1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of Clay in Bucks 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: starts right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us. 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Clay on vacation in Italy. I believe he's in Roma 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: right now, so our thoughts are with him and his 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: family as they are eating some delicious pizza, which we, 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: of course in this country call pizza and uh yeah, 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: he's having a good time. So we have some updates 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: here on the financial financial front for you just to 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: keep an eye on all this, because the biggest story 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: in the country, and in fact the biggest story in 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: the world right now, is the oh rickety unsecure, swaying 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: back and forth structure of our banks at this point 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: in time, right it's not looking good. It's not looking 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: like this is going to head into a healthy direction. 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting Kevin O'Leary of Shark Tank, 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: we played some sound bites from him yesterday. I know 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: he was on Sean Show last night and Kevin O'Leary 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: had billions of his of dollars of companies he's involved 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: with in Silicon Valley Bank. But to his credit, he's like, look, yeah, 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: I got money there. I got money all over the place. 22 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: A lot of people have been hit by this. When 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about two hundred billion dollars of deposits that 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: covers a broad swath of territory. I mentioned to you 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: the massive Swiss bank credit Suits, which is pleading now 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: with the Swiss Central Bank for support. Shares of credit 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Suits have gone down thirty percent. Also Moody's and the 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: SMP jumping in with different cuts to the status downgrades 29 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: I should say, to the status of bonds of some 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: of these banks. First Republic Bank for example now at 31 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: junks status and the big four banks are in a 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: difficult spot for right now. Not not a perilous spot, 33 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: but there there's stocks a little bit down today. Let's 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to overstate anything here, but the stocks 35 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: are so people are worried. Obviously, people are concerned, and 36 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: I think what you're really going to have to look 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: for is the rate hike going up, the hiking rates 38 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the next time around. If they do that, I think 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: you got to assume we're heading into a recession. Probably. 40 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: If they don't do that, well, then we're just gonna 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: keep having inflation continue to eat away at your savings 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: and make everything more expensive, and there is no good 43 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: option here, and that actually makes sense. And I think 44 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: that's the part of this that's so hard. This is 45 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: the cause and effect portion of our monetary policy and 46 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: our national financial reality, that if you spend too much money, 47 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: you will create inflation. And then if you spend too 48 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: much money and try to bring inflation down by bringing 49 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: interest rates up, you will have a reduction in the 50 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: money supply and economic activity and a likely recession. They 51 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: keep saying, well, if we do it the right way, 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: if we just do it just enough, it's going to 53 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: be perfect. There are a lot of assumptions built into that. 54 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: And I think given that we just saw a bank 55 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: run and some bank failures that seemingly came out of nowhere, 56 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: they didn't. Of course, they were growing for a long time, 57 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: but we certainly weren't hearing about it. You got to 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: be prepared for what they say, expect the unexpected in 59 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: the financial world, or Rumsfeldian unknown unknowns. Rumsfeld was quite 60 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: a character back in this day, very smart, very impressive guy. 61 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Rack War didn't turn out the way it was posted, 62 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: but Rumswell was an interesting fellow. Now I'd mentioned to 63 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: you switching gears here. I just want to keep I'm 64 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on the financial realities, and I'm also 65 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 1: reaching out. I mean, I've got We've got a couple 66 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: of We've got a couple of MBAs in my family. 67 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: We got a banker in my family. I mean, I 68 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: got a lot of people that I can tap for 69 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: their knowledge of how these systems work. And then all 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: what I was graduating from college, the two jobs that 71 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: everybody went into, at least out of my school. I 72 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: went to Amherst up in Massachusetts, which, yes, is one 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: of these places that has woke and has completely lost 74 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: its mind if it ever had a mind to lose 75 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: even when I was there. But Amherst and many other schools, 76 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: everybody went into investment banking or management consulting. That was 77 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: I went into the CIA different path, But investment banking, 78 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: management consulting, those are the two things that people wanted 79 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: to do. And I do think that a lot of 80 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: that world has changed dramatically in the past twenty years 81 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: such that well, anyway, I try to encourage people to 82 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: do things that they at least would like to do. 83 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: You want to find that sweet spot for anyone who's 84 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: listening who's still figuring out what their career might be, 85 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: or if you've got kids who are going to be 86 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: thinking about this soon. You want to find something that 87 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: you are both interested in. Not that you it's a job, right, 88 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: it's not. You're not going to pay to get a BackRub. 89 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: There's gonna be work, there's gonna be frustration, there's gonna 90 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: be time, there's gonna be a lot of stuff you 91 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: have to give to it. But something you are interested 92 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: in and that you can be compensated enough for your 93 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: lifestyle choice. That's what I try to tell people. So 94 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: you have to be you have to be willing to 95 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: do it a lot and grow your skill set within it, 96 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: which requires interest. Otherwise you're just going to burn out 97 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: and lose your mind and be miserable, and nobody wants that. 98 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: But you also want to make sure you know, you 99 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: know what the upside of it could be financially. Now, 100 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: that does not everybody has to be a banker or 101 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: investment banker trying to be a millionaire. Obviously people are 102 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: finding out maybe we have too many of those anyway. 103 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: But you know, if you're if you're gonna be a 104 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a guidance counselor you're not gonna 105 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: make a million dollars a year, which is fine, but 106 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: you just got to know these things when you go 107 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: into it, right, you've got to understand what role you're taking. Anyway, 108 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: speaking of colleges, Wellesley College, Wellesley College, Hillary Clinton's Almamona, 109 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else, who else? There's all 110 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: these schools of famous people who didn't matel Did mattel 111 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: An Albright go to Wellesley? I want to say that's 112 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just making that up. I'm just going by 113 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: memory here, folks three hours Alive Radio. You've got to 114 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: come up with a lot of stuff on the fly. 115 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: But Wellesley College is in the midst of a very 116 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: interesting debate. It's a women's college, right, very straightforward. You 117 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: could only go there if you're a woman. I went 118 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: to college down the street from down the street, roughly 119 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: speaking a few maybe you know, seven miles and twelve 120 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: miles respectively or something away from Smith and Holio Colleges, 121 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: which are also women's colleges. I believe they're called the 122 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Seven Sister Schools, but that that maybe I may be 123 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: mixing some of them up. So Wellesley has a problem 124 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: on a chance because women who make up the student body. 125 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh by the way, I'm right, yeah, Madeline Albright team, 126 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: did you already know that I nailed that one. I 127 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: don't know why I second guessed myself when it comes 128 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: to random trivia on the fly, I'm pretty solid. So 129 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Wellesley College has had a referendum. It is non binding, 130 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: but students have called for the women's college to be 131 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: open to all non binary and trans gender applicants, including 132 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: trans men. So you are now going to have, assuming 133 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: the university or the college in this case allows this, 134 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: you're going to have biological males attending a women's college. 135 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Now I do wonder what the realm, what the rules 136 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: and regulations for this are going to be, Like, how 137 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: would they even judge? As they say, it's if you 138 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: have been there some verbiage in here that says if 139 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: you live your life as a woman, then you qualify basically, 140 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: oh sorry, consistently identify as a woman is the term 141 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: of art I think they have used here. But the 142 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: the president, Paula Johnson, is getting some pushbacks. She says 143 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: that Wellesley was found that the then radical idea that 144 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: educating women of all social economic backgrounds leads to progress 145 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: for everyone. As a college and community, we continue to 146 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: challenge the norms and power structures that too often leave 147 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: women and others of marginalized identities behind. The students entirely disagree. 148 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: They are all freaking out, and they are saying that 149 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: we need to include trans men, right trans trans or 150 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: no trans women, sorry trans women. Men who are now 151 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: identifying as women. You know, I gotta tell you, if 152 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: I were a woman, and I'm not and I do 153 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: not identify as one, if I were a woman, I 154 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: would find this all so offensive, honestly, And I guess 155 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: at some level for men, the notion that a man, 156 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: that a trans man would be able to sit down 157 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: across from me and give me a lecture on manhood 158 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: that I would listen to, that I would. I would 159 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: want to hear her lived experience about being a man 160 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: for I don't know, six months, three months, whatever it is, 161 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: as women have been subjected to as you've seen recently. 162 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,479 Speaker 1: I mean, there's this video that's circularly everywhere of Drew Barrymore, 163 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: who has a daytime TV show which I I didn't 164 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: know it was possible to have a lower IQ show 165 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: than the view. But there is a Drew Barrymore daytime 166 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: TV show, and and she's kneeling and hugging the transwoman 167 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: who went to the White House and Biden sat down 168 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: with and the trans woman who was lecturing women on womanhood. Basically, 169 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: you're saying, you know this is let me tell you 170 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: all about my womanhood as a guy. It's just this. 171 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Every guy, every guy that I know, without exception, would 172 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: just think it was absurd, to the point if they wouldn't, 173 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: it wouldn't even connect. They wouldn't even pay attention. If 174 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: a transgender man, a biological female sat down, you know, 175 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: cut her hair short, wara were like a you know, 176 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: a plaid shirt. You know it's a little big, and 177 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: started telling the guys about what it is to be 178 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: a man. Look, if people want to dress however, they 179 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: want to cut their hair, that's all fine, no problem 180 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: with that, of course. But the notion that we're supposed 181 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: to see the superficialities of style choice as somehow indicative 182 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: of the innate and immutable characteristic of one's gender, what 183 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: sex you are, is crazy. You can sit any woman 184 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: in the world down across from a man and doesn't 185 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: matter what she identifies as the guy is going to 186 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: sit there and be like, I'm I'm not listening to Well, 187 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: a normal man of reasonable mind and testosterone levels would 188 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: sit there and say, I'm not going to listen to this. 189 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: But women are being told now that it's almost as 190 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: though they have something to learn from the trans women 191 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: who have been women for like a few minutes or 192 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: a few months or whatever. I just find it. I 193 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: find it on behalf of women. I wanted to be offended. 194 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: I guess I can't do that because I'm not a woman, 195 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: but I would find it just so. Oh so someone 196 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: speaks in a high sort of a high voice, grows 197 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: their hair long, maybe has breast implants put in, and 198 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: puts a lot of makeup on their face, and now 199 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: they understand what it is to be a woman. That's 200 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: because they say, so, this is where we are. I 201 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: would be fascinated to be in these Wellesley classrooms where 202 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: these trans male students are being or I think they're 203 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: already being admitted. I can't even keep up. I think 204 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: if you're like nonsis gender, it's the stuff is difficult, 205 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: I know, or you speak in circles about it because 206 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: it runs in circles. The whole thing is absurd. But yes, 207 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: we are at the stage now where women's colleges are 208 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: admitting men under the idea that they're actually women. And 209 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: this is what is happening. Whether it's official at Wellesley 210 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: yet or not, or whether it's just this gender non 211 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: binary or actually trans or whatever, that is where we are. 212 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: I bring this up well for a lot of reasons, 213 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: but it reminds me what we're talking about the last 214 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: hour with Vermont and this school system and competing against men, 215 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: and I would just say, you know, women having to 216 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: compete against men. They keep telling you that this isn't 217 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: the plan, and it absolutely is. They're lying to you. 218 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: This is their agenda that we are reacting to. 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I want 242 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: to open up lines to current or former military listening 243 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: to this right now, because the Pentagon is brief being 244 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: as we're speaking to you, on the Russian jet hitting 245 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: and bringing down that US Reaper drone and it has 246 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: turned into General Mark Milly, the Chairman of the Joint 247 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs of Staff, and Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense, 248 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: just just talking about the blank check for Ukraine. I mean, 249 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: we got to get them more, more stuff, faster, more stuff, faster. 250 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: That is all I ever hear from DC, the Pentagon, 251 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: the brass the White House. They're never remember. In the beginning, 252 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: there was and this was the same by deministration. In 253 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: the beginning, there was, Hey, I don't know, we shouldn't 254 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, we shouldn't give them planes no fly zone. 255 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: That can get messy. But that was the only place 256 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: that I could see. So far there has been a 257 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: line drawn other than we're not going to just have 258 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: US US military act killing Russian forces, open conflict, declaration 259 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: of war with Russia. Yeah, okay, everyone so far has 260 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: agreed that we shouldn't do that. But should we do this? 261 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I just feel like we had twenty years of war 262 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: in the Middle East and South Asia, and we've had 263 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: millions of veterans go through those conflicts. I think I 264 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: think it's something like three million Americans, two to three 265 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: million Americans in that range I believe went down range 266 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: in Iraq, Afghanistan and other GWAT hot spots, you know, 267 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Global War on Terror hot spots, and we couldn't you know, 268 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump somehow kept us from starting or getting involved 269 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: in any new wars for four years. Now we're here 270 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: and we're getting drawn deeper and deeper into the biggest 271 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: conflict in Europe since World War Two, A modern a 272 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: modern war with military terri's that are you know, losing 273 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: large numbers of soldiers and there seems to be no 274 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: end in sight. And right now, in General Millie is 275 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: saying that Russian troops are demoralized and untrained. Okay, you know, 276 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not saying that's on true. You know, 277 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: he has a lot more access and stuff than I. 278 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: It used to be more interesting when I talked about Afphetiss. 279 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 1: I saw everything that the generals saw, etc. I mean, 280 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: I was it's a whole story about that. I could 281 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: maybe tell another time, but I for a period of time, 282 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: I was seeing all the country level assessments, everything at 283 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: the top secret level and all this stuff. 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We are 312 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: being told right now by Lloyd Austin, the Secretary Defense. 313 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: He just said it moments ago. Is about the rules 314 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: based international order. Oh okay, I can tell you what. 315 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: I want to go and fight in Ukraine to protect 316 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: the rules based international order. I don't think. So what 317 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: do we do about China just breaking its agreements with 318 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: Hong Kong and violating the rules based international order by 319 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: effectively consuming whatever freedom's Hong Kong had and ending them. 320 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: We knew very much. There are a lot of things 321 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: where we don't do very much because it's a big 322 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: world out there, and the Pentagon is still going through 323 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: this briefing and it's here's what we know. We had 324 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: a SU twenty seven Russian fighter jet that Colli I 325 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: did with an m Q nine Reaper drone, a US 326 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: drone surveillance drone in international water over the Black Sea, 327 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: and the Russians are saying it's our fault. We're saying 328 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: it's their fault. There's also reporting that there was a 329 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: fuel dump, So planes obviously can drop fuel mid air 330 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: if they want to get lighter or whatever. The pilots 331 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: and the audience can fill in more on that, and 332 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: they say that they dumped fuel on the drone. Then 333 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: that brought it down, and the drone is downed in 334 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: the Black Sea, and we are trying to recover it 335 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: right now. Because of the technology involved, and obviously the 336 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: US investment, these drones cost many, many millions of dollars, 337 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: so there was this was an act of aggression. The 338 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: Russians had to know that this was ours, and they 339 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: decided to They decided to mess with our with our drone. 340 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: The SG twenty seven was able to land, and the 341 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Russian Defense Ministry, by the way, saying that the US 342 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: drone was flying near the Russian border, intruded in an 343 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: area that the Russians declared off limits, scrambled fighters to 344 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: intercept the drone. Claim that it's not look, you know, 345 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: this is where we get in the back and forth. Obviously, 346 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm as team America as anybody's ever going to get 347 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: and I'll say that, and I'll fight it and fight 348 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: on that issue until my dying breath. But you know, 349 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: not everything the government tells us is entirely true. So 350 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: I do want to look and see what the possibilities 351 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: are here. You know, I don't know who blew up 352 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: the Russian pipeline. It wasn't the Russians, folks. It wasn't 353 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: the Russians that much. We know that was a while ago, 354 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: remember that one. Unless the Russians like to make themselves 355 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: more poor for some reason when they have basically their 356 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: entire economy hinging on whether they can get enough fossil 357 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: fuel to market. So I'm just looking at this and 358 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to come up with where this is all 359 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: supposed to go. I mean, what are we really going 360 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: to do? You know, Lindsey Graham's out there saying that 361 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: there's be accountability. Okay, what does that look like? We've 362 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: sanctioned Russia globally? We are giving the Russians, opponents, the 363 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: Ukrainians all, I mean, basically, whatever we can give them 364 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: that will help them right now, short of a no 365 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: fly zone, aircraft and you know, I don't know, probably 366 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: some other advanced systems but we're giving them a lot 367 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: of stuff, a lot of military material, and they're killing 368 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: a lot of Russians with it. A lot of Russians 369 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: are dying from missiles, artillery rounds, bullets, etc. That we 370 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: are providing Ukraine with. So there's notion that over the 371 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: drone incident there's going to be accountability. I just see here. 372 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, hmm. I don't like empty rhetoric from people 373 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: that are supposed to be above it and thinking more strategically. 374 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: What does if accountability means calling the ambassador and being 375 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: very upset? Okay, sure we can do that. I'm sure 376 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: we've done that. But is this supposed to be an 377 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: indicator of something else another shift in policy? That's where 378 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: I get concerned. We got a lot, we got a 379 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: lot of military that listens to this show, obviously a 380 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: lot of current and former military. I want to bring 381 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: in some of your voices on this one. Tim and Harrisburg, 382 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania retired Air Force pilot, Tim, what do you what 383 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: do you see going on here? No? I'm not a 384 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: retired Air Force pilot. I'm a retired Air Force retired 385 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Air Force Sorry, go ahead, sir, Yeah, I think we'll 386 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: being manipulated and our usual response and people who know 387 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: if there's a crisis somewhere, we want to jump in 388 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: and help in some fashion or another. But I think 389 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: we're being manipulated. I think we're bleeding down our resources. 390 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: We never get paid back for what we do. You know, 391 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: there's no there's no recompense for it. I think the 392 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: problem is that the movers and shakers on an international 393 00:23:54,520 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: level are thinking strategically and we continue to react quickly. 394 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: It's like play check and somebody else playing chess. That's 395 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: what I think. I appreciate you calling in, Tim, Thank 396 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: you and thank you for your service. Terrence is a 397 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: former fighter pilot down in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida, the 398 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: Sunshine State. What's going on, Terrence? Hey, good to talk 399 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: to you. I do too say. The first time I 400 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: talked or listen to you, you were talking about the 401 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: parish piece of climate accord. Yeah. Sure, yeah, that that 402 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: night and I said, hey, this guy that, this guy's 403 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: pretty smart. Thank you for saying everything I wanted to 404 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: say that night. Anyway, Um, dude, or bringing down the drone, 405 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: I guess it didn't shoot it down. We don't know 406 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: that the fuel dump thing. I didn't know they had 407 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: dump on them. We had dump on our F fort 408 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: but we didn't have dump on our F sixteens. So 409 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: how they brought it down is uh to be found 410 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: out later. If you ever find the thing in the US, 411 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: can I just ask you about what? So you said 412 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: you flew an air airframe that did have fuel dump? 413 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: What what's the why do you use fuel dump? What's 414 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: that for? Is it just if you got to get lighter? 415 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: I mean, well, what's the circumstance you'd want to do that? 416 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: At four had fuel dump? And uh, what would you 417 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: would do is immediately after takeoff you get dumped your 418 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: internal or your wing fuel, not your internal fuel, and 419 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: you would dumped that to get lighter to land in 420 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: the case of the emergency. The same thing with airliners 421 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: that flew Blowing seven six sevens, Bowing triple sevens, and 422 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: they they had dump on it for the same reason. 423 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: You know you're on fire. Immediately after takeoffs you start 424 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: getting rid of the fuel. So I gotta assume, right 425 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: the the the Russian SU twenty seven involved here far, 426 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's you know, they're saying it was the 427 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: aggressor here it's highly maneuverable. The Russian pilot must have 428 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: known that this was a drone, got close to it, 429 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: so they brought it down. Is there a way they 430 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: could bring it down? I mean, like I guess the 431 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: best way to ask, how do you think they brought 432 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: it down? Because initially they said there was a collision. 433 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, could could the plane have clipped the wing? 434 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: I have to say that the fuel dump thing is 435 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: is bogus because evaporates so rapidly. A vaporizes as soon 436 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: as you dump, and there would be no way that 437 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: How would you measure how far to get in front 438 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: of the thing and then start dumping in front of 439 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: it unless you had somebody on the wing telling you 440 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: how to back up into this drone, which would be 441 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: something unless you did a lot of times, wouldn't be 442 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: real safe. So that drone was brought down some other 443 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: way than being fuel dumped in front of it. So 444 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: is it fair to say though, that in a fighter 445 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: plane airframe like the Russian SU twenty seven, any kind 446 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: of intentional like you know, back in the day of 447 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: ship warfare, if you could get back in the galley 448 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: warfare for example, or tryreems if you could get your 449 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: bow lined up against the against the starboard or stern 450 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: or the other person. Right. Um, if you could get 451 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: your your front, you could slice right through them and 452 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: your boat would be fine. There's would be but a plane. 453 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: You're not going to clip the wing of a of 454 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: a drone intentionally, right because you'd risk your own plane. Yeah? Right, 455 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: well you have there are there. We're tipping things that 456 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: the British us to do with the uh the buzz bombs. 457 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: They tip them. They come up and put their wing 458 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: underneath of it and tip it over. Okay, flip over? 459 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then we flat I flew over defense 460 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: in Taiwan um back in the the early seventies, mid seventies, 461 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: and we actually had a ramming procedure. Wasn't there anything 462 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: that I was wanting to do? But yeah, I can 463 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: imagine why. It's that that tipping procedure something. They must 464 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: have done something here because it doesn't sound like they 465 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: they fired I mean I think we would they fired 466 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: a missile, right, so it sounds like there was some 467 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: other mechanical way they brought it out. Thank you for 468 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: calling in. It's fun to get a fighter. See you 469 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: get a fighter Pallett to calls in right away. I 470 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: actually had a we had a fighter Pallette over here 471 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: yesterday Carrie's dad, who was an fifteen eighteen pardon me, 472 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: naval aviator F eighteen. I gotta get this stuff right 473 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: F eighteen pilot. So that was maybe I'll ask him 474 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: next time I see him. He might be over by 475 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: the end of the week. I'm gonna ask him. How 476 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: could you How could you take out a reaper drone 477 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: when you're in a fighter plane without shooting it? What 478 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: would be the way you would do that? Home movies 479 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: might be a thing in the past, at least in 480 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: the traditional sense of someone in the family lugging around 481 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: a video camera to every event. 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You 507 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: got to subscribe to the Clay, Travis and Bucks Show 508 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: podcast and by doing so you will have access to 509 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: our deep dives. A Jedediah Bila, formerly of Fox News 510 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: and The view a friend of mine for over a 511 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: decade now. Just we had a great talk about a 512 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: whole range of social, cultural, political issues. Makes for a 513 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: good listening. She's a lot of fun, she's fearless. But 514 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: you got to listen to the or you have to 515 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: check out the podcast of the Clay Travis and Buck 516 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Sexton show. It's in that feed. So even if you're 517 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: listening on the radio show, you got you gotta be 518 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: a podcast subscriber for that one. Plus the Sunday Hangs. 519 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: We put those in there too. You might learn about 520 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: the Denarius if you didn't already today joining us after 521 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: I talk about that. Other fun things on the Sunday 522 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: hang as well. We have we have an actual drone pilot, 523 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: Bruce in New Mexico. Bruce talk to us. Hey, y'all know, Yeah, 524 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: I was the MQ one Q nine SMEE at the 525 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: Pentagon SMEE being some pretty bad at expert for four years. 526 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: What can I tell you about the m Q nine 527 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: that would help? How could they have brought this thing? 528 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope you heard the conversation with the 529 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: F four pilot. How could they have brought this thing down? Well, 530 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: it's they're they're very fragile, to tell you the truth. 531 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: And they didn't that way specifically to be light and 532 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: be able to go airborne. The m Q nine, I 533 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: don't know which version they had, but you know, a 534 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: full twenty four hours worse if they're not carrying any 535 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: ordinance on it and just a bunch of gas. Normally 536 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: we did in q nines around eighteen hours, in q 537 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: nuns about twenty to twenty one hours. But they're light, 538 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: they're fragile, and you could clip a wing and do 539 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: some damage. You could get in front of it and 540 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: cause enough turbulence to actually break lock with the satellites 541 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: and send it into a Really it's possible. And if 542 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: if they if he was, if they were just stupid 543 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: and they clipped the prop with their radar dome, which 544 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: they may have done, it would have shad the fiberglass prop. 545 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: Do you do you think, by the way that I 546 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: mean asking now for the manned side of the aerial 547 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: equation and the expertise you can give us on this one, 548 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: do you think that the Pentagon is planning to do 549 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: massive training and then or you know, a training program 550 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: and then deployment of American planes not manned by us, 551 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: obviously by Ukrainian pilots, But is that going to get 552 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: introduced into this theater or warfare? Do you think in 553 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: the future. You know, that's that's a really good question. 554 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: I think it would be rather silly if we want 555 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: to give them the hardware and let them do it. Okay, fine. 556 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to say was Lindsay Graham 557 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: needs to check himself before he recks all of us. 558 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: That was a piece of fiberglass that we sent up 559 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons we like it so much 560 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: is because there's not a little pink but sitting in 561 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: the seat of back. Yeah, it's a different I mean, 562 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: we all can recognize it's a different thing to shoot. Yeah, 563 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: it's expensive, but Uncle Sam's got pretty deep pockets. To 564 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: bring a drone down is a very different thing than 565 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: shooting a pilot out of the sky and having his 566 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: family given a folded flag, right. I mean, we all Russian, American, 567 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: anybody would understand that. So I don't know, I don't 568 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: know why people listen to Lindsay Graham on this stuff. 569 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a senator and he's been in the 570 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: game a long time. Thank you for calling in Bruce 571 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: from New Mexico. I appreciate it. We had to look 572 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: at This is what I always love. I can sit 573 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: here with this audience, it is amazing. I can crowdsource, 574 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: particularly on firearms history, anything military related. I can crowdsource 575 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: the most specific question imaginable and I'll get an answer. 576 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: I could ask somebody, hey, if the third widget from 577 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: the left on the rotor of a Blackhawk helicopter has 578 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: come a little bit loose, what can I use in 579 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: my toolbox? I will have like a night stalker mechanic 580 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: calling in within within five minutes telling me exactly how 581 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: to fix. It's amazing. But we can bring to bear 582 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: on this show anyway. We've got call. I mean, we've 583 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: got some emails into I wanted to get to. Let's 584 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: see this one. This is instance from Andy. It goes 585 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: to the Trump desantists throwdown, which is it's underway, folks, 586 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: it's happening now, right. We didn't want to get ahead 587 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: of ourselves, but you know there's there's friendly fire getting 588 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: thrown around here. That's that's what's going on. I Clay 589 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: and Buck and we better. I suppose if the Donald 590 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: made nice and acted a bit more civil toward Descantists, 591 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: but don't hold your breath. President Trump, for all his 592 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: brilliance and common sense, though he showed terrible judgment with 593 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: some of his picks, the people he picked. We're living 594 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: through a very crass and vulgar age in America. And 595 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: who is the crass vulgarian with the common touch, of course, 596 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: the man of the hour sent by the Lord. Some 597 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: say I personally am sitting on the fifty yard line 598 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: on this though I have voted for him twice and 599 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: will again third time, though somewhat leary. He leaves Versailles 600 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: on the Atlantic to give a rally to the trailer 601 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: park in Alabama to people that are holding on to 602 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: being middle class? Is this what politics is? So? You know, 603 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: he says Donald is right in the war in Ukraine, etc. Etc. 604 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: Thank you best, Andy. Look, you know people are gonna 605 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: get this is gonna be a very passionate debate, and 606 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: people feel very strongly about it. I have people reaching 607 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: out to me on both sides. And it's interesting because 608 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: every the people that I know who want to Scantists 609 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: to win this primary are all overwhelmingly saying things like 610 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: I voted for Trump twice. I respect him so much. 611 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: I like him so much. The Trump people who now 612 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: when I say Trump people, I'll vote for Trump obviously 613 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: if he's a nominee. Any Republicans should vot for Trump 614 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: if he's a nomineque. We're just talking about primaries right now. 615 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: But people who have already said they're all in on Trump. 616 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: They don't say de Santist is a clown, I don't 617 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: like um, he's a no, no no. They say he's 618 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: a very good governor. His time will come. So it's 619 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: really interesting because you're gonna see this huge fight, but 620 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: both sides respect the primary combatant that is the choice 621 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: of the other side. I feel like that's that's uncommon. 622 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm really seeing this a lot. You know, the people 623 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: that are the most ardent Trump primary voters to be 624 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: obviously it hasn't happened yet, they all tell me they 625 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: think DeSantis has done an amazing job in Florida and 626 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's deserves a lot of credit and 627 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: his day will come. That's that's what I'm hearing. I mean, 628 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: not from absolutely everybody, but ninety five percent and all 629 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: the Descentis people I know are saying Trump is amazing 630 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: he built this movement, but we think, because of his age, 631 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: YadA YadA, to be very interesting to see where this 632 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: all plays out and where it goes, and we're excited 633 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: to be a part of that conversation with all of you. 634 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out with us, Talk you tomorrow.