WEBVTT - Episode 4 - Bag Talk w/ Serviced by E 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.880 What's going on guys? You see boy easy bus, and 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.080 we're back with another episode of legit Check, the best 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:12.000 fashion sneakers podcast in the world, self proclaimed obviously, today 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.000 I'm with my good friend Eric A K a Service 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.960 by E. UM. I've known him for three or four 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.520 years now and he keeps killing it, so I had 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.000 to have him on the podcast to talk about a 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.600 little bit about what he does. So, man, thank you, 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.599 thank you for having me. Of course, why don't you 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.920 introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about what you do. UM, 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.520 where you're from, where we at right now? Uh So, 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.239 as you said, I am a service by E I 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:44.520 customize a luxury goods. So so for everyone who's listening, UM, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:49.040 basically you get some of the most expensive, most sought after, 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.159 like really cool whatever you want to call it, like 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.600 design your bags or designer wallets or whatever. Pretty much 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.720 designed it, and he a little bit more than just 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.759 your own touch. It's just basically whatever thing you've ever 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:10.199 whatever image or um you've ever felt like you wanted 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:14.840 on anything, you can recreate almost perfectly in my opinion. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.480 Thank you, You're welcome, bro. The compliment. But yeah, to 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.640 sum it all up, that's pretty much what I do. Yeah, 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.000 that's awesome, man, Like, so how did it all start? 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.640 Like when did you first decide to, you know what, 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.920 I'm just gonna ruin this bag by painting on it. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.080 I mean it kind of just totally joking, by the way, 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.000 but it kind of it was kind of left field. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.360 I was in San Francisco and I was with a 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.280 buddy of mine who just had like a massive collection 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.400 of go yard at the time, and he was just 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.679 like he was messing around with like a lop like 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.200 a laptop case and he had like a sharpie. He 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.120 was just kind of like writing like random scribbles on it. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.240 And I was going to catch a flight to l 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.280 A in like two hours, and I was like, Hey, 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.680 I should take that back to l A with me. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.800 I'll try to paint on it if you want, you know, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.720 mess around if you don't care to mess it up, 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.360 and I'll send it back to you. And I did 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.280 that and I sent it back in like a week 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.480 and a half and he was just mind blown. He 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.280 was just just he was like, bro, this is so good. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.160 And I'm like, yeah, I guess so. And he was like, Yo, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.000 you can make money off of this. And at the time, 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:19.680 it didn't really click on my head. I was like, yeah, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.040 you're crazy, Like who would pay me to paint expensive 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.480 you know, stuff like this. So he was like, yo, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.000 started Instagram, you know, um, I'll help you like do 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.880 like a couple like you know, promos or whatever. He 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.120 wasn't big on Instagram, but he had more followers than 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.120 me at the time, and I was like, all right, cool. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.160 So we did that and literally it was just like 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.919 a snowball effect, like we posted one photo and it 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.480 kind of just went viral for no reason. I think. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.280 I think we tagged a big like a big watch, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.400 uh I G And they reposted it and it got 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:59.280 like crazy likes overnight, like and then the DM started 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.000 coming in and then I just it was just all 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.519 history from there. It came kind of like really left 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.440 field for me too. I didn't really think it would 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.360 be what it is now. You know, like there's that 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.960 community out there that really loves like d I Y, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:20.320 like gritty, uh just just anything you could think of. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.520 They were like, Yo, I'm down, Like we'll put a 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.640 bunch of like vulgar like words on like go yard 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.720 or Louis. I'm like, damn, this is crazy. So uh yeah, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.360 it was kind of it was kind of it took 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.880 me back a little bit to know that this would 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.760 be what it is now. That's awesome. I'm thankful for 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.600 so for everyone who doesn't know what Goyard is a 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.600 very expensive French uh bag. I think they started making 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:54.280 luggage and they're very, very very sought after. Um in 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.720 the US, it's kind of hard to get. It's a 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.640 lot more expensive out here than it is in Europe. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.960 But it's like what everybody's wearing, like every rapper, Like 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.800 I think asap Rocky was kind of like one of 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.200 the first guys who really made it cool because everyone 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.400 was around Louis at the time. Yeah yeah, but I 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:13.040 mean the pioneers I think were like Kanye, Yeah, of course, 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:19.719 Loupe Um and I never owned a yard because it 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.080 was just so expensive, you know, but it was I 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.280 was just like, whoa, Like, this guy has a crazy collection. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.200 He just wants me to go crazy on so so, 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.120 so you said that he was scribbling on on a 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.599 laptop case with the sharpie he was we were sitting, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.800 we were sitting in his living room and he was 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.080 just I was like on my phone and I look 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.240 over and he was just like going in with a 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.839 silver sharpie on I don't know what he was writing, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.640 like peace signs, like random stuff, and I'm like, dude, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.600 I know that's expensive. And he was like yeah. I 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.960 go like and I'm like all right, yeah. Um. I 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.280 was like I took art. I took a couple of 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.080 art classes. Let me, let me try to paint it, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:01.520 and then there it is. So what made you so 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.039 drawn to art? Like, were you always like drawing on 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.919 things when you're younger? This was I think I started 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:14.600 painting painting like the fourth grade, third fourth grade, but 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.000 I started, uh, started with graffiti. That was like my 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.599 that was like that, that's the thing that popped my cherry. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.280 I was like, yo, look at the colors, the you know, 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.080 the lines, the all that, um, the letters. So I 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.760 started with graffiti, uh, and then I just kind of 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.440 just stuck to that until like middle school, and then 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.719 my mom was like you need to stop doing this 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.080 and go into like oil painting and all that. So 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.560 I did classes in middle school and then I fell out, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.760 and then high school rolled around. I did art ap art. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.719 I just wasn't it wasn't like like motivated, you know, 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.360 it was just like painting like oranges or whatever. And 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.840 you know these kids would they took this serious and 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.440 I was just like, dude, this is boring to me. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.280 I mean I I passed the class, you know what 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.719 I mean? I think I bees in both both years. Um, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.800 but art has always I've always painted, I've always drawn, 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.400 so you know this is it kind of worked out 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:17.000 in my favor a little bit. Well, obviously you're extremely talented. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.839 And for everybody who's like, um, not watching and if 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.560 you guys are just listening, we have a few pieces 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.800 on the table, uh, one of which being hey, um, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.120 so this is a good yard. What is this a 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.320 passport holder? So it's a passport holder and it's a 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.960 superman holding up a black card. Is this something that 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.960 you thought of or is this something that your clients 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.400 thought of? Um? Someone was like, oh man, I want 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.040 I want like a superman holding some type of like 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:50.000 significant uh, you know, just the image that represents like 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.320 ultimate like f you with money. So I was like, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.039 you know what black hard? Oh yeah, big time. I 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.920 was like, I painted on there so hopefully you know, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.400 hope he has a black card. H Well, I mean 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.080 there should be a black card in the passport holder itself. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.000 So that's that's super dope. And like the detail on 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.920 this is insane. I mean it looks it looks as 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.000 if it was like printed on here, but you hand 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.920 painted this, so obviously you know, getting a b in 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:22.120 uh ap art or whatever doesn't necessarily mean you know 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.320 this is like this is like super easy, you know 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.480 what I mean, Like it gets like once we get 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.560 to like portraits and stuff, then I'm like, all right, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.080 I gotta like take my time and do all that. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.840 But like pop art and like all these like cartoon images, 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.840 just it's easy. So like something that the other passport holder, 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.480 um you brought in has a g wagon on it. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.440 Hopefully that guy has a g wagon as well. Otherwise 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.400 he just flex in the passport holder, right yeah right, 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.200 I mean it, Shoot, he has a passport, he has 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.360 to have the g wagon of course. Yeah, he's a 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.640 four by four g wagon on there. This was pretty cool. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.960 I like, I like this, this was this was pretty 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.360 pretty simple and easy for me to execute. That's crazy, man, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.000 Like the detail on this is is nuts. I don't 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.520 even know how you're able to like paint such small lines. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.400 Everyone says that, but I feel like it's not that time. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.840 I mean maybe those lines, but like in general, like bro, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.120 and are you painting with like a strand of hair 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.360 or something like? How do you one strand of hair 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:28.120 on this brush? It's just one strand? Yes, it must 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.679 be some magic hair because clearly you know it's creating 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.320 some really really beautiful art. And I mean on the bag, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.040 what do you got there? You got like Richie rich 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.280 and he's saying, I have a big problem. I'm spending 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.199 too much money. Wow. And he's writing, ah, he's writing 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:49.880 a plane with a bunch of money falling out of it. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.880 That is so fire man. So how long how long 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.360 would it take for you to paint something like that? 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.599 It's a defel bag. I think that took me a 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.960 two hours? Two hours for real, that's it. Yeah, I 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.839 mean the longest, longest part about that is letting the 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:14.640 paint dry. Okay, makes sense? So do you watch it dry? No? 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:16.840 I tried to like speed the process up. I'll use 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.880 like a blow dryer. Okay, you know, but that's crazy. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.360 Only two hours? And so do you The passport only 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:29.000 took me fifteen that's this took I'm just kidding that 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.079 it took me about like the same. It took me 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.680 about the same. There's more shading and everything in this, 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.680 so like explain explaining me the process. So, um, if 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.440 let's say I was like, Yo, I want you to 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:46.840 paint Dumbo on my card holder, what would the process 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.360 be after that? What do you mean the process like 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.000 as far as do you stencil at first? Do you 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.760 like or do you just like go in on the 0:09:55.559 --> 0:10:00.880 on the oh secret process, secret secret process? Um? No, Uh, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.520 what I do is, yeah, it's all free handed unless 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.120 I know the image is like super like hard, then 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.880 I'll try to find like, um, the outline of of 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.040 you know, what I could work with, like as far 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.440 as like a portrait or something, so I know it's 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:24.280 not unproportionate, you know what I mean? Is that the word? Um? 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.320 So I know I don't mess it up completely because 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.600 I mean I only get one shot and I think 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.199 I don't think I've ever messed up a piece out 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.920 of all the pieces I painted. That was definitely gonna 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.520 be a question that I was gonna ask that I 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.160 don't I've never bro that. That's why you get paid 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.360 the big bucks. Yeah, that's why he's so rich. That's 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.400 what wish I wish so, um, that's crazy, man, I 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.200 mean that was definitely something I wanted to ask because 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:51.480 it's like you never know, you know, like what if 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.000 your hand accidentally slips and there's like a red mark 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.360 or something that's never happened. I mean, I wouldn't even 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.720 know what to do. So when you when you start 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.960 painting something or are you just completely just lock all 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.240 the doors, just turn the lights down load and just 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:12.199 kind of like get in the zone completely. Not not really, Um, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.480 I do I like to put on I like to 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.520 put on I like to put on like a movie 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.400 or something just in the background just so like I 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.840 don't it's not I don't really do like music sometimes 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.880 because you know, depending on the mood. But I like 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.440 to just put on a movie so I could just 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.960 you know, hear it. And I like to be by myself, um, 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.920 in the studio and uh that'll set the mood, you know. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.680 And then just I have like a couple of lights 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.280 on the table, one one top light. It's about it. Yeah, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.120 I'll like burn some like sage or something, so you 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.120 really get in the zone, though, you have to have 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.000 like a hundred and ten percent focus when you know. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.199 Sometimes I like to get really drunk, just be like, man, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.439 I wonder how good I really am for real, and 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.600 just go in wow, yeah, man, Like I mean, clearly 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.880 you have a I can't even tell if you've been 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:08.080 thank God, because I imagine just like I just like 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.680 to crack open and just drink the whole thing, just 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.080 drink the whole thing and just just roll the dice 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:19.040 and be like, let's do it. Yeah, man, that would 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.520 be crazy. I would have I would have called you 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.680 a madman, and I would have never let you touch 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.040 any And if I was like you would have, I 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.160 was like, honestly, I'm so good. I like to blindfold 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.560 myself sometimes, right and just just start painting. At that point, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.559 I would just think that you're like a demon or 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.280 something that you could just like see through the blindfold, 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:41.079 because this is a second that incredible. But so um. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.040 Another question I have for you, since I am easy bust, huh, 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.199 and I deal with like you know, real and fakes 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.920 you do? Yeah, you know. It's it's a little part 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.679 of what shoes. I don't even know what sneakers are. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.360 To be honest, I wear flip flops, but I'm wearing 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.439 some fake shoes or too so just going off that 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.080 tangent um, have anybody ever asked you to paint on 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.800 anything fake? Never? But have you ever been like, oh, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.640 you know what, this looks kind of gazy or just 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.840 super old? But now never, like I could. I've seen 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.120 a lot of goyard of my time where I'm just like, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.520 I know, but someone has sent me something like to 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.880 legit check and I you know, that's where my easy 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:30.240 buster came out. It was like, yo, bro, this isn't verified. Yeah. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.640 I had to cut the card holder in half. Yeah, 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.760 and I sent him back a real one really. Yeah. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.920 It was a little used though, but it's better than 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.640 what he had. Wow, that's crazy. But like you've never 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.400 been like, oh, ship, this person is paying me big 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.280 money and he wants me to paint something fake. No? No, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.400 well normally the people who have the big money don't 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.880 have anything. Yeah, I mean I've been asked to paint 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.760 like heauld be like weird and he paint like Polo 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:04.600 mm hmm, or like you know, like lesser tier. Yeah. Yeah, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.320 that was also going to be another question I had 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.160 for you, like do you only accept working on things 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.840 like go yard and painting on anything? Honestly? But Um, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:16.840 it's just if it's if it's doable or not. Like 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.120 if I if the polo, I didn't take it because 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.160 I forgot what kind of like material is made out of, 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.880 you know what I mean. But um, I've been on 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.920 a lot of stuff that isn't like top tier you know. Um, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.600 but I don't paint on shoes. Um, you've never done 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.800 a shoe huh. I think I did a lubaton once 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.560 for a buddy initials. But I just I don't like 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:46.720 painting like onlike air forces and veins and stuff like 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:51.240 myself included. I don't really like custom sneakers in my opinion, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.000 I'm not crazy about it. It's a it's a big 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.400 community and you know what I mean, that's cool. No, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.280 but it's just that's just something I just that's I knew. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.360 I just wouldn't want to go down I feel you 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.480 you know what I mean. Of course, if I pulled 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.400 up on you, it's some like air forces and I 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.320 just had a bunch of like LV Supreme, you know 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.520 what I mean, like red all over it. You'd be 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.480 like that's whack. Yeah, that's not that's not the real thing. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.840 Yeah exactly, you know what I mean. Like, but I 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.400 mean some of the stuff is kind of cool though, 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.400 you know, like the portraits that people do. But it's 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.480 just I'm not trying to like be like, oh I'm 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.520 too good for that. It's just something that you know, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:36.600 it's never really interested me. Yea interested me, I'm interested. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.280 So um, with that said, like you just wanna just 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.080 kind of stick with just like bags and and like 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.320 wallets and card holders and stuff like that for now. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.160 But have you ever thought about painting like a canvas 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:54.800 and like crazy crazy, I'm doing a canvas right now. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:16:02.520 That's ten ft long, I feet high? Geez, ten ten 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.040 ft long? Bro? Yeah? Yeah, So what are you doing 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.840 that for? Is that something that's top secret? You can't 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.640 it's not top secret. It's he's just a little private. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.160 But you know, um, this is a good friend of 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.240 mine paying me a bag to to do this, so 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.880 you know it's it's something. It's something sick, which I 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.200 think I'm gonna post. It's not something I'm gonna keep 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.640 private it. You know, he's down, he's gonna let me 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.160 like post it. But um, as far as like you 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.160 know who it's for, yeah, I feel you know, I mean, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.840 trust me, I'm like I'm I'm in the industry too, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.960 I know. But how, um, like, are you excited to 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:39.560 do that? Because it's a little bit different than what 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.160 you normally do, because I don't think I've ever seen 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.600 you do an actual like like like a painting on 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.200 something that's not I mean, I'm pretty excited. Is just 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.320 it's just a different medium, you know, Like my canvas 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.920 is usually like expensive stuff. So it's like with the 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.280 regular campus, I wouldn't be as scared to like just 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.200 go in. Yeah you know what I mean, because I'm 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:06.280 just like, brosis't you know, it's like can always fix this? Yeah, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:11.560 you know, this isn't like something super delicate, but yeah, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.840 I'm pretty excited. It's it's gonna be it's gonna be 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.000 a good one. He's it's gonna be like vibrant colors. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:20.399 I'm doing like a big Hollywood um Hollywood sign, and 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.240 then behind it, I'm gonna do like a golden gate 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.919 bridge because he just moved here from San Francisco. Yeah, um, 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:28.960 that's fire. I'm excited to see that. You gotta send 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.560 me a picture of It's crazy. It's it's wild. So 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.480 I have to like rent like a U haul to 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:38.000 like transfer to drop it off. Yeah, well, I mean, um, 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.560 how long do you think that's gonna take you? It's 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.280 definitely not gonna be a two hour job. Probably probably 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:48.720 four really, that dogs like two weeks because I mean 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.399 I don't I don't take in a lot of orders 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.800 like that as it is. I just I'm very like 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.240 it's kind of like honestly, I'm private with it, like 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.199 I only do like referrals now. I don't really take 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.720 a new clients like that. I feel you it's weird. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.080 I mean, I mean, that's the way you should keep it, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.919 you know. I was just like, what, I don't have 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.159 any new clients. It's just like the same, like we're 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.520 currently hey, this so and so wants to get and 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.439 then then and I go and meet up with them. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.159 They're like, hey, so I have like seven pieces, you know. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.000 I'm like, damn, I'm gonna be busy for like a 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:22.240 whole like week and a half. So, um, i've known 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.200 you since is that when we met through a mutual 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.760 friend And to this day, I can never tell if 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.320 you're serious or not. That's good, it's good. That's a 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.680 good train. Bro. You got me like three times already, 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.800 and you want to play poker after this. No, not 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:46.879 with you. I feel like you have a crazy poker face. Okay, 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.679 you win a right, you win? That's it. Do you 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.560 receive hate from from brands for what you do? Because 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.359 I know that you told me you were a banned 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.680 from a couple of stores. Banned from a couple of stores. 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:03.640 And if that girl that banned me is watching, we're 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.640 just gonna give her a look. Yeah, I can't say, 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.560 don't you know what I mean to be respectful, but yeah, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.000 I am banned from UH. I'm not banned from Louis, 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.119 but I am banned from Goyard. Yeah. Well because in 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.240 the Louis Vuitton store, they actually have someone in there 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.320 that like paints at certain shops. So do you think 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.720 that they don't mind what you do or do you 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.240 think that they're Yeah, I think they're a little bit 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:28.400 more open, you know what I mean, and they embrace it. Um. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.200 But I know they can't, like, you know, necessarily paint 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:37.159 certain images because of you know, the galley with the 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:41.320 company and all that. Of course saying um, but I've 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.800 I painted a couple of things and I went to UH. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:47.639 I went to a an event for Wonder Woman and 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.240 the people that represented like Disney or did like the 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.760 licensing for Disney and like Warner Brothers were there. So 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.360 I met I met a couple of ladies and they 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.760 love what I do. And I had to just rub 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:01.360 show there, don't be cool, just so I don't get 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:07.959 hit with you know, Yeah, I'll see you in court. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.240 I mean, are there any rules to that, Like, I mean, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.119 unless I'm painting like a million mickeys into making like 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.800 fifteen million dollars off of Disney characters, and yeah, I 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.840 think so. But it's like one off. It's like, I mean, 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:20.520 if you want to come after me over like six 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.679 hundred bucks, that's fine, you know, but venmo you if 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.040 you want. But I mean, like it's interesting because you know, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.439 cause which is one of the biggest artists in the 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.000 world right now. He's killing it. Bro Like, if you 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.480 think about it, most of his pieces are just Mickey 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.359 Mouse with a different head. He's spin offside. I like 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.720 how he adds his touch to like I loved his 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.239 like poster ad and so you know what I mean, 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.880 those are yo, and I think that's like my thing. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.400 It's like, you know, I saw this window, this opportunity 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.040 to be like, yeah, I'm gonna capitalize on on like 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.320 adding stuff to art already, this is art in itself. 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.720 I wouldn't want to paint on a five thousand all 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.720 the Duffel Bag or seven thousand all the Duffel Bag. Yeah, no, 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.360 of course here I am. So do you think so 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.879 you you actually can get in trouble for something like that, 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.719 even if like it's like a custom piece, you know, 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.080 I mean there's so many ways it plays out, bro, Like, 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.280 like realistically, if they wanted to get really down to it. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.400 I remember at a meeting and they were like, honestly, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.560 the person that paid for you to do the job 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.959 can actually get in trouble as well, because you know 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:27.320 they're they're they're like, uh, accessory to it, but it's 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.320 like they're the ones that's having me do it, you 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.520 know what I mean, I'm just like the middle man realistically. 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.359