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Speaker 2: cover here on another busy Saturday in the sports world, Bucky,

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Speaker 2: I finally found some heat on the road this week.

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Speaker 2: It has been unseasonably cool here in the Los Angeles area,

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Speaker 2: the June gloom just hovering over the city. I went

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Speaker 2: down to San Diego, saw a little sunshine, and then

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Speaker 2: I was in Phoenix last couple of days, Bucky, and

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Speaker 2: it was cooking like it was Phoenix hot one hundred degrees,

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Speaker 2: you know, seven o'clock in the evening night. Want to

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Speaker 2: are you are you missing any heat right now? Do

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Speaker 2: you like it hot or do you like it cool?

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Speaker 2: What is what is the preferred weather for Bucky Brooks?

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Speaker 3: I would say about seventy five to eighty degrees is

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Speaker 3: preferred for me.

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Speaker 2: Then you would love San Diego, because that's perpetual.

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Speaker 3: Iad sunshine and that will that will work.

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Speaker 2: You gotta feel a little heat though the on the

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Speaker 2: stite a little bit, a little bit. We're not getting

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Speaker 2: much of it here, but man, it was cooking in

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Speaker 2: Phoenix the last couple of days. All right, we got

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Speaker 2: a lot of ground to cover here. Once again, Bucky

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Speaker 2: as we are. Well, we're off this weekend as far

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Speaker 2: as the NBA Finals is concerned. Again, the crazy scheduling

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Speaker 2: that they had for these finals will delay Game five,

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Speaker 2: which will be back in Denver on Monday. And you know,

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Speaker 2: last Sunday, Rich and I were sitting here getting ready

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Speaker 2: for Game two, and I made a bold prediction at

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Speaker 2: the end that somehow the Heat we're gonna win Game two.

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Speaker 2: It was a crazy prediction. It turned out to be

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Speaker 2: act and then they go home and they looked bad.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Denver had some great individual performances. But we're talking

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Speaker 2: about a Heat team that's in the NBA Finals that

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Speaker 2: has now lost four straight home games in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So an NBA Finals that you and I talked about,

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Speaker 2: a lot of things would have to go right for

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Speaker 2: Miami to make this a competitive series and Unfortunately, outside

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Speaker 2: of you know, a very impressive fourth quarter run in

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Speaker 2: Game two on the road, we just haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, here's the thing. I love Miami and

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Speaker 3: I love everything that they've done, and what they've been

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Speaker 3: able to do is I mean nothing tory to remarkable.

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Speaker 3: And now I thought, to Milwaukee Bucks, they knocked off

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Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics and the Knicks in between, and now

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Speaker 3: they're facing the team that is a bigger, faster, stronger.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a better and more talented team.

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Speaker 3: And what the Miami Heat needed to be able to

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Speaker 3: win this series, they needed the Nuggets to assist in

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Speaker 3: them winning, meaning turnovers, luster effort, and consistent play. And

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Speaker 3: we haven't seen that. And what we have actually seen

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Speaker 3: is I would say that to Miami Heat have brought

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Speaker 3: out the best of the Denmer Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: Well, here here's the thing about the Nuggets, and we've

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Speaker 2: said this before going into these playoffs, no one was

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Speaker 2: talking about the Nuggets winning a championship outside of Denver,

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Speaker 2: even though they had been the number one seed in

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Speaker 2: the West all the way back to December, so they

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Speaker 2: had clearly dominated this conference over the course of the

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Speaker 2: entire regular season, they've been equally dominant in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: And then we had this Game three, which, you know,

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Speaker 2: there were all these things where, you know, Jokich it

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Speaker 2: was the first player ever in an NBA Finals game

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Speaker 2: with the fact that it was the first time that

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Speaker 2: you had teammates go triple double in a final game.

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Speaker 2: And then somebody really started digging and saying, do you

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Speaker 2: know that this is the first game in NBA history,

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Speaker 2: regular season, postseason final, any game in the history of

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Speaker 2: the NBA where teammates had thirty point triple doubles in

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Speaker 2: the same game. And so what I'm trying to figure out,

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Speaker 2: assuming that Denver is going to close this thing out

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Speaker 2: on Monday, is how much carryover buzz is going to

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Speaker 2: be for Jokic and Murray. You know, Murray has never

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Speaker 2: even made an All Star team. I mean, you watch

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Speaker 2: when you're talking about all NBA players. He's never made

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Speaker 2: an All NBA team for a second or third team

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Speaker 2: never even made an All Star Game. I just wonder

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Speaker 2: if enough people are watching, enough people care to suddenly

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because without the All Star it's

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Speaker 3: hard to say that, like if we talked about from

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Speaker 3: a media standpoint, but if you do the eyeball test

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Speaker 3: and you watched him, the two dominant players, we haven't

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Speaker 3: seen a duo big man little man duo kind of

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Speaker 3: inside outside play, the way that either one can dominate

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Speaker 3: and completely take over the game, Yeah, I think that

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Speaker 3: that has to be a very real conversation. And the

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Speaker 3: thing that has to be a little tough for the

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Speaker 3: Miami Heat is last night you kind of had things

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Speaker 3: maybe kind of fall your way. Djoko didn't have a

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Speaker 3: great game, he was in foul trouble, then he had

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Speaker 3: the injury that kind of limited him. Jamal Murray didn't

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Speaker 3: have a bonkers game, but then Aaron Gordon goes for

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Speaker 3: twenty seven and then Bruce Brown goes big in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and so the game three, you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: beat the Nuggets on that night when Jamal Murray and

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Speaker 3: joke it goes off. But when they didn't have their

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Speaker 3: a game, they still were able to win. I think

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Speaker 3: there's a little bit of regret that it's Miami didn't

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Speaker 3: get Game two when you didn't have the top two guys.

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Speaker 3: With the Nuggets playing at their.

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Speaker 2: Best, I just wonder when this Finals is over. And

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Speaker 2: again this is the assumption. And you know, Mike Malone,

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Speaker 2: the coach of the Nuggets, is predictable at this point.

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Speaker 2: Remember in the beginning, he was complaining constantly that they

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Speaker 2: weren't getting any attention. Remember they played the Lakers and

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Speaker 2: everyone was talking about, hey, the Lakers made a running

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Speaker 2: Game one and the Lakers are going to win Game two,

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Speaker 2: and he goes, I So he was complaining that all

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Speaker 2: And now he complains all the time that all the

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Speaker 2: and everything else does yeah, right, and I love this.

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Speaker 2: He said, I want to make sure my players would

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Speaker 2: get back to Denver and then they're not reading the newspapers.

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Speaker 2: How many players do you think on the Nuggets are

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Speaker 3: A newspaper Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I mean I get that, I get his point.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he wants to make sure that because right now,

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Speaker 3: for the next forty eight hours, they're gonna hear about

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Speaker 3: like I mean, we're already crowning. I think I saw,

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Speaker 3: I was, I was in my car and Danny Shase,

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Speaker 3: I mean they're digging up all the nuggets of the past,

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Speaker 3: Danny Shaves. I heard dan Issel, Alex English, Earl Boykins

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Speaker 3: was on radio talking Earl Boykins about the Nuggets, and

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Speaker 3: so this is the only thing that's left now is

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Speaker 3: they need to bring Carmelo back and have him do

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Speaker 3: the thing as a great nugget.

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Speaker 2: Because where's fat Lever when we need him?

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Speaker 3: Fat Lever? Yes, yes, Fat Lever, Robert Pack, I mean,

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Speaker 3: bring them all back because it is this is a

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Speaker 3: celebration that appears that's going to happen on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: I'll be curious after the NBA Finals, you know, because

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Speaker 2: immediately the odds makers start looking at next season. If

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets close it out back to back, are they

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Speaker 2: going to be the odds on favorite or are they

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Speaker 2: going to figure out ways to downplay Denver like things

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Speaker 2: want their way. Are they going to suddenly reevaluate Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: or are they going to look at Philadelphia or Boston?

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows? Even the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Well, part of that is they do play to the

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Speaker 3: betting favorite, and we know brand name sale and so

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Speaker 3: lo and behold if if Chris Paul somehow ends up

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Speaker 3: with the Lakers, even though we could say, like ten

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Speaker 3: years ago, hold on, yes.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, well, I'm gonna save the Chris Paul for

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Speaker 2: a second because that we're going to get into that

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Speaker 2: on the other side, because the whole idea of a

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Speaker 2: thirty eight year old Chris Paul being available out there,

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Speaker 2: and what kind of interest is in it? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is jokicch marketable. We've been talking about this

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Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, you know, you know Nicola,

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Speaker 2: you know ni Cola. I mean, different ways of marketing

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Speaker 2: in the sky. But you got to believe that Jokic

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Speaker 2: emerges from these NBA finals as marketable. The people are

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Speaker 2: buying in it. People have discovered that nicoliokicch is actually

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Speaker 2: as good, probably better than haveized.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes they do. But in terms of being marketable.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's still.

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Speaker 2: Well marketable in terms of believing in the Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 2: beyond the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean they set a four.

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Speaker 2: Run I mean he was under the same knock that again,

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Speaker 2: Giannis was under for a couple of years winning MVP awards.

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Speaker 2: And where are the Bucks. They're coming up short of

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Speaker 2: the finals and they win a championship. By the way,

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Speaker 2: they took a step back. I just wonder if the

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Speaker 2: fate of the Bucks is a precursor of the fate

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Speaker 2: of this Nuggets team. Do you see this Nuggets team,

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Speaker 2: assuming health, is a team that's gonna rattle off more

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think they once they mastered a code,

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Speaker 3: just because the two guys that are their main two stars.

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Speaker 3: With those two guys, they're gonna be a problem. And

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Speaker 3: then you're already seeing them make moves to be able

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Speaker 3: to position themselves to get young talent where they draft

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Speaker 3: and develop, to surround around Jamal Murray and joke it

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Speaker 3: because they know they're gonna have to pony up Pato's

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Speaker 3: to do it in the new sealar cap areas. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna have to have some cheap young town that are homegrown.

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Speaker 2: All right. Sticking with the NBA, you mentioned it, Chris

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Speaker 2: Paul is done in Phoenix. How it's gonna happen, we

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Speaker 2: don't know. He might sign a smaller contract, they may

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Speaker 2: out release him. They do save some space underneath the cap.

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Speaker 2: I remember new ownership in Phoenix, so a lot of

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Speaker 2: potential destinations. Would he be a good fit for the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers. We're gonna break it down this it's

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Speaker 2: com studios. Among other things, today, the running of the

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Speaker 2: Belmont steaks not a lot of buzz. Obviously, we know

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Speaker 2: remember when Secretariat hit the scene. It is still remarkable,

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Speaker 2: Bucky that this horse, Secretariat still holds the record for

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Speaker 2: Fifty years later. Now that's what we call all time great.

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Speaker 2: at the time, Bucky, because there hadn't been a Triple

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Speaker 2: And when you have dominance at that level, it's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're really excited about it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you have all the things that you can absolutely step

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Speaker 3: This team. Is not a better feeling than that, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because when Secretary had passed away, had an

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Speaker 2: it that way. So anyway, that was fifty years ago.

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Speaker 2: We're not quite obviously at the same level with the

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Speaker 2: Lenks fifty years ago. All right. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 2: where Chris Paul was fifty years I feel like he might.

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Speaker 3: Have been around.

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Speaker 2: He's been around so long. Actually, technically he's thirty eight

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Speaker 2: Paul's recent history, he had that one sort of you know,

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Speaker 2: years ago, Phoenix you know, had over sixty wins. Unfortunately

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Speaker 6: And immediately, immediately, yeah, they're saying, this is what Chris

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Speaker 6: Paul always wanted, to join forces with Lebron James and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that sounds great. So let's let's let's hear

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Speaker 2: from you, Bucky. I want you to close your eyes

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Speaker 3: What do you see. Well, I see a lot of

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Speaker 3: When I look at the rest of the pieces, Lebron

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Speaker 2: Here's what the Lakers need more than a Chris Paul.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not dismissing the idea that

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Speaker 2: when they won the championship in the bubble, they had

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Speaker 3: Won a championship. So when I think about this team

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Speaker 3: you bring him back now, you can't bring so many

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to my mentor, one of my mentors,

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Speaker 2: Al Davis. So, the Kansas City Chiefs back in the

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Speaker 2: So what does he do? He drafts a six foot

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Speaker 2: We can't win a championship. What is our biggot, We

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's all bad. You have to have someone who

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Speaker 3: and you just can't. You can't handle him when he's

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Speaker 3: still have to make him earn some of the stuff are, yes,

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Speaker 3: there are some of He can't just write a passage

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Speaker 3: You gotta make him earn it. So you have to

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Speaker 3: take him back to old school. Let's high school, tryout.

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Speaker 2: Right and again, you know, And this is part of

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Speaker 2: that series knowing, as this team is constructed right now,

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Speaker 2: like when he would say, well, what do you think

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Speaker 2: about next year? Was I don't know what our team's

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Speaker 2: if it looks like a duck does right now, it's

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Speaker 2: not good enough. We need new pieces. We got some

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Speaker 2: good pieces. Hatchamurrow look off any good obviously with Reeves,

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Speaker 2: he's a guy, he's a keeper. But we got to

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Speaker 2: beat that team. Getting in the Western Conference finals, according

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Speaker 2: to Lebron, means nothing. And he's right, all or nothing

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Speaker 2: the way you have to construct. I mean think about it,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you spend all your off season studying them,

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Speaker 3: those things where it's hard to say that they're gonna

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Speaker 3: play this. They're gonna play these teams, but you're not

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Speaker 3: going to invest in the front line. You better have

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Speaker 2: Big guys work folks. They work the hogs. Back in

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Speaker 2: the day, man, that was a big, big team. So

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Speaker 2: you know size counts, and certainly he does right now

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Speaker 2: as Denver is one went away from their first ever

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Speaker 2: what is trending right now, and Nick Kob knows what

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Speaker 2: we're talking about here. Do you think that Nick Chris

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, they need it big, they

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Speaker 4: They want size and they want more outside shooting. That's

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Speaker 2: No, I agree. I mean the only thing he does

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Speaker 4: In the last ten minutes in the NBA, the final

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Speaker 4: are hiring Memphis assistant coach Darko rodja Kovich to be

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Budenhalzer unemployed yep. I think he's

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I know Buck. He's a big

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Speaker 2: doc guy, Like he's ignores ten game seven losses and

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Speaker 2: not a doc guy.

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Speaker 3: But you got to get the game seven to move

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Speaker 3: game seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's had talent. Remember he inherited a fifty five

438
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Speaker 2: win team when he went to the Clippers, and they

439
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Speaker 2: never got past that level. They were that level with

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Speaker 2: Vinnie del Negro as their coach. Yes, oh, I never

441
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Speaker 2: got them beyond that. I had not thought about Vinnie

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Speaker 2: del Negro in a long time, but I mean Vinnie

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Speaker 2: del Negro got them to that level and then he

444
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Speaker 2: just stayed there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Champions League Final, we just got a goal from

446
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Speaker 4: Manchester City, so they've got the one zill lead on

447
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Speaker 4: Inner Milan City trying to become the tenth team to

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Speaker 4: complete the European Trouble. News and Golf as we get

449
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Speaker 4: more details about the PGA Live Golf merger. A report

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Speaker 4: from the Wall Street Journal says that PGA Commissioner Jay

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Speaker 4: Monahan told PGA employees the reason for the merger is

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Speaker 4: because the tour could not financially afford to continue fighting

453
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Speaker 4: legal battles against liv Golf and the Saudi Public Investment

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Speaker 4: Fund while at the same time increasing prize money for

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Speaker 4: its own players. We do have third round of the

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Speaker 4: Canadian Open in progress. Nick Taylor is in the clubhouse

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Speaker 4: at the top of the leaderboard at eleven under with

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Speaker 4: a one shot lead. Rory McRoy is three under fours

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Speaker 4: round today, he is just two shots off the pace.

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Speaker 4: And tennis Egas Fiontek won the women's title for the

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Speaker 4: second straight year.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Novak Djokovic is going for a record twenty third Grand

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Speaker 4: Slam title.

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Speaker 2: One final.

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Speaker 4: So far in baseball, Diamondback shot out the Tigers five

467
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Speaker 4: to nothing. Arizona's in first place in the NLS. They

468
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Speaker 4: have won ten out of twelve NHL. We got Game

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Speaker 4: four of the Stanley Cup Final tonight in Florida Golden

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Speaker 4: Knights with a two to one series lead, and then

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Speaker 4: post time for the Belmont Stakes seven to two Eastern

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Speaker 4: time on Fox guys, back to.

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Speaker 2: You, I was thinking of doing the full three hours

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Speaker 2: today just to build up to the Belmont that I

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Speaker 2: decided against that. And then, by the way, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: I was just in Phoenix, by the way, with that win,

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Speaker 2: at least for the moment, Dodgers are playing right now

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Speaker 2: against Philadelphia. By the way, have the Dodgers lost every

479
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Speaker 2: game the last week on a walk off? And it's

480
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Speaker 2: been crazy. They had three walkoffs and four games against

481
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati and the Phillies. But they're in shock in Phoenix,

482
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Speaker 2: like nobody was buzzing about the Diamondbacks. You know, that's

483
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Speaker 2: a Sun's town, right, That's where they are. Obviously got

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Speaker 2: NFL fans, but the Diamondbacks have been forgotten for a

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Speaker 2: number of years. But there they are in first place

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Speaker 2: in the ns So good stuff there, Nick. We'll check

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Speaker 2: in with you a little bit later on. By the way, Bucky,

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Speaker 2: we are here in the Los Angeles area and the

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Speaker 2: US Open golf tournament is coming this week. How much

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Speaker 2: buzz are you hearing on the streets Bucky about the

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Speaker 2: US Open coming to the Los Angeles area for the

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Speaker 2: first time in seventy five years.

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Speaker 3: Not a lot of buzz but the buzz has been

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Speaker 3: taken up by the merger. Yes, maybe after we get

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Speaker 3: through the weekend and everyone deals with the fallout and

496
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Speaker 3: the hurt feelings from the golfers that stood out in

497
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Speaker 3: opposition of you know, the guys defecting and going to

498
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Speaker 3: live tour, only to now turn around and know that

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Speaker 3: all my words have now been directed right in my book.

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Speaker 2: All right, So this, you know, this was obviously a

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Speaker 2: huge story, Like I mean, you talk about coming out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere, the idea that suddenly everyone's all merged together,

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Speaker 2: all happy and such. And you know j Monahan, the

504
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Speaker 2: PGA Tour commissioner who admitted, yeah, I can call me

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Speaker 2: a hypocrite, call me whatever. Now now much of it's

506
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Speaker 2: coming out, none of this is a surprise. Is that

507
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Speaker 2: there's just too much money on the other side. If

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Speaker 2: they're going to go toe to toe litigation, they can

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Speaker 2: outlast year because they got what six hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 2: And maybe that was the idea from the beginning. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is, this is not And now they're trying to

512
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Speaker 2: figure out some kind of equity stake for those PGA

513
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Speaker 2: Tour players that turn down many of them six fit

514
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Speaker 2: you know, one hundred million dollars to jump to the

515
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Speaker 2: Live Tour because they were under threat that if you

516
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Speaker 2: join the Live Toy, you'd be banned for life on

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Speaker 2: the PGA Tour. So how do you compensate those players?

518
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Speaker 2: So they're talking about some kind of equity shares and

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Speaker 2: everything else. It's a crazy spin, but bucket, I mean

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Speaker 2: this this first of all, the idea that this group

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Speaker 2: would come after golf. Okay, the whole thing's like, why

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Speaker 2: are we spending all this money on golf? Golf is

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Speaker 2: not that I mean it's I mean it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: a niche sport. Obviously, there are a lot of golf

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Speaker 2: fans out there, but it's not like the NFL or

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Speaker 2: you know, these other major team sports leagues. Why would

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Speaker 2: they go after golf. Well, they went after golf to

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Speaker 2: prove that they could get what they want simply with money.

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Speaker 2: And so now I'm looking at this landscape and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: So they now will basically bankroll the PGA Tour, the.

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Speaker 7: European Tour, whatever it's called these days.

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Speaker 2: What's to prevent them from jumping in? Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The American college sports scene with Live I'm not live,

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Speaker 2: but with name, image and likeness, you know, subsidizing programs.

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe knock on North Carolina store, Hey Mac Brown,

536
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Speaker 2: how would you like to have a little more money

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Speaker 2: in the coffer here to be able to bring some

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Speaker 2: of those five star recruits over there into the North

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Speaker 2: Carolina ranks? What's to prevent them from doing to let's

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Speaker 2: say college football, what they did in a very quick

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Speaker 2: amount of time to golf. Money talks, money does talk.

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Speaker 2: The other stuff walks, but what money was talking? Sweet

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Speaker 2: game to me? And I don't know how you explained

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Speaker 2: it in the Hey, this clear the air situation in

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Speaker 2: a circumstance, I don't know if you cleared that.

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Speaker 3: It's tough.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is tough, but I mean there's nothing to

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Speaker 2: stop them nothing. I mean all the threats that were

549
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Speaker 2: made by the PGA Tour and you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: the guys that took the money are laughing all the

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Speaker 2: way to the bank. They got that one hundred million

552
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Speaker 2: dollars in their bank account and they get to return

553
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Speaker 2: to the PGA Tour. They didn't miss a beat. They

554
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Speaker 2: didn't get to have to miss any of the major

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Speaker 2: golf championships. I think Kapka winning the PGA was the

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Speaker 2: final deal because since the four majors in golf are

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Speaker 2: independent of the PGA Tour, any tour, they could set

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Speaker 2: their own rules. And they all basically said, look, our

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Speaker 2: qualification for our tournaments is not going to change. If

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Speaker 2: you qualify, you're in. We don't care where you come from.

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Speaker 2: So you just I just wonder again when you look

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Speaker 2: at college football now, and you knew this was going

563
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Speaker 2: to happen, Bucky once the Pandora's box was open, and

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Speaker 2: I remember in the beginning, you remember it was going

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Speaker 2: to be California only, and how are there? I said,

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Speaker 2: what do you what are you talking about? California and

567
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Speaker 2: all this is going to sweep NCA. They just took

568
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Speaker 2: a step back, said all right, you're on your own now.

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Speaker 2: So now you got all these schools and they're looking

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Speaker 2: for more and more money to entice these players, high

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Speaker 2: school recruits, transfers, whoever. It's it's open business. And you know,

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Speaker 2: there could be somebody sitting over there saying, all right,

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Speaker 2: well we run the golf world. Now, this could be

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Speaker 2: pretty lucrative if we jump over there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot to unpack with that, I will say

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Speaker 3: that golf is fighting for a premier space outside of

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Speaker 3: the Masters and some of the other notable term you

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Speaker 3: wait and see who's in the final round where they

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Speaker 3: add in the final pairing. Yeah, I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to do. And so when I sit here and

581
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Speaker 3: I think about just what are they going to do,

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Speaker 3: because now they've not only I mean got in bed

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Speaker 3: with someone that do very critical love, but now those

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Speaker 3: people take over ownership and certainly they've heard what was

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Speaker 3: said about them. You can't ignore it. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I just worry about the others involved in this, and

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Speaker 3: I worry about the outcome.

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind, one of the one of the leagues

589
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Speaker 2: that was very excited about all this noise about this

590
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Speaker 2: money subsidizing this rival tour is the NBA. Again, the

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Speaker 2: number is this. The NBA makes roughly five billion dollars

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Speaker 2: a year from China miss a lot five billion dollars

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Speaker 2: a year, which is a big reason why these guys

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Speaker 2: are making so much money. No one's talking about that anymore. Remember,

595
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Speaker 2: there was a concern for a while there that wow,

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Speaker 2: all that money is coming from China, Yeah, into the NBA.

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Speaker 2: And if you walk the streets of China, you see

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Speaker 2: NBA stores all over the place.

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Speaker 3: And so here's the thing about the tour and Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 3: and people are talking about the fun that is footing

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Speaker 3: the bill for this one. As these price tagets go up.

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Speaker 3: We saw Josh Harris may have twenty partners who can

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Speaker 3: afford to really own a team. And so now you

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Speaker 3: have a Saudi fun that it just printing cash and

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Speaker 3: buying up all these teams. Are we going to have

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Speaker 3: somebody from this fun eventually own an NFL team soon?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 2: I want to explore us a little bit further with

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Speaker 2: you on the other side, because I want to just

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Speaker 2: get into this idea of tainted money in the sports world,

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Speaker 2: something you and I love. We love sports. Sports has

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Speaker 2: consumed our.

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Speaker 3: Lives, right, Tainted money. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to use I mean, there's other

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Speaker 2: terms for it, but tainted in terms of people questioning

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Speaker 2: the origins of where all this money is coming from

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Speaker 2: to subsidize the sports world. This is Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Bucky Brooks. You're listening to Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Saturday and we are live from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. So, yeah, the biggest story in the Sports

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Speaker 2: Earl this week, no question, the unexpected, out of left

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Speaker 2: field merger between LIFGLF and the PGA Tour, the European Tour,

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Speaker 2: deep Tour whatever they call it these days, and I

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00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: don't know, I keep changing the name anyway. It really

625
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: comes down to a lot of people trying to take

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Speaker 2: a stand, and this was the PGA Tours stand. They

627
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Speaker 2: really played up. So the families of nine to eleven

628
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: that were outraged that these golfers would take blood money.

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Speaker 2: Forget the term blood money. Let's talk tainted, tainted in

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Speaker 2: terms of controversy. Meanwhile, as I mentioned, I don't think

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Speaker 2: anyone's going to be sitting by and parade around talking

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Speaker 2: about the great human rights practices and countries like China

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Speaker 2: or an average of five billion dollars a year into

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Speaker 2: the NBA. Does it even matter, Bucky? I mean, I

635
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Speaker 2: mean as if you're a professional athlete and you're making

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Speaker 2: more than ninety nine point nine percent of the world

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Speaker 2: in terms of salary. And I'm not saying they're not

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Speaker 2: earning it, because if they're willing to pay it, you've

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Speaker 2: earned it. So that's not the question. The question is

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Speaker 2: do you really question where that money is coming from.

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Speaker 2: Does it really matter? You know?

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I used to.

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Speaker 3: So I worked for the Carolina Panthers for a long time,

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00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: and so Jerry Richison de late Jerry Rison was the

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Speaker 3: owner of the team. Then Jerry Richson kind of got

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Speaker 3: us start with Hardy's and then he had Hardy's out

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Speaker 3: here how West is statis Carls Junior. But then he

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Speaker 3: moved over to Denny's and back in the South, Denny's

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Speaker 3: had some controversy. I can say that, even though you

651
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Speaker 3: could be for the cause and the movement, I don't

652
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Speaker 3: know if it impacted me in terms of thinking about

653
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Speaker 3: where mister Richison got his money and how the check

654
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: was coming in on the first and fifteenth. And so

655
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Speaker 3: I understand people who want to take the moral stand

656
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: on those things because we hear it, not only like

657
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 3: we talked about Suddy Araby. We hear people talk about

658
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: China and sweatshops and all these things. And people have

659
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: taken some players to task for being supportive of some

660
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Speaker 3: things but not supportive of other things and those things.

661
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Speaker 3: But it's really hard now because everything is so like convoluted,

662
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: everything is so corporate, and these big entities we talk

663
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: about these wealth funds and all that. You really don't

664
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Speaker 3: know who owns what and where he's coming from.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have a global economy, right, isn't that what

666
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people have been pursuing. Now this is

667
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: sort of the controversy in our American politics, you know,

668
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: sort of keep an in house as opposed to sharing

669
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Speaker 2: it with the rest of the world. So you're right,

670
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it is convoluted. Where is all the money

671
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: coming from? We're not exactly sure at all times. You know.

672
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: Bryce and de Shamba got into some heat when he

673
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: was interviewed talking about this merger and he said something

674
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Speaker 2: along the lines of, even though those families that were

675
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: affected by nine to eleven, there's no way to ever

676
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: you know, put pieces back together, so to speak. Maybe

677
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: it's time to forgive and move on, not forget, but

678
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: understand that you know, this happened. I mean, and of

679
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: course that was met with it was just outrage, like

680
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: people are like.

681
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: Wasn't wasn't the greatest response.

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00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't And it just sounded like someone that was

683
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Speaker 2: completely out of tude. The best thing for Bryce and

684
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: to Shambo is to just not say anything. And you know,

685
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: he said, hey, this is a great thing for the

686
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: future of golf. Well, understand this now for many people,

687
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: they will never look at the golf world the same

688
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: way because now the money is one clear source and

689
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: you're either okay with it or you're not okay with it. Yeah,

690
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: But as far as the golfers are concerned, I can't

691
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Speaker 2: anybody walking away from playing professional golf at the highest

692
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Speaker 2: level because they're outraged at where the money is coming from.

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing that I wonder about, like, now that

694
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 3: it's all sit and done and you had people taking

695
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: those splits, how everyone taking their sides and how do

696
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: you meild this back to the other in one happy family?

697
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: Because now we're going to have these events where every

698
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: a everyone's invited. So how are we going to handle

699
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Speaker 3: all this stuff? And if you're the guys who stood

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Speaker 3: for the stand and I know they talked about equity

701
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Speaker 3: stake and all of that, but still that doesn't put

702
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Speaker 3: the two face back in the two how do you

703
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Speaker 3: handle all of this stuff that has going on when

704
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Speaker 3: you were tried it out, paraded out kind of seen

705
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Speaker 3: as you know the guys that's a spokesperson for the

706
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Speaker 3: City on the Hill, which was the PGA and then

707
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 3: the City on the Hill folded because they wanted to

708
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Speaker 3: take the money that they said you shouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, once again, we are broadcasting for the

710
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Speaker 2: tirerech dot Com Studios. The guy that really made out

711
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: in this is Brooks Kopka oh Man, because Keopka was

712
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: hurt and his game had fallen off so dramatically that

713
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: he suddenly looked at the live tour option as maybe

714
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: some kind of salvage. If I'd never get my game back,

715
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Speaker 2: at least I'll have money in the bank. Well, he

716
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: ended up getting the money in the bank and he

717
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Speaker 2: got his game back. Yes, so he got it all

718
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Speaker 2: and now he gets the joint back on the PGA Tour.

719
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Speaker 2: After that there will be no live tour. Understand. The

720
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Speaker 2: other thing about it is how do you feel about

721
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: golf and no cuts? Because this was a big play

722
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Speaker 2: and live and I used to say about golfers, man,

723
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Speaker 2: you got to earn it. Half the field every week,

724
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Speaker 2: doesn't make the cut. You don't make the cut. You

725
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: don't make you don't make one any I think I'm

726
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Speaker 2: gonna guess those days are over.

727
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Speaker 3: Don't make one penny?

728
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Speaker 2: Small smaller, yeah, small, I mean you missed the cut.

729
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: You don't get actually paid for the tournament. You get nothing, zero, nothing,

730
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Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see how it all plays out.

731
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Speaker 2: All right. Coming up on the other side, the NBA

732
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Speaker 2: Finals have resumed. How much longer? How much longer will

733
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Speaker 2: Miami survive? We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, rolling along here on another busy Saturday, Fox

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Speaker 2: to wait till Monday for Game five of the NBA Finals,

745
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Speaker 2: off this weekend, obviously, the Nuggets trying to close it

746
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: out at home and claim their forever NBA championship. I

747
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: wanted to touch on something before we get back to

748
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Speaker 2: these NBA Finals. We don't do a lot of tennis

749
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: talk here the French Open is going to conclude tomorrow

750
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 2: with the men's final. Novak Djokovic is going to try

751
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: to become the winningest men's player ever in terms of

752
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: career Grand Slam titles, going for number twenty three. But

753
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: but I wanted to talk to you about his semi

754
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: final win against the youngest player ever to assume the

755
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: number one ranking in the world, Carlos Alcarez, at age nineteen,

756
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: had already ascended to the number one ranking won the

757
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: US Open last year. And I don't know if you

758
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: heard or even saw any of the semi final match

759
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Speaker 2: between Alcarez and Djokovic, but he had a twenty year

760
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: old going against a thirty six year old. First couple

761
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: of sets were dynamic. In fact, Alcoa has made this

762
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: incredible forehand where he turned around and it made it all,

763
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: you know, was buzzing. And then by his own emission,

764
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: his entire body started shutting down. And Djokovic won the

765
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: last two sets six to one, sixty one, and Alcarez admitted,

766
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: and this guy mature beyond his years, obviously that he

767
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: was so nervous going into this match, you know, obviously

768
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Speaker 2: going against someone that was by the way playing in

769
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Speaker 2: their forty fifth career Grand Slam semi final. I had

770
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: just a staggering number for Djokovic, but he basically used

771
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Speaker 2: up all his energy in the first two sets. It

772
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: was intense match, back and forth, and then his body

773
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: just shut down, Like he said, my entire my hand

774
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: was cramped, My whole body was cramping up. And he

775
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: just admitted that he was nervous. And you know, understandably

776
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: so playing this all time legend, even though he was

777
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 2: the number one rank player, and a lot of people

778
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: assume maybe this was time for passing the baton as

779
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: an athlete, and we talk about physical conditioning and sort

780
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: of that balance of the physical conditioning and the mental conditioning.

781
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I've known players. My dear friend Nick Hardwick,

782
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: longtime center for the Chargers, he literally threw up before

783
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: every single game, Yeah, every single game that he played.

784
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Speaker 3: To deal.

785
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: So how do you I mean, I just can't imagine.

786
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean for us, you know, everyday people when you

787
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: go out on the big stage, whether it's a physical

788
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: game or whatever it is. But when you're an athlete

789
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: and that balance between i mean physically ready and then

790
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: mentally ready, how challenging is that.

791
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Speaker 3: It's a tremendous challenge. It's a challenge because you have

792
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: to teach, and it starts early. You have to teach

793
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: young people how to play through the butterflies and the nerves,

794
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: anything that you've wanted to do, that you really care

795
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: about that means a lot to you. You normally have

796
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: some kind of anxiety leading up to it, probably the

797
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Speaker 3: first time that you took the mic on air, TV

798
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Speaker 3: or whatever, like the same butterflies or rubber legs that

799
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: you have. Athletes experience it, and what happens is someone

800
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: would tell you, Hey, the butterflies are normal, it's a

801
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: normal situation. They normally go away right after you kind

802
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: of start playing. For me and football, after the first hit,

803
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: after the first time you touch the ball, the first

804
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: time you get hit, like everything goes away. Then you

805
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: start to kind of start settling in and you're able

806
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: to play the game. But you want to get that

807
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Speaker 3: in and you have to coach people through it now,

808
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: people who are high anxiety, you have to give them

809
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Speaker 3: coping mechanisms. When I was in college, I work with

810
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Speaker 3: a sports psychologist. His name was doctor Richard Coop, and

811
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Speaker 3: so doctor Coop had worked with a bunch of golfers,

812
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 3: and so we would do a thing the night before game.

813
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: We'd do visualization. He would have you kind of see

814
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: the game ahead of time and do it. Give me

815
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Speaker 3: a handful of breathing exercises that you would go through

816
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: and do prior to the game. If you get nervous

817
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: in the game, if something happens, it just give you

818
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: a couple of different things that you could utilize to

819
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: help you get past that moment. And experience gives you

820
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: an opportunity to work past that. You're like, okay, I've

821
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: been there before, I know this, this is like common

822
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: and you get better. That's why when people talk about

823
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: playoff experience and championship experience, in those things, it does matter.

824
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: Doesn't guarantee that you're gonna win, but you should be

825
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Speaker 3: able to handle the moment in terms of how quickly

826
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Speaker 3: can I get past the anxiety to then kind of

827
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Speaker 3: get caught up in the game, lose yourself in the

828
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: competitiveness of the game. And you have to be able

829
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: to do it without worry about the outcome. You have

830
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: to just kind of play the game and do it.

831
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Speaker 3: And I read this thing and it's that last year,

832
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: like you know because I coached high school ball out

833
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: here and we made a championship run and we won

834
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: championship like locally and those things. But I remember reading

835
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Speaker 3: something about Phil Jackson, and Phil Jackson said, in big games,

836
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: the calmest team wins. So in spite of what Hollywood

837
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: has presented in terms of win one for the Gipper

838
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: and all that, the best thing that you can do

839
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: is calm your team down and calm yourself down to perform,

840
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: because you just want to treat it like any other day.

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Speaker 2: Well, when I look at this situation with al Karez,

842
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: you feel like he just used up all his energy

843
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: too quickly. I can't even imagine what it was like

844
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: for you the first time he stepped on an NFL field,

845
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: because I mean, you play high school ball, you played

846
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: college ball, you played and then all this sudden you're

847
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: you're just you're almost in an out of body experience,

848
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: like Okay, I know that this is something I've always

849
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: dreamt of, but it's actually happening. Like I'm I'm actually

850
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: on an NFL feel right now. You want to be intense,

851
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, you just know everything's gonna move a little faster.

852
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to hit harder. I'm gonna have to

853
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: just I have to do. And you could use up

854
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: all that energy you can in a blink of an

855
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: eye and all of a sudden. We see it all

856
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: the time, right in the NFL, when you suddenly go

857
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: from a twelve game schedule to seventeen, you hit the wall.

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00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: We've seen it in a lot of sports, you know,

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00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: you college basketball, you go from a thirty game season

860
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: to eighty games and suddenly you hit a wall, like

861
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: I've used up so much energy, so much, and I

862
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: can't say how to pace yourself.

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00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: So mental fatigue. So a lot of times you have

864
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: to teach athletes how to go into it. I mean,

865
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: if it's a big game, So I imagine you ucla

866
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: USC playing the costume big game or the Rose Bowl,

867
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: a lot riding on it. You come out, so now

868
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: you got pregame, you have the atmosphere, the bands are

869
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: beginning to play, people are following in. You've heard about

870
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 3: it all week, and if you're not careful, you'll play

871
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: yourself out in warm ups like you're amped up, you're

872
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: running around, you're doing all this other stuff, and you're

873
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: exhausted because you've burnt all the stuff, and so you

874
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: have to teach people how to handle those environments. Hey, guys, breathe, relax,

875
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: ease into the moment. We're good. You have to talk

876
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: to them self. Talk is big. Breathing exercises are huge,

877
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: because I think you've done this about me, Like I'm

878
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: a yogi, Like I go to yoga, I practice yoga

879
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: or whatever, and a lot of things are tied to

880
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: Everything is tied to your breath. And so if you

881
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: can control your breathing, you can control like your heart

882
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: rate and bring everything down. But if you don't have

883
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 3: anything any mechanisms to help you, I mean, your heart

884
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: is banging out your chest, you can't breathe, the hyperventilating.

885
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: It's tough well, and not everyone gets there.

886
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 8: You know.

887
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: This is why when you look back and just using

888
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: tennis as an example, when you had feder and Nadal

889
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: and Djokovic, these three players rewriting the record books, you know,

890
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: all when he at least twenty, and they would sometimes

891
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: hook up in a final at a Grand Slam, and

892
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: it's going five sets, and it's five or six hours

893
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: on the court, and they're still hitting unbelievable shots in

894
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 2: that fifth set and you're thinking, how are they still

895
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: doing this? The body's gotta be wearing down. So now

896
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: it becomes a mental gig. Their mental game is willing

897
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: their body to keep it going. And again, for ninety

898
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: nine point percent of the world, we just we don't

899
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: get it. We don't know, but you know how mentally

900
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: you can summon more out of that body.

901
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: So for me, because if you ask me what do

902
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: I miss about playing sports? I missed that part of it.

903
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: I missed that part. I think the best way to

904
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: take you in it like as a movie Buff Russell

905
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: Crowe and Gladiator. Yes, when you walk into the arena

906
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: and it's that that feel everybody And I'll say this like,

907
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 3: particularly in football, everyone who plays football is half cock.

908
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: Like you're a little crazy to do it just because

909
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 3: of the physicality and all that other stuff. But there

910
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: is nothing like when you step in the arena. And

911
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: for me as a kick returner, there's nothing like they're

912
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: playing the music in pregame, they're coming, everyone's going, and

913
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: then it's that they tear it up. The whistle goes

914
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: and you see the kicker approach it and no matter

915
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: how loud it is, when you hear the f everything

916
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: is quiet, and it's this thing where everything slows down.

917
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: You catch, you run to play whatever, you get tackled,

918
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: and then as soon as you hit the ground, all

919
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 3: the noise comes back and you back in it. And

920
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: so it's the surreal thing. And so a lot of

921
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: what I think players miss when they're not that is

922
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: that because some people are built for some people love it.

923
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: I craved it. I loved it. I love that competitiveness.

924
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: And you know, the bigger games, like when you get

925
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: to where he was in the semis, the game is faster,

926
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 3: the points are more meaningful because it has a greater

927
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: level of significance. And so the main thing is can

928
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: you play in a big game but not allow it

929
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: to overwhelm you where you think about the consequences of

930
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: your actions and you just able to focus on, Hey man,

931
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: I'm just doing it just like I would do it

932
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 3: in the backyard. We're gonna do the same thing because

933
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: those who really win and excel in those moments, they

934
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: just do the ordinary stuff without thinking about the circumstances

935
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: around it.

936
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: I thought Djokovic was great in the aftermath, it was

937
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: obvious what had happened. Now Karez and you know, He

938
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: just simply told him, you'll figure it out. You're gonna

939
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: win plenty of these. Don't worry because you know Fetter's gone.

940
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: Nadal said, one more year. Maybe we don't know he's

941
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: missing the rest of this year. I'm not going to

942
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: be playing forever. This is going to be yours. But

943
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: you learn a lesson and you're just going to have

944
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to slow things down.

945
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: And the only thing that can prepare you for it

946
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: is you have to do it. Yes, And the thing

947
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: about it is you never know how many times you

948
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to do it and so, but with

949
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: that experience comes expertise, and the more you do it

950
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: at a higher level, the easier it becomes to handle

951
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: your emotions. It doesn't guarantee that you win, but you

952
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: understand how to prepare for it, how to do it,

953
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: how to deal with all the circumstances that come along

954
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: with it.

955
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 8: All.

956
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: Right, question is can the Miami Heat summon the right

957
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: mental and physical balance to get back in the series

958
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: down three games one to the Denver Nuggets. What will

959
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: have to happen Monday for the Heat to bring it

960
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: back to Miami for Game six. We'll break it down.

961
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Bucky Brooks

962
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming in live from the ti

963
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: Raq dot Com studios. Now, I've always said this about

964
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: any job, whether it's playing in the NFL, broadcasting, no

965
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: matter what job you do. If you've never done a

966
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: job before, Let's say you're collecting trash and you have

967
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: no idea what you're doing, there's going to be anxiety.

968
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: So people say, well, how do you learn. It's like

969
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: any job, you do it over and over and over again,

970
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: and then all those Yeah. Now, people always talk about

971
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: an in air an NFL player, the game slows down,

972
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: right because you've seen the script before, and you play

973
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: game after game after game after game after game after game,

974
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: and suddenly there's a certain pattern and you have your

975
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: own way of sort of getting yourself ready to go.

976
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: And so it really is, no, every job is the

977
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: same way. It doesn't matter what the job is. Experience

978
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: absolutely counts. Now, I don't know what kind of experience

979
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: Miami their takeaway from what happened in Games three and

980
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: four at home. By the way, I imagine a team

981
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: that's made it to the NBA Finals, Miami has now

982
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: lost their last four home games in the playoffs. Yeah,

983
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: so so much for that home court advantage. I mean

984
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: they had to be sky high right after stealing Game

985
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: two in Denver with that phenomenal fourth quarter and feeling

986
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: really good at going into Game three, and then you'll

987
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: catch to Murray have their historic day. Well that's one

988
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: thing in game three, but in Game four with jokicch

989
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: hurt and then in foul trouble and Murray can't shoot

990
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: the ball straight, it was there for you and you

991
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: could not take advantage. So I know that, you know,

992
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, Eric Spolstro, they've had a certain demeanor throughout

993
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: these playoffs, like no one expected us to get this far,

994
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: and they're talking out that, Hey, we fully expected we're

995
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: going to be back here for Game six in Miami.

996
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: So let's we know the reality of you know, size

997
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: and skill versus skill. In other words, the skill level

998
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: of Denver is the equal, if not greater, in Miami.

999
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: And oh that's right, they also have complete size advantage.

1000
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: So what are you doing out, Jimmy Butler, Eric Spolster,

1001
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: They're a team. How can you steal a game five

1002
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: in Denver? I think you have to double down on

1003
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: your effort and your toughness. I think this game has

1004
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: been one where I'm I mean, this series has been

1005
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: one where both teams have played with extreme effort, outside

1006
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: of Game two, where Mike Malone talked about, hey, we

1007
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: didn't bring the effort, we didn't bring the force.

1008
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 3: We shouldn't have to talk about this. And so now

1009
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: you have a more talented, more skilled team that is

1010
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: bringing the level of effort. The Miami Heat wins. And

1011
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: this is not being disrespectful to the players. They have

1012
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 3: always won, particularly in the postseason, because they play harder,

1013
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: They're tougher, they're rougher than you. They make you play

1014
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: on their terms, and they are the masters are playing

1015
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: that that. They grimy, gritty basketball. The Denver Nuggets have

1016
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: learned how to play that. And so now when you

1017
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: take a team that is as tough, as disciplined, as

1018
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: detailed as the Miami Heat with greater talent, well now

1019
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: you see those things. Because when I watched the game,

1020
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: it is as if the Miami Heater are kind of

1021
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: working uphill the entire game. When you watch them, everything

1022
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: is really difficult and hard and challenging for them to

1023
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: get buckets, whereas for the Nuggets man their possessions where

1024
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: it's just so easy for them to get layups in

1025
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: those things. And so what Miami has to do is

1026
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: they have to kind of take away the comfort that

1027
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: the Nuggets are playing in and they have to force

1028
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: turnovers because without the turnovers, without the extra possessions that

1029
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: the opponent gives them, it's going to be very difficult

1030
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: to knock off the Nuggets in a straight up game.

1031
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: All right, So Miami was eyewitnessed to a team coming

1032
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: back from a three to zero deficit to force a

1033
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: game seven. What takeaway can Miami get from what almost

1034
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: happened to them against the Boston Celtics. They saw what

1035
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: the Celtics did. I remember after losing Game three, that

1036
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: Celtics team was not just down three to zero, they

1037
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: were getting.

1038
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 3: Eviscerator dead in the water.

1039
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you had Magic Johnson say a forty four

1040
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: years associated with this league, I never thought I would

1041
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: see a franchise at the Celtics. And there's seventeen championships

1042
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: quit on a court.

1043
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: So they've already taken a page from the Celtics. The

1044
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: only thing they talked about was, hey, let's get it

1045
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: back to the three h five. Let's see if we

1046
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: can find a way to have a game six. He

1047
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: can win game five and give us a chance to

1048
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: just get back home. And it's cliche and people talk

1049
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: about one game at a time and those things, but

1050
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: that's all that you can do. Let's just find a

1051
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: way to get this done and see if we can

1052
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 3: get a game back in Miami. So because then if

1053
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: you get to Miami, you're saying home game, we're gonna

1054
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 3: play a little better. Maybe we win that one, and

1055
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: then game seven takes is a life of its own anyway,

1056
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: And so if you're Miami, you've already wrote one. In Denver,

1057
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: you won game two in Denver, you are just trying

1058
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: to find a way, ay, no matter, no matter what

1059
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: it looks like. Let's just see if we can get

1060
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: a dub and make them have to get on the

1061
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: plane to go back to Miami, and then we'ld take

1062
00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: our chances.

1063
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: All you are a Heat fan, you know, Johnny come lately,

1064
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: you're a true Heat fan. You hear what Eric Spolster said,

1065
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: There's never going to be any panic out of Eric Spolster.

1066
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: It's not going to be any panic out of Jimmy Butler.

1067
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, there were times last night or

1068
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: in uh yeah, last night where you know, Butler was

1069
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: very conscious of what he had said that we got

1070
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: to be more aggressive, especially after that game won when

1071
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: they only shot the two free throws and he was

1072
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: purposely going to the hoop. A lot of things wentn't

1073
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: right for Miami last night. You know, they got Jokich

1074
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: and foul trouble. We talked about that, how do you

1075
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: neutralize Jokic. One way to neutralize him's put him on

1076
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: the bench, can out of the game, force him to

1077
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: do some things defensively they might get him into trouble.

1078
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: So they did all the right things, they just couldn't

1079
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: close the deal. And I think that's also a testament

1080
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: to where Denver is in the mindset of Malone. This

1081
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: group has been around a long time, the nucleus of

1082
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: this Nuggets team, coach, players have gone through quite a

1083
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: bit over the last several years to get to this point.

1084
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: So that's the one thing that Miami has to understand

1085
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: is when Denver takes that court. I mean, can you

1086
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: imagine I don't what are the ticket prices on that

1087
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: and can you imagine where the ticket prices are a

1088
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: chance to be there in Denver for your team's first

1089
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: ever NBA championship after all these years. I mean, that

1090
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: place is going to be rocking. So if you're Miami,

1091
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: you're going to have to somehow get over the initial

1092
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: tidal wave of emotion some of that. But you know,

1093
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: the Nuggets knocked down a couple of quick threes or

1094
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: you know, start making a couple of quick shots, that

1095
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: place is going to rrupt.

1096
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: So there are a few ways to look at it.

1097
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: If you're Miami, man, there's no pressure on you. Just

1098
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: play free and loose. You're not expected to win those things,

1099
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: So take your shots, play hard or whatever. The part

1100
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: where you can see and normally sometimes these elimination these

1101
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: final games can get out of hand. Is because when

1102
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: you lose hope and so you talk about the barrage

1103
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 3: of threes and the Nuggets making the push and those things.

1104
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: As you get into the second half and you're looking

1105
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: up at the school board and if you down double digits,

1106
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: do you have the toughness to continue to lock in

1107
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: and keep playing or do you let goard the rope?

1108
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: A lot of times in those games, guys let goard

1109
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: the rope. They don't feel like they have a chance

1110
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: to win. A team doesn't feel like it has a

1111
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: chance to win. They've seen it. They're like, you know what,

1112
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: we just it's just not our year. Do they have

1113
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: the toughness to be able to do it? However, if

1114
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 3: they're able to do it, because they just witnessed it

1115
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: what Boston did, they gained a measure of confidence. Hey guys,

1116
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: cut it to three to two. They gott to come

1117
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: see us. We've seen this before, so it's violent. The

1118
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 3: other thing, if you're the Nuggets, why you don't want

1119
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: to mess around the longes. This series goes the odds

1120
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: of somebody. We saw it with joking sprain an ankle.

1121
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: All it takes is one little random freak thing, and

1122
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 3: I wouldn't wish that on anybody. But I'm just saying the.

1123
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: Longest, absolutely, the longer it goes.

1124
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 3: Any little crazy thing, jam finger, anything can stem the tide,

1125
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: can completely reverse the momentum of the series. And so

1126
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: if you're the Nuggets, you want to take care of business.

1127
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: You don't want to have to get on the plane.

1128
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 3: And if you're Miami, if you can make them get

1129
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: on the plane, man, you got a chance.

1130
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 2: By the way, they're doing a little pre race here

1131
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: on the Belmont, and they had a big feature on

1132
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: the fiftieth anniversary of Secretariat's dominant performance. Secretariat has two

1133
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: children still alive. They just showed one of them. This

1134
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: horse is thirty four years old, Vice Secretariat. There's a

1135
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: little bit of a yeah, yeah, this is like, yeah,

1136
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: we're watching three year all run in the Belmont here,

1137
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: and I just you know, I don't.

1138
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: Know thirty four year old. Of course, how old is that?

1139
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: That's old. That's old.

1140
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's yeah, that's pretty old.

1141
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: Let's find out what's trending right now. I don't know

1142
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: how much knowledge Nick Cope has on horse racing. It's

1143
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: pretty limited. Yeah, I really is. I mean, like I said,

1144
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: for someone of my generation, Secretariat was a huge story.

1145
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't overstate it. Winning the Triple Crown,

1146
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: first one in twenty five years. The dominance of this horse,

1147
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: Imagine still holds the fastest time in all three Triple

1148
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 2: Ground races.

1149
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: Just that shot from the end of the front stretch

1150
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: looking back, where you see the distance as Secretariat is finishing,

1151
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 4: already won lengths to Belmont. Yeah, it's just incredible to

1152
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 4: see that call of it.

1153
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: The guy actually at the finish, I think the actually

1154
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: guy that called the race at twenty five lengths and

1155
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: then later had a correct and stuff. He goes it

1156
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:55,959
Speaker 2: was hard.

1157
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: How can you even tell at that point twenty five

1158
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: versus thirty.

1159
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean it was he's gonna win, the horse is

1160
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: gonna win. Yeah, just absolute dominance out there. So very

1161
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: busy day as usual.

1162
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: Next.

1163
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were wondering, by the way, about the price

1164
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 4: for a game five on Friday in Denver, the get

1165
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 4: in just the get in price.

1166
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: You're looking about one thousand, oh give or take. Yeah,

1167
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: I know, now you know. I remember this with the

1168
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: La Kings hockey team in twenty twelve. So they had

1169
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: won the first three games. In game four to sweep

1170
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: off the Devils, you had all these Johnny come Lately,

1171
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: you knew, people that weren't even Kings fans, that paid

1172
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: huge money. It is lost to be there, and the

1173
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: Kings lost went back to Jersey. Devil's win another one.

1174
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: So now it comes back to game six and all

1175
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: those people that spent all their money in Game four

1176
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: weren't around, which meant the real diehard Kings fans, the

1177
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: true fans who had waited for this moment. They were

1178
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: there for Game six, dominant at that game. It was

1179
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: very emotional. Yeah, but you finally win that first championship.

1180
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 4: By the way, still sticking with the finals, this story

1181
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 4: a little offbeat, but I don't know if you saw it.

1182
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: Perhaps maybe a microcosm for the Finals. During a time out,

1183
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 4: you had Bernie the mascot for the heat, yes, and

1184
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor coming out, and he was peddling some sort

1185
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: of some sort of spray that's supposed to help with

1186
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 4: pain relief, and Connor McGregor just knocked the mascot out

1187
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 4: first with the left hook. Then poor guy in the

1188
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 4: mascot suit is on the ground on his back and

1189
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 4: McGregor hits him again before you know, putting his spray

1190
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 4: on him and walk away.

1191
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 2: Apparently that gentleman needed to go to the er last night.

1192
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: But he is okay now, I mean there's a major

1193
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: lawsuit coming right. You're not allowed to attack someone just

1194
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: because they're in a mascot suit, are you.

1195
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what the person signs in order to

1196
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 4: be in the mascot suit, but apparently he was given

1197
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 4: pain medication by the doctor and has since been sent

1198
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: home and is doing well. But poor Bernie there really

1199
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 4: really took one on the chin, by the way. The

1200
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 4: final head coaching vacancy in the NBA has now been

1201
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 4: filled multiple reports, and the Raptors are hiring Grizzly's assistant

1202
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 4: Darko Radjakovich to be their next head coach. He spent

1203
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 4: the last ten years in the NBA as an assistant,

1204
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 4: also spending time with the Thunder and the Suns. No

1205
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: details on the contract terms just yet. Champions League Final

1206
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 4: it is a final in Istanbul, Manchester City defeating inter

1207
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 4: Milan one mil to become the tenth team to complete

1208
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 4: the European Treble, first English club to do it since

1209
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 4: Manchester United in nineteen ninety nine. In Golf Wall Street

1210
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 4: Journal reporting, PGA commissioner Jay Monahan told pg employees the

1211
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 4: reason for the merger with Live Golf is because the

1212
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: tour could not financially afford to continue fighting legal battles

1213
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: against the Saudi Public Investment Fund. On the course at

1214
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: the Canadian Open in Toronto, Tommy Fleetwood and Ry McElroy

1215
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 4: are tied for the lead at twelve under. For them,

1216
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 4: they each with a one shot at Vantage Fleetwood eight

1217
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 4: under fours round. He's in the clubhouse. McRoy still on course.

1218
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 4: He is six under for his round. In baseball, some finals,

1219
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 4: Reds dispatched the Cardinals eight to four, Marlin scored four

1220
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: runs in the ninth to knockoff the White Sox five

1221
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 4: to one, and the Diamondbacks shut out the Tigers five

1222
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 4: to nothing. Quickly run through the Game's currently going on

1223
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 4: twins over the Blue Jays eight to three and the

1224
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 4: ninth Padres three to two.

1225
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: On top of the Rockies.

1226
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 4: That one is in the eighth inning and heading to

1227
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 4: the sixth inning, Orioles four to one on top of

1228
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: the Royals, Dodgers needing a win. They've got a three

1229
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 4: to nothing lead on the Phillies in the sixth, Mets

1230
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 4: and Pirates tiny one in the six A's on top

1231
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 4: of the Brewers one zip in the fifth, Rangers leading

1232
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 4: the Raise six to four in the fifth inning. Finally

1233
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 4: Braves on top of the Nationals five to three. That

1234
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 4: one is in the sixth in Atlanta. Guys, back to you, Hi, Nick,

1235
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

1236
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: Once again, We're coming alive from the tai Iraq dot

1237
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: Com Studios by the way. Our NFL Fox Sports radio

1238
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: insider Adam Kaplan will join us coming up in our

1239
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: next hour. I wanted to ask you about a big

1240
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: story the NFL. Not unexpected. The Minnesota Vikings released Dalvin Cook. Now,

1241
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people you would say,

1242
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: all right, I get he's a running back. But this

1243
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: is a running back who will turn twenty eight in August.

1244
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 2: So as we sit here, he's still twenty seven years old.

1245
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: He's had four consecutive Pro Bowl seasons, and this past

1246
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: season he played every single game first time in his

1247
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: entire career, and I believe he had a separated shoulder

1248
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: early on in the season, yet he powered through that

1249
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: and played the entire year. Now he's got a big number,

1250
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: and the Vikings obviously feel that as great as he's been,

1251
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: his best days are behind him. So let's get a

1252
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: little sense here. If a team is looking for a

1253
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 2: quality back. By the way yards from scrimmage over the

1254
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: last four years, only one back has a higher average.

1255
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: That would be Derrick Henry. So let me ask you this,

1256
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: Should a team in search of enhancing the running game

1257
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 2: be looking to sign a guy like Dalvin Cook?

1258
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 3: Yes, they should be looking to sign Dalvin Cook. However,

1259
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook has to have real estate expectations over what

1260
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: the money is going to look like. You have a

1261
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 3: serve plus of backs on the streets here. Ellis still

1262
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: on the street, Kareem Hunt is still on the market,

1263
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: a handful of other guys.

1264
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson says he's still on the markets, like, yes,

1265
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: not twenty eight year old, thirty eight year old.

1266
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: He's still looking for one more shot at a little

1267
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 3: closure to his career. And so for Dalvin Cook and

1268
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 3: all these running backs, they just have to know that

1269
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: the money's not going to be what it once was.

1270
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: The paycheck that he got last year in Minnesota, he won't

1271
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 3: see that kind of paycheck. So what is he chasing?

1272
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 3: Is he chasing the money? Is he chasing the ring?

1273
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 3: If he's chasing the ring, then he has to make

1274
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 3: decisions based on which team is going to give me

1275
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 3: the best opportunity to see that come to fruition. There's

1276
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: a lot of conversation, a lot of buzz about Dalvin

1277
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 3: Cook end and up in Miami. Good situation for him,

1278
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 3: even though I would say it's very crowded in the backfield.

1279
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: Raheem Moster Jeff Wilson. They drafted to back a chain

1280
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: from Texas A and M. And then you add Cook.

1281
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if you could get enough carries. But

1282
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: he's at the house and so it'll be interesting. He

1283
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 3: does offer stuff. He's still at every down back and

1284
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 3: those things. The big thing is the money will not

1285
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 3: really equate to the production that he can't put up.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out now. I know how

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Speaker 2: this works. You bring in recruits right out of high school.

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Speaker 2: Most high school players, if you're one of your elite

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: high school players, will play both ways. It's not that

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Speaker 2: uncommon in high school. Whether you're a back or a lineman,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. You're gonna see action on both sides

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Speaker 2: of the ball. And then you're recruited as one thing,

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Speaker 2: and then you get to the college and maybe there's

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01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: a surplus at one position they decide to move you. Sometimes,

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Speaker 2: let's say you came in as a running back and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna move you to corn or something along those lines.

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Speaker 2: But if you are one of these super talented players

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Speaker 2: that has an NFL future, I'm not quite sure I

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Speaker 2: want to play running back, because, first of all, if

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Speaker 2: you're an elite running back. At the collegiate level, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a whole lot of touches. You're going to

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Speaker 2: carry or receive the ball up to thirty times a

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Speaker 2: game for an entire year, sometimes two years. You know,

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Speaker 2: My dear buddy Eric Dickerson said one of the great

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Speaker 2: advantages he had coming into the NFL is that he

1306
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: shared time at SMU with Craig James Pony Express. They

1307
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: literally alternated regardless of the situation in the game, they

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01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: just alternated series. So one series James would be the

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Speaker 2: feature back, then Eric would be the feature back. Hersha

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Speaker 2: Walker was at the same time carrying the ball forty

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Speaker 2: times a game at Georgia. You know, I'm just trying

1312
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Speaker 2: to figure out where we are going and true to

1313
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Speaker 2: the evolution of running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So the evolution of running back has made it where

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Speaker 3: if you are a running back, you have to be

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Speaker 3: able to impact the game as a receiver in some capacity,

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Speaker 3: whether that's on screens and checkdowns, whether that's running routes

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Speaker 3: out of the backfield, or being a pseudo slot receiver

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Speaker 3: in spread formations. You have to be able to not

1320
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Speaker 3: only become captain checkdown, but you have to be able

1321
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: to create problems and mismatches and dictate coverage and those

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Speaker 3: things on the perimeter. If you can find a running

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Speaker 3: back that can impact it as a runner, receiver and

1324
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Speaker 3: a blocker, that's someone that should go high. Because you

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Speaker 3: have so many art running backs by committees, because you

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 3: don't have like the one guy that said, hey, this

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Speaker 3: is this is I got this. I can do all

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Speaker 3: handle the three. Now, don't coach. You don't need another

1329
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Speaker 3: one for me. I'm good, I got it.

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Speaker 2: We're we're offensive coordinators in the NFL in terms of

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: game plan How much design is going into the running

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Speaker 2: game anymore? Because I remember the Denver Broncos. You remember

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,959
Speaker 2: with the emergence of Terrell Davis and then after his injuries,

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: they had this long run of otherwise anonymous backs rolling

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: up big yards zone blocking and they had the lightest

1336
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Speaker 2: offensive line, but they did things in scheming for their

1337
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Speaker 2: running game that it didn't really matter who they plugged

1338
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Speaker 2: in a running back, it was going to be successful.

1339
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Speaker 2: How much time is actually being spent game planning running

1340
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Speaker 2: games now around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So there is time spent on the running game, significant

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Speaker 3: time spent, and normally the run game coordinator is either

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Speaker 3: the running backs coach or the offensive line coach. Because

1344
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Speaker 3: they know what's going on in the trenches, they can

1345
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: make a handful of suggestions throughout the course of the week.

1346
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: In the game, here are the offensive plays that we

1347
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: need to get to. When it comes to like getting

1348
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: ready and prepping everybody and doing that. It's not all

1349
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 3: created equal because some of the player calls that you

1350
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 3: have our quarterbacks that only know the passing game. For instance,

1351
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: when I was with John Gruten and the Raders, this

1352
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 3: is early the first time he came ninety seven, ninety eight,

1353
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: ninety eight, ninety nine. Rather he was the head coach,

1354
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 3: play caller, Bill Callahan was the offense coordinator. John Gruden

1355
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: would call the plays. There'll be times within the game

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01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 3: he was like, Bill, give me a run. Bill Callahan

1357
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: would call the run. He would do it because he

1358
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 3: at the time maybe he didn't know the running game

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01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: and those things and some of the stuff that you've

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 3: seen from the Shanahan disciples. They don't know the running

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Speaker 3: game like he knows the running game, and so they

1362
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: can't do it because they don't know how to fix

1363
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 3: all the errors when things come up in games, and

1364
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: so it is harder to do. It is more effective

1365
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 3: when you have someone who is brilliant when it comes

1366
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Speaker 3: to designing the running game. But it's an underappreciated thing.

1367
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: When you look at the broncass you don't hear Troy Aikman.

1368
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 3: You don't hear guys, you don't hear a top analysis saying,

1369
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 3: oh man, what a great running man. Look at how

1370
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 3: they designed it. No, because everything is so about the

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01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 3: passing game and the quarterback. But a great run game,

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01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 3: coordinating run game designer can absolutely obliterate the lead because

1373
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: you can't do things in the ground.

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Speaker 2: All right, So what's uniform will Dalvin Cook be wearing

1375
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three? And are we any closer to

1376
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: a final destination for d hop? We got the latest.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harmin and Bucky Brooks.

1378
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Saturday, and we are

1379
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: live from the Tyraq dot Com studios. Coming a little

1380
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,799
Speaker 2: NFL news right now again. Adam Kaplan, our Fox Sports

1381
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: Radio NFL insider will be joining us coming up in

1382
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 2: the next hour. All right, let's finish up with this

1383
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook story now that he has been released by

1384
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: the Vikings. Give me a team or teams that a

1385
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 2: would be interested in Dalvin Cook and where he might

1386
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 2: be a good fit. And when I say a good fit,

1387
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean where he could actually make an impact for

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: a team.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think he's right there. Everyone is talked

1390
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 3: about it, the Miami Dolphins being a good fit. And

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 3: the reason why is of all the backs that they

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01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: have in the backfield, he is a true number one

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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: running back. He can do it as a runner, he

1394
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: can catch the ball out the backfield. He's been productive

1395
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 3: with four straight one thousand year old seasons. So in

1396
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 3: spite of all the nagging injuries or the questions about

1397
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 3: his do ability, he continues to show up and he

1398
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 3: shows out. The Miami Dolphins would be a perfect situation

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Speaker 3: for him.

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeaw, Mike McDaniel, who is a guy that you know

1401
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: from his pedigree with the forty nine ers, understands how

1402
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: to incorporate a running game as part of his offensive scheme.

1403
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 2: Let's get back to d hop and I was listening

1404
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: to the guys earlier.

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01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 8: T J.

1406
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: Huschman Zada was making some comments about this story that

1407
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins is going to be visiting the Patriots and

1408
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 2: He was very skeptical about that for a couple of reasons.

1409
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: He said, First of all, Bill O'Brien is now the

1410
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator again in New England. This is the same

1411
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien who is the head coach of the Houston

1412
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: Texans dumped d Hop at the height of his career.

1413
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 2: Uh TJ also mentioned the fact that d Hops not

1414
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: a guy that likes to practice all that much, sort

1415
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: of a one day a week guy. How does that

1416
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: fit with a guy like Belichick who doesn't seem to

1417
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: be a guy that's gonna, you know, change his rules

1418
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: for one player.

1419
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't fit. And if he's not going to be

1420
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 3: able to practice, he's not gonna be available. It's not

1421
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 3: gonna work for him.

1422
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 2: There, Okay, So he's making the trip, meaning they have

1423
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: interest in him, and obviously he's familiar with Bill O'Brien

1424
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: very much, so so there must be something. But I mean,

1425
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand sometimes people do things in order

1426
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: to secure a paycheck. If I'm gonna have to change

1427
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: my way to ensure that i still have employment in

1428
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: the NFL, But is he a guy that I mean,

1429
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 2: what kind of impact. Let's let's let's assume he will

1430
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: practice and he'll be back in the good graces with

1431
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien and all that's behind them. Is he going

1432
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: to make an impact on a team that's just trying

1433
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: to keep pace in a vastly improved division.

1434
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing about d'y hop. Diyp has been the

1435
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: same since he came out. He's not a blazer. He

1436
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 3: is what we call the jump ball specialist. He wins

1437
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty balls like no other receiver. Part of

1438
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 3: this is because he has an exceptional basketball background. Yeah,

1439
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 3: like you think about this in high school. Thousand points,

1440
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 3: maybe eight hundred rebounds, six hundred or sist. Yeah.

1441
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, in fact, he juschman Zada said, normally a fifty

1442
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: to fifty ball is a seventy thirty ball in his favor.

1443
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: Great hand, eye coordination, those things. The problem that you

1444
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 3: have with d Hop he can't run anymore, so he

1445
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 3: can't separate, so everything is a contested catch and up

1446
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: in New England. Yeah, they could, they could take advantage

1447
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: of his skills, because that's what Bill Belichick would do.

1448
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 3: But quarterback wise, Mac Jones, he and do have to

1449
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: be on the same page all the time.

1450
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: Well, they picked up guys before. Obviously, the Randy Moss

1451
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: situation was brilliant for a year, a couple of years,

1452
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: one incredible year. Ocho Senko not so much so. Knowing

1453
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: d Hobb, Yeah, I mean to me, he's your number

1454
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 2: one receiver though. See that was another question, is is

1455
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: he still a number one? Well the answer is it

1456
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: depends on what team he's on. But if he goes

1457
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: to New England, yeah, I mean he would be or

1458
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: potentially be that number one option for mac Jones.

1459
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, he would be the thing that you have

1460
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 3: to be leary of.

1461
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: One.

1462
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Speaker 3: We talked about the durability concerns too. We talked about

1463
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 3: his lack of availability when it comes to practice, so

1464
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: and then he can't build the chemistry and the rapport

1465
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 3: with the quarterback, and then it's just one. Is he

1466
01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: going to be compliant? Can he becase he had to

1467
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 3: door and live up to the Patriot Way all things

1468
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 3: that went wrong with Bill O'Brien and death stuff. Can

1469
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: he be a model citizen, a great teammate? Can he

1470
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 3: do more than just Paul outside of it? That's going

1471
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Speaker 3: to be the major trick.

1472
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Speaker 2: I wonder if Belichick still has the same clot though,

1473
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: and then they haven't won a playoff game since they

1474
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: won their last Super Bowl. They've had a dry run,

1475
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: to say the least. And in that division, they're the

1476
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: fourth best team in a fourteen division. Does anybody have

1477
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 2: him ranked ahead of the Jets, the Dolphins, of the Bills?

1478
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 3: No? But no, But do we really believe those teams

1479
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: to team, all those teams are going to play better

1480
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 3: than him?

1481
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, I do. To me, New England looks like

1482
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 2: a seven and ten team.

1483
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so disrespectful.

1484
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: What have you done for me lately? I'm sorry post

1485
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: Tom Brady period? How does it look? I got a

1486
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: call for what it is?

1487
01:19:59,080 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: Right?

1488
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 7: All right?

1489
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 2: Coming up in the next hour, we'll have much more

1490
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: NFL input, plus the latest on the NBA Finals.

1491
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 8: Keep it here.

1492
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1493
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,800
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1494
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1497
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hyped up once again on a big Saturday.

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Speaker 2: com the way tire buying should be. So Monday, Game

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Speaker 2: five of the NBA Finals, Nuggets at home, trying to

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Speaker 2: wrap up their first ever NBA championship. We were wondering

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Speaker 2: about seat prices. I know Nick came up with some numbers.

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Speaker 2: Somebody just sent me a sort of like a ticket

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Speaker 2: broker price tag on seats for the game tomorrow or

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Speaker 2: Monday in Denver over twelve hundred dollars a seat here

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Speaker 2: over twelve hundred and by the way, that's in the

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Speaker 2: three hundred section. So that sets up. So if that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's high and you're paying twelve hundred dollars per seat.

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Speaker 2: So I know one thing, if I were to invest

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Speaker 2: in that kind of money, they better win that game.

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Speaker 2: They better win that game, and there's certainly no guarantee

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Speaker 2: of that. Also, we're talking a little bit earlier about

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Speaker 2: the fallout from this live golf takeover essentially of the

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Speaker 2: golf world, not just the PGA Tour, really the entire

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Speaker 2: golf world. Based on money alone, they just have more money,

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Speaker 2: and everybody else, even you know Monahan, the commission of

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Speaker 2: the PGA said, we don't have the money to battle

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Speaker 2: them in court. Took fifty million out one hundred million.

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Speaker 2: They got six hundred billion. We can't compete with them,

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Speaker 2: so we have to wave the white flag and surrender

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Speaker 2: to them. And I brought up, well, if they could

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Speaker 2: do it with golf, maybe golf was just a trial run.

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Speaker 2: I got this on a Twitter account. Somebody said the

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Speaker 2: problem Cannon Hartman. By the way, if you want to

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Speaker 2: fall on Twitter at Cannon Hartman with your premises, golf

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Speaker 2: has individuals as opposed to seventy players on a college

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Speaker 2: football team when it comes to nil. And now you

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Speaker 2: have the collectives who are influencing, where the top one

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Speaker 2: to five percent players are choosing to go. All right,

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Speaker 2: but let's think about this in golf. How many golfers

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Speaker 2: move the needle? Really one? His name is Tiger Woods. One.

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Speaker 2: Did you pay one hundred million dollars or Brison to Shambo?

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Speaker 2: How many added eyeballs to a golf tournament. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the live tour has no eyeballs, They have no ratings.

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Speaker 2: No one's watching these live golf tournaments. Now, if they

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01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: had gotten Tiger Woods, they would, but they didn't. But

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Speaker 2: if you were to say, in college football, how many

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Speaker 2: brands get eyeballs? Alabama gets eyeballs, Ohio State gets eyeballs?

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Speaker 2: How many college football programs do you believe are of

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Speaker 2: a stature where there must watch programs?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Not many?

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Speaker 2: So I mentioned Alabama, will you say yes?

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Speaker 3: Ohio State, Alabama, Ohio State, USC USC would be in

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Speaker 3: there is Clemson there, yes, because they won those titles. Michigan, Michigan,

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Speaker 3: and we are talking about Hio State, Texas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I understand how these collectives operate, right, That's

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Speaker 2: basically where you know, you have the boosters whoever are

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Speaker 2: sort of building up the coffers of these collectives so

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Speaker 2: that you have more money to spread around, not only

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Speaker 2: in recruiting players but also in the transfer of players.

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Speaker 2: So what's to prevent a phone call to Nick Saban saying,

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Speaker 2: how would you like a lot more money in your collective?

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Speaker 2: We can make that possible. And what that actually means

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Speaker 2: for the program? I mean it only would make Like

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Speaker 2: I said, I wouldn't even call Alabama, right, Like like golf,

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Speaker 2: why golf?

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Speaker 3: Golf?

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Speaker 2: I mean, when again, there's only one player one that

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Speaker 2: moves the needle. Rory McElroy doesn't move the needle. No,

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Speaker 2: Tiger is the only golfer probably ever there actually moved

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Speaker 2: the needle. But in college football, you could create a

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Speaker 2: power seemingly overnight if somebody put enough money in the coffer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yes, now you gott to coach him

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01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,839
Speaker 3: up in all that, yes, but you absolutely can assemble

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Speaker 3: enough talent to create problems. And if it did, pack

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Speaker 3: is a deep enough you certainly can do it. And

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Speaker 3: if you can do it in football, we have seen

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Speaker 3: them do it in basketball because people talked about Miami

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Speaker 3: and the Hurricanes and those things. So yes, uh, we

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Speaker 3: could be unlocking and opening Pandora's box here.

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Speaker 2: Surely, Oh it's already open. It's are open. I mean,

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Speaker 2: when we think about the last couple of years of name,

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Speaker 2: image and likeness, we hear numbers. Do we have any

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Speaker 2: documented numbers on actually how much? I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to throw a number out at you. But Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams when he transferred from you Oklahoma to USC and

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Speaker 2: you know, people are saying, well, he's following his coach, right,

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. By the way, we don't know exactly everything

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley got either. You know, he has a really

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Speaker 2: big house, big old house, big old house, on top

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Speaker 2: of everything else. Plus they sold two houses he had

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma. They made they gave, they gave him money

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Speaker 2: that was like ten times over face.

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Speaker 7: Value for those houses on top of everything else.

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Speaker 2: But the numbers I've heard from Caleb Williams that are

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Speaker 2: publicly stated are far short of actually how much money

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is making. It usc not even close. Now

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Speaker 2: he justified it by winning a Heisman Trophy. But when

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Speaker 2: you make the argument of why is Caleb Williams even

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Speaker 2: playing this year? Why would he even play this year?

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Speaker 2: If he would sit out this entire year, would that

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Speaker 2: hurt his draft status?

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Speaker 3: Theoretically, no, no, it wouldn't because we could use the

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Speaker 3: same example that we use with Tree Tree Lance. His

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Speaker 3: Tree Lance only played one game his final.

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Speaker 2: Season, right, remember Nick Bosa's last year to Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Did that hurt his drafts? Yeah? Never heard his draft status?

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Speaker 2: Did David Clowney? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean he showed up, he didn't play though he

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Speaker 3: showed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wasn't the player that he had been

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Speaker 2: the year before. It wasn't remind me again, where'd you

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Speaker 2: go in the draft? Number one? So why would he play? Wow,

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Speaker 2: he might play because he's getting paid to play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The Kayla Williams thing is interesting because they're saying

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Speaker 3: there have been people talked about Kayla Williams could look

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Speaker 3: and assess the NFL and figure out who's the number

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Speaker 3: one and maybe because of the collective and the money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, if he says, you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not in a rush, didn't necessarily come out.

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Speaker 2: Well, and let me ask you this, if if you

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Speaker 2: were Caleb Williams in Arizona, you know, doing this dumpster

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Speaker 2: situation in order to somehow give themselves a real shot

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Speaker 2: at the number one overall pick. If you were Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: You're coming out of USC. Who knows, maybe you got

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Speaker 2: a second Heisman Trophy on your mantle?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to.

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Speaker 2: Play for the Arizona Cardinals organization you're gonna stick around

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Speaker 2: for I can't even imagine how much money he would

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Speaker 2: get it for another year at USC. But if you

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Speaker 2: had another fabulous here, believe me, I had plenty of

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Speaker 2: money staying out of the year, roll the dice on

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Speaker 2: a different team, have you my number one choice the

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Speaker 2: following year.

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Speaker 3: That would be the thing. We haven't seen anybody really

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Speaker 3: take the number one team to task since Eli Manning,

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Speaker 3: and that would be kind of a big I mean,

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01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 3: that's a big joker play if you do that. But

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Speaker 3: we're going to see a day where it does become

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Speaker 3: a thing where I think it's already there. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I think I'll go back.

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Speaker 2: Let me, let me, let me give you an example.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, Nick, you have

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Speaker 2: a little insight on the den Bona situation as well

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Speaker 2: at U C. L A. So, den Bona is this

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Speaker 2: big guy. He was the freshman of the Year in

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. He had some injuries at the end

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01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: of the year, so we didn't to see a lot

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Speaker 2: of them in the tournament. But he is an extremely

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01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: athletic big man who's already shown NBA level prowess on

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01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: the defensive end. So he put his name out there

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01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 2: and I saw some draft boards saying you'd be a

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Speaker 2: second round pick if somebody rolled the dice.

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Speaker 7: I think he actually would have gone higher than that,

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Speaker 7: to be honest with you, But then he.

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Speaker 2: Announced this is return to UCLA, and I kept telling everybody,

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Speaker 2: they'll say goodbye to Jalen Clark. The one guy they're

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01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: going to do everything they can do to try to

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Speaker 2: keep them at UCLA is Bona and apparently they found

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01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: the right price. Tech you got anything to add to

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01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: that name? Can we turn Nicks mic on guys, so

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01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 2: I can hear Nick, thank you very much. I was

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Speaker 2: gonna say.

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Speaker 4: Also, the other thing that I think also worked in

1658
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 4: UCLA's favor is that Bona had the shoulder injury that

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01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 4: came up late in the season, so he wasn't able

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Speaker 4: to properly work out for teams either during that whole

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Speaker 4: pre draft process, so that also helped UCLA. But yes,

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Speaker 4: that is the talk behind the scenes that there was

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Speaker 4: some nil deal involved as well.

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Speaker 2: Which is perfectly legal. And more and more of this

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01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: is going to happen. There's no question about this. People

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01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: are saying, well, is this good or bad? If you're

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Speaker 2: a college sports fan, it's great because you're gonna I

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01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 2: have guys stay longer. That's the frustration for a lot

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01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 2: of college football college basketball fans is you get to

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01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 2: know a guy, then boom, he's gone, because he's gonna

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Speaker 2: go for the big money. Now he can make even

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Speaker 2: bigger money on some circumstances, stay in college and going

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Speaker 2: to the pro level.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we're going to get back to

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01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 2: NFL news. They're practicing right now. This is about it

1677
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: for the OTAs, mini camps and everything else. What's the latest?

1678
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: Our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan will give

1679
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: us the latest. Coming up next Steve Hartman and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming live from the

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Speaker 2: Tirak dot com studios. Well, it is that time once again,

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01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: once again, so gracious to join us here every Saturday,

1683
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 2: give us his insight on something he knows better than

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01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: just about everybody else, talking about the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan is here

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01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 2: once again. So Adam, we have a number of stores

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01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 2: where he said have emerged out of the league. Let's

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01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 2: start with the release of Dalvin Cook, something we knew

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01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 2: was going to happen if they couldn't get a deal done.

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Speaker 2: Four straight Pro Bowl seasons. He'll turn twenty eight in August. Obviously,

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01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: there is some tread left on the tire. The question

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01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 2: is where can he be utilized. Is he going to

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01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 2: be a dolphin or could another team jump in there

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01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 2: and get themselves a pretty good running back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, guy, it's going to be with you. Yes.

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Speaker 9: So let me just kind of explain what happened here,

1697
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 9: because there's everybody knew he was going to be cut.

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Speaker 9: They weren't going to be They tried to trade him

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01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 9: for weeks and it just didn't happen. But what they

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01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 9: wanted to is they actually wanted to keep Cook but

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01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 9: at a reduced salary, and he was unwilling to take

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01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 9: a pay cut.

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Speaker 8: Now he's going to lose nine million. They owed him

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Speaker 8: two million.

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01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 9: I was ten point four million dollar salary, so he'll

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01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 9: get that, but he's going to want to make up

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Speaker 9: that nine million. So what's going to happen is that's

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Speaker 9: going to eliminate him from some teams that might have

1709
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 9: interest that. They're just not a lot of teams talking

1710
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 9: to various people an the league, they're not a lot

1711
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 9: of teams looking for starting running back except for a

1712
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 9: couple teams that know that they're going to go they're

1713
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 9: going to be good and they don't have that guy

1714
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 9: who could be their belcow back. So that brings us

1715
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 9: to the Dolphins. I'm till both teams talked. I don't

1716
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 9: know if it's five times, ten times, three times, but

1717
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 9: I know they talked over a series of weeks and

1718
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 9: the Dolphins were not going to pay him nine million.

1719
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 9: That's why there was no trade there they and the

1720
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 9: real story here in addition to this is every team

1721
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 9: knew that he was not gonna take a paycut. He

1722
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 9: was going to be released, so why not let him

1723
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 9: get released and have leverage. So the bottom line is

1724
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 9: when you look at the Dolphins situation, they've got a

1725
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 9: lot of running backs. Depth is not an issue. Jeff Wilson,

1726
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 9: the former forty nine er, is going to be their

1727
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 9: starter right now, He's only making three million of the season.

1728
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 9: Cook is way better. Now, what kind of contract could

1729
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 9: Cook get with Miami Denver? I don't buy the Jets

1730
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 9: and I don't buy the Cowboys, but I know that's

1731
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 9: out there, But from what I understand, I don't see

1732
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 9: it happening. Bark something highly unforeseen. So what kind of

1733
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 9: contract could he get? The highest paid free to running

1734
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 9: back this year Miles Sanders, former Eagle North Carolina six

1735
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 9: point three five million a year, So the most still

1736
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 9: get is around six million per season. But what he'll

1737
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 9: be looking for, guys, is getting fully guaranteed money in

1738
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 9: that second year because, as you said, Steve, he turns

1739
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 9: twenty eight in August, which means he's twenty eight in

1740
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 9: NFL years. Yes, he had his first full season of

1741
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 9: his career, seventeen games. He played in all of them,

1742
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 9: but he had to have shoulder surgery and it sealed,

1743
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 9: does to understand, So I don't see him getting more

1744
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 9: than six million.

1745
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 8: That's where I see that contract going.

1746
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 3: Man, it's such a crazy time with these running backs

1747
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 3: and this stuff. So, in staying on the running back theme,

1748
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 3: does Ezekiel Elliott end up back in Dallas in at

1749
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 3: what price?

1750
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 9: I would say, Bucky, the odds were slim to none

1751
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 9: about a month ago.

1752
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 8: But if you really look at their situation.

1753
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 9: Tony Polar's coming off a broken leg, they did not

1754
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 9: They addressed the running back position, but they drafted Kidduce Vaughan, who's.

1755
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 8: A kid out of Kansas State. Is really small.

1756
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 9: He's under five to six. He can't be the number

1757
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 9: two running back. They signed Ronald Jones, suit didn't work

1758
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 9: out with the Chiefs last year. He was enacted for

1759
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 9: a bunch. You can't depend on him. So what Jerry

1760
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 9: Jones said, this is also what I've heard, like they

1761
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 9: basically Jerry Jones said, he's left the door open. I'll

1762
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 9: take this further step if Zeke's wanting to take a

1763
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 9: undervalue deal.

1764
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 8: I think this is actually what happened. Now we're in June.

1765
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 9: Now, clubs have a leverage Bucky as you know, form

1766
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 9: beautful NFL guy. So the Cowboys could just you know,

1767
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 9: look and say, hey, we'll pay a three million with

1768
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 9: upside if you have to play locas Tony's hurt, y're

1769
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 9: not doing well, maybe you give him upside six million.

1770
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 9: But they also are looking extensions for Pollar, potentially off

1771
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 9: the franchise, Tag, Dak Prescott and a couple other players.

1772
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 9: So they're just not going to invest any more money

1773
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 9: in that. And remember Paula's going to make over ten

1774
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:46,480
Speaker 9: million this season.

1775
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 2: All right. I have a quote from Aaron Rodgers. The

1776
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 2: last six weeks have been the most fun I've had

1777
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 2: in a while. OTA's are over. He was there for

1778
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 2: the entire Ota duration. Of course, missed a couple of

1779
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: practices with that calf injury. He's glowing right now. I mean,

1780
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, he threw a past the Garrett Wilson. He's like,

1781
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,839
Speaker 2: this kid is going to be a superstar, Sauce Gardner.

1782
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean he at least hourly. Aaron Rodgers is euphoric

1783
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 2: about being in a Jets uniform. How is that going

1784
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 2: to actually translate on the field once he come back

1785
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 2: to real games in the fall.

1786
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 8: Steve pretty good.

1787
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 9: So I think what happened here is because he didn't

1788
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 9: feel wanted by the Packers, and the Jets really want him.

1789
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 9: It was Joe Douglas, the GM's idea. I'm told, uh

1790
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 9: not that the owner didn't sign off. Woody Johnson loved

1791
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 9: the idea. He had to sign off because he signs

1792
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 9: a contrary. He signs the signs over the money to

1793
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 9: pay these players. So it's he loves that he's wanted

1794
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 9: and they're happy to have him. And the word that

1795
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 9: I've gotten just when you're and you know that Steve

1796
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 9: working for the Raiders, when you're around special players, it

1797
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 9: might have been how he long for you or some

1798
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 9: other guys during your time with the Raiders, which is

1799
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 9: something about them that makes him unique. And they have

1800
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 9: a they have a evyp guy, right a super Bowl winner. Yeah,

1801
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 9: back to back MVP awards. Now he's thirty nine. They're

1802
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 9: not only expecting the playoffs, they're they're not talking super Bowl.

1803
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 9: They're expecting to be a very good football team. I

1804
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 9: just know I from talking to people there. He's got

1805
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 9: that presence about him. He doesn't even have to practice,

1806
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 9: just knowing this guy's in the building. I think that's

1807
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 9: that's something that rubs off to the players and the coaches.

1808
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 3: I'm sure it absolutely does rub off on that, Adam.

1809
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 3: You always have your ear to the street, and the

1810
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 3: offseason is a great opportunity to hear about the hype bunnies,

1811
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 3: the guys who get all the hype based on what

1812
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 3: has been going on. Who's someone that we should be

1813
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 3: keeping our eye on as we head into training camp,

1814
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 3: someone that you fin.

1815
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 9: I would to say, Yeah, I want to say Garrett Wilson,

1816
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 9: who was the offensive Rookie of the Year last year

1817
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 9: and Britsaw probably would have won it. And by the way,

1818
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 9: I'm told he's the ACL reconstruction what really well, in fact,

1819
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 9: he's a head of he's actually pretty well ahead of schedule.

1820
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 9: He's going to be ready for training camp. Now, how

1821
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 9: much they let him practice remains to be seeing. So

1822
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 9: Garrett Wilson's a guy that I know the Jets field,

1823
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 9: and you heard Aaron Rodgers talking about him. I think

1824
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 9: I think that's going to be fun to see, and

1825
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 9: in Tennessee it's interest. So I was told by a

1826
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 9: pretty good source with the Titans that it's not that

1827
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 9: they're going to go away from Derrick Henry, but Mike

1828
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 9: Rabel wants they want to push this thing Ford. They're

1829
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 9: not all of a sudden with Derek Henry on the

1830
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 9: final vers.

1831
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 8: Deal is still going to be. They're not gonna like

1832
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 8: be passing team.

1833
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 9: But Rabel, as he explained to me that he told

1834
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 9: us coaches, look, we want to move this thing forward.

1835
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 9: We want we know what's going around the league and

1836
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 9: passing and so forth. I believe that blocking scheme might

1837
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 9: change a little bit. I think the're gonna be a

1838
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 9: little bit more Ford thinking, and Henry almost certainly won't

1839
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 9: be back in twenty four, so this thing at all,

1840
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 9: they don't really have enough talent around Ryan Tannehill and

1841
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,560
Speaker 9: Will Levis. I think you're going to see sort of

1842
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 9: a sea change here. I can't give you attempts per

1843
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 9: game for Ryan Tannehill. But you may see a little

1844
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 9: bit of difference here with Tim Kelly, who, by the way,

1845
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 9: worked with DeAndre Hopkins, who's going to visit the Titans

1846
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 9: next week.

1847
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's also visiting the Patriots. I mean, we're talking

1848
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 2: about this AFC East right now, and you got a

1849
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 2: euphoric Aaron Rodgers with the Jets, and you mentioned that

1850
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook may be added to a pretty rich roster

1851
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 2: offensively for the Dolphins. The Bills are the Bills, and

1852
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 2: then you have the Patriots. And I'm just trying to

1853
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: figure out this whole d Hop dynamic with Bill O'Brien,

1854
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 2: who dumped him at the peak of his career when

1855
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 2: he was running the you know, the situation down in Houston.

1856
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 2: The fact that d Hop is notoriously not a big

1857
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 2: practice guy, maybe a one day a week guy. Doesn't

1858
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 2: really sound like a Belichick guy. So how serious are

1859
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots in wanting to acquire a guy like d

1860
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: Hop at this point of his career. Are they at

1861
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 2: the point where maybe Bill O'Brien says to Bill Belichick, Look,

1862
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: this guy can really help us, and if we need

1863
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 2: to change a few things in order to get him

1864
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 2: it's going to be worth it. How receptive would Belichick be?

1865
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 8: It's his call, he went, he made this decision. This

1866
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 8: is what Bill does.

1867
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 9: There are players that he likes around the league. Randy Moss,

1868
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 9: he nailed that one. It didn't work out with Chad

1869
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 9: Johnson at all. Love Chad, it just didn't work out.

1870
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 9: Bill has a list of players that he really likes

1871
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 9: offensive defense. I'm not just going to see offense, but

1872
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 9: defense over the years, and he brings them in and

1873
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 9: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Now here's let's go

1874
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 9: inside the situation on my reporting on this, so I

1875
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 9: believe what they want to do.

1876
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 8: They were married to the two tight end.

1877
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 9: System because they paid more to two tight ends over

1878
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 9: three year period than any team did over that time period.

1879
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 9: It was Hunter Henry's kind of worked out. But it

1880
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 9: did not work out at all with Johnah Smith was traded.

1881
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 9: Those guys are making twenty five million a year combine

1882
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 9: a year over a two year period. That was ridiculous.

1883
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 9: Didn't work basically what I was told. I think Bill

1884
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 9: wants to go back to eleven personnel, which is three receivers.

1885
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 9: Devonte Parker, who is another Bill favorite from the Dolphins,

1886
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 9: same division. Parker's going to make over six million the season.

1887
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 9: Judu Smith Schuster it's going to make ten million this

1888
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 9: season in cash and salary and signing bonus. And Kendrick Bourne,

1889
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 9: who did not play well last year, will make over

1890
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 9: five million this season. So to me, if you get

1891
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 9: Hopkins in, you could be heavy eleven personnel. And that's

1892
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 9: why he's doing this. And if this happens, I don't

1893
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 9: see Kennick Bourne coming back or if at all, Borne

1894
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 9: would have to take a pay cup. But this is

1895
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 9: another guy that Belichick likes at Hopkins.

1896
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 3: Adam what's going on with the Washington Commanders and Chase

1897
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 3: Young like he didn't get a fifth year option and

1898
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 3: those things. What's happening around the big time player?

1899
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 9: I mean, it's I know there's a story out there

1900
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 9: that maybe there's another team involved that might want to

1901
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 9: trade for him. Look, he's never been the same since

1902
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 9: the ACL injury. It was obviously you know it's a

1903
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 9: bad injury. But you know, if you remember guys before

1904
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 9: he got hurt, their front four of sweat paying Allan

1905
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 9: and Young though all first round picks extremely talented, were

1906
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 9: kind of unachieving, and then pain and Allen kind of

1907
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 9: took over. Young did not play well before his ACL injury,

1908
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 9: and montes what's been up and down. They have an

1909
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 9: extended his contract yet, but they extended all pains and

1910
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 9: Allen's pains A really good football player. Chase is unachieved.

1911
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 9: He Chase Young has just been hurt. He's not been

1912
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 9: the player they thought. I remember talking to leading up

1913
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 9: to the draft when they took him second overall in

1914
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,799
Speaker 9: twenty twenty. I was talking to someone in their personnel

1915
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 9: department said, Oh, he's the real deal.

1916
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 8: He goes. I don't know who.

1917
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 9: I don't know who you talked around the league, but

1918
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 9: this guy's special, and I don't doubt it. Sometimes guys

1919
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Speaker 9: just don't for whatever reason. Buck you know, from being

1920
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 9: a scouting they just don't become the players that you

1921
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 9: thought they would. I have no problem with the with

1922
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 9: Washington draft them at second overall in twenty twenty.

1923
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 8: This is just one that they missed on. I mean,

1924
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Speaker 8: that's the bottom line.

1925
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Speaker 3: All right.

1926
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Speaker 2: So if there's any down period in the NFL, which

1927
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,839
Speaker 2: there really isn't, but now sort of the time, Adam,

1928
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 2: you know, you a little bit of a rest. But

1929
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Speaker 2: before we get training camps underway. How does this change

1930
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Speaker 2: your dynamic, if at all?

1931
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Speaker 8: So what happens next week?

1932
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Speaker 9: All the camps are done by next Thursday or Friday,

1933
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 9: and then everyone's off to late you except for the

1934
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Speaker 9: teams that are in the Hall of Fame game. I

1935
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 9: know the Jets by the way, they drop their mandatory

1936
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 9: camp next week because they're in the Hall of Fame game.

1937
01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna be doing a couple of different things

1938
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 9: here getting ready for the season.

1939
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 8: I might have a little gig that's added.

1940
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 9: To my repertoire of jobs, like I need more, but

1941
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 9: uh no, I get ready and then at what I

1942
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 9: do is once the teams started announcing their when they open,

1943
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 9: and particularly how which teams are going to practice with,

1944
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 9: because it's always great to go to a training camp, Steve,

1945
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 9: you and I talked about this when the Raiders would

1946
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 9: practiced with other teams. So I remember seeing the Raiders

1947
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 9: in Niners practice for years until Al Davis decided it

1948
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 9: wasn't gonna work anymore going to a fight.

1949
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Speaker 8: And that's another story for another time.

1950
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Speaker 9: I think Steve, I might have told you off there

1951
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 9: while that isn't But I love this, so I make

1952
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 9: my training game tour based on who's going to be

1953
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 9: working with each other. I don't go to a lot

1954
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 9: of camps or it's just one team. I'd like to

1955
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 9: see those joint practices. And by the way, that is major.

1956
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 9: That's the biggest thing in the NFL. Now, look, you

1957
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 9: got one less preseason game. Yeah, and teams they love Bucky,

1958
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 9: I know you know this. They love these joint practice

1959
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 9: because they're they're controlled and you could work on whatever

1960
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:55,799
Speaker 9: you want and I really enjoy.

1961
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 2: Them, honestly. And we were talking about and this is

1962
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 2: this is the wave of the future because you know,

1963
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 2: once they get to an eighteen game schedule, it's going

1964
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 2: to be spread over twenty weeks. That's going to end

1965
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: the preseason and they're going to have these, uh, you know,

1966
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 2: control practices like you say, we're working specifically on this. Great,

1967
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,719
Speaker 2: this is what we need to work on. And honestly,

1968
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 2: I think they get a lot more out of that

1969
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 2: than any kind of preseason game. Adam, you're the best

1970
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 2: of the best. We'd love to continue to talk to

1971
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 2: you throughout this so yeah, for sure, So we have

1972
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 2: plenty to catch up on. Well, talking next week that Adam,

1973
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Speaker 2: thanks so much.

1974
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Speaker 8: Sounds good.

1975
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 2: That's Adam Kaplan join us. There are Fox Sports Radio,

1976
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 2: NFL Insider, and again Buggy, I think he's right. Uh,

1977
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 2: and we're rich and I were actually talking about this

1978
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 2: last Sunday. Uh. These controlled team practices between teams. I

1979
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 2: just imagine from a coaching standpoint, when you have specific

1980
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:49,520
Speaker 2: things you want to work with, with a specific personnel set,

1981
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 2: you would get a lot more out of that than

1982
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 2: you would in a preseason game.

1983
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the reason why is so popular is because

1984
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 3: anytime you change the dynamic and practicing and bringing opponent,

1985
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 3: the energy and the intensity goes up. But because it's

1986
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 3: practicing not a game, you can protect a quarterback and

1987
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 3: so you get the benefits of basically playing in a

1988
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 3: preseason game without putting your quarterback in harm's way. That's

1989
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 3: why you're seeing so many of the teams want to

1990
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 3: do that, because you get the quality work without having

1991
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 3: that exposure to your QB.

1992
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 2: One every time. And it's inevitable in every preseason game

1993
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,560
Speaker 2: you see somebody go down with an injury and they're like, why,

1994
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 2: why was this necessary? I'm sorry, Bucky. When you played

1995
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 2: high school ball, how many preseason games did you have?

1996
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 3: We you know, we had little jamboree and stuff like.

1997
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 2: That, jamborees. I'm in college. Did you have preseason games?

1998
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 3: No, but it would be better in college if they

1999
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 3: had a little.

2000
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 2: Pres And let's get right in make the games count

2001
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 2: the way I look at it. Let's find out what's

2002
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: trending right now as Nick Kpe is back. And I

2003
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 2: know you're not a fan of preseason football. No, It's funny.

2004
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 4: I feel like every time the Hall of Fame game

2005
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 4: comes around, it's always a sighting because okay, football's bag.

2006
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 4: You sit down and then you watch for five minutes

2007
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 4: and you're like, yeah, I'll go do something else.

2008
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 2: That's literally half the guys that appear in that game

2009
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 2: you will never ever see again. That's correct. So, I mean,

2010
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Speaker 2: what exactly is the point? Makes no sense.

2011
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 4: It just gets everybody excited. It's a one month countdown,

2012
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 4: give or take from.

2013
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Makes me excited because you know, I'm

2014
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame junkie. Yes, but the game itself,

2015
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time I actually watched the

2016
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game. Yeah, except for the yeah, unless

2017
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 2: they introduced the Hall of Famers at the game. Yes,

2018
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: the yeah, the pregame ceremonies. I'm really good. Got some finals.

2019
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 4: In baseball, the Twins got to go ahead Grand Slam

2020
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 4: from Carlos Corea to beat the Blue Jays nine to four,

2021
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 4: p Andres over the Rockies three to two. That's three

2022
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 4: in a row for San Diego Red Dispatch the Cardinals

2023
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 4: eight to four. Marlin's had a big ninth inning to

2024
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 4: knock off the White Sox five to one. Miami has

2025
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 4: now won seven of eight and the Diamondbacks shut out

2026
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 4: the Tigers five zip Arizona first place in the NS.

2027
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 4: They have won of twelve. In golf, The Wall Street

2028
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 4: Journal reporting PGA commissioner Jay Monahan told PGA employees the

2029
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 4: reason for the merger with Live Golf is because the

2030
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 4: tour could not financially afford to continue fighting legal battles

2031
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 4: against the Saudi Public Investment Fund on the course. Today,

2032
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 4: third round of the Canadian Open is winding down lot

2033
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 4: of low scores. Roy McRoy in the clubhouse with part

2034
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 4: of a five way tie for first place after he

2035
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 4: shot a sixty six in the NBA. The final head

2036
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 4: coaching vacancy has been filled, multiple reports saying the Raptors

2037
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 4: are hiring Grizzly's assistant Darko Radjakovic, Serbia native has spent

2038
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 4: the last ten years as an NBA assistant. Champions League Final,

2039
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 4: Manchester City defeating Inter Milan one nil. They become the

2040
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 4: tenth team to complete the European Treble. Coming up, we've

2041
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 4: got Game four of the Stanley Cup Final tonight in Florida.

2042
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 4: Golden Knights have a two to one series lead on

2043
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 4: the Panthers, and then about thirty minutes from now on Fox,

2044
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 4: it'll be the Belmont Stakes.

2045
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 2: Guys. Back to you, all right, Nick, thank you very much.

2046
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 2: Once again, we're coming live from the ti iraq dot

2047
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Speaker 2: com studios. Okay, are you a fan of Hard Knocks?

2048
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 3: I am a fan. I like the behind the scenes

2049
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 3: stuff kind of takes projected to that dark place, or

2050
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 3: you just don't know.

2051
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 2: Well, right now, they got a problem. So they only

2052
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:16,600
Speaker 2: have four teams that are actually eligible, and three of

2053
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 2: the four teams have said we're not interested. Okay, So

2054
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 2: the Jets, who obviously would be the most desirable team,

2055
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 2: the Saints and the Bears have said no. That leaves

2056
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 2: the Commanders, and honestly, the Commanders are a little tricky

2057
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 2: with the new ownership and everything else. If you ignored that,

2058
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 2: that could be a problem and try to sell them.

2059
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 2: So let's say, let's say you go to the Jets

2060
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: and they're like, we're not.

2061
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 3: Interested, and you're like, somebody has to be compelled to

2062
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 3: say yes.

2063
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna make you say yes, Jets. All right, well,

2064
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 2: then you're gonna have to give us something. I mean,

2065
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's I mean, how if you were

2066
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 2: the Jets and somehow you came up to some agreement

2067
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 2: with hard Knocks. What are you showing? I mean, obviously

2068
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 2: I want to I want to watch Aaron Rodgers every move.

2069
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're showing the basics. You don't really

2070
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 3: get a chance to see much. So you put it

2071
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 3: around storyline. So the main storyline will be Aaron Rodgers

2072
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 3: and what he brings to the team and the table,

2073
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 3: and so you'll show the many different ways that he

2074
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 3: has impacted the squad. You'll pick a rookie or two

2075
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 3: that's on the bubble to follow and see if you

2076
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 3: can do that. You have a storyline. Quinnin Williams has

2077
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 3: not signed it got a contract extension, so you can

2078
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 3: follow that. It does he show up, does he not

2079
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,759
Speaker 3: show up? The ying and Yang going back there, Breese

2080
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 3: all coming off the injury. So you have enough to

2081
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 3: do the thing that I would worry about if I'm

2082
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 3: the Jets. Can my coaches handle all the chaos that

2083
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 3: ensues when the cameras are around? Meaning can they focus in,

2084
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 3: lock in and do the things did they need to

2085
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 3: do to get the team ready with all of this

2086
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 3: other stuff?

2087
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 2: Well, to me, when when I think back of the

2088
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 2: many years of Hard Knocks, the person that makes Hard

2089
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 2: Knocks as the coach. I actually went to Courtland when

2090
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 2: the Jets were on the last time when Rex Ryan

2091
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 2: was the coach of the team, and Rex was that

2092
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 2: kind of personality where you know he and obviously Dan

2093
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 2: Campbell did the same thing for the Lions. I mean

2094
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 2: he almost breathed new life in Hard Knocks because of

2095
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 2: his personality. I don't know, if you're Robert Sala, how

2096
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: would you how would you handle it?

2097
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 3: If you're Robert Solid what you have to do is

2098
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,959
Speaker 3: you have to be on board. They do have editorial

2099
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 3: control so they can kind of edit out those things,

2100
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 3: but you have to be authentic because here's the thing

2101
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 3: that you can't do and your players are snuff it out.

2102
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 3: If they feel like you're playing through the cameras, then

2103
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 3: you get a lot of rolled eyes in the background,

2104
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 3: so you see the team meaning everyone was like, oh

2105
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 3: my god, here he goes. He doesn't even talk this

2106
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 3: much in normal time. We got the cameras on and

2107
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 3: he's different, and so you have to coach your coaches on.

2108
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 3: You got to be yourself. You got to be authentic.

2109
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 3: However you get down in your meeting room, continue to

2110
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 3: do that. What they're doing is their thing. We need

2111
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 3: to make sure we're getting the team ready.

2112
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 2: Remember when the Rams made the move to LA and

2113
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 2: they had the Rams on, Yeah, you know, and Jeff Fisher,

2114
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 2: my high school buddy, I thought he overplayed it.

2115
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 3: You overplayed I think also the thing with that, that

2116
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 3: impression of Jerry Goff, that first impression on hard Knocks,

2117
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 3: I think it ruined him for a while because then

2118
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 3: there was all the conversation when Sean McVay came and

2119
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 3: he played better, but Sean McVay had the he was

2120
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,799
Speaker 3: taken advantage of the headset and the mic, and they're

2121
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 3: basically saying that Jerry Goff was a joystick for Sean McVay,

2122
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 3: and so because he didn't come off in the best

2123
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 3: light in Hard Knocks, it has impacted the way people

2124
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 3: view him as a quarterback.

2125
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 2: I ever tell you my introduction to Sean McVay before

2126
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:58,919
Speaker 2: his first season as the head coach of the Rams.

2127
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 2: So I had a friend of mine, you know, he

2128
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 2: had just been hired by the Rams, and he's sort

2129
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 2: of doing the rounds, you know, speaking at we'll get

2130
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 2: together as you know, trying to sell you know, the

2131
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 2: Rams were just awful the year before, and Goff had

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Speaker 2: been zero to seven as a starting quarterback as a rookie,

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Speaker 2: and so I got a chance to do a one

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Speaker 2: on one with him, you know, just the two of us,

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking at this guy, thinking to myself, this

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Speaker 2: guy was born when I was working for the Raiders. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, okay. And I started with my

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Speaker 2: conversation with Goff and I didn't know where he was

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Speaker 2: going to go with this, but he looked right at

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Speaker 2: me and goes, we got to start all over with

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Speaker 2: this guy. M we got to start all over again.

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Speaker 3: That's not good.

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Speaker 2: And he brought in a former Cal teammate of Jered

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01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 2: Goff just to sort of give him a familiar face

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01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 2: to sort of hang out with. I mean, have you

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Speaker 2: ever seen a transformation from year one to year or

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01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 2: two similar to what mcah was able to do with golf.

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Speaker 3: No, because it's all about confidence, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: the confidence is can you build him up, much like

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01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 3: we saw to talk about Lowa last year built up.

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01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 3: He was not only built up by tybreek Hill, who

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Speaker 3: lauded him and lavished him with praise at every turn,

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Speaker 3: but Mike McDaniels also taught spoke highly of him over

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Speaker 3: and over and over again. And so sometimes that stuff

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01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 3: you just need to hear it, need to speak it

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01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 3: to his existence so they can believe. And with Jerry Goff,

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Speaker 3: they not only did that where they positively built him up,

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Speaker 3: but they put a system around him. There was almost

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Speaker 3: feel proof he did his thing. It played to his

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01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 3: wheelhouse and he flourished. And when he had a little

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Speaker 3: success early called only wildfire.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing you saw during his rookie season that

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Speaker 2: could tell you a year later he would be that.

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Speaker 8: Kind of quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And now they're insisting in Detroit's he's even a better

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Speaker 2: quarterback now than he was with the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I can believe that. And you know it's funny because

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Speaker 3: this play it paid off for the Rams in the

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01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 3: immediate Yes, but I do wonder if they're rude to

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Speaker 3: day today. Gave up on Jerry Goff because he's been solid.

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Speaker 3: He was solid last year in Detroit, and as Detroit

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01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 3: is kind of inching towards playoff contender status, title, contention

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01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,799
Speaker 3: of whatever it is, he's going to get more respect

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Speaker 3: and more climb. And just remember he's still a young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And they're adding pieces around him. The problem is they

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01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 2: need defense. They need defense in the worst way. All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, is it going to

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Speaker 2: end on Monday? We're speaking about the NBA Finals. We'll

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Speaker 2: give our thoughts. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 8: Here's the two to one.

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01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 2: Fernando swings lines it in the right field that'll get

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Speaker 2: down for a base hit. Bogunts is scored to.

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01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 8: Tie the game.

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01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 4: Kim is on his way to throw from Jones to

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01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 4: Tag not in time, a two run single for Tatists,

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Speaker 4: and the pond.

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Speaker 2: Gres go back in front. I can think of one

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01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 2: person excited about that. Yeah, that would be our producer.

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Speaker 2: We're coming you live from the Tairaq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: So Brandon is our resident Padre die Hard. I said

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Speaker 2: something to you the other day, and I immediately got

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Speaker 2: some backlash from outrage Podrey fans saying that that I

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01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 2: had divorced the Podres, which I thought was ridiculous. I've

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Speaker 2: invested a lot in the Podreys over the last decade,

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01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: with very little to show for it. Kevin Acy of

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01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 2: the La Times, who was the beat writer for the Union,

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01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 2: well actually San Diego Union Tribune Times runs that place

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01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 2: as well. He apparently did an article today, came out

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 2: today or yes, or the last couple of days or

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01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 2: he said. So. All the Pottery's are doing now is

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01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 2: playing to defend the honor of an owner trying to

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Speaker 2: be better and justify the faith of a fan base

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01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 2: that bought into the owner's pricey idealism and possibly save

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Speaker 2: the team from pumping the brakes on its full speed

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01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 2: ahead chase of a championship. So their win today, they've

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Speaker 2: won three in a row. They're exactly two and a

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01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 2: half games out of the wildcard with ninety eight games

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01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 2: to play. So when he posted that article, Brandon, he

2216
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 2: was just getting eviscerated by Padres. Do you get outraged

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 2: by that or are you understanding the frustration that all

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01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 2: pottery fans have had to suffer through in their championship

2219
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 2: lists career?

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Speaker 10: Well, I understand the frustration. I mean, when you promote

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01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 10: that you're putting, you know, and you invest in a

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01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 10: product on the field, people expect results, and with them

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01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 10: not showing results, I mean I understand why people are

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01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 10: not happy about it.

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01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you had Machado's injury. That n't help.

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01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 2: I saw Soda the other day go fire for five,

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01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 2: So maybe he's getting together.

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Speaker 10: Which made a great catch by the way, Yeah, yeah, fantastic.

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 2: So and Tatis was out for part of the early season,

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01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 2: and they've been some inconsistency, so they're pitching, so.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they've just had like they've had to find, you know,

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01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 10: where kind of the holes are. They have their superstars,

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01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 10: but then they have guys like you know, Austin Ola

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01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 10: has been underperforming. They went out, they got Gary Sanchez.

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Speaker 10: Hopefully he can continue to rake. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 10: a matter of like the supporting cast at this point

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01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 10: playing up to the and the superstars playing up to

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Speaker 10: the level that they're able to.

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Speaker 2: He here's the thing, Bucky about the ownership of the

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Speaker 2: padres So. Peter Seidler is an interesting guy, and he

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Speaker 2: actually wanted to meet with me. He knew of my

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01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 2: work for many years in the LA market. He is

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Speaker 2: part of the O'Malley family, and when they were not

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01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 2: able to reacquire the Dodgers, they set their sights on

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01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 2: the podres So. He obviously comes from a very successful

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01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 2: pedigree as part of that O'Malley group. But you know,

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Speaker 2: as a fan, what do you want for when you

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01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 2: are a fan of a team, you want a commitment

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Speaker 2: from ownership to do whatever it takes to win. And

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Speaker 2: Peter Seiler publicly had stated that I have no problems

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Speaker 2: spending money if I think it could ultimately get us

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Speaker 2: to where I want to get. And that is to

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Speaker 2: win a World Series and a lot of guys can

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01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 2: talk to talk, they walk the walk. Even though they

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Speaker 2: were labeled a small market team, suddenly their payroll was

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Speaker 2: on par with the Dodgers and the Yankees, and people.

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Speaker 7: Are already, oh, how are they doing that?

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Speaker 2: It's a long season. Padres could easily get hot the

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01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 2: way the NLS is going right now, do you really

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01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 2: think the Arizona Diamondbacks are going to win the NLS? No,

2261
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 2: but the Dodgers pitching has been horrifical that this kid

2262
01:57:56,440 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 2: Bobby Miller another shutout perform six and he's a shutout ball.

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01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 2: His the ras under one in his first four starts.

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01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 2: Dodgers just keep finding personnel, by the way, Iowa, Sam

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01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 2: was here, Chris always coming in in our final hour,

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01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: Chris always great to see. We mentioned Nick Cope of

2267
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 2: course doing a tremendous job with the updates out there.

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01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, as a fan, Bucky, I mean that's all

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01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 2: you're looking for. His ownership is committed to the team

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Speaker 2: as I am as a fan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you want to feel like everyone is

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01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 3: all the way in, everyone invested in winning a championship.

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01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 3: That's why you hope that ownership gets involved in the

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01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 3: sports business. It is the one thing that brings everybody together.

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01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 3: We're traveled by nature. We all want to be a

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01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 3: part of a bigger thing. And so if you're a

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01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 3: Padres fan and it's been this long drought where you're

2278
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 3: just desperate to win, you want to see the results.

2279
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 3: And they spent the money, but now you want to

2280
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 3: see that. Look the compensation equaited some production.

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01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 2: Well here's what I do know about the Padre fan base.

2282
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 2: They're out in force, and that place was a ghost

2283
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 2: town five years ago, literally a ghost town. No longer

2284
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 2: the case out there at Peca, which is an amazing ballpark.

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01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 2: All right, Bucky, you're mister Miami Heat. Look into your

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01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 2: crystal ball. Do you see a scenario where we go

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01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 2: back to Miami for a game six?

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01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you go back, going back, going back for six.

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01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 3: I know it's the leak right now, but all the.

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01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 2: Time it's gonna jump out. Is it just gonna be

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01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 2: Butler at a bum?

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01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 3: No, Like the guys have missed a lot of shots.

2293
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 3: Like if you go back and look, Martin Struce.

2294
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 2: Give me the surprise star in that five game five win.

2295
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna go your UCLA guy. Kevin Love turns

2296
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 3: back to Clark. He Love, he turned, and he gives

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01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 3: us a double double. How about he gives us a

2298
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 3: double double, but he gives us a vintage double double.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what I will say. I hope you're right.

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Speaker 3: I do too. I don't want to you will not

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01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 3: be right. I don't want it end.

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Speaker 2: I don't think when they have a chance to wrap

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01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 2: up their first championship that they are going to blow

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01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 2: it on that home court. Otherwise, Malone may blow us

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Speaker 2: head off. By the way, keep it here. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.