1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The guys from paying. They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot I 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: kind of want. 5 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 6 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 3: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 7 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the proven Grounds Podcast. I'm 8 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Shane Bacon. That is Marty Jerts and Marty we got 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: a special guest. I've bit excited about this one. 10 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Wayne Radar Riley. Yeah, I think that's a good 11 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: place to start. Cheane is wayn Why don't you tell 12 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 3: us where Radar came from? 13 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 4: Well, when I was a young boy, I was actually 14 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: playing an apprentice golf profession in Australia. I had to 15 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: work at a pro shop for three years and because 16 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 4: my parents made me do that in case I didn't 17 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 4: make it as a golf bro and they would bang 18 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 4: on and I was in a place called Orange and 19 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: I was camping because we couldn't afford to stay in 20 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: a hotel playing this championship and Wayne Riley it was 21 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 4: right at the height of a TV show called Mash 22 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: and you're you know, with the helicopters and Radar Riley 23 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: out of mash and it upset me Bactually really I 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: was only about fifteen or sixteen years of age, but 25 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: they did me a favor really, So it's, uh, that's 26 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: where I get RADI Riley Nash. 27 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: When you're walking the golf course, do you get radar 28 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: more than when polot you absolute? 29 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: They're always their always screaming, don't you. 30 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in the UK, Yeah, it's it's absolutely, it's 31 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: it's it's it's all Rader, all of it. And in 32 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: Australia it's all Rader. 33 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: So you're from Sydney, Australia, you live in England now 34 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: encourse commentator for Sky Sports. You do an unbelievable job. 35 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: You're one of my favorite listens. How did you get 36 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: into that? Because a lot of people might not know 37 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: about your playing career, How did you transition from player 38 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: to encourse commentator? 39 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: Well, I retired from the playing on the DP World 40 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: two European Tours, I know it as and I went 41 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: back to Australia and I actually bought a nine whole 42 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: part three golf course and what was it, Wayne Riley 43 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: Path three? 44 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: And there you go? 45 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And originally and and and I had that, and 46 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: I got a phone call from Channel seven back in 47 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: Australia and they said, would you like to come and 48 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: do some en course commentary? And I was eleven o'clock 49 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: or nine. I was half a say. I said, sure, 50 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: you got the right right guy usual you know what 51 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: Wayne Grady or someone like that like that. They said, not, 52 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: it's you. We think you can do it, and that 53 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: was it, and then Sky got me and the rest 54 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: is history. I didn't find it very difficult at all, 55 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: and which is which is a bonus. You know, some 56 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: people struggle with it, and but they learned to do it, 57 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 4: and that's fine. But straight away I just duck the water. 58 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: I'd been in every predicament as a golf pro, up 59 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: trees everywhere, so I kind of knew how to call 60 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: shots reder. 61 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: Do you still own the PO three course? 62 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: No? No no. I leased that out for two years 63 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: to this guy and he started to steal from me, 64 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: so I ended up selling it back to him. I 65 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: sold it to him, I mean true, yeah, I leased 66 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: it to him, and there's ways that I shouldn't say this, 67 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 4: but he didn't steal, did you? 68 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: You just maybe a bit sketchy, I'm assuming it's not 69 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: Wene Riley P three. 70 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: It's Silver Slvania waters Bath three. 71 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Now there you go. 72 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: So after you were camping and working as a golf 73 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: pro playing these was it? 74 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Were they junior. 75 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: Tournaments in Australia you were planning at that time sixteen seventeen, Well. 76 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: No, they were. We call it an apprentice. I'm not 77 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 4: sure if it's the stay the same here in the States. 78 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: You have to work in a pro shop for three 79 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 4: years to become fully qualified, gotcha. Yes, you could fall 80 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: back on being a club pro if you didn't make 81 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: it on the circuit. So that's what I did, and 82 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: I did the whole three years, which was almost like 83 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: a jail sentence, basically selling Mars bars to the members 84 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: and cleaning their golf clubs and all that. I did 85 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: the whole lot. Do your lessons, No, I wasn't. You're 86 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: not allowed to us apprentice. Yeah you can now, But 87 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: when my day, it was, you know, thirty dollars a 88 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: week I used to get when I first started, and 89 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: it was it was very interesting. But I started that 90 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: when I was fifteen. It was a decent golf even 91 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: when I was fifteen. So I did it for three 92 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: years I was out at eighteen, but I'm fully qualified. 93 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: Never had to use it, but so it's been as 94 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: good as an Astronia motorbike. It's been useless really, but 95 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: I'm still a fully qualified golf brother. 96 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: So you're a PGF Australia member of the. 97 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, they always have been and pay it every year. 98 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: So whether they know I am. 99 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: You pay your dues, I do. 100 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: Wait, what what year did you turn pro and what 101 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: was the what were the early days like of your 102 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: professional career. 103 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 4: Well, that was around nineteen seventy seven when I had 104 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: to go and work in the pro shop, and but 105 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: I was out at about nineteen eighty one. I started 106 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: to play pro am. We've got an unbelievably good pro 107 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: am circuit in Australia where Wayne Grady, a major champion, 108 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: Ian Baker Finch, Greg Norman back in the day played 109 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: this pro am circuit. We all honed our game on that. 110 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 4: You know, playing five thousand dollars was a total person 111 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: If you won, you won seven hundred dollars and you 112 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: could just keep on going on to the next event. 113 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: They were all year round, except when the big tournaments 114 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 4: in Australia were happening. So it was a great place 115 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: to hone your game. Every single day. You'd finish, you 116 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: get in the car and you go to the next 117 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: one and they all in the same vicinity as each other, 118 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: so off you'd go, and then you'd play on the 119 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: proper tour when it started like October through December, and 120 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: then they'd start up again and the finish late February 121 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: with the Australian Masters, and then when you got your card, 122 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: you go and play in Europe or you play in 123 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: the States. So Australia's and it's still got a great 124 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: it's a great honing ground for young pros, but there 125 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 4: aren't big championships. We used to have like thirteen or 126 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: fourteen big championships and now they're basically is the Australian 127 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: PGA and the Australian Open. Because of the world schedule. 128 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: Now it's a world schedule. People go, why haven't we 129 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: got big championships down in Australia. When I go back 130 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: to Australia, But it's very difficult now because you know, 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: the same time as Australian Open, Tiger's got his event, 132 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: the Hero and so many things going on now. Sponsors 133 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: aren't interested anymore unless you've got great fields. Basically Scottie 134 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: Smith if they had at leash and these are kind 135 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: of great Australian players. If they aren't playing, sponsors aren't 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: really interested. 137 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: When did you start to show signs of being a 138 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: very good golfer? I'm always interested in when people see 139 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: a clicking, or when they start to see the results, 140 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: or if somebody tells them, hey, you've got some serious game. 141 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: When did you start to see your abilities click? 142 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: About nineteen to twenty I started to sort of win 143 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: these pro am events and then start top tens on 144 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: the on the circuit, and I won my first tournament 145 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: when I was like twenty one, being in Baker Beating 146 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: and Baker Vench in a playoff, a big event Victorian 147 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: PG eight and yeah, it just went on from there. 148 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: And then twenty two I came over and got my 149 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: card in Europe and off you go. 150 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: Was your first big win the ninety one Australian Open, No. 151 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: The PGA. But see, as I say, the thirteen tournaments 152 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: we had back in Australia, Yeah, they are all big events. 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: You know. We've got like Bob Shearers and Jack Newton's 154 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: blust from the past Baker, Finches. You know, all these 155 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: guys played in the events that we won, but they 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: don't hear of them now. But they are big events. 157 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: But my big yeah, the Australian Open would have been 158 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety one was my first big on. Everyone wants 159 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: to win the Australian openers in Australia even now it was, 160 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: but it was back then. You know there were three 161 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: and out of the four major champions in it. I mean, 162 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: it was a huge event in Australia Open. It is 163 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: it true? 164 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: You went birdie, birdie, birdie, and tell us about that 165 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: putt on the last hole or the last the finishing 166 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: stretch of that tournament. 167 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: Well, it's an interesting story because in nineteen ninety I 168 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: started with ping and and I won the Air New 169 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: Zealand Open by seven shots. And anyway, I hope we've 170 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: got all day and I got. I go back to 171 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: Europe in nineteen ninety one, and I parted it up 172 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: so badly. It was incredible with a short buttter. Nothing 173 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: to do with the part I just didn't line up well. 174 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: The holes were open and I found it hard to 175 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: square them up, and I thought I've got to start again. 176 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: So in about September, two months shy of the tour 177 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: finishing in Europe, I went back to Australia and I said, well, okay, 178 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to start and I'm going to become a 179 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: child again in the respect of I'm going to get 180 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: a long putter and I'm going to go out there 181 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: and find something that's different than using the short putter. 182 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: So I went back for seven weeks and I practiced 183 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: so very much with the long part. It didn't hit 184 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: a shot seven weeks, just parted every single day. And 185 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 4: I went to defend the Air New Zealand I don't work, 186 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: which I won the prey previous year in nineteen ninety 187 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: by seven shots, and I ran about thirtieth and I 188 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: didn't put very well. I thought, oh jee, I just 189 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: wasted seven weeks. Next week, next week I get to 190 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 4: the Australian Open and I played unbelievably like I had 191 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: all year, but wasn't partying very good. And I'm on 192 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: the about third down on the board going into about 193 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: the five holes from the end of the championship, three 194 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 4: shots back and I'm winging and whining, and my caddy 195 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: then Lindsay, she said it was a lady's great caddy, 196 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: good player herself. And she said, if you don't stop 197 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: whinging when you burdy these last four holes, you're not 198 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: going to remember it. 199 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: And I said, come come on, it's creak caddy advice. 200 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's all right, Shane. But then I hit 201 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: it to fifteen feet on the fifteenth miss of the game. 202 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: I said, what were you saying? So anyway, the next 203 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: path through I hit a five iron up there to 204 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 4: about nine feet behind it. Did then I hit a 205 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: one iron over the back of the green on a 206 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 4: par five seventeenth at Royal Melbourne, chip it down to 207 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: thirty feet because it was in a tangy light. It 208 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: was a good shot to get at thirty feet Ray 209 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: Melbourne Green's really fast in with this long part, absolutely marvelous. 210 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: So then all of a sudden I sling this six 211 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 4: iron right around the green on eighteen under the whole 212 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: thirty three feet. Well she didn't touched the sides in 213 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: she went as well, so and then they all started 214 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: to make a few boges, said coda. Uncle Rada prevailed 215 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: with the new putter. I mean you all should get 216 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: the long partter. It was a b ninety. 217 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: This isn't twenty twenty four though. I mean, there weren't 218 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: a lot of long putters out there. I mean, this 219 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: is this something somebody built for you. You go have 220 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: to go find it. I mean, how did you get 221 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: your hands on something like that? 222 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: What in the early nineties. 223 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: I looked at rock O Mediate, really mediate, he had one. 224 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: They were already Peter Sing and Sam Trans were already 225 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: using the chin one, only two of them. But Rocco 226 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: had this thing in his chest, yes, and anchored, you 227 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: bet you we were anchoring and it was it was like, 228 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: you know, I thought that really and then I grabbed 229 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: it and I clawed it and it was like and 230 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: I just kept on thinking, TikTok, like a grandfather clock, TikTok, TikTok. 231 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 4: And it worked. It was brilliant. 232 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: You see a lot of the you know, now the 233 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: stigma's gone, the ego's gone with the long putter, right, 234 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: it seems that you see a younger players doing it, 235 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: Folks struggling with the hebgb's doing it or not or 236 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: not the hebgb's. I mean, it's just a different technique. 237 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: I personally use it as well. It's not easy. There's 238 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: a skill to it. You need your stuff to do 239 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: a lot of things very mechanically with it, temple wise, 240 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: very important the pressure you apply to it. What advice 241 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: would you have for somebody that wants to try it, 242 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: they've never used a long putter, any technique things, and 243 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: any tips or tricks to somebody. 244 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as you do get over that, as 245 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: I said, the Grandfather clock, as long as the putter 246 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 4: does hang vertically, I feel almost like the toe heel 247 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: up just a little bit and it hangs down. And 248 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: you can get that thing just given it the TikTok, 249 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: the old Grandfather clock. If you can give it that, 250 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: and you know, it's almost as well with the long putter. 251 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: You know, in my day it was almost showing off, 252 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: Like you get onto the green and people go, look 253 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: at this guy, what's just thing? Not many people, so 254 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: they're already looking at you. Yeah, they're looking at you. 255 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: They were looking at me, and I was going, yeah, 256 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: here I am. You might be looking at check what 257 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: I've got here. You know, So all of a sudden 258 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: you've gone from the short part of where you didn't 259 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 4: want people to watch because it was like a live 260 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: rattlesnak in your hand and now you've got this, you've 261 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: got this TikTok thing go and you hold them from 262 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: everywhere and they're all going whoa. And we went through 263 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: that stage in the nineties where everyone started using it 264 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: and then it stopped. 265 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: It's coming back, though, Yeah, it is coming back. 266 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: Rad Are you you went rattlesnake there? I mean you're 267 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: from Australia. You could have picked any other of the 268 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: most poisonous snakes in the world. 269 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: You read belly black Sune, We've got a red bit. 270 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: You're talking to the American audience. 271 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: Well, that's what it's all about. Yeah, to know where 272 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: that came from. 273 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: Jake, twenty years on the European Tour. Now we've heard 274 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: so long about the European Tour and kind of the 275 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: fraternity that is the European Tour. I can only imagine 276 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 2: what it was like in the eighties and nineties. I'm 277 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: assuming you've got a couple of good storre worries about 278 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: touring for twenty years on the euro tour with some 279 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: of your buddies and stuff. So if you could share 280 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: a couple of well of those. 281 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: Types, it's just it's the stories are just you know, 282 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: because Basically, we didn't have courtesy cars like on the 283 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: PGA Tour. If you're a player, you get given the car. Yeah, 284 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: you pick it up from the airport, I suppose, and 285 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: you drive around. We used to have to get picked up, 286 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: you know, or catch a cab. And I remember it 287 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: was so strange to play on the European time. I 288 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 4: remember playing in Madrid once. So I'm playing in Madrid 289 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: and you had to get a golf club called Club 290 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 4: de Campo ported a hero, great course in Madrid. And 291 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 4: I get up and I jump in the cab on 292 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: Sunday morning, running about tenth in the championship, you know, 293 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: going in the week and not gonna win, but gonna 294 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: have a decent week. Get in the cab by myself. Anyway, 295 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: see all these people up the road, and I've got 296 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: an hour and a half until I head off. And 297 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: I stopped and I go, what's going on here? Matathon? 298 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: I said, what, So there's a marathon. Okay, so I've 299 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: got to get through this marathon. But I'm not allowed 300 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: to get through this marathons on there's police everywhere. 301 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: They're blocking off the roads. 302 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: So I've got the clubs in the boot of the cab. 303 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: Everyone's honking their car. If you've ever been a midman, 304 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: Madrid a magical place. So I ended up making my 305 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: Titan by three minutes. I had to run through and 306 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: a marathons. They shut a marathon down, and it's really wide. 307 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: It just isn't the street, it's the footpath people can run. 308 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: So I ran through a marathon with hundreds of people 309 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: with my bats ping of course on my back. I'm 310 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: running through all these people and they're all going, what's 311 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: going on? What's this guy doing running? But this is 312 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: the sort of thing we used to do. We didn't 313 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: get courtesy cars or go round marathons. They go, right, 314 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: today's a marathon, we've got to go around, so book 315 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: your car early. I had to run through things like that. 316 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: We used to have. Tuesday nights were legendary. We shouldn't 317 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: go into those too much. A little red eyed on 318 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: on Wednesday pro Am Day. But it's all The game's 319 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: changed so much for the better. But I wouldn't change 320 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: the days we used to. We used to play. If 321 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: you had an ordinary week, you wouldn't win that much money. 322 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: You had to play well the next week as well. 323 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: It was we didn't play for that much money back then. 324 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: It's changed. It's changed dramatically. These guys playing for twenty 325 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: five million a week and twenty million a week, it's 326 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: all and they're still winging. 327 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: Still, they're silf whining they can win, are still whining. 328 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: It's like, unreal. I can't get in that. We'll play 329 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: better man, go and play. Oh well, you have to 330 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: go back. You can't play for the twenty million with 331 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: the designated great events. You have to go and play. 332 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: Oh poor you, you have to go and play for seven. 333 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Really, I think you're gonna be okay. 334 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people should take a good 335 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: hard look of themselves and see how how lucky they are. 336 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: When Rory got the Curtis the police escort at the 337 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: Ryder Cup that one time and made his tea time 338 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: by about half an hour? Were you sitting there going 339 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: there's no stress in that. 340 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: I was there on that first jarge. I think it 341 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: was half an hour. 342 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: Show a little quit, little tighter. 343 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'd say he he parked ten minutes before. Okay, 344 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: it wasn't much more because I saw him walk on 345 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: the tea and they cheered him and he smiled and 346 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: madonah it was I was right. I just laughed. It 347 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: was just unreal. 348 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Flashbacks to Madrid. 349 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: Evans knows what he was doing that night. 350 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: Radar, tell us a little bit going back to equipment. 351 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about what ball driver. You 352 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: know you played in the eighties and nineties and and 353 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: and what your experience has been now you've played such 354 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: a broad spectrum of equipment much golf ball driver, metalwood, standpoint, 355 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: tell us all the job though. 356 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the old driver, it's been so long ago. What 357 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: was the silver driver that Ping used to have. They 358 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: used to have a three with the same Yeah, there 359 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: you go, yeah, those but back when I started with Ping, 360 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: you you you had? It was great, it was the best. 361 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you had to use thirteen of the fourteen clubs. 362 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: That's what cast has said. He said, you got to 363 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 4: use thirteen of the fourtune and I used fourteen, and 364 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: you had to use the putter. If you had a 365 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: Ping bag, There's no using someone else's butter, because that's 366 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 4: what Ping. It was the daddy of the butter. You know. 367 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: That's what and still is everyone's truck. If you look 368 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 4: at Scotty wats his name, I'm not going to mention 369 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: his second name. We're not even going to go there. 370 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: But if you have a look at that, it's a 371 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 4: copy of the answer, right, Tiger's putter that he hold 372 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: everything with that red dot. It's it's you just look 373 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 4: at it when it was down there. Well that's an answer. 374 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 4: So how how someone? I'm sorry, I'm not taken. You know, 375 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: I'm not upset in the apple card here, It's just 376 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 4: it is fact. I mean that. Well, you can't copy 377 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: what Carston did, but there it is, and everyone's going 378 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: Scotty's really really well, he's a few years late, I feel. 379 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: But I used all the clubs you had to and 380 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: it was an incredible time and I still do all 381 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 4: my clubs though I haven't got anything else in it. 382 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: I wouldn't dare because why there isn't anything as good. 383 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: And you had the big white staff bag, right, that 384 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: was the classic and that still is with the brand today. 385 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 4: You know what, Yes, I've got that big white staff 386 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: bag with my thing that I do I think called 387 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: round with Raider that comes out. But when I won 388 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: the Australian Open, I had a lady cat in for me, Lindsay, 389 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 4: and I had a little white bag that was the 390 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: same material. I'm not sure they still do it. I 391 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: really don't know, but it was the most unbelievably good bag. 392 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: It had the big Ping on there. 393 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah you still have it, you start it at home? 394 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 4: No, no, I don't. I might have gave it to Lindsay. 395 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: I probably did. But it's a beautiful bag and it's 396 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 4: not the big one. I've got the big one. Yeah, 397 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: but now you know, there's so many bags you can get. 398 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: I've got this little light bag that I carry around 399 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: when I'm in England and go and play it come, 400 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: you know, with a strap over. They're like, I'm wearing 401 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: a bra and you know, and I walk walk around 402 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: the golf course and it's you don't even know you've 403 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: got it on your back and it's you know, there's 404 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: so many golf bags that you can get now, and 405 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: you know Ping at the forefront of that as well. 406 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ping's still the best bag out there, that is 407 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: for sure. You mentioned around with Radar. How did that 408 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: come about? Because it's been a really really entertaining series. 409 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: I know people really enjoyed online. 410 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 4: Dominic Griff is the main man in the UK for 411 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: the truck and he came up with the idea. He says, well, 412 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 4: let's do a series of and go and play with 413 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 4: some some ping staffers. And we've done that in Europe 414 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: where we're yeah, you know, going to get some guys 415 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: over here on the PGA too. It's just hard because 416 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 4: I'm in the UK. And however that works, will make 417 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: it work. But yeah, it's been it's been great fun. 418 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: It is great fun filming and is unbelievable. Get the 419 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 4: drone out and it's watch it on YouTube. It's around 420 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: with radar, ping around with they're they're great fun. I've 421 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: done him and as I've gone so many good players 422 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 4: and it's they're brilliant that take us long to do 423 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: and every and we've got one little we've got one 424 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: camera and we've got a drone and all that sort 425 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 4: of stuff and the sounds great. People go well, a 426 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 4: many camera and it's it's incredible the way it's done, 427 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: and it's and it comes up and they're so popular. 428 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: If I come to America through Sky because you don't 429 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 4: watch Sky over here. The other thing you get on 430 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: Sky over here as the Formula one and and the 431 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 4: golf goes back to the UK. But when I come 432 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: over here, most people the Americans come up to me 433 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 4: through around with radar and they I've never heard one 434 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: person go to you that rad of around with radars crap, 435 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: it's we love it. So that's positive. 436 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: How's your game these days when you're playing with the pros? 437 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: I mean, do you still feel like you can kind 438 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: of get in their kitchen at all? 439 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 4: No? 440 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: Okay, not like you. 441 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: I mean you're out there. You know, you're one of 442 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: those wannabe players. I see. 443 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, what about that. I'm like your garden with 444 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: the chipping. I'm like captain of the wanna be pro 445 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: the team. 446 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's it's like, no, no, not really. I 447 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: played on Saturday and I was I wasn't very good, 448 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: but with my job, without jobs, you know what it's like. 449 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: I mean, you play for three weeks and you start 450 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 4: to become I'm shooting around par I'm having some funny here, 451 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: and it's it's great. Then you got a way for 452 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 4: through you don't touch a club and you go back 453 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: and you start again. 454 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: That's right. 455 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: It's literally like you with the long putter, right, It's 456 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: like going back to the first time you learned about golf. 457 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: That's what it's about. 458 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Shane is such a wannabe pro. It's still questionable whether 459 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: he has his amates status's. 460 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 4: Right, But I'm loving the us. 461 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Don't look in at this us. 462 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 4: I'm loving the back of the garden. The backyard. 463 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: What's the branding for it? Oh the griddle, the grid 464 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: shipping green. Unbelieve Yeah, look, look, you know what, you 465 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: know what. I messed up though. I did the bunker. Okay, 466 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: I did a little bunker off the green. Now I've 467 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: got two little kids, and that's now. 468 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: Just the sand pit. 469 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: Well that's it's it's fine for them to play in it. 470 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: But I come home from a trip like this, You're right, 471 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: sand everywhere. They'll be staying on in the halls on 472 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: the green, and I spend two hours cleaning it. So 473 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: the bunker might not have been a great play, but 474 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: I love having in the backyard. 475 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: Of course you do. Yeah, fantastic. Can you spin it 476 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 4: out of the bunker? Yeah? 477 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's I really don't hit a lot 478 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: of bunker shots there. It's truly a sandbox for you. 479 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: Just when you have people around for a barbecue, it's like. 480 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: I'll break it up and clean. 481 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: Oh you don't go to the bunker. 482 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but other than that, it's just the trucks and 483 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: stuff are in there. Where'd the hat come from? 484 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: By the way, My mom my mother, and she said, 485 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: you know you're going to do this on core stuff. 486 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: You know, you have to keep your complexion. You you know, 487 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: you're a good looking man, so you don't want to 488 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 4: sort of the sun to sort of spoil those rugged 489 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: good looks. So mom bought me a hat, and and 490 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: every time I now she doesn't buy me hat, so anymore, 491 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: I just go and buy one. Every couple of years, 492 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 4: I just go and and get one. In Australia's an 493 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: Australian hat. And it's it's been great, you know, it's been. 494 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: It's been. I didn't think I at the start, I 495 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: didn't want it to be something to make me known. 496 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: It was just I'm wearing the hat. That's the way 497 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 4: it is. And now everyone's you know, the hat in 498 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: america's not that cowboy and I'm like, yeah, mate, whatever, 499 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: pretty good American, right, Yeah. Well it's a it's a 500 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: good hat. They're good hats, and it helps you know 501 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: over here, especially the sun shining all the time, and 502 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: it gets a bit hard when you're in Scotland or Ireland. 503 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: That's blowing that you need the string a thousand. There's no, 504 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: it's amazing. It doesn't really come off and it's it 505 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: must be something to do with having a big fat 506 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: head mate. 507 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 2: You've done encourse commentating for a long time. Can you 508 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: name the three players that you enjoy watching the most 509 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: or when you get their groups you get the most 510 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: fired up? 511 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: You know, I'm so lucky, Shane that I don't have 512 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: to worry about I know. It's like I even so 513 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: much that I don't care who wins. Okay, I really 514 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: don't care who wins. I don't really have to know 515 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: what people say, What score do they? What score are 516 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: they on radar? 517 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: It's not my job. 518 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: It's not my job. My job is to concentrate on 519 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 4: how that was lying. My job is sight, sound, smells, really, 520 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: I mean, what they are facing, what is going on? 521 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: Is my job to know if he's one under or 522 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: two under? Is like I didn't know the first round 523 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: of the Masters. When I was out this year with 524 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: Scottie first round shot six under, I could have sworn 525 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: he was two. Really, I stood up on the eighteenth 526 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 4: green behind the ground and looked up on that big 527 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: wide board and I went, no, no, no, no, they've 528 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: got that wrong. Then you think this or no, there's 529 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: no way they've got that wrong. Here at the Master, 530 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 4: there's no way they're having it wrong. Six under couldn't 531 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: believe it. Well, I mean, I just I just I 532 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 4: just call what you guys, the viewing audience want to know. 533 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 4: So I don't Brory all these guys tigers, you know 534 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: back in the day that was I saw some things 535 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: with him. I mean I think we all saw some 536 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: things with him. You just shook your head and just 537 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 4: started laughing. And yeah, but watching guys, I like watching 538 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 4: guys play with long players. It was short watched the 539 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 4: way you know Kevin case New or someone like that 540 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 4: playing with Rory McElroy. See how he gets around and 541 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 4: there's a great job. 542 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think people that I mean, I've 543 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: done on course a little bit in my career, and 544 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: I don't think people quite understand the cadence that you're 545 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: going through. I mean, you're trying to stand one hundred 546 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: yards or maybe a couple hundred yards away from the 547 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 2: tee so they can't hear you. Maybe you can see 548 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: the club or you're just going up to the fairway 549 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 2: to get up there, so you get a number and 550 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: you can kind of look at the lie and you 551 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: can get out of their way. I mean, it's really 552 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: this kind of song and dance that I don't think 553 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: people that have either been out to a golf tournament 554 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: before are obviously done on course commentary understands that there's 555 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: this you're it's like a four and a half hour, 556 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, dance party you're basically having with the golf 557 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: course and try not to get in the player's kitchens 558 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: while also trying to get the information, you know, out 559 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: on the telecast. 560 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a very good point. Over here in America, 561 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: a lot of the on courses seem to stand just 562 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: on the off the tee where I am up with 563 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: the landingside right on is way ahead and I go 564 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: to sometimes I used to go to Bones. I said 565 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: what east, and well, I want to see what they 566 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: head off the team. I said, well, I can ask 567 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 4: my producer of the tea. I could just press a button. 568 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: They go, that's the last of the job for me. 569 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: That's the information you can see too that that's that's 570 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 2: not my first producer when I did it on course, 571 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: he said, that's not your job telling them driver a 572 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: three wood, it's like a poor three is different. 573 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: You know less. 574 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 4: But I can find that whether it's a five iron, 575 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: because what you've got to do is match. If he's 576 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: hitting the five iron on a past three, it comes 577 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 4: up on the screen. I can't go six one because 578 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: they're going to go on home. This guy doesn't know 579 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: what he's doing. So you've got a little bit of help. 580 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 4: But when it comes down to the meat of it all, 581 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 4: I have to be in front. I have to save 582 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 4: that balls in a divot. If it's over there under 583 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: a tree in the grass, I have to be up there. 584 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: And then I keep on going forward. And then I 585 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: when they hit the green, I can get up there. 586 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 4: Line the putts up, move to a high spot. I'm 587 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: nowhere near them. They don't even know they know I'm 588 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: out there, but I'm never in their way. And and 589 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: that's the way standing behind them, as a lot of 590 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 4: Americans do. 591 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, everybody's situation does. 592 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: Everyone's different. But I just don't see why they do that. 593 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 4: They're getting too close to them, and well there's potential 594 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: there for them to tell them to go away. Where 595 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: I'm seeing everything, but I'm just way in front of them. 596 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: Radar, if you didn't get a chance to read a pipe, 597 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: let's say you were Russian, or you couldn't get up 598 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: there in time, and the host says, Radar, what does 599 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: this putt do? What's your go to line when you 600 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: don't know what the putt does? 601 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: Well, I always see it because, to be honest with you, 602 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: the only reason I would do that is because if 603 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: I can't read it. Sometimes it's interesting, you know, with us, 604 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 4: even as golfers, you go, I don't. 605 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Know what this is going to happen here. 606 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: Most of the time, I'll say it on it I've 607 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: got no id ot to do. But my go to 608 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 4: line if I'm in a little bit of trouble out there, 609 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: Jeez tear what the smell of Burger's over there is 610 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 4: just unbelievable. The hot dogs, I mean, I mean, the 611 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: miss ohios that are out here are just unreal. Oh, 612 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 4: the winds just got up, gee, wiz might affect this part, 613 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: which is just a little uphill. 614 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: I remember I missed maybe but one of my first 615 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: time courus Marty, and I was like, I know, is 616 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: this is a really tough read? 617 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: Is what I said, Just throw it out there. 618 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 4: Sometimes you've just got to come out with things that 619 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: you know, other things. If you can't pick that. 620 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: En coourse commentaries or you carry Green's books, is that 621 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: a thing? 622 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some do. Some bring Greens books. Some 623 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: have yardage books. 624 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: I mean there's there's there's there's arrows in our Greens books. 625 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: But to be perfectly, you know, this is a one 626 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: that if I'm out there with Maltby, say Maltby or 627 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: another few guys will go together. We'll all because is 628 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 4: the same as me. He's always in front, even though 629 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: Roger's got a buggy and and and we we go 630 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: up there, we'll look at me and I'll look at 631 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: him right left, and they'll full go. 632 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: So there's a few of us crowdsourcing it. 633 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: You know, you get a line, we're all only human. 634 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 4: I maybe you get a read wrong. I mean, you 635 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: know it's going to happen, but you don't want to 636 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 4: get too many wrong because that's your job. I mean, look, 637 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: it's fun stiff on courses to me. 638 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: I just go on play now. 639 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of them out there. I'm not 640 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: going to mention any name and I'm like, wait a second, 641 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: come on, let's just get something. Give me something here, 642 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 4: give me, give me something, because it's at the end 643 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: of the day, it's golf is entertainment. This is entertainment. 644 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: What we're doing right here. We are here to give 645 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: them something, and you know we're just you know, boring. 646 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: I just don't think it cuts it. 647 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: But how do you mix that in because your job 648 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: is I mean, your job is to be informative, but 649 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: you're also very funny and you're entertaining. So how do 650 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: you weave that in as it's just your personality. 651 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: I don't try to be an. I'm not. I'm just 652 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm like this away from it, I'm just a bit mad. 653 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: Probably they should just lock me up. I suppose it's 654 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 4: a rubber room somewhere. But you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, 655 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: all of us. I mean it's like, you know, it's 656 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: just as I always believe it. It's entertainment and if 657 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: you can bring entertainment to it. Look, there's nothing wrong 658 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: with being stiff. And you know, this is an uphill hug. 659 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: There's a seven nine the winds out of the right 660 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: hand side. I mean it's like, I mean, you know, yeah, 661 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 4: all right, okay, but let's talk about something else. There 662 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: might be something funny. There's a streaker running down the 663 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: middle of the fairway. Well the cat the producer is 664 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: not going to show the streaker, but we can talk 665 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: about the streak. 666 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: That's right. 667 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: It's like, where did that happen? Tory Pines, wasn't it 668 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: Tory Pines? There was a streaker in the US Open. 669 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: Famous one was the daily one at the Open was 670 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: like the most famous I think streaker he chases it's. 671 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, but yeah, whatever's going on. There's so many 672 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: things to talk about out there in our job that 673 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: some people just miss a trick. But when they listen 674 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: to your podcast, guys here, yeah they're gonna go well 675 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: yeah maybe, but maybe they'll go non. 676 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Must not red or. 677 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: We've had a lot of tour players on the podcast. 678 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: I've liked auson the question of. 679 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: Like shaping the ball. 680 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: I like when I like when watching the elite players 681 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: move the golf ball high, low, left, right, right, the left, 682 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 3: who have in the modern era right now, Baba curves 683 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: it a lot. 684 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: Baba, yeah, Bubba, he just comes straight to mind, Yeah 685 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: doesn't he? I mean, just bend it like Bubba. I mean, 686 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: he just that shot at the Masters down the right 687 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 4: hand side with that wedge, what was at one hundred 688 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: and fifty or something around there. That was an incredible 689 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: shot that made Bubba that shot. I'm not sure if 690 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: that was his first Master's win or his second Masters 691 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: win first first. Yeah, and he he just bends the 692 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: ball so so so it just it's quite incredible. But 693 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: now we are looking at Scotty. Scotty, Scotty, he can 694 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: he can shape it, especially with the driver he gets. 695 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: Seems does this seem to miss a fairway? 696 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler, It's a really long and really straight. It's crazy. 697 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: He just finds a lot of fairways, you know, for 698 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: a longer player. 699 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: It's just an incredible golfer and an incredible person. 700 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: Yep. 701 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 4: He really is always remembers my name and he's just 702 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: a lovely, lovely guy. But the golf ball, I don't 703 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: believe lends itself to bending it. Like when we were younger, 704 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: I was younger that the old remember the old tool Bilata. 705 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it was like chewing gum was like 706 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: a piece of like a piece of putty. 707 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: You could get your finger and. 708 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 2: Oh you could you could you could run old one. 709 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: I had irons when I was a kid. This was 710 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: before pro v days. I had irons and it had 711 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: a little globe in the middle of the iron, right 712 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: in the sweet spot. And I remember I was playing 713 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: a tour blata and I was, you know, ten, eleven, 714 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: twelve years old, and I munched one and it was 715 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: one of the first times I could really feel like 716 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: compression with the iron. And I got up there in 717 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 2: the little globe in the middle of the iron had 718 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: been imprinted in the middle. Oh yeah, likes, I'm taking 719 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: this out of the play. 720 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean bending the golf ball. It's a very 721 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: good question. They seem to bend the golf ball now 722 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: a lot with the driver predominantly from left to right. 723 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: Can't really do it from right to left trampoline effect now. 724 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: But you know, Rory is about the only guy who 725 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: draws when he's driving the golf ball. He's best hits 726 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: a soft right to left draw. There aren't many guys 727 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: that do it. Scotty can do it. Tiger obviously back 728 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: in the day, could do it. But if you look 729 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 4: at the guys that you know, you know they want 730 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: to just fair way find it and hit that. They 731 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: hit it low and they just peel it, but when 732 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: it comes to their eyns, they don't move it that much. 733 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what I've noticed. But I'm interested 734 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: in that. You know, I see like a player like 735 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: Justin Thomas. Yeah, you know, curving it into different pins 736 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: and things that. 737 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: But he's unreal. He's beautiful. When he was playing his best, 738 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 4: that driver, that low. 739 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: Thing is like when he won the players. 740 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: Remember he hit the shell on sixteen, that was the 741 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: swinging dry and then on eighteen he hit the low 742 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: one EGA. 743 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, he had that thing going. 744 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had Yeah, But then we had Victor on 745 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: right after, right before he won the Tour Championship, when 746 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: he was playing his best, and we asked him and 747 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: he's like, I just hit a dead straight with parents. 748 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: He don't want it to fall in when he was 749 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: playing his best. 750 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, Victor, right now, you know he tinkered. Victor's going 751 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 4: to be back in five seconds. I mean, Victor's going 752 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: to be absolutely funny. He's just one of those guys. 753 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what he why he did it, you know, 754 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: tried all this stuff and he's not playing awful. But 755 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 4: he's Look, this guy works so hard and he's a 756 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: golf junkie, junkie and he will be back within either. 757 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: Don't worry about Victor, Victor. Do you've worried about Victor? Amus? 758 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: Did he win last year thirty five million? 759 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: Ye, he had a pretty decent year. 760 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 4: He's about twenty twenty three and he could own Oslo 761 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: where he comes from. 762 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: Red Or how often you're on the road, Like, how 763 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: many weeks a year you on the road? Twenty two 764 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: weeks a year? 765 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: Twenty two weeks. I just a few other things for ping. 766 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 4: And you know, I love twenty two. I used to 767 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: do like twenty seven, but now it's twenty two. It's 768 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 4: perfect for me. Well, he's me trying to play golf. 769 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: And I mean, I met you at the President's couple 770 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: years ago at Liberty National, and I've been a fan 771 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: ever since. I find you again. I think you do 772 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: a lot of what I love about golf. You make 773 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: it fun, you make it entertaining, you kind of keep 774 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: it light and at the same time, you know what 775 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: you're talking about. So I've been a big fan for 776 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: a long time and we really appreciate the time. 777 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: And it's been great thank you ever so much, loving you, 778 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: loving your work. 779 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: Though Radar Wayne Riley, thank you so much. This is 780 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: the ping proven Grounds podcast