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Speaker 1: this team has had eighty different lineup combinations this year.

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Speaker 1: You're like, damn, how have they done so many different

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've been a part of a couple of teams like

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I've been a part of a couple though.

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Speaker 2: It's a good way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get a chance to lead?

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Speaker 4: You get one?

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Speaker 3: Thought one game? Every single one. I've been one through nine.

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Speaker 4: I would honestly say I think I probably had two.

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Speaker 4: And obviously the part in the middle of the order

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Scott, I'm going to ask you this, but

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Speaker 1: Is this a trick question?

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Speaker 4: No, just what's your answer?

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Speaker 2: Who would be batting front? Yeah, if you're in front

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the front behind in front of you before you.

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Speaker 3: You're thinking about it, KP. Who's hitting in front of

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Speaker 4: Everyone?

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Speaker 3: Everybody. It's just the fact you go to the score.

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Speaker 3: It's just a baseball lingo thing. You go to score

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Speaker 3: That's all I knew. You would take it literal and

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Speaker 1: I was like, is there some hidden message in here?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, unless unless you play it or you know the lingo.

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Speaker 1: It's everybody, baby.

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Speaker 4: I spent I spent a couple of I wouldn't say years,

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Speaker 4: We'un out. We'd run the you know, before they would

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Speaker 4: So who's in front of you. Buddy, that's good.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Well, this combination has never happened before,

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Speaker 1: so that's how it came about. We got a little

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Speaker 1: Okay. Well, of course we're going to start with a

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Speaker 1: I said it, But from now on after that, I'm

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Speaker 1: calling him what everyone calls him, and that's the password.

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Speaker 1: Red Sox fans know him well. He's barely touched the

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Speaker 1: Very physical moves over to the Pittsburgh Pirates along with

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Speaker 1: Red Sox, very physical, big pitcher KP. Here's the whole

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Speaker 1: trade breakdown, and I'll start with you. Because of all

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Speaker 1: So does this track with what you had them doing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you hit it perfectly because I'm

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Speaker 3: But it's not the big trade. It's the pirates. They

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Speaker 1: Well, if you can spell his first name, then you

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Speaker 1: win a prize. Jost Y n XO N I'm with you, here,

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Speaker 1: Todd Father. The Pirates are in like I don't want

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Speaker 1: So that's why it's interesting to me too. Garcia is young.

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Speaker 1: because he had Tommy John surgery. Comes back this past

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Speaker 5: Big deal went down yesterday between the Red Sox and

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Speaker 1: Five player trade.

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Speaker 5: Johann Oviedo, a major league pitcher that just returned from

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Speaker 5: The other play going to the Red Sox, Tyler Samonego

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Speaker 5: He's a left hander with big stuff. Replaces some of

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Speaker 1: I think he's the only guy that's had a Jeopardy question.

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Speaker 5: Big power bat, there's good bat to all skills there.

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Speaker 5: Where he gets in trouble is really over zealous swing decisions,

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Speaker 1: Offense in baseball this past season, and also for Boston,

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Speaker 1: Todd Father, they have too many outfielders. We've heard Jaron

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Speaker 3: And that makes sense, like when you have a guy

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Speaker 3: what are you supposed to do with them? Oh, let's

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Speaker 3: Why not trade a guy to get you know, a

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Speaker 3: a great, great job by them to figure this out.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll talk more with somebody down the road

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Speaker 3: to how these trades get going and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But for me, don't wait. You saw what the Orioles did.

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Speaker 1: There great point also by Todd Father on how you

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Speaker 1: His name's Hazus Travioso. Five to eleven, one hundred and

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Speaker 5: And I think the guy that drew the most interest yesterday,

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Speaker 1: FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal with the Inside Scoop, I

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Speaker 1: like this interesting trade, Ken, what are your thoughts? I

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Speaker 6: It was definitely an interesting trade, and I had heard

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: So it was a bit surprising to a lot of people.

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Speaker 6: I think that the Red Sox went and got another

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Speaker 6: But even with the young pitching that they have, even

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Speaker 4: He Ken Let's stay on the topic of the Pirates.

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Speaker 4: Right before Thanksgiving, we got to pick a team and

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Speaker 4: Is this the type of moves you kind of expect

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Speaker 6: Actually, Kevin, those names are a little bit below where

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Speaker 6: They ultimately might end up with guys like that. I

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Speaker 6: But guys like Ryan O'Hearn, Jorge Polanco, Okamudo from Japan,

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Speaker 6: So while those names you have there might ultimately be

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Speaker 3: We're just talking about Boston and how they picked up Olviedo.

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Speaker 6: Well, Todd, I didn't think they were going to get

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, one more on this because fans take everything

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Speaker 6: And I like Sonny Gray.

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Speaker 1: Buddy's thirty six.

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Speaker 6: to do it. He's more of a risk along those lines.

436
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Speaker 6: So I get where the fans are coming from, but

437
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 6: you have to wait and see the entire picture too,

438
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 6: because if in the end they end up and I'm

439
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 6: just throwing this out there, this is hypothetical, it's speculation,

440
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 6: But if in the end they end up with Sunny

441
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 6: Gray Oviedo and two bats, I don't know who those

442
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 6: bats would be. With two bats, that's a pretty good offseason,

443
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 6: it would seem to me. And if they need more

444
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 6: starting pitching come to deadline, they can go get it.

445
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 6: Then remember the kids that they have came up last

446
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 6: year and performed pretty well. You can't expect him to

447
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 6: be two hundred inning guys in twenty twenty six, but

448
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 6: there's definitely some promise there, and with Sandoval coming back,

449
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 6: who knows what he might provide. So I kind of

450
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 6: like where they are right now, and I want to

451
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 6: see more, obviously, but that's true of any team at

452
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Speaker 6: this stage.

453
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Speaker 3: Let's stay in the al least Toronto Blue Jays KP

454
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: squad Kyle Tucker just visited the Florida facility. There, Okay,

455
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: we got something going on here. Now my problem, not

456
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: my problem. My situation is here. You talk about him

457
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: maybe going to the Blue Jays. Does that make it

458
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 3: hard for Bobaschett to come back or do you see

459
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: both of them maybe sticking together if eventually this does

460
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Speaker 3: go through.

461
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Speaker 6: Todd, I don't know, And it certainly seems from the

462
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Speaker 6: outside that it would be tough to do both those guys, right,

463
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 6: Tucker at three point fifty to four hundred million, Bashdd

464
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 6: at one hundred and fifty to two hundred million, and

465
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Speaker 6: I might be low. They might be doing even better

466
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 6: than that. Ultimately, that would seem to be a lot,

467
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 6: for sure, when you've already signed Dylan Ceases to a

468
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Speaker 6: deal that's valued at about one hundred and eighty five

469
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Speaker 6: in present day money. But the Toronto Blue Jays don't

470
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 6: seem to be hesitating this offseason, So I don't know

471
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Speaker 6: that we can rule anything out. And the other thing

472
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Speaker 6: that's interesting here to me, Todd, and maybe you can

473
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 6: talk about this. We've seen this with the Dodgers.

474
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Speaker 1: Great players like to play with great players.

475
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Speaker 6: And we haven't seen this kind of NBA thing happen

476
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 6: much in baseball, but it has happened to an extent

477
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 6: with the Dodgers, with Yamamoto joining Otani and then Sasaki

478
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 6: doing the same. I wonder if maybe that is going

479
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 6: to be a situation in Toronto where all of a sudden,

480
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Speaker 6: after all those years of failing to get free agents,

481
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 6: players say, you know what, let's go there and win.

482
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Speaker 1: They're close. Let's make it happen.

483
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Speaker 6: And in that case, if Tucker and Bashett, for instance,

484
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Speaker 6: are willing to be creative in their deals, deferrals, whatever

485
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 6: the case might be, then maybe it happens. I don't

486
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Speaker 6: know that you can rule it out love it.

487
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Speaker 4: As we approach the Winter meetings here, can you kind

488
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Speaker 4: of just take me through like a day to day

489
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Speaker 4: which you go through at the Winter Meetings. I attended

490
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Speaker 4: my first one last year and I kind of just

491
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 4: walked around. It felt like kind of like a high

492
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: school reunion. Got to see a lot of people. What's

493
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: your kind of day to day? Like you get invited

494
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Speaker 4: into GM suites to talk to them? Are you constantly

495
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: on the phone? Are you just walking around running into people.

496
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Speaker 4: I'm always curious to know what goes on.

497
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Speaker 2: Kevin.

498
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Speaker 6: I wish I was invited into GM suites. That does

499
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Speaker 6: not happen. And the Winter Meetings have changed over the years,

500
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Speaker 6: They've become less of a situation where you're seeing people

501
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Speaker 6: in the lobby and trying to talk to people that way.

502
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Speaker 6: Pretty much everyone now, and I'm talking about the gms

503
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Speaker 6: and even the agents. They stay in their suites, maybe

504
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 6: they visit each other, they don't come out, we don't

505
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Speaker 6: see them, So it's more of a texting phone kind

506
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 6: of situation than it once was. I used to I

507
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 6: don't know how many steps. We didn't have step counters

508
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Speaker 6: back then, but I'm sure I was putting on a

509
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Speaker 6: lot of steps back in the day when the lobby

510
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 6: was where it was at. It's really no longer that

511
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 6: way as far as the day is concerned. It kind

512
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 6: of starts early and ends late, and sometimes it doesn't

513
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Speaker 6: end at all. And yeah, I'm just constantly trying to

514
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Speaker 6: find out what's going on.

515
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Speaker 2: It's basically it.

516
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Speaker 6: And then when things do happen, or even before things happen,

517
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 6: I'm writing constantly as well. So it's it's really busy,

518
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 6: to say the least.

519
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: He's definitely busy over there.

520
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: I got off the elevator and he didn't even know

521
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: who I was in Vegas.

522
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: But that's that's a story for a different time.

523
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: I heard about it.

524
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: You were locked in.

525
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 6: I was locked in and I did not recognize you.

526
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 6: I was talking to somebody was pretty high up.

527
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Speaker 3: We're on like the fortieth We're on the fortieth floor, man,

528
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: I told our producering. We were laughing, so it was

529
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Speaker 3: fun time, Like, yo, what's up big dog? You're like,

530
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm on the phone. Oh okay. So I just kept going.

531
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, Ken forgets me, It's okay,

532
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: all good.

533
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Speaker 6: I'm not forgetting you, man.

534
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Speaker 2: I was just.

535
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Speaker 1: I know, have you heard your with the Jersey accent?

536
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: He would have been like, oh.

537
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: Hey, but when you're hey, when you're working, sometimes you

538
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 3: got to get the job done. My last question for

539
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 3: you is my old team Cincinnati. You know that sometimes

540
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: they make some moves, sometimes they don't. They've been in

541
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: talks with some people. How about a guy like Kyle

542
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: schwarber Man. Have you heard anything with them with the

543
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: Reds and anything ink to them.

544
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 6: I have heard that and I've written about it too.

545
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 6: They're trying with him now. In the end it would

546
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 6: seem they're going to get outbid, and some people at

547
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 6: that point might say, see it was never real. It

548
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 6: is real as far as their interest, and it is

549
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 6: real in terms of he's a guy from Middletown, Ohio,

550
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 6: about an half hour north of Cincinnati, and he seems

551
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Speaker 6: to be interested in them as well. But can the

552
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 6: Reds outbid the Phillies or whoever else might be on

553
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 6: Kyle Schwarber. That kind of remains to be seen. Now,

554
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 6: what's the scenario for him to sign with Cincinnati. It

555
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 6: would probably be this willing to take less money or deferrals,

556
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 6: whatever the case might be, and willing to join a

557
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 6: team that sees him as a guy who could help

558
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 6: them grow, help their young players, become a great influence

559
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 6: on them, and at the same time want to play

560
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 6: for Terry Francona. These are all appealing things to Shorebrough,

561
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 6: I'm sure, but this is also his last chance at

562
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 6: a major payday most likely, and he's gonna want to

563
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 6: cash out, which, of course you would understand. So I

564
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 6: don't see it happening. But I do believe, not believe,

565
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 6: I know the Reds actually want to make this happen.

566
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 6: It's just a question in the end of whether they

567
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 6: can make it go their way.

568
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: Last two year. One fan question Di Alvarez wants to

569
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Speaker 1: know what the Dodgers can get for a Taoscar Hernandez

570
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Speaker 1: trade in return. If that does end up happening. We

571
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Speaker 1: had a good debate yesterday on the show. Kratz was

572
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: like a little or on the lower side because I

573
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: guess he didn't have as gonna be a year offensively

574
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: and definitely not a good year defensively. But is this

575
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: about that for the Dodgers or is it I mean,

576
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: of course you want to that's something for him, but

577
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: is it also about getting all of the puzzle pieces

578
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: back in a better position. I know it sounds weird

579
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: because Tao's great, but they could improve a lot if

580
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: they're able to fill that spot.

581
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 6: It's a really good question. Now they're looking for an

582
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 6: outfielder right now, d so that aspect of it complicates things.

583
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 6: You trade ta Oscar, you need two outfielders now, not

584
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 6: impossible to get two outfielders. The Dodgers certainly could do it,

585
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 6: but it's a question more of yes, making the pieces

586
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 6: fit together. He's not going to be able to DH

587
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 6: for them, right He's declined in the outfield and they

588
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 6: have a DH. His name is shoe Aotani, not going anywhere,

589
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 6: so what would they want back? The Dodgers are always

590
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 6: interesting because they'll take arms that maybe aren't succeeding elsewhere

591
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 6: and turn them into something. I'm not sure what they

592
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 6: would desire there. They would be clearing some money, and

593
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 6: not that it ever seems to matter to the Dodgers.

594
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 6: I'm sure that would be appealing to them, but it

595
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 6: seems to me, Scott, that it would be more to

596
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 6: increase their flexibility with their roster and open up some

597
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 6: things for them, maybe with some better defenders. Again, I

598
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 6: don't know that I expect this to happen, but as

599
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 6: I reported, his name has come up in conversations and

600
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 6: there is a certain logic to moving him because this

601
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 6: is an older position player club. They have the oldest

602
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 6: position player team in the major leagues, or at least

603
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: they did last year, so you always want to shake

604
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 6: it up a little bit. I think, even if you're

605
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 6: a two time defending World Series champion, to keep things

606
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 6: from growing stale, trading ta Oscar would be one way.

607
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: To do that.

608
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's the best way, but it

609
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 6: would be one way.

610
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: But I'm Jim Futures twenty twenty six l MVP odds

611
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: are up already and Tod Father, your boy judge is

612
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: already a plus three hundred like that is impressive to

613
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: be at that number already. Remember after about a week

614
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: or two of the season, I think he was already

615
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: at even money range, where that is just crazy talk.

616
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: But he's at plus three hundred, Bobby Wits at plus

617
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: five hundred, cow Riley's at plus seven hundred. Isn't that insane, dude,

618
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: to be that highly regarded? It makes you think, Okay,

619
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: for as much as we talk about show Hey and

620
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: all that, we got to make sure we keep talking

621
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: about Judge on the other side and how he's a legend.

622
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: Let's do this.

623
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Speaker 3: You know, Scotty, you got money, you got money, Kip,

624
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: let's all just put twenty thousand together on this plus

625
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: three hundred and we can take them a nice boatloaded cash.

626
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: No, honestly, I'm not surprised.

627
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 1: You can triple up.

628
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: You can triple up, and then we go to Sissler

629
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: and then we go have some fun after.

630
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: But can we just double down and take show Hey too,

631
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: and really a lot of money?

632
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

633
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: Show he's even money probably I don't know yet, but yeah, dude,

634
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: it's incredible, It's incredible. This It just goes to show

635
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: you the amount of goodness he has, how good he is.

636
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: He is just an incredible human being when it comes

637
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: to the game of baseball on and off the field.

638
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: He can hit the baseball better than pretty much everybody,

639
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: and he knows how to do it even when he's slumping,

640
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: even when he's injured. He was off for a while,

641
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: he came back and still won the MVP. That's very

642
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: hard to do. So going to show you the big

643
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: numbers he has and he not missing pitches that he's getting.

644
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: You know, two years ago he was swinging outside his

645
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: own this year. I mean, I would love to see

646
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: his swing against balls out of his own. But it

647
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: seemed like every time he got up there, something good

648
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: would happen.

649
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: I can't let certain things go. So let's just play

650
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 4: some hypothetical real quick. Aaron Judge decides he doesn't want

651
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: to play baseball anymore. Is he a Hall of Famer?

652
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: And does his number get retired in Yankee Stadium?

653
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Speaker 1: Here we go again, right now, right now?

654
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Speaker 4: He said, you know what I've done enough, I've won

655
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: three You know, I don't want to play anymore? Like

656
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 4: is he worthy of the Hall of Fame? Because he

657
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: dominated a period of time. I mean, what's the seven

658
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: eight years in he's gonna be maybe longer at this.

659
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Point, probably longer. Probably my guess is nine, but I'll

660
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: double check it. Right now.

661
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: I think he debuted in two thousand and sixteen, if

662
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, and I was twenty seventeen is its

663
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: first full season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, which makes it nine years, right, I mean tend

665
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: to one to count sixteen, But nine.

666
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: Years seventeen he won the Rookie the home run Most

667
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: home runs by a rookie Pete. I was on the

668
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: team with he did it. Then Judge did it in seventeen.

669
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: Oh man, I would say, I would say, right now.

670
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, see I hate I hate it.

671
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: Wait wait god, I'm gonna help you, dude. I think

672
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: it's easy. I think it's a lock. We had this

673
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: with with Mike Trout when he did this, and then

674
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: actually it's kind of played out that way where Mike

675
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: Trout was the man. I mean even I would well

676
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: probably in similar guard to Judge right, more of an

677
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: all around I mean they're both all around players. I

678
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: don't know, both superstars in their era best in the sport,

679
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: or number two or three at worst. And then it

680
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: just fell off for Trout. That's kind of the question

681
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: that KP's asking in my mind, and Trout's been a lock,

682
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: like when you have a peak. I mean a lot

683
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: of times they look at seven year peak and these

684
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: guys are already you know, like Judge is already what

685
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: more of a nine year peak as the best, if

686
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: not top three player in the sport for that long.

687
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: To me, that's an easy lock. You don't have the volume.

688
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: But we're not talking about a guy that's like, oh,

689
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: he's been in the MVP mix, like you know where

690
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: it's a better conversation Todd is if you know Jose

691
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: Ramirez stops his career to marrow like I think he's

692
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: getting close, but but his would be a little bit

693
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: more of a debate. With Judge, it's like best or

694
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: second best bat for years and years and he's almost

695
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: ten years in the bigs. I'm good.

696
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: And the the reason I'm saying because everybody's like, oh,

697
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: the bias with the New York and with me working

698
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: you know, with the Yankees. That's the only reason I

699
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: pull back because people are like, oh, well he's a

700
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: Yankee guy. But yeah, I would have to one hundred

701
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: percent agree with you on all accounts.

702
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I do, And that's why I disagree with Like,

703
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: that's why I disagree with like the numbers. I'm looking

704
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: at his numbers, sixty two point three war, twelve hundred hits,

705
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: three hundred and sixty eight home runs. But I mean,

706
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: you talk about a nine year period or an eight

707
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: year period of dominance, like Hall of Fame has to

708
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: have a guy like that in it. And this is

709
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: assuming he just stopped playing, you know, if he hasn't

710
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: gradual declined.

711
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: Or even if he falls off the cliff.

712
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 4: But it's it's just crazy, you know that it goes

713
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: back to our point of you know, I don't believe

714
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: in this giant Hall of Fame, but there's got to

715
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: be like some feel like you ask a player who

716
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: played against him, You're like, yes, the guy was a

717
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, Like he was so much better than

718
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: everyone else on the field, and look what he did

719
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 4: for a nine year period of time. Like he was

720
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: the best player on the field for nine straight years.

721
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: You know, probably much like Don Mattingly. Maybe not the

722
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: level of dominance of Aaron Judge, but you ask people,

723
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: when you played against this guy, he was just better

724
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: than everyone else.

725
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: Hey, and you and I need to have a root

726
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: beer and just talk because there's gonna be a lot

727
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: of guys and we play eventually coming up and you

728
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: and me sit down like yeah or no, Like there

729
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: there's a couple of there's one couple that come to mind.

730
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: I get it.

731
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: I get it. It's hard when you have like a

732
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: personal relationship with people. I mean, look at look at

733
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: the name behind me right here. You know, I know

734
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: he's on the Hall of Fame ballot. Like I would say,

735
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: I mean, if if gun pointed to my head and

736
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: I had a vote, you know, I would say probably

737
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: not as a friend of his.

738
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: And wait, just you got to clarify, because you got

739
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Kershaw and Burley.

740
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: That one's a lot, no that I'm talking about?

741
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, that one.

742
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: That side's a lock. This side who I'm talking about?

743
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: Mark Burley, Yes, a guy that god man, he just

744
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: did some great things in this game. He was a

745
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: great team in of mind. I loved him so much.

746
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: He's on the Hall of Fame ballot deservingly so is he.

747
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: When you put Mark Burley in the conversation with a

748
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: Kershaw and a Verlander and a Satchel Page and a

749
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's it's hard.

750
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah? Is he that dude? Does he?

751
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the done Zervan, but when they talk

752
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: about those names, should he be with with that company?

753
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh?

754
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 4: And that's what I That's what I That's what I

755
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: took out of our previous conversation. When you're naming the

756
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: committee and the people that are on the ballot, you're

757
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: like those names kind of all intertwined with each other,

758
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: like I'm not seeing like I'm not seeing guys that

759
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: Like it's not like my name was in there, and

760
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: you're like, okay, no, okay, that's audit. You know, like

761
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: the names seem so intertwined.

762
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: You know.

763
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: And I think they have to do a better job

764
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 4: of recognizing eras of the game, because I do believe

765
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: the game is has only advanced, it's only gotten harder,

766
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: not only the skills required to hit and to pitch

767
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: and to get out and the ability to play defense,

768
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: but just the longevity aspect, you know, because the game

769
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: is trying to get younger and younger, so like it's

770
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 4: a lot harder for players to play a long period

771
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: of time, Like I had to scratch and claw to

772
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: play my last four years to get to ten years,

773
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: like it felt like smooth sailing for my first five

774
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: or six. Like the game's always trying to force you out,

775
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 4: like it's going to be rare we see guys in

776
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: today's game unless they come up as a nineteen year

777
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 4: old to really play, you know, eighteen nineteen years and

778
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: you know, to be able to put up enough time,

779
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: get enough at bats to have three thousand hits or

780
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: three hundred wins. Like it's just not happening anymore. The

781
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 4: game's not allowing it. So you have to factor in errors.

782
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to your point, like you see, how did

783
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: these names get picked? Like for the committee, Like how

784
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: does this happen? And no knock to like Adjason Stark

785
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: or anything. I love him to death. I love I

786
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: love news people. I love them. But they didn't play

787
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: the game either, So it's like it's hard like why

788
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: some people might say why is he on the committee

789
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: and not another player or another ex player? So it's

790
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 3: it's the back and forth battle. It's like, all right,

791
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: well if I'm Barry Bonds, well I'm probably not. I'm

792
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: not saying for this year. I'm just looking at names. Well,

793
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: this guy old school doesn't like this, I'm probably not

794
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: going to get a vote from him. He could probably

795
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: narrow it that to you know, how many guys he's

796
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: really going to vote for him to get in. So

797
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: it's just that type of committee where it's like, all right,

798
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: why not just I don't know what the answer is,

799
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: but it makes you wonder sometimes.

800
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean it's different from the writer's vote,

801
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: which is all writers. So you at least get to

802
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: a point where you're going to then get a blend

803
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: of players executives, and then you got the writers who

804
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: are more of like the historians, who I think, yeah,

805
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: they have a vote, but they're also trying to help

806
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: people understand. Hey, let's look at this era. Let me

807
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: give you all of the information and background on this guy.

808
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Like I think they can be helpful too when they're present.

809
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: But in this in the committee, and you know, more

810
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: the thing about they shouldn't they should help you with that,

811
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: but they probably also, in my opinion, shouldn't have.

812
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: A vote since they already had a vote beforehand.

813
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: Not saying Jason had the vote for that year, but

814
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: they they get the vote already, why not help out?

815
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: Hey this guy did this, this and this.

816
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: Here's the numbers. Boom, good luck. You know what I'm saying.

817
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the vote. Yeah, and a writer can present

818
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: a case, but then they don't get a vote, and

819
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: it's just like, no, this is the player's vote.

820
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good, bad or indifferent. Here's everything on the table. Boom,

821
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: good luck. I'll be outside. You got it, you got

822
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: two hours.

823
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.

824
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: I like it because your point that they already previously

825
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: had an opportunity to vote for someone, and there could

826
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: be some bias with that, but allow writers or historians

827
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: to come into that room and be like, here's the

828
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: historical context. This is how these players stack up. This

829
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: is how they compare. You guys are the ones that

830
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: played You guys are the ones that are in the

831
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. You believe that these players should be,

832
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: you know, placked up with you, on the stage with you.

833
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: You know, I think you would get a better you know,

834
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: a group of players to make that decision. It should

835
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: be people in the Hall of Fame ultimately making that

836
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: decision when it comes to like a vote like this.

837
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Hey, good stuff, guys on the way out here. This

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839
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841
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842
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Speaker 1: Tim Howard.

843
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 2: How did I know that? I'm a beast of soccer.

844
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,920
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845
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852
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00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Let's hit hot corner. What we're hearing about the Cubs.

856
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: Let's just do a quickie on this because we're getting

857
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: close to time. I'm a renewed interest in Alex Bregman.

858
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: The story from Patrick Moodey and toddeve sharmover at the

859
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,520
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860
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861
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: this already. If they don't, they will trust me. Alex

862
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Bregman a candidate to be with the Cubs again. Now

863
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: we know that there was interest initially KP Last year.

864
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: The Cubs offered him in February one hundred and fifteen

865
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Speaker 1: million dollars over four years that included opt out clauses

866
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867
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Speaker 1: Boston was won twenty mil with deferrals, so it was

868
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: actually a little lower overall guaranteed money than the one fifteen,

869
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: but it was over three years with an opt out

870
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: after year one. So the Cubs in my mind, lost bag.

871
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Like they were not close. They put something out there

872
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: that's cute, but they were not close. There's renewed interest.

873
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker's not coming back. You look at the position

874
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: player group and you're like, are they going to let

875
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Matt Shaw run a little bit? Sure, but they have

876
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: a ton of free agents after the twenty six season,

877
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 1: and I think there's some concern there. It's really only

878
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: Dansby Swanson and Matt Shaw, and then there's a number

879
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: of guys that could be an as Suzuki. Nico Horner's

880
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: on that list. So do you think that this is realistic?

881
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: Will this actually happen? I think the biggest question is

882
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: will the Cubs actually be the winning bidder for Alex

883
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: Bragman In this case? I think Boston's gonna outpit them.

884
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 4: How could they not? I mean, Alex Bregman is a

885
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: phenomenal player. They were already had interest in him. Bregman

886
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: did what he needed to do. It wasn't about I

887
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: don't think it was about there was a safety blanket

888
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: with the long term deal, but he really was seeking

889
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: that opt out. He wasn't coming off the best year.

890
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: He proved He's still an unbelievable player. You know, someone's

891
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: gonna just have to step up to the plate. But

892
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: Alex Bredman fits exactly what the Cubs sort of need.

893
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: They need a guy who's been there, done it. Just

894
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 4: imagine a Dansby Swanson Alex Bregman left side of the infield,

895
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: both guys with you know, World Series championships, pedigrees everything.

896
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: I think that would be a you know, great faceiver

897
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 4: franchise moving forward.

898
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy's been a stud I mean, there's enough

899
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: to do, can play. He's doing it at a tough

900
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: age getting older too as well. Not many people want

901
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: these veteran guys anymore, and they're you know, as they're

902
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: getting into their thirties and older. But this kid absolute

903
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: stud plays the game while plays hard, you know if

904
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: his stature too, just plays the game the right way.

905
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: I think he's got the magic sauce too. I think

906
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: he is a true true coach. Jim ratt Nut Yeah exactly,

907
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: But I do think like he like pop quizes guys

908
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: on pitchers to make sure that a guy that he

909
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like studying enough is studying. He's going up

910
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: to every guy with tips, right, not like forcefully, just

911
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: like I think a really brilliant baseball mind. I think

912
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: you've heard that from a lot of guys that play

913
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: with him. And then he goes to Boston, you hear

914
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: stories like that. And this was mentioned in the article

915
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: that Pete crow Armstrong really gravitated towards Justin Turner, and

916
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: this could be that next guy that could help Pete

917
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: continue to develop, someone like Alex Bragmant coming in remember

918
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: PCA was an MVP candidate, was gonna a ton of money

919
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: on an early extension, and then he really fell off

920
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. But the talent's there.

921
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: We've seen it, right, We've seen it at a superstar

922
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: level for half a season. So anyway, I think the

923
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Cubs would be wise to invest in Alex Bragman coming

924
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: over the team. Will they win the bid? I don't

925
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think they're going to spend as

926
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: much as as someone else. And I also think that

927
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: their focus is on pitching, which is fine. So then

928
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: if you're going to spend your big money you're a

929
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: big nut on someone, then go on pitching. I'm okay

930
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: with that.

931
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: It's to your point. I never to your point. I

932
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 4: never played with Alex Bragman, but I kind of knew

933
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: him a little bit, And I just remember one day

934
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: calling him on the phone asking about hitting in the

935
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 4: off season, and he said, hey, let me call you

936
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: right back. He facetimeed me. He was standing up in

937
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: his house with a bat and just took me through

938
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: a bunch of different things that he thought about that

939
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: he felt like would help me. And like I said,

940
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 4: I never played with the guy. For him to like

941
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: take that time out of his day to kind of

942
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: just help me out just kind of shows what type

943
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: of guy is that, how much he loves hitting and

944
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: gain the game and being engaged with people to try

945
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: to make them kind of the best version of themselves.

946
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's never here. I never got that call from him.

947
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: I guess that wasn't that good.

948
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: But hey, Todd, guess what if you call her if

949
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: you FaceTime him this week, I bet you he'll do it.

950
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: I bet you.

951
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: I know he will.

952
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna he loves it. When I wake

953
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: up in the morning in my robe, I'm gonna ask

954
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: him to move the hips, show me how to go

955
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 3: from A to B. Baby, let's go.

956
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 4: He's gonna be flash lights, flash lights don't rotate.

957
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: He's definitely the guy, right yeah, right here, always has

958
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: a back and always you'll catch him. You'll catch him

959
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: at any time, like it's like six in the morning,

960
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: he's just waking up and like this is how he's

961
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: drinking his cup of coffee, right like, oh, hey Todd,

962
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, some medding tips where like always has

963
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: to have a bat. Yeah. Anyway, so we'll see what

964
00:44:53,800 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: happens with that. Let's hit slap oh Winter meetings next week.

965
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: This is the way that we finish off this week,

966
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: because next time you hear from us, we will be

967
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: in Orlando. We'll travel far and wide. AJ and I

968
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: to go to our backyard and be at a hotel

969
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: all day and grab gms and managers. Some of the

970
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: names already confirmed on the list include Cardinals manager Ali Marmle,

971
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: Red's manager Terry Francona, Guardians manager Stephen Vote, Tiger's manager A. J.

972
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: Hinch Cardinals knew whatever they're calling in President Baseball Operations,

973
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: him Bloom both new guys for the Nationals. Paul Toponi

974
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: running the front office, Blake Puterra running the manager's side.

975
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: We got our insiders there, Ken Rosenthal, Bob Nightingale, Robert Murray,

976
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: Jim Bowden. We're bringing it so we'll see you on

977
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: YouTube or if you listen to us on the podcast

978
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: next week. That's all we got you guys crushed. I

979
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: like this lineup combination.

980
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: Good line Hey, make sure you make sure you I

981
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 4: d Blake Buttero okay, make sure you id.

982
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: Hey, you know AJ and Kratz will manager. That's under

983
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: forty years old. They're going to bring all your two

984
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: young baby face blah blah blah kind of jokes. And

985
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: I heard an interview with Blake the other day. He

986
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: does sound like he's a pretty mature guy, as he

987
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: has to be, so don't worry. Kp AJ will handle that.

988
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: He'll have a drink in hand and be like, I

989
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm allowed to give this to you.

990
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: See everyone Monday,