Speaker 1: Calm Down with Aaron and Charissa is a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. We are Back, Ladies and Gentlemen, Calm
Speaker 1: Down Podcast. I'm Charissa Thompson. She's Aaron Andrews. And before
Speaker 1: we started rolling, I already got my ears are hurting.
Speaker 1: Were not with us on the last episode or saw
Speaker 1: our socials? Aaron had her ears pinned back? What's wrong
Speaker 1: with you? Now? Well, it is a little chili here
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I know you're in Tampa Bay right now.
Speaker 1: It's chili, and I feel like I don't have the
Speaker 1: heat on in here, and they are sensitive below sevent
Speaker 1: dy degrees. That's something we didn't clear up. Plus these
Speaker 1: earphones are hurting them. So yeah, I'm a headcase right.
Speaker 1: Oh my god? How do you ever work games where
Speaker 1: you have to wear like the ear muffs and like
Speaker 1: the Green Bay games where we see you all bundled up.
Speaker 1: What do the ears do in those climates? Just fall off? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: you always have to wear a two situation and I'm
Speaker 1: wearing an I f B, which isn't so dramatic like
Speaker 1: these headphones. But yes, once it gets past below seventy,
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble. Like we were walking the dog yesterday
Speaker 1: and it was really chilly, and I've forgotted to as
Speaker 1: they like to say in Oh Canada. And uh, I
Speaker 1: was complaining the whole time that my ears hurt. Because yes,
Speaker 1: so again for those of you guys that didn't listen
Speaker 1: to our last episode, Um, Aaron had her ears pulled
Speaker 1: back in what were You in High School? I was
Speaker 1: going into ninth grade. It was a really big deal.
Speaker 1: Changing of schools. Yeah, changing of schools, ears pinned back.
Speaker 1: Fun fact I didn't know about her. But one of
Speaker 1: the many reasons we love this podcast because we get
Speaker 1: to learn things about one another that we didn't know.
Speaker 1: After a friendship of over ten plus years, UM calmed down.
Speaker 1: A lot has happened. I haven't seen you in over
Speaker 1: a week. Normally we check in and see each other
Speaker 1: in person at least once a week. I am in Florida,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Tampa Bay. I'm down here visiting another
Speaker 1: mutual friend of ours, Sarah Walsh. But Tampa is a
Speaker 1: buzz and sister, your hometown is so excited right now?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who didn't they signed back? We got
Speaker 1: Lavonte David's back, Shaquillebert. Yeah, Well, Gronk. Everyone is back, Tom, Tom, Tampa, Godwin, Lavonte,
Speaker 1: David Hello, back with Devin White. Yes, please sign us up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's rumors. My dad just sent me a rumor that
Speaker 1: the Patriots may think about sending James White to Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: This is crazy news. Yesterday Drew Brees finally retiring up finally,
Speaker 1: but there was obviously rumors since our game the NFC
Speaker 1: was it the divisional game? Did you see the announcement
Speaker 1: from his kiddos? It was so cute, right, and of
Speaker 1: course there was that very very touching moment the last
Speaker 1: you know, you guys you worked that game on the
Speaker 1: field where Tom Brady came back out of the locker
Speaker 1: room and was on the on the field with Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and and his kids. A really touching moment through
Speaker 1: his kid A monster passed like on the money. By
Speaker 1: the way, did you see that one of these kids
Speaker 1: jumped up and grabbed it. The other one was getting
Speaker 1: tackled by his sister. It was awesome, so good. We
Speaker 1: have a great podcast coming up today. Steven Galanis. He
Speaker 1: is the co founder and CEO of Cameo. Aaron has
Speaker 1: been trying to get me on cameo for what over
Speaker 1: a year? Two years? I'm obsessed with it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Aaron, no one cares about whatever video. I said.
Speaker 1: She really is going to try to recruit me. She
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to close the deal, but maybe Stephen
Speaker 1: can convince me. Um, with Aaron's help, because apparently you
Speaker 1: get a Finder's feed. There's like a whole thing here
Speaker 1: built in. We will get into all of that and
Speaker 1: a whole lot more later on in the podcast. But um,
Speaker 1: we mentioned Drew Brees. Do you have a memorable Drew
Speaker 1: Brees story, because I'm sure that the listeners would want
Speaker 1: to know, as you've spent a lot of time, uh
Speaker 1: down there in New Orleans. Yeah, Drew's awesome. I mean
Speaker 1: the one that I did a ton of Saints games
Speaker 1: obviously with him playing again my ears hurt and fixing
Speaker 1: my headphones. Um yeah, you know you remember the ones
Speaker 1: the playoff games that I was gonna try to get
Speaker 1: Drew live right before the Minnesota miracle like and obviously
Speaker 1: that didn't work out. But um, I have a funny
Speaker 1: Drew Brees story where Drew is so serious and there's
Speaker 1: some guys that you can talk to you in the
Speaker 1: pregame warm ups, like the pre pregame warm ups before
Speaker 1: they put the unis on the pre pre is like,
Speaker 1: and they've got their own stuff on the flashy cleads,
Speaker 1: their FaceTime and their people. You know. That's where like
Speaker 1: I find and I don't know about you, you can
Speaker 1: get the great stuff. Oh yeah, and this is like
Speaker 1: to two and a half hours every time before like
Speaker 1: around that up right, like the couple hours before kickoff yep.
Speaker 1: And that's where we go out on the field. People
Speaker 1: love this kind of stuff that we go out on
Speaker 1: the field. We can talk to them and you can
Speaker 1: grab so many people at one time and just kind
Speaker 1: of get the vibe. Hey, if something happened the night before,
Speaker 1: talk to the kickers. But anyways, when I first started
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I didn't know that Drew doesn't really
Speaker 1: talk during those times. That is, he is a guy
Speaker 1: that is so dialed in. There's some players you can
Speaker 1: talk to, you there's some that prefer not to and
Speaker 1: they'll let you know. And he's one of them. And
Speaker 1: I went up to him and I was like, I
Speaker 1: think they were getting ready to face like the Rams
Speaker 1: and the defense, and I was like, Hey, what do
Speaker 1: you think about that, and I just got the uh huh,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, like and you feel
Speaker 1: bad because you're like, he's in the middle of a
Speaker 1: whole like choreograph section where he's doing his arms, his
Speaker 1: you know, warm up and everything, and I had no
Speaker 1: idea and I think a him and saw me attempted
Speaker 1: and he goes, how did that go? And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I had no idea. But Drew's awesome.
Speaker 1: He always was, so, you know, wonderful with his time,
Speaker 1: always is so accommodating. I remember the game right before
Speaker 1: we did the Rams game at home where he actually
Speaker 1: heard his thumb. He called me that Saturday, you know,
Speaker 1: because we didn't have a chance to meet with him
Speaker 1: and give me some stuff. So yeah, great, great guy,
Speaker 1: but very very serious. During the pre pregame warm ups.
Speaker 1: I remember a sit down interview you did with him.
Speaker 1: You offered to bring brownies or something I did because
Speaker 1: I found out that he was gluten free. He changed
Speaker 1: his diet um like a year or whatever before, and
Speaker 1: he was talking about, you know again like all these
Speaker 1: guys like TV and whatnot, like changing their diet and
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze as many years out as they possibly
Speaker 1: can in the league, and like how much weight he lost, which,
Speaker 1: as somebody who fluctuates weight on the daily, I am
Speaker 1: like ten pounds swing, you know, every other day. So
Speaker 1: it's dramatic but kind of close. Um. And so I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so tell me the benefits, like do
Speaker 1: we love being gluten free? And then I think I
Speaker 1: tried being gluten free for like three days and then
Speaker 1: I got over it. But he was always so nice
Speaker 1: to your point, because it was so nice, so classy.
Speaker 1: Even when look when the headlines and the things that
Speaker 1: he said weren't always the greatest, he rose to the occasion.
Speaker 1: He stepped up and he said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: want to be better. I want to be more educated
Speaker 1: in this area. And whether it was on the field
Speaker 1: or off the field, you can't help but look back
Speaker 1: at that career and you know, hats off to a
Speaker 1: guy like him, which I found out. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for I'm going to the Masters this year because I
Speaker 1: have a wonderful opportunity to go back. I know, I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. So I get to bring Scott Thompson again,
Speaker 1: my father who because the Masters, you know, reconfiguration with
Speaker 1: COVID and everything. Last year. My dad we went three
Speaker 1: years ago to win Tiger one. Lionel Ritchie's performing this
Speaker 1: small intimate concert with like sixty people. I like, get
Speaker 1: on stage like a total lunatic and I'm like singing
Speaker 1: with him condo. Lisa Rice's mom was there, like John
Speaker 1: Hammett was like a whole amazing. Then my dad and
Speaker 1: so then I'm like, sorry, take my dad to the Masters,
Speaker 1: which is like any daughters, like, you know, Dad, you're
Speaker 1: never getting a Christmas present, You're never getting a Birthday present,
Speaker 1: Like this is it, buddy. Then Tiger wins the Masters
Speaker 1: and I'm like I remember walking off Augusta National and
Speaker 1: I was like, well that was pretty good, right Dad,
Speaker 1: And he's like that was amazing. Then this wonderful guy,
Speaker 1: his name's Drew, he's the CEO of Mercedes. He was like, Scotty,
Speaker 1: you gotta come back and golf next year. And I
Speaker 1: was like that means I have to come back. And
Speaker 1: I know most people will be like, oh, you have
Speaker 1: to go back to the Masters, dude. I was there
Speaker 1: from Wednesday to Sunday, like it's it's enough golf from me.
Speaker 1: But I found out Drew Brees, Wayne Gretzky, and Joe Montana.
Speaker 1: I'm going to moderate a panel with those three beauties.
Speaker 1: The Master's going. I'm looking forward to that. And did
Speaker 1: you know how that goes? Those guys once they have
Speaker 1: a few cocktails and hang out, they're they're always a
Speaker 1: good time. So I will let you know how that goes.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I have to brag about you really quick
Speaker 1: because my husband loves this story. Go back to when
Speaker 1: you went to the Masters. You were in that prime spot.
Speaker 1: I'm so ignorant when it comes to golf. My husband
Speaker 1: is dying when he sees you on television and you're
Speaker 1: in a lot of famous pictures. Tell a story about
Speaker 1: how you got it go. This is amazing, all right.
Speaker 1: So the Masters, you know, in the words of Jim Nance,
Speaker 1: a tradition unlike any other. And I'm telling you what
Speaker 1: is the most Jim whisper it. It's a tradition like
Speaker 1: no other, a tradition like no other. I should learn
Speaker 1: to whisper my yiling um. So the Masters, you have
Speaker 1: a ticket into the tournament, but you don't have like
Speaker 1: a signed seats, right, It's unlike you know, any other
Speaker 1: event where you're like looking on your ticket and you're
Speaker 1: like row three, seat a whatever. You have to wake
Speaker 1: up at the crack of dawn and go get in
Speaker 1: line right outside the gates of the Masters, and then
Speaker 1: they open up the gates at like six am, and
Speaker 1: who's ever standing there first? You don't run to where
Speaker 1: you want to put your seats down. You have to walk.
Speaker 1: And I'm like on a speed walk here at like
Speaker 1: six am with my two little on chairs so my
Speaker 1: dad can have prime seating on Amen corner. Now Amen
Speaker 1: corners a turn very like famous at Augusta because it's
Speaker 1: where it either makes or breaks the tournament, very like
Speaker 1: tough terrain. You have to hit it over the water,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Well, this was actually the turn where
Speaker 1: guys just like kept going like hip like there's like
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that fell off the leaderboard, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden here comes Tiger Boom. He's like
Speaker 1: in contention and he just nails it. So then we
Speaker 1: turn and we go to sixteen. I think he birdies sixteen,
Speaker 1: hands up winning the tournament. But he was already in
Speaker 1: your spot. We were sitting front row an corner, and
Speaker 1: I like looked over at my dad and my dad's like,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. So again that why don't we just
Speaker 1: accept the walk off grand Slam we got from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But no, if Scotty gets to
Speaker 1: golf in August of this year, so we're going back
Speaker 1: and it will be great. But yeah, any man that
Speaker 1: loves golf. My husband loves golf, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: if your dad ever doesn't want to go, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's never not gonna want to go, Kyle, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I went, and we could save that for another time.
Speaker 1: Um the North Andy North, Sue North, wonderful people. I
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta. I drove up and I again, I
Speaker 1: know nothing about golf. It embarrasses my husband, but it's fine.
Speaker 1: I drink more Azaleas than I think one should drink syas.
Speaker 1: That's a plant. No, it's the drink that they have
Speaker 1: the masters drinking. Yeah, I was, and I had way
Speaker 1: too many and it was fantastic. And I was like
Speaker 1: they were getting ready to start it and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go watch the puck dropper kick off, Like, let's
Speaker 1: go see this thing. It was cool. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I had a good time. No cell phones allowed No,
Speaker 1: the Masters is incredible. One thing about the Master's real quick.
Speaker 1: And then we got to get going. Here the bathroom lines,
Speaker 1: no other bathroom line. I don't know know if you
Speaker 1: remember this as someone who was also drinking copious amounts
Speaker 1: of alcohol, clearly more like Coore's lights or whatever they were. Um,
Speaker 1: I had to go to the the bathroom all the time.
Speaker 1: But they run those bathroom lines so efficiently. They like
Speaker 1: hold up a thing and they're like three minutes, and
Speaker 1: so you know how long you have to wait. I
Speaker 1: was so impressed the way they ran this tournament. Also,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to have your cell phones in there,
Speaker 1: so it's the only event where everyone's actually paying attention.
Speaker 1: It is a tradition unlike any other I didn't have
Speaker 1: a bathroom line because with the North I got to
Speaker 1: go to those private cabins. Here we go. How does
Speaker 1: it feel to be rich? I No, we'll talk to
Speaker 1: somebody who's also rich. Coming up because of his incredible
Speaker 1: company cameo. We've got Steven Galanis. Don't say Galantis, it's
Speaker 1: galan Is coming up next. Great show ahead for you,
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Speaker 1: All the things. We will be back with more after
Speaker 1: the grabbing Azalea. I don't think that's the name. It
Speaker 1: is what's up everybody. We are back and we are
Speaker 1: pumped for our next guest, Stephen galant Is. It is
Speaker 1: not Galantis, it is Goanest. Ladies and gentlemen, don't let
Speaker 1: that second a fool you. But he gets an A
Speaker 1: plus in business. He's the CEO and co founder of Cameo.
Speaker 1: For those of you that don't know what cameo is,
Speaker 1: of course, it's the leading marketplace connecting fans directly with
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of pop culture personalities in the form
Speaker 1: of customized messages. Aaron Andrews is on Cameo. You can
Speaker 1: find her there and so many others. Stephen, we are
Speaker 1: pumped to have you. I know Aaron in particular, thank
Speaker 1: you for having me. I'm so excited to meet both
Speaker 1: of you guys. We're stoked. Man. What a successful you know.
Speaker 1: Aaron can speak to it. She's been trying to. By
Speaker 1: the end of this interview, if you will let me,
Speaker 1: I will join Cameo. But she's been trying to convince
Speaker 1: me to get on this platform for a long time.
Speaker 1: Ready all the time, a. Troy Aikman is the one.
Speaker 1: We were in a meeting room in Minnesota getting ready
Speaker 1: for a Vikings Thursday night game, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: aarent you ever heard of a thing called Cameo? And
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this? Mike Pereiro words right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was ready to throw a flag and
Speaker 1: I got invested. And I've been trying to get this
Speaker 1: beauty on for a year and a half and she
Speaker 1: doesn't listen, Steven, she just doesn't care. You care, but
Speaker 1: you don't get it. If if I can't convince her
Speaker 1: to come on by the end of this interview, then
Speaker 1: I should be CEO anymore. Exactly. Well, let's back it
Speaker 1: up then, you know big picture. I gave the intro
Speaker 1: of what cameo is according to your bio, But how
Speaker 1: would you describe cameo when people come up and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm the CEO and co founder of Cameo and someone says,
Speaker 1: what is cameo? What's your definition? Well? Number one, I
Speaker 1: think you nailed it. So I love everything that you said.
Speaker 1: Cameo is a marketplace where we helped fans connect with
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of the most exciting people in sports
Speaker 1: and entertainment and pop culture. We primarily do that through
Speaker 1: our first product, which is the cameo personalized video message.
Speaker 1: When we had the idea four years ago, the idea
Speaker 1: was the selfie is the new autograph. And you know,
Speaker 1: I know plenty of people that have run into you
Speaker 1: guys over the years because when they meet you, they
Speaker 1: put a picture on Instagram and that is better than
Speaker 1: the memorabilia that's on the back of the wall behind
Speaker 1: you there. And um, it really started with the idea
Speaker 1: that the selfie was the new autograph. And the problem
Speaker 1: we were trying to solve was how do you take
Speaker 1: a selfie with someone that you're never in a room with,
Speaker 1: that you never actually meet in real life. So the
Speaker 1: cameo was a way to basically remove distances of variable
Speaker 1: in getting an autograph from someone are getting a selfie
Speaker 1: from someone. And it all started with a Seattle Seahawks player, right, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, full disclosure and we'll get into Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson either staying with Seattle or going to your team,
Speaker 1: Stephen um Arrissa, Like I said, she's from Seattle, So
Speaker 1: can you explain how that all happened? Yeah, this actually
Speaker 1: crazy story, and funny enough, today is the exact four
Speaker 1: year anniversary of us launching actually offline. I'll send you,
Speaker 1: guys the tweet that Cassius Maybe I'll retweet it and
Speaker 1: I'll tagle both of you guys, but I'll show you
Speaker 1: the tweet that Cassius Marsh sent to actually kick it
Speaker 1: off and the story behind cameo. My grandmother passed away.
Speaker 1: My co founder Martin flew in from Los Angeles for
Speaker 1: the day to Chicago for my grandmother's funeral, and we
Speaker 1: were catching up. We had done some movie production stuff
Speaker 1: together and we'd always wanted to work with each other again.
Speaker 1: I was working at LinkedIn at the time, and Martin
Speaker 1: had decided to become an NFL agent, and his big
Speaker 1: idea was if he could find a big defensive lineman
Speaker 1: that had a big personality, he could get him in movies.
Speaker 1: Because my uncle is a pretty big movie producer. He
Speaker 1: did Rambo and Conan and One Survivor, and he's done
Speaker 1: a lot of big action movies. So he really felt like,
Speaker 1: if I could sign Cassius Marsh, maybe I could turn
Speaker 1: him into the next Rock. Right, I can like kind
Speaker 1: of backdoor into signing the top movie star on Earth,
Speaker 1: and interestingly enough, Martin could not find any type of
Speaker 1: off the field income for a Cassius Marsh in year
Speaker 1: one and year two of being his agent. And in fact,
Speaker 1: there was a story that one viral back in seventeen
Speaker 1: Cassius Marsh had had his car broken into it the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks facility and like thousands of dollars of magic
Speaker 1: the gathering cards were stolen out of the back of
Speaker 1: his car. He put a tweet out and he said, hey, twelves,
Speaker 1: I don't care what you thought was in that bag,
Speaker 1: Like what was in there was more important to me
Speaker 1: than money or jewels or or anything else, Like just
Speaker 1: give me my my Pokemon cars back room. I been
Speaker 1: gathering cards back and they all press target. So this
Speaker 1: set off like a storm. You know, it was on
Speaker 1: p T. I was on bar stool, like everybody's having
Speaker 1: like this crazy you know time with the fact like
Speaker 1: a two d sixty five pound jack defensive lineman is
Speaker 1: breaking out about his magic the gathering cards gotten stolen,
Speaker 1: and Martin tried to get I think it's called Wizards
Speaker 1: of the Coast, Who's a Seattle based company that makes
Speaker 1: magic the gathering the sponsor Cash is Marsh, and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, they wouldn't do it. They're just like no.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because today, like cards are so hot
Speaker 1: n f T. You think of like all this stuff,
Speaker 1: all the things that people were nerding out about four
Speaker 1: years ago that couldn't move like now if now Cash
Speaker 1: this Marsh actually has opened a card shop and like
Speaker 1: as a whole thing going. But at that time Martin
Speaker 1: was so frustrated that he couldn't find any off the
Speaker 1: field income from this guy. And ESPN had a thirty
Speaker 1: for thirty that year called Broke that came out and
Speaker 1: in the documentary it said that of NFL players go
Speaker 1: broke five years after playing their last game. This is
Speaker 1: a problem I passionately cared about. I was an athlete
Speaker 1: at Duke. I have a lot of friends that made
Speaker 1: the NBA or made the NFL, but like not all
Speaker 1: of them like had the you know, fifteen twenty year
Speaker 1: career and a lot of them. You know, one story
Speaker 1: in particular, I have a really good friend who months
Speaker 1: after winning the National championship in texted me to ask
Speaker 1: if I could Western Union him three hundred dollars because
Speaker 1: you know, the NBA was in lockout, he didn't get drafted,
Speaker 1: like all this stuff was happening, and and you know
Speaker 1: a couple of months earlier, he was selling out, you know,
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Stadium at the National Championship, cutting down the nets, right,
Speaker 1: So I was always really this was something that was
Speaker 1: really personal to me because I had friends that had
Speaker 1: been through it. But this whole idea of being able
Speaker 1: to delight somebody without like interrupting them personally, Like how
Speaker 1: many times have you guys been sitting in restaurants and
Speaker 1: you see your fans are staring at you, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, they might work up the courage to come
Speaker 1: and talk to you, and like, you'll take the picture
Speaker 1: when you can, you'll sign the autograph when you can.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you're having a conversation you just like can't
Speaker 1: be bothered, and then everyone's gonna be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Like Aaron I walked up to two in a in
Speaker 1: a restaurant and like and she was she was so
Speaker 1: mean that she didn't like I've had four drinks and
Speaker 1: I know what's wrong to talk to people? You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, give me a break here. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: saw I saw him the bar and like we wouldn't
Speaker 1: so you know, they're such bitches. They wan't talk to
Speaker 1: me right, And we wanted to end that because if
Speaker 1: you consit in the comfort of your home, you know
Speaker 1: you can go and serve more, you know, delight more
Speaker 1: of your fans and and you know, it's such a
Speaker 1: magical moment. Like you've seen some of these reaction videos
Speaker 1: that people get, like thirty seconds of your time could
Speaker 1: be the best moment of you know, that person's day
Speaker 1: or the best moment of their life. I remember one
Speaker 1: case that I'll never forget. Early on Camera's History, Brett
Speaker 1: Farban made a commercial for this girl who was the
Speaker 1: areas of a major company in Wisconsin. Her father passed
Speaker 1: away and at her wedding, you know, she would go
Speaker 1: to Pavery Packers game with her with her dad. At
Speaker 1: her wedding, Brett was like, your dad so proud of you, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he's not here, but hopefully this is there.
Speaker 1: She's bawling at the greatest moment of the greatest day
Speaker 1: of her life. Was a Brett Farve can amazing by
Speaker 1: the way Brett Farve big winner on cameo chop, Like guys, right,
Speaker 1: isn't he right up there with Carol Baskin. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he Brett's Brett stun fantastic, And I think part
Speaker 1: of it is that, um, he just loves doing him
Speaker 1: and he's kept his price at a pretty affordable rate,
Speaker 1: Like he's four hundred bucks. He was number four, so
Speaker 1: he added a couple of zeros. You know, there's certainly
Speaker 1: people like he could charge way more. He really loves
Speaker 1: doing the videos and he has a lot of fun
Speaker 1: with him. That's awesome. You mentioned you guys are just
Speaker 1: your four year anniversary. Then today I was gonna start
Speaker 1: drinking before noon, but now forget it. We got sharing
Speaker 1: to celebrate. So congratulations. Are you surprised, Stephen? You know,
Speaker 1: obviously you sit out and Aaron and I. Aaron has
Speaker 1: a very successful women's clothing line. I'm starting out in
Speaker 1: an interior design company, and a lot of the reason
Speaker 1: we wanted to start this podcast was to get into
Speaker 1: different areas of our life, which is that entrepreneurial side
Speaker 1: of us that we like to do. And for you,
Speaker 1: you know your background and then starting this company. Are
Speaker 1: you surprised even to yourself and to Martin and Devon
Speaker 1: about how successful this has been in such a short
Speaker 1: amount of time. I mean, it's such an interesting question,
Speaker 1: right because like, look, as an entrepreneur, and you guys
Speaker 1: both know this from your other ventures. You don't start
Speaker 1: something if you don't think it's gonna work, right, Like
Speaker 1: I absolutely thought it was gonna work. I quit my
Speaker 1: job at LinkedIn three months before we sold the other one.
Speaker 1: I just had that conviction and one question in particular.
Speaker 1: For the last three months I was at LinkedIn, I
Speaker 1: was telling everybody around me about this idea, and probably
Speaker 1: half of those people work for cameo at this point.
Speaker 1: Pretty funny, but I'll never forget. It was New Year's
Speaker 1: Day seventeen and I was sitting in a hot tub
Speaker 1: in Nicaragua with a bunch of people that I was
Speaker 1: working with them, and one of them asked, They're like, Stephen,
Speaker 1: this idea is like too good. Like if you don't
Speaker 1: take this shot and you stay at LinkedIn and somebody
Speaker 1: else builds us and it becomes a billion dollar company,
Speaker 1: could you live with yourself? And the truth was the
Speaker 1: answer to me is absolutely not, And I just had
Speaker 1: to go. Like, mentally, I knew that this was my time.
Speaker 1: Nobody had asked me that question before, but I knew
Speaker 1: I had to take the shot and and look in
Speaker 1: some ways, um, you know, despite how fast Cameo has grown,
Speaker 1: Like I look at it, and to me, it's like,
Speaker 1: why aren't we going faster? Like why aren't more? Like like,
Speaker 1: I think that's just a natural thing. As the CEO
Speaker 1: or an entrepreneur, you should never be satisfied with because
Speaker 1: you know you can always do better, you can always
Speaker 1: go faster. There's five million people in the world, including you,
Speaker 1: that could be on Cameo that aren't right now, right,
Speaker 1: we have so from my perspective, it's the top of
Speaker 1: the second ending here, Like we've been off to a
Speaker 1: great start, but we're building a company that we think,
Speaker 1: you know, has the opportunity to be revolutionary and in
Speaker 1: the way that you know, talent and fans, interactive scale.
Speaker 1: And it's also just such a fun company because like
Speaker 1: we make people happy, right, Like, I think about how
Speaker 1: much negativity there is and social and I've seen it
Speaker 1: for both of you guys. You guys have been through
Speaker 1: that ship that's happened online, like people doing stupid, stupid things,
Speaker 1: leaking things, all that stuff. Like this is all about positivity, right,
Speaker 1: It's like your biggest bends in the world getting to
Speaker 1: go directly through them. And you know, there's a million
Speaker 1: people in both of your d ms that like have
Speaker 1: asked for this in the past, but because it's zero dollars, right, like,
Speaker 1: you can't answer all of them, and there's no like
Speaker 1: good way to open the d M up, Like you
Speaker 1: open it up then they can talk to you. And
Speaker 1: then even if you make that video for them, if
Speaker 1: you take them out of your d M, then they're
Speaker 1: like mad at you. It's like you might have that
Speaker 1: have done it. So it's just been like a really good,
Speaker 1: safe thing that works on both sides of the market,
Speaker 1: and that's why it's gone as well as it has.
Speaker 1: I think my mind is blown. I'm like jumping up
Speaker 1: and down, like we're like doing a Tom Brady interview here,
Speaker 1: So what crisis said. We're both in the middle of,
Speaker 1: you know, with these startups, and I think, like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, you're in the second inning or top of
Speaker 1: the second with me, And I've discussed this with Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1: My mind is always like this, and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: like write it all down. I'm trying to push my
Speaker 1: people for someone that has been successful in four years
Speaker 1: with this startup. What are some keys here for you
Speaker 1: know that we should be following or to deal with
Speaker 1: all these voices in our head? Help me out here? Well,
Speaker 1: Number one, I think it's about making sure that the
Speaker 1: business you're working on is your e key guy and
Speaker 1: ekey guys. This Japanese philosophy I've learned about from other entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1: And if you were to make a vent diagram, right,
Speaker 1: so imagine like a two circle VENN diagram, but imagine
Speaker 1: one with four circles, so there's one on top, one
Speaker 1: on the bottom, right and left. You need to find
Speaker 1: the intersection of what do you love to do? What
Speaker 1: is the world need? What can you get paid for?
Speaker 1: And uh? And what I'm sorry, hold on, uh, I
Speaker 1: can't believe a scoony key guy up right now the world.
Speaker 1: You have so many brilliant thoughts you can't you really are.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's what are you great at? What
Speaker 1: does the world need? What do you love to do?
Speaker 1: And what can you get paid for it? And it's
Speaker 1: the intersection of that and for me, like I love sports,
Speaker 1: I love entertainment. My nickname since Kindergarten has been the mayor,
Speaker 1: I bring people together, like this is what I like
Speaker 1: to do. And I think you just need to make
Speaker 1: sure that your business is a real personification of who
Speaker 1: you are, what your values are, what you're about, because
Speaker 1: it's just too damn hard to run a company. And
Speaker 1: if the company's mission and your own mission are not
Speaker 1: like one and the same, or the values that you're
Speaker 1: you know, espousing and as a leader are not the
Speaker 1: ones you live by every day, Like your employees are
Speaker 1: gonna be like that's bullshit, Like you don't say, you know,
Speaker 1: roll out the red carpet is a core value of
Speaker 1: Cameo and Steven. If you're not doing that, if you're
Speaker 1: not that person that's always trying to make people happy
Speaker 1: and bring them together, like it just doesn't work. There's
Speaker 1: too much cognitive dissidence. So I just think it's all
Speaker 1: about making sure you're doing something that like really fills
Speaker 1: you up fully. I love all of that, And I'm
Speaker 1: looking at all your accolades here. I mean, Time Magazines
Speaker 1: fifty Most Genius Companies, Fast Companies fifty most Innovative Companies.
Speaker 1: Hollywood recognizes, Uh, you got you as the top innovator.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's all these things that have come with
Speaker 1: this idea, this authentic idea, and then you've put it
Speaker 1: into action. What's next for Cameo? And I only say
Speaker 1: that not because you're not happy with the current status quo,
Speaker 1: but because you are that innovator. What is next? What
Speaker 1: does Cameo look like to you in five years? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well five years um so I think I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people have also wondered, like the even what
Speaker 1: is cameo really at its core? Is this social network?
Speaker 1: Is that a marketplace? I believe we're creating the first
Speaker 1: social marketplace, so then has aspects of like an ETC
Speaker 1: or an eBay or Uber or door Dash, but it
Speaker 1: also has a lot of the social aspects as well,
Speaker 1: of like an Instagram and TikTok, and I think it's scale.
Speaker 1: We have the opportunity to build the world's first social
Speaker 1: marketplace that's not based on an ad revenue model. So
Speaker 1: you know, like on Instagram or TikTok or Twitter, you
Speaker 1: guys are creating content every day, you're getting famous and
Speaker 1: you're getting distribution. But they take all the money, right
Speaker 1: like they sell ads against the eyeballs that your content
Speaker 1: is bringing. Aster. Because our business model has always been
Speaker 1: talent centric, like we don't have to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 1: we've got this golden juice, how do we pay and
Speaker 1: how do we pay? Like how do we pay you?
Speaker 1: So that's big and and really if I had to
Speaker 1: like zoom all the way out, I think we're building
Speaker 1: the marketplace for people's time for rex amount of money
Speaker 1: A fan should be able to pay you or aeron, uh,
Speaker 1: you should be able to pay to do why activity
Speaker 1: was the person that you love? And the core cameo
Speaker 1: is just the first of many different interactions that we're
Speaker 1: going to roll out. Give me an example, So like
Speaker 1: if somebody wants to go to a game with Aaron
Speaker 1: that she's not working, Like, give me an example. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example. One of my best
Speaker 1: friends from is Lance Thomas played for the New York
Speaker 1: Knicks for a long time and Lance is an avid fisherman, right,
Speaker 1: he's got He played for New Orleans for the first
Speaker 1: couple of years and got set up. You know, he's
Speaker 1: he's from New Jersey, like you know, six foot eight,
Speaker 1: like big black guy from New Jersey and he ended
Speaker 1: up coming down to New Orleans and befriended some fisherman
Speaker 1: and now his life is like his fishing boat in Venice, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: How cool would it be if you're a Knicks fan
Speaker 1: and that you know also want to do and like
Speaker 1: this is your guy. You go set with Lance and
Speaker 1: like Louisian in Louisiana, go catch fish in the gulf.
Speaker 1: Like these are the types of interact exactly right, but
Speaker 1: like or I even think of you know, like one
Speaker 1: that we're releasing right now is called Cameo Calls, which
Speaker 1: is a v I P meet and greet product. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if the team's told you about it,
Speaker 1: but you'll be able to say, like, hey, I've got
Speaker 1: an hour right now, I want to meet forty my
Speaker 1: fans for two minutes each. We're gonna have a FaceTime
Speaker 1: like this and now we're gonna take a selfie together
Speaker 1: that you can put on Instagram. So that's like one
Speaker 1: of the next things that we're we're rolling out. Very
Speaker 1: cool and of course you have the philanthropic arm of
Speaker 1: this as well. Why is that so important for you?
Speaker 1: Cameo Care is raised over a million dollars and how
Speaker 1: does that work, Stephen? So we've always enabled talent to
Speaker 1: do this for charity if they want to and uh. Actually,
Speaker 1: one of the first big viral moments that we had
Speaker 1: as a company was during Hurricane Harvey in Houston, and
Speaker 1: we got dozens of our talent, like they were probably
Speaker 1: only forty people on the platform I the time. And
Speaker 1: I remember like Trey Wingo was one of them. He
Speaker 1: had come on the platform and then ESPN like kicked
Speaker 1: him off for a bit and now he's got But
Speaker 1: the bottom line, like, we got all this talent to
Speaker 1: come and say, hey, we're gonna match Cameo is gonna
Speaker 1: donate a hundred percent of its earnings to Hurricane Harvey relief.
Speaker 1: The talent. We're excited about it. They did it, and
Speaker 1: and you know it was cool, like for a tiny
Speaker 1: little company. I think we raised like forty grand or something,
Speaker 1: but you know, we had like four employees at the time.
Speaker 1: And from that moment, we realized, like, hey, charity is
Speaker 1: something that you know, everybody can get behind. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: people some talent like you might feel like, hey, I
Speaker 1: make so much money, like I don't want to charge
Speaker 1: my fans for something. But one of the big things
Speaker 1: is that that we know is that if Aaron was Frete,
Speaker 1: she would get books so much that she wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to do any of the videos. So the reality
Speaker 1: is prices a necessary friction which enables fulfillment. And if
Speaker 1: if she decides to take that money and send it
Speaker 1: to a cause that she's passionate about, that's amazing. So
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Aaron, you get to set your own price,
Speaker 1: right like we do, and I have so much I
Speaker 1: need to ask you about it, but go ahead. CT No, No,
Speaker 1: that's what that was my part. Like, you just get
Speaker 1: to determine the price, which is great. Right. You're not
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, if you're this tire, you charge this much,
Speaker 1: because that kind of puts you in a weird position. Aaron.
Speaker 1: If you're like, I don't want to charge that much,
Speaker 1: or I, you know, want to charge more or whatever,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'll tell you a funny story about pricing um.
Speaker 1: Because again we're creating a completely new market. So what
Speaker 1: was the comp for a cameo? Is it like how
Speaker 1: much you charge for an autograph a picture at a meeting?
Speaker 1: Grade we had no idea. A funny story back in
Speaker 1: when we were getting going, a max salary player in
Speaker 1: the NBA came up and said, Hey, I want to
Speaker 1: do cameo. But I make million dollars a year, and
Speaker 1: I recently got paid like fifty grand to show up
Speaker 1: at this kid's bar. Mitzvah, I think I need to
Speaker 1: be like ten grand trader by background. So I walked
Speaker 1: him through the map. I said, you don't need ten grand.
Speaker 1: You make twenty million dollars a year. Divide that by
Speaker 1: two thousand hours in a work here fifty weeks. Divide
Speaker 1: by sixty and guess how much money you make per minute?
Speaker 1: If you make million dollars per year, do you have
Speaker 1: a guess you had to divide by two? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You make two hundred and eight dollars per minute, so
Speaker 1: carry the one. If you charge a hundred dollars or
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty dollars per minute, you can do two
Speaker 1: cameos per minute. You can actually make more money per
Speaker 1: minute on cameo charging a hundred a hundred fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: Then you could being a max salary player in the NBA.
Speaker 1: And imagining that mother in Detroit that wants to take
Speaker 1: her kid to come see you play at a Pistons game,
Speaker 1: it actually costs her more to buy tickets and parking,
Speaker 1: and you know, sodas and and and everything hot dogs
Speaker 1: to go see you play. Then you like wishing the
Speaker 1: kid happy birthday, which way more well. Also in brand
Speaker 1: is so important. It's got to help your brand when
Speaker 1: you you have access. If someone you know loves Aaron
Speaker 1: so much and she they want this video, it's like
Speaker 1: they don't have to have that impression of you from
Speaker 1: the bar, like, well what a batch Like it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love Aaron, she gave us this video. So I
Speaker 1: imagine it helps people's overall like appeal to absolutely. Um.
Speaker 1: We all have interacted with so many you know, you
Speaker 1: guys have interacted with the million talent. I have interacted
Speaker 1: with the million talent. You remember those people that like
Speaker 1: go above and beyond. And there's actually a pretty funny
Speaker 1: story that I have in my family. So, uh, the
Speaker 1: Lakers had just won the game the championship in game seven,
Speaker 1: the Lakers were all in Hawaii like resting up after
Speaker 1: like a crazy finals. I was an infant. My grandparents
Speaker 1: were walking on the beach and they saw Magic Johnson.
Speaker 1: And Magic Johnson. Uh, They're like, hey, will you take
Speaker 1: a picture with our grandkid? And he said no, And
Speaker 1: my grandmother dropped me on Magic Johnson's lap right took
Speaker 1: My grandfather was a professional photographer, took a picture. This
Speaker 1: is back in like the late eighties, so you had
Speaker 1: to go to like twenty four hour photo, you know.
Speaker 1: My dad drove across the island, tried to get it signed,
Speaker 1: and Magic was like you crazy people like way right.
Speaker 1: So it's been like urban legend in our family that
Speaker 1: like Magic Johnson was like kind of a dick and
Speaker 1: wouldn't take him. But twenty five years later I ran
Speaker 1: into him again. I showed him that picture, he signed it.
Speaker 1: We had a huge laugh about it. But like imagine
Speaker 1: if I had never had the opportunity to get in
Speaker 1: front of him again, like for the whole life, my
Speaker 1: family would have been like, yeah, Magic is great now,
Speaker 1: but he was like pretty mean in this, you know,
Speaker 1: in that situation, wouldn't take a picture with like a
Speaker 1: seven year old baby. I think one of the interesting
Speaker 1: there's so many interesting stories about Cameo, but I read
Speaker 1: an article where you talked about you know, the Soup
Speaker 1: Nazi and Brian I can't say his last name from
Speaker 1: the office are crushing it, and you're like, look, it's
Speaker 1: not really about the A list celebrities. You know on cameo,
Speaker 1: which is great for me. Who's your dream celeb to
Speaker 1: get on cameo? All right? So you guys will you
Speaker 1: guys you got to kick out of this. Uh So.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Chicago and and despite like doing
Speaker 1: a duke, I'm actually a hockey player more than a
Speaker 1: basketball player. I love the NBA, I love basketball, I
Speaker 1: love football, love baseball. But like the black Hawks for
Speaker 1: my team growing up. And I always say that if
Speaker 1: the dream cameo for me, and only like the guys
Speaker 1: that I played hockey with since I was like four
Speaker 1: years old would know, this would be Eddie Bell four
Speaker 1: because he was the black Hawks. He was the goalie
Speaker 1: of the black Hawks when I was a kid. Like
Speaker 1: that inspired to me to be a goalie played in
Speaker 1: my whole life, Like that would be my guy, right,
Speaker 1: But you know, outside of that, I think like the
Speaker 1: obvious answers, like you could imagine like Obama or Arnold Schwarzenegger,
Speaker 1: Like there's just so oprah, Like there's just so many
Speaker 1: like amazing people that could be on. But for me,
Speaker 1: it's would be Eddie Bell four. And one of the
Speaker 1: cool things about Cameo is like only my oldest friends,
Speaker 1: and I guess now all your listeners would know that.
Speaker 1: So Eddie, if you're you're out there, like comes comes
Speaker 1: see us, you know, contact air and then she'll get
Speaker 1: through referral. But at the end of the time, that's
Speaker 1: what's kind of fun about CANDO is it's not just
Speaker 1: about getting the video, but it's like picking out of
Speaker 1: this list of all these people, how do I know
Speaker 1: that you know ct like you really would love like expert,
Speaker 1: you know, ex person. Uh, and hopefully it's it's not
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because we need him on the Bears. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't have enough time to get into that whole
Speaker 1: specific situation. Um, but you mentioned the referrals. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we're at the super Bowl in Miami and Troy and
Speaker 1: Joe and Terry Bradshaw, myself and Aaron were all in
Speaker 1: the room and Aaron and Troy are trying to convince
Speaker 1: Terry and I to get on cameo and I'm like,
Speaker 1: no one. I'm like this is embarrassing. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: like five dollars for a video, Like, no one's gonna
Speaker 1: get cameos, And and Troy's like, you want the referral,
Speaker 1: Like like this referral thing. What is this all about?
Speaker 1: Don't give Achman your referral? Damn it, I'll be what
Speaker 1: does it mean you're gonna get the referral? Uh So
Speaker 1: one of the things that we found in the early
Speaker 1: days was that the agents, of course, we're not helpful
Speaker 1: at all and like getting this on. In fact, we
Speaker 1: would pitch us a Cia and w ME and and
Speaker 1: UT and everybody, and they just were like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked to Aaron about it, and like she wasn't interested.
Speaker 1: And then we would meet you guys in real life
Speaker 1: and they never got to you. So one of the
Speaker 1: things we realized was, well, all the talent on Cameo
Speaker 1: they love they love it so and if instead of
Speaker 1: going through like middleman, if we just have them tell
Speaker 1: their friends to get on, like, let's compensate them for that.
Speaker 1: And since the beginning, we've had a referral system where
Speaker 1: every talent on cameras on the same financial split. It's
Speaker 1: a seventy percent split to you to us, but in
Speaker 1: a case where Aaron refers to you, you still make
Speaker 1: seventy percent, but Aaron's gonna make five percent for one year.
Speaker 1: And then Cameo makes and and she needs to be
Speaker 1: a closer, She needs to be Trevor Hoffman and close
Speaker 1: the deal here. Yeah, yeah, but this is but this
Speaker 1: is just a thank you for the people that have
Speaker 1: been there, done that, who love the product, want to
Speaker 1: be evangelist, Like I never ask anybody to do anything
Speaker 1: for free, Like I I deeply believe that, like you
Speaker 1: should come in and and if you're helping us out,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be lucrative for you too. And
Speaker 1: a lot of the biggest town we've ever gotten they
Speaker 1: come from referrals. The funniest story that I like, one
Speaker 1: of the funniest stories I have, uh Ice. He was
Speaker 1: was recording in New York with Snoop Dogg and then
Speaker 1: our old office we used to have this big monitor
Speaker 1: that would kind of show the cameos as they were
Speaker 1: coming up, and we look out on the monitor and
Speaker 1: like Snoop is like in like making cameos within a cameo,
Speaker 1: and creator on my team ends up texting, uh, I see,
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, you know, if you tell
Speaker 1: Snoop to get on this thing, um you know, like
Speaker 1: you can make the referral from it, and like you know,
Speaker 1: he said, he told Snoop about it. About fifteen minutes later,
Speaker 1: I get a FaceTime from Snoop Dogg and the first
Speaker 1: thing he says, he goes, Steve Cameo is brilliant. This
Speaker 1: thing is awesome. You gotta let me on this so
Speaker 1: we can billionize this ship. And I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: you're so good, say no more, Stephen. Can we this
Speaker 1: is my one request from Cameo? Can we please get
Speaker 1: a filter on it? Because I will say the one
Speaker 1: reason why it's so true. But listen, guys like Troy
Speaker 1: and Farv and all the guys, they just do it
Speaker 1: with their baseball hats on, which I've done a few times.
Speaker 1: But then you feel really bad odd when people are
Speaker 1: people are paying you money to give them shout outs.
Speaker 1: I don't wear makeup that much, so can you give
Speaker 1: the girl a top look like flawless? Filter? Here, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying filters. I never met a filter like my
Speaker 1: co founder Devon's right on the other side of that.
Speaker 1: Tell them this is coming right from you and we
Speaker 1: need to do this. But no, in all seriousness, one
Speaker 1: of the really interesting aesthetic decisions we made early was
Speaker 1: to prioritize authenticity over high quality, which was so like
Speaker 1: you can imagine when we were getting started, people are like, well,
Speaker 1: you need to do lights, camera action. You book Aaron
Speaker 1: for a day, you know, get all the requests for
Speaker 1: a year, like record them all here and make up
Speaker 1: all that. But you know what's kind of fun is
Speaker 1: like people like seeing the cameo like selfie video, Like
Speaker 1: they want to see like, well, what's in that bookcase behind?
Speaker 1: Like what kind of like who are those two people
Speaker 1: standing up behind here? My friends kids? The cardboard cutouts
Speaker 1: like that. That's the things that are like kind of fun.
Speaker 1: But we hear you loud and clear, and and actually
Speaker 1: the one who it's hardest for is really like drag
Speaker 1: queens are really popular on cameo, like it's a big
Speaker 1: deal to get in. And as we're thinking about some
Speaker 1: of the new things like the twenty four hour expedient bookings,
Speaker 1: that's harder because like some of them would say, on Thursday,
Speaker 1: I'm going in drag and I need time to like
Speaker 1: be ready to do this because I want to give
Speaker 1: my my fans what they want, which is means not
Speaker 1: me rolling out of bed. So we hear that loud
Speaker 1: and clear, and we're working on but we could talk
Speaker 1: to you forever. We know that you're busy and have
Speaker 1: a bunch of things going on, but just real quick
Speaker 1: before we let you go, you want Russell Wilson, We'll
Speaker 1: get your Russell Wilson. Okay, we forget that. How bad
Speaker 1: I want to hear you tell Charissa why he should
Speaker 1: be in Chicago versus Seattle. Are you like, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: thinking this is going to go down? Don't let's take
Speaker 1: do I'm just saying down. I was. I was. I
Speaker 1: was pretty cool being um, you know, being at Super
Speaker 1: Bowl this year. And one of my friends from college
Speaker 1: is actually one of Brady's quarterback coaches, Daddius Lewis. He's
Speaker 1: a longtime NFL player, and it was so interesting talking
Speaker 1: to that about how Brady just coming in transformed everything.
Speaker 1: This was a championship ready team and it just needed
Speaker 1: that captain to come in and and bring it all together.
Speaker 1: And I think the Bears, you know, are that they
Speaker 1: really are one of those teams one player away like
Speaker 1: the Bucks were, and uh, you know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody. I think Russ also, you know, coming
Speaker 1: from playing in Wisconsin, like he can handle the weather there.
Speaker 1: He did a fantastic job at Camp Randall. And you know,
Speaker 1: we'd love, we'd love to see him in a hat
Speaker 1: like this pretty soon. We still we still, we still
Speaker 1: need Russell in Seattle. Of course, Russell Wilson is you know,
Speaker 1: once in a generation guy. You're not gonna just like handover,
Speaker 1: but will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Speaker 1: Cameo a once in a lifetime opportunity that you created
Speaker 1: and have seen it flourish and you're only four years in.
Speaker 1: That's the scary part, man, you're just getting started. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, And the Seahawks are my second favorite team.
Speaker 1: Special it's a very special team to Cameo, right. It
Speaker 1: started with Seahawks fans. Yeah. If it wasn't for the twelve,
Speaker 1: as I swear to God, we wouldn't be here today.
Speaker 1: So um, you know that's so. I don't want to
Speaker 1: take him from you that bad, but I love to
Speaker 1: see I love to see a super Bowl. Hey, do
Speaker 1: we want Stephen to give a calm Down Award? Crisa?
Speaker 1: But yeah, why not? So just to fill you in
Speaker 1: case you're familiar, we hand out calm Down Awards on
Speaker 1: this show. Kevin Hart told everyone they need to stop
Speaker 1: being so sensitive. That was his Calm Down Award. Aaron
Speaker 1: gave one out for the Golden Globes attire that we
Speaker 1: saw a couple of weeks ago. So would you like
Speaker 1: to give out one. You can give it to John
Speaker 1: Schneider and tell him to calm down and trade Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson to the Magic Johnson whoever you want. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me think about it. I mean, there's just so much
Speaker 1: crazy stuff going on right now, but um, I think
Speaker 1: I think my Calm Down Award actually goes out to
Speaker 1: everybody on to jump the line for vaccines right now.
Speaker 1: Like it feels like there's just you know, like I
Speaker 1: loved hearing what President Biden side a couple a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago about like, hey, by may anyone that
Speaker 1: wants one, like they'll be able to get it. And
Speaker 1: the data is so clear that like, you know, who
Speaker 1: really needs to be careful and who would probably be
Speaker 1: fine if they got it anyways, and like let's make
Speaker 1: sure everybody that really needs the vaccine goes and gets
Speaker 1: it first, because the cavalry is on the way, and
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully this summer we can get fans back
Speaker 1: in stadiums. You know, I know we've been thinking about
Speaker 1: l A super Bowl and like fun things we can
Speaker 1: do around that, and so sad being at super Bowl
Speaker 1: this year compared to you know, Miami the year before, Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Like I just hope that l A is ready for
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, like that's like the first party when
Speaker 1: everybody's back and um and you know, let's get let's
Speaker 1: make sure everybody gets the vaccines so we can get
Speaker 1: back in stadiums and sports can be just as fun
Speaker 1: as we remember super Bowl party. I'm I'm pumped. I
Speaker 1: live in l A. So does Carrissa, Like we're all
Speaker 1: host you like, let's go, let's do it. Let's see
Speaker 1: what we're thinking about it. We were planning to do
Speaker 1: it this year and then obviously that didn't happen. So
Speaker 1: this will be our fifth super Bowl. And you know
Speaker 1: Martin my co founder. I don't know if if either
Speaker 1: of you guys have ever met him before, but he's
Speaker 1: kind of our main guy that's in l A. Like
Speaker 1: always just going around all the talent. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: We're in the Minnesota super Bowl. You know, it's so cold,
Speaker 1: and there were like ten people on cameo and we
Speaker 1: were going up to anyone big and it's like you
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, right, and then you fast forward
Speaker 1: to like last year at Miami and you know, Troy
Speaker 1: Aikman and Brett Farve and like all these It was
Speaker 1: my dad's seventieth birthday last year, and I brought him
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and I don't think my dad really
Speaker 1: got it until like Isaiah Thomas came up to and
Speaker 1: was like, that is your son is the smartest kid
Speaker 1: here because we all worked for him now and it
Speaker 1: was just like they grew up in Austin on the
Speaker 1: West side of Chicago together, like same high school and everything,
Speaker 1: and and you know my dad, like you meet in
Speaker 1: your own Bettest and meet and Brett Farve and like
Speaker 1: me and all these guys and and everybody to a
Speaker 1: t saying like I love Cameo, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for you know, for this. And then the funniest one
Speaker 1: for him was Brian Lacker ran up to me and
Speaker 1: gave me a bear hug. I've never met him before,
Speaker 1: but I was wearing the Cameo T shirt. And it's
Speaker 1: just like my wife loves you because it's finally forcing
Speaker 1: me to like interact with the fans, you know, on
Speaker 1: radio row and that was I missed that? And hopefully
Speaker 1: we're back at Radio Road next year and and fans
Speaker 1: are in the stands because that's what everybody wants right now.
Speaker 1: Of course, Steven, approximately how many people do have on
Speaker 1: cameo right now? We have just over okay, well just
Speaker 1: over forty plus one. Consider it done. I will I
Speaker 1: will finally do what you've closed the deal. I will
Speaker 1: give Aaron the referral and again I'll charge a dollar
Speaker 1: and I'll donate it all. I don't care, but there
Speaker 1: can I press up in like a costume every now
Speaker 1: and then because I'm big on like whatever you want
Speaker 1: this is. You know you want to see the authentic version.
Speaker 1: Well that's a big mess. I'm authentically a mess. So
Speaker 1: like if I like go into costumes or like you know,
Speaker 1: day of the week St Patrick's Day up for like,
Speaker 1: I'm really into theme. So you know, if I can
Speaker 1: do that, I'm all in. Well, yeah, we'll get the St.
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day special tomorrow. You know, people be fighting over
Speaker 1: your basically your rookie cards, your cameo first, your first one,
Speaker 1: so we should do I'll never forget my first on
Speaker 1: my cameo. Now, if that's how we get people. Stephen Glanes,
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Congratulations to you, to Devon and
Speaker 1: Martin on an incredibly successful company that's just getting started.
Speaker 1: Really a pleasure talking to you. Thank you. Awesome, Thank
Speaker 1: you guys. Love you both and so happy to have
Speaker 1: both you. The cameo, Aaron, it finally happened. Among the
Speaker 1: fourth anniversary. Happy anniversary. It's a big day. That's like
Speaker 1: pop the cameo Cherry Yeah, pop it welcome back to
Speaker 1: calm down, Steve Gohannest. He was awesome. I'm I know
Speaker 1: your mind is blown and my mind is blown just
Speaker 1: because we are part of this whole startups that suation.
Speaker 1: What'd you take from it? Well, I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: he's so likable that I had so many stories to him,
Speaker 1: like storytime with Steve it I mean settle in because
Speaker 1: every time he was like, I got a great story
Speaker 1: about this, I got a great story about this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and he's so I get it and I loved what
Speaker 1: he was saying. Aaron. Then it's like, there's so much
Speaker 1: bad in the world, like to be able to create
Speaker 1: something that sends positivity and like the story about the
Speaker 1: bride at the wedding, crying because her dad would have
Speaker 1: been sober. I mean, come up forget. I wanted to
Speaker 1: tear up because no, you know how much we care
Speaker 1: about our dad. So it's like, if we can, you know,
Speaker 1: just give our fathers or anyone we care about, just
Speaker 1: a little, like, you know, hint of something. I remember
Speaker 1: Ryan Rousillo or good Buddy. For his birthday, I had
Speaker 1: um three cameos um. One of those was Jack's UM.
Speaker 1: I had him from from Vanderpump because he's a closet
Speaker 1: Banderpump band and like Jack's did a video and like
Speaker 1: three minutes into the video, Jack's is like, hey over,
Speaker 1: so if you ever like want me to come on
Speaker 1: the podcast, Like, I'm happy to like this, I can
Speaker 1: turn it this whole thing. And it was great. But
Speaker 1: clearly the company has had success. The vision has come
Speaker 1: to Fruition, and I can't wait to see what he
Speaker 1: does with it. The one thing we didn't get into,
Speaker 1: and we could have talked for two hours, was they
Speaker 1: crushed it during COVID and the biggest reason was because
Speaker 1: everybody was out of work and they were willing to
Speaker 1: you know, make money, and also that was their way
Speaker 1: they could connect with the fans. Um I heard, you know,
Speaker 1: read different stories about guys that country music stars raising
Speaker 1: money for their bands and you know, just cutting cameos
Speaker 1: left and right. So um, he was, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the many companies that did crush it during quarantine,
Speaker 1: and good for him. I loved it. I I loved
Speaker 1: what he said about, you know, just staying true to yourself.
Speaker 1: And I think that has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: what we do for a living. Look, it's hard traveling
Speaker 1: on the road, living in hotels, taking four flights a week.
Speaker 1: You gotta love what you do, and we love what
Speaker 1: we do for our side hustle, for your interior design company,
Speaker 1: for house and home, and myself with where Uh. You
Speaker 1: gotta love it because we have so much on our
Speaker 1: plate right now that to have something else take up
Speaker 1: a lot of our time, it has to come from
Speaker 1: the heart and it does. This guy is awesome. The
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson story where he's like, are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 1: And it's like throws him on his laugh. That was amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was cool. Let me ask you somebody. I mean,
Speaker 1: now that I'm new to cameo, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: discover this. But why you know you get asked to
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. What was it for
Speaker 1: you about camy, because how long have you been on it?
Speaker 1: Over a year? I've been on it for a year
Speaker 1: and a half. So what was it about the platform
Speaker 1: that you're like, Okay, I'm willing to do that. That
Speaker 1: sounds like it's because you have to vet out some
Speaker 1: of these you know, odd requests. Yeah, and and that's
Speaker 1: the one thing that's I guess I need to let
Speaker 1: my hair down, no kidding in life anyways and have
Speaker 1: a little fun with them. And that's I guess how
Speaker 1: people have had success on cameo. But I always get
Speaker 1: a little afraid, you know, you just never know how
Speaker 1: people are going to use it. And it sounds like
Speaker 1: his team has vetted out the bad people and they've
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, made sure it's a safe spot
Speaker 1: for celebs and d listers like or F listers like myself. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just cool. You know. I love doing them when
Speaker 1: I'm on the field, like right after games, I try
Speaker 1: to pop out of people. Love that. Yeah, like, hey,
Speaker 1: just at the Cowboys game, but wanted to say happy birthday, Gina.
Speaker 1: And I get a ton of them for fantasy football,
Speaker 1: a lot of them because companies are doing their virtual
Speaker 1: like seminars like we do at Fox, or their awards ceremonies.
Speaker 1: Um I pass out awards. Uh yeah, it's a major award.
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