WEBVTT - Legally Brunette: Nancy Guthrie Is Missing

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, Welcome to a new episode of Legally Brunette.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be your host Emily Simpson and Shane Just Shane.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we are going to discuss breaking news that Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Guthrie is missing, story which I'm sure you've all heard

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<v Speaker 1>about unless you've been living under a rock, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically everywhere. So we would just want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>where we're at. There's been so much information that's been

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<v Speaker 1>coming out. Every time I look at what is my

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<v Speaker 1>new source, Instagram, Instagram. Every time I look at Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just a new update. And there was a press

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<v Speaker 1>conference today a couple hours ago. So I feel as

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<v Speaker 1>if we are bringing you the most recent developments. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the time we record this they'll probably they'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be more. We'll be talking about it again. So eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four year old Nancy Guthrie is the mother of Today

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<v Speaker 1>co host Savannah Guthrie, and she remains missing from her

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson area home. Authorities continue to treat the case as

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal investigation. Investigators recently returned to her property, conducting

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<v Speaker 1>renewed searches with canine units and combing nearby wooded areas,

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<v Speaker 1>indicating new or ongoing leads. Law enforcement says evidence at

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<v Speaker 1>the home suggests that she was taken against her will,

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<v Speaker 1>including biological DNA and blood near the entry and signs

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<v Speaker 1>of forced entry. No suspects or persons of interests have

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<v Speaker 1>been publicly identified, other than by what we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier by Ashley Banfield, but we'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit. Authorities are investigating reports of ransom notes,

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<v Speaker 1>some reportedly sent to media outlets. Savannah Guthrie and her

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<v Speaker 1>siblings released a public video appeal This was yesterday, asking

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<v Speaker 1>for proof of life and saying they are willing to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate if her mother is alive. I watched it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was actually heartbreaking. It was Samantha and her sister and brother.

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<v Speaker 1>There's three siblings, and you know what I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>is so difficult in today's age? Is proof of life?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean with AI.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what they said in their video.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and I and I But when they said that,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that, how do I mean, at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in time, how do you have proof of life? Because

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<v Speaker 1>you can manipulate voices. You could say she's on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and it could be her voice.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, the old days used to be held up

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<v Speaker 2>a newspaper and took a picture with it. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is the date. I'm alive on this day, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But now, what are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you there are.

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<v Speaker 2>The time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Like, what in today's age, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>as of this moment, what could you do to prove

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<v Speaker 1>proof of life? Because I feel like everything could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Manipulated in or like a real time conversation, It.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have to be a real time FaceTime conversation where

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<v Speaker 1>you were asking, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>You could ask him a question that only that person

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<v Speaker 2>would know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's what you would do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I still feel like you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>have more than that because maybe these I don't know you, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like what's your favorite song? And they'll be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I don't know what's your favorite? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'd be like, I don't know, is that

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<v Speaker 2>her favorite song? Yeah? I think it's her hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>So authorities are investigating reports of ransom notes. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that talked about proof of life, and the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>is assisting and federal resources have been offered official stress

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<v Speaker 1>urgency because Nancy got three requires daily medication, increasing concern

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<v Speaker 1>for her health and safety. Yeah, she's eighty four, and

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<v Speaker 1>we know that she has a pacemaker because that was

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<v Speaker 1>reported that you know, her pacemaker disconnected from her phone or.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely from being removed further away from her watch, her

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<v Speaker 2>phone or whatever it was, whatever device, and so it

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<v Speaker 2>lost contact, right and at almost two in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they released they did a press conference today, also

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<v Speaker 1>released a timeline. I looked at the timeline several times

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<v Speaker 1>because it's pretty specific, and I realized how much of

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<v Speaker 1>a digital age we live in that even her opening

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<v Speaker 1>the garage door and closing it like that was time

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<v Speaker 1>standing and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Her uber right, So it has drop off times, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know on January thirty first, at five thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two pm, Nancy travels to a local family member's home.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that she had dinner with family that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Then at nine forty eight pm that night, this is

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<v Speaker 1>still in January thirty first, the family drops Nancy off

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<v Speaker 1>at home and the garage door opens. So there's some

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<v Speaker 1>digital footprint of the garage door opening. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>find that? Can you find that on your garage door?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we have an electric garage door.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was her what time she got dropped off,

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<v Speaker 2>and what time she closed the garage door.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nine fifty But how do you how do

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<v Speaker 1>they know that? I'm saying they know specifically what time

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<v Speaker 1>the garage door opened and what time it closed. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, does the garage.

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<v Speaker 2>R connected her phone? You know? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So then at nine to fifty pm the garage door closes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the following morning, this is now February first, at

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<v Speaker 1>one seven am, a doorbell camera disconnects. That's scary. So

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<v Speaker 1>what that's a ring? Right? A ring camera?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it rings a brand, but it's a doorbell camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And it disconnects. Then at two twelve am, software

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<v Speaker 1>detects a person on camera. However, there's no video available.

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<v Speaker 2>To the Emotion subscription. IT'SID motion detected, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>preserve the video because they didn't they didn't subscribe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're going to come back to that because I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to explain that. And then at two twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight am, the pacemaker app shows a disconnect from her phone,

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<v Speaker 1>which you were saying. It's a disconnect at two twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight because she's outside the realm of the bluetooth being

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<v Speaker 1>able to pick it up right, so she's probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Sad thinking and if she was killed right then and there,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore her heart's not beating, I'm guessing the pacemaker

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<v Speaker 2>still transmits some type of dat.

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<v Speaker 1>Some type of information, but it's not transmitting any information, So.

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<v Speaker 2>She's outside not reaching the receiving end, yeah, like the

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<v Speaker 2>phone or watch or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Then at eleven fifty six am, the family checks on Nancy.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's because she was supposed to be at

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<v Speaker 1>church that morning and she didn't show up for church,

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<v Speaker 1>so then the family was they someone contacted the family

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<v Speaker 1>and said, you know, Nancy wasn't at church, and then

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<v Speaker 1>at twelve oh three pm they called nine to one one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at twelve fifteen that's when the police arrive.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the timeline. Now as far as the subscription, See,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I don't understand because I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>techie person at all, and you were just making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of me a minute ago saying that I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how to turn on a computer, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>an exaggeration. I literally don't know how to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>technical at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I just agree because you know anything about Instagram. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I never said, hey, here's a shopping app. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you help me install it and set it? Note you've

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<v Speaker 2>never had a problem buying anything at a digital age,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can learn. You choose not to.

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<v Speaker 1>I choose not to. Shane, is the IT department our

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<v Speaker 1>home And so as far as there being no subscription,

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<v Speaker 1>that means that the ring or whatever type of doorbell

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<v Speaker 1>she has, it's just on a loop and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>saving it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just see live video. It's like a peephole.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see so right now you could log in

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<v Speaker 2>and see what's at your front door. But it's not

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<v Speaker 2>preserving it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does that mean when it says it was disabled?

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<v Speaker 1>What did someone do?

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<v Speaker 2>They just they it's still connected to Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But my question is for someone whoever this is

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<v Speaker 1>this person of interests or whoever abducted her to disable it?

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<v Speaker 1>They are they inside the house at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>The doorbell is on the outside of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what my question is. How do they how are

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<v Speaker 1>they disabling it?

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<v Speaker 2>They yank it off the wall and they they smash it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, that's oh, so it wasn't like some.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think they do? They tapped in with

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<v Speaker 2>some laptop and they were like, yes, sitting there like

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<v Speaker 2>mission and bunds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I pictured.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they yanked it off the doorframe and then they

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<v Speaker 2>took it with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying they just removed it and then okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well okay, but the takeaway from this is

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<v Speaker 1>that you should have a subscription if.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to up your safety. She had a subscription.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have saved whatever video was captured. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they would have been on it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they came in from the back door and

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<v Speaker 2>then went to the front door without getting in front

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<v Speaker 2>of the camera and yanked it. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it would have shown something something other than just motion

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<v Speaker 2>detected and then disabled. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So then on Monday, February second, authorities officially upgrade the

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<v Speaker 1>case to a criminal investigation. The sheriff says evidence indicates

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<v Speaker 1>she did not leave voluntarily, and the FBI joins the case.

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<v Speaker 1>We do know that there was blood found on the

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<v Speaker 1>front porch.

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<v Speaker 2>Like blood drops.

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<v Speaker 1>It blood drops. I saw a photo of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a large amount of blood, not enough for you

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<v Speaker 1>to say death, she's deceased. It was like dribbles of blood.

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<v Speaker 1>But then my question is what type of enjury occurred

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<v Speaker 1>that would make someone bleed, but not with an intent

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<v Speaker 1>to kill.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not that far fetched.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just so sadistic. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>someone just broke into this woman's.

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<v Speaker 2>Home, smacker on the head, and then they pull her out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it could have been anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, on Tuesday, February third, the officials confirmed that the

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<v Speaker 1>DNA evidence was collected from inside the home and have

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed that her blood was found near the front door

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Officials are now saying that there's been no

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<v Speaker 1>proof of life, and reports of a possible ransom note

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<v Speaker 1>start to emerge. Now that ransom note is just throwing

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<v Speaker 1>me for a loop because there's multiple ransom notes. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as what I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I said the end of the day, I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>just milking the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so something, let's talk about the ransom notes. So

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ was the first to reveal details about a ransom note.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators are saying this is the only note they're taking seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't make sense to me because there was

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<v Speaker 1>also another ransom note that came into a Tucson news

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<v Speaker 1>news station, and I saw them talking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>giving a report on it. And that ransom note has

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<v Speaker 1>corroborating evidence in it that talks specifically about what the

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<v Speaker 1>inside of the house looks like and about what Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing that evening. So I don't know, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying the only note, ransom note they're taking seriously is

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<v Speaker 1>such an MC one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So TMZ reported that the note, which was sent to

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<v Speaker 1>them Tuesday morning, demands a specific and very substantial amount

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin. The amount is in the millions, and the

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<v Speaker 1>note demands the cryptocurrency be sent to a specific bitcoin address.

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ has verified that the bitcoin address is real. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know? Can you? How can you have

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<v Speaker 1>an anonymous bitcoin address? And then how do you withdraw

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<v Speaker 1>from it? I'm this all this technology stuff is just

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<v Speaker 1>boggling my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe these, maybe both ransom notes are real.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's like the criminals are just goofballs and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what they're doing. They're like, wait, you sin

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<v Speaker 2>a ransom? No I sent a ransom. No, Wait who

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<v Speaker 2>did you send yours? To? Wait? How much are you

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<v Speaker 2>asking for That's what it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it to TMZ.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you say, it's like the three stooges, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would hope for Nancy's sake that you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just some dumb, dumb juices that abducted her,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully she's okay again. TMC has verified the bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>address is real. I don't even understand what bitcoin is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will tell you I own some bitcoin. I

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<v Speaker 1>bought some just because I just felt like it, because

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like the thing to do, and it's actually increased.

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<v Speaker 1>I now have more bitcoin than I used to have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is or how What is what is money? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand that content either, because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>paper money isn't really money. It has to be backed

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<v Speaker 1>by gold, right, So what is bitcoin?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a digital currency.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I don't understand bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need it understanding. I understand that she is missing,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and there's a ransom note and they want

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<v Speaker 2>something for her.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a deadline connected to the alleged ransom, and

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<v Speaker 1>an element of or else the alleged ransom note. Else

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That means they don't have a plan. There's that that

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<v Speaker 2>almost sounds like a fake ransom note because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if they literally said or else,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're just not giving away actual what the verbiage

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<v Speaker 1>actually is. They're just summarizing it was a large amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money. Well, you know, they're not doing that publicly

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<v Speaker 1>because they want to be able to you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to give too much information about the ransom note,

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<v Speaker 1>the alleged I like how they called alleged ransom note

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<v Speaker 1>because we're not talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About like validity. Is alleged r note exists?

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<v Speaker 1>So are we saying TMZ?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe it much from TMZ really.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so the alleged ransom note also describes another item

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<v Speaker 1>the sender says was damaged at her Tucson area at home. See,

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<v Speaker 1>now that's that's corroborating if they talk about some that

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<v Speaker 1>was damaged when they abducted her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unless it's an inside job.

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<v Speaker 1>What is inside job?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what if it's like a police officer it was

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<v Speaker 2>like in on it and he's like, oh sweet, I

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<v Speaker 2>know this is broken. I know she was wearing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to send a ransom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're saying like someone involved in the investigation is

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<v Speaker 1>making ransom notes on the side, trying to make some

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get some bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the housekeeper grounds keeper. I don't know they forwarded

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<v Speaker 2>for they should, They should do a little combing of

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<v Speaker 2>the who'sn't working in the area and see if anyone's

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<v Speaker 2>from the Boston PD. Yes, because they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Shady, right, they forwarded the alleged ransom demand to the

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<v Speaker 1>Pima County Sheriff. Then now we Pema County, Pema County,

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<v Speaker 1>p I m A Pema. On Wednesday, February fourth, CNN

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<v Speaker 1>came out with more reports on the note as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and anchor Mary Coleman appeared on CNN's Aaron Burnett out

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<v Speaker 1>Front to reveal information about the alleged ransom note the

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<v Speaker 1>station received. See this is where I question, is this

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<v Speaker 1>the same ransom note that also went to TMZ or

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<v Speaker 1>is this a different ransom note?

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<v Speaker 2>This is where I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Coleman said, she is a news anchor that works

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<v Speaker 1>at this news station that received a ransom note. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a few things that we can share as far

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<v Speaker 1>as what the contents were, a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 1>information that only someone who is holding her for ransom

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<v Speaker 1>would know, some very sensitive information and things that people

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<v Speaker 1>who were there when she was taken captive would know. See.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that interesting because in the press conference the

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<v Speaker 1>police said that they only are taking the ransom note

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<v Speaker 1>from that the TMZ ransom note is the only one

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking. Seriously. However, this news anchor is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the ransom note that the news station received and saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it has corroborating would.

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<v Speaker 2>Make you think that's two different notes, two.

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<v Speaker 1>Different notes, or why are the police not.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying a photocopy of the other?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, she continued, So those are things that

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<v Speaker 1>are concerning. We immediately sent that information over to the

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff's to apartment. Additionally, Coleman said a detective asked for

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<v Speaker 1>more information about an IP address for the email. She

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<v Speaker 1>also confirmed that the ransom letter included a dollar amount

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a deadline and other specifics that only

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<v Speaker 1>Guthrie's abductor might know. So that definitely raised some red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>So again there's my question, are.

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<v Speaker 2>We talking by email?

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<v Speaker 1>It was by email?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So it wasn't like the where they cut up

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<v Speaker 2>the little magazine letters. Now that's old school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's old school. They don't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They won cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they went bitcoin and they sent emails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Also on Wednesday, February fourth, investigators returned to Nancy's home

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<v Speaker 1>with K nine units and an online prayer vigil for

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy was held. So here we are currently, where are

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<v Speaker 1>we at? Savannah Guthrie? This is the daughter has issued

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<v Speaker 1>a public plea for the safe return of her mother.

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<v Speaker 1>In a video released with her siblings, the family address

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<v Speaker 1>reports of potential ransom messages, asking anyone involved to confirm

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<v Speaker 1>that Nancy Guthrie is alive, and stating we are ready

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<v Speaker 1>to listen, you know. That says we're ready to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 1>That says we got your ransom letters. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>things that are concerning in them. Is what I would

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<v Speaker 1>take away from that that there's information that seems specific

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<v Speaker 1>and knowledgeable only to someone that would have been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Savannah Guthrie has said that her mother suffers from chronic

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<v Speaker 1>pain and depends on daily prescription medication, heightening fears about

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<v Speaker 1>the risk that she faces while she is missing. P

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<v Speaker 1>MC County's Sheriff Chris Nanos, held a press conference earlier

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<v Speaker 1>today to share the latest information. During the news conference,

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<v Speaker 1>Heath Jenkie, who is the FBI Phoenix's Special Agent in charge,

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed that one arrest was made regarding an impostor ransom note.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's my question. If one is an impostor, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to assume the one that went to the police

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<v Speaker 1>station is possibly the.

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<v Speaker 2>I read that both were sent to the police station,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's probably a good protocol. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think right now, I think they're not They're purposely not

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<v Speaker 2>providing all the information publicly, like that's not their concern,

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<v Speaker 2>and plus THEYD to verify things. What if these two

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<v Speaker 2>ransom notes were written by people that are connected. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think they're being very careful in what

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<v Speaker 2>they're allowing the public to know. And that's why we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know everything right now about these two ransom notes,

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<v Speaker 2>right Like I so, I think your questions are valid.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they the same, are they different? Blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think what you said is all we know

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's very difficult to connect all the dots right

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<v Speaker 1>now because they are giving a very limited amount of information,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, So it's like we have these conclusions.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a ransom note. TMZ got a ransom note, this

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<v Speaker 1>news station got a ransom note, but it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what was said, which one is the imposter,

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<v Speaker 1>which one is.

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<v Speaker 2>They're still looking for suspects, so even if they think, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this one's fake, but maybe they don't want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>people because maybe they wanted to weed out more people suspects.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So the special Agent in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>this case confirmed that one arrest was made regarding an

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<v Speaker 1>impostor ransom note. The FBI is now offering a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars award for information that will help find Nancy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that was they found. If they arrested someone, that means

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<v Speaker 1>they figured out that the note was an impostor, figured

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<v Speaker 1>out who sent it, found the person, and arrested them.

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<v Speaker 1>That was quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's because it's digital. Someone just typed up a

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<v Speaker 2>note and dropped it off at the station, news station

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<v Speaker 2>and police station. The old school was like, where did

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<v Speaker 2>this paper come from? Okay? But then what typewriter was used?

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<v Speaker 2>Were the typewriter?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? But here's my question. If that person was so

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<v Speaker 1>easily found. Then the person who sent the ransom note

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<v Speaker 1>to TMZ the one that they're saying is legitimate that

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking seriously. They haven't arrested anyone connected with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That means because the fake one is by some sloppy

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<v Speaker 2>meth head trying to get a few bucks. He's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get some bed. The one is a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more thought out.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the actual abductor, is what we would conclude at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, the FBI agent said, in regards to the

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<v Speaker 1>ransom note, the one that went to the media is

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<v Speaker 1>the one we're currently investigating and working on. The impostor

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<v Speaker 1>that I talked about, where an arrest was made early

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, that there will be more information. We believe

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<v Speaker 1>there is no evidence to connect this to Nancy's case.

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<v Speaker 1>It was someone that was trying to profit from it,

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<v Speaker 1>a total impostor. As the search moves into its fifth day,

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<v Speaker 1>concern for Guthrie's health continues to intensify. The Pima County

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff reiterated at the press conference that there are no

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<v Speaker 1>suspects and no persons of interest at this time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what they said publicly on the record. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If you listen to Ashley Banfield, she

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<v Speaker 1>did do. She came out publicly and said that the

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<v Speaker 1>son in law was a person of interest, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she's recanted that at all, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That she's basing on what she's coming across. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not an officially announced anything, right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not officially announced by the police. It's officially

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<v Speaker 1>announced by Ashley Banfield. But I'm saying she's well connected

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<v Speaker 1>in the area of crime, true crime, cops, attorneys, the whole,

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.760
<v Speaker 1>all the inside information. So the fact that she came

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<v Speaker 1>forward and said that, I don't know, we shall see.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she's also the one that said it's camera's not camera?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, when you put an S on the end of

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<v Speaker 2>a noun, it's plural.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I understand, but I don't know what you're What

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<v Speaker 1>is that meaning?

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<v Speaker 2>More than one camera was taken from the property and disabled.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she says. Her source said, okay, And she

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<v Speaker 2>also says that her source, meaning it's not public, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just her right. But the back door was left open

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.439
<v Speaker 2>right when they arrived, meaning there was a break in

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.719
<v Speaker 2>on one door, presumably the front door and then the

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>back door was left open and there's blood on the

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 2>front door or the front area, the front porch, and

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't she didn't hear whether there was or was

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<v Speaker 2>not blood elsewhere or something like that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. Time will tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we will stay connected very closely to the story,

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<v Speaker 1>and we really pray and hope that that Nancy is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel all wold.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been I mean realistically it's been five days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and her medication they say it is crucial daily.

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.440
<v Speaker 1>And also if she was connected to age.

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<v Speaker 2>And pacemaker, and I've seen pictures of her, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>physically fit to you know, be roughed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, we will continue to follow the story and

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<v Speaker 1>let you know what comes up next on this. So

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening, guys, We appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully, we just had one more update and they caught him, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that found her.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be we're done, amazing. We would hope, we

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<v Speaker 1>would hope and pray for a happy ending that they

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who this is, they find Nancy and they

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<v Speaker 1>bring her home safely and she recovers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we'll hope for, and they throw them in

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<v Speaker 2>a jail cell to rock.

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