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Speaker 2: Hello and loll and loa loa, Hello, welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host, orm Shooter. It's Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I'm still in jolly old England. My dad is out

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Speaker 2: of hospital. Thank you for all the really kind messages,

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Speaker 2: the text, the emails. I really appreciate it. I've read

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Speaker 2: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.

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Speaker 2: Big story at the top of the show. This story

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Speaker 2: is wild. Let's go through it very, very carefully. So

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are worried about his dad's

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Speaker 2: loose lips. Let me explain Taylor and Travis's engagement. It

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Speaker 2: looked like a picture perfect fairy tale, but insiders say

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Speaker 2: the couple is quietly sweating over an unexpected complication. Travis's father,

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Speaker 2: Ed Now, the very proud seventy four year old, could

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Speaker 2: not resist gushing to ABC Local News five in Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: where he spilled the beans the intimate details of his

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Speaker 2: son's proposal. He said the following quote. Travis asked Taylor

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Speaker 2: to have a glass of wine in the backyard before

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Speaker 2: dropping to one knee. It was beautiful, Ed revealed, even

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Speaker 2: admitting that Taylor was getting quote a little answer. Now,

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Speaker 2: Taylor and her very very powerful and really amazing pr

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Speaker 2: team a famously tight lipped and they don't overshare stuff.

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Speaker 2: So the dad talking this freely has raised the alarms.

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Speaker 2: Sources tell me quote he means, well, but this has

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Speaker 2: given Thomas Markle vibes. If you don't remember, Thomas Markle

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Speaker 2: is Meghan Markle's father who not only spoke to the press,

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Speaker 2: but he sold photographs to the press. He's still talking

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Speaker 2: to the press now. If you give Thomas a few

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars, he will do interviews. I know people that

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Speaker 2: have paid for interviews. I do not, but I have

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Speaker 2: some friends in the media who have. And now he

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Speaker 2: is quite happy to talk constantly about Meghan after.

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Speaker 1: It was revealed that he's staged.

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Speaker 2: And sold pictures, Megan pretty much cut him off. She

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Speaker 2: just cannot trust him. He is meant to walk her

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Speaker 2: down the aisle at the wedding, but Thomas could not

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Speaker 2: be trusted at the wedding. There was fears he would

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Speaker 2: sell those stories too, so in the last minute, King Charles,

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Speaker 2: who at the time was Prince Charles, jumped in to

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Speaker 2: walk her down the aisle. But back to Taylor and Travis,

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Speaker 2: they know how quickly things conspiral, and they prefer to

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Speaker 2: take control of the narrative now. Rather than shutting his

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Speaker 2: dad down, Taylor and her team are working to guide

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Speaker 2: Ed through the spotlight. It's about inclusion. That's what it

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Speaker 2: is about here in Coclusion, not scolding him that never works,

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Speaker 2: but also about protecting Taylor and Travis's story for now.

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Speaker 2: Head's loose lips has fueled a fan and inside a fury,

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Speaker 2: But as one industry veteran told me, quote, every fairy

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Speaker 2: tale needs boundaries, even this one. There is no doubt

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Speaker 2: that Taylor Swift controls her image arguably better than any

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Speaker 2: celebrity out there. They made sure that this announcement was

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Speaker 2: your English teacher getting married. There's clearly somebody in that

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Speaker 2: garden to take a picture. They didn't do a selfie.

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Speaker 2: These pictures are glorious. They're dressed in Ralph Lauren, so

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Speaker 2: she's got makeup on. These are staged pictures of a

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Speaker 2: true event. I'm not saying this event did not happen.

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Speaker 1: It's real.

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Speaker 2: The event is real. But clearly they decided, Wow, we

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Speaker 2: are arguably one of the most famous couple in the world.

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Speaker 2: How do we announce this? What are we going to do?

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Speaker 2: What are we going to say, what are we going

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Speaker 2: And then for his dad to jump on local TV

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Speaker 2: They want interviews, they want baby pictures, they want stories.

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Speaker 2: pressure him? All this stuff conspiral? You see how quickly

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Speaker 2: this can get really, really ugly. You can take a

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Speaker 2: We wanted to control the narrative. Now, celebrities pay a

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Speaker 1: Their mom, their dad, their brothers, their sisters.

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Speaker 2: I've seen people become very very famous in a family

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Speaker 2: and what happens then to the rest of that family,

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Speaker 2: what happens when the press called them. Often these family

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Speaker 2: members are not calling the press. The image out there

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Speaker 2: is these family members can't wait to leak stories, to

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Speaker 2: not normally how it works. A journalist will call them,

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Speaker 2: We'll ask for some baby pictures, we'll ask for some

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Speaker 2: all these newspapers. And so be really really careful here, Ed,

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Speaker 2: I don't think even though you have a famous son,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Ed, or really any other parent in

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Speaker 2: deal with somebody being this famous in their family. Taylor's

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Speaker 2: mom and dad have got this down. They don't do interviews,

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Speaker 2: Tight, and they're very very on message. It's new to

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Speaker 1: His family.

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Speaker 2: Travis's family is new to all this. Yes, is a

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Speaker 2: to have a meeting. I think it's already happened where

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Speaker 2: Taylor's PR team, do not respond. If you get an

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Speaker 2: and it's going to take a minute to learn. And

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Speaker 2: I actually feel terrible for Ed. He did not mean

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Speaker 2: which brings us to our pole question of the day.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey are sweating over one unexpected

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Speaker 2: complication that has arose from their engagement. Travis's father's loose lips.

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Speaker 2: Ed Kelsey is doing interviews. Our question is quite simple,

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Speaker 2: moving along, we have another story that Taylor is involved in,

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Speaker 2: but this one connects her with Megan Markle, not Thomas Markle,

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Speaker 2: Megan convinced that Taylor Swift is out to sabotage her.

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Speaker 2: If you remember, we broke the news that when when

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Speaker 2: the Duchess of Sussex, who's forty four? When she decided

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Speaker 2: to tease the new season of With Love Meghan on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Within twenty four hours, Taylor Taylor had announced her new

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Speaker 2: album Life of a Showgirl. So Taylor sucked the oxygen

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Speaker 2: Meghan that was upset. Every celebrity who planned a press release,

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Speaker 2: all we were talking about was Taylor's album. Well, guess

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Speaker 2: what's happened now? On the same day that Megan releases

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Speaker 2: her new Netflix season two, Taylor announced she's engaged. Now,

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Speaker 2: this could be a coincidence, but twice now in less

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Speaker 2: it's happened twice now. Poor Meghan, she really is doing

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Speaker 2: So she's getting a lot of royal support. But inside,

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Speaker 2: sources are saying she is livid. Okay, this story makes

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Speaker 2: They have Mabel who is thirteen, and Evelyn who's just eleven. Quote,

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