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Speaker 1: we don't have one of the most assistant rappers in
Speaker 1: the world. Every year he has a hit, either it's
Speaker 1: an underground hit or big mega head. He has been
Speaker 1: consistent since nine out here, stopping doing doing it, just
Speaker 1: being just being consistent, giving the fans what they want
Speaker 1: every fucking year. One of the most lyrical people ever.
Speaker 1: It gets looked over his lyricism sometimes because he makes
Speaker 1: so much big hits and people focus on that and
Speaker 1: they don't actually focus. This man is a super duper
Speaker 1: real lyricist plaques on plaques, on plaques, on plaques, on plaques,
Speaker 1: on plaques on plaques. He's been doing it, and I'm
Speaker 1: personally happy to see him from the beginning to where
Speaker 1: he is now the only man in the whole world
Speaker 1: to get away with the inkling. No one can get
Speaker 1: away with this only here. No one qushes him in that.
Speaker 1: That's how cool he is. One of the flies stingers
Speaker 1: in the world. If you don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: motherfucking father, listen, so fab in the beginning, in the beginning,
Speaker 1: you got through, but it's pop. Can you tell a
Speaker 1: braking fats and like, come on, goddamn it, we are celebrating.
Speaker 1: I cannot start the Dame of view and I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I ain't a lot, mr Day. I'm in
Speaker 1: the plastic cups, plastic cups. I like plastics. I'm like
Speaker 1: a hood. I'm wanna drink a special ship, but I
Speaker 1: want to drink first, drink champagne too. Plastic cups work,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm used to them, so fat, Like a
Speaker 1: lot of people, don't let make it to what I
Speaker 1: said in the intro uh to me if you would
Speaker 1: have made records and then and take this, if you'd
Speaker 1: have made records like just street records, like people will
Speaker 1: compare you to like black thought of you don't say
Speaker 1: it with that lyrical thing, because like you're really somebody
Speaker 1: who really thinks about each goddamn ball line? Right, how
Speaker 1: do you develop that? And who inspired that? With artists?
Speaker 1: I think, um, I think the first artist that inspired
Speaker 1: me was Can I See Four? Then I was just
Speaker 1: like a fan of hip hop, so like anybody who
Speaker 1: just had a good joint you. But Kaine was the
Speaker 1: first person that I started seeing like getting style swag,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the girls like that. He
Speaker 1: still was hard, he smashed. He was ahead of his
Speaker 1: time in social media. Social media need have been lit.
Speaker 1: But it was a little too that was too much
Speaker 1: back then then. I think the chocolate, the dots chocolate
Speaker 1: thing might have yeah, and and and then and then
Speaker 1: the Speedos. Remember he had the speedos U in her book, right,
Speaker 1: No I'm tooking my home Big day came. No, No,
Speaker 1: But that's what Naomi Campbell when he had the Speedos, right,
Speaker 1: that's what it would it would then. I know, it's
Speaker 1: just still just still felt weird to me, it definitely
Speaker 1: was weird. Now it was lit he is so Kane
Speaker 1: sparked it for me, and he sparked like line for line,
Speaker 1: like how he would even set up his bars, you know,
Speaker 1: put the quarter in your ask because you played yourself.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What you want dope with
Speaker 1: dog food like he dope dog. Kane was the first one,
Speaker 1: and then it was Big. All my influences was kind
Speaker 1: of close to me too, like Big and then Jay
Speaker 1: because you know, it was from where you're from, related
Speaker 1: more of court, you know what I'm saying. They look
Speaker 1: more relatable to you. They look like you. They look
Speaker 1: they come from the places you come from. Marcia is
Speaker 1: seven minutes from me, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: all of those things was those are the artists that
Speaker 1: you know. How how is it seeing the new Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because um, this is a
Speaker 1: whole new era. Like you got a Soho house in Brooklyn, now,
Speaker 1: like that's how it's different. I mean, but it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's old roll is good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love Bold Brooklyn. I love you know the energy
Speaker 1: of old Brooklyn. I love Brooklyn still there. Let's be clear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: still still underneath you and you make it wrong and
Speaker 1: the roc like that, you know, I mean, it's still there.
Speaker 1: But Nell, Brooklyn is is showing you, um, you know,
Speaker 1: the progression evolution. You know what I'm saying, even you
Speaker 1: know down to the nets coming in, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean that that whole that whole thing is just
Speaker 1: it just shows that Brooklyn is growing up a little
Speaker 1: bit to you know what I'm saying, potential to And
Speaker 1: you think anybody got you on the Show Brooklyn challenge
Speaker 1: or pretty much you nailed everybody. I think I nailed
Speaker 1: it because I said it all. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: that I got after that one. I knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna say that. But because I've seen cassing over to
Speaker 1: an interview and he said, yeah that may don't called
Speaker 1: him and mayn't say he got you. Now listen to me,
Speaker 1: no verse, Yeah, man maynoes you know. And he also
Speaker 1: he's speaking from a place that he comes from. You
Speaker 1: He's he's from notion, from the from the on the street.
Speaker 1: So you know, but I mean on that type of time,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. Single. I might even say that
Speaker 1: my verse started that challenge what I'm It's like when
Speaker 1: you walk on something so bad, like you know, you
Speaker 1: ever you have a felt like everybody want to walk
Speaker 1: you know, everybody want to learn you have from like
Speaker 1: you did a record where, um, you didn't you didn't
Speaker 1: have the best verse. Um, Like my first question for
Speaker 1: anybody's on bad from TVs? Who had the best verse
Speaker 1: on bad from TV? Kissing Styles back and forth Badly?
Speaker 1: I just liked because it was two of them. I did,
Speaker 1: like styles back to style, smoked my weed and went
Speaker 1: pass it back to me. I'm thinking, what is going on?
Speaker 1: And I didn't know now so that but what is
Speaker 1: there a record that you you felt like you should
Speaker 1: have went back in and changed your verse or it
Speaker 1: probably his records that I felt like I could have,
Speaker 1: you know after the fact, But I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was cool with it at the time, Like when
Speaker 1: I'm doing them, I listened to it enough to say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, now we just send it over. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not like the the freestyle off
Speaker 1: the top of the head and just give anybody anything
Speaker 1: like I really sit all right put in it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I think people respect. I
Speaker 1: think when people even getting verses back from me. They listened,
Speaker 1: They don't. You don't sound like if you get a
Speaker 1: verse from and do it Andy being like, man, you
Speaker 1: just said anything on this ship. You know, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think I give people that energy. Now. Now,
Speaker 1: at one point you was doing I think it's the
Speaker 1: Friday Night Freestyles or something was you and Jada right now?
Speaker 1: You would you were you were predominantly doing records that
Speaker 1: was out already, or you was doing new records too. No,
Speaker 1: I was just doing nineties okay freestyle. Have you ever
Speaker 1: free stylet on someone's new record and they got mad
Speaker 1: at you? No? No, because you know, I've got calls
Speaker 1: before when I was the biggest, bigger artist and I
Speaker 1: would rhyme on someone's record and then to the radio
Speaker 1: or the people that's you know, you know cool or
Speaker 1: something will play my version as opposed to playing the
Speaker 1: other artist version. So I've got he was doing that
Speaker 1: back then, you know what I'm saying, because we was
Speaker 1: at that time, we was jumping on new ships. French
Speaker 1: Bobby Smurder remix almost got a little bit more burned
Speaker 1: in the original, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: could I could imagine Bobby Smurder labels called the Sneaky
Speaker 1: Behind that French was supposed to be on the remix,
Speaker 1: but French just threw his out, so he drew it
Speaker 1: out before the remix was completed, or he might he
Speaker 1: might have not even put it out. Let me let
Speaker 1: me say that. I don't think he put it up,
Speaker 1: but it came out with just him and the Bobby
Speaker 1: s Murder when it was supposed to men all the
Speaker 1: people who that was, I guess on the remix. So
Speaker 1: they got that one first, and then I didn't even
Speaker 1: though I know that because the Smurder boys was telling
Speaker 1: me like they hadn't finished putting the re mixed together yet,
Speaker 1: but that one was out now, So you know, people
Speaker 1: gonna play the new joint. Frenches join Hisfic. They really
Speaker 1: do know each other. We do pick up the findy
Speaker 1: man in the background. Got there biking, You're get out
Speaker 1: of here. Then each try to bring some niggas to
Speaker 1: my projects to battle me. Wait wait wait, wait, wait
Speaker 1: to stop to stop stop Okay, hold on, this is
Speaker 1: this is this is you already on or you know? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is me seeing the balls. I'm hot in the hood.
Speaker 1: Preclu Was it pre clue? I might have had a
Speaker 1: I might have a few Clue freestyles at this point,
Speaker 1: and you know, niggas is trying to after me. And
Speaker 1: this is like ninety eight cloud chasing three guess who?
Speaker 1: Guess who the three guys I know who that's who.
Speaker 1: It was the franchise Red Cafe. What's the other thing?
Speaker 1: Bigg eat Bigga and um what's the other nigga? The
Speaker 1: third que ce que Heat in Atlanta? Something that I needed.
Speaker 1: I needed. I need to understand, miss fat. I ain't
Speaker 1: battling y'all niggers a little man. Did that happen like that? Okay, okay, okay, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm like I'm calling I'm happy,
Speaker 1: like you know, gravy real. They ended up that like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you could have like
Speaker 1: even Red Cafe, like I knew them from back then
Speaker 1: with Mike Lightning and ship like that running around with
Speaker 1: Mike Lighty. Yeah yeah, so they was. They was actually
Speaker 1: a little hot, like they got a little I ain't
Speaker 1: Red Cafe killed his book. So Brooklyn freestyle, you see it,
Speaker 1: he killed it. He looked like his face was strong,
Speaker 1: like he was looking a big shot. Yeah, he took again.
Speaker 1: He was working out his head like you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like he was ready. I don't
Speaker 1: look at someone on a space. So you come into
Speaker 1: the game, how do you essentially even connect with to
Speaker 1: my uh my managers at the time, Kep Webb and
Speaker 1: Chill they knew you, Kep web do Clue No first, Yeah,
Speaker 1: met them in my hood that stop and they they
Speaker 1: you know, at the time, a couple of guys was
Speaker 1: coming around saying they could get me on. So there
Speaker 1: was another you know group of those guys. So I
Speaker 1: was just really, I would let people just have the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Let me see what you canna do, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because everybody telling me they could get me on,
Speaker 1: and at that time to getting on, there was no
Speaker 1: Internet and all of that. So it's more like who
Speaker 1: you knew kind of thing, and they who they knew
Speaker 1: it was Clue. Clue at the time was you know,
Speaker 1: Clue had the Monday Night mixtape, had the mixtape game.
Speaker 1: It was it was a big deal. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: they brought me up to Clue. We met Clue and
Speaker 1: not from that point on, I wouldn't say they was
Speaker 1: managers my managers from that point on, but I or
Speaker 1: that day, Um, they connected on their word. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They were saying that they could get
Speaker 1: me the clue because a lot of people at that
Speaker 1: time were just saying, you know it was doing a
Speaker 1: big findy just saying they could get you on whoever,
Speaker 1: whoever is your booking agent is a platinum because you're like,
Speaker 1: you're like every like I ain't gonna lie like every
Speaker 1: other day you were like Vagas or somewhere like you
Speaker 1: you have a platinum agent or is that is that?
Speaker 1: That is that your hits? You gotta relax, I was saying,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, I don't know where,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Let you know, I definitely even think like that. I'm proud,
Speaker 1: Like do you do you realize like you realize most
Speaker 1: rappers can't work like that? Though most rappers can't even
Speaker 1: receive work, you know what I'm trying to say, Like
Speaker 1: most you really can go out every week, can if
Speaker 1: you want it? You know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 1: really can like this, listen that there's this's like Fat
Speaker 1: Joe was especially one like that. Uh, there's not a lot,
Speaker 1: There's not a lot more. I mean there's people. I
Speaker 1: mean there's like always uh, you gotta relax, always always
Speaker 1: always like a DMX, always like a DMX who's who's
Speaker 1: elder than might not have a hit now, but people
Speaker 1: you can still sell a crowd, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people like you can still throw it like like like
Speaker 1: this is a real ship like you can you can
Speaker 1: turn around, I can go like this. I can close
Speaker 1: my eyes and pick up a state and I can
Speaker 1: see that you use there like that. That's that's don't
Speaker 1: let's make some noise to that, goddamnit because you're poking
Speaker 1: agent this classic whoever the kidding that this nigger man?
Speaker 1: She's Luise Papa Cheese. Well so um yeah, definitely man,
Speaker 1: I'm want to pick that up man in the state,
Speaker 1: keep firing. Is it time for I think it's tiger bone?
Speaker 1: Are you ready for phone? Or you don't want to do? Um?
Speaker 1: Your smooth ships call? That's that's what fab You said
Speaker 1: you were size nine and a half or ten? Okay,
Speaker 1: not in the half. He's all at what I'm sad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting many gifts, yet all gifts that. Yes, yes, we
Speaker 1: try to take care of our artists. Man, Yo, fabies,
Speaker 1: you realized I like, I brag about you. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I brag about you too. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I know this nigga since he first came in the game,
Speaker 1: he thinks he beat me in that free style. I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't. That's why I knew you
Speaker 1: to say you never got smoked on the record. I
Speaker 1: just gonna say that because you're very competitive guy. But
Speaker 1: you did that win. Just to be clear, I want
Speaker 1: that's crazy. She was crazy? What did I say? Um? Um,
Speaker 1: let me know. Cast was like Steph mall Berry, who
Speaker 1: in the club without a weapon, so that your feet
Speaker 1: make you do the pump dance to perfection? That was
Speaker 1: kind of all that was kind of all that. But
Speaker 1: you was hungry, y'all ain't gonna give it to you.
Speaker 1: You were trying to me. I listened back and I said,
Speaker 1: it was no way. He wasn't gonna go twice. I
Speaker 1: had to go to you went twice. I didn't know
Speaker 1: when I was gonna ever get that shot again. You
Speaker 1: want to come up there right? You know what? The
Speaker 1: month if you want to at Polly curved grow forward
Speaker 1: like you know. You was like, so you like, I
Speaker 1: come up there around I got some ship to say,
Speaker 1: but you don't got to do it at that point.
Speaker 1: I'm just I didn't even know I was gonna wrap
Speaker 1: that day work. You said that before. I thought I
Speaker 1: thought she was just gonna wrap that. I thought I
Speaker 1: was just going there to me cool. I thought Kevin
Speaker 1: Chair was just so they really put you on the
Speaker 1: spot like that. That's a knocks on back from You're like,
Speaker 1: oh listen, I have the whole commercive break. I'm saying
Speaker 1: my ship in my head just what you say that before.
Speaker 1: But I always thought you was like like playing like
Speaker 1: you you're dead serious. So when you came home, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: showed up. Man, that's the that's the side of fact
Speaker 1: and the factor because you murped it. But but I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here because of that freestyle. So when I seem
Speaker 1: to see the growth from from that, and I always like,
Speaker 1: you know, to tell you true, but I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the funny ship you're growing up fifty earlier. Um, I
Speaker 1: actually seen fifty from the beginning. Like I always tell
Speaker 1: that the fifty that I know he got so much
Speaker 1: like accolades and so much money now and I still
Speaker 1: it's still funny when I say I'm proud of you,
Speaker 1: because I'm so he looking at me like nigga, I
Speaker 1: might see you seven times, but still it doesn't not.
Speaker 1: I seemed to growth. I seem to you come up,
Speaker 1: and I'm always salute that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm always salute that because I see I seem to
Speaker 1: hunger in you in the beginning. I seem that you
Speaker 1: was relentless. You wasn't gonna you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you wasn't gonna let up. And for you to be
Speaker 1: where you at, I definitely salute that, my brother, because
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that should be more.
Speaker 1: You know, just think about Let's think about it. Like
Speaker 1: you had one shot. You went to a radio station
Speaker 1: and at the time, I was like platinum, I was
Speaker 1: like whatever, and you came and each other. I think
Speaker 1: they what did you think you hate? So how did
Speaker 1: you feel about Clue bringing I didn't even have a
Speaker 1: relationship with. I still don't know why he gave me
Speaker 1: that platform, on that opportunity, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That shot like that because I didn't even have a
Speaker 1: relationship to tell you the truth, Um, it felt like
Speaker 1: he was meant to be. Like you know how some
Speaker 1: certain things don't feel You didn't feel no kind of way.
Speaker 1: I actually did not word when he was like he
Speaker 1: was just in the moment, he was like my man's
Speaker 1: gonna rhyme. And I think they called him sport. I
Speaker 1: didn't even call you fave at the time, and I
Speaker 1: was like, no problem, and I did. And then and
Speaker 1: when I seen that they made him the forefront of
Speaker 1: desert storm, like he went from like being like you know,
Speaker 1: the artists that they was thinking about to the and
Speaker 1: that that ship like me, like I love to be
Speaker 1: be a hot part of hip hop history. You understand
Speaker 1: saying I can pay a little part, like a tiny
Speaker 1: part of that ship. And you know I play a
Speaker 1: tiny part of Farrell's career like like that say, because
Speaker 1: you know the world recognized his talent. You don't take
Speaker 1: away from his talent, not taking away from his town,
Speaker 1: but you held the world recognized Like that moment for
Speaker 1: you in the station, that was a moment. That was
Speaker 1: a moment that changed things. Yes, because I always wanted
Speaker 1: to know how he felt about that because I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know if Clue even mentioned it
Speaker 1: to him that he was gonna do it or like
Speaker 1: even when I started rapping and rapping back and forth.
Speaker 1: But he's at this point, you know, accomplished and did
Speaker 1: doing his thing, and even him going back to the
Speaker 1: hood is little man that you have told you to
Speaker 1: take me up, but that did happen. And gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: yall relationships seem organic from the beginning. So even though
Speaker 1: he told me he didn't say that, just meant he said,
Speaker 1: my man, but it felt it felt it felt but
Speaker 1: he didn't claim but it felt it felt, it felt good.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, so so let's let me I'm
Speaker 1: jumping around a little bit. I remember one of your
Speaker 1: first singles was with Nate Dog and this was like
Speaker 1: right after like the East Coast West Coast Ship was
Speaker 1: like drawing like and you was like you not only
Speaker 1: did did the song, but you actually went to Cali
Speaker 1: and filmed the video. No, no, no, you okay because
Speaker 1: the Little Riders maybe maybe ain't crazy. No, she was
Speaker 1: just patching back together. That was one of the illest
Speaker 1: parts about that record, because I don't think before that time.
Speaker 1: It was a little gap in between. Yes it was,
Speaker 1: And I didn't even know that I really was doing
Speaker 1: that until it happened, and I was like, damn, like,
Speaker 1: you know, niggas haven't been working with each other like
Speaker 1: that since the vig and pop shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So this was kind of like that could
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if Nate I thought that
Speaker 1: deep into it too. The kid who produced it was
Speaker 1: from the Bay and then they jumped on it, and
Speaker 1: then you know, I made it my first single, and
Speaker 1: then people kind of connected the dots and that, like
Speaker 1: I we didn't. I didn't see it. I know. I
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't looking at it like you're just gonna bring
Speaker 1: the least in the West. I wouldn't even lie. It
Speaker 1: actually did in a certain way because it was like, um,
Speaker 1: you coming out being the new hot kids and interscope
Speaker 1: at the time, right I was on Electric Electric, Okay,
Speaker 1: Elector and with the number one DJ which is Clue
Speaker 1: and then this is the guy who's a legend, and
Speaker 1: so it did in a way, but it was it
Speaker 1: was funny at first. I remember industry people like how
Speaker 1: flex right there? Well in cruise the world, no one
Speaker 1: was hotter than Clue. In the mixtape world. At one point,
Speaker 1: no one was hotter than Clue. But what I gotta
Speaker 1: give Flex is no one has ever really touched Flex
Speaker 1: on that radio, like throwing a party on the radio,
Speaker 1: like just your New York City stopped, like you haven't
Speaker 1: heard Flex pulling over, pull over, like like he's like,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold over, motherfucker, I'm going over and he'll
Speaker 1: drop a ball like I'm into that ship. You know
Speaker 1: when Drake and Meek had had had had the ship
Speaker 1: and Flex said I got the Meek record. You know,
Speaker 1: I missed my flight that night because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to hear it. I didn't I'm so much as a
Speaker 1: fan of like the hip hop ship. I was like,
Speaker 1: I looked at by and I didn't want to miss
Speaker 1: it's coming out. It's my it's my uncle's birthday. So
Speaker 1: I go to my uncle's trib. My uncle dude, you know,
Speaker 1: chill vibes bombing you at the crib, But it's more
Speaker 1: like a you gotta you can't be on your phone
Speaker 1: and chicken and you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: more like just kicking it with your uncle and and
Speaker 1: really fucking with him, have a drink, smoke whatever. So
Speaker 1: I'm doing that and then somebody texts me like, Yo,
Speaker 1: they're about to do the Meek record. I'm like, wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: I gotta hear this. I'm trying to really engage. I'm
Speaker 1: talking deep little kids ship yo cold. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out way I want to go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: with a bathroom that you know you can put up
Speaker 1: on your phone too. I'm trying to really get that.
Speaker 1: But I really had to just sunk, and then I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to I didn't get to check it
Speaker 1: out until I got in the car. And now. But
Speaker 1: the whole time I'm sitting there on he talking to me,
Speaker 1: I ain't even listening to I'm like, damn, I gotta
Speaker 1: hear this. I'm talking about the night FLEXI bluff. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the night that Flex didn't have he did.
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, you don't remember that night, Reflex
Speaker 1: he did pull up. This is why I don't know
Speaker 1: if I was supposed to say this from Flex, but
Speaker 1: this is why I fucking fun with funk Master Flex. Right,
Speaker 1: So I I just missed my flight that day, right,
Speaker 1: so I get on the next flight in the morning.
Speaker 1: But I get some records and I get it mixed,
Speaker 1: and I called Flex, and I'm not gonna flex cause
Speaker 1: I know the whole New York City is gonna be
Speaker 1: tuned in. So look, play one of my joints while
Speaker 1: you're playing in between these war records or whatever. So
Speaker 1: Flex goes to me, I'm sorry if I was supposed
Speaker 1: to say this, Flex. The Flex goes to me to
Speaker 1: know me, how I look out there, and I go
Speaker 1: because I'm trying not to say, but you look, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like you had me missed my flight,
Speaker 1: like you should have said, I don't have to record
Speaker 1: at some point. But anyway, I'm trying to avoid it.
Speaker 1: And Flex is like, how I look out there? And
Speaker 1: I said, what you mean? He's like, glory, I know
Speaker 1: you know. And I said, now you look a little crazy.
Speaker 1: He said. I was like, maybe he was baking like
Speaker 1: a biscuit. Maybe you're baking like he said, I know
Speaker 1: I was because I didn't come outside the whole day.
Speaker 1: And I opened the door for one person and it
Speaker 1: was the ups man and the U yes man. Look
Speaker 1: this story with me. He's here. Rop Knight ain't it.
Speaker 1: That's it, yo, that should have me. But you know
Speaker 1: what it is, Flex takes his losses with his wins
Speaker 1: the same way, and most people don't do that. Most
Speaker 1: people lose and want to just you know, throw away.
Speaker 1: But sorry, we're jumping all over the place. But Takasi
Speaker 1: six nine, he got two hund grand for you. He
Speaker 1: wants to do a record for you. Right now, Fabulous
Speaker 1: is doing it. Let's take a shot to that. Let's
Speaker 1: take a shot to that salute. But I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you who's gonna work with Takaci six nine. That's who's
Speaker 1: gonna sucking up, because it's gonna be all of us,
Speaker 1: just like Gucci. I got the memo that we was
Speaker 1: boycott and Guchi the b D Awards. Did did you
Speaker 1: see that? I'm confused. I didn't say it. I didn't
Speaker 1: see the avoiding be it was Gucci everywhere. So let's
Speaker 1: get back to my point. So you know who's gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. What it is is all of
Speaker 1: us were gonna set a union. We're gonna say we'd
Speaker 1: all right boycotting not boycotting, we just say anything like
Speaker 1: the wrappers, We're gonna say we ain't. But let me
Speaker 1: tell you who's gonna The motherfucking producers. Now, we talked
Speaker 1: about this last night, but this episode is coming out good.
Speaker 1: The producers is gonna be the first. I'm telling the
Speaker 1: producers you think are gonna do it? Okay? What producer
Speaker 1: you think won't do it? I think I think any
Speaker 1: producer that has any name won't do it. I disagree
Speaker 1: with you. I think Farrell's not hell to them standing.
Speaker 1: I don't think Farrell would do it. I think Farrell
Speaker 1: it won't do it if he calls people like me
Speaker 1: it's too much moved. That's another thing too. You know
Speaker 1: you're gonna be some people gonna love that though, but
Speaker 1: it's not people who don't need that. They'll stay with that.
Speaker 1: Farrell don't need, right, he don't need it. I don't
Speaker 1: think Scott starts needed, but it's not like he don't
Speaker 1: need it neither. It's like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the kid is throwing our platinum records. Scott might need it,
Speaker 1: Scott okay, just to get it, just to get it gone.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he I say he would do it,
Speaker 1: but that energy is you gotta look at who who
Speaker 1: needs that energy. I don't think he's held to those standards.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mike Will made it because held to
Speaker 1: Fabulous and Nori and Jay the Kisses standards. He not.
Speaker 1: But it's still if they want that energy, that that
Speaker 1: the negative of the negative side of it is what
Speaker 1: could keep somebody doing it even if they don't have
Speaker 1: that same more. That's what I don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: uh six non personally to have it. But like, I
Speaker 1: just don't like the standard that is said, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you can't do that and
Speaker 1: then come back and it's nah, you do that, You're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna suffer the consequences of what you do.
Speaker 1: But we can't. We can't set that for the for
Speaker 1: our kids. Know I'm saying, right, but the public like
Speaker 1: that's not cool. You know what I'm saying. It's it's
Speaker 1: just you, and it's the way and it's the way
Speaker 1: it came about, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like a civilian. If he was a civilion doing the
Speaker 1: same thing, it would be totally different. But he was
Speaker 1: yelling gang gang doing that, and that shows kids of
Speaker 1: this generation that yeah, you could do that and then
Speaker 1: when it goes left, no repercussions. All right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go right and then I'm gonna come back left and y'all.
Speaker 1: But but isn't it kind of deeper than that? When
Speaker 1: you look at that Will Smith is doing Nicky Bond story,
Speaker 1: Like that's different. I think why the end of it
Speaker 1: is the same and that type of what what's the
Speaker 1: Frank Lucas story that it wasn't the end of the
Speaker 1: same result American American g did he didn't? He talented,
Speaker 1: But I think it's a it's a different round. He
Speaker 1: told on he told on the cops, so he told
Speaker 1: on Frank Luke. I think he told on everybody. I
Speaker 1: think he told on everybody. And to connect supposedly and
Speaker 1: to connect it don't matter. Well, I just think the
Speaker 1: movie game is a whole different things. Just telling the story.
Speaker 1: I guess really like I can't hold them. I guess
Speaker 1: deeply you can hold him because it's like you pushing
Speaker 1: the story for it. But like on the on their side,
Speaker 1: I want to hold Will against Nikki. I would rather
Speaker 1: they do stories on god Fisher, you know, like the
Speaker 1: paiding for should have been more focused on rich As
Speaker 1: opposed to you know, but but guess what our poles
Speaker 1: in star you know what I'm saying. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just a funny world we lived in. Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's that it's the edge, it's the
Speaker 1: entertainment of it. And think about the fabis, think about
Speaker 1: it like this. We're only five percent of people who
Speaker 1: think like this, Like you know what I'm saying, We're
Speaker 1: five percent of people who think that we gotta keep
Speaker 1: it real and we gotta do this. There's so many
Speaker 1: people who that's why the omars from the wire. This
Speaker 1: is way more on Mars now than anything. There's people
Speaker 1: who tell and stay outside and then come right then
Speaker 1: back outside. This this was ain't going to witness protection
Speaker 1: a lone of that that goes into people accepting it. Yea,
Speaker 1: that's what Let's a rat before used to go hot
Speaker 1: in the hole. That's where rats went. They didn't come
Speaker 1: back outside and mixing, mingling. Now you could be lit
Speaker 1: if you still got money. People except that you're here rap.
Speaker 1: But he got that bread, he got that bag. That's
Speaker 1: a difference than what's going on today. Right before I
Speaker 1: had to go move somewhere, he had to you know,
Speaker 1: when they can see him, they threw chase them whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, even if it was a
Speaker 1: tattle tell, and then when you grow up, you being
Speaker 1: a tattle tell was wrong And it's all the social
Speaker 1: media ship because it's fame at all. Cars. So we
Speaker 1: just interviewed Troy a right, and we got a couple
Speaker 1: of us slack about that. Do you think we wasn't
Speaker 1: Do you think we sucked up? We think we shouldn't
Speaker 1: interview Troyer. I don't know, and I know Troy, I
Speaker 1: don't know the full like I lost connection and track
Speaker 1: of where that we all because people living our own world,
Speaker 1: you know where it's. So it's hard for me to
Speaker 1: say if it was right or wrong because I don't
Speaker 1: know what he did to say it was wrong. Well,
Speaker 1: he didn't do it yet, but he did say he's
Speaker 1: gonna do it because he said he's gonna know what
Speaker 1: tell He's gonna he's gonna I don't know if he
Speaker 1: said that story. He said he's gonna solid story. It
Speaker 1: was gonna his And he feels like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, a person said, if he gave a
Speaker 1: person a platform for that, we want and if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong as a man or you know, I
Speaker 1: apologize whatever, right, But what I'm saying is he hasn't
Speaker 1: told yet. Come on, drain you all right, Jesus ross
Speaker 1: the wild wine. But he hasn't told told. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, he in his mind thinks
Speaker 1: that tax Stone So this is what he this is
Speaker 1: is from his mouth. He in his mind thinks that
Speaker 1: tax Stone told on him. So why the funk He's
Speaker 1: not gonna say say what he did to him back? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess the tax moster. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he told or not too. But it is
Speaker 1: video for the yeah yeah incident, so that kind of
Speaker 1: tells on you. Yeah yeah. But I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't know that much of the situation.
Speaker 1: You know, I know Troy Um actually was like really
Speaker 1: cool with Troy for for a minute. It just got
Speaker 1: so crazy. You know what I'm saying that I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Yeah, my queen's nick. I chose
Speaker 1: to move move out of there. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be involved with it. But I'm a Brooklyn nigga, and
Speaker 1: you don't want to be involved right going on here. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: but you know we see slap for it. If and
Speaker 1: if we were out of line for giving a person
Speaker 1: a platform, then you know, I'm a man at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Like and I heard some people
Speaker 1: say that, well, they would have been mad if like
Speaker 1: like they would have implicated the Hot ninety seven and
Speaker 1: ship like when we had the Hot ninety seven ship.
Speaker 1: And that's and I don't understand that. I also agree
Speaker 1: with that because I would have felt something. But here's
Speaker 1: here's a difference. There was no paper trials other than
Speaker 1: Little Kim and Foxy Brown. There is no Junior Mafia
Speaker 1: disk record towards Noriega. There is no Noriega record this
Speaker 1: towards you. There's nothing like, there's no there's no nothing.
Speaker 1: There was no blogs made about me against them and
Speaker 1: them against us. So when this ship happened, and it
Speaker 1: was easy to just get it away because there wasn't lines,
Speaker 1: It wasn't in the public's eye. It was just that incident.
Speaker 1: There was in the public eye the actual drama or
Speaker 1: whatever was behind We both shut our mouth. So you
Speaker 1: can't relate that to that because it's two different instances.
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. Like I said, if
Speaker 1: I did a platform or you know, I Apologizma before
Speaker 1: that incident. Absolutely incident. Oh you said about taxing Troy. No, no,
Speaker 1: it was just it was it was just a moment. No,
Speaker 1: it was it was Little Kim had by a Storm.
Speaker 1: Big up to Little Kim. She's um her new album
Speaker 1: not who knew, I'm not and me and hers cool
Speaker 1: now too, which is which is good? Great ship, Oh ship,
Speaker 1: We'll get to that late. But so Kim had was
Speaker 1: on Quiet starm Yeah, do say right here, maybe we
Speaker 1: got the x SO and we got the regular one
Speaker 1: right there for a couple of you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: let's let let's let the whole No, maybe here baby,
Speaker 1: we are here so anyway, anyway, anyway, so um Kim
Speaker 1: did Quiet Storm. Ironically, this is why I never knew
Speaker 1: why this was ever be ever. Alchemist produced Bang Bang,
Speaker 1: that small deep producer. That's why if anybody don't know,
Speaker 1: Alchemists recommended that, Oh those are the two records, why
Speaker 1: Storm and Bang Bang. I was on Bang Bang. Al
Speaker 1: Chemists recommended we put a girl on there. You understand,
Speaker 1: this is this is mar This is why I never
Speaker 1: knew that's deep. Never took a person forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Deep never took a personal It was just recorded that
Speaker 1: he remember when you showed it to me. The part
Speaker 1: were the fact that are you showing to me? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. But we didn't record it in the
Speaker 1: hit factory though, because Foxy visit. That's what New York ship.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so Alchemists recommends we get a girl. Obviously
Speaker 1: there's only two girls in New York City at the time.
Speaker 1: Kim already on people who who considered our competition Marv
Speaker 1: d obviously, and Foxy was it was cool, like, that's
Speaker 1: that's not my sister. I felt like that at the time,
Speaker 1: still do a little bit, um, but but I've tried
Speaker 1: to feel more. But she just kiss me the away.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't see that one day, all right, but
Speaker 1: let's let's move on. But but anyway, uh so she
Speaker 1: uh so, the Fox does it and then that was it.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I guess they took it personal because
Speaker 1: we let Fox say what what what she wanted and well,
Speaker 1: Kim would definitely think it that personal. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: whoever recorded, I guess you kind of a phil ate
Speaker 1: them because y'all was dead y'all had it. See, I
Speaker 1: didn't look at it like that. That's how it goes.
Speaker 1: So something you're telling me and might jump on a
Speaker 1: song and did somebody in song you're gonna Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was still spying. You come back to spray to corner.
Speaker 1: You ain't saying you all y'all niggers. You say spray
Speaker 1: to the corner. So you're saying if I get on
Speaker 1: your record and I are out, that's just somebody that
Speaker 1: I'm cool with, or I would be like, yo, that's
Speaker 1: my man, Like you can't do that on my Like
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing. But if I not cool with huh,
Speaker 1: you're not cool with it, you let it come out
Speaker 1: and I'll let it come out. Then I would. I
Speaker 1: would also except that he felt away that I put
Speaker 1: that out on You know what I'm saying telling you,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I'm riding like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of you. You're going you're going to do something.
Speaker 1: I jump in the car, which you right over there?
Speaker 1: You do it? Didn't say yeah you really may. You're
Speaker 1: bucking me up right now. It need anything when they're
Speaker 1: going along with it, you got you got the notion
Speaker 1: and say nine when when when Tray said let me
Speaker 1: out though he got out the car, he knew nigga
Speaker 1: to let me know what. I didn't never look at
Speaker 1: it like that. I never did. Never I swear you
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm naive to that, Like I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Like I thought. I thought, like if we're all cool
Speaker 1: and this guy, is you out all my record or
Speaker 1: is you out in my interview, you would realize that
Speaker 1: that is just him because I'm gonna I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: something else, like like, for instance, I interview enemies that
Speaker 1: I interview both sides. Sometimes you know, we'll have a
Speaker 1: job rule. I have a fifty, I have a earth,
Speaker 1: and when they bring up each other, I try to
Speaker 1: because that's not funny to me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I kind of try to change the subject, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying because it's not me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I didn't. I didn't what you
Speaker 1: said just now kind of just doing on the type
Speaker 1: of ball kind of sucked me up because I can
Speaker 1: see how people look at that when you interview somebody,
Speaker 1: it looks like a co sign now, but it's really
Speaker 1: not like yea you might not be in that space,
Speaker 1: but how people perceive things, it's always different than what
Speaker 1: you're intended, you know what I'm saying. So that's how
Speaker 1: you know you could be doing something out of the
Speaker 1: kindness of your heart somebody else and they say, or
Speaker 1: that nig a cloud chasing he trying to you know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to do this. Or you know when people
Speaker 1: go give money to the homeless and they tape it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, it's two sides. You it's
Speaker 1: giving them some money, but also why you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So I have to speak like Jesus man,
Speaker 1: like just thinking powerful, you're just thinking that metaphors and
Speaker 1: talking good is good man. So okay, let's we're gonna
Speaker 1: move around. We're gonna move around. That's Michael Bone stronger
Speaker 1: than the Yes you Got Joker t shirts. So I
Speaker 1: heard y'all be killing her life. You'll be killing her.
Speaker 1: Was originally for um the Girl from the View Lenny
Speaker 1: S Girl, Adrian, Adrian, I'm so sorry, Adrian. That was
Speaker 1: her song, heard that that was her beat or her
Speaker 1: song and Lenny S like I played it for her,
Speaker 1: she loved it, but he played it for you. You
Speaker 1: never heard this story before. I've never heard that. Yahneak,
Speaker 1: you know sneaky. You know who sneaky called me about
Speaker 1: that record? Kid Cutty, What's that's the same way I
Speaker 1: around face? I'm like, your fab I did that joint
Speaker 1: with Ryan Leslie. I ain't got my credit on my money,
Speaker 1: Cutty bro oh on my line was just like he
Speaker 1: was production. He was, That's what he was trying to imply.
Speaker 1: So I guess he chakes down and found my number
Speaker 1: or something and hit me up and was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to have credit or money or something. Why
Speaker 1: would you hit Ryan Leslie. That's what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax, get you blocked it everything follow you. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: My god, I don't even know why you're calling me.
Speaker 1: It's not even my cold. H It's clear. It's clearly clear.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go on stage right now. I made
Speaker 1: it better you and also, um, you make me better.
Speaker 1: That was Holes record. Yeah, I think they made it
Speaker 1: for whole, but I think it was too girly for Hole.
Speaker 1: So he makes some girly records. Now here's another sneaky
Speaker 1: thing behind that. Because I'll get it out. Let's go
Speaker 1: Eve had the record, Yeah, made the joint and she
Speaker 1: had a whole different make me better for Eve, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure up that fifth it was it wasn't make
Speaker 1: me better, it was make me better. It wasn't with
Speaker 1: the hooking. She has a whole another song. She had
Speaker 1: to beat from Timberland and she made a whole different
Speaker 1: song to it. So when we're about to put it out,
Speaker 1: we found Timerland, like, hold up, I think I get
Speaker 1: that beat the Eve Eve got. We're like what so
Speaker 1: we hit Eva. But she was cool while she said
Speaker 1: she said truthfully like it's it was a single for us,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a goal. But for her
Speaker 1: she said it was like an album that she really
Speaker 1: and she just you know. We went to dinner and
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, y'all had a record and it's
Speaker 1: all good. I was like, m a new single right now,
Speaker 1: that's my catalog. Wouldn't make me better? And if now
Speaker 1: you need it, that damn that's like was not good man,
Speaker 1: that's a special brew. But the new single right now
Speaker 1: very uh acrobeatish international, international. What makes you want to
Speaker 1: go there? Because you can let me stop because you
Speaker 1: have a format. This is this is It was in
Speaker 1: line with that, but you have a formative It's like
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what I'm saying, like a certain thing,
Speaker 1: this one is like huge, this is different. This is
Speaker 1: different for me as a fat fan. That's what it
Speaker 1: really was about, to just really going different. Because if
Speaker 1: I would have came back with any record that's the
Speaker 1: usual what I even if it was breathed or it
Speaker 1: was make me better stop or like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like anything in that vein Uptown val anything
Speaker 1: in that would have you already, it wouldn't have made
Speaker 1: the same like m hmm right, let me you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I want to I want your eyebrows
Speaker 1: to twist up a little bit like it was. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's where and it like
Speaker 1: how you just said we're moving on on out of country.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's time to move on. He was in
Speaker 1: Kate Berdie. Yeah, we went to we went to Africa.
Speaker 1: I thought Kate Birdie was in Boston. Come on, come on,
Speaker 1: you know what you know what I'm paying. You know
Speaker 1: doesn't want the Kate Bertie. Yeah, you know I'm played around, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because all the Kate Burdies. But I've never seen somebody
Speaker 1: going to Kate Verdie. I was like a lot of
Speaker 1: the reasons I wanted to go there. Showed up the
Speaker 1: ankle bracelet too. That that was. But what made you
Speaker 1: go that's Black Sands. That's where you know. We gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta touch it different. And you got
Speaker 1: the opportunity too. You got the you know, we got
Speaker 1: the label money. So we're going over on the major's
Speaker 1: let's pay some money for be on the major. This
Speaker 1: is this is Fabris one. Let me tell yourself. Fab
Speaker 1: is one of them smart niggers. Everyone else tried to
Speaker 1: go independent. That's your personal Listen. He made the right
Speaker 1: choice staying with the major. Do not let these niggas
Speaker 1: you leave it. This guy's the only major dependent game
Speaker 1: for there. Not like it, fat fat. He likes to
Speaker 1: play the same rules. I like. When you're pulling up
Speaker 1: in the spratountain. It's a fucking beautiful thing. Pull up
Speaker 1: when you know, man independent, you gotta bunch it, you
Speaker 1: gotta watch, you gotta you gotta be responsible. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't wonder who want to be responsible? Make it lay
Speaker 1: independent making some money some of the YouTube, but all
Speaker 1: not on YouTube. Bro, do not bank on YouTube, but
Speaker 1: don't bank on there. It's not other kids. I can't
Speaker 1: bank on YouTube. That's the new names. Noon Nimes can
Speaker 1: make money for YouTube. We seasoned. You know. You know
Speaker 1: what I have to notice about you though I'm probably like,
Speaker 1: I'm forty two. I don't know how I'm forty one.
Speaker 1: But you know what I noticed people think i'm nine
Speaker 1: hundred HU because you know why I've been I've been
Speaker 1: out since ninety seven. I don't know I'm seven to
Speaker 1: you happy since ninety eight. I'm nick I have but
Speaker 1: and they look at family nineteen and they look at
Speaker 1: me like I've got your beard. I'll be like, they'd
Speaker 1: be like, because in your day, O G. I'll be
Speaker 1: like your first of all, it's not calling me so
Speaker 1: I called me OG because sometimes they call you O
Speaker 1: G and definitely, but they don't really mean it. They
Speaker 1: just call on you. Oh we gotta reach the between.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell you young niggers. Yeah, yeah, that is
Speaker 1: not always respect fad, But how do you because the
Speaker 1: one thing about you you always seem to to know
Speaker 1: whose next person is. And that's a that's that's a gift,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that was that next
Speaker 1: person want to work with you? Oh? You know y'all
Speaker 1: hanging out in parties. How do you manage to be
Speaker 1: that guy that can balance both worlds? Because you get
Speaker 1: respect from the holes, the naz Is, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the mab peeps to the point noriegas, and
Speaker 1: then you get loved from the new generation too. You
Speaker 1: have a ill balance? How do do do? What do you?
Speaker 1: How do you develop that? I don't even I can't
Speaker 1: even tell you a recipe, But I just think some
Speaker 1: somebody told me that I like bridge the gap between
Speaker 1: the two. Like I might have been, like, I guess
Speaker 1: what you say. We're a senior, junior is in high school,
Speaker 1: and then you have like a sophomore and freshman. You know,
Speaker 1: so if if it's a senior and I'm a junior,
Speaker 1: I'm still in between, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think um Cole just did did a song called middle Child,
Speaker 1: and he said he he little bro and big bro
Speaker 1: all at once, so that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was like, it's like you bridged the gap between
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, between a younger a younger, uh,
Speaker 1: the younger guys and the older guys too. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's no way that I could say that I landed
Speaker 1: or it's a certain way to do good. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it's just something that just came with me. And
Speaker 1: and I respect, like you said, what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: all of you, I respect, you know, except for them
Speaker 1: calling you o G and trying to call you old.
Speaker 1: I respect all of the young shows like you know, misrespect,
Speaker 1: But it's for you. I tell them my congratulations out
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you know, it's niggers,
Speaker 1: you know. And even in our time, we would see
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't even say nothing to you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I used to be an elevators with
Speaker 1: hold hold don't speak, you know. I just hope that's that.
Speaker 1: In New York it was definitely more Brooklyn Brooklyn, but
Speaker 1: it was like I'm not you know, when I came in,
Speaker 1: they were still trying to be the guy. So they
Speaker 1: wasn't giving you the you know, the like. Then I
Speaker 1: had to fight, not really fight against them, but like
Speaker 1: I had to prove myself, I'm not going to a
Speaker 1: lot of people really in our generation didn't pass down
Speaker 1: the torch like they didn't none they really didn't like
Speaker 1: unless it was their man that they had signed and
Speaker 1: got everybody. You know, you're just right under the Rocket
Speaker 1: Feller treat. And then the crazy thing is people like that,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the old school dudes, you should
Speaker 1: never give me love. Be like I'm talking about original.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say when I was number one.
Speaker 1: When I was, they was looking at me like I
Speaker 1: was a commercial dude, and I was like it would
Speaker 1: be like, like it doesn't matterly if I would have
Speaker 1: a commercial record like my heart ist pure, I'm hip hop,
Speaker 1: and they would and now they love me again. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because like with dream Camps represents
Speaker 1: and all this grade ship. But I'm being honest, he's
Speaker 1: he's keeping it real. Was a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: that when you come up, you're dead in their money.
Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying, like you say that the passing
Speaker 1: the torture is that I think niggas still was so
Speaker 1: young that it wasn't no you know, it wasn't no path.
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to be the nigga. I'm still trying
Speaker 1: to be the man. I'm gonna give you the twy
Speaker 1: at now when you're forty or forty five or fifty
Speaker 1: or whatever you is ready to like because you ain't
Speaker 1: even playing in that same feel anymore. If and I'm one,
Speaker 1: we still it is kind of in the same field. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to where you at, and you
Speaker 1: know that I'm trying to get to where you at.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So you kind of like
Speaker 1: giving you the stiff on the iceman a little bit
Speaker 1: because you but you don't even gotta pass torches anymore. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm the saying the way the game is now like
Speaker 1: everybody has their own lane. Like before there was like
Speaker 1: the labels the gate Kid, but that's because it was
Speaker 1: but who you knew, didn't somebody stamp you in? But
Speaker 1: now was like passing the torch now is like fab
Speaker 1: doing the record with Pop Smoke. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: not the record that doing it just with Drake or
Speaker 1: can you the was you know what I'm saying, When
Speaker 1: they when they Drake Hop doing it with or the
Speaker 1: newer artist Hop. No, but when he did it with Drake. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I thought you made Now Okay, you've been
Speaker 1: back there. You did that first that was a that's
Speaker 1: a stand for drake, that's you're right, I got a
Speaker 1: whole verse. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Niggas want
Speaker 1: whole versus right now, and you don't. You don't think
Speaker 1: there's a different forty want or over, a difference between
Speaker 1: passing the torch and passing down like the history of
Speaker 1: the culture. Like to a certain extent, I said this before,
Speaker 1: and I hold up before you said because when you
Speaker 1: were saying, like in the nineties or whatever, love but regardless,
Speaker 1: everybody in the nineties was still talking and showing love
Speaker 1: to the older cats. So younger cats growing up in
Speaker 1: in person no in music, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But
Speaker 1: behind the scenes it was because when you were early
Speaker 1: nineties kid, growing up wasn't cool. You're listening to the artists.
Speaker 1: We're talking about all kinds of ship that we didn't
Speaker 1: grow over. It wasn't our was always motherfucking coolest dude.
Speaker 1: He never looked at like certain of these other older dudes.
Speaker 1: They looked at me like I owed him something like.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm making myself clear, but they
Speaker 1: look like and not only I owe themselves, they looked
Speaker 1: like I was supposed to go like this, we're not
Speaker 1: seeing them, and in my mind I'm doing that. But
Speaker 1: I'm giving yo something. I dude, yo, man yo, I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of it. Like if I see how
Speaker 1: you're saying, that's why you wouldn't talk about it anymore
Speaker 1: on record, talking about what that's what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: your bipass. What I'm saying. People stopped talking about the
Speaker 1: history of the culture and records in the eighties early nineties.
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about the Hurts, the Grandmaster Flashes, the clubs,
Speaker 1: that there was all the old soup, the history. So
Speaker 1: we thought that ship was cool, even though that wasn't
Speaker 1: our generation. You're right, but picture how hard it is
Speaker 1: for me and fab saying, like if I was to
Speaker 1: go into to a record, I'm not big enough these
Speaker 1: old niggas, not because the old or whatever, because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to relate to the younger generation too. Yeah, you generation,
Speaker 1: I can't talk to you about cool herd. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: generation don't even know who that is. But you could
Speaker 1: talk about the generation a couple of years before that.
Speaker 1: You were that you kind of grew up inspire. You
Speaker 1: could talk like j Z. Yeah, something like that came
Speaker 1: in Kane wasn't so you would never talk about him
Speaker 1: at all. No. I talked about him in my experience,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to talk about him in raps
Speaker 1: like you don't expect the people to grab I came
Speaker 1: out in in eight canes and the cane's actually window
Speaker 1: was what. The only thing I'm saying is this laptop
Speaker 1: googles in eight nine And if you if you would
Speaker 1: say that the verse is what I'm The only thing
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is if you would say to
Speaker 1: the verse, it would make a young cat say Kane,
Speaker 1: if he? If he, who then is can I think
Speaker 1: him saying that? I think him saying that, you know
Speaker 1: it's the same. Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely agree with that. I
Speaker 1: agree with that. That's not show them back. They're going
Speaker 1: old way. That's the difference in the world. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: forwards needs back as well. Like we all we were
Speaker 1: all standing on a foundation or something that we're going
Speaker 1: back to VCRs. It's not that we're going back to
Speaker 1: We're going forward to where you're not even gonna need
Speaker 1: nothing to play now or what I'm saying. Like the
Speaker 1: kids and they're growing up into that, so they're not
Speaker 1: going to go back. They don't want to go back.
Speaker 1: The only thing they want to see is the future.
Speaker 1: You got to show them something that's that they don't
Speaker 1: that's that's coming. That's why you can't even you know,
Speaker 1: you put out an album. Now, you can't promote an
Speaker 1: album for three six months anymore. No, they don't want
Speaker 1: to even wake that you're doing. Yeah, but everybody's got
Speaker 1: beyont though everybody's everybody's not everybody to be dropping a night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but some people be trying it that. You might be honest,
Speaker 1: but it's the game and nigga's nigga. You are not
Speaker 1: no disrespect your your base just got to be solid
Speaker 1: enough to do that. Yeah, you can't just jump out
Speaker 1: there and just say I'm dropping the night, but I
Speaker 1: gotta go to work them all, not like the basis
Speaker 1: like that they're not checking in attilatively. You got an
Speaker 1: October day or no, because this is about come out
Speaker 1: in November the first week. So because Summertimes Shooting says
Speaker 1: this is where we are sometimes shoot out three three
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking fall, have you see? This is what
Speaker 1: this was. The thing was behind that Summertimes Shootout was
Speaker 1: never about making summer music. It was about coming out
Speaker 1: of summer. Now you either recapping your summer, you're looking
Speaker 1: at the summer to come, like you say you work
Speaker 1: out when you say you're gett a summer body, you
Speaker 1: work out in the window. The good of summing about
Speaker 1: any bore like and you recapping the the summer you
Speaker 1: you might be in September like yo. That was that
Speaker 1: was that was an ill summer right there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's what the projects were. They
Speaker 1: were really like recaps on the summer you just have
Speaker 1: or you know, thinking forward to the summer about to come.
Speaker 1: I never I never really did press about them because
Speaker 1: they were mixtapes, but so people never got it. They
Speaker 1: just seemed the world summertime and just thought it's like
Speaker 1: summer music, you know what I mean. But mixtape albums
Speaker 1: now not Now I think it's blending and it's it's
Speaker 1: digested through the same way through through digital platforms and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There was a time where
Speaker 1: you know, it was that piff and it was even
Speaker 1: the streets it was that was a different mixtape lane
Speaker 1: how people got music. It was almost like underground. It was,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's not undergrounding the production
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a difference. Though, you don't think the production
Speaker 1: is different too, because like once Kendrick and Drake started
Speaker 1: making mixtapes, there they was, there were bodies of world
Speaker 1: original paction. You know, we was doing We was doing
Speaker 1: free mixtape remixing R and B joints. We was literally people,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You didn't have to clear anything.
Speaker 1: Whereas you know once Kendrick put section eighty and you
Speaker 1: know the Drakes so far gone, those are those are
Speaker 1: different type of you know they classify them in the
Speaker 1: mixtape lame, but it was just a different different way
Speaker 1: they did it. What what what? What? Uh? What's fab?
Speaker 1: Is fab? Gonna put it on an artist's fab going up?
Speaker 1: I want to look to do that. I think that's
Speaker 1: only right. If you you come through the door, you
Speaker 1: hold a doorp and for somebody else, especially if you
Speaker 1: see him coming. I ain't saying you post the whole
Speaker 1: the door for somebody or block away. You have ever
Speaker 1: held that thega take it mad long like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. As the door one time when they
Speaker 1: stopped down and win and tie the ship like this,
Speaker 1: I saw that whole sta is like that's what you're
Speaker 1: doing that butt, But you know what I mean, you
Speaker 1: hold a doping for somebody like that's that's that's like
Speaker 1: one of the accomplishments because it's it's not even just
Speaker 1: for you. You're doing something for somebody else, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you get the feeling for that,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, I and everybody I think,
Speaker 1: and not only just you doing for somebody else. Sometimes
Speaker 1: if it's signed to you or doing it, it can
Speaker 1: progong your career and can take you to a new
Speaker 1: place because it's like, I'm so sorry. I think it
Speaker 1: did that for Wayne. I think I think Gucci Man
Speaker 1: is one of the goats where you didn't let a
Speaker 1: lot of them go all over that. But we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know what that business consists of. I'm not
Speaker 1: don't I'm not saying that he didn't do business something
Speaker 1: to just know that you don't look at all of
Speaker 1: those people like it's a tree down there and he's
Speaker 1: can he's the root of the tree and a lot
Speaker 1: of them came from I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I thought about it the other day, and I think
Speaker 1: Gucci Man might be one of the greatest of all
Speaker 1: times from my land, as far as business, as far
Speaker 1: as how Selim and I just looked at it. I
Speaker 1: was just like rebranding it, rebrand one part. One time,
Speaker 1: his brand was ice cream corner his face. Now he's
Speaker 1: back with a whole different Did he get I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know looking at him, I got it, took it away.
Speaker 1: It might be they still that you're looking at everything
Speaker 1: else he made it Forget about that. I see what
Speaker 1: chan online. You know you got crazy. You ain't even
Speaker 1: see see ice cream or your face and crazy chacking on.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all of that is rebranding is ill,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Why do you still love
Speaker 1: the game? Because I can tell you still love the game.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna actually do you still love the game?
Speaker 1: He said? Why am I? No? I do love it? Okay,
Speaker 1: I love why because it comes to a certain extent
Speaker 1: where all life becomes repetitive, meaning we'll get another hit record,
Speaker 1: get another tour, or get another sentence set, and like
Speaker 1: you have to do something to upgrade. Like I've been
Speaker 1: in this game twenty years, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I've done the same thing over and over for
Speaker 1: twenty years, and at some point I stopped having a
Speaker 1: love for it like I did. Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I can't say that to you. I'm asking you, why
Speaker 1: do you why do you still have the amount of
Speaker 1: love that you have for the game. Um, I think
Speaker 1: my passion is so connected to it as a creative
Speaker 1: like a lot of the whole process of creating me
Speaker 1: me saying something and play it back for you and
Speaker 1: the kid behind you, like, oh, like I get I
Speaker 1: get energy. All of that that that makes me feel good,
Speaker 1: Just the creative part of it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: and then all the other ship, the business or you know,
Speaker 1: those are the things that can help you fall out
Speaker 1: of love with it because that's not what you ever
Speaker 1: loved from the beginning. So once that becomes more than
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you gotta chase the bag.
Speaker 1: But are you and Clue still to like together? We're still, dude,
Speaker 1: We're still good. We're still I'm surprised you have like
Speaker 1: a damn dad big momi. Oh yeah, did have it?
Speaker 1: Like just just Clue is a hard friend friends and
Speaker 1: hard rap I got a hard friends. Ye, he's a
Speaker 1: hard friend, not even because he's not a bad dude.
Speaker 1: It's just like he just Clue. He and his world
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, Like he don't have
Speaker 1: one thing about Clue. I would say, he don't have
Speaker 1: no loss in the it's hard real ship less. Maybe
Speaker 1: like he was gonna leave your song or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew him then. I knew him there he was
Speaker 1: on that time. But other than that, he not like Clue.
Speaker 1: You can leave a hundred thousand in front of him
Speaker 1: and go walking about. You know, he's been rich. He'd
Speaker 1: been rich for a long time, what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: you gotta have to beef because you were down with
Speaker 1: Clue and Hot seven trying the front of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit. What I and my flex relationship at
Speaker 1: one time had got a little weird too. In case
Speaker 1: like case leg, I feel it's it's smoothed out of course,
Speaker 1: you know, over time and you know, but especially when
Speaker 1: Clues thing, it never got to like they felt. But
Speaker 1: they knew that that's my man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I guess they're like, you know, you can't play
Speaker 1: it too close because that's my man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I wasn't and their their beasts wasn't never
Speaker 1: Like to me, it wasn't like a street beef or anything.
Speaker 1: It's just a competition beef. You know, y'all in the
Speaker 1: same thing, y'all aiming for the same position, and y'all
Speaker 1: haven't you know competition. It wasn't friendly. It was you know,
Speaker 1: ny just talking about each other. And you know, but
Speaker 1: I never I never seen those two people where they
Speaker 1: would have seen each other. No, no, no, never. But
Speaker 1: but I see the station's competing so much, like like
Speaker 1: like when I see Mvy hangout with comin on now,
Speaker 1: I'll be like god class because they were act like
Speaker 1: bloods and crips at one point, like like like like yo,
Speaker 1: you can't I sknew Envy in flex I never knew
Speaker 1: Camillo in flex At Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Camillo and Camilo Envy. Excuse no, it's not that they
Speaker 1: have beef. It's just that stations, stations they were they
Speaker 1: were committed. They couldn't do the same party. And the
Speaker 1: thing is that fucked me up, Like you know, like
Speaker 1: I'm a Latino, Like honestly, I used being Latino so
Speaker 1: and I used being black too. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you gotta start being more Dominican. I'm talking out. Just
Speaker 1: stick to what I know. No, no, I'm taking Spanish classes. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm also a Puerto Rican who speak and I ne're
Speaker 1: just sparing this album so a lot I'm out of.
Speaker 1: But but I just never too late for two years old.
Speaker 1: Every who's been in our Spanish classes, so far as
Speaker 1: you come, make some noise to beeping to my friends,
Speaker 1: were gonna take boards boards like I don't speak, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you're speaking when you speak English. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna have you teach me Spanish. But so it's
Speaker 1: never too late. But fathom tell me you gotta start
Speaker 1: saying you Dominican, because I see interviews with you and
Speaker 1: you say my father's Dominican, and it hurts Dominicans if
Speaker 1: we don't like that. I love Dominican, love Dominican. You
Speaker 1: gotta say I'm Dominican. This is what you gotta say.
Speaker 1: That's it, that's what change you're like. That was some
Speaker 1: six nine shot right there. Keep that ship going because
Speaker 1: it just gets out here like it spreads like you
Speaker 1: just brought him up a little b and then you
Speaker 1: just came back and just brought something like No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying you got this, d just do that? When
Speaker 1: when did you do? Know? How when did you get that?
Speaker 1: Saw an interview and there someone actually he said yes,
Speaker 1: my father Dominican. And the thing is, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta say no. I'm man, and I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1: Don't have so many blocks following you. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something. The Menneicans is emotional loyalist. And I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to fix everything, and yet all of
Speaker 1: my I went to gotta get us like he's gonna
Speaker 1: try to fix my pool and get us me too.
Speaker 1: Don't listen, don't get American me too. Listens listen. If
Speaker 1: you get mixed black and Puerto Rican, it makes it
Speaker 1: Dominican anyway. Don't worry about don't worry about it. But
Speaker 1: I have my friends failed right, have my friend feel
Speaker 1: he's Dominican guy. Domericans like Pauls and let to take
Speaker 1: care of their friends. So I'm like, I'm calling my ship.
Speaker 1: Do you know the ship that's on the bottom of
Speaker 1: your pool? So I'm calling I need to get my
Speaker 1: ship correct. Where's this going? I lack. I'm going to
Speaker 1: fix it. First off, scowl driving on ship. This is
Speaker 1: the thing that went down with no tools long and
Speaker 1: it's like I'm looking at my watch die star, like yeah,
Speaker 1: but what I'm trying to say. He died trying to
Speaker 1: fix my food. He almost sorry, Sorry that came out wrong.
Speaker 1: He kills Everyone looked at me like, we don't know
Speaker 1: this story. You know his place added this whole sex.
Speaker 1: He almost died, but you got so fat. I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest. I gotta infrech your Dominican side. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's a great thing. I promise you. You wanted Dominican speakers.
Speaker 1: He was on the Dominican Twitter for that, like three
Speaker 1: talking Bob. I seen Dominican news letter. They was like
Speaker 1: fabilous own and they were so happy. And then you
Speaker 1: haven't really wrapped from there. So I'm just I was in.
Speaker 1: I was in the Midican problem and everyone's dying, you
Speaker 1: know that where everybody's dying, everyone's dying. I was out there.
Speaker 1: They had a fabulous man. They need I focus really
Speaker 1: get that money. Get that money. Listen and you want
Speaker 1: to spif TV album. You want spif TV album like
Speaker 1: that an album? Is that album? Right? Yeah? Sift? He
Speaker 1: told me he said he said he got weaks right cool? Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: told me because he puts you on the Dominican record.
Speaker 1: He's not even the Dominican records, you know, he's the
Speaker 1: Dominican Yeah. So, um, I think you're oh soon not.
Speaker 1: You know, that's like one of the biggest dudes album.
Speaker 1: He also got proof, but don't worry about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta rise, man. Yeah I said that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I said this, but no, that's not the
Speaker 1: one that's on the record. Yeah it is. Let's let's
Speaker 1: go spip tv. Let's see. Let's see how this works out. Nobody,
Speaker 1: dud dude, dude, he's the biggest false. He's like, he's
Speaker 1: the hugest and you need to stop. Man, stop. Let's
Speaker 1: see what spip TV says. Okay, which one is it?
Speaker 1: What's what's the room that? Dad's all like, he goes
Speaker 1: to the other side. I've seen the video, brother, great
Speaker 1: morning the room. Brother, Let's see a spip TV. Big
Speaker 1: you said you got edited? Try to store it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you get edited into doing that? What moves
Speaker 1: you made that they can make you like? You don't
Speaker 1: ever seen what you can about the man? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know leh cool, he said. He said
Speaker 1: to me what you said when I said, I said,
Speaker 1: you ever seen because I actually didn't see it. I
Speaker 1: have somebody watching for me. Come on now, let the
Speaker 1: fun up, man, clear, he said, you watch that ship
Speaker 1: because I have somebody watch your mom. Man, let's go
Speaker 1: to a commercial break. Let's go break. I know you
Speaker 1: gotta shout out somebody. I want to stay. That's gonna nobody,
Speaker 1: but back to back to the point, you know, break
Speaker 1: that span of side and basically Dominican side. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: because Latin people are serve lay you. I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with you that soon as we know that we know that.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, let me ask, let me ask
Speaker 1: you lose on the fabular song, he texts me back,
Speaker 1: have Dominican part of regain. I can't understand what the
Speaker 1: fuck you eating like like as a dent do Medican
Speaker 1: from my mother and my mother's side. We gotta say it,
Speaker 1: and you gotta give us Domsicans a chance of how
Speaker 1: we feel. We feel like you the number one Dominican
Speaker 1: right in the world. You know that's hard. That's hard.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise with the number one Dominican. Go
Speaker 1: the world. That's hard. That is hard. Latinas will know no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they'll find out that you're Latino. That's a rat. Ye
Speaker 1: had an art. She's to she's she's come on, come on,
Speaker 1: it's Felix's birthday and it's you know, it's going with it,
Speaker 1: like yo, de who the fund is Felix. She's like
Speaker 1: the cat will be calling to celebrate brother, to celebrate
Speaker 1: the philis the cat, the cat. So we just want
Speaker 1: you to know, welcome to the Latino society and the
Speaker 1: good thing about it. I'm like you you can be
Speaker 1: to You just got two days of the week. Yo. Black,
Speaker 1: but there's black Latinos. We're gonna keep correcting you with
Speaker 1: this ship. I know. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that little sonversation is politically shame Like I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to not get me to this. We already got me to. No.
Speaker 1: I gotta boy just turn them boy Dominican Day parade.
Speaker 1: But on one thing I gotta boycott, Bab. I know
Speaker 1: you was that is twenty one years Bab. You've been
Speaker 1: the same weight the whole time. Why you don't get
Speaker 1: you weight? And why are you posting pitchers of mac
Speaker 1: and cheese. It sucks us bad. Looks like me to
Speaker 1: be like what the last fac keep posting Capperlini's and
Speaker 1: all all least you posted the You gotta stop posting
Speaker 1: food pictures. I think I gotta stop because we half
Speaker 1: for all the fat people in the world, like people
Speaker 1: who like it's terrible. We see skinny people that never
Speaker 1: gain weight post the carbs, and you are carbtarian, carbarian
Speaker 1: you beginning with but you're into the food right now. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just greedy. But I like I like trying different things.
Speaker 1: I like seafood, so anything in that seafood family I
Speaker 1: funk with. But um, I like trying different ship. I
Speaker 1: like new restaurants, I like go restaurants. UM ran into
Speaker 1: you and then we ran into you in Mallible at
Speaker 1: Noble out there. God damn as a vibe though you
Speaker 1: know what I mean Malibu. I mean Noble was noble,
Speaker 1: but the Mallible joint is a vibe. You don't got
Speaker 1: the Mallible sort house member. No, Na, they let me in,
Speaker 1: but I don't got the membership. Maybe I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: said that. I've never been what's still don't your face
Speaker 1: right now? Because a favor confused. I was totally wrong.
Speaker 1: You're not on a song total. I don't think I
Speaker 1: was on the song with that, But why it was
Speaker 1: on my song? Why did you send me this picture?
Speaker 1: This is weird. I'm just my movie. That's why I
Speaker 1: spip TV. I don't always cool. Man. Cops asked me
Speaker 1: about it. I want to be able to say, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't see it. No base, no case,
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not I don't even tell me about it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. So what what was your favorite
Speaker 1: label you've been on? Um m hmm, or even your
Speaker 1: favorite CEO? I want to say. I gotta say, you
Speaker 1: know what I say, a lecture because that was just
Speaker 1: the beginning of my label career. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what being on label was still a wrong made you
Speaker 1: felt very much at home. UM. I do love deaf
Speaker 1: Cham My my people, de Cham's um staff has changed lot,
Speaker 1: like the team and the people I've met. The relationships
Speaker 1: I you know, been involved with my def Cham years
Speaker 1: has has really been cool and like something. You know,
Speaker 1: most of them don't even work there anymore. What we
Speaker 1: still have relationships. You know what I'm saying, that's that's
Speaker 1: what you know that your record label stint was deeper
Speaker 1: than just working. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: still see a Shaunas and Margot's and Tech guys there. No,
Speaker 1: she did not there. I still have the relationships there
Speaker 1: with those people. You know what I'm saying that guys
Speaker 1: is that rock Nation Sports? Yeah? Man, I come from
Speaker 1: that lecture. The lecture with Sylvia Sylvia wrong made me
Speaker 1: feel like like I was a baby at one. But
Speaker 1: so that was the first time and that's why I
Speaker 1: first met Jay Brown as well with rock Nation and stuff.
Speaker 1: Now with Electric, I didn't know that and he put me,
Speaker 1: there's not around anymore, right, I think like a Warner Atlantic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's Atlantic now because it was it was
Speaker 1: one Electric Attic and then they just merged into one thing.
Speaker 1: I think Atlantic or something like that. So who's your
Speaker 1: favorite CEO? Who's who is your favorite? I would still
Speaker 1: say Um. I would still say Sylvia just when I
Speaker 1: got first my first connection and energy. Um, she saw
Speaker 1: she saw potential in me. Um. Earlier, you mentioned I
Speaker 1: was signing in the Scope, I was signed for them,
Speaker 1: and um, that's some clue was there who was at
Speaker 1: in the Scope and signed me with clues in print
Speaker 1: the Desert Storm Records, right yeah, if there's a storm
Speaker 1: slash in the scope. And I had a crazy thing
Speaker 1: about that was my first record deal, and I had
Speaker 1: a crazy thing where they fired clue and let's go
Speaker 1: fired now. And it was a decision whether I was
Speaker 1: going to stay or leave a clue. And you did
Speaker 1: leave a clue. I did leave a clue because I
Speaker 1: just didn't know who who wanted to be up here?
Speaker 1: Like who want to you know who I'm staying with?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's a hard thing
Speaker 1: for somebody at that time. I was a record deal.
Speaker 1: You you you as a rapper at that time, that
Speaker 1: was your goal. That was one of your set goals,
Speaker 1: get a record deal. So to get a record deal
Speaker 1: and then be asked do you want the record deal
Speaker 1: or not? And you say, all right, I gotta go
Speaker 1: out to roll or not. Really, it was just like
Speaker 1: position to me, like if you want to stay, you
Speaker 1: can stay signed and you know, finished making your album,
Speaker 1: or you can will terminate you with clue and then
Speaker 1: y'all gotta find you gotta find a new situation. That's
Speaker 1: how you want to lecture. Lecture yeah, okay after a
Speaker 1: go Yeah, because we went back, we went back to
Speaker 1: just grind and mixtape wise and then um that led
Speaker 1: to a little moment Superwoman. At the time, it was
Speaker 1: a guy named Jimmy Cozy and who had a joint
Speaker 1: jow me there seven oh two had a joint with
Speaker 1: my girls that stuff like so those that grinding that
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was like eight months
Speaker 1: to a year grind And after that label think because
Speaker 1: I had started the album one in the Scope, I
Speaker 1: had started recording, I had started keeping a gangster. Some
Speaker 1: of them records had came from the end of Scope. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I even did a song with Little Wayne that had
Speaker 1: had never came out, A funny story Little Wayne, and
Speaker 1: they was so hot. They came to the studio. I
Speaker 1: think Steve Stout gave him Honey Graham for Little Wayne.
Speaker 1: Um out of your budget, Yeah, goddamn it, Scorchings, slash
Speaker 1: money and like nine nine nine nine in the too
Speaker 1: gave him a hunted They came to the studio or something.
Speaker 1: They also requested. This is a they requested like I
Speaker 1: think four bottles of Chris Stop. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was, but it was Chris, you know that was
Speaker 1: the line that was ace of that time exactly. So
Speaker 1: the four bottles is there were in the studio. We're
Speaker 1: thinking that, you know, four bottles of pressed me and
Speaker 1: they're gonna come in. We're gonna vive, drink some champagne.
Speaker 1: Wayne came in and did his verse in fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: stayed out, took the four bottles with him. That's like
Speaker 1: even that first time I even seeing something like that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're thinking in your mind, You're thinkings came in.
Speaker 1: Wayne recited it over the beating. It's like two three
Speaker 1: times they winning a booth came out too good bottles
Speaker 1: going right, I'm not gonna pop one. Or they didn't
Speaker 1: order the food they or the food on me? No,
Speaker 1: no you yeah, it wasn't there that long. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lae y'all. Let me tell you something. I never
Speaker 1: knew you could order ham. I remember knew ham came
Speaker 1: on a pizza. Nas ordered ham pepper n sauce. Oh
Speaker 1: you know the Nigs ordered so much when I when
Speaker 1: that ship came, I was like, there's like want the slice.
Speaker 1: I said, damn, this is New York City. Don't let
Speaker 1: them eat none of this, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But uh, chez luis, Papa Chee. Let's bringing findian. Let's
Speaker 1: take a bathroom break back, like we never laughed for
Speaker 1: nothing but respect. Let's drink chance and motherfucker makes them
Speaker 1: so fat. Let me ask you, um, was there ever
Speaker 1: like a dispute because you know we've heard you in
Speaker 1: the Coco Loso. When we've seen the Coco Loso, it's
Speaker 1: always be related to its fat um, Like was there
Speaker 1: any discrepancies of like were you and par for anything?
Speaker 1: Or like you know what I'm saying, because if we
Speaker 1: see that French had actually what is that called? What
Speaker 1: is French have? French vanilla? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? Is there something that works for
Speaker 1: you and him getting together? We had a we had
Speaker 1: to deal that we was doing a lot of ploso.
Speaker 1: Thing was running but U it was for a certain time.
Speaker 1: It's for a certain you all drunk fat, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I see this. A rockheads came out the door crack
Speaker 1: puff being a crack at the door. But now we
Speaker 1: had a term in term ended and you know, just
Speaker 1: kept it, kept pushing because I want to straight in
Speaker 1: the room. Man, this is the room. I want to straight.
Speaker 1: We was on drink Chap before me, you Jay the Kiss,
Speaker 1: and I seen you had a press run. My partner
Speaker 1: wasn't there, so I said, what can I do to
Speaker 1: make our interview different from everyone else's? So it was
Speaker 1: me who invited Puff. I called Puff. I said, Yo, please,
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna make the difference from me
Speaker 1: from everyone else, from Jada Kiss and um Fab and
Speaker 1: they're on a press run. We can't have our ships
Speaker 1: look the same as everyone else. So I invited Pop.
Speaker 1: This is what I felt happened in this situation. You
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, But I feel like Pop
Speaker 1: came in. I feel like y'all don't see each other
Speaker 1: for a minute, and I feel like he came in,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, he thinks that you were doing
Speaker 1: parties with a vodka company. And when he says to you, um,
Speaker 1: we don't party no more, he's saying like he's saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: you think he's throwing a sub or something. No, no,
Speaker 1: because that's what people who thought. People thought that. When
Speaker 1: I thought I heard that, people was taking it funny
Speaker 1: because he said, no, I want a party, party, party, party,
Speaker 1: And that was that little people like that she was crazy,
Speaker 1: and I blame you because I didn't tell him that
Speaker 1: he got a relaxed right there at the party. You
Speaker 1: didn't know you don't party party. Yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 1: it though, Like I was actually you know what it was.
Speaker 1: I was actually paying um like I was little Tess
Speaker 1: was falling asleep, right, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was like it was an l a to right. This
Speaker 1: is like the most viral movement. He was dead right
Speaker 1: that she was crazy. This is how I took it.
Speaker 1: So I couldn't go on the internet and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: that wasn't no Flate ship, Like yeah, I couldn't do
Speaker 1: that because they're not going to answer every single body.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think the revote play
Speaker 1: was a major factor. What do you mean because you yes,
Speaker 1: But I just want to straighten that out. Like for
Speaker 1: people who think that now I was on vacation, yeaheah,
Speaker 1: I was on vacation. I just I said, what the funk,
Speaker 1: I'm in the late jaiten fab, let me pull the stream.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. When that ship went viro on
Speaker 1: the wrong way, I was like, I'm kind of glad.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, vacation when no I was dead,
Speaker 1: I would listen. I was trying to I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with the points where I had to pull myself
Speaker 1: out the equation. So the points where when he said
Speaker 1: the party party thing, I looked and and and fab
Speaker 1: looked at him and said, nigga, you were came to
Speaker 1: my party. And then when he said no, how part party,
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking in my mind is that's why the
Speaker 1: coco low so like you'll come, let's let's let's let's
Speaker 1: do a different campaign. That's what I'm thinking, right to me,
Speaker 1: But the world took that as a different thing. You
Speaker 1: was there, what did you feel like? Party? Party was favrant?
Speaker 1: But it didn't feel like that. That's why I say
Speaker 1: your intent versus perceptions. We go back to that again.
Speaker 1: He might have not even meant it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't sitting there watching Jing Champs and you see
Speaker 1: Puff with the shades on saying no, but we're on
Speaker 1: party part when you ed like that and you ended
Speaker 1: it like, what do you mean? I didn't watch it?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Watching it is different from
Speaker 1: me and the being I catched it. Yeah, why didn't
Speaker 1: need it. I would have been like, you gotta relax.
Speaker 1: That's why I said, That's why I blamed you, because
Speaker 1: you watched it. You was then watching that no go Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I'm in something, I'm not hitting it. I'm not
Speaker 1: hitting it till outright. So like afterwards afterwards, one of
Speaker 1: they watched like, no, they stop that. It's that how
Speaker 1: nigga niggas got us niggers took it, and they ended
Speaker 1: it so good, and I'm like, yeah, you gotta look
Speaker 1: in an arrow where it's like when we're on party party. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could watch that as aging the person snow they
Speaker 1: just ya dog. Yeah, And I'm not gonna lie. When
Speaker 1: I saw that piece the way they didn't look crazy,
Speaker 1: Like there was one dude and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I wanted to pick him up. I really did. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of it was yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because listen, yeah, motherfucker's icon pop icon. Uh. I've always
Speaker 1: I've never seen this thing that people be saying about you.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, say the way they go viral, you know
Speaker 1: your icons? Yeah yeah, definitely, definitely definitely, So fly let's
Speaker 1: take it to you. Let's take it to you because
Speaker 1: Fab just told us, Um, he threw you under the
Speaker 1: bus and in your face. He said that you broke
Speaker 1: on the franchise boys. Yeah, that one of the bus.
Speaker 1: That the bus. Now you know I was playing that
Speaker 1: was the best life. So and then and then when
Speaker 1: I said the Little Kim album, I have distinctly looked
Speaker 1: at you and I just need to act because that
Speaker 1: was flapping and I didn't. You did Nicki Mina's podcast recently?
Speaker 1: I like that what happened happens breakdown because you are
Speaker 1: filiated the two of the biggest artists in hip hop,
Speaker 1: Little Kim, female art. Excuse me, thank you. We don't
Speaker 1: know what happened was as far as work, um like
Speaker 1: you and Nicki squashing it. Yeah, we said, I don't
Speaker 1: talk business. I just don't know. I went to l
Speaker 1: a UM, I got a podcast actually code out myself
Speaker 1: call that suffend me whish means facts. Look at that.
Speaker 1: Look at that. So we told you gotta relax. He
Speaker 1: couldn't give. We got a podcast that we got, so
Speaker 1: we sat down. It was it would be like a
Speaker 1: business movement a sense. But I had, um, we are
Speaker 1: talking bly doing like since like last year. But we
Speaker 1: don't got together. So um, she was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: can't cut on my rail show. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're not even we gotta we gotta sit down in
Speaker 1: a few weeks there and at first business Wild before
Speaker 1: we can sit down, and we know, briefly was just
Speaker 1: going back and forth for a couple of months and tomp,
Speaker 1: you know, we could get together and I went to
Speaker 1: l A. We sat down and you know, I did
Speaker 1: I did that podcast Queen Radio Apple and she did mine.
Speaker 1: She did she didn't mine as well. I just never
Speaker 1: released it, but she didn't mine nor. It was interesting
Speaker 1: about that. This though, he's got a relationship with a
Speaker 1: little Kim too, but you know, relationship is so like
Speaker 1: but he's still he's got a deep connection to Nikki
Speaker 1: as well. You know what I'm saying, Like it ain't
Speaker 1: like he who side weird little that's not a side,
Speaker 1: not a side. I love Kim to devils never you know,
Speaker 1: it's talking about these likes. That's a you get a
Speaker 1: long time. Remember you told us how to steal jackets y'all? Yeah,
Speaker 1: with my friends, Yeah you do on plane, Yo. That
Speaker 1: was the hardest ship told me that story. That was
Speaker 1: the hardest ship. But let's say we can't go to Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's stay focus. Supposed you get locked up right now?
Speaker 1: Because so how how how is that being cool with both?
Speaker 1: Why they're supposed to be both at odds? How do
Speaker 1: you balance that? I would never um, I mean, me
Speaker 1: and Nikki say down, because we got a history that
Speaker 1: goes back, you know, the beginning of our career. And
Speaker 1: she couldn't disrespect Kim to me. So at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it was a regular saying about me
Speaker 1: and her. It wasn't about with Kim, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: let it. I wouldn't let it be about Linka. So me,
Speaker 1: I was sitting down, you know, I was acting to
Speaker 1: get my business together and try to move on and
Speaker 1: you know, show my growth. So it wasn't a off you.
Speaker 1: I didn't take that as nomalge because I didn't go
Speaker 1: there were nothing against little Kim not saying a little
Speaker 1: Kim have I felt a way about that because little
Speaker 1: Kim is real a very loyal person. So she she
Speaker 1: you know, like y'all were talking about earlier about and
Speaker 1: you're standing over the corner or somebody got befoot and
Speaker 1: I'll come to spray if you were in that corner,
Speaker 1: you might get shot to her get after them with
Speaker 1: the car nowledge, So analogy still come from the streets.
Speaker 1: Say that what another one? Let's go give them to
Speaker 1: let me get three. Yeah, my knowledge is come from shootouts.
Speaker 1: But but so you balanced. Yeah, I thought I got balanced,
Speaker 1: But I could have did a little better than what
Speaker 1: I way. I did it, and nobody know I was
Speaker 1: doing it. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get him
Speaker 1: from though. I didn't. I didn't like I don't nobody
Speaker 1: I ain't know before I asked. I could have asked
Speaker 1: a couple of friends. I didn't thought about it, but
Speaker 1: I wanted my heart like, let me get just go
Speaker 1: ahead and you know, and I see what sure you're
Speaker 1: talking about, and see we can first and move on
Speaker 1: from where I was at. I'm I'm stuck in the stage,
Speaker 1: stuck at twelve years back, like I ain't talking shortly
Speaker 1: in twelve years when we ain't had many more twelve years.
Speaker 1: So let's see if we can get past this. And
Speaker 1: we did. That's dope. Man pick him to pick him
Speaker 1: to the man up to you down, salute, salute. I
Speaker 1: ain't a triple who was squashing swashing, squashing beavers and
Speaker 1: bart who's your man? You gotta squash the leaves north clad.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be savy day. Thank you. I'm making
Speaker 1: nobody else wants to wait till your answer. But it
Speaker 1: means you know it's crazy. I'm gonna be clear. You
Speaker 1: know what FA takes because this is crazy my software.
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking me that fast. What do you ask?
Speaker 1: You just said, I'm not in the squats to be
Speaker 1: Let me tell your son. I don't want no beef
Speaker 1: with nobody. I've been through it all, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you what I've been through because if you don't know,
Speaker 1: then you don't know. I kind of stuff talking about
Speaker 1: like in the past. Not yeah, I'm always sposed to
Speaker 1: be in the past too. I scarpsed to be in
Speaker 1: the past to everyone the street and street squash on
Speaker 1: the public platform? What do you mean like on the
Speaker 1: broadcast on a TV show and radio station, like its
Speaker 1: own your own head. That's not beef if you had
Speaker 1: to squash it in there, Start to come to that
Speaker 1: something I've never really I've never really had like real
Speaker 1: public beef, I mean had public incidents that happened the
Speaker 1: public beef. We're back and forth. I mean no, not
Speaker 1: not really. I've had one or two, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, but not really like what you do if
Speaker 1: somebody else. No, I got caught before, but I can't
Speaker 1: no more. Like right now in my life, I'm very happy.
Speaker 1: I'm married. I love going home to my kids. I
Speaker 1: love going home to my family. I would be irresponsible
Speaker 1: for me because it's not me that's gonna have the war.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be in the hood. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go to your hood. It's gonna be my my niggers,
Speaker 1: And what the fun when when my whole plan is
Speaker 1: to take them out under the hood. I don't need that.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to be for nobody. It's not
Speaker 1: a particular person. It's not and I'm not pussy, but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'd rather just be
Speaker 1: I'd rather be the man that that my wife loves
Speaker 1: to me to come home to. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'd rather be that dude like to me as I'm
Speaker 1: forty two years old, Like, I really don't have nothing
Speaker 1: to prove to nobody, Like I adn't deal with disrespect,
Speaker 1: but feelings I can't deal with it. I can't deal.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is I still get caught because if
Speaker 1: you say, if you say something to me, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say something. But that's not the that's not the thing.
Speaker 1: The thing is like because I don't think I'm a
Speaker 1: whold right, And the thing about it is, come on,
Speaker 1: let's do I can. I got one more life. I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm hold right. But here's the crazy ship
Speaker 1: about home watches everything. Like everything I ever do, the
Speaker 1: nigga will send me up a message or something and
Speaker 1: be like, so when you say, I'm like, damn, listen,
Speaker 1: niggas a billion there. If he's watching, that means that
Speaker 1: every hopefully every people out there's watching the same as
Speaker 1: that ship. Like Drake call the other day, he said
Speaker 1: that like Drake called, he called. He called Elliott because
Speaker 1: me and um Elliott sat here and we went back
Speaker 1: back and forth, and that that's that's dope to me
Speaker 1: because when the hip hop generation is listening because we said, yo,
Speaker 1: listen and I want to tell you to your face,
Speaker 1: thank you fat because we know that you have an
Speaker 1: upcoming um project coming out and this might come out.
Speaker 1: Actually the project came out. But the thing is, i
Speaker 1: hate you. I said, you're fat, hurt you in Miami,
Speaker 1: so let's make it happen. That's a man of his world.
Speaker 1: I respect that, like I've really, really and you know what,
Speaker 1: every time I ask you to be on the podcast,
Speaker 1: you always said, as long as I got something to promoting. Ay,
Speaker 1: and to me, that's all, that's all I want you
Speaker 1: to do. It's like, when you have something to promote,
Speaker 1: come funk with us, because at the end of the
Speaker 1: dayn't even just the promote side, because it's not we
Speaker 1: ain't promoting that chicking it. I need to be let me,
Speaker 1: let me explain what I'm trying to say. Sometimes in
Speaker 1: our generation, like you're important, fab Like, let me just
Speaker 1: say that to you. You're important, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's the reason why you get booked, you
Speaker 1: know at the three sixty five days a year, I
Speaker 1: sincerely believe you can get booked three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: other you know what I'm saying. Let's make some noise
Speaker 1: for that, you say and the other fifteen days because
Speaker 1: you want to take off, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and that and that's dope. But the thing is, it's important.
Speaker 1: It's important is what you say. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you have some Brooklyn ship going on. Let's just your
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on some brook take hod dates. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so it's important for you to sit down with
Speaker 1: your own coaching. You know what I'm saying. It's the
Speaker 1: day for Halloween. I ain't taking because I wanted my
Speaker 1: family we do that. I'm not gonna lie. You really
Speaker 1: dressed up on Halloween, so I thought you was playing
Speaker 1: like the first year seat you on Instagram. First year,
Speaker 1: it was the shakiest year for me because you like
Speaker 1: you was like it was like the first year. The
Speaker 1: first year he was drafting was No. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think if it was the Adams family or the like
Speaker 1: Batman Batman. You did like the Batman villains. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not and it was the first one at him Batman,
Speaker 1: but battle, I ain't gonna lie. You make me feel
Speaker 1: like I gotta grow off. I'd never dressed up for Halloween.
Speaker 1: I gotta grow fast. You look at me and telling
Speaker 1: from me, Yeah, because I guess I guess you crossed
Speaker 1: that that Bridge and my wife kids' party costume was
Speaker 1: a costume party, like a big party right now and
Speaker 1: I know, I use yours excuse now, No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cheeseburger baby, and we're gonna see y'all story.
Speaker 1: We had that story. You're like, cam got camp excuse me,
Speaker 1: carry y'all got damnitendy. So it's not you booking all
Speaker 1: these shows? They keep by bro And what's the name
Speaker 1: of your podcast? Don't let him turn you in six
Speaker 1: nine shot him by himself. You can do a small shot.
Speaker 1: But what's your podcast that's offending? We did? We did
Speaker 1: stablish that. I knew that already. Let's go podcast already.
Speaker 1: So who's you disabute? You? Ring champs? I actually talked
Speaker 1: to about it, but I'm thinking, no podcast, you don't
Speaker 1: know me. I'm actually talking about it. But you know,
Speaker 1: are you talking about about television show? Television? We can't
Speaker 1: control the whole podcast? Yeah? Too much of that. It's
Speaker 1: too much. You got two got you got nick knowledge,
Speaker 1: You're ready the first first interviews, your second liviewr come from.
Speaker 1: If we just second, remember Duan, you remember your niggas
Speaker 1: was the corrupted niggas. I haven't met the story. I
Speaker 1: just told you some of the guys I was telling
Speaker 1: you're gonna put me on get your license. He got
Speaker 1: me an he no, he got me a permit. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: he helped me get a permit. Shout to he's still
Speaker 1: getting money. Yo, let me do. Let me say. Those
Speaker 1: were the two aut niggers York City at one point
Speaker 1: they had everything like you can go to another and say, Yo, listen,
Speaker 1: friendI do qualms. I need call it here. Fright would
Speaker 1: remember the boyd ship was back to the night, he said,
Speaker 1: would the ship? Yeah, Like, I'm gonna call Sack. How
Speaker 1: the fun you who't already? And I just went in
Speaker 1: question this book the niggas, Yeah, he niggas was different.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you one time. This is the
Speaker 1: one time I think I killed Hold on stage. How
Speaker 1: that Jamaica. Damn the White Knight, I think I killed
Speaker 1: Hope gonna watch this. He might call me and be offended.
Speaker 1: So let's just stuff. Let's be clear. Do you remember
Speaker 1: that night? It was just bad? So what was your take?
Speaker 1: You think you got over that night? Absolutely? This is
Speaker 1: the only night. I don't got a lot of these
Speaker 1: nights just because I got wanted this, but I night
Speaker 1: ja make it was just birthday. So he came and
Speaker 1: he ordered like christouts like mom mc we alredy have
Speaker 1: bread stripe red strip I was like, and I went
Speaker 1: on and findy wasn't my height? Man? You remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's sweating tig about right now. But you got me.
Speaker 1: I know your Brooklyn side is not that you admit
Speaker 1: you know. I think that night Jim ain de free No,
Speaker 1: when I see what came on? Oh yeah, we was
Speaker 1: out there. Okay, okay, we was camera on and Jim Joe.
Speaker 1: That's a couple of times too. Let's be clear. Let's
Speaker 1: be clear, let's be click, cause I was gonna roll
Speaker 1: with him. Goddamnit, goddamn good. It's nothing that it was
Speaker 1: the fool to be old ship. Someone's at my house
Speaker 1: on come on, hello, your brain turned on? Hello, this show?
Speaker 1: Oh foods delivery. I let him out. It's probably my son.
Speaker 1: He's a greaty thing. Non put him up in the
Speaker 1: front of the crib. Yeah, were fat. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something, man, I really appreciate you being a
Speaker 1: man of your word. Every time I've seen you, you
Speaker 1: like you don't know what I got you. I was like,
Speaker 1: damn all right, I got you, man. And every time
Speaker 1: you had some movement you came to see me and
Speaker 1: this time pick up to our rockster roster see me
Speaker 1: a flyer, and I hit you direct and just said,
Speaker 1: n let's go. Yes we do. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Let me keep picking them up before we get up.
Speaker 1: About the six nuns. Yes, yes, more fabs and less
Speaker 1: six nins. A quick question, I'm in Chick nine get
Speaker 1: released next week. Yeah, it's definitely. He wants to I'm in,
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell him to his face, I don't
Speaker 1: like you like now, but you shouldn't even say that.
Speaker 1: It's not personal. It's not personal with him. You can't
Speaker 1: say you said that Union fan. Yeah, we helped it
Speaker 1: a different standard. Yeah, but I don't think we should
Speaker 1: have him on the platform. I think me personally, I
Speaker 1: would tell him I don't like you. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: him on the Norri podcast. No, yeah, it's gonna be it.
Speaker 1: Listen you know why, because the thing is with this,
Speaker 1: see doing a doing a song with you, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's why I was that disagreeing earlier. Doing a
Speaker 1: song with you. I feel like that's co side of you,
Speaker 1: doing an interview with you. I don't feel like it's
Speaker 1: side of you at all. I feel like I'm just
Speaker 1: talking to you. I can talk to I talk. I
Speaker 1: talked to um. But you know why you're talking to
Speaker 1: skin heads in the skin heads. I talked to k
Speaker 1: k ks now. But you can't and you can't about
Speaker 1: you have legends here. That's why you can't say no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. That would be clearly chasing about that same
Speaker 1: interview with no cameras. No, it's not gonna happen. You're
Speaker 1: doing no and he had to come that's not gonna
Speaker 1: He would have to come here and fail the same
Speaker 1: thing that everyone else felt. And I would tell him
Speaker 1: to the space. I hate snitches and I went to
Speaker 1: jail for three and a half years four snitches, and
Speaker 1: I don't respect you. But if he can handle that,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get a sick right here, I'm on
Speaker 1: a vacation that no problems. You can't get platform, you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't give this part. No no, I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If Saving the
Speaker 1: Bull wants to come here, I would tell Seving the
Speaker 1: Ball I disagree with you. I heard Saving the Bull
Speaker 1: tell nobody know seven it's a different culture. It's a
Speaker 1: different culture. That's that's how I watch your ship. Ain't
Speaker 1: going ain't going to take from Sammy the Bull the way,
Speaker 1: And we didn't talk to Sammy. We had a seven
Speaker 1: who wanted to start a podcast. We actually that's the
Speaker 1: old total of error. I think it's a different thing, man. Yeah, man, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't, right, But if I did interview six nine,
Speaker 1: I would sit. I would tell him I did three
Speaker 1: and a half years of my life. But niggas like you.
Speaker 1: I don't like you, I don't respect you, and I
Speaker 1: really don't want to talk to you. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you talk, and I'm gonna dispute everything you say.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna refute everything you say to me. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not a problem to me. That's to me. Now
Speaker 1: if you tell me not, don't give him a platform,
Speaker 1: then that's that's something totally different. Want to do a
Speaker 1: pot platform and try to justify way which is true.
Speaker 1: And the reason why he can't testify it is because
Speaker 1: he said gang gang. Once you say gang gang and
Speaker 1: you say that, then you have to apply at what
Speaker 1: he's saying. To the people who watch it, didn't they
Speaker 1: make their judgment if they want to accept what he's
Speaker 1: saying or not when you give him that platform. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not co signing him. And that's
Speaker 1: our kids. Like you said, they don't come from the
Speaker 1: same moral codes we come from, so they might look
Speaker 1: at it and really be like Nons was going for
Speaker 1: me ten years O did it too, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they come from a different right. My
Speaker 1: son don't live in that world, very postal. I'm working
Speaker 1: hard so that he don't have to so so so
Speaker 1: so you come home when your son is banging the
Speaker 1: new six nine. No, my my son knows since and
Speaker 1: he's like man six knins a snitch, my son said,
Speaker 1: without me telling him. And you know, you know what's
Speaker 1: the fun part about it this since six nine snitch
Speaker 1: every day I listen to his music though while he
Speaker 1: was swerving, and I know that might be a Bulty
Speaker 1: record or I know abilities on that. Then you know,
Speaker 1: I love a bulky you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: the thing is the radio station did not pull that
Speaker 1: record when we had to shoot out of any seven
Speaker 1: our records was pulled that that record not next week.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to have a million. They said, shoot
Speaker 1: out from the Howdy seven, pull them motherfucker's records, but
Speaker 1: never got the incident in the radio station. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a different This is a different thing, different things. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I'm saying is the sincerity of the
Speaker 1: situation made them pull my record immediately. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: the sincerity of the situation did not make piece people
Speaker 1: pull that back. I think the worstness means less now
Speaker 1: than it did years. I think the worstness now means
Speaker 1: it could be a part of the culture to some people.
Speaker 1: It wasn't say y'all called I called poll looking out.
Speaker 1: But it's something where it is it is it? It wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he said. Y'all call it snitching.
Speaker 1: I'll call it pole looking at So that's the mentality
Speaker 1: that you know a lot of people are taking, like
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't snitching. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean. I'm trying. They don't
Speaker 1: have that in They stayed and I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: following this code that I gotta stick to. Uh. But
Speaker 1: it's deeper than the cold. It's deeper than because because
Speaker 1: sometimes the decision it was involved you. That's that's what
Speaker 1: it is. That's crazy. You wouldn't be I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: Even when I interviewed Troy App and I don't want
Speaker 1: to put them in the same category, but if you
Speaker 1: really watch that interview as a steep person, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I asked them every which way question it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be asked. You know what I'm saying. But the
Speaker 1: thing is this, I think, is this what people got
Speaker 1: to stop doing. Is people already accusing Troy App but
Speaker 1: being a snitch when he actually didn't take the stand.
Speaker 1: He said he put out a rap little finger from
Speaker 1: the stand. He never took it. Yet that's what made
Speaker 1: it is gonna take the thing you said? You told
Speaker 1: me that, he kind of said he he kind of said,
Speaker 1: why whatnot? Because the other nigga is that's what six
Speaker 1: nine did though six nine same day, what you mean?
Speaker 1: What you mean? Six Knights? The same thing. Every there
Speaker 1: was already investigating the whole six nine who before he
Speaker 1: got locked up, so somebody already wouldn't told him, and
Speaker 1: they wired the cars up and all that before six
Speaker 1: nine even got in any trouble. Everybody, when somebody was
Speaker 1: already working with the police. So I'm pretty sure they
Speaker 1: came to him and to day who did who was
Speaker 1: such a such that he was like I don't know him.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was like I don't know him, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you don't know him. What are we
Speaker 1: playing this day for you? You know what I got
Speaker 1: read there is you. You're right here with him. That's
Speaker 1: the best work. Defend that asked you a question, they
Speaker 1: got answered for ready, So I can't say in turn
Speaker 1: you because you got more instance, Yeah, they got you
Speaker 1: had the corporation from that made it right. For got
Speaker 1: something ready, like when he's saying they got something, but
Speaker 1: they they got you into something they got, so now
Speaker 1: you turn to get them to get more more. The
Speaker 1: whole operation it's like wire tap and you say something
Speaker 1: on wire tap and then they actually you say you
Speaker 1: say no, they play it back for you. Say. And
Speaker 1: the Frank Lucas ship and the movie they caught his
Speaker 1: nephew or something because he shot his girl in the
Speaker 1: ass or something like that, and they brought him and said,
Speaker 1: all right, we know you. We got you for shooting
Speaker 1: this girl because we were staking at your house. But
Speaker 1: if you don't want to go to jail for this.
Speaker 1: You can talk about this over here, and that's how
Speaker 1: that's how they get you because you don't want to
Speaker 1: take the thing for what you did. You want to
Speaker 1: take the responsibility for that. Frank Lucas nepheople. They not
Speaker 1: give me the fucking give me the three years, the
Speaker 1: five years, but you got I'm not going to But
Speaker 1: niggas don't want to take that. They don't want to
Speaker 1: take the responsive maybe for what they look I don't
Speaker 1: want to take six months. They definitely And you've got
Speaker 1: a rock chain, fat, but you're not technically rock. That
Speaker 1: was gifted to me on my birthday, on my forty
Speaker 1: and birthday. I told you I always felt like I
Speaker 1: was under the rock family treat. I've launched my rock chain. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you do that? Because I'm high, I should
Speaker 1: take a I just take a heavy amount of ecstasy
Speaker 1: at one point. But let's not talk about that right now,
Speaker 1: because I still at some point you're spoken on. But
Speaker 1: we don't have to dwell. I'm gonna be honestly, at
Speaker 1: some point, I still take a little dad like everything.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not often, but every now and a
Speaker 1: little base, a little base gotta take a little bit
Speaker 1: and say it for later. That's what happened with puff
Speaker 1: one of the party like mine. Man, you're fat. Man.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Man, finde man. Both of
Speaker 1: your brothers, Man, your brothers. I know both of your
Speaker 1: individually separately, I said individually, separate all, So I know
Speaker 1: both of your individually separately, and I know y'all together,
Speaker 1: and I know you'll together. And you know what, I
Speaker 1: want to say that, I'm proud of both of your brothers, man,
Speaker 1: because so many people in this industry they give up
Speaker 1: or they go the other way, and they become bad people,
Speaker 1: and they become haters, and they become You guys always
Speaker 1: been at the top of your game. You guys continue
Speaker 1: to just you know, continue to just monkey foot this
Speaker 1: ship and just push through the doors, and you continue
Speaker 1: to make money every f fucking five, six days a
Speaker 1: fucking week. And I'm watching y'all and I'm counting your
Speaker 1: money and I'm happy. I'm like, they're not with us
Speaker 1: like that, But I just want to say that that, man,
Speaker 1: if there's anybody that never told y'all, man, what you're
Speaker 1: doing is you're doing is the right thing, and continue
Speaker 1: to do what you're doing and feeding y'all family. And
Speaker 1: I know sometimes you miss you know, Christmas Is and
Speaker 1: Thanksgivings because I've been there. I've been there for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, so no, no, I don't miss all
Speaker 1: the way. I'm listening to be honest, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: you this holloway because I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: you get my family right, because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest on the loan, Like in my mind,
Speaker 1: I've been trying them. I people wanting to call you
Speaker 1: for years to help me with my stylus because I've
Speaker 1: never seen you with a bum outfit and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of mad, like like like no, no, no, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: family got to have a bump day, Like one day
Speaker 1: you're gonna come out. You want to come out with
Speaker 1: the quartet like Cortex. But I've never seen you have
Speaker 1: a bump day. You man. You know, like you said,
Speaker 1: we we we come from the same neck at it Woods.
Speaker 1: We have a genuine respect for each other. Even though
Speaker 1: he um you know his podcast is supposed to be
Speaker 1: me and him. He spent off Still my ni, you
Speaker 1: know you need too much money your hon't. I didn't
Speaker 1: want it. I'm gonna get but it's never too late.
Speaker 1: It's too there. You guys just started the body drink responsibly.
Speaker 1: I wanted to daruma to that question you asked, fat
Speaker 1: was his favorite CEO? Okay, who was your favorite CEO? U? Well, well,
Speaker 1: my favorite CEO over the time has been Nil over
Speaker 1: the time, times over the time. But my favorite ceo,
Speaker 1: like like, there's Leo coins, there's no there's no dude
Speaker 1: that he just embodied the boss what's the name one
Speaker 1: of the do my thing with Leo? Ever, he never
Speaker 1: I came over you know where he was even when
Speaker 1: I came over to the Atlantic was Electromergeny. I never
Speaker 1: got the jil, I never got the deaf jam jail
Speaker 1: from him. We were into a Yankee game. But it
Speaker 1: just didn't like he didn't he didn't you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I was I was looking to mess
Speaker 1: because of course, Bot, I'm under your class, le all Cohen,
Speaker 1: I'm in great, great seats at the Yankee game. We
Speaker 1: just ain't you know what I'm saying, Like he didn't
Speaker 1: give me that what's the name? I know his relationship
Speaker 1: with old No, it was probably it was this is
Speaker 1: it was probably you because yeah, i'd be cool. I'm
Speaker 1: cool and laid back, so especially at that time, I
Speaker 1: mean he probably wanted more on you, like because when
Speaker 1: you that's the type of person he was like this,
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you. I described something to I know,
Speaker 1: we gotta get our produdt of here. But I remember
Speaker 1: I became so hot like around the freestyle and Leo
Speaker 1: called me and said, where are you at? And I said,
Speaker 1: I'm the video shoot. He said I'll be there and
Speaker 1: he just hung up, pull up. He never asked me
Speaker 1: where the video shoot was. And to me, when he
Speaker 1: pulled up, I knew automatically I was signing the depth
Speaker 1: jam because he didn't ask me where. He didn't ask
Speaker 1: me what barrow, he didn't ask me, are you in
Speaker 1: New York? He just said I'll be there and he
Speaker 1: just pulled up. But again, fab bendy man, because they
Speaker 1: keep waving. I don't even know what that means. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't ye man. Let me just tell y'all. Let
Speaker 1: me just tell y'all. Just tell y'all man, y'all both
Speaker 1: great brothers. I'm glad that your brothers are together and
Speaker 1: and and getting money. You know, I'm very proud of
Speaker 1: of of of y'all growth. I'm very proud of the
Speaker 1: man that you turned into fab not not not because
Speaker 1: I can't be your older brother one year older than you,
Speaker 1: but you know in hip hop im your older brother,
Speaker 1: but not in life. And I just I see, you
Speaker 1: know the growth that he's been aways got older brothers
Speaker 1: out of one year older. Yeah, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna letthers. You better give me the
Speaker 1: old want yo. But I want to thank y'all. I
Speaker 1: want to thank you for being a man of world word.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for Finny, for always sticking
Speaker 1: to the to the script and sticking with this game.
Speaker 1: So many people was in your position. They quit, they
Speaker 1: got out this game. They have motherfucker working in the
Speaker 1: Larzy map right now. I'll take my cleaners to these
Speaker 1: things and tell him no creases found. It's not Rick.
Speaker 1: But I want to thank y'all. Come on, let's take
Speaker 1: some pictures and that