Speaker 1: What's going on guys? You see boy easy bus, and
Speaker 1: we're back with another episode of legit Check, the best
Speaker 1: fashion sneakers podcast in the world, self proclaimed obviously, today
Speaker 1: I'm with my good friend Eric A K a Service
Speaker 1: by E. UM. I've known him for three or four
Speaker 1: years now and he keeps killing it, so I had
Speaker 1: to have him on the podcast to talk about a
Speaker 1: little bit about what he does. So, man, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Of course, why don't you
Speaker 1: introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about what you do. UM,
Speaker 1: where you're from, where we at right now? Uh So,
Speaker 1: as you said, I am a service by E I
Speaker 1: customize a luxury goods. So so for everyone who's listening, UM,
Speaker 1: basically you get some of the most expensive, most sought after,
Speaker 1: like really cool whatever you want to call it, like
Speaker 1: design your bags or designer wallets or whatever. Pretty much
Speaker 1: designed it, and he a little bit more than just
Speaker 1: your own touch. It's just basically whatever thing you've ever
Speaker 1: whatever image or um you've ever felt like you wanted
Speaker 1: on anything, you can recreate almost perfectly in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Thank you, You're welcome, bro. The compliment. But yeah, to
Speaker 1: sum it all up, that's pretty much what I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, man, Like, so how did it all start?
Speaker 1: Like when did you first decide to, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ruin this bag by painting on it.
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of just totally joking, by the way,
Speaker 1: but it kind of it was kind of left field.
Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco and I was with a
Speaker 1: buddy of mine who just had like a massive collection
Speaker 1: of go yard at the time, and he was just
Speaker 1: like he was messing around with like a lop like
Speaker 1: a laptop case and he had like a sharpie. He
Speaker 1: was just kind of like writing like random scribbles on it.
Speaker 1: And I was going to catch a flight to l
Speaker 1: A in like two hours, and I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I should take that back to l A with me.
Speaker 1: I'll try to paint on it if you want, you know,
Speaker 1: mess around if you don't care to mess it up,
Speaker 1: and I'll send it back to you. And I did
Speaker 1: that and I sent it back in like a week
Speaker 1: and a half and he was just mind blown. He
Speaker 1: was just just he was like, bro, this is so good.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I guess so. And he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you can make money off of this. And at the time,
Speaker 1: it didn't really click on my head. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're crazy, Like who would pay me to paint expensive
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like this. So he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: started Instagram, you know, um, I'll help you like do
Speaker 1: like a couple like you know, promos or whatever. He
Speaker 1: wasn't big on Instagram, but he had more followers than
Speaker 1: me at the time, and I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: So we did that and literally it was just like
Speaker 1: a snowball effect, like we posted one photo and it
Speaker 1: kind of just went viral for no reason. I think.
Speaker 1: I think we tagged a big like a big watch,
Speaker 1: uh I G And they reposted it and it got
Speaker 1: like crazy likes overnight, like and then the DM started
Speaker 1: coming in and then I just it was just all
Speaker 1: history from there. It came kind of like really left
Speaker 1: field for me too. I didn't really think it would
Speaker 1: be what it is now. You know, like there's that
Speaker 1: community out there that really loves like d I Y,
Speaker 1: like gritty, uh just just anything you could think of.
Speaker 1: They were like, Yo, I'm down, Like we'll put a
Speaker 1: bunch of like vulgar like words on like go yard
Speaker 1: or Louis. I'm like, damn, this is crazy. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of it was kind of it took
Speaker 1: me back a little bit to know that this would
Speaker 1: be what it is now. That's awesome. I'm thankful for
Speaker 1: so for everyone who doesn't know what Goyard is a
Speaker 1: very expensive French uh bag. I think they started making
Speaker 1: luggage and they're very, very very sought after. Um in
Speaker 1: the US, it's kind of hard to get. It's a
Speaker 1: lot more expensive out here than it is in Europe.
Speaker 1: But it's like what everybody's wearing, like every rapper, Like
Speaker 1: I think asap Rocky was kind of like one of
Speaker 1: the first guys who really made it cool because everyone
Speaker 1: was around Louis at the time. Yeah yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean the pioneers I think were like Kanye, Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: Loupe Um and I never owned a yard because it
Speaker 1: was just so expensive, you know, but it was I
Speaker 1: was just like, whoa, Like, this guy has a crazy collection.
Speaker 1: He just wants me to go crazy on so so,
Speaker 1: so you said that he was scribbling on on a
Speaker 1: laptop case with the sharpie he was we were sitting,
Speaker 1: we were sitting in his living room and he was
Speaker 1: just I was like on my phone and I look
Speaker 1: over and he was just like going in with a
Speaker 1: silver sharpie on I don't know what he was writing,
Speaker 1: like peace signs, like random stuff, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: I know that's expensive. And he was like yeah. I
Speaker 1: go like and I'm like all right, yeah. Um. I
Speaker 1: was like I took art. I took a couple of
Speaker 1: art classes. Let me, let me try to paint it,
Speaker 1: and then there it is. So what made you so
Speaker 1: drawn to art? Like, were you always like drawing on
Speaker 1: things when you're younger? This was I think I started
Speaker 1: painting painting like the fourth grade, third fourth grade, but
Speaker 1: I started, uh, started with graffiti. That was like my
Speaker 1: that was like that, that's the thing that popped my cherry.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, look at the colors, the you know,
Speaker 1: the lines, the all that, um, the letters. So I
Speaker 1: started with graffiti, uh, and then I just kind of
Speaker 1: just stuck to that until like middle school, and then
Speaker 1: my mom was like you need to stop doing this
Speaker 1: and go into like oil painting and all that. So
Speaker 1: I did classes in middle school and then I fell out,
Speaker 1: and then high school rolled around. I did art ap art.
Speaker 1: I just wasn't it wasn't like like motivated, you know,
Speaker 1: it was just like painting like oranges or whatever. And
Speaker 1: you know these kids would they took this serious and
Speaker 1: I was just like, dude, this is boring to me.
Speaker 1: I mean I I passed the class, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I think I bees in both both years. Um,
Speaker 1: but art has always I've always painted, I've always drawn,
Speaker 1: so you know this is it kind of worked out
Speaker 1: in my favor a little bit. Well, obviously you're extremely talented.
Speaker 1: And for everybody who's like, um, not watching and if
Speaker 1: you guys are just listening, we have a few pieces
Speaker 1: on the table, uh, one of which being hey, um,
Speaker 1: so this is a good yard. What is this a
Speaker 1: passport holder? So it's a passport holder and it's a
Speaker 1: superman holding up a black card. Is this something that
Speaker 1: you thought of or is this something that your clients
Speaker 1: thought of? Um? Someone was like, oh man, I want
Speaker 1: I want like a superman holding some type of like
Speaker 1: significant uh, you know, just the image that represents like
Speaker 1: ultimate like f you with money. So I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what black hard? Oh yeah, big time. I
Speaker 1: was like, I painted on there so hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: hope he has a black card. H Well, I mean
Speaker 1: there should be a black card in the passport holder itself.
Speaker 1: So that's that's super dope. And like the detail on
Speaker 1: this is insane. I mean it looks it looks as
Speaker 1: if it was like printed on here, but you hand
Speaker 1: painted this, so obviously you know, getting a b in
Speaker 1: uh ap art or whatever doesn't necessarily mean you know
Speaker 1: this is like this is like super easy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it gets like once we get
Speaker 1: to like portraits and stuff, then I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I gotta like take my time and do all that.
Speaker 1: But like pop art and like all these like cartoon images,
Speaker 1: just it's easy. So like something that the other passport holder,
Speaker 1: um you brought in has a g wagon on it.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that guy has a g wagon as well. Otherwise
Speaker 1: he just flex in the passport holder, right yeah right,
Speaker 1: I mean it, Shoot, he has a passport, he has
Speaker 1: to have the g wagon of course. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: four by four g wagon on there. This was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I like, I like this, this was this was pretty
Speaker 1: pretty simple and easy for me to execute. That's crazy, man,
Speaker 1: Like the detail on this is is nuts. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how you're able to like paint such small lines.
Speaker 1: Everyone says that, but I feel like it's not that time.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe those lines, but like in general, like bro,
Speaker 1: and are you painting with like a strand of hair
Speaker 1: or something like? How do you one strand of hair
Speaker 1: on this brush? It's just one strand? Yes, it must
Speaker 1: be some magic hair because clearly you know it's creating
Speaker 1: some really really beautiful art. And I mean on the bag,
Speaker 1: what do you got there? You got like Richie rich
Speaker 1: and he's saying, I have a big problem. I'm spending
Speaker 1: too much money. Wow. And he's writing, ah, he's writing
Speaker 1: a plane with a bunch of money falling out of it.
Speaker 1: That is so fire man. So how long how long
Speaker 1: would it take for you to paint something like that?
Speaker 1: It's a defel bag. I think that took me a
Speaker 1: two hours? Two hours for real, that's it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the longest, longest part about that is letting the
Speaker 1: paint dry. Okay, makes sense? So do you watch it dry? No?
Speaker 1: I tried to like speed the process up. I'll use
Speaker 1: like a blow dryer. Okay, you know, but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Only two hours? And so do you The passport only
Speaker 1: took me fifteen that's this took I'm just kidding that
Speaker 1: it took me about like the same. It took me
Speaker 1: about the same. There's more shading and everything in this,
Speaker 1: so like explain explaining me the process. So, um, if
Speaker 1: let's say I was like, Yo, I want you to
Speaker 1: paint Dumbo on my card holder, what would the process
Speaker 1: be after that? What do you mean the process like
Speaker 1: as far as do you stencil at first? Do you
Speaker 1: like or do you just like go in on the
Speaker 1: on the oh secret process, secret secret process? Um? No, Uh,
Speaker 1: what I do is, yeah, it's all free handed unless
Speaker 1: I know the image is like super like hard, then
Speaker 1: I'll try to find like, um, the outline of of
Speaker 1: you know, what I could work with, like as far
Speaker 1: as like a portrait or something, so I know it's
Speaker 1: not unproportionate, you know what I mean? Is that the word? Um?
Speaker 1: So I know I don't mess it up completely because
Speaker 1: I mean I only get one shot and I think
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever messed up a piece out
Speaker 1: of all the pieces I painted. That was definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be a question that I was gonna ask that I
Speaker 1: don't I've never bro that. That's why you get paid
Speaker 1: the big bucks. Yeah, that's why he's so rich. That's
Speaker 1: what wish I wish so, um, that's crazy, man, I
Speaker 1: mean that was definitely something I wanted to ask because
Speaker 1: it's like you never know, you know, like what if
Speaker 1: your hand accidentally slips and there's like a red mark
Speaker 1: or something that's never happened. I mean, I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: know what to do. So when you when you start
Speaker 1: painting something or are you just completely just lock all
Speaker 1: the doors, just turn the lights down load and just
Speaker 1: kind of like get in the zone completely. Not not really, Um,
Speaker 1: I do I like to put on I like to
Speaker 1: put on I like to put on like a movie
Speaker 1: or something just in the background just so like I
Speaker 1: don't it's not I don't really do like music sometimes
Speaker 1: because you know, depending on the mood. But I like
Speaker 1: to just put on a movie so I could just
Speaker 1: you know, hear it. And I like to be by myself, um,
Speaker 1: in the studio and uh that'll set the mood, you know.
Speaker 1: And then just I have like a couple of lights
Speaker 1: on the table, one one top light. It's about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll like burn some like sage or something, so you
Speaker 1: really get in the zone, though, you have to have
Speaker 1: like a hundred and ten percent focus when you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I like to get really drunk, just be like, man,
Speaker 1: I wonder how good I really am for real, and
Speaker 1: just go in wow, yeah, man, Like I mean, clearly
Speaker 1: you have a I can't even tell if you've been
Speaker 1: thank God, because I imagine just like I just like
Speaker 1: to crack open and just drink the whole thing, just
Speaker 1: drink the whole thing and just just roll the dice
Speaker 1: and be like, let's do it. Yeah, man, that would
Speaker 1: be crazy. I would have I would have called you
Speaker 1: a madman, and I would have never let you touch
Speaker 1: any And if I was like you would have, I
Speaker 1: was like, honestly, I'm so good. I like to blindfold
Speaker 1: myself sometimes, right and just just start painting. At that point,
Speaker 1: I would just think that you're like a demon or
Speaker 1: something that you could just like see through the blindfold,
Speaker 1: because this is a second that incredible. But so um.
Speaker 1: Another question I have for you, since I am easy bust, huh,
Speaker 1: and I deal with like you know, real and fakes
Speaker 1: you do? Yeah, you know. It's it's a little part
Speaker 1: of what shoes. I don't even know what sneakers are.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I wear flip flops, but I'm wearing
Speaker 1: some fake shoes or too so just going off that
Speaker 1: tangent um, have anybody ever asked you to paint on
Speaker 1: anything fake? Never? But have you ever been like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, this looks kind of gazy or just
Speaker 1: super old? But now never, like I could. I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of goyard of my time where I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I know, but someone has sent me something like to
Speaker 1: legit check and I you know, that's where my easy
Speaker 1: buster came out. It was like, yo, bro, this isn't verified. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had to cut the card holder in half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I sent him back a real one really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was a little used though, but it's better than
Speaker 1: what he had. Wow, that's crazy. But like you've never
Speaker 1: been like, oh, ship, this person is paying me big
Speaker 1: money and he wants me to paint something fake. No? No,
Speaker 1: well normally the people who have the big money don't
Speaker 1: have anything. Yeah, I mean I've been asked to paint
Speaker 1: like heauld be like weird and he paint like Polo
Speaker 1: mm hmm, or like you know, like lesser tier. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was also going to be another question I had
Speaker 1: for you, like do you only accept working on things
Speaker 1: like go yard and painting on anything? Honestly? But Um,
Speaker 1: it's just if it's if it's doable or not. Like
Speaker 1: if I if the polo, I didn't take it because
Speaker 1: I forgot what kind of like material is made out of,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But um, I've been on
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that isn't like top tier you know. Um,
Speaker 1: but I don't paint on shoes. Um, you've never done
Speaker 1: a shoe huh. I think I did a lubaton once
Speaker 1: for a buddy initials. But I just I don't like
Speaker 1: painting like onlike air forces and veins and stuff like
Speaker 1: myself included. I don't really like custom sneakers in my opinion,
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about it. It's a it's a big
Speaker 1: community and you know what I mean, that's cool. No,
Speaker 1: but it's just that's just something I just that's I knew.
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't want to go down I feel you
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Of course, if I pulled
Speaker 1: up on you, it's some like air forces and I
Speaker 1: just had a bunch of like LV Supreme, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like red all over it. You'd be
Speaker 1: like that's whack. Yeah, that's not that's not the real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, you know what I mean. Like, but I
Speaker 1: mean some of the stuff is kind of cool though,
Speaker 1: you know, like the portraits that people do. But it's
Speaker 1: just I'm not trying to like be like, oh I'm
Speaker 1: too good for that. It's just something that you know,
Speaker 1: it's never really interested me. Yea interested me, I'm interested.
Speaker 1: So um, with that said, like you just wanna just
Speaker 1: kind of stick with just like bags and and like
Speaker 1: wallets and card holders and stuff like that for now.
Speaker 1: But have you ever thought about painting like a canvas
Speaker 1: and like crazy crazy, I'm doing a canvas right now.
Speaker 1: That's ten ft long, I feet high? Geez, ten ten
Speaker 1: ft long? Bro? Yeah? Yeah, So what are you doing
Speaker 1: that for? Is that something that's top secret? You can't
Speaker 1: it's not top secret. It's he's just a little private.
Speaker 1: But you know, um, this is a good friend of
Speaker 1: mine paying me a bag to to do this, so
Speaker 1: you know it's it's something. It's something sick, which I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna post. It's not something I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: private it. You know, he's down, he's gonna let me
Speaker 1: like post it. But um, as far as like you
Speaker 1: know who it's for, yeah, I feel you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: trust me, I'm like I'm I'm in the industry too,
Speaker 1: I know. But how, um, like, are you excited to
Speaker 1: do that? Because it's a little bit different than what
Speaker 1: you normally do, because I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker 1: you do an actual like like like a painting on
Speaker 1: something that's not I mean, I'm pretty excited. Is just
Speaker 1: it's just a different medium, you know, Like my canvas
Speaker 1: is usually like expensive stuff. So it's like with the
Speaker 1: regular campus, I wouldn't be as scared to like just
Speaker 1: go in. Yeah you know what I mean, because I'm
Speaker 1: just like, brosis't you know, it's like can always fix this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't like something super delicate, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited. It's it's gonna be it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a good one. He's it's gonna be like vibrant colors.
Speaker 1: I'm doing like a big Hollywood um Hollywood sign, and
Speaker 1: then behind it, I'm gonna do like a golden gate
Speaker 1: bridge because he just moved here from San Francisco. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: that's fire. I'm excited to see that. You gotta send
Speaker 1: me a picture of It's crazy. It's it's wild. So
Speaker 1: I have to like rent like a U haul to
Speaker 1: like transfer to drop it off. Yeah, well, I mean, um,
Speaker 1: how long do you think that's gonna take you? It's
Speaker 1: definitely not gonna be a two hour job. Probably probably
Speaker 1: four really, that dogs like two weeks because I mean
Speaker 1: I don't I don't take in a lot of orders
Speaker 1: like that as it is. I just I'm very like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like honestly, I'm private with it, like
Speaker 1: I only do like referrals now. I don't really take
Speaker 1: a new clients like that. I feel you it's weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, that's the way you should keep it,
Speaker 1: you know. I was just like, what, I don't have
Speaker 1: any new clients. It's just like the same, like we're
Speaker 1: currently hey, this so and so wants to get and
Speaker 1: then then and I go and meet up with them.
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, so I have like seven pieces, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm gonna be busy for like a
Speaker 1: whole like week and a half. So, um, i've known
Speaker 1: you since is that when we met through a mutual
Speaker 1: friend And to this day, I can never tell if
Speaker 1: you're serious or not. That's good, it's good. That's a
Speaker 1: good train. Bro. You got me like three times already,
Speaker 1: and you want to play poker after this. No, not
Speaker 1: with you. I feel like you have a crazy poker face. Okay,
Speaker 1: you win a right, you win? That's it. Do you
Speaker 1: receive hate from from brands for what you do? Because
Speaker 1: I know that you told me you were a banned
Speaker 1: from a couple of stores. Banned from a couple of stores.
Speaker 1: And if that girl that banned me is watching, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna give her a look. Yeah, I can't say,
Speaker 1: don't you know what I mean to be respectful, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I am banned from UH. I'm not banned from Louis,
Speaker 1: but I am banned from Goyard. Yeah. Well because in
Speaker 1: the Louis Vuitton store, they actually have someone in there
Speaker 1: that like paints at certain shops. So do you think
Speaker 1: that they don't mind what you do or do you
Speaker 1: think that they're Yeah, I think they're a little bit
Speaker 1: more open, you know what I mean, and they embrace it. Um.
Speaker 1: But I know they can't, like, you know, necessarily paint
Speaker 1: certain images because of you know, the galley with the
Speaker 1: company and all that. Of course saying um, but I've
Speaker 1: I painted a couple of things and I went to UH.
Speaker 1: I went to a an event for Wonder Woman and
Speaker 1: the people that represented like Disney or did like the
Speaker 1: licensing for Disney and like Warner Brothers were there. So
Speaker 1: I met I met a couple of ladies and they
Speaker 1: love what I do. And I had to just rub
Speaker 1: show there, don't be cool, just so I don't get
Speaker 1: hit with you know, Yeah, I'll see you in court. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, are there any rules to that, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless I'm painting like a million mickeys into making like
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars off of Disney characters, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. But it's like one off. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to come after me over like six
Speaker 1: hundred bucks, that's fine, you know, but venmo you if
Speaker 1: you want. But I mean, like it's interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: cause which is one of the biggest artists in the
Speaker 1: world right now. He's killing it. Bro Like, if you
Speaker 1: think about it, most of his pieces are just Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse with a different head. He's spin offside. I like
Speaker 1: how he adds his touch to like I loved his
Speaker 1: like poster ad and so you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: those are yo, and I think that's like my thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I saw this window, this opportunity
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I'm gonna capitalize on on like
Speaker 1: adding stuff to art already, this is art in itself.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to paint on a five thousand all
Speaker 1: the Duffel Bag or seven thousand all the Duffel Bag. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: of course here I am. So do you think so
Speaker 1: you you actually can get in trouble for something like that,
Speaker 1: even if like it's like a custom piece, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many ways it plays out, bro, Like,
Speaker 1: like realistically, if they wanted to get really down to it.
Speaker 1: I remember at a meeting and they were like, honestly,
Speaker 1: the person that paid for you to do the job
Speaker 1: can actually get in trouble as well, because you know
Speaker 1: they're they're they're like, uh, accessory to it, but it's
Speaker 1: like they're the ones that's having me do it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm just like the middle man realistically.
Speaker 1: But bro, if I buy this, technically, I should be
Speaker 1: able to do whatever I want with it, right. But
Speaker 1: you know if you paint on go yard and you
Speaker 1: bring it back to the going start, they going that
Speaker 1: yets counterfeit even though it's real. Yeah, if you try
Speaker 1: to get like touched up or glaze or something. Wow,
Speaker 1: so my wallet's screwed. Yeah, so this is all fake.
Speaker 1: This is all about to be busted. It's gonna end
Speaker 1: up on my Instagram in two hours. But wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I know Goyard is a little more
Speaker 1: uptight as a brand and total because like I've I've
Speaker 1: heard so many different things about them, But um, I
Speaker 1: know Louie is a little bit more fluid, you know, man,
Speaker 1: I love Louis. It's harder to paint though. Man, that's weird.
Speaker 1: So like do you have um, I don't think you
Speaker 1: do this, but like, have you ever just gone to
Speaker 1: go yard bought like ten things and then sold them
Speaker 1: off individually? Or is the bulk of your work? I
Speaker 1: know the bulk of York is this, but like somebody
Speaker 1: coming to I just bought this, I want you to
Speaker 1: paint it for me. In the beginning, it was like
Speaker 1: that I was obviously I was in there like literally
Speaker 1: every two three days really like they were like oh
Speaker 1: yeah cool, and then like you know, like six months
Speaker 1: ago buy and there like hold on, anyway, look at
Speaker 1: this guy's account and I have like you know, there
Speaker 1: be like this guy's button so much go you are
Speaker 1: in the past like six months when realistically you can
Speaker 1: only buy like three small items or whatever every six months,
Speaker 1: and I was buying like two three wallets every like
Speaker 1: two or three days. Why they have a policy on
Speaker 1: how much you can buy. Yeah, I mean just like
Speaker 1: anybody like air mish, you know, like you can't buy like,
Speaker 1: you know, certain certain pieces. See I don't shop at
Speaker 1: those stores enough to know that, but you do because
Speaker 1: because you're rich. But you know. But yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: That was like, that was like a big thing. And um,
Speaker 1: I'd start finding other ways to get go yard, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is a big hassle. Yeah, that's interesting. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I didn't know it was like that intense.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, the next time, I'm going to
Speaker 1: send you in to go Yard, and then you should
Speaker 1: I wear the mask? You know that you'd probably scare
Speaker 1: some people in there. I think they'll probably kicked me
Speaker 1: out right away. So, um, what's what's been like your
Speaker 1: favorite your favorite piece you've ever done? Um, it has
Speaker 1: to be that shark mouth on the Duffel bags. So
Speaker 1: you're the one who pioneered that. I'm ana come clean.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that, I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like someone might have done it, but I just
Speaker 1: kept eyes on it. Bro, I've never seen anyone do
Speaker 1: that beside but I was. I did that. The first
Speaker 1: time I did that was twenty four on a Duffel bag.
Speaker 1: Is that something everywhere? It's crazy, like I see spray
Speaker 1: ground do it like everybody? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The other like other painters out there, which is flattering,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Thank you? But yeah, so
Speaker 1: who did you do the first one? For? Was it
Speaker 1: just like a homie San Francisco, same dude. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was just and he was like, yeah, take this, take that.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, cool, that's fire. So what
Speaker 1: did you get inspired by it? Like an old fighter jet?
Speaker 1: Or like, so, my my great grandfather was in uh
Speaker 1: World War two in the Philippines and there was a
Speaker 1: picture that I found and he had a he took
Speaker 1: a picture, um and it was it was like a
Speaker 1: couple of planes and one of the planes had that
Speaker 1: on there. Well, I was just I was like, that's
Speaker 1: so tight. And then I told my boy and was
Speaker 1: he know, you should you should try to paint that
Speaker 1: on the Duffel bag. So I just fire. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of just winged it super fire. Bro. To this day,
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, why do you is a babe. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're such a high piast. It's not even the same
Speaker 1: design at all. This it's completely different, Babe. I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask, like, maybe that was some because I knew
Speaker 1: it's because I've seen that on like fighter planes before,
Speaker 1: So that was my first idea. But that's such a weird, Like, no,
Speaker 1: it really happened like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was like through my great grandfather. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's such a cool story. So um, when so you
Speaker 1: said that the same person who bought the giant Um
Speaker 1: canvas that he was like one of the first people
Speaker 1: you've ever worked with technically, right, So this the canvas
Speaker 1: is for someone else from San Francisco, Okay, so what
Speaker 1: would you say? It's been like your craziest experience with
Speaker 1: the client, Like you don't have to name exactly who
Speaker 1: it is, but it's if you wanna, um, craziest story.
Speaker 1: So this, Uh, they didn't even email me, They just
Speaker 1: had my number. Someone reached out to me, Hey, um,
Speaker 1: someone else is gonna text you. And then from there
Speaker 1: someone else is gonna text you, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: It turns out this um I have the same names,
Speaker 1: but it's it was. It was a a royal family
Speaker 1: out in, you know, and they were like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: looking to get some things done. I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: you know, like what are we doing. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to get fifteen items done and I'm like fifteen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, fifteen mos an handle that and the
Speaker 1: yeah we want to get like h we want to
Speaker 1: get I think we want to get like four Duffel bags,
Speaker 1: four backpacks, a briefcase, like a bunch of a bunch
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff. And I'm like, damn, like who's this?
Speaker 1: Who's this for? So they literally wired money, so we bought,
Speaker 1: we bought think we bought thirty thousand dollars worth the
Speaker 1: goyard and then we spent another like twenty or fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand at at at Louis and um um. So they
Speaker 1: wired all this money. They flew a guy out here
Speaker 1: to stay in l a for like I think like
Speaker 1: two weeks. Well I finished the pieces and then literally
Speaker 1: just gave me like a lot of cash. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this dude was I was like, oh, so, like you
Speaker 1: know who's like they told me who was four? But
Speaker 1: it was crazy, like the process of like I had
Speaker 1: to go to go Yard and I had to go
Speaker 1: to Louis and they're looking at me like, yo, what
Speaker 1: the hell? Like you know that the wires are hitting
Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, I mean, but you know, I
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't sound crazy because this happens all the time.
Speaker 1: We just don't hear about it. But it was like
Speaker 1: it was kind of I was taken back because it
Speaker 1: was such a long time and I'm like, I'm a kid,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I won't be here
Speaker 1: asking for like thirty thousand I was worth of Louis.
Speaker 1: They're like, I mean I respect to Louis Louise a
Speaker 1: little bit cheaper than go Yard. You know. I think
Speaker 1: I bought we bought three items at go Yard and
Speaker 1: that was already like twenty some thousand, twenty thousand something
Speaker 1: like that, and then um and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: we're spending bread at Louis And it would take me
Speaker 1: like the v I P room and like, you know,
Speaker 1: can we help you take all these to the car?
Speaker 1: What I'm like, dude, I have to call like a
Speaker 1: uber suv or something to bring this back. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna fit my car. You're gonna need like an arm
Speaker 1: word vehicle for that much stuff. Honestly. Yeah, And you know,
Speaker 1: Eric's being really uh modest here. But I've seen some
Speaker 1: of the people you've worked with. It's like from all
Speaker 1: the public images that I've seen, and it's it's all
Speaker 1: that people see the people like, oh that's yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Like I just can't post some of the you know,
Speaker 1: celebrities or the families I work for, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And people are like, oh, you're not working.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm just I just don't have time
Speaker 1: to post, you know what I mean. I wish I
Speaker 1: would post more. I wish I could be more, you know,
Speaker 1: put out more concept. But some of the stuff I
Speaker 1: just can't put out, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: from what the one from the ones that you can
Speaker 1: put out, what would you say have been like some
Speaker 1: of your biggest clients biggest biggest isn't like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like there's there's just you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like the biggest to me, it just means
Speaker 1: like something like completely different, Like you know what I
Speaker 1: mean like they're just like a good, warm hearted person,
Speaker 1: like man John Mayer, which is a good friend of
Speaker 1: mine now John Mayor, He's he's my guy, dude, so
Speaker 1: down on earth, he's so artistic, um, and he his
Speaker 1: attention to details just crazy. Bro. Really yeah, I felt
Speaker 1: with him heavy. Yeah, man, I'm I'm a I'm like
Speaker 1: I've been a fan of his music since I was
Speaker 1: a kid. So I've heard a lot of great things
Speaker 1: about him. Like one of my good friends, Keegan is
Speaker 1: also tight with him because he's in like the Watch community.
Speaker 1: Um that I've heard only good things from you too.
Speaker 1: He actually follows me on Twitter, which is weird. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why he's a g bro,
Speaker 1: but um, I've always wanted to like reach out. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll have him on the show yet. We gotta get him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome though, Like I saw you did some like
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse bro wed it was a whole ship show
Speaker 1: when we did that. Really, he hit me right after
Speaker 1: we did that. We did this trunk collection. Bro, we
Speaker 1: have I have more stuff of his still at the
Speaker 1: house that he's just like, yo, keep that on nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tight, bro, He's like stuff. Yeah, yeah. So we
Speaker 1: did that and then literally we dropped the pit chure
Speaker 1: on social media, and then all of a sudden, all
Speaker 1: day long at Louis, people were coming in and calling like, hey,
Speaker 1: is a Disney collection available for purchase? And then John's like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: like they think they think there's an actual, like Disney collab.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah you killed that, thank you. I've seen
Speaker 1: those trunks you killed. Thank you. I was so sick, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeo, this is tight that he actually wanted
Speaker 1: something like this. You know, of course, is he just
Speaker 1: like a Disney fan and that's like something he always
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, his style is just so so
Speaker 1: like so it's like viz vim like you know, like
Speaker 1: like I love I love his style, and I'm like
Speaker 1: it just goes with it, you know, like that vintage
Speaker 1: Like when I think of like vintage Jamickey, I think
Speaker 1: of like japan sees, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: they love that stuff over there. Um, So I was
Speaker 1: I was one of That was a good one. Um
Speaker 1: it was another one, Kylie Jenner. I remember you showed
Speaker 1: me that. That was a cool one too. Um, that
Speaker 1: was a whole that was a whole other other thing too.
Speaker 1: Her mom reached out to me and she's like, oh
Speaker 1: I love I love your work. Oh blah um, and
Speaker 1: he invited me right to the house. Brow Yeah. Like
Speaker 1: it wasn't like any like you made me off, Like no, bro,
Speaker 1: It was just straight to you know, the crib and
Speaker 1: you know, she told me what she wanted and we
Speaker 1: had we have mutual friends though what I mean, like
Speaker 1: I've done some stuff. I did some stuff for Scott
Speaker 1: Um and then you know, she was like, I need
Speaker 1: Kylie's uh. I think it was her twenty first birthday.
Speaker 1: I need her gift. And I was like, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: You know, that was a cool one. It was like
Speaker 1: a bunch of vintage like Betty Boo and uh, just
Speaker 1: like easy monogram like letters and stuff. Fire yeah, fire, dude,
Speaker 1: I've seen like and those are like those are like
Speaker 1: these are like people that are like, you know, cool
Speaker 1: like Chris. I like Chris is sick. You know, she's
Speaker 1: she's she's really like that mom. And she had a
Speaker 1: lot on the plate, so I with her she could
Speaker 1: joggle all that and be you know, still cool. And
Speaker 1: then the scene and hip hum besides that are under grande, dude,
Speaker 1: she's she's dope too. She's cool. Yeah, she's super show.
Speaker 1: We did we did that a little collection for her mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was that was a nice gift that she
Speaker 1: had me do for for her mom. And they trust
Speaker 1: me with with whatever, Like yo, just they gave me
Speaker 1: like the direction and I just kind of executed and
Speaker 1: add my own touch and they were just blown away.
Speaker 1: So would you say that like a lot of the
Speaker 1: people who come to you are like, yo, I want
Speaker 1: you to do this exactly, or are they like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love what you did for so and so you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of just like, yo, I love the client
Speaker 1: that are like I know I want something painted. I
Speaker 1: don't just don't know what I want painted, So can
Speaker 1: you just do whatever? And I'm like you just okay,
Speaker 1: you know, like no direction, nothing where They're just like
Speaker 1: whatever you feel like painting, that's the best. But for
Speaker 1: those pieces, they were just kind of like as far
Speaker 1: as like sizing and placement, they kind of trudge, you know,
Speaker 1: trust my judgment. Yeah, Well, I mean we still got
Speaker 1: to do a giveaway. We have to do give what
Speaker 1: you're doing. You have a little black card holder, dude,
Speaker 1: just go crazy on it. I'm gonna go crazy, not
Speaker 1: even look like it's not even be go Yeah, by
Speaker 1: time I'm done, it's just like you won't even see
Speaker 1: the goyard pattern, all right, Hell yeah, it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh, they're giving out a regular card holder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you trip the paint off, then it's you know,
Speaker 1: just a little expensive. Now we're gonna we have to
Speaker 1: do the giveaway. Someone lucky is gonna get some some
Speaker 1: crazy some crazy art. Yeah, dude, like just go crazy
Speaker 1: on it, bro, like for real, Like I haven't really
Speaker 1: showed anybody this on my social media because I don't
Speaker 1: want to portray something of course. Um, but Eric did
Speaker 1: this to my wallet. It's it says the word drop
Speaker 1: out because I dropped out of med school to pursue
Speaker 1: you know what I'm doing now. And it's thank you. Bro.
Speaker 1: You don't need to go to med school to make
Speaker 1: doctor money. That's a quote. That's a quote, right, you
Speaker 1: could take that to the bank, yes, sir, Yes sir?
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, dude, this this like it means
Speaker 1: so much to me and you know, like did you
Speaker 1: killed this? I want to do something even crazier. We
Speaker 1: gotta do something, um, some sometime soon. I know you're
Speaker 1: so busy and we've got to give away like a
Speaker 1: duffel bag or something. Yeah, dude, I'm down. I'm done.
Speaker 1: We'll do some crazy ship like I feel like the
Speaker 1: you know, people would funk with that if we gave
Speaker 1: away like a crazy duffel bag. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And dude,
Speaker 1: I mean it just seems like everything is so streamlined
Speaker 1: with everything. You know, you just get hit up from
Speaker 1: a friend or anything. You've never had any sort of
Speaker 1: like weird ship happened ever? Weird? I mean this is weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, everything is weird, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you want me to pain on what have you
Speaker 1: ever had like an issue with any like other artists. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's why I want to like hang out with
Speaker 1: more painters and stuff like. I just I'm so in
Speaker 1: my own realm. Yeah. I don't even hang out or
Speaker 1: acknowledge like other pain It's be like, oh you see
Speaker 1: what this print? Like, damn my god. I didn't unless
Speaker 1: they're like unless it's like it's making like news or
Speaker 1: something like, you know, like some more comedy or something like.
Speaker 1: I don't really go on social media and look for
Speaker 1: these these people you know, do you do have like
Speaker 1: a favorite that you ever maybe look at from time
Speaker 1: to time, like a cause where a comedy or you know,
Speaker 1: it has to it has to be like it has
Speaker 1: to be like it has to be cause cause he's
Speaker 1: a man right now, he's a man. I actually have
Speaker 1: a few cause pieces really yeah, it's they're pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I have a friend in West Hollywood's crazy cause collection
Speaker 1: wild like original like paintings. Dude, they go for like
Speaker 1: three or four times market price for prints for prints
Speaker 1: wild and then and then for the for the paintings.
Speaker 1: It's like it's crazy, that's wild. Yeah, that causes like
Speaker 1: a he has to be a big inspiration to His
Speaker 1: color is just like crazy vibrant. You know, the lines
Speaker 1: are super crispy. Um, would you ever say, would you
Speaker 1: say that you've had like one artist in particular from
Speaker 1: like the past or you know, it could be from
Speaker 1: like a Picasso too, you know, keep Herring or any
Speaker 1: like you've never had one in particular that's been like,
Speaker 1: oh damn, like I love that and I want to
Speaker 1: recreate that, you know, or not really not really not really,
Speaker 1: but I don't really get to attached like that. I
Speaker 1: feel you you know, what I mean, it's just as
Speaker 1: far as the job goes. Some people like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: like that's cool. I could see the sentiment of value
Speaker 1: to like you like wanting like you know, like I
Speaker 1: don't know like Muhammad Ali or something, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean to represent. I don't know your father, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I get it, but like I
Speaker 1: kind of just leave it at that, you know. I
Speaker 1: don't really like go deeper into and be like, man,
Speaker 1: let me do more research and all that, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not I feel you man, well, I mean, dude, you've
Speaker 1: been killing it so far. I loved seeing like the growth.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just be really low key what I mean.
Speaker 1: I rarely post like I try to just be like
Speaker 1: another radar, Like I don't want to be corny and
Speaker 1: lea yo, I'm painting like air forces painting yeasies and
Speaker 1: you know, then you're gonna come after me, and then
Speaker 1: there goes there goes our friendship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't want that. Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously I
Speaker 1: disowned you as a friend and I immediately if you
Speaker 1: ever did a fiction, Yeah, immediately, that would be disrespect. Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually think, uh, custom easies look really bad in
Speaker 1: my opinion, Like I think custom Jordan's are a little
Speaker 1: bit cooler, but I still really wouldn't rock him. I
Speaker 1: only had one pair that a fan gave me. He
Speaker 1: took a Jordan one and he got this like, um,
Speaker 1: it was like Avenger's bedsheets, and he did like the
Speaker 1: whole Jordan as like an Avengers Jordan. That was dope.
Speaker 1: But that was like the one time I was like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like this is my one exception. But otherwise,
Speaker 1: like I'm not I don't really like um, you know,
Speaker 1: because I feel like sneakers are just a whole different
Speaker 1: thing than like designer goods, because I feel like designer stuff,
Speaker 1: like you really there's not a whole lot of um
Speaker 1: how do I put it, Like every season there might
Speaker 1: be one or two new Duffles, you know, Whereas with sneakers,
Speaker 1: it's like they come out all the time, different color ways,
Speaker 1: different collapse with artists and stuff like that. So it's
Speaker 1: like I feel like there's so many sneakers you don't
Speaker 1: really need to make a custom seeker. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's that's my opinion, but but I mean, dude, it's
Speaker 1: been awesome, like seeing you like grow from when we
Speaker 1: first met, Like when we first met, you were at
Speaker 1: like what uh shoot, like when when when was that?
Speaker 1: Well as far as like what following, Bro, I think
Speaker 1: my account was at like no joke, it was at
Speaker 1: like it had to be less than two thousand followers, dude,
Speaker 1: like six followers and bro, you had more followers than
Speaker 1: I did when we first met. I don't even think
Speaker 1: you had Instagram that you had Instagram, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of just just went. You know. That's dude. I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of you. I'm so happy for you, man, like,
Speaker 1: happy birthday, bro, nothing but love like you know as
Speaker 1: always keep killing it man like, you're so talented. I
Speaker 1: believe in your bro, and we've got to do some
Speaker 1: crazy ship together. We've never fucking done anything together, and
Speaker 1: we gotta start. Yeah, we will, we will. I hope
Speaker 1: it's the first of many. Two Just you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think you for having me, uh call here and
Speaker 1: talk my ship, yes, sir. Well to wrap everything up,
Speaker 1: my man Eric's service by a happy birthday once again,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. Thank you. Please go check
Speaker 1: them out on Instagram at Eric ram Underscore and then
Speaker 1: I the service page Service by E, which I don't run. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, please give it a follow, and uh, I hope.
Speaker 1: I'll just keep putting out by your content for you
Speaker 1: guys from now on. And we're gonna do this, uh
Speaker 1: this giveaway which is gonna be bananas. We should just
Speaker 1: paint bananas on there, you know, or nuts, bananas and nuts,
Speaker 1: because this is gonna be nuts. We might be sitting
Speaker 1: a whole different we might be sending yo. Pause, that's
Speaker 1: where we hit the pause button. Anyway, pause, Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. Bro. Really appreciate you as always,
Speaker 1: and I'm really happy we got to shoot the ship
Speaker 1: a little bit and get to know more about like
Speaker 1: the back end of the business because I didn't even
Speaker 1: know some of the things I asked today. Yeah, I'll believe.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll come back on and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, if I have any new updates and you know,
Speaker 1: some cool stories I want to like spill the beans on,
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean, I'll have my secretary hit your
Speaker 1: secretary and you know we'll figure that. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do that. We'll appreciate you, Bro, one more time. That
Speaker 1: was legit check And if there's anything you want to
Speaker 1: plug at the end to say what's up besides your Instagram.
Speaker 1: Then it's a wrap. That's it. You said, you said
Speaker 1: it all. Catch you guys next time. That was legit.
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