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Speaker 3: Hey Rich, good morning morning. What do you what brand

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Speaker 1: Is that something that interests you because those are a

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Speaker 1: Some of them connect to the oh gosh, what's that

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Speaker 2: So that's like, you know, that's the left.

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Speaker 1: And then the other one is best Reviews dot com,

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Speaker 1: Mark eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a fantastic day. So this week,

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Speaker 1: the US, along with some international partners and authorities, took

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Speaker 1: It means that all of these people downloaded software to

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Speaker 2: All of those.

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Speaker 1: Instructions are on the website. Go to Rich on tech

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Speaker 2: John, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Rich, enjoy your show. Thank you for taking my question.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have I have an R low Pro five camera, okay,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you have you have the rlow camera, and

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Speaker 1: fresh with this camera and I would try to connect

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Speaker 1: it to your router that way and see going through

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Speaker 1: the setup process.

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Speaker 2: That's number one.

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Speaker 1: If that does not work, then I would flip that

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Speaker 1: little Verizon Home Internet box over. There is instructions on

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Speaker 1: the bottom on how to connect to the actual box

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Speaker 1: to modify the network.

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Speaker 2: Have you been into those settings at all?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 1: I haven't, Okay, so proceed with caution because you don't

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Speaker 1: want to change a lot of stuff and mess things up.

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Speaker 1: But what you're looking for is a way to temporarily

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Speaker 1: turn off that five gigahertz spectrum, that five gigahertz band

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Speaker 1: on that Verizon box, just to connect this camera. And

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Speaker 1: then once the camera gets connected to that, because that

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Speaker 1: will be the only network that it sees, hopefully it'll

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Speaker 1: just go on there and then you can turn on

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Speaker 1: that five gigahertz network again. It seems like you're not

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Speaker 1: the only one having this problem. If you look up online,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen that. There are some there are

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Speaker 1: some other folks having the same issue, but everyone that

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing it sounds like the reset will definitely make

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Speaker 1: this work again. I think what's happening is your camera

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Speaker 1: is looking for that other network that it used to remember,

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Speaker 1: and it's not finding that for some reason. And so

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Speaker 1: I think you just need to reset this camera back

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Speaker 1: to factory and then hopefully it will find that two

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Speaker 1: point four spectrum.

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Speaker 2: Good question, John.

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Speaker 1: We often get that question a lot of people having

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Speaker 1: trouble with some devices, with these routers. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen. Teresa

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Speaker 1: in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania writes in Hey, Rich, I have a

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Speaker 1: question regarding paying my bills using a password manager. I

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Speaker 1: understand how to set it up, but the password manager

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Speaker 1: acts as a safe for all my accounts and their passwords.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: When I open up the password manager using the master

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Speaker 1: my best Buy username and password to pay my bill,

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Speaker 1: this is where I'm confused. Thanks for your time, Teresa,

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Speaker 1: So you're correct. The password manager does act as a

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Speaker 1: vault for all of your accounts and their passwords, and

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Speaker 1: most of them will actually log you in. So when

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Speaker 1: you go to the best Buy website, if you have

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Speaker 1: that information saved in your password manager, it will automatically

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Speaker 1: fill that information in without you doing much and it

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Speaker 1: will actually even log you in. Now, if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: do that, or you're not comfortable with that, you can

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Speaker 1: just open up your password manager when you need to

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Speaker 1: log into best Buy again, and you would just go

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Speaker 1: and search best Buy inside your vault and you would

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Speaker 1: just copy the password from the manager and then paste

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Speaker 1: it into the best Buy website. Usually your username is

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Speaker 1: your email address. You don't need to copy and paste that.

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Speaker 1: But those are the two ways you do it. It

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Speaker 1: is very straightforward, it is very simple. But ninety nine

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Speaker 1: percent of the time these password managers are actually going

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Speaker 1: to just fill in the information on their own. There's

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Speaker 1: not much you have to do. Sometimes, if the website's

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Speaker 1: a little different or a little off, which you need

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Speaker 1: to be careful about, it will say, hey, are you

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Speaker 1: sure this is the website? Are you sure you want

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Speaker 1: us to paste this in? I've noticed that they've gotten

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Speaker 1: pretty smart about pasting stuff in. But otherwise, you can

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Speaker 1: always go into your password manager and just manually copy

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Speaker 1: and paste that password. You just have to remember that

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Speaker 1: strong master password for your vault and keep that in

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Speaker 1: a safe place somewhere in your head. And also set

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Speaker 1: up two factor authentication. Great question if you have one.

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Speaker 1: I was. You know, if you listen to like a

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Speaker 1: those anyway. It's just like when I when I was

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't whatever. Anyway, it's not a

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Speaker 2: Fran and Studio City.

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Speaker 3: Fran.

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Speaker 9: Hi Rich, longtime fan.

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Speaker 10: So I'm in the market for a new TV.

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Speaker 11: And currently we want to keep our spectrum.

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Speaker 10: Because we have a DVR, and we use a Roku,

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Speaker 10: and we have an LG an older LG TV that

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Speaker 10: won't let me update any more apps or anything like that.

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Speaker 10: So what's annoying is that every time we need to

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Speaker 10: go to, say spectrum, we have to change the input.

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Speaker 9: And so I'm looking at the TVs and someone told

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Speaker 9: me that a Samsung has Spectrum built in in, so

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Speaker 9: we wouldn't have that issue. But I'm an big Apple user.

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Speaker 10: I have Apple all over the house.

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Speaker 9: Apple airport extenders, and I'm wondering if that's if I

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Speaker 9: go to Samsung, if it's going to uh interfere with

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Speaker 9: my Apple setup, you just give.

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Speaker 2: Me more headache. Do you have an Apple TV?

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Speaker 1: Nokay not, so what's your Apple set up?

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Speaker 2: With the with the TV situation, It's just right now.

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Speaker 9: It's a USB into an airport, an airport extender.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're not using you're not using any aspect

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Speaker 1: of your Apple stuff with the TVs.

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Speaker 10: The only thing I have is an older Apple TV,

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Speaker 10: you know, one of those little squares, and and I

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Speaker 10: do use that occasionally to make it easy to access

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Speaker 10: Apple screen sharing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is that connected to your main TV?

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Speaker 10: Pardon me?

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Speaker 2: Is that connected to your main TV?

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Speaker 10: I can connect it because I have four HDMI ports.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well here here's what I would say. So a

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Speaker 1: couple of things here. Number one, you've got the DVR

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Speaker 1: from Spectrum. You don't want to give that up because

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Speaker 1: you you like your DVR, you like your programs, you

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Speaker 1: like switching channels.

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Speaker 2: Is that what I'm understanding?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, mainly mainly to the ballgame.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, no, I get it way, I get it too.

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Speaker 1: So there there is a Spectrum TV app, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's what your friend is referring to. And Samsung,

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Speaker 1: according to the Spectrum website, Samsung Smart TVs do have

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Speaker 1: that app. So theoretically you could ditch the box on

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Speaker 1: this TV, use the Samsung Smart TV interface onload the

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Speaker 1: apps for like Netflix and things like that and then

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Speaker 1: you can also just open up the Spectrum app.

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Speaker 2: Now that would be without a box.

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Speaker 13: So, uh, I don't want to eliminate the buvenant, Okay, No.

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Speaker 10: We want to be able to use the DVR, fast forward,

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Speaker 10: go back, record stuff, all of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of that you can do on the

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Speaker 1: on this Spectrum app. I personally I use the Spectrum app. I.

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Speaker 1: It's not as easy as the actual box, of course,

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Speaker 1: not because it's an app and you know the channels

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Speaker 1: and things.

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Speaker 2: Everything's just kind of a little bit.

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Speaker 10: Right, and my husband is app resistant.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's fine.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to get a TV and you

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Speaker 1: want a smart TV, there's a couple of ways you

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Speaker 1: can do this. Number one, you can get what's called

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Speaker 1: the Fire TV Cube. And what's neat about the Fire

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Speaker 1: TV Cube is that you can have all the smart

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Speaker 1: stuff on your screen, but your your DVR from Spectrum

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Speaker 1: actually plugs into the back of that and then that

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Speaker 1: plugs into your TV.

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Speaker 2: So what that.

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Speaker 1: Means is that you when you so you see your

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Speaker 1: DVR all day like your TV is just the way

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Speaker 1: it is right, just the way it is today with

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Speaker 1: your with your Spectrum DVR. But when you want to

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Speaker 1: watch Netflix, all you have to do is press a

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Speaker 1: button on the Fire TV remote and without changing an input,

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna overlay Netflix on top of your screen already.

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Speaker 1: So it's one input for your entire setup. Now, that

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Speaker 1: box is a little expensive because it's a it's over

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. Plus you have the TV, plus you

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Speaker 1: have your DVR. But that's the cleanest setup that I

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Speaker 1: can think of. If you want to continue using that

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Speaker 1: DVR box and go with a smart TV. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you just go with a Samsung Smart TV, you can

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Speaker 1: still use the smart TV, but yes, you are gonna

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Speaker 1: have to change inputs every time you want to use

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Speaker 1: that DVR with Spectrum and then switch to something like

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Speaker 1: a Netflix, it will have to switch to that that

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Speaker 1: Netflix input.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's on the smart TV kind of side of things.

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Speaker 11: Currently, we're currently using ro coup because on our other

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Speaker 11: TVs in the house, we use the Spectrum.

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Speaker 14: App on the ro coup.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so you already understand what that set up is, Like,

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Speaker 1: what are you asking me? What are you trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out?

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Speaker 8: That's why I, uh, well, I've been you know, we've

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Speaker 8: been a big fan of the l G TVs. They've

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Speaker 8: been great, So I guess when I when I was

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Speaker 8: investigating them, somebody said that the Sanson TV is a

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Speaker 8: better option for people that.

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Speaker 13: Want to eliminate one of the uh, you know, eliminate

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Speaker 13: changing the import or.

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Speaker 10: Eliminate one of the remote.

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Speaker 14: So I don't know, but I guess what I want

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Speaker 14: to know is what does Samsung TV If it.

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Speaker 13: Does eliminate one of the remote will it interfere with

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Speaker 13: my Apple setup?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to interfere with your Apple setup,

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Speaker 1: but a couple of things. I would look for a

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Speaker 1: TV that has airplay built in. A lot of these

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Speaker 1: smart TVs do, which means you'll be able to share

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Speaker 1: stuff from your iPhone screen to that TV. Various brands

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Speaker 1: now have that built in, so I would look for

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Speaker 1: airplay on that TV.

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Speaker 10: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And then when it comes to whether you go with

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Speaker 1: Samsung or LG, if you like LG, stick with LG.

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Speaker 1: I am not sure if it will eliminate any sort

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Speaker 1: of remote control or anything, because if you want to

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Speaker 1: use that Spectrum DVR, that's going to be on one

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Speaker 1: input and then the other input is going to have

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Speaker 1: all of the smart stuff all of the smarts from

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Speaker 1: the TV. That's generally how they work. So unless the

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Speaker 1: lgtvs are overlaying the smarts on top of the spectrum box,

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Speaker 1: go with the TV you want. Just make sure it

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Speaker 1: has airplace you can use all your Apple stuff and

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Speaker 1: make sure the smart TV supports the apps that you.

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Speaker 2: Want to use.

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. This is

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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Speaker 1: Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology at Triple

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Speaker 1: A rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four two four one zero one.

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Speaker 4: Coming up.

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Speaker 1: There we go, gotta get the hook, like Bobo says.

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Speaker 1: Coming up this hour, we're gonna talk to JP Schmtz,

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Speaker 1: CEO of ghoste. He is a digital privacy expert and advocate. Plus,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about Amazon Prime members get a tasty

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Speaker 1: new perk, and how Google is auto enrolling Android devices

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Speaker 1: in the Find my network.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you need to know.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 2: My name is rich Demiro.

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Speaker 1: This is the show where we talk about the tech

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Speaker 1: stuff I think you should know about. Just got a

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Speaker 1: message from my wife. My child has won the championships

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Speaker 1: for his little league baseball team.

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Speaker 2: That is very exciting.

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Speaker 1: So congrats to my uh my child Tanner, who has

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Speaker 1: been playing baseball for a while.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of kids, Tanner is actually helping me test out

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Speaker 1: a new gadget. It's called the Fitbit ace LTE. This

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Speaker 1: is a fitbit, but it's really a smart watch for

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Speaker 1: kids and their parents.

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Speaker 2: Oh we are the champions. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: We got a little celebration song. Oh here we go

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Speaker 1: sounds so good. Sadly, no one on the podcast will

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Speaker 1: be able to enjoy this. Did you play baseball?

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Speaker 9: Bo?

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Speaker 14: Bo?

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Speaker 15: No?

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Speaker 2: I played football? Football? Okay, there we go. Our kids

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Speaker 2: listening to this song at this point, There we go.

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Speaker 2: It's actually amazing. As a mark of modern technology, I'm

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Speaker 2: able to keep an eye on my kids game right here.

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Speaker 2: I've got a little They stream the games.

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Speaker 1: I mean if you would have told me that ten

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Speaker 1: years ago, I would never would have believed it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: they they have cameras at these fields and you can

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Speaker 1: just watch online.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. Congratulations to them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, as I was talking about, he is helping me

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Speaker 1: test this new Fitbit ace LTE. This is a smart

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Speaker 1: watch design for kids ages seven and uh and what

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Speaker 1: it's meant to do is help them combine exercise with

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Speaker 1: play to encourage an active lifestyle. But it also helps

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Speaker 1: mom and dad and guardians and grandparents keep in touch

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Speaker 1: with your child. So it combines the tracking element, the

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Speaker 1: physical activity tracking element, with actual location tracking, calls and texts.

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you about this device.

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Speaker 1: It's got interactive games built in that reward physical activity.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday when Tanner started setting this thing up, he goes, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I can't play any of the games. I said, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to get out there and move before it

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Speaker 1: unlocks the games. So that's kind of interesting. It's got

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Speaker 1: activity tracking, so there's this noodle activity ring. It's got

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Speaker 1: an EG. I hope I'm saying that right. These are

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Speaker 1: little customizable creatures that get healthier and happier as kids

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Speaker 1: meet their activity goals. So Tanner was of course customizing

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Speaker 1: his EG to look like him, which was kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: And then when it comes to privacy and safety, parents

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Speaker 1: can view their child's location and their activity data. This

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Speaker 1: is protected and deleted after a set period of time,

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Speaker 1: so twenty four hours for location data thirty five days

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Speaker 1: for activity. Parents can always call, send, and receive messages,

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Speaker 1: and manage contacts through the fitbit ace app. I will

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Speaker 1: talk about more of that in a moment, because that's

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Speaker 1: the interesting part of this whole thing. There is a

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Speaker 1: school time mode. There is water resistance up to fifty meters,

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Speaker 1: sixteen hours of battery life between charges. Comes with strong

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Speaker 1: glass for scratch resistance, a bumper that's included to keep

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Speaker 1: this thing from hitting the wall. My kids have Apple Watches,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of times they'll hit the wall with

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Speaker 1: the Apple Watch and it scratches it or it cracks

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Speaker 1: the screen. It's happened with both of them. So if

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Speaker 1: you have an Apple Watch, get one of those little

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Speaker 1: plastic screen protectors or glass screen protectors to save you

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Speaker 1: a headache of getting a three hundred dollars screen repair.

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Speaker 1: There's also six different bands. The bands are unique because

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Speaker 1: each one of them looks unique. But when you you

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Speaker 1: snap it onto the watch, it changes the watch face

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Speaker 1: and it kind of changes the whole theme of the watch.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: So this is two hundred and thirty dollars, which I

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Speaker 1: know is very expensive, but a lot of parents are

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Speaker 1: looking for something like this, and a lot of the

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Speaker 1: current solutions out there are pretty bad. If it's not

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Speaker 1: the Apple Watch, it goes downhill very very fast. Data

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Speaker 1: is ten dollars a month, or one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: dollars for the year if you buy one. Now they're

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Speaker 1: slashing that in half, so she'll get your first year

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Speaker 1: of data for sixty dollars. So all in for the

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Speaker 1: first year, you're looking at about two hundred and ninety dollars.

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Speaker 1: That includes the watch and the service. It's available June

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Speaker 1: fifth through the Google Store and Amazon. Now Here is

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Speaker 1: what I've noticed the catches. And by the way, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a Neil's subber wall of Google Fitbit to

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Speaker 1: discuss this in more detail in the third hour of

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: But I figure I tell you all about this watch.

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Speaker 1: And my observation because here's what I noticed setting up

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Speaker 1: this watch. This is not a classic cellular connected watch

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Speaker 1: as you might expect. There is no phone number for

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Speaker 1: this device as far as I can tell, so it

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Speaker 1: is LTE connected, but all of the calling and all

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Speaker 1: of the texting and messaging actually goes through the app.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: It means that to set people up to be able

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Speaker 1: to communicate with this watch. It's a little trickier than

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Speaker 1: just giving out a phone number. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that parents should know if you are

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Speaker 1: thinking about buying this compared to something like an Apple Watch. So,

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Speaker 1: for instance, with the Apple Watch, both of my kids

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Speaker 1: have an assigned phone number. I can give you that

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Speaker 1: phone number, just like I can any other device.

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Speaker 2: In the world.

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Speaker 1: Anyone can text or call that phone number. Now that's

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Speaker 1: good and that's bad. It makes it easy to get

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Speaker 1: in touch with it, but it makes it bad for

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Speaker 1: you know, a random person can text them. My kids

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Speaker 1: get they actually get invites, like club events, like the

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff that Bobo's promoting on his social media.

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Speaker 1: Like it'll be like, hey, come up to the eighteen

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Speaker 1: plus club on Friday night. It's like free, free entry

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Speaker 1: for guys before midnight. And my kids, You're like, what

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Speaker 1: is this And so I'm like, now that's a spam text,

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Speaker 1: I mean, or it's just misdirected.

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Speaker 2: I'm promoting because it's my birthday party. It is your

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Speaker 2: birthday is this week. It's Wednesday, the fifth, the national holiday.

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Speaker 1: That's it. It's the Bobo Holiday. Yes, it is Bobo's birthday.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about turning what you're turning. I'm

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Speaker 1: proud to turn to forty one. It's a milestone.

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Speaker 2: Well I think forty is a milestone. Well, forty one

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Speaker 2: is the milestone. There you go. I just feel older. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: woke up this morning and my knee was already hurt.

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Speaker 1: The power of suggestion. I'm getting older. But you do

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Speaker 1: notice as you get older that you know you're getting older.

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Speaker 1: When you move, you make sounds.

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Speaker 2: As you move like.

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Speaker 1: Ow yeah, and you will have that moment when when

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Speaker 1: you move just a certain way and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's just you crick something and it's it's that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna feel that way for a week. Well, happy birthday, Bobo.

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Speaker 1: So that is the main thing to know about this

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Speaker 1: device is that adding contacts like I want to add

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Speaker 1: my kid as one of the contacts like his brother

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Speaker 1: and said, okay, you need a Gmail account. So it

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Speaker 1: seems like the person that has that wants to contact

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Speaker 1: this device has to go through the fitbit Ace app,

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Speaker 1: which is a little weird. It's a little wonky. It's

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Speaker 1: not as like straightforward. Now with that said, I think

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Speaker 1: for a kid ages seven to twelve. It's probably not

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Speaker 1: a bad idea. You're if you're a parent, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: download this app. It's gonna be very simple to text

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Speaker 1: back and forth with your kids to see where they

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Speaker 1: are on a map. It's all very good. It's just

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Speaker 1: I think you just need to know that one little

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Speaker 1: key aspect of it is that it's not a phone

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Speaker 1: number assigned to this watch. So as long as you're

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Speaker 1: cool with that, I think this is a really, really

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Speaker 1: good solution. The software is excellent, the device is excellent

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Speaker 1: so far.

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Speaker 2: I'm still testing it.

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Speaker 1: I'll have my full review soon, but I think that

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Speaker 1: that is what you need to know about the fitbit

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Speaker 1: ace LTE.

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Speaker 2: I will have a.

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Speaker 1: Full interview a little bit later on in the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to some more questions in a

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Speaker 1: moment at eight eight eight rich one one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one before

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Speaker 1: we go to break. Amazon has a new Prime perk.

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Speaker 1: You now get grub Hub Plus membership if you are

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Speaker 1: a Prime member for free and ongoing. This is supposedly

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Speaker 1: worth one hundred and twenty dollars annually.

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Speaker 2: But give me a break.

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Speaker 1: You are paying so much extra if you are ever

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Speaker 1: ordering anything online to be delivered to your house. And yes,

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Speaker 1: they can say, oh, you're getting zero delivery fees on

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Speaker 1: eligible orders over twelve dollars, but you're still paying a

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Speaker 1: service fee, and those service fees more than makeup for whatever.

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Speaker 1: So yes, you're paying less than a person that's just

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Speaker 1: coming to the Grubhub app that doesn't have them membership,

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Speaker 1: but you're still paying a premium to get someone to

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Speaker 1: go to a restaurant, pick up your food and bring

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Speaker 1: it to your house. That's how these things work. And

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Speaker 1: we did it last night. Nothing against it. We did

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Speaker 1: DoorDash last night and it's great. It is convenience. It

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Speaker 1: was seven dollars more to have someone bring it to

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Speaker 1: my house then for me to go pick it up.

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Speaker 1: But on a Friday night, do I feel like going out? No,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to go home and have someone bring

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Speaker 1: my food to me, so I paid that premium.

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Speaker 2: Do I do it every night? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: It is way too expensive to order food through these apps.

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Speaker 1: They do have a promotional offer so now through June.

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Speaker 1: Now through is it June second, it's only a couple

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Speaker 1: more days. Prime members can save five dollars on a

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Speaker 1: Grubhub order over twenty five dollars using the code prime five.

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Speaker 1: The other news here is that you can order Grubhub

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Speaker 1: through the Amazon App, so one less app on your phone.

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Speaker 1: You do have to activate it, but if you go

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Speaker 1: to the Amazon app and you search grubhub, you can

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Speaker 1: activate the Grubhub within the Amazon app, and you can

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Speaker 1: also activate that free prime five code. Let me just

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Speaker 1: confirm that it that it actually expires when it does,

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Speaker 1: because you've got to act on that fast if you

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Speaker 1: want it. Let's see zero dollar. Yeah, it's only through

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Speaker 1: June second, so if you want to, yeah, basically this weekend.

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Speaker 2: So that's it.

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Speaker 1: Five dollars off your twenty five dollars order. But you

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Speaker 1: now get Grubhub plus for the entire year. It used

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Speaker 1: to be once you signed up for it renew at

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Speaker 2: They're only doing it as like a promo. Now it's

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Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking

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Speaker 15: Let's go to.

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Speaker 1: Don in Rancho, Palos Verdes, California. Don Dan, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Hi, Rich. I got a question about passwords. I

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Speaker 16: had these password compromises, and that says I should change

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Speaker 16: the password. And then I go and look on it.

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Speaker 16: There's one hundred and fifty five passwords I have to

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Speaker 16: take care.

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Speaker 2: Of that were compromised, or that you have total?

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Speaker 16: Well I have total, but there there's that many compromised

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Speaker 16: and I should change the password immediately.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, okay, that does seem overwhelming. Yeah, what's

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Speaker 1: telling you that these passwords are compromised?

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Speaker 16: I just says that there was a data leak, and

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Speaker 16: I heard something on Ticketmaster was compromised. I noticed Ticketmaster

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Speaker 16: is one of the account.

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Speaker 2: But which which app is telling you that these are compromised?

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Speaker 2: Is it Google? Chrome? Is it the I FID.

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Speaker 16: Would to ge let me see it would be where

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Speaker 16: you just check on password. So have I been on

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Speaker 16: the computer?

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Speaker 2: Have I? Oh, oh, so on your computer on your

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Speaker 2: Chrome web browser.

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Speaker 16: Uh, Chrome, I'm not sure. I don't see Chrome. I

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Speaker 16: think it's a Google.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So if you go to passwords dot Google dot com,

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Speaker 1: is that okay? If you go there and you're looking

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Speaker 1: at password check up, is that what.

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Speaker 16: You're I'm on passwords it says detect compromise password security

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Speaker 16: recommendation okay, and what not? Sure what it's under?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like what's telling you to do that? Because that's

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Speaker 2: that's my question.

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Speaker 1: I don't now are you using the same password across

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Speaker 1: all one hundred and fifty five websites?

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Speaker 16: No, of course not. Okay, so they're different.

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Speaker 2: I doubt that all of your past Are you using

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Speaker 2: a password manager?

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Speaker 16: No, I'm not. That's what I was wondering. Okay, should

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Speaker 16: I go to that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I would.

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Speaker 1: So what I would do is if you're gonna, if

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Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned as to what is serving up

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Speaker 1: and so I'm a little concerned that you know, something

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Speaker 1: I you know, without knowing what's telling you to change

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Speaker 1: these passwords. Here's what I would do. My main thing

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Speaker 1: a couple of recommendations for that.

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Speaker 2: So if you're using to use an iPhone or Android iPhone, okay, so,

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Speaker 2: and you're using a Chrome web browser on your computer.

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Speaker 16: I believe it's Google.

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Speaker 2: It's it's Google, okay, so Google Chrome.

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Speaker 1: So I would you could use the Google Chrome built

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Speaker 1: in password manager. So if you go on Google Chrome

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Speaker 1: upper right hand corner, there's three little dots and that's

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Speaker 1: the menu button. If you go to passwords and autofill,

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Speaker 1: there is an option called Google Password Manager, and you

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Speaker 1: can start using that to save your passwords and to

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Speaker 1: also generate your passwords. And then on your iPhone, you

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Speaker 1: spring into action and say, oh, I know the password,

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Speaker 1: and it will fill it in for you.

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Speaker 2: So that's the main thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to embark on this journey to change

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five passwords. That's what I would do,

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Speaker 1: so that you get them all in a safe place

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Speaker 1: and they are generated, unique and strong and one time only.

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Speaker 2: Now, the way I.

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Speaker 1: Would tackle the one hundred and fifty five passwords change

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Speaker 1: is I would start with your main apps, So the

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Speaker 1: your email, and I think those are pretty much your

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Speaker 2: Those are the main ones.

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Speaker 1: You want to change first, and then of course you

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Speaker 1: can change the lesser ones a little bit later as

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Speaker 2: But that's what I would do. Okay, does that sound good?

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Speaker 2: Sound doable?

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Speaker 16: I will try it?

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Speaker 5: Thanks for yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the website I would go to first is just

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Speaker 1: go to passwords dot Google dot com to see if

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Speaker 1: you're already using that password manager, and if you aren't,

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Speaker 1: there's a little that's an easy way to turn it on.

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Speaker 1: You can just hit the gear icon on that page

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Speaker 1: and it says offer to save passwords, and there's also

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Speaker 1: auto sign in, So that's probably the easiest way to

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Speaker 1: do it. And you know that'll work across your iPhone

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Speaker 1: and your Chrome web browser, and it's a it's a nice, free,

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Speaker 1: easy way to start with a password manager.

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Speaker 16: Got it, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dan, looks like you've got some homework there.

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Speaker 1: I will be I will be checking it and grading

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Speaker 1: it when you come into class on Monday morning.

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Speaker 2: So please complete it in Uh.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to complete all one hundred and fifty five,

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Speaker 1: but do as much as you can, all right. Eighty

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Speaker 1: eight rich one one eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. So Google is going to

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Speaker 1: start in auto enrolling Android devices in their find my network.

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Speaker 1: So this is their equivalent of Google of Apple's AirTag

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Speaker 1: find my Network.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you all about that.

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Speaker 1: But coming up, we're gonna talk privacy. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: with the CEO of Ghostry, and he's gonna tell us

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Speaker 1: about tools, browsers and how to protect ourselves online. That's

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Speaker 1: coming up right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,

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Speaker 1: talking technology. We'll get back to the phone lines in

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Speaker 1: just a moment. That's eighty eight rich one on one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: But first let's talk to JP Schmatt's CEO, of Ghosty.

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Speaker 1: This is an ad blocker and a privacy browser and

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Speaker 1: JP is a digital privacy expert and advocate.

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Speaker 2: JP. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thanks thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: So explain what ghosty is all about.

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Speaker 5: First off, well, ghostri is an extension to your existing browsers.

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Speaker 5: So you're surfing with Chromo, Safario Edge or whatever you use,

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Speaker 5: and you put us on, and what we do is

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Speaker 5: we basically make sure that all of the stuff you

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Speaker 5: don't see. So all of the trackers that are behind

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Speaker 5: the pages that you visit are basically not showing up

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Speaker 5: in your browser and therefore not able to know where

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Speaker 5: you were.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, keep going.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, every time you load the page, there's a you know,

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Speaker 5: fifty to sixty seventy trackers behind it from Google, Facebook,

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Speaker 5: tech Talk, et cetera. Basically look looking at what you

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Speaker 5: are doing. And that's why you have sometimes the impressions

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Speaker 5: that ads are following you around or your phone is

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Speaker 5: listening to you. In fact, it's very often just these

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Speaker 5: trackers looking at what you're doing online.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's like a number one question I get is

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Speaker 1: people think that their phone is listening to their conversations.

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Speaker 1: But you're saying that these trackers are so ubiquitous that

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Speaker 1: that's actually what's making those things show up on our

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Speaker 1: Instagram feeds.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's much more likely. So you're doing a searching Google,

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Speaker 5: you're visiting pages, you're surfing along the web, and all

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Speaker 5: of these tracks are being recorded, and then somehow you

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Speaker 5: have the feeling that people have been listening to you,

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Speaker 5: but in fact they've just been watching you. And ghost

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Speaker 5: three is removing this even before it happens.

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Speaker 2: So what's the benefit of removing this information?

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Speaker 5: Well, first and foremost, your pages will load faster because

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Speaker 5: you can't believe how many megabytes are being you know,

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Speaker 5: at than going over your bandwidth, so you'll the net

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Speaker 5: will go faster, you will use less over your bandwidth

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Speaker 5: if you're limited in that way, and the big tech

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Speaker 5: and the trackers will not have the information about what

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Speaker 5: you did and therefore will not bid on the ads

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Speaker 5: that you know that would be retargeting you.

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Speaker 1: And so do you recommend that people install these sorts

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Speaker 1: of things? I wonder you know, as we Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, absolutely absolutely. We just did a survey that

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Speaker 5: shows that people who work in advertising or people who

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Speaker 5: work in tech are you know, infinitely more likely to

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Speaker 5: have an ad blocker and anti tracker install on their

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Speaker 5: brother so people will know what's going on. Basically install that.

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Speaker 1: And so my question is if everyone installs these ad blockers,

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Speaker 1: what about all these companies that you know, depend on

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Speaker 1: that advertising revenue. Is there another way for them to

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Speaker 1: make money.

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Speaker 5: Well, it doesn't block all ads. It tends to block

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Speaker 5: ads that are coming through so called programmatic networks, so

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Speaker 5: basically as that are coming from other places than the

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Speaker 5: site that you are visiting. So it's true that some

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Speaker 5: websites tend to rely on these network you know, exclusively,

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Speaker 5: and they will obviously make less money from a ghost

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Speaker 5: rey user than a normal user, but a lot of

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Speaker 5: website i have moved to a different type of advertising

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Speaker 5: that doesn't rely on having private information about you.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think we're seeing such an interest in

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Speaker 1: kind of this privacy conversation.

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Speaker 2: These days?

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Speaker 5: Well because it keeps getting worse. Right, ghost Rey was

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Speaker 5: founded in two thousand and eight and we thought, oh

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Speaker 5: that was pretty bad at that time, but it's nothing

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Speaker 5: compared to what it is today. It's just there are

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Speaker 5: more and more of these trackers, and the attic industry

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Speaker 5: is getting bigger and bigger. Yeah, and people get educated

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Speaker 5: or they hear it from someone they know and trust

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Speaker 5: that they should use something like this. They do, and

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Speaker 5: then obviously the work becomes faster and a lot cleaner.

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Speaker 5: So it's hard to go back when you try.

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Speaker 1: It now because a lot of the web is supported

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Speaker 1: by advertising. I mean, where do we move forward? Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, how do we move past this? Kind of

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Speaker 1: like if you're not paying for a product, you are

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Speaker 1: the product, right, isn't that with the ideas?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what the idea is when you're not using

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Speaker 5: an ad blocker. I think when you're using an ad blocker,

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Speaker 5: what tends to happen? I think that a good example

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Speaker 5: is maybe YouTube. So we do block the ads on YouTube,

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Speaker 5: but most of the creators on YouTube have ads that

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Speaker 5: are embedded in their podcast right, because they've learned as

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Speaker 5: well that Google is not necessarily their friends when it

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Speaker 5: comes to monetization. So you go back to a more

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Speaker 5: traditional form of advertising, which doesn't rely on on what

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Speaker 5: you were doing two days ago, but rely on the

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Speaker 5: context in which you are at the moment.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting too, because I know YouTube it's been kind

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Speaker 2: of a cat and mouse game between the ad blockers

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Speaker 2: and youtub too, because they've been pushing back and that

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Speaker 2: is that something you guys have to like figure out

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Speaker 2: every other day, like, oh they've switched something again.

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Speaker 5: It's not every other day. But they did a major

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Speaker 5: pustion in a fourth quarter of last year and what

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Speaker 5: happened was really interesting. We saw a massive increase in users.

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Speaker 5: So even though it was kind of not working most days,

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00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 5: but people wanted it to work, so they kept trying

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Speaker 5: to switch browser install us on a different broider. We

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Speaker 5: saw massive movements of people between Chrome and Edge and

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Speaker 5: they would take us with them, right because we can

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Speaker 5: install install grocery on every browser from Safari on iOS

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Speaker 5: to Edge on Windows and whatever you have. And we

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Speaker 5: saw a massive increase in users during that time.

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Speaker 1: What about AI, because now a lot of people have

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Speaker 1: switched to these AI tools and they're feeding a lot

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Speaker 1: of personal information into them. Is there any privacy implications there?

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Speaker 5: They could be, but at the moment it's still what

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Speaker 5: we call first party, which means that you know, when

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Speaker 5: you're talking to open AI or charg GPT, you know

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Speaker 5: that you're talking to chuldg GBT, you are willing fully

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Speaker 5: putting your information there, and you know maybe they will

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Speaker 5: use it, maybe not one day, but you are fully

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Speaker 5: conscious of that. What we do is more the stuff

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Speaker 5: you don't see. Right, So if you go to my

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Speaker 5: favorite example, you know you have maybe your mother or

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Speaker 5: father goes to arp website, why are there sixty companies

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Speaker 5: lurking in the background that they don't see on the website? Right?

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Speaker 5: Why why are all these trackers in the back? That's

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Speaker 5: what we take care to remove. So I think when

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Speaker 5: people are in a one to one relationship with the

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Speaker 5: website that they want to visit, they are perfectly conscious

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Speaker 5: of what's going on. There is no big risk there.

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Speaker 5: The problem is is you go to a website and

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Speaker 5: you just don't see what people collect and then what

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Speaker 5: they do with it later.

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Speaker 1: What's this American Privacy Rights Act And how's that going

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Speaker 1: to impact the average consumers online privacy?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a lawyer nor an American by

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Speaker 5: the way, but I know what regulation tends to do.

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Speaker 5: They tend to say, well, before you do this, you

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Speaker 5: have to ask for consents. And the problem with that

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Speaker 5: is that the big companies are always getting the consent.

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Speaker 5: So you've clicked at one point to a Google button

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Speaker 5: in Google that says Google can collect whatever they want

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Speaker 5: from me, or you go to a website as a

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01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 5: pop up and you click on it really rapidly because

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Speaker 5: you want to do what you want to do on

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Speaker 5: it that side, and then they get the right to

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Speaker 5: collect the data forever and ever and ever. So I

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Speaker 5: think it's very important that you protect yourself with one

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Speaker 5: of these tools. On top in Ghost three, we have

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Speaker 5: something called never consent, which means that automatically we answer

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Speaker 5: no to the question of whether they can collect your data.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're going to ask about that, so you mean

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Speaker 1: for all those like because I mean you said you're

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Speaker 1: not an American, so that I think Europe is where

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Speaker 1: we have to thank for the all those pop ups,

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Speaker 1: for the cookies exactly, so you know, so everyone always

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Speaker 1: has to struggle with those things on the website. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys automatically kind of say no to those yes.

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Speaker 5: So we have a system that not only blocks the

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Speaker 5: pop up so you don't see it, but also remove

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Speaker 5: consents because the problem in many legislation, I think, including

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Speaker 5: most of the states in America, is that if you

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Speaker 5: don't answer, it means you can, right, and so it's

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Speaker 5: quite important to say no, and we do this on

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Speaker 5: your behalf without having you to go through seven layers

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Speaker 5: of multiple choice questions before you can say no.

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Speaker 1: All right, well that's worth it right there. And so

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Speaker 1: how do you guys, how do you guys make money?

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Speaker 1: How does ghost three? Is there a paid or is

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Speaker 1: it all free or what?

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Speaker 5: We are very very small teams, so first of all,

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Speaker 5: we don't lose too much money by not having too

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Speaker 5: many people and being a small, dedicated team. And we

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Speaker 5: live on quite substantial donations in the meantime, So people

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01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 5: can subscribe to because contributors, and they help us discover

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Speaker 5: new trackers, and they help us by giving us a

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Speaker 5: few dollars per month if they want to. But you

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01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 5: don't get more protection by being a contributor.

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Speaker 1: And do you feel like these privacy conversations are overblown

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Speaker 1: or do you feel like people should actually think about

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Speaker 1: this stuff and take some action.

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Speaker 5: I think it's not overblown at all, because when you

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Speaker 5: look at what's going on, it is quite enormous. And

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Speaker 5: I think that the old contract that somehow implicitly was

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Speaker 5: between advertiser, publisher and reader of viewer has been broken

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Speaker 5: by this invisible thing, right because before it was quite clear,

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Speaker 5: like you had a radio show and you had a

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Speaker 5: lot of attention, and then an advertiser would want to

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Speaker 5: sort of piggyback on that attention and would give you, you know, money,

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Speaker 5: and the middleman between you and the advertiser would maybe

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Speaker 5: collect fifteen percent. This is not true today. The middleman

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Speaker 5: tends to collect up to eighty five percent. Oh wow.

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Speaker 5: And spy and spies on you. You know, you never

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Speaker 5: spied on your on your listeners before. Right, You just

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01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 5: had a that that you think they would like and

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Speaker 5: then you got paid for it.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: You didn't know need to know what I was doing

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Speaker 5: five minutes before in the supermarket. Uh. And I think

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Speaker 5: that this we need to go back to that more

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Speaker 5: than this ultra targeted advertising.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna leave it there. Very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm always interested in the privacy aspect of everything, and

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Speaker 1: it's just continuing to be such a huge aspect of

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Speaker 1: our online lives. JP Schmittz of CEO of Ghostory. You

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Speaker 1: can check out the website. It is ghostory dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you want to check out their tool, I'll link

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Speaker 1: it up on my website. Rich on tech dot TV,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today.

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Speaker 5: Thanks you Rich?

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Speaker 2: All right eight Rich one on.

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Speaker 1: One eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of privacy, Google Auto and rolling your Android devices

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Speaker 1: in their new find My network.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you need to know about that

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01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: coming up next. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 17: Right, let's go to.

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Speaker 2: Martin in Palm.

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Speaker 17: D California and the Golden Belly.

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Speaker 2: Martin, you're on, You're on live.

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Speaker 17: I'm just going to get your supercharged for a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: And okay, well get that thing supercharge. You're on with

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Speaker 1: rich On Tech.

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Speaker 2: Are you there? Okay? I think we're gonna go. We're

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: gonna Martin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna give Let's go to uh.

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Speaker 2: Pick, Let's go TV.

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Speaker 18: Let's and I can and I can just emailing.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to is this Granny Rich? What is happening here?

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01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening here.

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Speaker 18: I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know what is going on their phone lines.

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01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: Granny Rich, you're on with rich Are you there?

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: I was just wanting to know what your number one

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 18: anti virus disc for a desktop computer. It's Windows ten.

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Speaker 2: Are okay? Good question.

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Speaker 1: So in Windows ten, they actually have anti virus built

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: in so you can do that, which is fine, but

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01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: if you want to step it up a notch, I

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: would recommend checking out a website called a vtest dot org,

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01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: and that is the website that will tell you they

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01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: do tests on a monthly basis. And right now their

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Speaker 1: number one is A vast a.

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Speaker 18: V A S A B is in Banana.

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Speaker 4: A v.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm forgetting my my own av Victor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A Victor. That's it, yeah, Apple Victor.

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Speaker 10: And what's the rest of it?

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01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: A vast av A S T and that is a

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Speaker 1: free anti virus. Obviously it's a freemium, so they're going

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: to try to sell you on the you know, the

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01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: more premium version. But this gets great ratings. It's a

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: top product. It generally is highly rated among a lot

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Speaker 1: of the tech folks out there. So you can take

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Speaker 1: a look at that website, though, you know.

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Speaker 18: Can I can I repeat this again? A vs in Victor,

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Speaker 18: A S is and sam tasn't tom correct A vast Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 18: because my computer came with a microsf what is it

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Speaker 18: McAfee and my computer guy came in yesterday and told me,

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01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 18: he said, well, you need you need to get a

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01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 18: disc granny. He said, because this your speed. He said,

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Speaker 18: your speeds aren't what did he say, kicking in and

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Speaker 18: he said one is like one O two and one

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Speaker 18: is seventy nine. And I said, well, I have McAfee

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Speaker 18: and I pay it once a year. And he said, well,

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01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 18: you need to get another one. So thanks for telling

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01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 18: me about this one. I'm going to try it because

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01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 18: my computer is HP, like I said, and it's about

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 18: five years old, and this is about my fifth one.

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01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 18: I went to HEWITTT Packers because I liked Compact. But

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Speaker 18: that's it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well check out that website. Yeah you're welcome. Good

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Speaker 2: luck with that.

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01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: But check out the website av dash test dot org

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01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: if you're looking for anti virus for any of your devices.

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01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: This is an independent institute that does a lot of

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Speaker 1: tests on so here it is. It says during March

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Speaker 1: in April twenty twenty four, we continuously evaluated seventeen home

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Speaker 1: user security products using their default settings.

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Speaker 2: And this is what they came up with.

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Speaker 1: So a vast number one AVEG, which I believe is

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Speaker 1: the same company, number two of YOURA number three bitdefender

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Speaker 1: for Enigma Soft five E set number six f secure

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Speaker 1: And then it's interesting the big brand names that you

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Speaker 1: see advertised the most are actually the lowest on the list,

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Speaker 1: which I find very very interesting. All right, let's see

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Speaker 1: if let's see if Martin. Let's let's peak in on

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Speaker 1: Martin again.

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Speaker 5: Martin?

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Speaker 2: Are you there?

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Speaker 17: Yes? I am here.

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, what's up Martin? Welcome to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 2: What can I help you with?

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Speaker 5: Thank you for taking my call?

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Speaker 17: Let me a little background. We developed a self You've.

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Speaker 2: Got to be very quick because we only have a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes here.

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Speaker 17: Oh okay, I know. There's a way you can run

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Speaker 17: a browser application and compallably MOLDE for Internet Explorer, Microsoft Age. However,

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 17: after a month expires all the time, so always get

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Speaker 17: calls from my users, try to walk them through and

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Speaker 17: set up the compellable mode. Again, is there any way

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Speaker 17: we can sit down I stay longer than one month?

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Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't recommend that support for Internet Explorer ended

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, so anyone that's using something that

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Speaker 1: works through that compatibility mode is at risk.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: So why are you not updating the program?

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Speaker 17: Well, we have a new version of the program, by

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 17: some old timers still try to use it. The old

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Speaker 17: version of the software because it still has some old

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Speaker 17: data and they didn't need to retrieve. So that's why

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Speaker 17: we haven't transferred any data from the old system to

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Speaker 17: the new one. Some of the data still in the

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Speaker 17: old system.

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Speaker 1: Well, the only thing I can think of, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing they're doing like the flags inside Edge to

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Speaker 1: turn on the compatibility mode.

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Speaker 2: Is that how you're doing it?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, you come to the setting and default.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, if that's resetting, obviously that's a

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Speaker 1: Microsoft security concern. They're toggling that off by default every

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Speaker 1: thirty days. The only thing I can think of, and

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Speaker 1: I can't recommend this widely because obviously you know there

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01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: are inherent risks with you with using this in a

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01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: mode that is not supported anymore. But I would say

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Speaker 1: the only thing you might be able to do is

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Speaker 1: find an extension that might continue to keep that enabled,

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Speaker 1: or an extension that runs that mode permanently.

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Speaker 2: That's my thought.

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Speaker 1: But again, I think it's best to try to urge

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Speaker 1: these people to update, because you just don't want to

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Speaker 1: be running something that has not been supported in two years,

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Speaker 1: because there are a lot of security implications of that.

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Speaker 2: So I understand the reasoning.

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Speaker 1: But I also see why Microsoft is forcing those changes.

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Speaker 1: But again, there might be some extension that would would

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know of one off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head, but that might be a good way

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Speaker 1: to kind of search for something that keeps that that

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Speaker 1: flag in place even after those thirty days. All right,

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Speaker 1: the website rich on Tech dot TV eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one.

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Speaker 2: Man, do we just go through a whole another hour

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: of this show? Well, we got another hour coming up.

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Speaker 2: That's the good news. And coming up we'll take more

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Speaker 2: of your questions. I'll tell you about this whole uh

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Speaker 2: Android find my network, and I'll tell you how to

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Speaker 2: find some hidden games on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of fun. It's all coming up right here

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Speaker 1: on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: This is how we do it for tech news. Eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four two four one zero one. Welcome to another hour

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Speaker 1: of the show.

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Speaker 2: Coming up.

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Speaker 1: This hour, we're gonna talk to a Neil Subberwall of

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: Google Fitbit. He's gonna discuss details on that new Fitbit

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Speaker 1: ace LTE. This is the connected smart watch for kids.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna explain what it does, what it's useful for,

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Speaker 1: and they're thinking behind creating it. Speaking of Android, you

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Speaker 1: might get a notification on your Android device that says

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Speaker 1: do you want to join the Find my Device network?

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a notification because Google is turning

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Speaker 1: this on for over a billion devices. This is the

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Speaker 1: equivalent of Apple's Find My network that launched with the

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Speaker 1: air tag. Apple has had their network up and running

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years now. Google is just getting

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Speaker 1: theirs up and running. So you're gonna see a whole

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Speaker 1: push for gadgets that tap into this find my Device network,

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Speaker 1: So things like air tags, except on the Google side,

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Speaker 1: So a bunch of different products, Chappolo, Tile, They're all

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Speaker 1: going to have these devices that tap into this network.

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Speaker 1: And these are for Android phones along with your Android devices.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna see earbuds, you're gonna see headphones, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of different things be able to

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Speaker 1: be found with this new network. But how this network

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Speaker 1: works is through all of your devices. So let me

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Speaker 1: give you an example. Your phone. You have an Android phone,

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Speaker 1: it's sitting on your desk at work. Someone loses their

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Speaker 1: keys with one of these little find my trackers attached

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: to their key. Well, that little tracker has Bluetooth in it.

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: Your phone is scanning around your workplace looking for all

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: these different devices all the time, and it finds that

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Speaker 1: little tracker. It reports that location back to Google, and

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01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: that person that lost their keys goes onto their phone

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: and says, now, where did I drop my keys? And

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01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: the phone says, oh, we saw it in at your

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01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: work underneath this desk or whatever. So that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: And so this relies on millions upon millions of devices

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: scanning using Bluetooth and helping locate these other devices. Now,

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01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: this is all done privately. It's all done encrypted. Nobody's

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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: seeing where your phone is. Your phone is not seeing

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: where these other devices are. It's all done encrypted and privately,

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: so only the person that owns that device can actually

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01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: see where that lost item is. This find my Device

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01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: network collects current location, battery level, Wi Fi network, and

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: signal strength to help locate these online devices. For offline devices, yes,

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01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 1: your phone could be offline and it still might be

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01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: able to be found with this new network. Now some

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: of the newer devices have that functionality. I know the

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Speaker 1: pixels do, but not every device is going to have

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Speaker 1: that offline identifying information. So why I'm telling you this

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01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: is because you might get an email that says, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to opt you into this network if you

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01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: don't say anything within the next three days. So if

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Speaker 1: you don't mind helping out and being a part of

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: this network, just let it go. It will opt you

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Speaker 1: in automatically. If you don't want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of this network, if you don't want to help find

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: devices using your devices, you can opt out. And the

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Speaker 1: way you opt out is following that link in the

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: notification you get or the email you get, or you

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Speaker 1: can go to this website Google dot com, slash Android,

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Speaker 1: slash find, slash settings, slash FM d end find my

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Speaker 1: Device Network. I know that's a long website. Google dot com,

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: slash Android, slash find, slash settings, slash fmd N. I

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: will put that link on my website. Rich on tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv in the show notes, this is show number

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Speaker 1: sixty seventy four. Tap the light bulb at the top

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01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: of the screen to get into those show note links.

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Speaker 2: That is the deal.

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01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: You can also opt out at any time, So even

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: if you let this auto opt in, and you decide

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: later on, you know what, I don't want to be

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: a part of this network. You can still opt out now.

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,480
Speaker 1: Even if you don't opt into helping find other devices,

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01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: you can still use find my Device to locate your

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01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: devices when they're online. So it's not necessarily a two

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01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: way street, like you don't have to participate to actually

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: help find your devices, but it would be nice if

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01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: you help participate.

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01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: I think there's enough Android devices in the world where

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: even if you say no, there's still going to be

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: enough people that make this pretty accurate and pretty good.

1445
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: But this is a huge, huge new undertaking by Android

1446
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: to help you find your device anywhere it is in

1447
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: the world when it is lost. And it's going to

1448
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: implement this functionality for so many devices. You're going to

1449
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: see wallets with this find my network, You're going to

1450
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: see tracker tags, you're going to see headphones, all kinds

1451
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: of Android devices moving forward are probably going to have

1452
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: this built in as an appealing feature to help you

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01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: find these devices if they are ever lost. Let's go

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01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: to ed in Los Angeles or ed in Las Vegas.

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01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: ED you're on with rich Las Vegas.

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 12: That's right, Thank you, Rich. I appreciate you taking my call.

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01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 12: So my situation is that I have had for years

1459
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 12: Amazon Music that is now being charged I believe nine

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 12: ninety ten dollars a month, and I was told that

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 12: Prime Music comes free with your Prime membership, which we

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 12: are also paying for. Are they the same thing? I

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 12: know that on the Amazon Music I can play any artist,

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 12: any soundtrack from any movie, any Broadway, play any artist

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 12: with any song they ever recorded. Is it the same

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01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 12: music provided by Prime Music that I could stop paying,

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01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 12: you know, the one hundred and twenty dollars a year

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,440
Speaker 12: and get it for free and along with my Prime.

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: Members It is not the same.

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01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: So it is there is a little bit extra that

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01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: you get with the paid Prime, you know, the unlimited.

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: And this is where it gets very confusing for Amazon

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: to do this because they've given a lot of stuff

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: for free. I mean, they really are giving you a

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01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: lot for free. If you have a Prime membership, you

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01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: can get what's called all Access playlists. So these are

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01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: playlists that let you pick any song and played on

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01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: demand and no skip limits, no you know, or you

1479
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: can even listen to them offline by downloading them. So,

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: but that is a select group of songs. So I

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: would say my main difference between what you're paying for

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: and what you get for free is the choice of

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01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: what you get to listen to.

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: On demand.

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01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 12: That is the more do playlist or downloads because I'm blind.

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01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: So okay, but you know I can just saysk.

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01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 12: Thee abot to play anything from Rihanna to Elvis. I

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 12: can play Duing Eddies nineteen fifty nine, forty Miles the

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01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 12: Bad Road, and it'll play it. Yeah, any song anything

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 12: I want. But you're saying the Prime Music doesn't give me.

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01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: That, well, so what's going to happen on the Prime Music?

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01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: There is a selection of songs, so I believe they've

1493
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: thrown out like a number, right, so there is like

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01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: a certain amount. So with Amazon Music Prime members get

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01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: access to one hundred million songs AD free. Right with

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: Amazon Music Unlimited you get a hundred million songs in

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: HD and million millions of songs in ultra HD. So

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01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: if you have like a super high quality setup, you

1499
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: would get a better audio quality. But the main difference is,

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01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: let's say if you stop paying for this, right ed,

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01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: if you stop if you stop paying for your unlimited

1502
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: and you say I want to play Rihanna and I

1503
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: want to play a certain song by Rihanna, right, and

1504
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't have that song the Free membership. The Prime

1505
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: membership will just play a song similar to that song,

1506
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: and you may be none the wiser. You may say, oh,

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01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: I asked it to play Rihanna's Shut Up and Drive

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it plays something related to that. And

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01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: so not everything is going to be you know, it's

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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: not going to have the entire catalog like Amazon Music

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01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: Unlimited does because you are paying, and also you get

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01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: to listen offline. You get Unlimited skips. So if you

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: don't like a song that it plays on the Amazon

1514
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: Prime and use press skip, yes, it'll skip to the

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: next song, but you're only gonna have a certain amount

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01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: of skips per hour before it says nope, you've got

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01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: to listen to this song.

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01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 2: And the reason they're doing that, whereas.

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 12: On the Unlimited, I can you say next and it'll

1520
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 12: go the next song on the artist I'm listening.

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01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: To exactly, So there is a difference between the two.

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01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 1: What I'd say, ed is try it. I mean, you

1523
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: could always cancel the Unlimited and I know you said

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01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: you paid for a year in advance, so you can

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01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: cancel that now, continue to use it for the year,

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01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: and then when it when it lapses, you can just

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 1: default to the Prime Music. If you have an Amazon

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01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: you have an Amazon Prime membership, Yes we do, so

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: if you have Amazon Prime, you can let it default

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01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: to that and you can try it out. I mean,

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01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people out there

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01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: that are just using Amazon Music Prime for free that

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01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: it just works. And you know how many times are

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01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: you skipping a song in an hour? You don't notice?

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01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: So if it saves you one hundred and twenty bucks

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01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: a year and everything's fine, that's great.

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,919
Speaker 2: But you did you did quite.

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01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 12: Say we pay by the year.

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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure you got that.

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01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 2: Poh, well, then I mean, maybe just cancel it.

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01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 12: And I think I said we pay one hundred and

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 12: twenty bucks a year, but I was just giving a

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01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 12: figure and I got it. We don't pay by the year.

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01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 12: I'm builled once a month, nine ninety nine.

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01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, now here's the other thing. I don't

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01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: know if that's grandfathered in, because I do know that

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01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: they have raised prices on the Amazon Music Unlimited, so

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: I would check to see, let me see exactly what

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01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: that price is now because I.

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01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 12: Really appreciate your time. You're doing a great job than

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01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 12: could you.

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01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so it says starts at nine ninety nine, a

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: month after the thirty day trial, so it sounds like

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01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: it's still the same price. But here's the thing, Ed,

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: when you called out those songs, you sound like you're

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01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: kind of a music guy, and so yes, I feel

1558
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: like you like your music and you like to be

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01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: able to say the song that you want to hear,

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01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 1: and you kind of know a lot of this stuff.

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01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: You may not be happy with the you know, the

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01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: the kind of randomness of the free version.

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01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 12: But right, I get what I want.

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01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's worth try.

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01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 12: In other words, right, you're.

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01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: Not really losing anything by trying it out for a month,

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01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: so I might try.

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: That's what happens.

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01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 12: How can I try it out at the same time

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01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 12: I'm paying for the unlimited and now am I going

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01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 12: to know which one I'm pulling from?

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01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you can do that because it's

1574
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: the same thing unless you set up a different Amazon account.

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01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: But that's you know, you're under your prime account. That's

1576
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: going to be kind of tricky to do. So all right,

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: I say.

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01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 12: Thank you very much.

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01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 4: Rich.

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01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, I appreciate the show very.

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01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: Much, appreciate the kind words, ed, thanks for calling today.

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01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: Eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, I'll tell you where to find some games

1585
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: to play on YouTube.

1586
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: What Yeah, they're there, I'll tell you where to find them.

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01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Coming up right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back

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01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology. The

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01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:11,840
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01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,280
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Speaker 1: audio player. Let's go to Carol in Los Angeles. Carol,

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01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: you're on with rich.

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Speaker 20: Hi, thank you so much for taking your call. I

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01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 20: love the song you played long times understand it that

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01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 20: was very appropriate. Thank you. Briefly, I was hacked on

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01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 20: a crypto exchange of Gemini, which is you know, very

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01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 20: big like point based crack in US base, and I

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 20: was hacked and had a lot of money stolen in

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01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 20: ten minutes. There were two hundred transactions converted the bitcoint

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01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 20: and then too something called Orchid, which I understand it

1612
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 20: is a little more secretive and hard to track, so

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01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 20: trying to figure out what happened. You know, I'm a

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01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 20: very simple user. I'm not on my computer very much

1615
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 20: and just make my investments. They've identified from three years

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01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 20: ago that there was an API that was generated and

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01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 20: this was used to bypass two factor authentication which I

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01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 20: had on the account and somehow get in and hack it.

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01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 20: It wasn't password or email, it was this API. And

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 20: indeed three years ago I was using something called token tax,

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01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 20: which you're supposed to use to pay your taxes, you know,

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01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 20: with a software interface that helps you do the right

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01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 20: thing and and sort of pull in from a few

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01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 20: exchanges you may be on and then calculate your taxes.

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 20: Gem and I would not think though with token tax

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01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 20: it never sinks, unlike a couple of the other exchanges

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01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 20: like binance us or crack, and it never thinks. And

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01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 20: that's it. I mean, I didn't do anything else. And

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01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 20: now three years later they identified twenty twenty one, maybe

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01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 20: there was this one API.

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01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's what happened. So some so this there.

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01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: So what you're talking about is basically a token. And

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01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 1: so it's an API key that you would generate and

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01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot of different not every not a lot, but

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01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: there are accounts out there that can interface with another

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01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: account by generating one of these. It's basically a trusted token.

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01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's saying like, hey, you can

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01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: access this account anytime you want, because I'm giving you

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01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: this token to my account, even if you change the password,

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01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: even if you change your settings, they will have that

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: token until you revoke that token. So what happened was

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01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: it sounds like you somehow generated a token back in

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01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. You might have given it to another website.

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01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: That website at the time was fine, but someone might

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01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: have gotten into that website since and they hacked into

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01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: that site and they got through to your account based

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01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: on that linkage between those two accounts.

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01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Is that how you understand it?

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01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,799
Speaker 20: But on what side? Like so if Gemini, for example,

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01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 20: doesn't have this interface because they couldn't sync up or

1652
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 20: at least this token tax cunt interface with Gemini, did Gemini?

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01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 20: Why would Gemini make this this API number one? Wouldn't

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01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 20: it be short lived? They're not supposed to last very long?

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01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 20: And then similarly, on the other side, token text, if

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01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 20: they received it and it wasn't sinking on it, then

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01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 20: not stay there and be live to be hacked like what?

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01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think.

1659
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is confusing.

1660
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't know the details of how this this token

1661
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,480
Speaker 1: got out. I mean, once it's generated, it does typically

1662
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: stay indefinitely as far as I know. And a lot

1663
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: of times, you know, developers use these tokens. They use

1664
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: these keys to Let's say I'm developing an app for

1665
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: open Ai, Right, So what happens is I use the

1666
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: the like I pay open ai for a certain amount

1667
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: of access, right, and then they give me this token

1668
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: that lets me use that inside my programming application. And

1669
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,799
Speaker 1: that way, that token says, oh, this is Rich's account,

1670
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: we know that he pays us he can access all

1671
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: this stuff and so that there's there are valid reasons

1672
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: why this exists. I think for you, first off, I

1673
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: feel so bad that this happened to you, and it

1674
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: sounds like there's no recourse.

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01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 20: Huh, we don't know. I in my opinion, three years

1676
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 20: down the road and it's nowhere on my stuff, it's

1677
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 20: on their stuff, and it just lived. I since have

1678
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 20: been able to have something just living and then someone

1679
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 20: gets it.

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01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Right, So, yeah, did they tell you how much money

1681
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: are we talking here?

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01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 20: We're talking a lot of money, enough money that it matters.

1683
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 20: So no, I think that they have responsibility. They sind

1684
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 20: have generated if they couldn't think, and then if they

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01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 20: could think, then then it should go away. That's why

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01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 20: I'm asking how long should these things last? It seemed

1687
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 20: like it was very temporary and then it couldn't work

1688
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 20: and then it should have just dissolved and gone away.

1689
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,799
Speaker 20: It doesn't fit somewhere.

1690
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they typically are. They are pretty pretty everlasting.

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01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

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01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: I would really get on Gemini and really really push

1693
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: them and for them to explain how this happened exactly

1694
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: and why you're responsible for this, what turns out to

1695
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: be fraud eighty eight rich one on one eight eight

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01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one more rich

1697
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: on Tech coming up right after this. Yes, welcome back

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01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology. There's

1699
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: a new connected smart watch for kids. It's called the

1700
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Google Fitbit ace Lte, and it's a new device that

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01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 1: I think parents are going to like. It's kind of

1702
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: up against the Apple Watch, but there are some key differences.

1703
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: This was designed with kids in mind. It's coming out

1704
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: on June fifth, and uh to talk about it. I

1705
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: recently chatted with a Neil Summerwall of Google Fitbit. He's

1706
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: gonna explain what it's all about.

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01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:43,759
Speaker 2: So what inspired the development of the Fitbit ace Lte.

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01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,839
Speaker 19: Well, the fiffit acelt actually is a very personal story.

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01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 19: It comes from my own experience with my daughters who

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01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 19: were eight and ten a few years ago and my

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01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 19: wife and I weren't ready to take the plunge and

1712
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 19: buy phone for many reasons I'm sure that you're aware of,

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01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 19: and so we went out looking for an alternative and

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01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 19: we found kids smart watches and we said this was great.

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01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,959
Speaker 15: So we bought our daughters to these kids.

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01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 19: Smart watches, thinking that they would allow us to call

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01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 19: message and know.

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01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 15: Where they were.

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01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:15,799
Speaker 19: Surprisingly, or perhaps not surprisingly in hindsight, our kids would

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01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 19: accidentally forget to charge them, or they would leave them

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01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 19: at home by mistake, And what we realized really quickly

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01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 19: was that they saw them more as tracking devices rather

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01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 19: than devices that helped them feel more independent. And so

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01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 19: the inspiration for this device was for parents who were

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01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 19: looking for an alternative. Could we provide a device that

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01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 19: kids loved that was built for kids, not an adult

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01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 19: device that was scaled back for kids, or a device

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01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 19: that condescends to kids. But could we build a device

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01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 19: that kids loved.

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01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 15: And parents loved.

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01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: So tell me about some of the features on this

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01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: fibit ace LTE because it is a fibit, but it's

1733
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 2: also a smart watch, it's also a gaming device, so

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01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,839
Speaker 2: kind of give me the basic features.

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01:30:58,840 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 15: What can you do?

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01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 2: I like the fact that it has LTE in the name,

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01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 2: that tells me that it's cellular connected.

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01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 15: Exactly right. Richie touched on the three main principles of

1739
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 15: the products.

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01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 19: So the first is that it's all about inspiring healthy

1741
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 19: and active movement in kids through play. But then number two,

1742
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 19: as you touched on how could we do it in

1743
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 19: a new and inspirational way, and that's where we use

1744
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 19: gaming as the mechanism to do it. So we have

1745
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 19: these really compelling, interactive three D games that we've built.

1746
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 15: That are immersive. They're fun.

1747
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 19: You are fishing, you're dancing, you're a chicken and a

1748
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 19: bathtub racing through space. The only currency is movement and

1749
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 19: so that's principal number two. And then the third one,

1750
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 19: which you talked about, is the LTE connectivity. And that's

1751
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 19: so important because what we want to have is a

1752
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 19: mechanism for kids to feel like they're growing independence. So

1753
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 19: we have calling, messaging and location sharing. We're using Google's technology,

1754
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 19: so we have Google Maps, so it's not just GPS,

1755
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 19: which is often very accurate.

1756
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 15: It's using Google Maps as technology.

1757
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 19: That's using Wi Fi and other mechanisms so that you

1758
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 19: can get pinpoint accuracy even inside buildings.

1759
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 15: So, because it.

1760
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: Does have the cellular built in, can you touch upon

1761
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: how that's going to work? Are people going to add

1762
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: this as a device on their current plan?

1763
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 2: Is it a standalone plan? And how do you activate

1764
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:21,799
Speaker 2: it and all that stuff.

1765
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 19: The device comes with the fitbit ace app. You download

1766
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 19: that on iOS or on androids, So as a parent,

1767
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 19: you simply download that app and then we have everything

1768
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 19: all included in that app. We wanted to make setup

1769
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 19: as simple and easy as possible. You sign in with

1770
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 19: your Google account and we offer you the ace Pass

1771
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 19: Data Plan, so we provide everything with the LTE connectivity.

1772
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 19: The data plan is offered at nine to ninety nine

1773
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 19: a month or one hundred and twenty dollars for the

1774
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 19: annual subscription. With that, not only do you get all

1775
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 19: of the lt connectivity, but you get all of the games,

1776
01:32:58,479 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 19: all of the experiences for Kise.

1777
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 15: We have a whole host of parental controls.

1778
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 19: That we offer that allows you, as a parent, for example,

1779
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 19: to add trusted contacts so that they can also call

1780
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 19: and message the child if you have an uncle and

1781
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 19: and a grandparent. That's all part of the subscription service

1782
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 19: as well. And the annual subscription also includes a collectible band,

1783
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 19: and we'll talk about the bands in a minute. And

1784
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 19: the band itself is valued at thirty five dollars, so

1785
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 19: you get that is the annual subscription, and for the

1786
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 19: next three months until August thirty first, we're running a

1787
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 19: promotion where that annual subscription is actual only sixty dollars,

1788
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 19: So you can get the device, get up and running

1789
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 19: with the fifbit ace pass and for sixty dollars you

1790
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,799
Speaker 19: get one year of LT connectivity, all of those updates

1791
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 19: over the course of the year, all of those parental controls,

1792
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 19: and a free thirty five dollars band.

1793
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a great deal. Let's talk about the durability

1794
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 2: of this device. Because it's kids. You know this thing

1795
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 2: is going to get wet, it's going to get dirty,

1796
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 2: it's going to be bumped around. So tell me about

1797
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 2: the aspect of durability.

1798
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 19: Every part of this device has been built from the

1799
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 19: ground up. It's a device that I'm incredibly proud of

1800
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 19: because we took a clean sheet of paper and we

1801
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 19: started from how do we build a device for kids?

1802
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 19: And exactly as you said, when you're thinking about hardware design,

1803
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 19: you have to think about how kids use it. So

1804
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 19: a simple example, one of the first tests we insisted

1805
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 19: on is it has to pass the washing machine test.

1806
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 19: So if a kid forgets it in their clothes and

1807
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 19: it ends up in the laundry, can the device survive?

1808
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 19: And the answer in our case is absolutely yes. Because

1809
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 19: that was a really cool part of curability. We also

1810
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,839
Speaker 19: include a free bumper in the box for added protection,

1811
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 19: so it just clips on. But the band itself is

1812
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 19: what you feel on your skin most of the time,

1813
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,520
Speaker 19: and so we have done a textile band which is really.

1814
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 15: Comfort uses recycled yarn.

1815
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 19: It has a single loop that attaches with a velcro strap.

1816
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 15: Really easy for kids and really comfortable.

1817
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 2: Tell me about the tech aspect of the band. What

1818
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,759
Speaker 2: does it do when it connects to the actual watch.

1819
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 19: So the device has NFC, which it uses for things

1820
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 19: like Have to Pay, which be launching in a couple

1821
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 19: of months, but the band itself does not have NFC.

1822
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,959
Speaker 19: It has another patented technology that we put in it

1823
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 19: that allows us that when you connect the band to

1824
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 19: the device, the device will recognize which band you've attached.

1825
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 19: So we have six collectible bands that we're launching and

1826
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 19: depending on which band that you plug in, the device

1827
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 19: will recognize that. It'll wake up your eg which is

1828
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 19: this virtual companion.

1829
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 15: You have almost a tamagatchi that you take care of

1830
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 15: on the device.

1831
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 19: So we really want it to feel like a gaming

1832
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,600
Speaker 19: cartridge that you can trade and you can collect.

1833
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 2: What ages do you think this watch is geared towards

1834
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 2: and also I'd like you to touch upon privacy because

1835
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,759
Speaker 2: this is going to be collecting a lot of data

1836
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 2: about minors, so how is Google handling that data.

1837
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 19: We believe that this device is about motivating activity and

1838
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 19: play and movement through gaming, and the sweet spot for

1839
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 19: this device is typically between the ages of around seven

1840
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 19: to eleven. That's really what we've thought of when we

1841
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 19: designed the device, because not only have we built the

1842
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 19: games and the activity and the movements inspired around that,

1843
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 19: that's also typically where kids are reaching a level of

1844
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 19: independence where they're starting to maybe spend more time on

1845
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 19: their own, go to sleepovers, go to camp, go pick

1846
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 19: the public transport to school, perhaps be.

1847
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 15: It home alone.

1848
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 19: But parents are looking for an alternative to that phone,

1849
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 19: and parents are waiting typically till twelve thirteen years of

1850
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 19: age before they buy that first phone. So as an

1851
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 19: alternative to the phone, this is an ideal product in

1852
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 19: that age rain that sweet spot of seven to eleven.

1853
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 19: Seven to twelve to your second question about privacy, and

1854
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 19: I'm really glad you asked that question because that has

1855
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 19: been a driving principle of this product from day one.

1856
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 19: So a couple of examples you can access location on

1857
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 19: this device. That location is only shared with the parent,

1858
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 19: and it is deleted from all of our systems within

1859
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 19: twenty four hours.

1860
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,440
Speaker 15: We never hold on to that data.

1861
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 19: Similarly, the activity data, and so we delete it from

1862
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 19: all of our systems and all of our servers within

1863
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 19: thirty five days. There are no first party apps on

1864
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 19: the device. There's no app store to download other apps.

1865
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 19: There are no ads on the device whatsoever. There never

1866
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 19: will be. None of the data is being used by

1867
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 19: Google four Ads or any other reason. It really, truly

1868
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 19: is a device that's been built with privacy and data

1869
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 19: minimization right at the forefront. We feel that this device

1870
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 19: is yeah, unlike anything out there, and certainly for parents

1871
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 19: who've got kids in that seven to eleven and looking

1872
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 19: for an alternative before they take the plunge in the

1873
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 19: first phone, we think this is an ideal device.

1874
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 2: All right.

1875
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 1: There you have it, a Neil summerwall of Google Fitbit.

1876
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 1: The one thing to know about the Fitbit ace LTE,

1877
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, is that it does not get

1878
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: assigned a traditional phone number. So if you're thinking that

1879
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 1: your kid will have what equates to sort of a

1880
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: smartphone on their wrist with a phone number.

1881
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 2: That is not the way this works.

1882
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: It is a app connected device, so when you make

1883
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: a call to the child or a message, it all

1884
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: goes through that fitbit app on your phone. And yeah,

1885
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: you can have up to twenty different contacts. They're all

1886
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to download that fitbit app app and be

1887
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 1: linked in and able to access and talk to this device.

1888
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: So that's just one thing to know. The fitbit ace

1889
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 1: LT is gonna be two hundred and thirty dollars. It's

1890
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: on sale on June fifth through Amazon also the Google Store,

1891
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: and then the service is ten bucks a month one

1892
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars for the year, but right now

1893
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 1: for the launch, they're doing a deal where it's sixty

1894
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 1: dollars for the first year. Once again, my kid is

1895
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: testing this out right now. So far, so good, as

1896
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: long as you're aware of the limitation of not an

1897
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: assigned phone number. All right, Coming up next, I'm gonna

1898
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: tell you where to find some games on YouTube, and

1899
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: if you want to watch TV for free, Filo has

1900
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 1: a new subscription free service plus your favorite segment, the

1901
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: Feedback coming up next right here.

1902
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 2: On rich on Tech.

1903
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. That song must mean

1904
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: it is time to close out the show. Two more

1905
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: stories before we get to the feedback segment. First off,

1906
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: you can now play games on YouTube. Yes, there are

1907
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: more than seventy five games now directly accessible through the

1908
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: YouTube app, no additional downloads necessary. There are popular games

1909
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: like Angry Birds, Showdown, Cut the Rope, Tomb of the Mask,

1910
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: Trivia Crack in My Favorite Words of Wonders. You can

1911
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: track your all time best scores, share your progress. You

1912
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,440
Speaker 1: can even bookmark your favorite games. These are being gradually

1913
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 1: rolled out to users over the coming months, but if

1914
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: you want to check to see if you have them,

1915
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: open up the YouTube app on your phone. So go

1916
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: to YouTube, open it up, and then you might need

1917
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 1: to pull down on the screen a little bit. But

1918
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: up in the upper left hand corner, there's something that

1919
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: looks like it's like a circle, looks like a navigation circle.

1920
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 1: You tap that and that will bring you to the menu.

1921
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,719
Speaker 1: Scroll down all the way to the bottom of the menu.

1922
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: Were almost to the bottom, and it'll say playables. You

1923
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,879
Speaker 1: tap that and you can see all the different games

1924
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: that are available for play. Kind of fun to have

1925
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: these games built right into your phone. So there you go.

1926
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: Seventy five games on YouTube to Play and Filo. This

1927
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 1: is a streaming service that has been available for a

1928
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: couple of years. Now they have a new level of

1929
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 1: service that is completely free, so you can watch over

1930
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 1: seventy free ad supported TV channels. They call this fast

1931
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 1: free ad supported Television. Yeah, like regular TV. Non subscribers

1932
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: can watch this for free and even record these channels

1933
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: without needing to subscribe to the Core package or even

1934
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 1: provide a credit card. The TV channels include reality TV, music, news,

1935
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: and classic television shows. It depends what you want to watch, right,

1936
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: so check out the channel lineup see if it appeals

1937
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 1: to you and you can get free access. You do

1938
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: not need a subscription or a credit card, so they

1939
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 1: say this is a great way for people who are

1940
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 1: not ready to subscribe or maybe they're taking a break

1941
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,480
Speaker 1: from paying for the Core package.

1942
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 15: Now.

1943
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find this on their homepage. They don't

1944
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: advertise this. This is you got to go to a

1945
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: certain website Filo dot com slash go slash free channels

1946
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: And if you go to the Filo dot com website,

1947
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see this on the homepage. But if

1948
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: you go all the way down to the bottom. There's

1949
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: a little link that says free channels. You tap that

1950
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: and that is your secret way of getting in where

1951
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: you can sign up for free. Of course, I'll link

1952
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: that up on the website. Rich on tech dot TV.

1953
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: All right, now on to the feedback segment. We got

1954
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,640
Speaker 1: a lot of comments about last week's show. One of

1955
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: the callers said that he had a record player in

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01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 1: his car, and we were curious if that was actually true,

1957
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: and it turns out, yes, there were record players in cars.

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01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: I still can't believe this. I still need to see this,

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01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 1: but I got a lot of emails about it. And

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01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Len in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania said, Hey, Rich, remember it's likely

1961
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: that the engineers who put a record player in cars

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01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: envisioned you playing records at a picnic or another outdoor

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01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: family event, not while you were actually driving down the road.

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01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: And many people sent me links to pictures and websites

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Speaker 1: about these record players. So, yes, thank you for all

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01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:33,440
Speaker 1: of the comments about the record players. I got them.

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01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: No more necessary. Ivan in Vermont says, hey, Rich, this

1968
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: is feedback about our EV interview. EV's are governed by physics,

1969
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 1: plain and simple. An eight hundred mile EV trip from

1970
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:50,799
Speaker 1: Vermont to Michigan adds hours to the trip. EV's escaping

1971
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: a hurricane along I seventy five in Florida, stuck in

1972
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: miles long traffic jams. Can't just plug in and go

1973
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: in minutes, buy one at your own peril. Meanwhile, having

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01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: a choice is a must, and the FEDS need to

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01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: keep their paws off the transportation industry. Thanks Ivan. It

1976
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 1: was a debate last weekend we drove to Palm Desert.

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01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 1: Of course, my wife does not like to drive the

1978
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: EV anywhere on a road trip because it adds time

1979
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 1: and it adds annoyance, and yes, it was annoying. We

1980
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: got to our friend's house. I was on empty and

1981
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: I didn't want to plug in at their house because

1982
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I think that that is you know, you don't know

1983
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: what their electricity is like there or how expensive it's

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01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 1: going to be.

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01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, it took me an hour.

1986
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 1: When everyone else was having drinks by the pool, I said, oh,

1987
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: I got to go drive the car to the charger,

1988
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 1: and it took an hour to go charge it up.

1989
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a consideration.

1990
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: Pete from San Luis Obispo, California says, Hey, Rich, I

1991
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 1: invite you to watch AI perversion on Prime.

1992
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 2: Is that something I can mention on the radio.

1993
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: It's truly fascinating how an AI powered virtual assistant can

1994
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: make and execute decisions based on one's personality. It is

1995
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 1: a French Subtitlepete. When I'm feeling like I want some

1996
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: AI perversion, I will watch that. Germo in Los Angeles says, hey, Rich,

1997
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: I have the T Mobile Unlimited Freedom Plan with taxes

1998
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 1: and fees included, which was carried over from Sprint. I

1999
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,799
Speaker 1: have two phones and other devices. I have not received

2000
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: any notification of a rate increase just yet. Also, you

2001
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: can get the fifty five plus Magenta plan, but it's

2002
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: not really advertised and it's not on the website. You

2003
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 1: have to call in as it's buried on the phone

2004
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:32,799
Speaker 1: plan options. Yeah, a lot of people emailed me about

2005
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 1: the T Mobile price increase and they are not happy,

2006
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 1: and they are looking at other options, and I say,

2007
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 1: look at those other options. There are many many alternatives

2008
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,839
Speaker 1: to the big three out there, mv and O's Visible

2009
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Mobile AX. We mentioned Tello, You've got Cricket, You've got Visible.

2010
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: You've got so many that you can subscribe to that

2011
01:44:55,600 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 1: have much cheaper plans with less data and no fee.

2012
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: Kenny and Rhode Island writes in Hey Rich, a while back,

2013
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned that Google would be making its editing tools

2014
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 1: Google Magic Editor, specifically available for free. I would believe

2015
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be available for iOS on May fifteenth. However,

2016
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't see it on my Apple fourteen Pro. I

2017
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: contacted Google. They had me delete the app, reboot my phone,

2018
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: reinstall it, but still no Magic Editor.

2019
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 2: Any ideas on why love the show? Thanks?

2020
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Yes, The reason is it's rolling out the two most

2021
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 1: hated words in the tech world. Rolling out means not

2022
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: everyone gets it at the same time, and it means

2023
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: if you're waiting for it, you're not gonna get it

2024
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: for a long time because they know you're waiting for it. No,

2025
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: they don't actually know that, but I'm just saying it.

2026
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 1: So I just got this on a non pixel device,

2027
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: so it is rolling out. It is happening. It showed

2028
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: up on my Samsung S twenty four Ultra, so it

2029
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 1: is a matter of time before it shows up in

2030
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 1: your iOS iPhone device. It is not shown up on

2031
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 1: my iPhone device. So I'm right there with you, Kenny,

2032
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: and yes, I understand why you want it because it's

2033
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: really cool. Jackie writes, I was scammed on social media

2034
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: Facebook over a vacuum mop that was supposedly through QVC.

2035
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 1: It looks so real, even with people demonstrating it, but

2036
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 1: when I called QVC about my order, I found out

2037
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: it was a scam. We live in a crazy world.

2038
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: It's very scary these days, especially since everything is done

2039
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: on computers and phones. I'm in my mid sixties and

2040
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,520
Speaker 1: all this technology is new and sometimes frustrating.

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01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Indeed, it can be. Ah, that's gonna do it.

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01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 1: For the feedback, thanks so much for listening to this

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Speaker 1: episode of the show. You can find everything I mentioned

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01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 1: on my website. Just go to Richontech dot tv. You

2045
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 1: can find me on social media. I am at rich

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01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,960
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Speaker 1: with valuable information, just like this show. You can sign

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Speaker 2: Next week.

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Speaker 1: I know I promised him for this week, but he's

2051
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna be next week. Drew Binski has gone to every

2052
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: country in the world. I'm gonna have my interview with him.

2053
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. There are so many

2054
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:58,879
Speaker 1: ways you can spend your time. I really do appreciate

2055
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 1: you spending it right here with me. Thanks to everyone

2056
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: who makes this show possible. Bobo Happy Birthday celebrating his

2057
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:12,440
Speaker 1: birthday this week, Kim Bill, Julie, and most importantly you.

2058
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 1: You're not pushing any buttons, you're not choosing the music.

2059
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 1: But guess what you tuned in. You listen to what

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01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: I have to say, and that means a lot to me.

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01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: My name is rich Demiro.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. I'm going to talk to

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Speaker 2: you real soon.