1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Second down and seven passes high in the air and picked. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Simon is back there to grab it out of the 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: air and an early takeaway for this Patriots defense. This 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: one blocked out of the air into the end zone 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. It's the rookie twin a bitch now 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: we like Paion. They fake it to him. Good protection 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: of this one is hitting the air and picked off, 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: intercepted by darn Harmon. Looked like that ball was tipped 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: and Harmon out of bounds near the twenty's lacrosse back 10 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: in there for New England. Handout to Bolden for the touchdown. 11 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle checks in, Brady takes prows ahead. He's got 12 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: it for the touchdowns. Passages pick five Gilmore and that 13 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: is number three for Daniel Jones. Jones fort hill of 14 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: it up, dirt down ball comes out picked up by 15 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: the Patriots in van Noy times Kyle van Noy scoring 16 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots second touchdown from defense and special teams on 17 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: the night, salting away a win over the Giants, a 18 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: score that is kind of misleading. It was closer and 19 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: also a bigger blowout than we expected, and it was 20 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: a weird game in many ways. The Patriots defense committing 21 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: or getting four takeaways off of the Giants scoring fourteen points. 22 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: And really, you know, this game went into halftime pretty close. 23 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: It was a one score game going into the fourth quarter. 24 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: And yet the Patriots, who remained undefeated, still look like 25 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: the creamy the DFC. The Giants, Uh, they are who 26 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: we thought they were. Daniel Jones, a rookie quarterback making 27 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: his first starting prime time against Bill Belichick, played how 28 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: we expected. Uh, you know, it started out odd, but 29 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: I think the result is what we expected. Yeah, it 30 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: was exactly what I expected. I tweeted this out. By 31 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the way, Uh, Jeremy doing the A t N Thursday. 32 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: That's right, we have to introduce our introduce. These are 33 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: voices you are not used to hearing. Yeah, um, Eddie 34 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: Spaghetti here crossing over from DDFP and Fantasy now doing 35 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: the A t N recap because the heroes are over 36 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: in London having a great time. And I believe today 37 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: also is Mark Cecil's birthday. Saw birthday, Mark, Happy birthday? Mark? 38 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: You are they're probably sleeping right now, they're not out 39 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: and about probably not what time would you be there? 40 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: We're doing this around like I think this is an 41 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: eight hour time difference. I I don't really know. They've 42 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: been busy with doing shoes. I've been seeing all their 43 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: stuff on social media. They put out a pot today. 44 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Um working hard. I know they are, and I hope 45 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: they're having fun frist crossing the city. But yeah, thirty 46 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: four team. My pregame tweeter, I said thirteen. I said 47 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: that Darius Slay would have a big game. It was 48 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Golden Tape with the biggest game. Although Slaton did have 49 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: targets as we're talking about off their before we started. 50 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: Uh defense, I said, Golden have a good game. He did. Um, 51 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, Lonza Carla good Jack Crab made a couple 52 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: of good players, a couple of bone headed plays, just 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: sloppy penalties again, which is carrying more from last week 54 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: from the Vikings game, and uh and then yeah, you 55 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: have a rookie quarterback going into Foxboro where Belichick has 56 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: never lost at home with facing a rookie quarterback. So 57 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: I kind of knew what this game was getting into. 58 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: But from the start it didn't it didn't feel like, 59 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, this game is not going to be the 60 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Patriots going down the field and the Giants looking at 61 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: napped and they kind of scorn and it will be 62 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: over by the end of the first quarter. It was 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: like a really wonky star the wind and like a 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: couple of guys are heard in the Patriots squad. Obviously 65 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Gihnts had a lot of injuries themselves, and it's like, Okay, 66 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: this maybe a sloppy game, that weird SUPs gonna happen. 67 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: A lot of weird stuff did happen, that's right. It 68 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: started out. Everybody was talking about the Giants coming into 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: the game. You don't have Sa Kwan, you don't have Gallman, 70 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, Sterling Separd. Who is Daniel Jones supposed to 71 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: throw to get the ball to against a defense that 72 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: is taking the ball away from everybody Jameis Winston Kirk, uh, 73 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: everybody that they've played against, and uh, you know, it 74 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: didn't start well for the Patriots. Tom Brady moved the 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: ball up and down the field, but they went for 76 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: fourth on the on an early drive. They didn't get it. 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: The Giants moving the ball as well, but punt it 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: right back. But when the Giants pumped the ball back 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: in their own zone, big play from the Patriots special 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: teams block block punt Chase Winovich, of all people, the best, 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: arguably the best player Patriots player from Michigan on the 82 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: field tonight. Not not Tom Brady, Chase Winovich. Uh receives 83 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 1: the pump block touchdown, runs it into the end zone, 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: and um, you know, if you're somebody who owns the 85 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: Patriots and fantasy, this is you know, this is what 86 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: you want. The defense special teams four turnovers again and 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: the pump block return. So that's pretty much five turnovers. Uh, 88 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: And that's how that's how it got started. But then 89 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: pretty much the Patriots score again. But Daniel Jones, who 90 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: struggled mostly in this game throwing tight window passes as 91 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: he is wont to do, has been doing it at 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: a great higher than any other quarterback in the league. Um, 93 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: finally breaks went open on uh the Golden Tate a 94 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: sixty four yard touchdown pass. With the Patriots at fourteen nothing, 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: we think that the Giants are lost in this game. 96 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Breaks it out to Golden Tate over Jonathan Jones, and 97 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: suddenly the Giants are back in this And then almost 98 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: on the very next drive, Marcus Golden shows up and 99 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: attacks the Patriots left side. Ryan Izzo is protecting Marshall Newhouse, 100 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: who's a fill in on the left strip, sacks Tom Brady. 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: You don't see that very often, and Marcus Golden uh 102 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: takes it. Yeah, a couple of points to make to 103 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: go back to the we're recapping here and the beginning 104 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: of the game when they stopped him, it was like 105 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: a third down stop and a fourth down stop, and 106 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: then you know Golden gets the sack and an early 107 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: part of the game. And now I'm thinking to myself, like, Okay, 108 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: this defense the Giant Stevens actually came to play there. Here, 109 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: they showed up. This defense has been much better since 110 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: the second half of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Gamehere they 111 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: obviously came back and win on my game. And I'm 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: thinking to myself like, oh, man, like, only if sake 113 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: I was playing, and only if Evan Ingra was playing, 114 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: and only if Stirling Sharp was playing, you have give 115 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: him a uh some kind of safety blanket. Like in 116 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, Okay, well, you can cancel out 117 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: either Slating nor Golden Tate because Stephon Gilmore, in my opinion, 118 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: is probably the best cover corner, if not a defensive MVP. 119 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Stuff on. Gilmore had to pick in this game and 120 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: also five passes defense. Yeah, I mean, he's he's insane, 121 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: He's I mean, I'm shocked that Jones even wanted to 122 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: throw in his direction. So very confident Jones, I mean, 123 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: he you see it on a lot of these, way 124 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: too confident for a rookie. But you can see that 125 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: he wanted he wants to take chances, and that was 126 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: evident in a lot of the passes attempted toward Gilmore. 127 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: He had an insane amount of passes there were with 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: like less than a yard of room, and I think 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: he only completed the touchdown you mentioned the Tate and 130 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: one of the past that was completed over ten yards 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: so early on two because with the defense playing that 132 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: great and they're just doing these like dink and dunk 133 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: little screens with Jones, he's not taking shots down field. 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're you're you You're getting to Brady, 135 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: You're stopping their run, and they're like, Josh, Gordon is 136 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: all banged up, he's not he's not playing. So you 137 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: had the chance to strike and they were in striking 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: distance and then all of a sudden, like you mentioned, 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: the two straight scores is fourteen fourteen, and now it's like, Okay, 140 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: we have a ball game. This is not not what 141 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: I expected whatsoever. I thought They're gonna be out of 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: this game literally within a couple of minutes, and Brady 143 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: would look great and whatever. And I got to the 144 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 1: point where Brady wasn't making plays. The Giants were making plays, 145 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: i know, defensively, and I'm like, is this is the 146 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Patriots team twenty nineteen or they like a replica of 147 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the two thousand Baltimore Ravens. Like in my head, I 148 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: was going to say that I was going to tweet 149 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: that out and get eating Alive on on Twitter, and 150 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: luckily I did not do that because I mean, he 151 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: ended up with a pretty good game overall time. Brady 152 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: not to go light at the end of the game, 153 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: but he yeah, I mean, right after the Marcus Golden 154 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: uh funnal return, you see Belichick, you know, kind of 155 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: shaking his head, rubbing his eyes on the sideline. The 156 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Patriots still had four minutes left in the half, and 157 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: they embark on probably I mean, obviously they're probably their 158 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: driver of the game. A level play drive took four minutes, 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: and they eventually scored on a Tom Brady uh t 160 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: D run, which is you know what you get QB 161 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: sneak from Tom Brady. This was the first game, interestingly enough, 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady had a T D run, didn't throw 163 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown through a pick, and also fumbled. It was 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: a very odd game from him. He was short a 165 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: lot of weapons today. He came in without Rex Burkhead, 166 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: without Philip Dorset uh. And then pretty much halfway through 167 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: the game, Josh Gordon goes out with a knee injury, 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: but he suffers on the return of Marcus Golden uh 169 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: into the end zone. And so by the end of 170 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: the game, Brady is playing with h mix of James 171 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: White and Sony Michelle Edelman. But then you're also playing 172 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: with Jacobe Myers, Gunner, oh Osholski Oslowski, I don't really 173 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce his name, from the Midge State 174 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: who played like about fifty snaps and uh and Ryan 175 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Iszos your tight end? I mean they were talking earlier 176 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: in the game because Crafts said something that NFL Network 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: about how you know Gronk hasn't signed his retirement papers yet, 178 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: and Rob Gronkowski showed up on the Fox pregame show. 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: They asked him about whether he was thinking about coming 180 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: out of retirement, and he said, only when I really 181 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: feel it. But I'm keeping the door open. When you 182 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: see a game like this where a lot of the 183 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: weapons go out, you cut Ben Watson this week, maybe 184 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: you think about trying to bring Gronk back in. I 185 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: know he looked like he was having a great time 186 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: with stray Hand and the guys on that the Fox 187 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: UH halftime set. But the Patriots really they lost a 188 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: lot of guys today. And this I mean and Brady, 189 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they moved the ball after the half. They 190 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: right out of the half, they went on a six 191 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: team play drive UH over took over nine minutes, and 192 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: then there was a missed field goal, and then they 193 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: went on another nine play drive UH turnover on downs 194 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: because they don't trust Mike Nugent, as they should not 195 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: trust Mike Nugent. At this point, and this was a 196 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: one score game into the fourth quarter, Daniel Jones had 197 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: the ball down seven points and if he had somebody 198 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: like say Kwon, like Sterling Shepard, maybe they couldn't moved 199 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: the ball. He needed on safety blank because like I 200 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: said before, Stefan Gilman, who in the second half had 201 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: a pick on a drive. The Giants wore moving the ball, 202 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: which was a total momentum killer. And yeah, if he 203 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: had a safety blank, if you had Evan Ingram, who's 204 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: a mismatch night are if you have sae Quon Barkley 205 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: and can i the They were running the ball with 206 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: Hillman up the gut so many times in her own 207 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: it's like I wanted to scream that it's not working, 208 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: Like it's just not gonna work. It. It was giving 209 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: me PTSD back when like Kevin gilbrid was avience a 210 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: coordinating they would do like the third and nine Eli 211 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: draw plays and it's just like, stop pounding, this is 212 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: not gonna work. First of all, you have a larger 213 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Penny in the roster, use him the shortge anyway over Hillman. 214 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean that shows you the difference of Sa Kwan 215 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Barkley versus whoever, because sake and will bounce it outside, 216 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: he will make a play. He's more dynamic in the 217 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: passing game because Jones were just forcing I don't know 218 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: if it was the wind or it was just because 219 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: that was the only thing the Patriots were giving him 220 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: on defense was to just dump the ball off to 221 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: your running back. On let to make a play. Well, 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: me and you both know that. You know they're not 223 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: Hellman or Penny are not going to make the places 224 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: at stake Quan or even to an extent, having Wayne 225 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Goldman is a little bit more of an upgrade um 226 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: over those two guys who played today. So that, yeah, 227 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: that was that really hurt the James. A shame that 228 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Sa Kwan didn't get to play. Belichick, you know, Belichick 229 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: has these guys that he really enjoys ever read guys 230 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: like that Sa Kwan. He was I love talking talking 231 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: lovingly about sa Kwan earlier in the week, saying, you know, 232 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: there's there's really nothing wrong with him as a running back, 233 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: and you know they're glad that they're not playing him. 234 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: And with a defense like the Patriots have where there's 235 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: no shining star, but everybody contributes. The secondary can shut 236 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: teams down, can shut Cody Lattimer down or Darius Slayton down, 237 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: you really need somebody like sa Kwan, somebody to carry 238 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: the ball, touch the ball five times. It was a 239 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: shame that he couldn't get back from the ankle injury 240 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: by the time this game kicked off. But again they 241 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: had the ball with eight minutes, just over eight minutes 242 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: to go in the fourth quarter, uh Jones gets blitzed 243 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: from Dron Harmon dumps it down to Hillaman and you 244 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: know the play of the game that you heard at 245 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast, uh strip sacked by Jamie 246 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Collins who's having a great year and picked up by 247 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy after a scrum runs it in and 248 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: from there they really didn't have a chance. Yeah, the 249 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line, a lot of people were saying on 250 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: social media was reading this offensive line is a lot better, 251 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: and I wanted to just reply to everyone, but like, yeah, 252 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot better than was last year. Last year 253 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: you were you know, it was Will Herndon is his 254 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: rookie year, and Solder and him didn't have the chemistry, 255 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: and the lest side of the line and how Appia 256 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: was injured and the right side the line was a mess. 257 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: And obviously now with the trade, the trading away Olivia 258 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Vernon getting in Kevin's Eisler and then having a Ramors 259 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: play right tackle, and Will Harndon is becoming a pretty 260 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: good left guard and obviously Halloo, it's it's a much 261 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: better unit that being said last week versus the Vikings. 262 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: The Vikings had their way with them. So there they 263 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: are starting to crack a little bit. And I expected 264 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: the same from this Patriot's defense because one of the 265 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: best defenses is that you've seen in recent memory. Um. 266 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: And then that goes back to what you were saying 267 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: too about you know, not having the safety blanking out, 268 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: having se kwon that force that was forcing Dalia Jones 269 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: to make these tight window throws. And he had three 270 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: interceptions in this game. Eli had three interceptions, and I 271 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: think his career verse the Patriots over like it was 272 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: like five games or whatever it was, including the playoffs. 273 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: So like, you know, it's a really really bad game 274 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: from someone who felt like he had to do more. 275 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: And he wasn't running the ball. He wasn't scrambling as 276 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: much as he had a couple of scrambles, but none 277 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: that really moved the ball move on chains, no, No, 278 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean I saw some mobility in the pocket, but 279 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: other than that, And look, I mean it's it's a 280 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: combination of him being a rookie and the Patriots being 281 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: really really good, Like they're just a really good defense. 282 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: They're really good team. The defense they were coached well, 283 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: like the Giants office line is not the best. The 284 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: Giants were out, were without their best offensive weapons, literally 285 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: their best receiver, at their best tight end, and their 286 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: best running back who maybe the best ending back in 287 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: the league. And you're throwing a rookie quarterback into fox 288 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: row again, like I reiterating, it's it's just not a 289 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: recipe you it's a recipe for his ass. You know, 290 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're getting into with this game. But 291 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: that's why it's staying so much that they were one 292 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: score where they were tied at one point, they were 293 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: obviously one score away going into the fourth quarter, like 294 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: they actually could have won this game, and it's just 295 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: it's a classic Patriots game. And then just like bleeding 296 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: you out slowly and so you know what's gonna happen, 297 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: and they're gonna just you know, control the clock. Eventually 298 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: they're going in the field and score. And that's where 299 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: they had, you know, the easy touchdowns. The bolden Brady 300 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: had two rushing touchdowns himself. And I feel like a 301 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: lot of passes in the second half of the game, 302 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm Manny, you probably have the SATs 303 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: how many uh offensive players the Patriots had versus Giants defense. Well, 304 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: I can tell you that the Patriots ended the game 305 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: and this was kind of like how the Colts beat 306 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, except I wouldn't called Daniel Jones Patrick mahomeshots point. 307 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: The Patriots finished the game with thirty nine minutes of 308 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: time of possession. I mean even just gassed. I mean 309 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots offense, uh, you know, move the ball well, 310 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: but they also didn't finish. But the Giants had no 311 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: chance afterward. You know, the defense is gassed and then 312 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: you just keep going down and by the time that 313 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: the final defensive touchdown came, Jihants couldn't move the ball 314 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: and then the Patriots come right back down to make 315 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: it a three score game. And it's exactly what it 316 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: felt like in the second half. It was. It was 317 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: the Giants defense was just gassed. They were doing everything 318 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: they possibly could with a bunch of back obviously missing, 319 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: like guys a linebacker and the defensive backfields and mess. 320 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Uh it's just it's a it's a really tough year. 321 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: And they say they somehow figured how to stop or 322 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: at least slow down the pages for a bit, But 323 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: once you got to the like the lates, I can have. 324 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: I felt there were so many receptions by the Patriots 325 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: players they were there were just like no guys near them, 326 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: like no one was being covered. Like you have these 327 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: backup slot guys coming in and back like tight ends 328 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: and like guys who no one across the country even 329 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: knows their names, and they're just catching balls. There's no 330 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: defender within seven yards in a circle of them. And uh, 331 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's gonna happen when you're on the 332 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: field for that long and you're offense not moving the ball, 333 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: because then when the offenses, uh, you know, trying to 334 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: score points, it's just like around the middle, around the middle, 335 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: and then some kind of like week third down little 336 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: pass behind a lones scrimmage to a running back and 337 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: it's not going anywhere, and like they were not taking shots. 338 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Like I said before, Jones didn't completely Like we had 339 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: two passes there were longer than ten yards. Like that's 340 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: not gonna win you ball games with the Patriots in Foxborough. Again, 341 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what we should have expected with the 342 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: Giants coming in here the Patriots defense, and maybe this 343 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: is a good transition into what we expect from both 344 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: of these teams going forward. The Patriots defense UH through 345 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: six games have sixteen turnovers, sixteen takeaways, fourteen interceptions. No 346 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: other team in the league has more than seven, so 347 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: that's double. They have a plus one two point differential. 348 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: They get the Jets next week on Monday Night Football, 349 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: so we think that maybe they can go into uh 350 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: the week eight UH at seven and oh, but then 351 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots face of pretty uh pretty Staunt Gauntlet, Browns, Ravens, Eagles, Cowboys, Texans, 352 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs with a buy somewhere in there? You know, people 353 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: are you know they were talking about earlier before the game. 354 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: Can we compare this defense to the Bears UH of 355 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: eighty five or the Ravens of two thousand. We're looking 356 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: at the early season competition, and by the end of 357 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: this game, their competition has a record of seven and 358 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: twenty two by my account. You know, how are you 359 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: supposed to judge them when they're beating up Luke Falk 360 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Daniel Jones on the road at 361 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: home on a short week. I don't know. I think 362 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: I think the turnovers tell a different story. I think 363 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: that the fact that they are blowing teams that they 364 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: should blow out. I mean, they it doesn't look pretty, 365 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, they won by 366 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: three scores when they weren't playing their best, and I 367 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: think that suits them well going into these games against 368 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: also young quarterbacks like Sam Donald, Baker, Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, 369 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: h Carson and Dak who have history, DeShawn Watson and 370 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. These are all young quarterbacks schemed going against 371 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: the defense scheme by Bill Belichick, who should probably um, 372 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: you know, ruin their days a bit. A few questions 373 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: about that. Well, first of all, I'll go with their schedule. 374 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: I know you said like it's like you called it 375 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: a gauntlet, but I think it's a gauntlet the Browns, Ravens, Eagles, Uh, Cowboys, Texans, Chiefs, 376 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: and I'm obviously then it gets really easy. It's like 377 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: a singular commercial. Just keep the bars keep going up. 378 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: But in reality, how many games of those do you 379 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: think they're gonna lose? Because I'm looking on like Cleveland's 380 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: mass they're gonna be Cleveland, Baltimore's come back down to 381 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: the right, They're not as good as we all thought. 382 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna beat them between if you want to say 383 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: they'll split between the NFC East teams, the better NFC 384 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: East teams and the Eagles and Dallas all right, I 385 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: mean Dallas lately has looked whatever. But I think they're 386 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: a good squad team. I think goes where um the Eagles, Houston. 387 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't trust Houston it ever to ever beat the Patriots, 388 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: like in the history of mankind, that will never happen. 389 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: And then the one game that everyone wants to see 390 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: is then versus the Chiefs. That will be interesting game. 391 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, it is. It's a gauntlet in 392 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: terms of it's you're not playing Luke Falk, You're not 393 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: playing the Dolphins, You're not playing the red Skins, you know, 394 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: or the I guess the Giants at this point. But oh, 395 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: don't put don't put yourself. I know, I know, I'm 396 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm I'm being very self deprecating. But the but I 397 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: still think they're gonna come out. Maybe I can't see 398 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: them losing more than two games that I don't even 399 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: think they would lose too, maybe one at worst. Well, 400 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: it's it's not you know, it's not a problem with 401 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots lose one or two games. I mean, they're 402 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: really only competing with the Chiefs for the top seed 403 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: in the chief see maybe the Bills, but you don't 404 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: expect the Bills to you know, be anymore than a 405 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: wild card threat there. Uh, you know, the question is 406 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: can they go and defeated because people want to crown 407 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: this team as a all time great defense and the 408 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: offense is not picking it up. They have a lot 409 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: of injuries on the offensive side of the ball. I'm 410 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: not sure if the offensive line situation is as solid 411 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: as they prefer. The tight end situation the same way. 412 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: The running game today was not Son of Michelle's best. 413 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: They couldn't really establish the run um. You know. That's 414 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: what you know, that's what you want to see out 415 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: of the Patriots. You're expecting great things. Uh, you're expecting 416 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: maybe an undefeated season or something close to it. And 417 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: so that's why it's gonna be interesting because they really 418 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how the NFL schedule gods 419 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: did this. They split it into pretty much like you know, 420 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: Sam Houston State for six straight weeks and then you're 421 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: going right into the Auburn game. If you're you know, 422 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: to compare it to Alabama exactly. Yeah, you're scheduling those 423 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: cupcakes and you they the schools. You have to pay 424 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: the school to come play, you eat. That's that's that's 425 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: really what it is. And it's just so weird too 426 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: that this Patriots team is. They're just so they adapt 427 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: to what they have to like to become. Because right 428 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: now Tom Brady, I mean, he had statistically was an 429 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: okay game like thirty four. He did have the pick um, 430 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: but it looks good at the end. But during the game, 431 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't like, oh man, he's gonna pick us apart. 432 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: I lost that feeling that about time Brady that he's 433 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: going to I shouldn't shouldn't say he'll he could win 434 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: you games, but I don't fear him like I maybe 435 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: used to, or someone like Pat Mahomes who's gonna just 436 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: close his eyes and sling the ball six yards, Like 437 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: I just Tombody will not do that anymore. He doesn't 438 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: have to, you though, because the defense is elite or 439 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: whatever is there's a better term than elite, because they're 440 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: by themselves right now. And then you have you know, 441 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: you have four or five running backs who could suably 442 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: just come in and get on yards in the ground 443 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: and catch a bunch of passes. So like they don't 444 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: need Brady to be this amazing superhero at quarterback. They 445 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: have a great ground game, they have a great defense, 446 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: and that's enough, and he could be an elite game 447 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: manager and figure out how to beat these teams because 448 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: they're just that much smarter, that they're that much more 449 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: well prepared than the thirty one other teams in this league. 450 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I think it's amazing. We're calling future Hall 451 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: of Fame or forty two year old likely all Pro 452 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady a game that's that's okay, and and not 453 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: not just a game. He is the elite game. He 454 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: is the game managers of game managers. He's the he's 455 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: the change, he's the branch manager. He's he's as good 456 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: as a continent. And like I said, I'm not shocked 457 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be getting I mean he look, he 458 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: just he threw yeah, thirty one completions through for over 459 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: three yards Firth the Giants, Uh, you know, only seven 460 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: first downs, forty almost forty minutes of time of possession. 461 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean that this is how you defeat And that's me. 462 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: It's like it's not just about his numbers and his stats. 463 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: He I think that he knows he's calling the right place, 464 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: he knows to do. Him and Belichick together, they're gonna 465 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: do what they have to do to win game. That's 466 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: why I don't know. He doesn't have to be a superhero. 467 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: He could be this. He could be what he is 468 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: right now at forty two. And he's going to be 469 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: limited physically because of his age and and but that's okay. Uh, 470 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: they're one making certain like you mentioned, is like the 471 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: evins of line. If you don't want to see Tom 472 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: Brady at this age with a bad offensive line him 473 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: scrambling around, because then that's gonna change everything about this team. 474 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: The one thing they need to do is to run 475 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: the ball consistently into at least uh get get these 476 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: running backs the catches out of the backfield. You can't 477 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: do that if you have uh, you know, Marshall new 478 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: House playing left tackle and needing the tight end to 479 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: constantly help, you know, Chip block him for an entire game. 480 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: That's just not gonna help you at all. And fail 481 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: to do so. Lorenzo Carter, so yeah, he got hit 482 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: six times, sacked three times. The Patriots I think will 483 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: be all right for at least next week. Uh. The 484 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: Giants it's not quite a lost season because you still 485 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: have to watch Daniel Jones and you know you're not 486 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: the Redskins. At least you know you're not you're not 487 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: the fourth team, and you're not you know you're not 488 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: tanking like the Dolphins. There's something to to play for here, 489 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: but you need Shephard Ingram to get back and see 490 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: what this offense could be at its peak. You only 491 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: got half of that against the Bucks, and that was 492 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: not even their best half. No, yeah, totally. I mean 493 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: you could see from my mood, I'm not a day. 494 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm not here crying about the lost row. I I 495 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: went in pretty indifferent, going, okay, let's just let's just 496 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: take some positives from this game. And there were some 497 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: positives versus the best team in the NFL. Um there's 498 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: some glaring negatives though, Like you know, Dalen Jones, the 499 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: best thing about him so far this year in comparison 500 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: to ELI, was his ability to convert on third down 501 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: This this game, they can their only twenty They only 502 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: converted their h third down plays, which is your Again, 503 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: that's a really bad thing to do in Foxboro versus team, 504 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: and like this, so that I didn't love I mean 505 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the sloppyiness has continued. I said it before was the 506 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: Vikings game, and like in Dan Jones had a problem 507 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: with fumbling snaps too, and now he did not follow, 508 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: but he threw like he threw three picks and like 509 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: the tight win. I was like, I don't like to 510 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: see that. Um, he's gotta be smart about that. That 511 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: that's something you don't want because if he's gonna turn 512 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: the ball over, you're gonna lose games. Uh, no matter 513 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: how good. Uh. You know the defense might be playing 514 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: as of late, so yeah, I mean their schedule upcoming. Um, 515 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, Arizona is gonna be tougher than people realize. 516 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: I think, Uh, I don't love the idea of having 517 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback running around with the defense like the 518 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: it's not a lockdown defense and James Betcher revenge game exactly. Yeah. 519 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: And then Detroit, I think Troy's actually pretty solid. And 520 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: then you have the Cowboys again, you know, this time 521 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: with Danie Jones they had they played in the first 522 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: time with with with Eli. And then you have you know, 523 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: the Jets, but Donald back who knows about that game. 524 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: Like a lot of these are coin flips, like Chicago 525 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: should beat them, Green Bay should beat them, Philadelphia should 526 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: beat them. Then you have Miami and h Washington back 527 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: to back, hopefully those are wins, and then phil welf 528 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: you can to end the season. So like, you know, 529 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: it's not gonna look great wins and loss wise, but 530 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: right now the Giants are like too. I want to 531 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: use an analogy that with the Avengers at the end 532 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: of end game when you have you know, three or 533 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: four guys fighting fanos, and that's like what the Giants 534 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: team is right now, right and now, when Ingram was 535 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: back and sake On comes back and Cheval comes back 536 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: and get some guys on defense back and even Gallman 537 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: to to to spell Sa Kuan when needed, that's like 538 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: when the circle rings start coming and the guy starts 539 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: stepping out. That's that's when the team's complete. So right 540 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: now you're we're Giants fans collectively are just like you're 541 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: not really seeing the what it's supposed to be. So 542 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: that's why it's okay, um, but it's still frustrating to 543 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: lose games in the matter they did like tonight, where 544 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: you're sloppy and if you don't take dumb penalties like 545 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: what Golden Data bounds and you don't throw the ball 546 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: into tight windows and three those of turnovers, don't fumble 547 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: the ball, the don't block, just block on punts, just 548 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: block on punts, and then you know, this game could 549 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: have been different. That is very frustrating. I'd rather almost 550 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: just get smoked and lose forty five thing and not 551 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: even be involved. I don't know. I think that. I 552 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: think this was a really encouraging performance from the Giants. 553 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: You saw the defense step up on occasion. They couldn't 554 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 1: stop the Patriots in the second half when they were 555 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: moving the ball. But the fact that Lorenzo Carter got 556 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: to Brady on occasion, Uh, Marcus Golden, there's a lot 557 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: to work with their jack rabbit gotta pick, but Brady 558 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: kind of threw it to him. Um, you know, the Giants, 559 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: they're not really playing for the postseason. Schrmer is kind 560 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: of not he's not really coaching for his job necessarily, 561 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: so they're kind of in a purgatory right now. And 562 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: a win tonight Thursday night would have really turned the 563 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: season around. He's turned the feelings around. Sure, No, it's 564 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: totally like you know, Golden, Tate wanted more targets and 565 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: targets and got more targets. The guy that he's going 566 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: to be, you know, hopefully a part of the you know, 567 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: the immediate future on this I don't know like that. 568 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: It's not like Jones had another option. No, no. And 569 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: by the way, Taide was the he's the first player, uh, 570 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: a little fantasy nugget here, the first player in Fantasy 571 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: to score fifteen or more points. First new ends defense 572 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: this year. So Golden Date, you should be very happy 573 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: when your performance today. No more crying to the media. Um, 574 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean for the Fantasy podcast. Yeah. Uh. And then 575 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: this is the first time since I think seventeen where 576 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's fumbled and through interception, So that's another slight positive. 577 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: But like exactly what you're saying, they're in this weird 578 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: purgatory of like you wanted to see guys grow. Marcus 579 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: Golden bet on himself and took a one year contract, 580 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: and the guy has been a monster every single game 581 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: for the Giants. Uh, he's gonna get a massive contract, 582 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: hopefully it's with this team, and just stays like that's 583 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: a piece I'm looking forward to. Uh, because he's fully 584 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: healthy now. Dextra Lawrence up the middle should be a beast. 585 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: Lawrenzo Carter young, great player, like should be great. Uh 586 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: jibbil preppers had I think he was tied or second 587 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: for tackles tonight, Like he's looked better, so like there 588 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: are some bright spots. Jon dr Baker hopefully just only 589 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: gets better. He made a couple of nice tackles. I 590 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: know his coverage has been pretty spotty early on, but 591 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: you know there are pieces in the defensive side. Offensive side, 592 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: they have a great core, just not healthy right now. 593 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: So it's just the waiting game. You want to see 594 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: the full squad there. You want to see what Daniel 595 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Jones could do with his top targets. Um, you know, 596 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: for us, like a brief second, they are a lot 597 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: of Giants fans were happy, going, wow, this is gonna 598 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: happen in Foxborough tonight, like he's gonna shock the world. 599 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: But you know, the rug was pulled off from underneath 600 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: and the Patriots did what the Patriots always do, and 601 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: and then it should and frankly it should have happened 602 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: like that, Like they are the better team. They will 603 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: be playing in late January, probably in February, and um, 604 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: right now, the Giants saw what it's like to go 605 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: to the best team's building. Uh, in a primetime game, 606 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: and uh the second half, like I said before, they 607 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: just like slowly let them out and then like that's 608 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: what they do. Like there's nothing else you could really say. 609 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: Not there was no eighteen and one on Thursday night. 610 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: Miracle did not happen. There was no David Tyree, no 611 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: stick him on the helmet. The Patriots moved to six 612 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: and oh the Giants two and four. We got football Sunday, Yeah, 613 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: early football Sunday. Were heroes are going to be in London? 614 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: London game for was it Bucks Panthers? Uh? And a 615 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: couple of there's a couple of big matches I'm looking 616 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: forward to on Sunday as well. Um, it should be 617 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: another good week. It's it's for me. I guess I 618 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: can enjoy this Sunday without having to wake up in 619 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: a world without having to worry about the Giants potentially 620 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: ruining your Sunday in a foul mood. No, yeah, by 621 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: then it's it's days past. I'm fine. I could just 622 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: sit down and let everyone else worry about I'll just 623 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: have my fantasy team up and check that. But or 624 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, put the Reds on on or whatever and 625 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: just watch the games. Uh, totally enjoying them because I 626 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: have no no dog in the fight. That's a great feeling. 627 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: Great failing, We're onto the next one, as are the 628 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: Giants and the Patriots. Thanks for listening. This is Jeremy 629 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Bergman and Eddie Spaghetti filling in for the heroes.