WEBVTT - Episode 49: Wayne ‘Radar’ Riley 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from paying. They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.920 much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.560 kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.520 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.000 Hey, everybody, welcome back to the proven Grounds Podcast. I'm 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:15.960 Shane Bacon. That is Marty Jerts and Marty we got 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:17.880 a special guest. I've bit excited about this one. 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.680 Yeah, Wayne Radar Riley. Yeah, I think that's a good 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.720 place to start. Cheane is wayn Why don't you tell 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.080 us where Radar came from? 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.080 Well, when I was a young boy, I was actually 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.880 playing an apprentice golf profession in Australia. I had to 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.960 work at a pro shop for three years and because 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:34.960 my parents made me do that in case I didn't 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.319 make it as a golf bro and they would bang 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.680 on and I was in a place called Orange and 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.720 I was camping because we couldn't afford to stay in 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.800 a hotel playing this championship and Wayne Riley it was 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.560 right at the height of a TV show called Mash 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:53.680 and you're you know, with the helicopters and Radar Riley 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.920 out of mash and it upset me Bactually really I 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.920 was only about fifteen or sixteen years of age, but 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.400 they did me a favor really, So it's, uh, that's 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.240 where I get RADI Riley Nash. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.440 When you're walking the golf course, do you get radar 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.400 more than when polot you absolute? 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:08.680 They're always their always screaming, don't you. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:13.200 Yeah, it's in the UK, Yeah, it's it's absolutely, it's 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.360 it's it's it's all Rader, all of it. And in 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:16.440 Australia it's all Rader. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.720 So you're from Sydney, Australia, you live in England now 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.400 encourse commentator for Sky Sports. You do an unbelievable job. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.000 You're one of my favorite listens. How did you get 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.480 into that? Because a lot of people might not know 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.000 about your playing career, How did you transition from player 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.360 to encourse commentator? 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.440 Well, I retired from the playing on the DP World 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.880 two European Tours, I know it as and I went 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.640 back to Australia and I actually bought a nine whole 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.160 part three golf course and what was it, Wayne Riley 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:41.560 Path three? 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:42.040 And there you go? 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.920 Yeah, And originally and and and I had that, and 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.120 I got a phone call from Channel seven back in 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.440 Australia and they said, would you like to come and 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:54.440 do some en course commentary? And I was eleven o'clock 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:55.680 or nine. I was half a say. I said, sure, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.320 you got the right right guy usual you know what 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.160 Wayne Grady or someone like that like that. They said, not, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.920 it's you. We think you can do it, and that 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.520 was it, and then Sky got me and the rest 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.480 is history. I didn't find it very difficult at all, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.240 and which is which is a bonus. You know, some 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.440 people struggle with it, and but they learned to do it, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.080 and that's fine. But straight away I just duck the water. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.840 I'd been in every predicament as a golf pro, up 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.600 trees everywhere, so I kind of knew how to call 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:29.840 shots reder. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.200 Do you still own the PO three course? 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.760 No? No no. I leased that out for two years 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.280 to this guy and he started to steal from me, 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.760 so I ended up selling it back to him. I 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.080 sold it to him, I mean true, yeah, I leased 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.960 it to him, and there's ways that I shouldn't say this, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.839 but he didn't steal, did you? 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.640 You just maybe a bit sketchy, I'm assuming it's not 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:54.600 Wene Riley P three. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.480 It's Silver Slvania waters Bath three. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:02:59.120 Now there you go. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.760 So after you were camping and working as a golf 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.480 pro playing these was it? 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:06.440 Were they junior. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.280 Tournaments in Australia you were planning at that time sixteen seventeen, Well. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.000 No, they were. We call it an apprentice. I'm not 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:13.920 sure if it's the stay the same here in the States. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.160 You have to work in a pro shop for three 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.799 years to become fully qualified, gotcha. Yes, you could fall 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.160 back on being a club pro if you didn't make 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.200 it on the circuit. So that's what I did, and 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.560 I did the whole three years, which was almost like 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.200 a jail sentence, basically selling Mars bars to the members 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.720 and cleaning their golf clubs and all that. I did 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.560 the whole lot. Do your lessons, No, I wasn't. You're 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.160 not allowed to us apprentice. Yeah you can now, But 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.680 when my day, it was, you know, thirty dollars a 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.680 week I used to get when I first started, and 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.640 it was it was very interesting. But I started that 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.400 when I was fifteen. It was a decent golf even 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.720 when I was fifteen. So I did it for three 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.800 years I was out at eighteen, but I'm fully qualified. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.560 Never had to use it, but so it's been as 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.760 good as an Astronia motorbike. It's been useless really, but 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:07.720 I'm still a fully qualified golf brother. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.960 So you're a PGF Australia member of the. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:14.600 Oh absolutely, they always have been and pay it every year. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.200 So whether they know I am. 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:17.520 You pay your dues, I do. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.360 Wait, what what year did you turn pro and what 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.320 was the what were the early days like of your 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:24.200 professional career. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.160 Well, that was around nineteen seventy seven when I had 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.360 to go and work in the pro shop, and but 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.880 I was out at about nineteen eighty one. I started 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.280 to play pro am. We've got an unbelievably good pro 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.080 am circuit in Australia where Wayne Grady, a major champion, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.000 Ian Baker Finch, Greg Norman back in the day played 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.960 this pro am circuit. We all honed our game on that. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.599 You know, playing five thousand dollars was a total person 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.680 If you won, you won seven hundred dollars and you 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.440 could just keep on going on to the next event. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.960 They were all year round, except when the big tournaments 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.479 in Australia were happening. So it was a great place 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.640 to hone your game. Every single day. You'd finish, you 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:05.960 get in the car and you go to the next 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.520 one and they all in the same vicinity as each other, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.400 so off you'd go, and then you'd play on the 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.400 proper tour when it started like October through December, and 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.400 then they'd start up again and the finish late February 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.440 with the Australian Masters, and then when you got your card, 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.880 you go and play in Europe or you play in 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.920 the States. So Australia's and it's still got a great 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:32.360 it's a great honing ground for young pros, but there 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.919 aren't big championships. We used to have like thirteen or 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.040 fourteen big championships and now they're basically is the Australian 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.480 PGA and the Australian Open. Because of the world schedule. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.640 Now it's a world schedule. People go, why haven't we 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.880 got big championships down in Australia. When I go back 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.000 to Australia, But it's very difficult now because you know, 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.280 the same time as Australian Open, Tiger's got his event, 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.320 the Hero and so many things going on now. Sponsors 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:03.680 aren't interested anymore unless you've got great fields. Basically Scottie 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.880 Smith if they had at leash and these are kind 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:11.760 of great Australian players. If they aren't playing, sponsors aren't 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:12.400 really interested. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.880 When did you start to show signs of being a 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.400 very good golfer? I'm always interested in when people see 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.599 a clicking, or when they start to see the results, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.320 or if somebody tells them, hey, you've got some serious game. 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.560 When did you start to see your abilities click? 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.520 About nineteen to twenty I started to sort of win 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.640 these pro am events and then start top tens on 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.200 the on the circuit, and I won my first tournament 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.640 when I was like twenty one, being in Baker Beating 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.520 and Baker Vench in a playoff, a big event Victorian 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.120 PG eight and yeah, it just went on from there. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.680 And then twenty two I came over and got my 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.600 card in Europe and off you go. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.960 Was your first big win the ninety one Australian Open, No. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.120 The PGA. But see, as I say, the thirteen tournaments 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.320 we had back in Australia, Yeah, they are all big events. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.719 You know. We've got like Bob Shearers and Jack Newton's 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.760 blust from the past Baker, Finches. You know, all these 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.880 guys played in the events that we won, but they 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.960 don't hear of them now. But they are big events. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.960 But my big yeah, the Australian Open would have been 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.880 nineteen ninety one was my first big on. Everyone wants 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.080 to win the Australian openers in Australia even now it was, 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.000 but it was back then. You know there were three 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:26.960 and out of the four major champions in it. I mean, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.440 it was a huge event in Australia Open. It is 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:30.520 it true? 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.320 You went birdie, birdie, birdie, and tell us about that 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.720 putt on the last hole or the last the finishing 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:36.720 stretch of that tournament. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.320 Well, it's an interesting story because in nineteen ninety I 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:46.760 started with ping and and I won the Air New 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:52.360 Zealand Open by seven shots. And anyway, I hope we've 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.600 got all day and I got. I go back to 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.640 Europe in nineteen ninety one, and I parted it up 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.640 so badly. It was incredible with a short buttter. Nothing 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.560 to do with the part I just didn't line up well. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.480 The holes were open and I found it hard to 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.760 square them up, and I thought I've got to start again. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.840 So in about September, two months shy of the tour 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.960 finishing in Europe, I went back to Australia and I said, well, okay, 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.720 I'm going to start and I'm going to become a 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.560 child again in the respect of I'm going to get 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.720 a long putter and I'm going to go out there 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:28.480 and find something that's different than using the short putter. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.679 So I went back for seven weeks and I practiced 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.200 so very much with the long part. It didn't hit 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.480 a shot seven weeks, just parted every single day. And 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.559 I went to defend the Air New Zealand I don't work, 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.520 which I won the prey previous year in nineteen ninety 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.280 by seven shots, and I ran about thirtieth and I 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.160 didn't put very well. I thought, oh jee, I just 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.000 wasted seven weeks. Next week, next week I get to 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:57.079 the Australian Open and I played unbelievably like I had 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.320 all year, but wasn't partying very good. And I'm on 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:04.080 the about third down on the board going into about 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.040 the five holes from the end of the championship, three 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:12.079 shots back and I'm winging and whining, and my caddy 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.560 then Lindsay, she said it was a lady's great caddy, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.240 good player herself. And she said, if you don't stop 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.880 whinging when you burdy these last four holes, you're not 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:22.720 going to remember it. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.400 And I said, come come on, it's creak caddy advice. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.480 Yeah, yeah, that's all right, Shane. But then I hit 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.280 it to fifteen feet on the fifteenth miss of the game. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.200 I said, what were you saying? So anyway, the next 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.680 path through I hit a five iron up there to 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.680 about nine feet behind it. Did then I hit a 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.319 one iron over the back of the green on a 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.800 par five seventeenth at Royal Melbourne, chip it down to 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.319 thirty feet because it was in a tangy light. It 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:47.960 was a good shot to get at thirty feet Ray 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:52.720 Melbourne Green's really fast in with this long part, absolutely marvelous. 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.520 So then all of a sudden I sling this six 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.320 iron right around the green on eighteen under the whole 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.480 thirty three feet. Well she didn't touched the sides in 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.000 she went as well, so and then they all started 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.520 to make a few boges, said coda. Uncle Rada prevailed 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.000 with the new putter. I mean you all should get 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.400 the long partter. It was a b ninety. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.400 This isn't twenty twenty four though. I mean, there weren't 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.120 a lot of long putters out there. I mean, this 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.000 is this something somebody built for you. You go have 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:20.480 to go find it. I mean, how did you get 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:21.640 your hands on something like that? 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.040 What in the early nineties. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:28.960 I looked at rock O Mediate, really mediate, he had one. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.040 They were already Peter Sing and Sam Trans were already 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.520 using the chin one, only two of them. But Rocco 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:41.240 had this thing in his chest, yes, and anchored, you 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.280 bet you we were anchoring and it was it was like, 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.960 you know, I thought that really and then I grabbed 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.400 it and I clawed it and it was like and 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:56.160 I just kept on thinking, TikTok, like a grandfather clock, TikTok, TikTok. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.560 And it worked. It was brilliant. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.480 You see a lot of the you know, now the 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.120 stigma's gone, the ego's gone with the long putter, right, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.520 it seems that you see a younger players doing it, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.000 Folks struggling with the hebgb's doing it or not or 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.840 not the hebgb's. I mean, it's just a different technique. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.000 I personally use it as well. It's not easy. There's 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.640 a skill to it. You need your stuff to do 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.120 a lot of things very mechanically with it, temple wise, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.840 very important the pressure you apply to it. What advice 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.280 would you have for somebody that wants to try it, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.079 they've never used a long putter, any technique things, and 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:31.600 any tips or tricks to somebody. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.520 Yeah, as long as you do get over that, as 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.760 I said, the Grandfather clock, as long as the putter 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:42.559 does hang vertically, I feel almost like the toe heel 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.800 up just a little bit and it hangs down. And 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.400 you can get that thing just given it the TikTok, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.880 the old Grandfather clock. If you can give it that, 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.520 and you know, it's almost as well with the long putter. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:59.640 You know, in my day it was almost showing off, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.160 Like you get onto the green and people go, look 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.600 at this guy, what's just thing? Not many people, so 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.480 they're already looking at you. Yeah, they're looking at you. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.640 They were looking at me, and I was going, yeah, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.080 here I am. You might be looking at check what 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.280 I've got here. You know, So all of a sudden 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.080 you've gone from the short part of where you didn't 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.839 want people to watch because it was like a live 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.320 rattlesnak in your hand and now you've got this, you've 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.520 got this TikTok thing go and you hold them from 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.240 everywhere and they're all going whoa. And we went through 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.240 that stage in the nineties where everyone started using it 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:34.400 and then it stopped. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.559 It's coming back, though, Yeah, it is coming back. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.360 Rad Are you you went rattlesnake there? I mean you're 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.120 from Australia. You could have picked any other of the 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.400 most poisonous snakes in the world. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.160 You read belly black Sune, We've got a red bit. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:45.880 You're talking to the American audience. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.480 Well, that's what it's all about. Yeah, to know where 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:49.120 that came from. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.120 Jake, twenty years on the European Tour. Now we've heard 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.120 so long about the European Tour and kind of the 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.760 fraternity that is the European Tour. I can only imagine 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.719 what it was like in the eighties and nineties. I'm 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.520 assuming you've got a couple of good storre worries about 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.400 touring for twenty years on the euro tour with some 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.160 of your buddies and stuff. So if you could share 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:06.720 a couple of well of those. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.480 Types, it's just it's the stories are just you know, 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.680 because Basically, we didn't have courtesy cars like on the 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.160 PGA Tour. If you're a player, you get given the car. Yeah, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:18.840 you pick it up from the airport, I suppose, and 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.000 you drive around. We used to have to get picked up, 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.800 you know, or catch a cab. And I remember it 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.439 was so strange to play on the European time. I 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.320 remember playing in Madrid once. So I'm playing in Madrid 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.040 and you had to get a golf club called Club 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.959 de Campo ported a hero, great course in Madrid. And 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.200 I get up and I jump in the cab on 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.080 Sunday morning, running about tenth in the championship, you know, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.080 going in the week and not gonna win, but gonna 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.280 have a decent week. Get in the cab by myself. Anyway, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.560 see all these people up the road, and I've got 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.360 an hour and a half until I head off. And 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.840 I stopped and I go, what's going on here? Matathon? 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.320 I said, what, So there's a marathon. Okay, so I've 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.360 got to get through this marathon. But I'm not allowed 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.720 to get through this marathons on there's police everywhere. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.200 They're blocking off the roads. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.040 So I've got the clubs in the boot of the cab. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.040 Everyone's honking their car. If you've ever been a midman, 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:23.400 Madrid a magical place. So I ended up making my 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.240 Titan by three minutes. I had to run through and 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.080 a marathons. They shut a marathon down, and it's really wide. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.920 It just isn't the street, it's the footpath people can run. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:38.720 So I ran through a marathon with hundreds of people 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:43.600 with my bats ping of course on my back. I'm 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.920 running through all these people and they're all going, what's 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.320 going on? What's this guy doing running? But this is 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.320 the sort of thing we used to do. We didn't 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.920 get courtesy cars or go round marathons. They go, right, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.880 today's a marathon, we've got to go around, so book 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.000 your car early. I had to run through things like that. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.760 We used to have. Tuesday nights were legendary. We shouldn't 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.400 go into those too much. A little red eyed on 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.080 on Wednesday pro Am Day. But it's all The game's 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.840 changed so much for the better. But I wouldn't change 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.600 the days we used to. We used to play. If 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.960 you had an ordinary week, you wouldn't win that much money. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.400 You had to play well the next week as well. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.000 It was we didn't play for that much money back then. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.560 It's changed. It's changed dramatically. These guys playing for twenty 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.240 five million a week and twenty million a week, it's 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.040 all and they're still winging. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.160 Still, they're silf whining they can win, are still whining. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.320 It's like, unreal. I can't get in that. We'll play 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.920 better man, go and play. Oh well, you have to 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.280 go back. You can't play for the twenty million with 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.440 the designated great events. You have to go and play. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.480 Oh poor you, you have to go and play for seven. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:55.600 Really, I think you're gonna be okay. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.280 I think a lot of people should take a good 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:01.240 hard look of themselves and see how how lucky they are. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.560 When Rory got the Curtis the police escort at the 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.200 Ryder Cup that one time and made his tea time 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.840 by about half an hour? Were you sitting there going 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:08.880 there's no stress in that. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.480 I was there on that first jarge. I think it 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:11.080 was half an hour. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.680 Show a little quit, little tighter. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:17.440 Oh yeah, I'd say he he parked ten minutes before. Okay, 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.720 it wasn't much more because I saw him walk on 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.800 the tea and they cheered him and he smiled and 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.840 madonah it was I was right. I just laughed. It 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.480 was just unreal. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:29.480 Flashbacks to Madrid. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.360 Evans knows what he was doing that night. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.560 Radar, tell us a little bit going back to equipment. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:39.800 Tell us a little bit about what ball driver. You 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:44.240 know you played in the eighties and nineties and and 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.480 and what your experience has been now you've played such 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:52.440 a broad spectrum of equipment much golf ball driver, metalwood, standpoint, 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:53.480 tell us all the job though. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.480 Yeah, the old driver, it's been so long ago. What 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.480 was the silver driver that Ping used to have. They 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.320 used to have a three with the same Yeah, there 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.000 you go, yeah, those but back when I started with Ping, 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.960 you you you had? It was great, it was the best. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.080 I mean, you had to use thirteen of the fourteen clubs. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.000 That's what cast has said. He said, you got to 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.479 use thirteen of the fourtune and I used fourteen, and 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.240 you had to use the putter. If you had a 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:24.200 Ping bag, There's no using someone else's butter, because that's 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.439 what Ping. It was the daddy of the butter. You know. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.880 That's what and still is everyone's truck. If you look 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.880 at Scotty wats his name, I'm not going to mention 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.840 his second name. We're not even going to go there. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:37.240 But if you have a look at that, it's a 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.920 copy of the answer, right, Tiger's putter that he hold 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:44.040 everything with that red dot. It's it's you just look 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.360 at it when it was down there. Well that's an answer. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.879 So how how someone? I'm sorry, I'm not taken. You know, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.520 I'm not upset in the apple card here, It's just 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.400 it is fact. I mean that. Well, you can't copy 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.880 what Carston did, but there it is, and everyone's going 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.320 Scotty's really really well, he's a few years late, I feel. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.760 But I used all the clubs you had to and 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.760 it was an incredible time and I still do all 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.719 my clubs though I haven't got anything else in it. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.080 I wouldn't dare because why there isn't anything as good. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.159 And you had the big white staff bag, right, that 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.040 was the classic and that still is with the brand today. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.719 You know what, Yes, I've got that big white staff 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.520 bag with my thing that I do I think called 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.080 round with Raider that comes out. But when I won 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.280 the Australian Open, I had a lady cat in for me, Lindsay, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.119 and I had a little white bag that was the 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.800 same material. I'm not sure they still do it. I 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.520 really don't know, but it was the most unbelievably good bag. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.320 It had the big Ping on there. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.080 Yeah you still have it, you start it at home? 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.919 No, no, I don't. I might have gave it to Lindsay. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.600 I probably did. But it's a beautiful bag and it's 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.359 not the big one. I've got the big one. Yeah, 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.920 but now you know, there's so many bags you can get. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.160 I've got this little light bag that I carry around 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.000 when I'm in England and go and play it come, 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.200 you know, with a strap over. They're like, I'm wearing 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.399