 1:45:00.280 have much cheaper plans with less data and no fee. 1:45:01.920 --> 1:45:04.280 Kenny and Rhode Island writes in Hey Rich, a while back, 1:45:04.320 --> 1:45:06.880 you mentioned that Google would be making its editing tools 1:45:06.880 --> 1:45:10.160 Google Magic Editor, specifically available for free. I would believe 1:45:10.200 --> 1:45:13.479 it was supposed to be available for iOS on May fifteenth. However, 1:45:13.560 --> 1:45:15.880 I don't see it on my Apple fourteen Pro. I 1:45:15.960 --> 1:45:18.760 contacted Google. They had me delete the app, reboot my phone, 1:45:18.800 --> 1:45:20.519 reinstall it, but still no Magic Editor. 1:45:20.560 --> 1:45:23.559 Any ideas on why love the show? Thanks? 1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:27.360 Yes, The reason is it's rolling out the two most 1:45:27.360 --> 1:45:29.800 hated words in the tech world. Rolling out means not 1:45:29.920 --> 1:45:33.000 everyone gets it at the same time, and it means 1:45:33.040 --> 1:45:35.280 if you're waiting for it, you're not gonna get it 1:45:35.320 --> 1:45:38.040 for a long time because they know you're waiting for it. No, 1:45:38.120 --> 1:45:39.960 they don't actually know that, but I'm just saying it. 1:45:40.840 --> 1:45:44.479 So I just got this on a non pixel device, 1:45:44.680 --> 1:45:47.320 so it is rolling out. It is happening. It showed 1:45:47.400 --> 1:45:50.479 up on my Samsung S twenty four Ultra, so it 1:45:50.560 --> 1:45:52.400 is a matter of time before it shows up in 1:45:52.439 --> 1:45:55.479 your iOS iPhone device. It is not shown up on 1:45:55.560 --> 1:45:57.639 my iPhone device. So I'm right there with you, Kenny, 1:45:57.840 --> 1:45:59.840 and yes, I understand why you want it because it's 1:45:59.880 --> 1:46:03.840 really cool. Jackie writes, I was scammed on social media 1:46:03.960 --> 1:46:07.240 Facebook over a vacuum mop that was supposedly through QVC. 1:46:07.320 --> 1:46:09.800 It looks so real, even with people demonstrating it, but 1:46:09.800 --> 1:46:12.120 when I called QVC about my order, I found out 1:46:12.160 --> 1:46:14.040 it was a scam. We live in a crazy world. 1:46:14.320 --> 1:46:17.479 It's very scary these days, especially since everything is done 1:46:17.520 --> 1:46:20.680 on computers and phones. I'm in my mid sixties and 1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:23.520 all this technology is new and sometimes frustrating. 1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:27.160 Indeed, it can be. Ah, that's gonna do it. 1:46:27.200 --> 1:46:29.559 For the feedback, thanks so much for listening to this 1:46:29.640 --> 1:46:32.000 episode of the show. You can find everything I mentioned 1:46:32.080 --> 1:46:35.200 on my website. Just go to Richontech dot tv. You 1:46:35.200 --> 1:46:37.280 can find me on social media. I am at rich 1:46:37.360 --> 1:46:39.960 on Tech, and don't miss out on the newsletter packed 1:46:40.280 --> 1:46:43.240 with valuable information, just like this show. You can sign 1:46:43.280 --> 1:46:45.720 up with your email at the website. 1:46:46.120 --> 1:46:46.559 Next week. 1:46:46.600 --> 1:46:48.280 I know I promised him for this week, but he's 1:46:48.280 --> 1:46:50.880 gonna be next week. Drew Binski has gone to every 1:46:50.920 --> 1:46:54.000 country in the world. 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