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Speaker 1: Calm Down with Aaron and Charissa is a production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. We are Back, Ladies and Gentlemen, Calm

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Speaker 1: Down Podcast. I'm Charissa Thompson. She's Aaron Andrews. And before

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Speaker 1: we started rolling, I already got my ears are hurting.

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Speaker 1: Were not with us on the last episode or saw

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Speaker 1: our socials? Aaron had her ears pinned back? What's wrong

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Speaker 1: with you? Now? Well, it is a little chili here

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I know you're in Tampa Bay right now.

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Speaker 1: It's chili, and I feel like I don't have the

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Speaker 1: heat on in here, and they are sensitive below sevent

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Speaker 1: dy degrees. That's something we didn't clear up. Plus these

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Speaker 1: earphones are hurting them. So yeah, I'm a headcase right.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? How do you ever work games where

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Speaker 1: you have to wear like the ear muffs and like

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay games where we see you all bundled up.

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Speaker 1: What do the ears do in those climates? Just fall off? No? No, no,

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Speaker 1: you always have to wear a two situation and I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing an I f B, which isn't so dramatic like

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Speaker 1: these headphones. But yes, once it gets past below seventy,

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Speaker 1: I'm in trouble. Like we were walking the dog yesterday

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Speaker 1: and it was really chilly, and I've forgotted to as

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Speaker 1: they like to say in Oh Canada. And uh, I

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Speaker 1: so again for those of you guys that didn't listen

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Speaker 1: to our last episode, Um, Aaron had her ears pulled

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Speaker 1: back in what were You in High School? I was

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Speaker 1: going into ninth grade. It was a really big deal.

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Speaker 1: Changing of schools. Yeah, changing of schools, ears pinned back.

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Speaker 1: Fun fact I didn't know about her. But one of

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Speaker 1: the many reasons we love this podcast because we get

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Speaker 1: to learn things about one another that we didn't know.

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Speaker 1: After a friendship of over ten plus years, UM calmed down.

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Speaker 1: A lot has happened. I haven't seen you in over

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Speaker 1: a week. Normally we check in and see each other

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Speaker 1: in person at least once a week. I am in Florida,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Tampa Bay. I'm down here visiting another

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Speaker 1: mutual friend of ours, Sarah Walsh. But Tampa is a

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Speaker 1: buzz and sister, your hometown is so excited right now?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, who didn't they signed back? We got

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Speaker 1: Lavonte David's back, Shaquillebert. Yeah, Well, Gronk. Everyone is back, Tom, Tom, Tampa, Godwin, Lavonte,

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Speaker 1: David Hello, back with Devin White. Yes, please sign us up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's rumors. My dad just sent me a rumor that

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Speaker 1: the Patriots may think about sending James White to Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy news. Yesterday Drew Brees finally retiring up finally,

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Speaker 1: from his kiddos? It was so cute, right, and of

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Speaker 1: course there was that very very touching moment the last

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Speaker 1: you know, you guys you worked that game on the

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Speaker 1: field where Tom Brady came back out of the locker

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Speaker 1: Brees and and his kids. A really touching moment through

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Speaker 1: his kid A monster passed like on the money. By

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Speaker 1: the way, did you see that one of these kids

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Speaker 1: tackled by his sister. It was awesome, so good. We

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Speaker 1: have a great podcast coming up today. Steven Galanis. He

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Speaker 1: is the co founder and CEO of Cameo. Aaron has

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Speaker 1: been trying to get me on cameo for what over

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Speaker 1: a year? Two years? I'm obsessed with it, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, Aaron, no one cares about whatever video. I said.

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Speaker 1: She really is going to try to recruit me. She

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Speaker 1: hasn't been able to close the deal, but maybe Stephen

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Speaker 1: can convince me. Um, with Aaron's help, because apparently you

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Speaker 1: get a Finder's feed. There's like a whole thing here

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Speaker 1: a whole lot more later on in the podcast. But um,

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Speaker 1: my father who because the Masters, you know, reconfiguration with

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Speaker 1: you know how that goes? Those guys once they have

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Speaker 1: to whisper my yiling um. So the Masters, you have

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Speaker 1: you surprised even to yourself and to Martin and Devon

426
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Speaker 1: about how successful this has been in such a short

427
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 1: amount of time. I mean, it's such an interesting question,

428
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 1: right because like, look, as an entrepreneur, and you guys

429
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: both know this from your other ventures. You don't start

430
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,199
Speaker 1: something if you don't think it's gonna work, right, Like

431
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: I absolutely thought it was gonna work. I quit my

432
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: job at LinkedIn three months before we sold the other one.

433
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 1: I just had that conviction and one question in particular.

434
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: For the last three months I was at LinkedIn, I

435
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 1: was telling everybody around me about this idea, and probably

436
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 1: half of those people work for cameo at this point.

437
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 1: Pretty funny, but I'll never forget. It was New Year's

438
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 1: Day seventeen and I was sitting in a hot tub

439
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 1: in Nicaragua with a bunch of people that I was

440
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 1: working with them, and one of them asked, They're like, Stephen,

441
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: this idea is like too good. Like if you don't

442
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 1: take this shot and you stay at LinkedIn and somebody

443
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: else builds us and it becomes a billion dollar company,

444
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: could you live with yourself? And the truth was the

445
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 1: answer to me is absolutely not, And I just had

446
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: to go. Like, mentally, I knew that this was my time.

447
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: Nobody had asked me that question before, but I knew

448
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 1: I had to take the shot and and look in

449
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: some ways, um, you know, despite how fast Cameo has grown,

450
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 1: Like I look at it, and to me, it's like,

451
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: why aren't we going faster? Like why aren't more? Like like,

452
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 1: I think that's just a natural thing. As the CEO

453
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: or an entrepreneur, you should never be satisfied with because

454
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: you know you can always do better, you can always

455
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: go faster. There's five million people in the world, including you,

456
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: that could be on Cameo that aren't right now, right,

457
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: we have so from my perspective, it's the top of

458
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 1: the second ending here, Like we've been off to a

459
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: great start, but we're building a company that we think,

460
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, has the opportunity to be revolutionary and in

461
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: the way that you know, talent and fans, interactive scale.

462
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: And it's also just such a fun company because like

463
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 1: we make people happy, right, Like, I think about how

464
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: much negativity there is and social and I've seen it

465
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: for both of you guys. You guys have been through

466
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: that ship that's happened online, like people doing stupid, stupid things,

467
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: leaking things, all that stuff. Like this is all about positivity, right,

468
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: It's like your biggest bends in the world getting to

469
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: go directly through them. And you know, there's a million

470
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: people in both of your d ms that like have

471
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: asked for this in the past, but because it's zero dollars, right, like,

472
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: you can't answer all of them, and there's no like

473
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: good way to open the d M up, Like you

474
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: open it up then they can talk to you. And

475
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: then even if you make that video for them, if

476
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: you take them out of your d M, then they're

477
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: like mad at you. It's like you might have that

478
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: have done it. So it's just been like a really good,

479
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 1: safe thing that works on both sides of the market,

480
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: and that's why it's gone as well as it has.

481
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: I think my mind is blown. I'm like jumping up

482
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: and down, like we're like doing a Tom Brady interview here,

483
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: So what crisis said. We're both in the middle of,

484
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, with these startups, and I think, like you said,

485
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, you're in the second inning or top of

486
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: the second with me, And I've discussed this with Kevin Hart.

487
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: My mind is always like this, and I'm trying to

488
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: like write it all down. I'm trying to push my

489
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: people for someone that has been successful in four years

490
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: with this startup. What are some keys here for you

491
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: know that we should be following or to deal with

492
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: all these voices in our head? Help me out here? Well,

493
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: Number one, I think it's about making sure that the

494
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: business you're working on is your e key guy and

495
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: ekey guys. This Japanese philosophy I've learned about from other entrepreneurs.

496
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: And if you were to make a vent diagram, right,

497
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: so imagine like a two circle VENN diagram, but imagine

498
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: one with four circles, so there's one on top, one

499
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: on the bottom, right and left. You need to find

500
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: the intersection of what do you love to do? What

501
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: is the world need? What can you get paid for?

502
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: And uh? And what I'm sorry, hold on, uh, I

503
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: can't believe a scoony key guy up right now the world.

504
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: You have so many brilliant thoughts you can't you really are.

505
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's what are you great at? What

506
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: does the world need? What do you love to do?

507
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: And what can you get paid for it? And it's

508
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: the intersection of that and for me, like I love sports,

509
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: I love entertainment. My nickname since Kindergarten has been the mayor,

510
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: I bring people together, like this is what I like

511
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: to do. And I think you just need to make

512
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: sure that your business is a real personification of who

513
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: you are, what your values are, what you're about, because

514
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: it's just too damn hard to run a company. And

515
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: if the company's mission and your own mission are not

516
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: like one and the same, or the values that you're

517
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, espousing and as a leader are not the

518
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: ones you live by every day, Like your employees are

519
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: gonna be like that's bullshit, Like you don't say, you know,

520
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: roll out the red carpet is a core value of

521
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Cameo and Steven. If you're not doing that, if you're

522
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: not that person that's always trying to make people happy

523
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: and bring them together, like it just doesn't work. There's

524
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: too much cognitive dissidence. So I just think it's all

525
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: about making sure you're doing something that like really fills

526
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: you up fully. I love all of that, And I'm

527
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: looking at all your accolades here. I mean, Time Magazines

528
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: fifty Most Genius Companies, Fast Companies fifty most Innovative Companies.

529
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood recognizes, Uh, you got you as the top innovator.

530
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: I mean, there's all these things that have come with

531
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: this idea, this authentic idea, and then you've put it

532
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: into action. What's next for Cameo? And I only say

533
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: that not because you're not happy with the current status quo,

534
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: but because you are that innovator. What is next? What

535
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: does Cameo look like to you in five years? Yeah?

536
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Well five years um so I think I think a

537
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: lot of people have also wondered, like the even what

538
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: is cameo really at its core? Is this social network?

539
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: Is that a marketplace? I believe we're creating the first

540
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: social marketplace, so then has aspects of like an ETC

541
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: or an eBay or Uber or door Dash, but it

542
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: also has a lot of the social aspects as well,

543
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: of like an Instagram and TikTok, and I think it's scale.

544
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: We have the opportunity to build the world's first social

545
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: marketplace that's not based on an ad revenue model. So

546
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: you know, like on Instagram or TikTok or Twitter, you

547
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: guys are creating content every day, you're getting famous and

548
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: you're getting distribution. But they take all the money, right

549
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: like they sell ads against the eyeballs that your content

550
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: is bringing. Aster. Because our business model has always been

551
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: talent centric, like we don't have to figure out, Okay,

552
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: we've got this golden juice, how do we pay and

553
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: how do we pay? Like how do we pay you?

554
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: So that's big and and really if I had to

555
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: like zoom all the way out, I think we're building

556
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: the marketplace for people's time for rex amount of money

557
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: A fan should be able to pay you or aeron, uh,

558
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: you should be able to pay to do why activity

559
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: was the person that you love? And the core cameo

560
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: is just the first of many different interactions that we're

561
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: going to roll out. Give me an example, So like

562
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: if somebody wants to go to a game with Aaron

563
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: that she's not working, Like, give me an example. Yeah,

564
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example. One of my best

565
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: friends from is Lance Thomas played for the New York

566
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: Knicks for a long time and Lance is an avid fisherman, right,

567
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: he's got He played for New Orleans for the first

568
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: couple of years and got set up. You know, he's

569
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: he's from New Jersey, like you know, six foot eight,

570
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: like big black guy from New Jersey and he ended

571
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: up coming down to New Orleans and befriended some fisherman

572
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: and now his life is like his fishing boat in Venice, Louisiana.

573
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: How cool would it be if you're a Knicks fan

574
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: and that you know also want to do and like

575
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: this is your guy. You go set with Lance and

576
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: like Louisian in Louisiana, go catch fish in the gulf.

577
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: Like these are the types of interact exactly right, but

578
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: like or I even think of you know, like one

579
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: that we're releasing right now is called Cameo Calls, which

580
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 1: is a v I P meet and greet product. And

581
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if the team's told you about it,

582
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: but you'll be able to say, like, hey, I've got

583
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: an hour right now, I want to meet forty my

584
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: fans for two minutes each. We're gonna have a FaceTime

585
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: like this and now we're gonna take a selfie together

586
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: that you can put on Instagram. So that's like one

587
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: of the next things that we're we're rolling out. Very

588
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: cool and of course you have the philanthropic arm of

589
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: this as well. Why is that so important for you?

590
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: Cameo Care is raised over a million dollars and how

591
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: does that work, Stephen? So we've always enabled talent to

592
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: do this for charity if they want to and uh. Actually,

593
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: one of the first big viral moments that we had

594
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: as a company was during Hurricane Harvey in Houston, and

595
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: we got dozens of our talent, like they were probably

596
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: only forty people on the platform I the time. And

597
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: I remember like Trey Wingo was one of them. He

598
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: had come on the platform and then ESPN like kicked

599
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: him off for a bit and now he's got But

600
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: the bottom line, like, we got all this talent to

601
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: come and say, hey, we're gonna match Cameo is gonna

602
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: donate a hundred percent of its earnings to Hurricane Harvey relief.

603
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: The talent. We're excited about it. They did it, and

604
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: and you know it was cool, like for a tiny

605
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: little company. I think we raised like forty grand or something,

606
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: but you know, we had like four employees at the time.

607
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: And from that moment, we realized, like, hey, charity is

608
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: something that you know, everybody can get behind. Um, you know,

609
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: people some talent like you might feel like, hey, I

610
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: make so much money, like I don't want to charge

611
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: my fans for something. But one of the big things

612
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: is that that we know is that if Aaron was Frete,

613
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: she would get books so much that she wouldn't be

614
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: able to do any of the videos. So the reality

615
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: is prices a necessary friction which enables fulfillment. And if

616
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: if she decides to take that money and send it

617
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: to a cause that she's passionate about, that's amazing. So

618
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Aaron, you get to set your own price,

619
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: right like we do, and I have so much I

620
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: need to ask you about it, but go ahead. CT No, No,

621
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: that's what that was my part. Like, you just get

622
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: to determine the price, which is great. Right. You're not

623
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, if you're this tire, you charge this much,

624
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: because that kind of puts you in a weird position. Aaron.

625
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: If you're like, I don't want to charge that much,

626
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: or I, you know, want to charge more or whatever,

627
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'll tell you a funny story about pricing um.

628
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: Because again we're creating a completely new market. So what

629
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: was the comp for a cameo? Is it like how

630
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: much you charge for an autograph a picture at a meeting?

631
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: Grade we had no idea. A funny story back in

632
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: when we were getting going, a max salary player in

633
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: the NBA came up and said, Hey, I want to

634
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: do cameo. But I make million dollars a year, and

635
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: I recently got paid like fifty grand to show up

636
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: at this kid's bar. Mitzvah, I think I need to

637
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: be like ten grand trader by background. So I walked

638
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: him through the map. I said, you don't need ten grand.

639
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: You make twenty million dollars a year. Divide that by

640
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: two thousand hours in a work here fifty weeks. Divide

641
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: by sixty and guess how much money you make per minute?

642
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: If you make million dollars per year, do you have

643
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: a guess you had to divide by two? I don't know.

644
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: You make two hundred and eight dollars per minute, so

645
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: carry the one. If you charge a hundred dollars or

646
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty dollars per minute, you can do two

647
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: cameos per minute. You can actually make more money per

648
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: minute on cameo charging a hundred a hundred fifty dollars.

649
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: Then you could being a max salary player in the NBA.

650
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: And imagining that mother in Detroit that wants to take

651
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: her kid to come see you play at a Pistons game,

652
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: it actually costs her more to buy tickets and parking,

653
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: and you know, sodas and and and everything hot dogs

654
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: to go see you play. Then you like wishing the

655
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: kid happy birthday, which way more well. Also in brand

656
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: is so important. It's got to help your brand when

657
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: you you have access. If someone you know loves Aaron

658
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: so much and she they want this video, it's like

659
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 1: they don't have to have that impression of you from

660
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 1: the bar, like, well what a batch Like it's like, oh,

661
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: I love Aaron, she gave us this video. So I

662
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: imagine it helps people's overall like appeal to absolutely. Um.

663
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: We all have interacted with so many you know, you

664
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: guys have interacted with the million talent. I have interacted

665
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: with the million talent. You remember those people that like

666
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: go above and beyond. And there's actually a pretty funny

667
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: story that I have in my family. So, uh, the

668
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: Lakers had just won the game the championship in game seven,

669
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: the Lakers were all in Hawaii like resting up after

670
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: like a crazy finals. I was an infant. My grandparents

671
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: were walking on the beach and they saw Magic Johnson.

672
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: And Magic Johnson. Uh, They're like, hey, will you take

673
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: a picture with our grandkid? And he said no, And

674
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: my grandmother dropped me on Magic Johnson's lap right took

675
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: My grandfather was a professional photographer, took a picture. This

676
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: is back in like the late eighties, so you had

677
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: to go to like twenty four hour photo, you know.

678
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: My dad drove across the island, tried to get it signed,

679
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: and Magic was like you crazy people like way right.

680
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: So it's been like urban legend in our family that

681
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: like Magic Johnson was like kind of a dick and

682
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't take him. But twenty five years later I ran

683
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: into him again. I showed him that picture, he signed it.

684
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: We had a huge laugh about it. But like imagine

685
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: if I had never had the opportunity to get in

686
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: front of him again, like for the whole life, my

687
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: family would have been like, yeah, Magic is great now,

688
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: but he was like pretty mean in this, you know,

689
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: in that situation, wouldn't take a picture with like a

690
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: seven year old baby. I think one of the interesting

691
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: there's so many interesting stories about Cameo, but I read

692
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: an article where you talked about you know, the Soup

693
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: Nazi and Brian I can't say his last name from

694
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: the office are crushing it, and you're like, look, it's

695
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: not really about the A list celebrities. You know on cameo,

696
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: which is great for me. Who's your dream celeb to

697
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: get on cameo? All right? So you guys will you

698
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: guys you got to kick out of this. Uh So.

699
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: I grew up in Chicago and and despite like doing

700
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: a duke, I'm actually a hockey player more than a

701
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: basketball player. I love the NBA, I love basketball, I

702
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: love football, love baseball. But like the black Hawks for

703
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: my team growing up. And I always say that if

704
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: the dream cameo for me, and only like the guys

705
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: that I played hockey with since I was like four

706
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: years old would know, this would be Eddie Bell four

707
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: because he was the black Hawks. He was the goalie

708
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: of the black Hawks when I was a kid. Like

709
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: that inspired to me to be a goalie played in

710
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: my whole life, Like that would be my guy, right,

711
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: But you know, outside of that, I think like the

712
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: obvious answers, like you could imagine like Obama or Arnold Schwarzenegger,

713
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Like there's just so oprah, Like there's just so many

714
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: like amazing people that could be on. But for me,

715
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: it's would be Eddie Bell four. And one of the

716
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: cool things about Cameo is like only my oldest friends,

717
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: and I guess now all your listeners would know that.

718
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: So Eddie, if you're you're out there, like comes comes

719
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: see us, you know, contact air and then she'll get

720
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: through referral. But at the end of the time, that's

721
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: what's kind of fun about CANDO is it's not just

722
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: about getting the video, but it's like picking out of

723
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: this list of all these people, how do I know

724
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: that you know ct like you really would love like expert,

725
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, ex person. Uh, and hopefully it's it's not

726
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because we need him on the Bears. Well,

727
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: we don't have enough time to get into that whole

728
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: specific situation. Um, but you mentioned the referrals. Okay, So

729
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: we're at the super Bowl in Miami and Troy and

730
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: Joe and Terry Bradshaw, myself and Aaron were all in

731
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: the room and Aaron and Troy are trying to convince

732
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Terry and I to get on cameo and I'm like,

733
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: no one. I'm like this is embarrassing. It's gonna be

734
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: like five dollars for a video, Like, no one's gonna

735
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: get cameos, And and Troy's like, you want the referral,

736
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: Like like this referral thing. What is this all about?

737
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: Don't give Achman your referral? Damn it, I'll be what

738
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: does it mean you're gonna get the referral? Uh So

739
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: one of the things that we found in the early

740
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: days was that the agents, of course, we're not helpful

741
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: at all and like getting this on. In fact, we

742
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: would pitch us a Cia and w ME and and

743
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: UT and everybody, and they just were like, oh yeah,

744
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: we talked to Aaron about it, and like she wasn't interested.

745
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: And then we would meet you guys in real life

746
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: and they never got to you. So one of the

747
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: things we realized was, well, all the talent on Cameo

748
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: they love they love it so and if instead of

749
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: going through like middleman, if we just have them tell

750
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: their friends to get on, like, let's compensate them for that.

751
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: And since the beginning, we've had a referral system where

752
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: every talent on cameras on the same financial split. It's

753
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: a seventy percent split to you to us, but in

754
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: a case where Aaron refers to you, you still make

755
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: seventy percent, but Aaron's gonna make five percent for one year.

756
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: And then Cameo makes and and she needs to be

757
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: a closer, She needs to be Trevor Hoffman and close

758
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: the deal here. Yeah, yeah, but this is but this

759
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: is just a thank you for the people that have

760
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: been there, done that, who love the product, want to

761
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: be evangelist, Like I never ask anybody to do anything

762
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: for free, Like I I deeply believe that, like you

763
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: should come in and and if you're helping us out,

764
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be lucrative for you too. And

765
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the biggest town we've ever gotten they

766
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: come from referrals. The funniest story that I like, one

767
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: of the funniest stories I have, uh Ice. He was

768
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: was recording in New York with Snoop Dogg and then

769
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: our old office we used to have this big monitor

770
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: that would kind of show the cameos as they were

771
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: coming up, and we look out on the monitor and

772
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: like Snoop is like in like making cameos within a cameo,

773
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: and creator on my team ends up texting, uh, I see,

774
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, you know, if you tell

775
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: Snoop to get on this thing, um you know, like

776
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: you can make the referral from it, and like you know,

777
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: he said, he told Snoop about it. About fifteen minutes later,

778
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I get a FaceTime from Snoop Dogg and the first

779
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: thing he says, he goes, Steve Cameo is brilliant. This

780
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: thing is awesome. You gotta let me on this so

781
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: we can billionize this ship. And I'm like, all right,

782
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: you're so good, say no more, Stephen. Can we this

783
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: is my one request from Cameo? Can we please get

784
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: a filter on it? Because I will say the one

785
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: reason why it's so true. But listen, guys like Troy

786
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: and Farv and all the guys, they just do it

787
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: with their baseball hats on, which I've done a few times.

788
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: But then you feel really bad odd when people are

789
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: people are paying you money to give them shout outs.

790
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't wear makeup that much, so can you give

791
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: the girl a top look like flawless? Filter? Here, I'm

792
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: just saying filters. I never met a filter like my

793
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: co founder Devon's right on the other side of that.

794
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: Tell them this is coming right from you and we

795
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: need to do this. But no, in all seriousness, one

796
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: of the really interesting aesthetic decisions we made early was

797
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: to prioritize authenticity over high quality, which was so like

798
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: you can imagine when we were getting started, people are like, well,

799
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: you need to do lights, camera action. You book Aaron

800
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: for a day, you know, get all the requests for

801
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: a year, like record them all here and make up

802
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: all that. But you know what's kind of fun is

803
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: like people like seeing the cameo like selfie video, Like

804
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: they want to see like, well, what's in that bookcase behind?

805
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Like what kind of like who are those two people

806
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: standing up behind here? My friends kids? The cardboard cutouts

807
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: like that. That's the things that are like kind of fun.

808
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: But we hear you loud and clear, and and actually

809
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: the one who it's hardest for is really like drag

810
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: queens are really popular on cameo, like it's a big

811
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: deal to get in. And as we're thinking about some

812
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: of the new things like the twenty four hour expedient bookings,

813
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: that's harder because like some of them would say, on Thursday,

814
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm going in drag and I need time to like

815
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: be ready to do this because I want to give

816
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: my my fans what they want, which is means not

817
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: me rolling out of bed. So we hear that loud

818
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: and clear, and we're working on but we could talk

819
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: to you forever. We know that you're busy and have

820
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of things going on, but just real quick

821
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: before we let you go, you want Russell Wilson, We'll

822
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: get your Russell Wilson. Okay, we forget that. How bad

823
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: I want to hear you tell Charissa why he should

824
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: be in Chicago versus Seattle. Are you like, I'm I'm

825
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: thinking this is going to go down? Don't let's take

826
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: do I'm just saying down. I was. I was. I

827
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: was pretty cool being um, you know, being at Super

828
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: Bowl this year. And one of my friends from college

829
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: is actually one of Brady's quarterback coaches, Daddius Lewis. He's

830
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: a longtime NFL player, and it was so interesting talking

831
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: to that about how Brady just coming in transformed everything.

832
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: This was a championship ready team and it just needed

833
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: that captain to come in and and bring it all together.

834
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: And I think the Bears, you know, are that they

835
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: really are one of those teams one player away like

836
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: the Bucks were, and uh, you know, I don't. I

837
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: don't think anybody. I think Russ also, you know, coming

838
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: from playing in Wisconsin, like he can handle the weather there.

839
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: He did a fantastic job at Camp Randall. And you know,

840
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: we'd love, we'd love to see him in a hat

841
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: like this pretty soon. We still we still, we still

842
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: need Russell in Seattle. Of course, Russell Wilson is you know,

843
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: once in a generation guy. You're not gonna just like handover,

844
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: but will be interesting to see how it plays out.

845
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Cameo a once in a lifetime opportunity that you created

846
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: and have seen it flourish and you're only four years in.

847
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: That's the scary part, man, you're just getting started. Well,

848
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: thank you, And the Seahawks are my second favorite team.

849
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: Special it's a very special team to Cameo, right. It

850
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: started with Seahawks fans. Yeah. If it wasn't for the twelve,

851
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: as I swear to God, we wouldn't be here today.

852
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: So um, you know that's so. I don't want to

853
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: take him from you that bad, but I love to

854
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: see I love to see a super Bowl. Hey, do

855
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: we want Stephen to give a calm Down Award? Crisa?

856
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, why not? So just to fill you in

857
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: case you're familiar, we hand out calm Down Awards on

858
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 1: this show. Kevin Hart told everyone they need to stop

859
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: being so sensitive. That was his Calm Down Award. Aaron

860
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: gave one out for the Golden Globes attire that we

861
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: saw a couple of weeks ago. So would you like

862
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: to give out one. You can give it to John

863
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Schneider and tell him to calm down and trade Russell

864
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Wilson to the Magic Johnson whoever you want. Yeah, let

865
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: me think about it. I mean, there's just so much

866
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: crazy stuff going on right now, but um, I think

867
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: I think my Calm Down Award actually goes out to

868
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: everybody on to jump the line for vaccines right now.

869
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: Like it feels like there's just you know, like I

870
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: loved hearing what President Biden side a couple a couple

871
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: of weeks ago about like, hey, by may anyone that

872
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: wants one, like they'll be able to get it. And

873
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: the data is so clear that like, you know, who

874
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: really needs to be careful and who would probably be

875
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: fine if they got it anyways, and like let's make

876
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: sure everybody that really needs the vaccine goes and gets

877
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: it first, because the cavalry is on the way, and

878
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully this summer we can get fans back

879
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: in stadiums. You know, I know we've been thinking about

880
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: l A super Bowl and like fun things we can

881
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: do around that, and so sad being at super Bowl

882
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: this year compared to you know, Miami the year before, Atlanta.

883
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Like I just hope that l A is ready for

884
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, like that's like the first party when

885
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: everybody's back and um and you know, let's get let's

886
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: make sure everybody gets the vaccines so we can get

887
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: back in stadiums and sports can be just as fun

888
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: as we remember super Bowl party. I'm I'm pumped. I

889
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: live in l A. So does Carrissa, Like we're all

890
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: host you like, let's go, let's do it. Let's see

891
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: what we're thinking about it. We were planning to do

892
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: it this year and then obviously that didn't happen. So

893
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: this will be our fifth super Bowl. And you know

894
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: Martin my co founder. I don't know if if either

895
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: of you guys have ever met him before, but he's

896
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: kind of our main guy that's in l A. Like

897
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: always just going around all the talent. I'll never forget.

898
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: We're in the Minnesota super Bowl. You know, it's so cold,

899
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: and there were like ten people on cameo and we

900
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: were going up to anyone big and it's like you

901
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, right, and then you fast forward

902
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: to like last year at Miami and you know, Troy

903
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: Aikman and Brett Farve and like all these It was

904
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: my dad's seventieth birthday last year, and I brought him

905
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and I don't think my dad really

906
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: got it until like Isaiah Thomas came up to and

907
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: was like, that is your son is the smartest kid

908
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: here because we all worked for him now and it

909
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: was just like they grew up in Austin on the

910
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: West side of Chicago together, like same high school and everything,

911
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and and you know my dad, like you meet in

912
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: your own Bettest and meet and Brett Farve and like

913
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: me and all these guys and and everybody to a

914
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: t saying like I love Cameo, thank you so much

915
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: for you know, for this. And then the funniest one

916
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: for him was Brian Lacker ran up to me and

917
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: gave me a bear hug. I've never met him before,

918
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: but I was wearing the Cameo T shirt. And it's

919
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: just like my wife loves you because it's finally forcing

920
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: me to like interact with the fans, you know, on

921
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: radio row and that was I missed that? And hopefully

922
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: we're back at Radio Road next year and and fans

923
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: are in the stands because that's what everybody wants right now.

924
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: Of course, Steven, approximately how many people do have on

925
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: cameo right now? We have just over okay, well just

926
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: over forty plus one. Consider it done. I will I

927
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: will finally do what you've closed the deal. I will

928
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: give Aaron the referral and again I'll charge a dollar

929
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: and I'll donate it all. I don't care, but there

930
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: can I press up in like a costume every now

931
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: and then because I'm big on like whatever you want

932
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: this is. You know you want to see the authentic version.

933
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: Well that's a big mess. I'm authentically a mess. So

934
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: like if I like go into costumes or like you know,

935
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: day of the week St Patrick's Day up for like,

936
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm really into theme. So you know, if I can

937
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: do that, I'm all in. Well, yeah, we'll get the St.

938
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day special tomorrow. You know, people be fighting over

939
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: your basically your rookie cards, your cameo first, your first one,

940
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: so we should do I'll never forget my first on

941
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: my cameo. Now, if that's how we get people. Stephen Glanes,

942
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Congratulations to you, to Devon and

943
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Martin on an incredibly successful company that's just getting started.

944
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Really a pleasure talking to you. Thank you. Awesome, Thank

945
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: you guys. Love you both and so happy to have

946
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: both you. The cameo, Aaron, it finally happened. Among the

947
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: fourth anniversary. Happy anniversary. It's a big day. That's like

948
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: pop the cameo Cherry Yeah, pop it welcome back to

949
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: calm down, Steve Gohannest. He was awesome. I'm I know

950
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: your mind is blown and my mind is blown just

951
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: because we are part of this whole startups that suation.

952
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: What'd you take from it? Well, I mean, first of all,

953
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: he's so likable that I had so many stories to him,

954
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: like storytime with Steve it I mean settle in because

955
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: every time he was like, I got a great story

956
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: about this, I got a great story about this. I'm like,

957
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: and he's so I get it and I loved what

958
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: he was saying. Aaron. Then it's like, there's so much

959
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: bad in the world, like to be able to create

960
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: something that sends positivity and like the story about the

961
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: bride at the wedding, crying because her dad would have

962
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: been sober. I mean, come up forget. I wanted to

963
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: tear up because no, you know how much we care

964
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: about our dad. So it's like, if we can, you know,

965
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: just give our fathers or anyone we care about, just

966
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: a little, like, you know, hint of something. I remember

967
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: Ryan Rousillo or good Buddy. For his birthday, I had

968
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: um three cameos um. One of those was Jack's UM.

969
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: I had him from from Vanderpump because he's a closet

970
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Banderpump band and like Jack's did a video and like

971
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: three minutes into the video, Jack's is like, hey over,

972
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: so if you ever like want me to come on

973
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: the podcast, Like, I'm happy to like this, I can

974
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: turn it this whole thing. And it was great. But

975
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: clearly the company has had success. The vision has come

976
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: to Fruition, and I can't wait to see what he

977
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: does with it. The one thing we didn't get into,

978
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: and we could have talked for two hours, was they

979
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: crushed it during COVID and the biggest reason was because

980
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: everybody was out of work and they were willing to

981
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, make money, and also that was their way

982
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: they could connect with the fans. Um I heard, you know,

983
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: read different stories about guys that country music stars raising

984
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: money for their bands and you know, just cutting cameos

985
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: left and right. So um, he was, you know, one

986
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: of the many companies that did crush it during quarantine,

987
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: and good for him. I loved it. I I loved

988
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: what he said about, you know, just staying true to yourself.

989
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: And I think that has a lot to do with

990
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: what we do for a living. Look, it's hard traveling

991
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: on the road, living in hotels, taking four flights a week.

992
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: You gotta love what you do, and we love what

993
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: we do for our side hustle, for your interior design company,

994
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: for house and home, and myself with where Uh. You

995
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: gotta love it because we have so much on our

996
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: plate right now that to have something else take up

997
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: a lot of our time, it has to come from

998
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: the heart and it does. This guy is awesome. The

999
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson story where he's like, are you freaking kidding me?

1000
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: And it's like throws him on his laugh. That was amazing. Yeah,

1001
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: it was cool. Let me ask you somebody. I mean,

1002
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: now that I'm new to cameo, I can't wait to

1003
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: discover this. But why you know you get asked to

1004
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. What was it for

1005
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: you about camy, because how long have you been on it?

1006
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Over a year? I've been on it for a year

1007
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: and a half. So what was it about the platform

1008
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: that you're like, Okay, I'm willing to do that. That

1009
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: sounds like it's because you have to vet out some

1010
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: of these you know, odd requests. Yeah, and and that's

1011
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: the one thing that's I guess I need to let

1012
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: my hair down, no kidding in life anyways and have

1013
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: a little fun with them. And that's I guess how

1014
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: people have had success on cameo. But I always get

1015
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: a little afraid, you know, you just never know how

1016
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: people are going to use it. And it sounds like

1017
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: his team has vetted out the bad people and they've

1018
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, made sure it's a safe spot

1019
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: for celebs and d listers like or F listers like myself. Um, yeah,

1020
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: it's just cool. You know. I love doing them when

1021
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm on the field, like right after games, I try

1022
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: to pop out of people. Love that. Yeah, like, hey,

1023
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: just at the Cowboys game, but wanted to say happy birthday, Gina.

1024
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: And I get a ton of them for fantasy football,

1025
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: a lot of them because companies are doing their virtual

1026
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: like seminars like we do at Fox, or their awards ceremonies.

1027
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: Um I pass out awards. Uh yeah, it's a major award.

1028
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: What a treat tree. More Calm Down podcast coming at

1029
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: you next week. As we tell you every week, subscribe,

1030
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: swipe up, swipe left, just like the podcast. Thank you

1031
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: for listening, and we hope to continue to bring you

1032
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: episodes that enlighten and educate and entertain and find me

1033
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: on cameo in a costume. Oh hell yeah and me

1034
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: is the first thing to do. I can't wait. And

1035
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: by the way, check out our graham for the kids

1036
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, I think we're putting up great content.

1037
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Nobody commented about my minute photo I put on the story.

1038
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Speaker 1: It's probably nor thanks by'all. Alright, So Calm Down with

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Speaker 1: Aaron and Chrissa is a production of I Heart Radio.

1040
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,279
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