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Speaker 2: Bow on the east side of Cleveland, and of course

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Speaker 2: the Great z and Gibbe on Gibe's birthday at the

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Speaker 2: undisclosed location. Apparently of HouseGuests as well.

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Speaker 3: On the I'm pretty sure they're on camera. We got

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Speaker 3: think on the stream though, we got we.

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Speaker 4: Are on the stream. What dogs are Oliver and Roxy? Oliver.

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Speaker 3: Roxy is a little nervous, but she comes by and

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Speaker 3: she like licks my hand twice and then she puts

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Speaker 3: her tail to her legs and runs away again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's very cute. It's not the most ideal scenario

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Speaker 4: to day, but we had some.

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Speaker 2: It's birthday. What you want?

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Speaker 4: Well, it was planned construction, but unplanned on when we

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Speaker 4: were going to start it and we found out last night. Ah,

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Speaker 4: this is this is what happens sometimes.

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Speaker 3: I just want to know what you would have done

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Speaker 3: in the event that we were in the dog bowl.

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Speaker 4: Well, if we were in the dog bowl, I could

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Speaker 4: have worked from home. Sure, right now.

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Speaker 3: This is your second this is your this is your home.

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Speaker 3: I feel I love the idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a sitcom waiting to happen, like.

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Speaker 3: Going to do this, Like, but we got these two

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Speaker 3: dogs right now eating their bones.

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Speaker 4: Roxies over the sa peanut butter bones for one o'clock.

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Speaker 4: So that way we're not barking.

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Speaker 3: We're not getting gotten through that peanut butter. He's he's

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Speaker 3: housed it. And big Boy the man does. The man

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Speaker 3: likes food. He has not cheated at the child.

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Speaker 4: The sauciage is is what we call him. We even

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Speaker 4: had a house. We had a house guest today.

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Speaker 3: Boy the great loose Lou just showed up after chopping

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Speaker 3: down some trees.

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Speaker 4: Was across the way the woods. He was in the woods.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you throw out of three Browns

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Speaker 2: or whatever the beer is from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Well, we gave him a cool He asked for a nice,

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Speaker 3: a nice cold water.

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Speaker 4: You got that? So okay? He was like he came

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Speaker 4: out of the woods. He's like, hey, uh, can can

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Speaker 4: I get a water? I'm like, yeah, you want anything else?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's great.

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Speaker 4: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: Oh there they are.

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Speaker 4: Ill, Oh my god, rifle them all up.

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Speaker 2: Those are the dogs I had as kids. My dog's

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Speaker 2: Rambow and Slippy. We're both exactly those guys like black

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Speaker 2: and whites. The best dog.

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Speaker 3: Oh great, he's a good boy. Big kisser, big kisser.

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Speaker 3: Oh take my posture. We lay down, gibas I've enjoyed

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Speaker 3: Gibe's dog training. Hey, go lie down. That's so far.

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Speaker 3: That's what it's consistent of. That's it's convinced by the way.

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Speaker 3: They have yet to listen to any of his commands.

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Speaker 3: And it's a stressful. They're they're stressed.

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Speaker 4: That's how this.

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Speaker 3: Roxy no olive sad noo. How are the boys straight?

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Speaker 3: Infirmary Day three, Day two? Uh, No one's at school,

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Speaker 3: no one's no one could go. It's we're in the

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Speaker 3: we're in the throes of it. It was brutal last night,

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Speaker 3: so they couldn't do anything last night. I took NBC

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Speaker 3: He wasn't having any of the bodily fluid exchanges. And

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Speaker 3: want to start balling, Like that's all I want. That's

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hardly ever golf all The only reason

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Speaker 2: matter who cares what you show, what you score, Well,

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Speaker 2: a nice night. It was beautiful, played nine in an

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Speaker 4: It's great. Yeah, perfectastic. It was a great day for golf.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of respite there yesterday, had a nice

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Speaker 3: one up. Yeah, I went thirty five on the back nine.

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Speaker 4: Lock it up nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was fun, it was a it

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Speaker 3: was a good time. I'm I'm envious, obviously what you said,

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Speaker 3: Al Boots. He is, well, he's not smacking the golf ball.

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Speaker 3: Tonight's a spring concert. The viola, he's and he's become

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Speaker 4: Theyre gonna do a little Pirates of the Caribbean theme.

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Speaker 2: Which is that's a great theme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great theme. So I'm excited for that. That's that's

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Speaker 3: on the docket for for this evening, and that's very exciting.

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Speaker 3: And it's too cold. It's all of a sudden it's cold.

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Speaker 3: And it's so funny that two months ago, fifty six

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Speaker 3: and we still should be. But yeah, all find it

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Speaker 2: It's the the sun will make it. Tomorrow we're one

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Speaker 2: So it's fine, it's all good. Uh. Forty four for

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Speaker 2: pretty crazy? Yeah, yeah, as in you with the kid.

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Speaker 2: I No, the kid was he was fifty four, but

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Speaker 2: it was we now we played women's teas. We played

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Speaker 2: because we like playing the same the same grouping. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's the first time I kept scored

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Speaker 4: So just let it go, baby, you're set high and

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Speaker 2: Let it fly a little bit. Give a what do you?

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Speaker 2: What's uh? What was your greatest birthday as a kid?

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Speaker 2: What was your greatest birthday as a kid.

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Speaker 4: I could tell you the worst.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want the worst, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear about something at Bowl and Green.

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Speaker 4: No. I literally had for the kids and like my

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Speaker 4: else was what yeah, how well the family was already coming,

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Speaker 2: Got them like that day, Oh my god. And so

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Speaker 2: you're upstairs or whatever, like listening to your party.

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Speaker 4: Going into the bedroom. Great, great, great party?

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Speaker 2: What oh good?

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Speaker 4: It just happens. Uh? I mean my twenty first was

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Speaker 4: pretty epic. Yeah, I bet I'm trying to. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Like every year, like my parents, my

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Speaker 4: mom made my birthday cake every year. Wow, she designed it,

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Speaker 4: she made it, she decorated it, like it was always

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Speaker 4: that that was really awesome that, Like, I had some

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Speaker 4: unbelievable cakes, and it was always like my parents always

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Speaker 4: made it a party, whether it was my sister's mind.

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Speaker 4: They went out of their way and then they would

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Speaker 4: do it like a kid party. Like I think the

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Speaker 4: one time growing up like that, my dad took eight

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Speaker 4: like that was pretty awesome. Yeah. Right around my birthday

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Speaker 4: in eighty seven, I was ball boy for the Indians

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Speaker 4: for a game. Come on, mm hmmm, is that like

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Speaker 4: a third base lion first base line?

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Speaker 2: What do you get with the eighty seven Indians?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 3: Brooke Jacoby Jacoby, alright, hold on, let me see if

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Speaker 3: I can get a couple of these guys, because I'm

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Speaker 3: the easiest of place on that team.

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Speaker 4: Was Joe Carter. Joe Carter was on that team, A

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Speaker 4: great Swindel, my favorite player. Yeah, and he was pitching

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Speaker 4: that night Andy Allenson and at the catching position that

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Speaker 4: once got beaten up by Mark maguire. Really and a

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Speaker 4: base brawl. Oh yeah interesting.

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Speaker 2: How does it make you feel that we that that

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Speaker 2: we just named more nineteen eighty seven Cleveland Indians than

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Speaker 2: I could name twenty twenty three Cleveland Guardians. I mean,

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Speaker 2: for sure I could I know more. Yeah, now if

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Speaker 2: I went to one game, I'm sure there's more people

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Speaker 2: I know than I realize. But we just did like six,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I could name six Guardians did we have?

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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 4: Was it Matt Williams around at that time or Paul Sorrento?

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Speaker 4: No later, that's nice. Pet Table yeah, Pet Tabler, great,

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Speaker 4: Pat Tabler.

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Speaker 3: Doug Jones, Doug Jones, was there thrown knucklers yep, closer yeah,

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Speaker 3: Doug Jones? Oh yeah, baby, Scottie Bails and Rich yet

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Speaker 3: Rich yet?

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Speaker 4: Uh huh?

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Speaker 2: What's the year there on the cover of s I

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Speaker 2: six eighty six.

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Speaker 4: I believe, yes, okay, And it was like, yeah, there

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Speaker 4: one there at Municipal Stadium. There might have been five

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Speaker 4: thousand people in his seventy three thousand baseball seat stadiums.

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Speaker 2: Well, Major League was on last night as I was

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Speaker 2: watching the NBA, I was watching that in commercials and boy,

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Speaker 2: that's great and that's all that time period. Yeah, fantastic.

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Speaker 4: My my buddy got a bit roll. He was the

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Speaker 4: guy at the beginning playing stickball. He was one who

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Speaker 4: hit the ball really playing in the street.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic, Like they were they auditioned for people. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: I that's cool. I look, I appreciate it. I don't.

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Speaker 4: It's weird now it is. I find it to be weird.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know, like if it's just another day,

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Speaker 4: I find it to be weird. I'm like, now, what

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Speaker 4: do I do? Like I'm forty six.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think what do you mean? I think what

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Speaker 2: it is is. It's like I'm kind of with you.

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Speaker 2: I don't I'm not big party guy. Now. I know

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Speaker 2: you are a big party guy, but I don't like

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Speaker 2: a big to do about me.

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Speaker 4: I'm not not about me. I like parties, yeah I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'll go to people's birthday parties. I enjoy those, like,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not it's not like my God bless my

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Speaker 4: wife woke up this morning, wished me a happy birthday,

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Speaker 4: brought me a brand new brought me a brand new

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Speaker 4: golf club. What what uh a new gap new gap wedge,

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Speaker 4: which is something I needed. And then some golf balls

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Speaker 4: and did her thing, and you know, like celebrate a

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Speaker 4: little bit, and she's like, go, it's like golf league night.

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Speaker 4: I got it. Like go and Joy Gibe is gonna

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Speaker 4: be running a wild tonight. I like, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I'll be wild, but I'm gonna be hurting tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Well, but how would you know if you didn't see.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Like Mitch Richmond, there

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Speaker 2: He ignited every fast break. They were up between ten

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis was unbelievably at forty and ten. He was

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Speaker 2: it a very fun series. But it was a fun watch.

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Speaker 2: It was a good one.

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Speaker 3: I mean Jokic, every time I watch him or I

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Speaker 2: I mean, he reminds me of who from a size

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Speaker 4: He's like.

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Speaker 3: He's like if our Venus the Bonus came to the

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Speaker 3: he was because he was he's such a such a

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Speaker 2: I mean most of it was in the first half.

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Speaker 3: Now he had a triple double on the third, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Caused him some trouble with his length, Like Davis blocked

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Speaker 2: was sensational. So I think it's gonna be a really

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Speaker 2: good series. Though, because the Lakers didn't do the thing

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Speaker 2: The second half was a lot of fun. The preamble

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Speaker 2: to this was the NBA Draft Lottery, in which San

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Speaker 4: So sure you still want that draft lottery? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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Speaker 4: It's awesome here.

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Speaker 2: As soon as they hit the music, get oh my god,

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Speaker 4: Awful. Great.

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Speaker 2: I don't need even Denver or Detroit. Rather, why does Detroit?

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Speaker 4: San Antonio is not like a great market, though it's

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Speaker 3: Though if they were going to do some though I

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Speaker 2: Houston's probably more dynam mc market for the NBA than

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Speaker 4: When right, you'd have to get him?

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Speaker 2: But San Antonio, you want to talk about best chance

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Speaker 2: I think I think is a home.

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Speaker 4: I flew Windy to Paris, Yeah, to do like I.

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Speaker 2: Hit it did the nine seventy second hit and he

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Speaker 4: Story is it a boy Wendy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out there living, out there living.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: When I was watching it though, there it was the

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Speaker 2: drama when that. When that happened on live, I thought

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Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun. I would love to

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Speaker 2: see it in the NFL. The the uh did you

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Speaker 2: see the woj comments?

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Speaker 4: No? The greatest story like in the lottery room. No.

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Speaker 2: He he was on television yesterday afternoon saying women Yam

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh I saw your tweet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's stop it just stop.

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Speaker 4: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Stop.

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Speaker 3: He has so far to go to even I mean,

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Speaker 3: Lebron was said to be that guy Charles Barkley. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, And I saw people say there was some

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Speaker 2: just led Sarahcuse to a national title. But that was

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Speaker 3: of debate on everything. So if Lebron if under the

437
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: exact same set of circumstances Lebron happened today, there would

438
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: be debates of people saying why you couldn't take Lebron

439
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: and why you had to take Carmelo, just because that's

440
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: what those shows are. You need two people on opposing

441
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 3: sides of things and then they'll.

442
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 4: All argue it.

443
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, back then, you didn't have That wasn't the way

444
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: that that wasn't the way that news was done. That

445
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: wasn't the way that sports media was covered, and so

446
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: you didn't have you didn't have that.

447
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: It was. It was Lebron James the end.

448
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: Beyond that, even if you even if you don't want

449
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: to use the Lebron one, there was another one in

450
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: our lifetime that was a sure thing that whoever got

451
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: it was going to be relevant quickly, and that was

452
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal. Shaquille O'Neil. There was no debate, and that

453
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: was a good draft Like that had Latner, that had

454
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: Alonzo Morning. There was no debate when the Orlando Magic

455
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: won the rights to draft Shaquille O'Neal like that. We

456
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: had seen him for three years at LSU. He was

457
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: the most dominant force physically that you'd ever seen because

458
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: none of us saw Wilt Chamberlain, so there was no

459
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: doppelganger for him physically, his athleticism, all of it. Like

460
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: this kid is seventy five, two hundred pounds.

461
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

462
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Speaker 2: Give me the list of guys with that height, that

463
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: that build, that that go I'm not say sure, seven six, yeah, yeah,

464
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean that's what you're talking about. Like even Chet Holmgren,

465
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: who's seven to one, like he lost his year last year,

466
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: the kid who played at Gonzaga, and this kid's better

467
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: than him. I get it. But physically to say there

468
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: aren't questions about him is just nonsense.

469
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Speaker 4: Right.

470
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: I would even say the last guy that remember they

471
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 3: were really Zion. I felt like there weren't a lot

472
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: of questions about the guy hasn't played at all. I

473
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: guess his body was the only question because he tore out.

474
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Speaker 4: Of his shoe.

475
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: But Duncan, Duncan was Duncan was known.

476
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Speaker 3: I'd even go when you said NFL, when you said

477
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 3: sure or sure, thing like that, I was thinking Andrew Luck.

478
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: Luck was Lawrence had.

479
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luck was the one that was just definitely, there's

480
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: no question he's number He.

481
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: Was going number one. Sean Bradley was seven six show.

482
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: Bradley is a bigger guy. This kid's a guard. I

483
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: mean he's a center, right wing. He's got a wing

484
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: skills to the new game. I just think that, you right,

485
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 3: what's amazing about Lebron is Lebron is six seven six

486
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: eight and what two point fifty and he's built like

487
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 3: a tight end, and so he's been able to have

488
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: the longevity. This guy, to me, looks like somebody who

489
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: is going to be awesome when he plays, and counting

490
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 3: on him to play entire seasons feels wild.

491
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: He's kind of built like bowl bowl, isn't he? Yeah?

492
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Speaker 2: I mean he's like it's like if Durant was taller

493
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: by six inches.

494
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: By six inches, and Durant has been.

495
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: Pretty banged up he yeah, mm hm.

496
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: But he And I think when you get longer and

497
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: those limbs get longer, and those legs, especially in that

498
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: knee gets there's more I don't know. I mean, this

499
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: guy's got so to think about to be mentioned like that.

500
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: We're all prone to hyperbole, this is, that's what we do.

501
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: But to be mentioned in that for the kid, I

502
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: think is even a tough situation to know that. Okay,

503
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: so for the next twenty years, I have to be

504
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: one of the three, if not the best player in

505
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: the NBA for twenty straight years and at the end

506
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 3: of this be considered whether it's Michael Jordan, or whether

507
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: it's me or Lebron, or maybe you could argue for

508
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: a Kareem or a Wilt Chamberlain as the greatest of

509
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: all time.

510
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: It's what makes what Lebron has done and what he

511
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: still has to deal with all the more impossible to

512
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: comprehend that he was annointed at sixteen, delivered on all

513
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: of it. Is the NBA's all time leading score, exceeded

514
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: even the wildest expectations for what was capable, and there's

515
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: still somehow he's got to deal with critics, and it's like,

516
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: my god, like what more? What pound of flesh?

517
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: I mean, it's we're sitting with every box at the

518
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: undisclosed location with the biggest critic I won him a championship.

519
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: Him and Bayless, him and Skip Bayless his boys.

520
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 4: Oh, whoa, don't put me in that.

521
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 3: What do you mean you were rooting against him? You

522
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: hate him, and you'd have no thanks at all for

523
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: the championship. He brought you the only championship, by the way,

524
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: in your life.

525
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: Again, So what your in laws leave every winter? Do

526
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: you hate them?

527
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: No? I love them, and then I go to Florida

528
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: and enjoy their comment.

529
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, what a great line of question. Yeah he's

530
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: been there like four times three, but who's counting?

531
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, easy there. Vacation boy, vacation boy. Oh you're like, hey,

532
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm out next week and oh, by the way, there's

533
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 4: second week at June that might be out again. Yeah,

534
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 4: it's all good. Wait, you in the big city.

535
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: You gotta take it. Yeah, it was, we'll handle it.

536
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 4: It's gonna be taking vacation too.

537
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: And I imagine you're not done taking vacations either, nor

538
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: should you be, because starting July the twenty second, it's over.

539
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: Brother. For July eleventh, when we get back, why is

540
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 4: it over? July eleventh, it's over. There's nothing going on

541
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 4: still in July eleventh, we are back to full speed

542
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: ahead in studio that.

543
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 2: I'll believe that when I see it.

544
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're going to mean frankly, i'll see

545
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: it mid August, but we need to be July twenty

546
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: second is when this season starts, and then.

547
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: It is we're going going early West Virginia and that's

548
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: early Yeah.

549
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: Mountain Mama, Yeah, July home country. But what's going to

550
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: be different on July eleventh than June twenty But we

551
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: will be back like things are going on the following week,

552
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 4: the eighteenth.

553
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 3: That week, well maybe that week, but not the eleventh.

554
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Eighteenth is Elite's a week that it starts. The eleventh's safe,

555
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: You'll be here.

556
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: There's nothing I think I'm gonna be.

557
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: We will take some vacation on the level.

558
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: I think for me, the start of the season will

559
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: be the opener. The week of the opener, that's where

560
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: you the attention. That's when you'll let my attention. I

561
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: don't care, you know, well, I wanted to ham. I'm

562
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: excited for half week. I'm excited for half.

563
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: Week half week, and I think we're gonna have your

564
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: attention for the what is considered the tune up preseason game.

565
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: Right, which would be.

566
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: I won't have I don't care about the game. I'm

567
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: more interested in the city. I'm more interested in the

568
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: the practices in Philly. I think that will be very critical.

569
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 4: You get How interested are you? Eh?

570
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: You guys are like family. Can't you just tell me

571
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: what you see?

572
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: I think there's come on to consider your brotherly love. Dude,

573
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: me you together? Give a said it's all we're only

574
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: there like four days or something like that.

575
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: Come on, give me said.

576
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: One day like that, he said, I want both to

577
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: come to the city of brotherly love with me.

578
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 4: I watched Fansky to take us around.

579
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: That would be fun. That would be fun.

580
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: You would be cool.

581
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: It would be as if we get his dad too, Yeah,

582
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: get to give take us around town.

583
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: His dad and I bonded over Elijah more. Let's go.

584
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what. That would be fun to cruise because

585
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: he coaches not coach is no fun in season. He's

586
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: not gonna be any fun to be locked in, locked in.

587
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: But there's a day like if you have practice Monday Tuesday.

588
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not gonna he's taking a day off.

589
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no. We need ed get

590
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: ed to show us around Philly. That's that's friends. Yeah,

591
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: there you go.

592
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: That's what we need made us because crew.

593
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: Yes, you need the crew, and then you'd get like

594
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: a fun tour of the town.

595
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: I think, why don't we do with that as our

596
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: as our show that day, We'll just go around with

597
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: them and we'll pod.

598
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: We'll be live for two hours. Crews around town.

599
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: So you're in now, tape segments, tape segments around going around. Yeah,

600
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: that's it. That's how you Liberty Bell.

601
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need the site where they signed the

602
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: declaration independance. We'll make a declaration. Well, give me the

603
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: growing up tour. We should do the CB local watering holes,

604
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: the declaration of of CBD from where they signed the

605
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: declaration of independacle.

606
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: We lay out exactly what's going to happen this season.

607
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: We decline it now that I'm in sure, that's it.

608
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm in for that. Yeah, I'll do that with it. Yeah,

609
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: that's what we can do that game.

610
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: Wait, that'll be a nice logistical nightmare for me.

611
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh baby, I don't think even just time it up.

612
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: Just time it up, time it up, no big deal, giveb.

613
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll just call in. You can't call in watch us.

614
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: No, that show that day would have to be taped.

615
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: We'd have to tape the segments. We'd have to tape

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Speaker 2: like throughout the day, right throughout the day.

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Speaker 3: And then at ninth nine thirty we're at the Liberty Bell.

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Speaker 2: will you opt into this? I think it's going to

653
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: be very tricky how this how this goes. I don't

654
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: know that I think the thinking was that this would

655
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: be okay, everybody's in the game, But I don't know

656
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: if that's going to be the case. I think it's

657
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: pretty I think it's still a little bit of a

658
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: sticky spot until they get a union and have some

659
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: universal representation.

660
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: I certainly hope that they you get everybody in there

661
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: that you can.

662
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: I feel like that would be a good thing. I'm

663
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: excited for the game.

664
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: I hope that the gameplay is excellent and that's it

665
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: pushes Madden to be better.

666
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: I always felt the college game was better than Madden the.

667
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: Same, so I'm hoping that it can maybe make that happen.

668
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: I find Madden year to year to be no different,

669
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: so very little, such subtle differences. I don't notice. We

670
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: get it every year for the kids. Yeah, and I

671
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: don't play it much, but we hop on and I

672
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: play it, and I'm like, Okay, this feels like last

673
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: year's version, just with updated rosters.

674
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: It definitely evolves the problem is that it evolves like

675
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: eight times during.

676
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: A season because it.

677
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: Has what you would call them, and there are people

678
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: who are professionals who just go in the lab, as

679
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: they say, and can figure out all the routes that

680
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: beat these coverages and blah blah blah, and then they

681
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: make changes because you know this one play is unfair,

682
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 3: and then they change it back and all these things

683
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: that continue to happen.

684
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 4: It's just that game is.

685
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: So I feel like there's either are people who play

686
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: Mad casually and then they're like the professional Madden players shook,

687
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: you know, and it's just people who are watching, you know,

688
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: they subscribe their websites, he stribe to and they give

689
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: you a whole game plan out of each playbook. And

690
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: what if you're in this playbook and you run this

691
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: play you put this guy in motion, you audible his

692
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: route to this, and then it breaks basically the AI's

693
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: ability to handle the coverages. So it's it's a bunch

694
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: of glitchy stuff they need to just I don't know,

695
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: I wish it's almost like there should be two Maddens,

696
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: like normal people Madden and then the people that are

697
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: doing all that stuff, because it's funny when I play.

698
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: If I play and I play somebody who is playing

699
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: kind of normal man, that is, you know, doing any

700
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: of the glitchy stuff.

701
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 4: I'm very competent.

702
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: I probably can win eighty percent time as soon as

703
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: I play one of the people who are doing the

704
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: They know how to make their blitzes and move people

705
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: around so that nobody can be blocked because the AI

706
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: can't handle it and all this nonsense. It's like it's

707
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: not even it's ridiculous, not even fun.

708
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't there's not a whole lot of fun

709
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: in that. It doesn't seem. I also thought, for me at

710
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: the college game versus Madden back in the day, it

711
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: was the college game captured the feeling of college football

712
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: more than the NFL. It captured like all the warm

713
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: and fuzzy things about college football, sure tageantry, and it

714
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: doesn't to me. It almost feels like the end of

715
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: the Madden Game. Because a lot of these NFL's places

716
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: do have specific culture and pageantry, but it feels like

717
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: every stadium you play in is the same. Even though

718
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: they're different looking, there's no different feel to it to me.

719
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: I think they've done a better job in this most

720
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: recent one of that of giving like the stadium some

721
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: feel and some of the chants that you're here, or

722
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: the you know when the Eagles score, they do their thing,

723
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: or the train in.

724
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: Buffalo and all of that kind of stuff.

725
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: So I think they they have tried to do that,

726
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: but I don't think there's anything compares with the unique

727
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: pageantry of college football. And so yeah, I think that

728
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: that's something that you'll get which will be awesome.

729
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Uh, where's this? Givea this DeVante Adams story. I missed

730
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: this this morning. Give me the background on this.

731
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 4: So he was on the ringer, Okay, pulling it up now,

732
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: I saw this stuff.

733
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: When he was saying, how you know it'll say that

734
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: he didn't need Aaron Rodgers. The numbers stayed the same, basically,

735
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: how great he is? You know that stuff.

736
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: So here we go. The front office thinks this is

737
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: the best bet for us right now to put us

738
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: in a position to be urgent, Adams said. He told

739
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: the ringer his vision of contending for Super Bowls is

740
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: out of alignment with what appears to be a retooling

741
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 4: or rebuilding off seas in Vegas. The front office thinks

742
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 4: this is the best bet for us right now to

743
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: put us in a position to be urgent. Adams said.

744
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: We don't see eye to eye on what we think

745
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 4: is best for us right now. Adam has revealed the Raiders'

746
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: front office does listen to his opinions on personnel decisions,

747
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: something he expressed gratitude about. He says, I'm going to

748
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: have to buy into this and try to be as

749
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 4: optimistic as possible. It's not what I expected to happen,

750
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 4: but it's something that's the reality now.

751
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: I think fair Like he went there to play with

752
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: Derek Carr. Yeah, that's that was his quarterback in college.

753
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 2: So that's why he went to the Raiders. That's why

754
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: that all happened. But this was not in the brochure.

755
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: I gotta say this, like, the Raiders weren't good with

756
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, and you were in the same division as

757
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: Mahomes and a guy named Herbert Like and then Russell

758
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: Wilson was there. So I don't know if you like

759
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: you knew you were going somewhere that might not be,

760
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: not even the second best team in your division. That's

761
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: on you, buddy. Well, but he was your he was

762
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: going to catch balls from his college quarterback.

763
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: Yes, that was Don't tell me about winning, because that

764
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: was definitely not in the thought that the.

765
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: Multiple times Gibbe I would say, also, in general, you

766
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: are the most surprisingly pro owner human I've ever met,

767
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: your pro boss. Everything that that anyone authority like it.

768
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: You signed a contract, show up and play, take care

769
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: of your business, and you'll get rewarded, if not by

770
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: the team that that has your rights as a player,

771
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: by another team in free agency. Quentin Williams I saw

772
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: today is not happy about stuff. And I don't know

773
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: what the Jets are doing, but they didn't. Doesn't look

774
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: like they're going to pick up his contract.

775
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: After he's gonna end up being the highest paid interier

776
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: defensive lineman in the league.

777
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: Okay, listen, they've got Aaron Rodgers, I.

778
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: Think in the NFL, Gibbey, I feel like in certain

779
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: sports and you don't see this as much in other sports,

780
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: like certainly not in in basketball because they signed fully

781
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: guaranteed contracts. In the NFL, when your value changes and

782
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: you have the leverage to make sure you're compensated at

783
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: your value, I don't blame these players at all for

784
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: doing it, and I never I don't like to talk

785
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: about other people's money, Gibbet. You want to take it

786
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 3: out of their out of their hands.

787
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: But he got paid. What are you complaining about?

788
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: Because his value has changed and in the NFL, your

789
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: career could be over in an instant it's a I

790
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: think it's a very different sport, and I never begrudge

791
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: players who have earned this doned.

792
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 4: It wanting to get more money.

793
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: Is this a money or is this a schief about

794
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: the direction of what he.

795
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 3: Said Beef about the direction he was talking about Quinn

796
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: Williams the second ag.

797
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, the Quinn Williams one, yeah, yeah. The

798
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams thing though, It's like, this case is not

799
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: what I signed up for. Like I came here too

800
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: because I thought Derek Carr was going to be here

801
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: and then you send him packing. And obviously the one

802
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: thing that Carr has that Garoppolo doesn't is arm talent.

803
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 2: So if you're Devanta Adams, you had fifteen hundred yards

804
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: and fourteen touchdowns last year, You're going those are probably

805
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: going bye bye.

806
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's keep doing that. Well, I think with Garoppolo

807
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: he can still be productive. Deebo Samuel most certainly was,

808
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: but it will be a very different manner in which

809
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: you will be productive. And I think he's also looking

810
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: around and he's saying, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo was able

811
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: to run Kyle Shanahan's offense at a very high level

812
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: and he's got familiar with Josh McDaniels, and that's fine

813
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: and good, But those teams won because of their unbelievable

814
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: ability to run the football, but then to be an

815
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 3: incredible defense, one of the best defenses in the NFL,

816
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: and that's why they were able to make it to

817
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: the level that they were. And I think he's looking

818
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: around and he's saying, it's so hard to imagine being,

819
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: you know, a team that's going to be able to

820
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: win in that style in this AFC. It's an arms race,

821
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: it's an air show. You've got to be able to

822
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: throw the football, You've got to be able to light

823
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: up the scoreboard. And I think that it's I'm sure

824
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: he's looking at and saying that we got a guy

825
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: who has been an incredibly efficient game manager, who has

826
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: been a winner, no doubt about it, but is not

827
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: somebody that we think is going to consistently light up

828
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: the scoreboard.

829
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Right and statistically, therefore neither of lie crouped. Yeah, there's

830
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 2: that part of it. Chris Sims has started his Top

831
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: forty countdown Quarterback Countdown. He's through six four. I know

832
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: he'ster six. He's got Desien Ridder forty, Sam Howell thirty nine,

833
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: and then he goes with the rookies. Of course, in

834
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: classic Chris Sims fashion, he goes Bryce Young, who's kind

835
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: of universally the number one, and he has him third,

836
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: then Stroud and Richardson. Does he have Levis out ahead

837
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: of him too?

838
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: He stopped there. The rest of the next set is

839
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: coming out today. He must And I'm assuming it goes

840
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 4: back to my point. You're the Falcons.

841
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: You have a chance to get a quarterback, or to

842
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: make a move for a quarterback, or to do something

843
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: to try to change your fortunes, and instead you're like,

844
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: we're good with the fortieth quarterback out of forty, and

845
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: we're going to draft a running back when we have

846
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: a guy on a rookie contract who just ran for

847
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: a thousand yards and five yards of carry.

848
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: They'd almost one of the most ridiculous drafts of all time.

849
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: Somebody I saw somebody said it really well that he

850
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: goes Bjeon. Robinson is an exceptional talent. It's an offense

851
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: that will absolutely utilize his skill set, and it has

852
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: brought the Falcons no closer whatsoever to winning a Super

853
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: Bowl of correct.

854
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: Yes, that does it both now were in the future. Yeah,

855
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: the crazy thing is without a quarterback, what Bijon would

856
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: have been good at and could have been maybe something

857
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: that could have put somebody over the top that was

858
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: already good, that was just lacking that type of playmaker.

859
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: Until you have that quarterback, he's going to be worn

860
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: out by the time the quarterback gets there, unless they're bad.

861
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: Or they're going to be keep it in fresh.

862
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: He's going to play in the slot and they're going

863
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: to have Algier and him on the field and all

864
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: of that, and YadA YadA, YadA.

865
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Okay, they still need Caleb Williams, or they need Drake

866
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: may or they need Quinn Ewers. They have to have

867
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: somebody of that arm talent and they don't have.

868
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: My guess is, my guess is if they're competitive early,

869
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Speaker 3: which I certainly think that they can be, my guess

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Speaker 3: is that maybe when Tennessee is out of it, that

871
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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith tries to make a minor trade and brings

872
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Speaker 3: Tannehill in and then they're a legitimate team in the

873
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Speaker 3: NFC who can absolutely go to the playoffs. They still

874
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: are in again, no closer to winning a Super Bowl,

875
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Speaker 3: even with Ryan Tannehill but.

876
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Speaker 4: At least they have achieve the division.

877
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 3: They could win the division, and if all the ball

878
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: bounces the right way, you may can take out a

879
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Speaker 3: Niners team. I don't think you win the super Bowl,

880
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: but who knows. At least Yeah, that's something. Yeah, based

881
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: on the need, you could have done that with just

882
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: getting Ryan. Just getting Ryan Tannehill alone without Bejon Robinson

883
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Speaker 3: would have done that for you.

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Speaker 2: Correct, right, It doesn't change things in any way, shape

885
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Speaker 2: or form. We want to get to siaki Ika here,

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Speaker 2: gibbe okay, sir, all right, we will do that coming

887
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Speaker 2: up next. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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895
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Speaker 2: from Rookie Mini Camp, a guy who's got to go

896
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Speaker 2: defensive tackle. See yaki Eka. Let's have a.

897
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Speaker 6: Listener for your first impressions of being out here with

898
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 6: Jim too.

899
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: It's fun, real fun.

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00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 7: I like him a lot. He's a fun, fun guy

901
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 7: to be around, makes practice fun.

902
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 5: So where were you when you heard about the Zi

903
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: Darius trade?

904
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Speaker 3: What do you think of that?

905
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: And how excited are you.

906
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: To know and join the team.

907
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 7: Uh, I'm really excited. I was just in my room. Uh,

908
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 7: or actually I think I was here. I was either

909
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 7: here in my hotel room, but really excited about it.

910
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 7: You know, someone someone else who's uh been through everything

911
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 7: and learned from So.

912
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Speaker 8: He's a kind of that, you know, he was a

913
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 8: a kind of a mid round pick. You know, like

914
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 8: you how much you know, when do you see a

915
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 8: guy like that succeed? How much can that sort of

916
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Speaker 8: serve as an inspiration?

917
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Speaker 6: You know?

918
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 8: And having a guy like that soon in the locker

919
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 8: room to kind of pick the brain?

920
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: I mean, how how much is that help you? Uh?

921
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 7: Just me excited, real excited, you know, kind of where

922
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 7: for what I want for myself in the future. So,

923
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 7: you know, seeing something like that and also being here,

924
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Speaker 7: like I said earlier, to learn from someone like that,

925
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Speaker 7: I'm really excited.

926
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Speaker 4: What have you picked up about this scheme?

927
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Speaker 1: Now you've sort of had a a couple of weeks

928
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Speaker 1: to study it and actually get out and the.

929
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Speaker 7: Field a little bit real fast, uh, explosive, Uh and vertical,

930
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Speaker 7: a little bit different than what I've uh what I've

931
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 7: been used to. I've been playing a lot of blocks

932
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 7: throughout college. It's all I pretty much know. So, you know,

933
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Speaker 7: being able to get here and be in a system

934
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Speaker 7: where it's just everything goes forward, vertical, you know, just

935
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Speaker 7: disrupt real excited about it.

936
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Speaker 3: You feel like you have an idea of what Jim

937
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Speaker 3: went when he said you're gonna be a Ferrari.

938
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I know now for sure what.

939
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Speaker 4: You're as a Ferrari.

940
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Speaker 2: Describe as you as a Ferrari.

941
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Speaker 7: Well, just like I said, everything's explosive, you know, just

942
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 7: being explosive, getting off the ball, getting vertical rather than

943
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 7: just eating stuff up like a dumb truck. I don't

944
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Speaker 7: want to be a dumb truck no more so.

945
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Speaker 5: Uh.

946
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Speaker 4: What were your first impressions of de Wan and uh,

947
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Speaker 4: you know, just you really even from a size standpoint too,

948
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Speaker 4: and how much.

949
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Speaker 8: Are you looking forward to kind of going head to tending.

950
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 7: Oh that's a big man. I mean, uh I thought

951
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Speaker 7: I was big. That's uh gin ormist, So just excited

952
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 7: to be here as well. You know, another guy who's

953
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Speaker 7: as big as me that I'm gonna be able to

954
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Speaker 7: go uh head to head against uh here in practice

955
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Speaker 7: in the future.

956
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Speaker 5: The coaches you know in this camp or roll hands

957
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Speaker 5: on with you guys, which is probably something It's usually

958
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Speaker 5: something they don't get the opportunity to do when the

959
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Speaker 5: full gloster is here. Just how much do you appreciate

960
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 5: the uh, I guess the hands on teaching aspect that

961
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 5: you're you're able to go through uh this weekend.

962
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 7: Oh, I appreciate it a lot, especially uh because you

963
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 7: know it's a new scheme for me and uh, something

964
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Speaker 7: I'm not used to. So having the coaches there, you know,

965
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Speaker 7: being real hands on and being able to you know,

966
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Speaker 7: walk me through everything the different techniques mix it, you know,

967
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Speaker 7: makes practice that much better.

968
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Speaker 4: I will have you gotten no Isaiah M. Boyer yet?

969
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: You guys in this meeting rooms, have you.

970
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: Got any Yeah?

971
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 7: In the meeting rooms? Uh, I think right? Uh slowly

972
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 7: starting to you know, kind of break the ice with everyone.

973
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 7: Everyone's getting a little bit more comfortable in the room.

974
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 7: I think the nerves are starting to you know, come

975
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 7: down a little bit. So I know I'm a little bit,

976
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 7: you know, working to get to know him better. But

977
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Speaker 7: he's a hell of a player.

978
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Speaker 4: Did you notice him in the field yesterday.

979
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Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

980
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's doing a lot of great things, especially you

981
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 7: know in the scheme. You know, I can tell he'll

982
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 7: he'll fit in well.

983
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 5: And you're kind of eager to put on the pads

984
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Speaker 5: and get going or.

985
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, for sure, real eager. But you know, obviously

986
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 7: right now it's just back to fundamental work and you know,

987
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 7: knocking the rust off like I said earlier. So I'm

988
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 7: excited to get into some pads, but I'm excited to also,

989
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 7: you know, be able to take things a little bit

990
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 7: slower and learn things more.

991
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 5: What's the first part of your game now that you've

992
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 5: kind of gotten in the building and you've been around

993
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 5: the coaches, been on the field once or twice here,

994
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: what's the most important part of your game to you've

995
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: realize that you have to refine right away so that

996
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 5: you can you know, contribute.

997
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 6: Uh.

998
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 7: Probably my ability to get off the ball, get off

999
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 7: the ball and get vertical quickly, like I said, is

1000
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 7: not something I've been you know, familiar with before. So

1001
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 7: now I think it's real important that I, you know,

1002
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 7: sh shed a little bit more weight, get a little

1003
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 7: bit faster so I can move side to side, run

1004
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Speaker 7: sideline and sideline At the.

1005
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Speaker 5: At you had conversations about uh about metric shedding away

1006
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 5: have you and body composition? You had those conversations with

1007
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 5: the Browns and just what's the feedback?

1008
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.

1009
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 7: We're kind of playing with it right now. They kind

1010
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 7: of see where uh, they kind of want to see

1011
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 7: where like how heavy I can be without losing you know,

1012
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 7: any mobility or anything. So we're kind of playing around

1013
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 7: with it right now, seeing where I where they want

1014
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 7: me to be at.

1015
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: How different do you think that movie going from you know,

1016
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: the guy that takes two blocks to just tagging up

1017
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: the field. And is it something you think it would

1018
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 4: be a big adjustment you're looking forward to.

1019
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's gonna be a big adjustment. I mean

1020
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 7: it's already it already has been a big adjustment for me.

1021
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 7: But it is something I enjoy and it's something I'm

1022
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 7: really excited for. You know, in college when I was

1023
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 7: playing blocks, you know, looking to take double teams. This

1024
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 7: is what this is, and we were wishing for so

1025
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 7: now that it's here, I'm really excited to get in

1026
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 7: get some work.

1027
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 5: It will be easier on your body than not taking

1028
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: on two blockers.

1029
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it should be should be a lot easier.

1030
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 3: How valuable was that though that you kind of played

1031
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: in the system you had to take on blocks?

1032
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 4: Like how like?

1033
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: Like, what did you learn too?

1034
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 7: I learned the importance of my position, the importance of

1035
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 7: being a nose, and how valuable I was to the team.

1036
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 7: Now it is a little bit different, but you know,

1037
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 7: I still provide some value if I could do my job.

1038
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 4: It's fundamentals right now.

1039
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 9: But even yesterday, the coaches kind of getting you guys going, going, going,

1040
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 9: and and getting in your ear making sure you're doing

1041
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 9: the right thing. So what you expected you expected to

1042
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 9: be like so quick, so fast? Or was there a

1043
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 9: different expectation for you early on?

1044
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 7: It's kind of it is what I expected. I expected

1045
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 7: to come in and you know, hit the ground running.

1046
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 7: You know, a lot of h throughout the whole process,

1047
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 7: coaching and stuff are talking about how important it is

1048
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 7: to come in and shape and be ready for you know,

1049
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 7: whatever it is they may throw it us. So it

1050
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 7: is a bit of an expectation.

1051
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: I did expect it, all right. Coming up at the

1052
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: top of the hour, old buddy Matt Walton, Rookie Scouting

1053
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: Portfolio to chat about our rookie class that is coming

1054
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: up next to listening to Cleveland Browns Daily brought to

1055
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: you by bally Bet Coming soon to Ohio on eight

1056
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1057
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet coming

1058
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1059
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily. Let's head

1060
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: out on that twisted tea hotline for a good buddy.

1061
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: Matt Walton Rookie Scouting Portfolio typically likes our draft classes

1062
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: quite a bit. We remember the Nick Chubb conversation from

1063
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: years ago and Matt, it's always a pleasure having you on.

1064
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: Let's just dig right in this draft class as a whole.

1065
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: We got to look at him finally last week at

1066
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: Rookie Mini Caamp. What did you make of what Andrew

1067
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: Berry did it? A'll be at Hamstrung no first or

1068
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 2: second round picks.

1069
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, overall, I like some of the

1070
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 6: things that they did. Most of all, I would say

1071
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 6: that I'm a fan of you know some of the players,

1072
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 6: and you know specifically like Cedric Tilman out of Tennessee.

1073
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 6: I like the idea that they got what they got

1074
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 6: potentially out of Dorian Thompson Robinson, and even in the

1075
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 6: free agent signings, the you know, the kid Greeney, the

1076
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 6: tight end Greenee. I think is as a very interesting

1077
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 6: prospect who could develop into something good.

1078
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 4: Talk with Matt Walman.

1079
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: You can get his post draft guide now breaking down

1080
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: every player taken how they fit on their team at

1081
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: Matt Waldman RSP dot com. Met Let's talk about Cedric Tillman. First,

1082
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: we got a chance to see them up close. Looks

1083
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: like your prototypical number one receiver, great size, he catches

1084
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: the ball effortlessly. We all know he had that big

1085
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one season. What did you like about Tilman

1086
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: when you put on the.

1087
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: Tape, Well, I think you see a consistent player at

1088
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 6: the catchpoint, and oftentimes NFL teams can get so enamored

1089
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 6: with size and speed and what may be a highlight

1090
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 6: worthy looking play, someone like say Romeo Doves who had

1091
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 6: a really nice camp for the Packers last season. But

1092
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 6: everything up to the catchpoint was good, and then at

1093
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 6: the catchpoint. It was kind of like a box of chocolates,

1094
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 6: never quite knew what you were going to get out

1095
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: of them. Same thing with a guy like Gabriel Davis,

1096
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 6: where you can fit them into an offensive scheme and

1097
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 6: they might be able to do good work for you

1098
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 6: as that you know that third option. But Tilman's the

1099
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 6: type of guy that whether he's using strong technique, which

1100
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 6: he usually does at the catchpoint, or he can't always

1101
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 6: use perfect technique, which is a common thing that happens

1102
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 6: in the pro game when you have to position yourself

1103
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 6: and make a late play on a ball with tight coverage,

1104
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 6: You're not always going to have perfect hands position to

1105
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 6: attack the ball. Tilman does a good job catching the

1106
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 6: ball regardless, and then on top of that, you can

1107
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 6: see the development potential there as a route runner because

1108
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 6: he can and drop his weight and make sudden stops.

1109
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 6: He understands how to sell the vertical aspect of the route,

1110
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 6: which really is the part that sets up everything you

1111
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 6: do during the stem so that you can, you know,

1112
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 6: get the defender to Tournay's hips and run downhill because

1113
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 6: you want every route to look like a potential go route,

1114
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 6: and Cedric Tilman understands how to do that. He's done

1115
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 6: it against type man coverage in the SEC, with top

1116
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 6: athletes who can play at the NFL level, and you know,

1117
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 6: overall you also get a player who's efficient after the catch.

1118
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 6: So really down the line, you could see Tilman as

1119
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 6: a guy who might one day be able to replace

1120
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 6: Amari Cooper as the main guy in Cleveland's offense and

1121
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,959
Speaker 6: also make a very good secondary option on this team

1122
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 6: within a year or two.

1123
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 2: And high praise there. Matt If he doesn't get hurt

1124
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: last year, where does he Where does he land?

1125
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I think probably because Dix are

1126
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 6: a big driver of draft position, not balanced, you know,

1127
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 6: because really, you know, we all we all understand we're

1128
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 6: making decisions and we have to be accountable to the

1129
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 6: media or to the public in whatever fashion that is.

1130
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 6: And whatever business you're doing, you you have to cover

1131
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 6: your assets, and part of covering your assets is a

1132
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 6: healthy player with strong production year after the year after year.

1133
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 6: So from the talent perspective, he deserved to be one

1134
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 6: of the top three to five receivers in this class,

1135
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 6: you know. But from a from that other perspective, yeah,

1136
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 6: I mean, you're you're right, probably not going to be

1137
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 6: a guy. You know, he fell to where he did

1138
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 6: mainly because you know, somebody didn't want to explain that

1139
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 6: they drafted a guy who got hurt in the first round.

1140
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1141
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: Dorian Thompson Robinson actually his high school quarterbacks, he being

1142
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman out there Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas. I

1143
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 3: gotta tell you, Matt, we've got a chance to talk

1144
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: with him and see him around here. What an impressive

1145
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: young man. You saw the evolution of his game over

1146
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: his time at CLA. He basically was that Offerens career.

1147
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: He nearly seventy percent completions his last season. What do

1148
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: you like about him? And I'll tell you what. We

1149
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 3: have that extra preseason game, the Hall of Fame game

1150
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 3: because of Joe Thomas here.

1151
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 4: I'm just excited to see him play.

1152
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: He feels like a highlight film every time, but it

1153
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: felt like he got a little more refined. Would you

1154
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: agree with that? And what do you like about Dorian

1155
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: Thompson Robinson potentially is a long term backup option to

1156
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson.

1157
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a chance here with

1158
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 6: Thompson Robinson to become a good journeyman starter in the NFL,

1159
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 6: where you know you can bring him a board and

1160
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 6: he can be a bridge between a veteran that you

1161
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 6: let go or a rookie prospect that didn't pan out

1162
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 6: after a year or two and you need somebody to

1163
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 6: help your team compete and you know, and then be

1164
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 6: there when when you do draft in an early round.

1165
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 6: Maybe he can become more than that and become a

1166
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 6: second contract starter. For that to happen, I think he's

1167
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 6: going to have to become a little bit more confident

1168
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 6: and less streaky with certain downfield throws. You see moments

1169
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 6: with him where he does a really good job of

1170
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 6: moving in the pocket and delivering the ball and understanding

1171
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 6: where the ideal leverages with a defender's position on a

1172
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 6: receiver and letting that ball go. And you obviously see

1173
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 6: that he can create and that's you know, in the

1174
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 6: red zone. You see some really nice playmaking ability there.

1175
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 6: And so overall, I think that.

1176
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: He's going to compete.

1177
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 6: You know, if I was basing it solely on what

1178
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 6: I saw on film in college, I would say I

1179
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 6: would prefer Dorian Thompson Robinson to Kellenmont And I would

1180
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 6: say that Robinson could possibly compete with Joshua Dobbs. I

1181
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: think you guys brought him back, if that's correct, y,

1182
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 6: you know, Yeah, So you guys brought him back, and

1183
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 6: he had a nice showing, you know, the rocket scientists,

1184
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 6: you know, had a nice showing in Tennessee, in addition

1185
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 6: to what he did late in the preseason for you guys,

1186
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: you know, last year. And I think that's the wise

1187
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 6: choice because I was never really a really ion Kellen Mond.

1188
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 6: Maybe he's improved, but I think that the addition of Robinson,

1189
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 6: the addition the the you know, the reuniting of Dobbs

1190
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 6: probably is the riding on the wall here is that

1191
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 6: maybe some of some of your coaching staff's buddies in

1192
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 6: Minnesota may have said some nice things or liked Kellen Mond,

1193
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 6: but they didn't stick with him either. So I imagine

1194
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 6: that Robinson's probably going to be the number three, and

1195
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 6: they'll keep three quarterbacks on this roster unless Thompson Robinson

1196
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 6: really does a great job right off the bat and

1197
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 6: compete so hard with Dobbs that that they let both

1198
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 6: those guys go. But I don't think that's going to

1199
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 6: be the case. Dobbs is going to be the number two.

1200
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: In terms of Thompson Robinson before he becomes a spot

1201
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: starter around the league. If he does eventually evolve into that,

1202
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, I think obviously what you're hoping for is

1203
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: that he becomes the you know, the next three to

1204
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: five years, that the backup to Deshaun Watson. From a

1205
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: skill set standpoint, not saying that he has the gifts

1206
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: that Watson has, but just from a skill set standpoint,

1207
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: can he get to where they can run a lot

1208
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: of the similar stuff with him as they run with Watson.

1209
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: Oh, without a doubt, because really, when you look at Watson,

1210
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 6: the strength of Watson's game in terms of, you know,

1211
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 6: he reads the field, well, he doesn't. He has a

1212
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 6: When people talk about arm strength, they really only think

1213
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 6: of it in one dimension and then they apply it

1214
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 6: to every other dimension. That's possible with what really arm

1215
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 6: talent is. And with Deshaun Watson, we know he can

1216
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 6: throw the ball a mile and if you ask him

1217
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 6: to put air under the ball, he's going to be

1218
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 6: able to throw the ball and lead fast receivers to

1219
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 6: run under it. And that's great in the deep game.

1220
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 6: What he doesn't have is that velocity where you're going

1221
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 6: to ask him to throw, you know, the opposite hash

1222
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 6: twenty yard deep comeback against you know, tighte man demn

1223
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 6: coverage on third and seventeen, and that ball's got to

1224
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 6: be right exactly where the receiver's hands are coming up

1225
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 6: with the defender glued to him. He doesn't have that

1226
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 6: kind of velocity. So as we saw in Houston, we're

1227
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 6: going to see in Cleveland for a full year now,

1228
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 6: you're going to see a player who a lot of

1229
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 6: what they do is not trying to throw those low trajectory,

1230
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 6: you know, line drive type of throws. And I think

1231
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 6: Thompson Robinson is a similar arn't maybe has potential to

1232
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 6: develop his arm a little bit more, but I think overall,

1233
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 6: you're really looking at a player who's gonna throw in

1234
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 6: the middle of the field, who's going to be able

1235
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 6: to put air under the ball deep. And you know,

1236
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 6: at this stage of Watson's career, maybe we'll see a

1237
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 6: little bit more athletic you know, displays out of him

1238
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 6: this year, now that he's got a full offseason, you know,

1239
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 6: with the team and he's back getting some of the

1240
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 6: rust off. But I think with Thompson Robinson, you're looking

1241
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 6: at him he reminds me of kind of a player

1242
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: between Lamar Jackson is the ceiling he's never going to

1243
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 6: probably reach and doesn't have quite that level of athletic ability.

1244
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 6: And then a long term journeyman like Josh Johnson, you know,

1245
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 6: who played at the University's and Diego with Jim Harbaugh

1246
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 6: as his coach, who's been around the league forever, as

1247
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: like kind of a number three that teams could bring

1248
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 6: on and know that he's not going to completely kill

1249
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 6: the team in a game if they have to put

1250
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 6: him in. And I think Robinson can be a better

1251
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 6: version of Josh Johnson, and that means that he's going

1252
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 6: to be able to execute this offense if you need

1253
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 6: him to.

1254
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 3: That makes him a good value pick in the fifth

1255
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 3: round as well. Talking with Matt Waldman from The Rookie

1256
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: Scouting Portfolio again, visit his website Matt Waldman RSP dot

1257
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: com to get his post draft guide now breaking down

1258
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: every player taken how they fit on their team. Here's

1259
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: somebody who wasn't drafted. And you've been so good with

1260
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: us on running backs, you know Nick Chubb, we tell

1261
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: reference that earlier. I'm curious if we were fresh our

1262
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: memories of what you thought of Jerome Ford. But Hassan

1263
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: Hall from Georgia Tech is somebody that there's a little

1264
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: bit of buzz here. And I think there's a healthy

1265
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: and wide open competition for the third running back on

1266
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: this roster that he has a chance to insert himself into.

1267
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad you brought him up because I really

1268
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 6: enjoyed watching his game. You know, he was among the

1269
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 6: twenty five running backs on my board in a pretty

1270
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 6: good class this year, and what and I believe he

1271
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 6: was really closer to inside the top twenty. Good return specialist,

1272
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 6: very confident, being able to you know, hit creases downhill,

1273
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 6: good pass receiver. I think you know, on draft day,

1274
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 6: one of the things that I mentioned I believe on

1275
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 6: Twitter was when you look at his game overall, you

1276
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 6: can see that he makes decent decisions between the tackles

1277
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 6: that can get a little bit better. Maybe he can

1278
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 6: get a little bit stronger, maybe not a little explosion

1279
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 6: to the mix. Than if he does, you might have

1280
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 6: just gotten yourself the next kind of Dearnest Johnson project.

1281
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 6: Here a guy who who can really develop into a

1282
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 6: meaningful contributor if needed. And I think that Hassan Hall

1283
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 6: is a more developed and refined running back than what

1284
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 6: Dernis Johnson was coming out of Central was it Central

1285
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 6: for South Florida? Out of South Florida, So you know,

1286
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 6: good good looking running back out of Georgia who can

1287
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 6: do a number of things for you. I wouldn't I

1288
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 6: would be shocked if he isn't the number three running

1289
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 6: back on the sport because you know, you know, John

1290
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 6: Kelly is a is a rugged player, but doesn't have

1291
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 6: a lot of explosion. So if if Haskins can contribute

1292
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 6: on special teams, and I believe he can, he has

1293
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 6: more physical upside.

1294
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,479
Speaker 2: Real quick, Matt, just to because you took Jerome Ford

1295
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: a year ago, and I'm sure we asked you about

1296
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: him a year ago, but but what what were was

1297
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: your kind of your thoughts on him coming in the

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Speaker 2: type of player he could be now that you'll have potentially,

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Speaker 2: well he will, he'll have a much bigger role this

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Speaker 2: year here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I liked him a lot. I think that you're

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Speaker 6: looking at a runner who can be a lead back

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Speaker 6: in the NFL. And you know, he had a good

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Speaker 6: showing on special teams last year. Didn't get a lot

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Speaker 6: of looks because obviously he had two excellent running backs

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Speaker 6: ahead of him. But he's someone who can run tough.

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Speaker 6: He's he's not a huge tackle breaker, but he's someone

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Speaker 6: that can bleed, you know, through contact to really you

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Speaker 6: know push help push a pile. He's someone that you

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Speaker 6: have to wrap him up and deliver a hit for

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Speaker 6: him to go down. You're not just going to arm

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Speaker 6: tackle this guy. He certainly has some pass catching skills

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Speaker 6: that you like leaking out of the backfield. It's going

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Speaker 6: to be helpful to you in the screen game with

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Speaker 6: some plays out in space. He can do that job competently.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a good cutback runner who makes strong

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Speaker 6: decisions and is creative enough to be able to make

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Speaker 6: plays when things don't go perfectly well as blocked, and

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Speaker 6: still be able to do it efficiently so that he

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Speaker 6: doesn't lose yardage. And that's one of the things that

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Speaker 6: Nick Chubb is the absolute best at in the league.

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Speaker 6: I Mean, people always talk about Nick Chubb as if

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Speaker 6: he's like old, you know, outside of Cleveland, you hear

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Speaker 6: a lot of people sometimes talk about him like there's

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Speaker 6: you know, Saquon Barkley athletic ability, and Nick Chubb is

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Speaker 6: just a smart you know, tough runner, but it's really that,

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Speaker 6: you know, Saquon Barkley is a raw Nick Chubb. I

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Speaker 6: mean that's if we're going to be really honest here, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, because it's about managing the game and understanding

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Speaker 6: how to create in situations where the risk of a

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Speaker 6: big loss is eliminated and you're turning lemon in you know, lemonade,

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Speaker 6: lemon ands, you know, take basically taking lemons to turn

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Speaker 6: into a lemonade on a consistent basis, and Chubb does

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Speaker 6: that great. And there are very few backs who can

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Speaker 6: read the third level and basically three to third level

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Speaker 6: as they're entering, you know, approaching the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 6: and be able to do what he does. He makes

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Speaker 6: his blockers better. Very rarely does a running back do that.

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Speaker 6: And I think Jerome Ford has some potential to to

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01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 6: do some of that, just maybe not quite on the.

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Speaker 4: Level that Chubb does.

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Speaker 6: Because there's only one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah Chubb, he is elite.

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Speaker 3: Matt Waldman he called it before he ever put on

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Speaker 3: a Cleveland Browns uniform what Nick Chubb would become. And

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Speaker 3: certainly you were right on the money on that. This

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01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: question is maybe not going to be as fun for

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Speaker 3: our listeners. But I am curious. Yeah, looking around the

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Speaker 3: AFC North, were there any particular fits that you loved

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01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 3: or guys that you think Browns fans are gonna need

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: to keep their eye on, whether it be for their

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01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 3: own benefit and fantasy football, or just guys that you're

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: gonna need to know and have to deal with going

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Speaker 3: forward here in our division.

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Speaker 6: Sure, like in a couple of years, maybe this year

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Speaker 6: with Joe Mixon probably on his way out at some point,

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Speaker 6: Chase Brown, the running back out of Illinois, you know,

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01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 6: he's He's a good fit for what they want to do.

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Speaker 6: He's explosive enough. He's not as talented as Mixing, but

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Speaker 6: he can help them. Charlie Jones in a you know,

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01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 6: when Boyd basically a slot receiver, BOYD goes his contracts over.

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Speaker 6: Jones is a more explosive player and is a tough

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Speaker 6: slot receiver. You know, when you look at Pittsburgh overall,

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Speaker 6: the most intriguing guy to me who I was always

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Speaker 6: high on and just hasn't worked out, but he had

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Speaker 6: a heck of a run in the XFL. It's a

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Speaker 6: Keem Butler. Him and Calvin often are players that you

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Speaker 6: know the Steelers with the corps may not contribute this year,

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Speaker 6: especially with them bringing to Alan Robinson, still having Johnson

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Speaker 6: and Pickings on all that. But you know, Calvin Austin

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Speaker 6: to me was what Ron Wandale Robinson was touted to be,

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01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 6: but better and may have more outside games. So I'm

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Speaker 6: interested to see how much of an impact he has.

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Speaker 6: And Butler to me, is such a physical presence in

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01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 6: the slot that if Darnauld Washington doesn't work out, that's fascinating.

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Speaker 6: Of course, they Flowers what he brings with with the

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Speaker 6: with the Ravens adding you know Odell beckhamto the mix,

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Speaker 6: that they can get some healthy games out of Beckham

1380
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Speaker 6: and it works out and they spread the field, Flowers

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01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 6: could have some some huge run there. So you know,

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 6: it's a it's always a tough division. That's what makes

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01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 6: it so much fun. And I and I think though

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01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 6: though the Browns, what what they have up front and

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01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 6: what they have with Watson and entering year two, I

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 6: mean I think that you know, you have to look

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Speaker 6: at Cleveland is one of the favorites to win this

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 6: vision because I still think Pittsburgh's a year away, a

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 6: couple of years away. I think Cincinnati is kind of

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 6: up and down if you ask me, especially with you know,

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 6: and then when looking at Baltimore, you know, can they rebound?

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 6: I think Cleveland's flying one of the more stable teams

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Speaker 6: in this division.

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Speaker 2: Music to our ears, Matt, I'll tell you that. Get

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Speaker 2: the post draft guide now breaking down every player taking

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Speaker 2: how they fit on their teams. Matt Waldman ARSP dot Com. Matt,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for the time. As always, my friend,

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01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: we greatly appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Matt waldon Rookie Scouting Portfolio calling on

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Speaker 2: around the sports media world, Pat McAfee is bringing his

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Speaker 2: weekday sports talk show to ESPN. This pall is part

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Speaker 2: of a multi year deal the networks announced Tuesday at

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Speaker 2: the network upfronts. The Pat McAfee show will air live

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Speaker 2: weekday simultaneously on ESPN, ESPN Plus and ESPN's YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: ESPN will also announce the new weekday afternoon schedule be

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Speaker 2: folowish to the show has launched this fall. Sports or

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Speaker 2: will schedule will continue to be included in the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Macviee said during ESPN's presentation to the advertisers the upfronts

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: on Tuesday that he wouldn't swear quote nearly as much

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 2: once his show moves to ESPN but the substance and

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 2: style of the show would not change despite his new home,

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: in fact saying quote, we ain't changing a damn thing.

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: Every other word is good to go. We won't be

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: doing that because it's the middle of the day, but

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01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: everything else will be good. We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: This is a curious move, yeah, because he's walking away

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01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: from two years remaining that would be reportedly worth sixty

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 3: million dollars with FanDuel. That's the part that's hard for

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 3: me to get my head around. Dan LeBatard, who certainly

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01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: understands what it's like to be at ESPN and left

1440
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 3: to maintain concreative freedom on his show, said giant heartfult,

1441
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 3: Congratulations the Pat McVie show. Don't let anyone change you, Pat,

1442
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 3: or how you dress, or how you curse, or how

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01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: you succeed, or how you do you or how you

1444
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: do your show. You've done the hardest thing your way.

1445
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: You've built a beast. Do not let anyone tame it.

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 4: And Dan would know that this should be a big concern.

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01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: Well, Dan, this because Dan, Dan did this Dan. When

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01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: ESPN hired Dan to replace Coward, I believe right. Wasn't

1449
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: that how it worked? Coward went to Fox, and then

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:20,799
Speaker 2: Lebtard came in and Levittard's brand, I mean, especially fifteen

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01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: years ago. I mean Lebtard's show was a phenomenon and

1452
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: it is now too in the podcast world. It still is,

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: but they're definitely butted heads consistently with ESPN management on

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: what they could or could not say on that show.

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01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: Corneiser dealt with this when he was at ESPN, Like

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: this has been going on for forever, and both of

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: those guys are far more, for lack of a better term,

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01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: tame than McAfee is. So how does McAfee maintain what

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01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 2: made him great while being at ESPN? I think the

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01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: big part, the other big, big part of this is

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01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: I think if from a McAfee perspective, he is essentially

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: now locked in as a permanent college game day guy.

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: So you want to talk about a gig, that's a

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: gig that's a couple million a year, that's Saturday's in

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01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: the fall, Like if the Pat McAfee show comes and goes,

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01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: he can replace Corso on game Day and do that

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01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: for the next twenty years and make a great living

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01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: and have a great lifestyle and to be one of

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: the co faces of college football. This also allows for

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Speaker 2: him to do the Manning Cast, the college Football Manning

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Speaker 2: Cast version thing that Omaha Productions does, so it allows

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Speaker 2: him to do that on Saturday nights. So I think

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot to this look. It's it is hard

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: damn work doing a daily radio show with that is

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: yours and you control everything about it. It's hard, and

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01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 2: it's a lot of content that you're churning and creating

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 2: on a daily basis, And there's a grind to that.

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01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: It's possible that he's looking beyond the Pat McAfee show

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: and a life that is a little bit more of

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: a lifestyle that's conduced to what he wants as he ages,

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Speaker 2: and ESPN provides that.

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01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: Sure, and I think part of you know, part of

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01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 3: making it. And it's funny that you know they part

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01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 3: portnoy for as an example from Barstool. Sure, you know

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01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: they built that. They sold out to pen He is

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: worth you know, tons of millions of dollars now as

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01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 3: a result. And people are like, you sold out and

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 3: you know you're not the same as your He's like, yeah,

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01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 3: so I did sell out.

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 4: That's the that's the goal.

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to do.

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01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to do.

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 3: When you start a business, you think of your exit strategy.

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01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 3: Exit strategy is selling out. How do I monetize this

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 3: in the greatest way possible? And that's what it is.

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: So on some level, now what the money part is

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01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: the interesting thing to me in the sense that you

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01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 3: had your deal, you know with VANDUL that had two

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Speaker 3: more years on it. Could you have done this in

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Speaker 3: two years? But it sounds like, you know, other things

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: were more important. I'm guessing, and yes, you have this stability,

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 3: and to him, this may be and you're right, it

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01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: could be a ten year deal where it's all geared

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: and locked in. And so then he's like thinking to himself,

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 3: all right, I got this gig for the next ten years,

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: and then I'm good. It'll evolve to what it evolves to,

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Speaker 3: because it's going to evolve on ESPN for She'll evolve

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01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: and that could be fine. It could make it better

1509
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 3: in some ways, it could make it worse than others.

1510
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: We'll see, you know. Part of the tough part for him,

1511
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: I would say, is that there are a lot of

1512
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 3: people who don't understand or like the quote unquote people

1513
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: who sell out. They liked it when you know he

1514
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 3: was Pat McFee was the man of the people, and

1515
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: he was this and he did whatever he wanted to.

1516
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: And then now he's gone corporate and people don't like that,

1517
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 3: but you should like it because he's he's made it

1518
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: in the face of incredible adversity. I'll go back to

1519
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 3: when we were in Indianapolis. He was doing it on

1520
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 3: a folding table, like it's a normal table, no production value,

1521
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: no TV, no cameras, sitting around dressing the same tank

1522
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 3: top he does it in today. And now he's taken

1523
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 3: that what he was doing and made into a monster,

1524
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 3: and so he's going to be rewarded for that.

1525
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 4: Good for him.

1526
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see the sides of it. I'm

1527
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: with you on the There must have been something that

1528
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 2: he did not that he just felt like he couldn't

1529
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: do anymore.

1530
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 4: Baby.

1531
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you own a business to right, give it. You

1532
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: own it, and you're like, you're responsible for all these

1533
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 2: people and you're you know, their health insurance, their benefits. There, Uh,

1534
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: the hr part of it, Like, there's a lot to

1535
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: it when you're running something like that, and it's possible

1536
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,919
Speaker 2: he just didn't want that headache anymore.

1537
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I get it. I just just what

1538
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: Levittard said is totally.

1539
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 3: True if he cares ultimately, Yeah, and look, the man

1540
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 3: has made his money.

1541
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 4: He's done very well. Like we talk about it. He

1542
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 4: walked away reportedly from sixty million. Well he made sixty

1543
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 4: in the first two of the years of that deal.

1544
01:15:54,439 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 4: So just know, like whether or not you think the

1545
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 4: content is going to be controlled, it ultimately is because

1546
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 4: the Mickey Mouse brand controls everything when you're under contract.

1547
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too, like the other part of it, like,

1548
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: you know, you think about the long term sustainability of it.

1549
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: You know, so much of that show's astronomic rise was

1550
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers sure coming on once a week. You know,

1551
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,959
Speaker 2: that was a huge part of that show going nuclear

1552
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: just that and so that won't be there, And you know,

1553
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I get it. I see,

1554
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: I see both sides. But I see like if you

1555
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: wanted to get you know, extract everything from the original deal,

1556
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: I also see, I'm good I made mine. I'm gonna

1557
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 2: By the way, the reports on this, he's making upwards

1558
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: a ten a year on this, So it's not like

1559
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: we don't need to start.

1560
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 4: To go fund me.

1561
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: You'll be just fine.

1562
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 4: It'll be just fine. From a compensation stand it is

1563
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 4: interesting that the whole supporting cast.

1564
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure he took care of all of them.

1565
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 4: Maybe. I mean, ESPN's in the process of laying off

1566
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 4: like seven thousand employees or something.

1567
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: They're in the process of laying they're they're laying off

1568
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 2: people who are not one man ip creator, you know,

1569
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: ip creators, that's what they're there laying off. They're laying

1570
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: off producer, you know, stuff like that. They're not laying

1571
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: off stephen A. Smith.

1572
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 4: Correct, but they're so he's fine. But like how many

1573
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 4: of his supporting cast gets to go when.

1574
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 2: I think he would say all of them or else

1575
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't go. If they don't go, I bet everybody

1576
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: who's on his show is on his show. It's not

1577
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: like they don't have the money.

1578
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1579
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: I don't know about AJ. I don't know.

1580
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 4: I don't know I would.

1581
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if AJ, because AJ would be represented

1582
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 2: separately from the rest of McAfee's guys. Like, you know,

1583
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: AJ's has his own successes, So I don't know that

1584
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: he I'm not sure what his if they will, But

1585
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 2: ESPN does the freelance agreements with a lot of people.

1586
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: They did it with Chris, you know, mad Dog Russo's

1587
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 2: got the freelance agreement with them. When my buddy Bobby

1588
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: Carpenter was going, he was an employee that was a

1589
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 2: freelance store where he would pop into Bristol and do

1590
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: shows and stuff. So I don't know, I.

1591
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,759
Speaker 4: Think that's how a lot of their radio Weekend and radio.

1592
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely.

1593
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: And they could do that with AJ two, like just

1594
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: give him a freelance hit to do that show and

1595
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: not mak him an employee. So I'm guessing, go ahead.

1596
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 4: What what happens? And I'm sorry about that. What happens

1597
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 4: if Aaron Rodgers says, I'll do your show, but now

1598
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 4: it costs more money because it's ESPN, and I know

1599
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 4: ESPN has the money. I mean, I feel like you

1600
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 4: got to put him on. He's the QB of the

1601
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 4: Jets in New York.

1602
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: Still wants to Yeah. Yeah, I think inevitably, if you're McAfee,

1603
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: you have to be able to stand on your own

1604
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: without that though, you know, if you have a show,

1605
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: it's going to have to be the other way, and

1606
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: he does so, Yeah, I think large. I think it'll

1607
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: it's definitely gonna have a different tone though to your point,

1608
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: give me than it did. There's no there's no question

1609
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah.

1610
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting, you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Yeah,

1611
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 4: and he just might be totally okay, Yeah, clearly he is.

1612
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 4: He's signed the deal. Well, he regretted at some point.

1613
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think ultimately he's done such

1614
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 3: a good job that he gets to decide what he

1615
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 3: ends up being happy with or not.

1616
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: He wins no matter what, he's won as big as

1617
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: you can win. He bet on himself in every way. Yeah,

1618
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: and he's one as big as you can win. Hey,

1619
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: we've got we've got a little little golf tomorrow.

1620
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 4: I get.

1621
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 3: It.

1622
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: It's still odd to me.

1623
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: It's still odd right now. Yeah, yeah, it's so weird.

1624
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 4: We'll get to it.

1625
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Cleveland Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

1626
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,960
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1627
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1628
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1629
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1631
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Speaker 2: starts tomorrow too early.

1632
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 4: Don't like it, love it. You get just cramped, and

1633
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 4: then you got PGA.

1634
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: Then you've got on Father's A US Open and then

1635
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: the Open and then it's over and.

1636
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 4: We're not gonna have time to watch golf in August.

1637
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 4: I know, I just think it's too soon.

1638
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree.

1639
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel right.

1640
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: No, I don't like it at all. It doesn't. It

1641
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: feels like they shoehorned it in here. Yeah, I think

1642
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: they they shrunk the calendar of golf's relevancy to the

1643
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 2: average golf fan, the casual golf fan. You're basically basically

1644
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: casual golf fan is done with golf at the Open,

1645
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: like that's the end of the year. You're not paying

1646
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 2: casual golf. I doesn't care about the FedEx and so

1647
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: and it's done. You're done.

1648
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 3: And it means Father's Day is the last major championship

1649
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 3: contested in this country.

1650
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: Right, and that's you're done. Jui overthought it. I think

1651
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: they wanted to get away from the NFL preseason. And look,

1652
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: I know everybody watches the NFL preseason, but not really. Yeah,

1653
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: the NFL preseason, unless you're like us, you have to

1654
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: watch every down, every play is something that's it's a

1655
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 2: second screen sport, it's not a primary screen sport. You

1656
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 2: can have NFL preseason on in the second screen. You

1657
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 2: can have the PGA Championship on your main screen. I

1658
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: think they botched it. I think this thing is going

1659
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: to is going to be largely forgotten. It was by me.

1660
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it until the beginning of the week.

1661
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, we got to talk golf

1662
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: this week. I forgot that it was even happening. Or

1663
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 2: the venue. It's at ok Kill, which is outside of Rochester.

1664
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 4: It's look, ok Kill is an awesome track.

1665
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 3: Shoutout to Ark guy David Bass, who's always trying to

1666
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: get us to come out there.

1667
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 4: It's an awesome course.

1668
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: Justin Now, who's this guy? This is the first I'm

1669
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 2: hearing of a mister Bass.

1670
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 4: You know him. He's the New York State Trooper.

1671
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: He's got he's willing to take it to Oak Hill

1672
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: where the quarters at the quarters. Yeah, well I know

1673
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: the QUARTERSIP, but I didn't realize he's got hookups that

1674
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: that he's got to go.

1675
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 4: To Oak Hill.

1676
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, sold fantastic quarters that by the way, I get

1677
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: compliments every time I wear it. Thank you, mister bi.

1678
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1679
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 2: I was watching the Golf Channel last night a little

1680
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: bit in between and they had the guy they so

1681
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: they renovated it right, So this is what's happened to

1682
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: get a lot of these places. They did the same

1683
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: thing at Siota Down, which is I think is Saota

1684
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 2: and Alistair McKenzie. It's Nicholas touched it up, but it's

1685
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: one of the legendary guys from way back who did Siota.

1686
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 2: And one of the things that they're doing in a

1687
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: lot of these tracks is they're trying to get back

1688
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: to the original drawings of it. So what's happening is

1689
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: like a lot what's happened with a lot of these

1690
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 2: greens at these places. They've all basically become circles, and

1691
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: they're getting back to like these amoeba looking greens, which

1692
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: is what they were designed to be one hundred years

1693
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 2: ago when the courses were designed. So he did this

1694
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: at Oak Hill, so there's some very specific changes that

1695
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: he made to the green pattern. The other thing that

1696
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: they're doing is is because these courses and this makes

1697
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 2: people upset that belong at certain clubs. They're taking down

1698
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,839
Speaker 2: trees by the hundreds. And the reason they're doing it everywhere.

1699
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: The reason that they're doing it because nobody wants this.

1700
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Like they took down a bunch at our place, and

1701
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this sucks. Where's the tree lined

1702
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: all the tree lined holes and all of that. But basically,

1703
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: what's happened over the last thirty years or so is

1704
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,799
Speaker 2: you've got a bunch of turf that can't grow correctly

1705
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: because it doesn't get enough sunlight.

1706
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 4: Yep.

1707
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: And so this is what's happened. So they did, like

1708
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: this oak kill. Now, they took down a ton of

1709
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: trees in order to get the turf to be something

1710
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: that continued to be grown. But it's changed the course.

1711
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: It's changed the view of a lot of courses. There's

1712
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: a ton around here central Ohio too that have been

1713
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 2: they've taken out a ton of trees.

1714
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: Well, and somebody said to me as well, that you know,

1715
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 3: when these courses were designed, there weren't that many trees.

1716
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 3: A lot of the tree trees I have sprouted up

1717
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: on these courses are new, and and so that they're

1718
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 3: trying to return it to yes, it's original architectural style

1719
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: as it were at the time, and I know the

1720
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 3: country club here is doing that with their so we'll

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Speaker 3: see what how what people think of it. I know

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01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 3: that you know what the courses that I play the

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01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: most around here Walden and at Beach Month, they've taken

1724
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 3: down so many trees and in many cases I I

1725
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 3: don't like it because I feel like it's made the

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: courses easier, but it's also you could it's undeniable that

1727
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 3: it's made the courses healthier as well in terms of

1728
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: the grass and what you're able to do. It's just

1729
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 3: now you can hit it in a lot more places

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01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: than you could before.

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01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 4: And I'm always as a when.

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01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm given strokes, I want the courses as hard as

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01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 3: they can be because I feel confident I'm going to

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: hit in the fairway. But now places that used to

1735
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 3: be in jail in trees, none of the trees are anymore, so.

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01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 4: It's just rough.

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01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: They talked about this yesterday on the on the pre

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: pregame on the Golf Channel. They were talking about how

1739
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: there there it does not matter if you're accurate off

1740
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: the tee and by them accurate off the tea is

1741
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: down the middle in the fairway, then it really doesn't

1742
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: matter if you can bomb it out there. It's not

1743
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: that punitive if you miss the fairway. Yeah, and that's

1744
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: what they that's what's happen at a place, and they said'

1745
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 2: le me exacerbated at this place.

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01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 4: Well, depending on what they do with the rough.

1747
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, if all of a sudden, you know, the

1748
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 3: trees are a hazard, you're in the tree, you have

1749
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 3: to punch out. That's a stroke penalty. If now you're

1750
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 3: just over there in the rough and you can have

1751
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: an unobstructed shot to the green, it's really not that

1752
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 3: much of a penalty with how good these guys are,

1753
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 3: how far they hit it, and their ability to hit

1754
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 3: out of the.

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01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 4: Rough with wedges.

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01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so it becomes that bomb and gouge style

1757
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 3: of golf. But yeah, I don't it's it's wild to

1758
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 3: me that this is what places are doing. I get

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01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: it from the turf management standpoint, but you know, as

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01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm looking at pictures of o'kill right now, it feels

1761
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: like just bomb it, just rip it, and then you

1762
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: have a chance to probably hit up high, you know,

1763
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 3: hit a wedge or hit you know, an iron for

1764
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 3: them because as far as they hit it, you know,

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01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 3: into these greens without being in that tree line jail

1766
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 3: where you have to take a stroke stroke to punch

1767
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 3: out and then have to try to make it up

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01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 3: and down for a par.

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01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, there's not many there. Give me you got

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01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: some props for us?

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01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 4: I do, by the way.

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01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 4: Per McAfee's announcement, Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays will continue next season.

1774
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 4: Oh wow, this is from a friend Ohio resident on Twitter.

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01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 7: A J.

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01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 4: Hawk will stay on his co host as well.

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01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they want all of.

1778
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 4: It, the successful parts of the show. They would want

1779
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 4: winning margin two shots plus three fifty exactly.

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01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: You have to you'd have to get that exactly at

1781
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 3: two shots or is it two shots or more?

1782
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 4: Uh? The winning margin will be two shots? Those are

1783
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 4: those things are.

1784
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: Always that's crazy. Yeah, two or more than I would

1785
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: I'd take that before.

1786
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 4: Last year's playoff, the twenty one to twenty nineteen, eighteen

1787
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 4: and seventeen PGA championships were won by two strokes.

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01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that seems that seems crazy chasing that around.

1789
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? Correct? Uh, and the live guys can play on

1790
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:25,799
Speaker 4: this right.

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're all there. Yeah, people always get this confused.

1792
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: They think that the PGA Championship is the PGA Tour.

1793
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: The PGA Championship is put on by the Professional Golfers

1794
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: of America. This goes back to the split. This is

1795
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 2: Nicholas back in the sixties. It was one of the

1796
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: guys who did this in the late sixties who split

1797
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: the peat and made a true professional golf tour. And

1798
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: that's the PGA Tour. The PGA Championship is put on

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01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: by the Professional Golfers of America. Gotcha, So this is

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01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: the one you'll have like club pros in, Like, there'll

1801
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 2: be a couple of club pros in this thing.

1802
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, where I lost my stuff here? Sorry, guys.

1803
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 2: So I like the Jason days playing well. He's a

1804
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: good guy and he won. He won last week and

1805
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 2: he's been he played well at the Masters. I'd love

1806
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: to see him get back in the mix. You know.

1807
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: The one thing that I think is we're at now

1808
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 2: is kind of like and you can see it, like

1809
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 2: wearing on Rory, Like Rory's like done talking live and

1810
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous that the golf media continues to

1811
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: ask him about it every single time at every tournament,

1812
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 2: like he's gone above and beyond. He said everything, he

1813
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: almost single handily saved the PGA Tour. Like, let him go.

1814
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be the guy who stands up

1815
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 2: for everything all the time. Like, let him just go play,

1816
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't have to represent golf the PGA Tour anymore.

1817
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 2: He's done it, Like it's enough. And I think that

1818
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: the live thing is kind of going to be I

1819
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: think that's something that is so inside baseball for like

1820
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: diehard golf people, casual sports fans. They're not watching live,

1821
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: and they're not watching the tournament Jason day one last week.

1822
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 2: They're watching the majors.

1823
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure that anybody's watching live because you

1824
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 3: couldn't even watch the end of the final round.

1825
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: Pretty bad. So that happened. So they were at and

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01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: they were at a pretty even I mean, from what

1827
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: everything that I was reading about, it a pretty lackluster

1828
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: track in Tulsa, and there was nobody there from the

1829
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 2: images that I saw. But it's not it's not really

1830
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: about that. It's about a longer term play for them.

1831
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not that I don't really care

1832
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: about it anymore. I'm not watching the live events. I

1833
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: watched the very first round of the first one. I

1834
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: haven't watched it since, but I'll be into these majors

1835
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: and i'd love to see Kapkin McElroy in the final pairing.

1836
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 4: More importantly, you can watch it all. Yeah, YESPS plus ESPN.

1837
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 4: Who's got this? CBS on the weekend?

1838
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: Uh this fields like this is always a CBS, CBS.

1839
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: That was the other thing, CBS Fox.

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01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 4: Remember a couple of years ago, No, Fox was the

1841
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 4: US Open. That's yes Open, Oh yes, yeah for yes.

1842
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 2: Now, PGA has always been CBS.

1843
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, CBS.

1844
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, They've always so. CBS used to bookend the major season.

1845
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: They'd have the Masters, and they had the PGA. Now

1846
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: CBS is essentially out of the golf game in terms

1847
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 2: of importance. Now.

1848
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 4: Uh so one o'clock for ESPN, ESPN two. You can

1849
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 4: start watching on ESPN plus at seven am. Yeah, Round

1850
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 4: three eight to ten am on ESPN plus early TV

1851
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 4: coverage ten to one on ESPN, and then one p

1852
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 4: to seven p on CBS.

1853
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 2: I hope that the I hope that one thing the

1854
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 2: other thing that this does with the PGA is playing

1855
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: in May. It does the one positive is it will

1856
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 2: allow them to play at courses they otherwise couldn't, so

1857
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,759
Speaker 2: really warm weather courses that you can't play in in August.

1858
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about in Arizona and Texas. Now you can

1859
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 2: play in those places this time of year. So hopefully

1860
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: we'll see him play some places we haven't seen before,

1861
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 2: which would be cool.

1862
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 4: I would like that.

1863
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, So much more to come. You'll listen

1864
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,439
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01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,040
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1867
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 2: So who do you got? Who you got? This this

1868
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 2: week in the PGAZ.

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01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like rom is so good

1870
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 3: right now, it's hard to go with anybody other than Ram.

1871
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 3: That would probably be my favorite. It'd be great to

1872
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 3: see Justin Thomas repeat. I even after watching you Know,

1873
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 3: the Golf Show on Netflix, I wouldn't and see how

1874
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 3: close Bruce Kepka Brooks Koepka got to see him come

1875
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 3: through would be pretty neat. But I feel like the

1876
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 3: way that he was unable to come through with the

1877
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 3: Masters might have fairly devastating effects if he were to

1878
01:31:59,280 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 3: ever get closely.

1879
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. He went from like villain to somebody

1880
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 2: I really like. Yeah, I like that.

1881
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 4: Who do you want?

1882
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I always like Rory and I

1883
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: think he's got a lot on him. I don't think

1884
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 2: there's any chance. He seems like he's not in a

1885
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: good spot. But it feels like he took a lot

1886
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 2: on himself on that Masters result. But I can't help

1887
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: but root for the guy. And then Jason Day. I'd

1888
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 2: love to see Jason just knew him a little bit

1889
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 2: from Central Ohio, so that that would be something that

1890
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: would be pretty cool if that were.

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01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 4: To happen, all right, I like, yeah, such a good dude. Yeah,

1892
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 4: it would be cool for him to get to win

1893
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 4: a major. Agreed.

1894
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,200
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