1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to more Anita, a deep dive into the Latin 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: X experience. With more Anita, we want to create a 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: community and a shared space with you while sharing knowledge 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: and inspiration. This show is about celebrating our culture with 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: guests who exemplify the best of us. I'm Darrylene Gastillo 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Ethane Vito. Today's guest is Amy Martinez, a Bronx native 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: who grew up loving film and turned that love into 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: a career behind the scenes on Power God Friended Me 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: and most recently on HBOS And just like that, Amy 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: and I had a great conversation about what sets look 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: like today and how we can make them more inclusive. 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Hello Amy Martinez and welcome to Moranita. UM. So, just 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: so everybody knows basically how Amy and I connected, I 14 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: had the honor of being um a part of the show. 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: And just like that on HBO Max Um the New 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Sex in the City And my first day I'm on set, 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: I come on and it's so funny because I look 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: at Amy and she looks at me and it's like Dominican. 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: So UM, I just think it's like so funny how 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: that first day on set, it's like we had that 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: moment of like hey girl, hey are you are you? 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Are you Dominican? Is? This is this happening? And it's 23 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: just like so rare that we see each other on set. 24 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: So you did what for the show of just so 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: our listeners can get a get a vibe. Yeah. So 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: I was the first team helper. Um. I was essentially 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: in charge of like making sure that cask gets in 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: through the hair and makeup works, you know, it's dressed properly, 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: has everything I need. I'm basically like, you know, your 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: assistant and make sure that you have all the information 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: that you need. One set thread is buddy, you know, 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: get your coffee and get your snacks. Make sure you're comfortable, 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, shoot it up, like just shoot the ship, 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: as they say, you know, just talk a bunch of crap. 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: I do have to say that you we did. We 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: did a lot of that on set. We did. It 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: was fun and it was nice to have someone that 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: was like of a similar background because I feel like 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: sometimes I say jokes and they don't lamb and especially 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: in the Dominican culture, we have like so many random 41 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: things and so many things that we say and people 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: are just like, what are you talking about? And I'm 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna go back to 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: my hole now. And what was that like? What was 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: that like? Like? First off, was this your first show 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: that you've ever worked on? No, but this was the 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: first like big show. Um. The last show I worked 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: on was on Power Um Ghosts and that's a big 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: show too. Yeah, that was that was I can't I 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: can't lie, um, but I feel like every show I've 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: been on has been gradually bigger and bigger. Um. So 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: I did Ghosts and then I did Before that, I 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: did like Sitting on a Hill, and then I did 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: um some other show that was called God Friended Me 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: and that was about like Facebook and God. It was 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: really weird, but it was fun. And I did a 57 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: couple of days on Hustlers actually, and that was an 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: interesting experience. Oh really yeah okay, um, okay around, I'm 59 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: not being around. I'm going to circle back around because 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about some of your some of your journey 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: and like your path and I'm curious. So I know 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: you were born and raised in the Bronx, you know, 63 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: and um, how does how did you get on this path? 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: How did this happen? How did somebody like you you know, 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: land all of these things and like tell me your journey. 66 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: How did you get here? Um? Yeah, So, like you said, 67 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I was born and raised in the Bronx, and you know, 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: born and raised in the Bronx, I was really sheltered. 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: So I spent a lot of time watching television. So 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that sort of like open the doors 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: for me to like love you know, media and storytelling. 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: So I kind of when you say sheltered, you mean 73 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: like you're not allowed to go outside. It's like it's dangerous. Okay, 74 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: now now I'm understanding, because you know there's the opposite 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: in the in the Bronx, right where like the kids 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: are like running the streets and there's like that other 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: side where it's like, actually you're not allowed I'm out there. 78 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah. So I spent a lot of time inside. 79 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: If my mom didn't feel like going outside, we all 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: words side. So I spent a lot of time just absorbing, 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, American media. And just like I was a 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Disney kid, Like I grew up on Disney Channel. I 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: grew up watching like high school musical and all these 84 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: different like things are just like now are vintage, which 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: is so scary to me. I'm like, how is high 86 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: school musical? Don't be telling our age? Hearing done our Yeah. 87 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: So I watched a lot of television and I at 88 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: one point wanted to be an animator. But then I 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: realized that, you know, there's also disparity in the animation 90 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: world and that whole thing, and like being a woman 91 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: and being a woman of callers, I was like, wait, 92 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: what's an easier way to get into, you know, storytelling, 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: And that's I want to do cinematography for a little while, 94 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: and then I finally went to film school and I 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: fell in love with screenwriting. It's like, what if I 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: was the person that created these worlds? You know, I 97 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: grew up in I grew up in the Bronx, and 98 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: I grew up in an idealistic environment. So I wanted 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: to be the person that created the perfect world or 100 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: the perfect story. So that's kind of how I, you know, 101 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: fell into that. And then um, along the way, I 102 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: worked all these odd jobs and met like minded people 103 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: that wanted to do filmmaking as well. And I met 104 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: this one girl at Abercrombie and she was working background 105 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, I'm I'm a p a 106 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: now and do you want any p a days? And 107 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: she kind of just like brought me on and and 108 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: the first show that she worked on was The Detour. 109 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: It was like a TVs show, And I worked a 110 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: couple of days on that, and I did my thing. 111 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I networked, you know, you know me. I mean, I'm 112 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: very like personal. I kind of just went up like 113 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: yo was good, like literally like you from like you 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: from the Bronze. I kind of just like made my 115 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: way meeting people, taking people's numbers down, and like every 116 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: so often when I would have like a lull of 117 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: no jobs on sets, I would just hit up everyone 118 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I knew until I got something. So it's pretty much 119 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: just like who you know, and you kind of have 120 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to just be on top of it because if you don't, 121 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna work. You're not gonna work. It's you 122 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: don't ever apply. You don't apply for a production job. 123 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: You kind of just like hit up everyone you know, 124 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: like you do you know somebody on this? You know 125 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: somebody on this? And yeah, And so that's how I 126 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: got my start. And then eventually I was working as 127 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: a server and then I realized I was like I 128 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: don't want to be in my thirties and my forties 129 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: working as a server, like this is not the way 130 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: that I want to make a living. And I don't 131 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: not to say that it's not an admirable living, but 132 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: I just don't see myself doing that for a long 133 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: period of time. So I just eventually lit a fire 134 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: under my ass and I was just like, I'm going 135 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: to just do production full time. And I did it. 136 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: I just like left my job. Um. I did a 137 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: couple of days on Hustlers, and then I got a 138 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: staff jobs so like quickly on this random show GFM, 139 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: and then from there I've just been working production that 140 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: wasn't two So that was. Wow, that's a lot in 141 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: this short amount of time, especially like you were working 142 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: through the pandemic. I'm guessing I was off for the 143 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: pandemic and I actually, um, the show that I was 144 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: on GFM got shut down and we didn't even get 145 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: to finish our show. We didn't we I mean, I 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: got canceled during the pandemic, but we didn't finish our 147 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: last episode and we didn't get a wrap rap party. 148 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: We didn't get to like say our last goodbyes to 149 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: everyone on the crew. And that was a really sad 150 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: moment because we didn't really we were working for nine 151 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: months on this show and we didn't get to finish 152 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: with all the people we started with. So um yeah. 153 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: And then the first show that came back after the 154 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: pandemic was Power. That was the first show that was 155 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: shooting in New York City, the first one that like 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: started production and every exactly and that we were We 157 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: were basically the guinea pigs, like everyone was learning from 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: us how to run a show during during COVID. So 159 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: that was scary. I think that, like, well, something that 160 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: I want to I want to hit back to is 161 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: what was you What was the oddest job you ever had? 162 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: The oddest job I've ever had? I feel like they're 163 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: all kind of odd, but I would have to say, um, 164 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: I worked. I worked like the jingle Ball with Mariah 165 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Carey and Tell Me More, tell Us the Tea. It 166 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: was so funny because like, unfortunately, she was sick that day, 167 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: so we were all standing on ice for like four hours, 168 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: and I got sick because we were just waiting. We 169 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: were like, what's wrong with her? What's going on? It's 170 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: like she couldn't speak, like she had lost her voice, 171 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: and it was just like we were just waiting around 172 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: on the ice skating ring. They didn't give us any 173 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: of the tools to like, okay, don't don't stand on 174 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: this on the ice if you don't have any like 175 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: thick socks, Like we were all just like freezing. And 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I would say that was like my odest because I 177 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: never got to see her before, and it was just 178 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: like I showed up, I got paid, I waited around, 179 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: and then I left. I mean, hey, the check clear 180 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: to that, Yeah, is it? That's all that mattered. And 181 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: I got to be a Rockefeller Center with no one 182 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: on the ice, which I had never done before, and 183 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: I got to do it while I was getting paid. 184 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: I think something that's like really amazing is that you're 185 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: working on these I mean, you know, you named Power 186 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: being one of the shows that you worked on obviously, 187 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,239 Speaker 1: and just like that a Sex in the City reboot. Um, 188 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: But like, how are you feeling because those are pretty diverse, 189 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: those shows. I mean there's some diversity happening, you know, 190 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: like you're seeing more people like us, you know, coming 191 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: around and being a part of these productions. Um, is 192 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: that something that you've always witnessed like in your field? No, 193 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really honest. When I walk on to set, 194 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: the first thing I do is how many people of 195 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: color there are? And it's usually like ton set of 196 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: like there's usually like you know, there's several different departments 197 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: and there's probably one or two people of color out 198 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: of everyone else being what And that's what was refreshing 199 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: about seeing you on set and being like someone that's 200 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: on camera because I feel like, unfortunately with a lot 201 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: of these shows, they do make an active choice to 202 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: make sure that in front of the camera is diverse, 203 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: but when you look behind the scenes and the people 204 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: that are actually making the shows, like there aren't a 205 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: lot of people of color. And one thing that was 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: refreshing about and just like that is that, I mean 207 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: we both kind of saw there was a lot of women, 208 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: There was a lot of people under thirty, there were 209 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people of color, Like the sound department 210 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: and its entirety were black people. Like that's really freaking amazing. 211 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Like I was just so impressed with that, and like 212 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of shows that make that active choice, 213 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: like I was. The diversity higher on a lot of 214 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: like a lot of things, like I would show up 215 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: to set and I was the only black p A 216 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have no one to connect with. 217 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: I have no one like you know, and it's it's 218 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: sad sometimes because like they have all the like white 219 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: people have so much in common, Like you know, they've 220 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: gone to camp and they've gone to like I know, camp, 221 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: but like the most random thing. But I grew up 222 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: in the Bronx. Camp was not a thing. Wait. I 223 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: love that you just said that you're like white people 224 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: they just have so much in common, like they But 225 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: it's so true what you're saying, because I've felt like 226 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: when I'm that one person of color, I feel so segregated, 227 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: even from the conversations. Right, I'm like wait a second, Okay, 228 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Like like what you just said, like maybe something that 229 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: you have an experience that they have in their world. 230 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, I don't have any connection to that. Now, 231 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go sit in this corner at Crafty 232 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: and eat side. Right, It's like, oh yeah, my dad 233 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: bought a boat and we've gone, We've gone. I'm like, boat, 234 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: you have you got money? Money? Money? Okay. Like I 235 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: have this one friend, the girl that got that got 236 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: me into this, her name is I don't. I hope 237 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: she doesn't mind me shouting her out. But her name 238 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: is Phinis and let's just say she grew up on 239 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Eightis and Xington. That's all you need to know. That's 240 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: all you need to know. Like she grew up like 241 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: gossip girl, Like yeah, like I love her today. She's 242 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: she's a great girl. Like honestly, I wouldn't have been 243 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: able to do it without her. And it's unfortunate. That 244 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: not unfortunate, but it's it's funny that I've had a 245 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: white woman be more helpful in my career than I've 246 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of people of color to like I've 247 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: I've had experiences where I'm like trying to connect like, oh, 248 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: you know you're black, I'm black. We both grew up 249 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: in like inner cities, like and they're just like ha 250 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: ha ha, And then you text them and no reply. 251 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: What do you think that's about? I don't know. There's 252 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: still a lot of gate keeping, and I feel like, um, 253 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like, well, you're not my kind 254 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: of person, so I'm not going to bring you in. 255 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: But you know, I'll hit up one of my friends 256 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: and see if they need anybody. But it's like but 257 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, like, how about you help me 258 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: when you say when you say gate keeping, just so 259 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: our listeners can understand the lingo that we're talking about, Well, 260 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: you want to kind of explain, Yeah, I would say, like, 261 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, gate this gate keeping in the film industry, 262 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: and that pertains to you know, knowing the right people 263 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: and being the right kind of person and being, as 264 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: I say, the palatable black person, like you know, being 265 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: like like how I speak and how I grew up 266 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: speaking because I grew up watching Disney Channel. I talk 267 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: white quote unquote, and and that is palatable to a 268 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: lot of white people because oh she's intellectual, she's articulate, 269 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: she knows how to speak right. So she's the right 270 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of black person that we want to have on 271 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: our set. And as soon as someone comes in with 272 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: the do rag and their pants a little bit too low, 273 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: they're like, looks wrong with him, and it's like they 274 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: turned to me, or they turned to another person of color. 275 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, you should you should let him 276 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: know what it is, like, this is not how we 277 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: do it here. And it's like they're gate keeping because 278 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: they're just like keeping a specific kind of person out 279 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of gate keeping in the black 280 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: in black media as well as as white media. Obviously, 281 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: you have to be palatable when you're working in white 282 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: television or with a bunch of white people, but it's 283 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: also a thing in black television and black media where 284 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: they're like, you're not really like you know, really are 285 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: You're not really like you know. So there's a lot 286 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: of gate keeping in a lot of different areas. And 287 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: that's something that like when we were on set for 288 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: just like that, Like I don't know if you remember this, 289 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: but remember I turned over to you and I was 290 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: like that guy, the guy the boom guys Dominican or 291 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't know the other guy that that was back 292 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: that was Dominican also was it was yo, It was 293 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: blowing my mind. I was like, I have never felt 294 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: more like at home at home in New York City, 295 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: like my city. And I mean there's times where I've 296 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: come on set and I just feel like an outsider man, 297 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: and like I came on set and you were there, 298 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: and then I was like let me and you were 299 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: like yeah, and I was like what like and some 300 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: of these companies they just don't they don't understand, like 301 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: how much it matters when you see someone like yourself 302 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: being represented in other aspects of the team. You know 303 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? Um, It's so important, and it it 304 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: changes the conversation level, it changes the comfort level. And 305 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, I know that you talked about gatekeeping and 306 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: like the specific kind of person of color they're looking for, 307 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, So like, how do you combat with that? 308 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Because I saw you on set and you you know, 309 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: at least to the brown people and like to the community, 310 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: you made us feel so welcomed and I thank you 311 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: for that. Um, And um, you made it very easy 312 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: for me to do my job and smile and laugh, 313 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: which was my job. But like, how do you how 314 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: do you combat that when you're when you are the 315 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: only one? Like what is your way of getting through? Um? 316 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: I think one thing that I have learned is that 317 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: not everyone's going to like you. Um, and if you 318 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: do your job correct, believe that honestly, it brings people around. 319 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: Like I I work on this one show, on the 320 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: first show I ever worked on, and there was this 321 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: one assistant director that did not like me for some reason, 322 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, well, there's nothing I can 323 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: do about it. So I just went about my business 324 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: and I did my job. I did it right, and 325 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: I my my say always has always been work smart, 326 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: not hard. I'm not going to go around lifting lifting 327 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: heavy boxes if I don't need to. If I see 328 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: a dude that's not doing anything and he has a 329 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: pair of hands that he can help me with, dude, 330 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: your your lifting boxes now with me, and that makes 331 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: things work more efficiently. I always believe in working efficiently. 332 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: And on that show specifically, he saw me running around, 333 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, doing my job, like making sure everything was done, 334 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: and there was a moment where I was just like 335 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: sitting around on my phone and he came up to 336 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: me was asking me did you do this? Did you 337 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: do this to do this? It was like yeah, it's 338 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: all done, and he was like, oh oh wow, like 339 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: you actually know how to do your job and that 340 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: impressed him. And now he was like invited me to 341 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: work on his new show, which is only Murders in 342 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: the Building. But I was like, I'm going to take 343 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: a break. I need a break for December. But like 344 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: it's just stuff like that, like you need to make 345 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: sure that you know your job back in front so 346 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: that when people try to come at you with questions 347 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: like you're good, like you know what your job is, 348 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: Like you your job and your what you do and 349 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: your duties. That's all you need to prove to people 350 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: that you are worthy of being there. It's not like 351 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: because I I don't believe in ask kissing, Like that's 352 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: not the way I get jobs. I don't believe in 353 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: ass kissing, And there's a ton of as kissing in 354 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the industry, which I'm sure you know, um, And I 355 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: am a firm believer, and like my work speaks for itself. 356 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: If you don't like me, you don't like me, you know, 357 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: that's not my problem. But there are a ton of 358 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: other people that will be willing to work with me 359 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: because I'm fucking awesome and I know how to do 360 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: my job. So that's the only advice I would give 361 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: to people that are, you know, hoping to get into 362 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the industry is just know how to do your job 363 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: and work smart, not hard. Don't over extend yourself, especially 364 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: for you know, something that's you know, might not be 365 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: a career choice for you. Like there are tons of 366 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: people that a for three years, are almost ready to 367 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: submit their book and then they realize, oh, I don't 368 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: want to do this and I'm going to do something else, 369 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: and they just wasted their time and and busted their ass. 370 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: You know, not to say that you shouldn't work hard, 371 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: but you know, you should work the amount of work 372 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: that you feel is necessary for that particular title, which 373 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: is a production assistant. You're basically just getting coffee and 374 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: paying attention to the walkie. It's a very simple job, 375 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: you know. So I always say that you should work smart, 376 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: not hard, and people will recognize that. You know, if 377 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: you get the job done efficiently and you're calm, that's 378 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: number one. Stay calm because it can get very crazy 379 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: on set. And I think that that's something that and 380 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna expand what you're saying even more 381 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: because it sounds also to me like you're saying, if 382 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: you're in this position right, and you're and you got 383 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: hired for this position, like you belong there, there's no 384 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: need to And I think that's something for us people 385 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: of color, like when we're on sets and like or 386 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: when when we're at our workplace, we always think that 387 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: we have to go above and beyond, above and beyond right, 388 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: because what have they they've conditioned? You know, we I 389 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but like I remember my mom 390 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: and my stepdad, and my stepdad is African American, and um, 391 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: you know he raised me partially with my mom and 392 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: my father, and you know, my stepdad would always remind 393 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: me like, hey, you know, we have to work twice 394 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: as hard. That's saying, and it's you know, he grew 395 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: up in North Carolina, you know, and the South. Yeah, 396 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: in the South with extreme racism, and so I understand 397 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: that mentality. But I love what you're preaching here where 398 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: you're like, no, you don't have to work harder, just 399 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: be smart and how you're working. And and it's almost 400 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: like saying like you don't have to prove that you 401 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: belong in, that you got the possession, so prove prove 402 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: it through your work exactly exactly. And sometimes like people 403 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: be getting sassy and I give it to them right back, 404 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: like You're gonna don't come for me, Like just because 405 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm an assistant doesn't mean I don't know what's going on. 406 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Like let's for example, the other day, you know when 407 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: when when you change scenes, you have to move stuff around, 408 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: you know, you're moving cards, and so I told this 409 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: one Dude's like hey, you shouldn't be right next to 410 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: the door where set is because people need to get 411 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: in and out. And then he immediately snapped at me, 412 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: was like, well, the director needs to be close to 413 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: the set. And I was like, all right, all right, 414 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: do you think? And literally two minutes later, they started 415 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: taking out a wall on top of his car, and 416 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: I was like, if he would have listened to me, 417 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: you would have seen what I saw, and you would 418 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: have seen that they were taking out a literal wall 419 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: from the set and your stuff was going to get 420 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: dust particles all over it, and it was gonna get 421 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: wood chips all over it. But if you would have 422 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: listened to me, you wouldn't have had to move your 423 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: car and you wouldn't have to like clean all your 424 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: equipment now. But it's like people thinking that they're smarter 425 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: than you when you already foresee ten steps ahead. So 426 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: it's almost being like anticipating what is going to happen 427 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: on set, anticipating what's going to happen at the job, 428 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: and knowing how to go about it right, just being 429 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: aware exactly being on your ship. Open your eyes, open 430 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: your eyes, so um, I mean, we know that you're 431 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: a sick ass personal assistant, Like we get it, we 432 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: get it, we know, but um, I know that, Like 433 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: you're so much more than that, Like can you can 434 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: you elaborate a little bit more on what what you 435 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: would want to begin? Like what what are this personal 436 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: assistant position that you have had? Where does this now 437 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: take you, like into you and your screenwriting? Like what 438 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: are you learning through this journey to lead you into 439 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, now your screenwriting projects? Yeah, specifically what I 440 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: learned on the last show. And just like that, UM, 441 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: I love that there was a writer's presence on set 442 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: and I love that they had input. Um, I definitely 443 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: want to incorporate clothing and storytelling, um into my things, 444 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: into my like next projects. Um. And one thing I 445 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: really loved about this show and most shows is that 446 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: they pay attention to color theory and making sure that 447 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: the characters are including that mood that they're in and 448 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: her emotions. And so the next step for me, um, 449 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to get into the wardrobe department right now. UM. Really, 450 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: I love that for you. Yeah, And I honestly love 451 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: clothes and I love shopping and as bapid as that sounds, 452 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: I love clothing and I love clothing, clothing and storytelling. Um, 453 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: so that's the next step that I'm going to be taking. 454 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: So hopefully next year if they get called for a 455 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: season two or the designer of the show, Molly shout 456 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: out to Molly, she's so dope. Um, Molly is amazing. 457 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: She's so great, and she's an amazing person, and she's 458 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: just so warm, and she was one of those people 459 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: that really felt like I felt at home with and 460 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: it was just like one of those things where I 461 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: connected with her and I immediately told her. I was like, 462 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: I want to do wardrobe, and I want to I 463 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: didn't want to do wardrobe on any other show, but 464 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: I met Molly and just like her vibe and the 465 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: way that she takes her job seriously. I was just like, 466 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: I want to work with you. I don't know what 467 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: it's going to lead to, but like, I want to. 468 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: I want to work with you. So I am trying 469 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: to get into wardrobe now because I feel like story 470 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: telling and the way that the characters look and the 471 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: choices that they make are very important to a story. 472 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: So I hope to still you know, I'm still writing, 473 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: but I think taking a little detour in my career 474 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: right now is I think would be helpful to me. 475 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: I just want to let all these listeners know when 476 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: I went and got my costume fit for and just 477 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: like that, I was in heaven, Like I the clothing 478 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: on the rack, Like I remember they gave me this 479 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: like top that I was like, oh, that's not gonna 480 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: work because you know, I'm like girls have to sit right, 481 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. And in two seconds they 482 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: were like, oh, totally fine, and like they just pulled 483 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: out five different, amazing, beautiful options. I've never felt more glamorous. Glamorous. Honey, 484 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: they had Fiji water bottles. I said, okay, but that 485 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: whole team, like the wardrobe team was there on the show. 486 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: They were like they did that. They fucking did that. 487 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: So like because I've actually never heard you say that 488 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: about wardrobe that you like have a passion for that, 489 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: and so I mean I can totally see it too, 490 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: because like your style was I was trying to impressed. 491 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: I was like I was trying to get wardrobes attention, Like, 492 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: all right, do you see my fet today? You said 493 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: the sweatpants, you see these dunks, I'm wanting these, Thanks 494 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: for you guys, like I'm trying to be like you. 495 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: You're like, is there a plus one? Can I come 496 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: to the party? Can I be invited to the wardrobe pickout? 497 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: Adopt me? Please? But even so, like even in wardrobe, 498 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: like you don't really see many people of color right, 499 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: and on the show, they were everywhere. I was so impressed. 500 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: I told you, Like, when I was on set, I 501 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: was like, this is insane, Like I've never seen this 502 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: amount of brown people on a set in my life. 503 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: It was just like, um, I took a big breath. 504 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have to count on the set. 505 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's there everywhere. I don't have to 506 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: like check from my people. They're everywhere. They're surrounding me. 507 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Like Yancey, who was the Dominican crane operator. He was 508 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: the one that was like, hey, i'll see you, fit, 509 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: I'll see you. And I was just like a sense 510 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: of home for me because like we always praise each other, 511 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: we always like complement each other, you know, oh hell, 512 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: i'll see you fit, I'll see you And that was 513 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: like the best feeling. And so it encouraged me to 514 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: like dress fly every fucking day. I was like, all right, 515 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm aware of these dunks for Yancey today like this 516 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: fiance he's not he's he's one. And then all the 517 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: way people were like what sneakers are those? What are those? 518 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: And people were coming like you don't know what those are? 519 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: Those are sucking dunks, Like you need to like get 520 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: your ship together, like I don't know what you think 521 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: this is. And then like later on Tim Norman r 522 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: DP came in with some like air Jordan's I was like, okay, Tim, 523 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: I see you, Tim. I love that you coming off 524 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: of that show and having that amazing experience, Like what 525 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: do you think other sets, other shows need to do 526 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: in order to like keep that same vibe, like keep 527 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: that same momentum going well. One thing that I definitely 528 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: need in my life is people that are genuine and empathetic, 529 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than working a show or a 530 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: movie or something for eighteen hours a day and working 531 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: with people that you absolutely detest. Um. There needs to 532 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: be a little bit more um screening for people that 533 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: are genuine and are kind because there is a lot, 534 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of sassiness on set that I 535 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: honestly obviously as a production assists that have gotten the 536 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, the most of because I'm at the course, 537 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm at the lower end of the totem pole um. 538 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: But they definitely need to put more women in charge, 539 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: more women of color in charge, like a set run 540 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: by a first, a female first, a d I have 541 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: never like Ellen was a fucking rock star, Like I can't. 542 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: I can't emphasize that enough is putting more women and 543 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: women of color in places of power. And honestly, it's 544 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: you work more efficiently and you you women get you done. 545 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: Like it's it's a cliche, but it's not. Women get 546 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: ship done. Like we need more women and women of 547 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: color in power. Like look at the US the Ray, 548 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Like she got a fucking HBO deal and she has 549 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: so many things coming out, like she probably doesn't even 550 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: know what to do with herself at the moment, And 551 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: that's that's black women, like in power. We need more 552 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: people that are empathetic, and we need more women and 553 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: women are just I think, more naturally empathetic and know 554 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: what the deal is and aren't that's hard on you. 555 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of women in the 556 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: film and she I've personally had encounters with, I probably 557 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: would never want to work with again, But on this 558 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: specific show. There were just so many lovely, lovely people 559 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: and um, it was just like, honestly, it was the 560 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: best and the worst. The worst being because the days 561 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: were so long. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie 562 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: about that, but I don't even know how many hours 563 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: I worked a week. I think it was like eight. 564 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: It was crazy, crazy, the most I've ever worked in 565 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: my life, the hardest I've ever worked. But honestly, it's 566 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: the most rewarding because we got this beautiful, beautiful show. 567 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: Like when I saw it, I was like, holy sh it, 568 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: we fucking did that. Look how gorgeous these women are. 569 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: Look look at this lighting Like props again to Tim Norman. 570 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: He did that, Like he made these women look so 571 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: so good. I was just so impressed. I was like, 572 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: what the funk this is? This is crazy. Like I 573 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: was on set watching the dailies and I was just 574 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: like when I saw I edited together, was like my 575 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: mind was blown. I was like, wow, And he's such 576 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: a nice you and I. You and I were talking 577 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: about like how the show is going to maybe come out, 578 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: and like you just never really know, right, You're like, yeah, 579 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: well you know, we'll see what happens. But then when 580 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: you see like all the magic come together, you're like holy, 581 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: like you got and we got to be a part 582 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: of that. That's dope we did. I was just like 583 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, like like mind blown. I have no words. 584 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like wow wow. Um. Something that I really 585 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: think is fascinating about like your story is I mean, 586 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: you know you talked about being sheltered, um, and that 587 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: kind of like forced you to like look at media 588 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: as inspiration. Um. Is there something that like what was 589 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: the real spark for you that like was like, oh 590 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: I wanna I want to do this, you know what 591 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I want to get into this. And like, 592 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: was there a specific movie, was there a specific book? 593 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Was there's a story that really like changed your life? Yeah? Um, 594 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna sound corny, but honestly, um, watching Bugs Bunny 595 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: like that was the That was the cartoon I watched 596 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: the most as a kid, Bugs Bunny and Tom and Jerry, 597 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: And just like the comedic timing on those things, I 598 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: was like, that's fucking funny, Like whoever wrote that, It's hilarious. 599 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: And I wanted to give that same feeling to people 600 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: whenever I was writing something in the future, whatever it was. 601 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: But um, I was just really into animation and just 602 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: like how funny animation is. And like now, looking back, 603 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: obviously as an adult, you're like, oh, that's a little problematic. 604 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you shouldn't have been wanting that, but like that 605 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: stuff was hilarious to me, and I just that's what started. 606 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: That's what sparked me, honestly, watching watching animations and having 607 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: it broken down for me by my art teacher. His 608 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: name was Mr dufour Um and he was really awesome, 609 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: like he he he gave us a real lesson in 610 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: art and art history. But one of the most interesting 611 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: parts is when he broke down animation and like, okay, 612 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: and this is you. You have this one page that's 613 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: the reference page, and then you draw back and forward 614 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: and you do this and you do that. And I 615 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. And that's where I was like, 616 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: I learned about storyboarding and I was like, oh my god, 617 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: this is freaking awesome, Like everything is storyboarded. And that's 618 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: where I kind of like fell in love with it, 619 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: when he started breaking down the images and like how 620 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: you how you do something and how and I just 621 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: like to that. I just was watching all the behind 622 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: the scenes on all of my DVDs, and I was like, 623 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: I love this, this is what I want to do 624 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: for a living. And that kind of just like, oh 625 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: my god, remember behind the scenes stuff behind the scenes 626 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: on DVDs. Oh my gosh, Wow, what a throw back. 627 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: So that kind of just like sparked, you know, the 628 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: interests and like learning more about filmmaking. I was like, 629 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: I want to I want to absorb more. I want more, 630 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: and so that kind of just like opened up the 631 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: doors for me something that's really like inspirational. I think 632 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: about you and and everything about your journey is that 633 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: you are trying. And this is what I tell all, 634 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: like the kids that I mentor and or anybody that 635 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: I talked to about you know what, they're trying to 636 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: figure out what they want to do in this industry. 637 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: You are literally like doing everything, like you're literally like, okay, animation, 638 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: I learned about this, Okay, Now I'm like having this 639 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: journey of being an assistant, you know, on set, And 640 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: now I realized I love wardrobe and I love colors 641 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: and like learning about that, and I think that that's 642 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: something that's really important in life, right, like just the 643 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: continuation of learning about yourself too, and like we don't 644 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: know everything. We don't know everything, So it's I feel 645 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: like it's important, especially in this industry, that everything you 646 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: see on screen is a choice. Every single thing you 647 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: see on screen as a choice. And I love that 648 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: because you get to sit there as a director, as 649 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: a writer and choose what things you want on screen. 650 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: And that's why there needs to be more diversity, because 651 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: that's an active choice. Lack of diversity is an active choice. 652 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: So when you choose to cast a person of color 653 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: in a show or movie or anything, that's a choice 654 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: you're making and it shows people that you are making 655 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: an active choice for diversity. So that's why I really 656 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: want to make it as a filmmaker because I feel 657 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: like our community, you and I, our community has not 658 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: been represented. And I'm sorry to say, like I think 659 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: In the Heights kind of lacked that because it's like, yes, 660 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: there are Latinos on screen, but it's the same stereotype 661 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: that's been perpetuated for however long this industry has been 662 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: perpetuating Latin me up. And I feel like it it's 663 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: very important to make the good choice and the proper 664 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: choice and the accurate choice. Um in filmmaking, So I 665 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: feel like everything is a choice and you need to 666 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: make the one that's best for you, but also the 667 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: one that's accurate and the one that is going to 668 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: make the majority of people represented happy. That's it. I'm 669 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: only living my life with active, active choices now. Exactly 670 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: exactly nothing is but that's so true. Nothing is by accident. 671 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: What you see, nothing is by accident is a planned 672 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the actors and maybe something some beautiful 673 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: things happen in those moments. But yeah, like everything is 674 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: an active choice. And and you you hit you hit 675 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: it on the nail. Um, oh my god, I had 676 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: like three more questions in my bed and you literally 677 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: just said that active choice, and like it's ignited a 678 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: whole different portion of my brain working right now because 679 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: even yeah, and just like that, and um, and you 680 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: worked on Power to which is a very diverse show. 681 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: On top of that, Um, I mean at the end 682 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: of the day, like they're still not the majority, you know, 683 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: So are you making an active decision now now that 684 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: you've kind of worked on these shows and had these 685 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: incredible experiences, are you making an active decision to continue 686 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: working on sets like that? Is that something that for 687 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: you comes into mind because for me personally, like, I'm like, 688 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: I've been making active decisions and active choices on maybe 689 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: not auditioning for something that really like isn't gonna suit me, 690 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: or I don't really fit into the role like a 691 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: glove like you know, or it doesn't I don't feel 692 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: like I represent that. You know, are you kind of 693 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: like starting to make those active choices in the work 694 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: that you're like you're trying to do. Um. One choice 695 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: I've made is that I don't want to work on 696 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: set anymore. And that surprised and upset a lot people 697 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: that I was working on set with because I'm so 698 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: good at what I do, but it's not the lifestyle 699 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: that I want to continue to lead. Um. And in 700 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: terms of lifestyle, I mean working eighteen hours a day 701 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: and not having a life. Um. And not to say 702 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: that I don't want to work, but I don't want 703 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: to work like that where I don't have time to 704 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: do anything for myself, because I like that work life balance. 705 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: I want to be able to get home at like 706 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: eight or nine and you know, be with my boyfriend 707 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: or be able to like make dinner plans or something. 708 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: But when you work on set. That's one thing you 709 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: don't have. Um, you don't have the choice to be like, oh, 710 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to get out at nine, so I'm 711 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: going to make plans. No, you never know what time 712 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: you're finishing, even if the day started early. You you 713 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: should never expect to leave early. Like that's not going 714 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: to happen. Um. So one thing I did decide is 715 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to do a wardrobe, but I wanted to 716 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: start off as a p A and p A literally 717 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: just like helps organize clothing. Maybe those pickups and drop 718 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: offs and stuff like that where I'm learning, you know, 719 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: not on set and not in a super fast paced environment, 720 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: still having a sense of urgency, but not having to 721 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: freak out because the cameras ready and the cast isn't 722 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: you know. And right, Yeah, that was that was a 723 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: very it was a very stressful job, um for me 724 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: because I've done first team before, but I've never done 725 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: it to this caliber. It's it was insane. I learned. 726 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: I learned so much, but I learned that I no 727 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: longer want to be on set because it's not I 728 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: don't want to be in a d so there's really 729 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: no point for me to continue on that path. Well, 730 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're learning how to work smarter, not 731 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: harder exactly exactly. And um, I think, uh something that 732 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: kind of sparked me that you said that in December 733 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: you were you were asked to work on a job 734 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: and you said, no, you kind of want December for yourself. Yeah, 735 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: how are you? Um, how are you taking care after 736 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: going through that this intense schedule? You know? I remember 737 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: you posting on your social media like long hours you 738 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: would be working. And I'm like, oh, girl, Like I think, 739 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: can we can we go get a drink or something? Right? 740 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I literally can't. I don't know when 741 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to be done exactly. But like, now that 742 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: you're in this position where you're done, and I know 743 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: that you said that you turned something down, how are 744 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: you filling your cup now? Like? Because that to me, 745 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: that to me is like a mental health decision. You know, 746 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm gonna take a step back. I need 747 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: to regroup myself. And how important is that for you 748 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: for your mental health? Very very important. I'm trying to 749 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: get back the time that I lost, Not to say 750 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: that it was time lost, but I didn't have time 751 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: for myself. So um, literally just sleeping, eating, absorbing, um, 752 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: watching television is like obviously I'm a catch potato. I'm 753 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna say it. I don't care. Um, ain't nothing wrong 754 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: with that. I'm a homebody. I was. I mean, I 755 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: was raised as a shelter child again, so it's very 756 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: easy and for me to just stay at home and 757 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: do nothing. Um. But you know, I'm just right now, 758 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: it's only the first week. I we just wrapped on 759 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: December four, so this is the first week I've been off, 760 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: so I've honestly been bedding out. But um, I just 761 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: want to be able to like do me and like 762 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: whatever that is. Go for a walk, you know, maybe 763 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: start reading a book. Because I didn't do that during 764 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: a pandemic, shame on me. Um. But just you know, 765 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: get my nails done, you know, do my hair. Just 766 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: like self care and try to like self care my 767 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 1: way out of it and right you know, and right yeah, 768 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's really important in these moments to like 769 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: especially when you've been running on like yeah, like on 770 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: empty and then now it's like okay, you know what, 771 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: Now I'm in a position of power to like take 772 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: that month for myself. And like reset. I think it's 773 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: really important, especially in this industry, that we have those 774 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: moments of awareness. And I think that's that's a great 775 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: thing that you've tapped into UM for yourself, you know, 776 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: and coming into this new year. I cannot wait to 777 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: see like all the incredible things as you do next. 778 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to write with you. I cannot wait. 779 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: I've already can I wait for our projects? I know, 780 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: I know or like that's our that's our December. Because 781 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm like at these next three weeks, 782 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: I have like to myself before I start a new project. UM, definitely, 783 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm in that mode of like centering myself and re 784 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: regrounding yourself and coming into something new like what you're 785 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: about to be doing into wardrobe, and I wish you 786 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: the best. I cannot wait to see the things that 787 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: you create with that and also how that inspires your projects. 788 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: And that's that's the plan, honestly, because I, like I said, UM, 789 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: clothing is very important to a story, Like I think 790 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: that that's going to help me and my storytelling because 791 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: I love, I love just like putting outfits together. As 792 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: as funny as it sounds, I grew up playing Barbies. 793 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: So so it's it's like I played all the games, 794 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: you guys, I played every single game at all. So 795 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: that's just me playing Barbies as a grown up, you know, 796 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: expressing myself but as an adult and taking all the 797 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: things I did as a kid and just living out 798 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: my dreams as an adult. Um. But one thing I 799 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: can say for people in the industry is that you 800 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: need to take time for yourself. That's like the most 801 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: important thing. And don't be afraid to let people down. 802 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: And that's I think that's one of the major things 803 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: in this industry, especially people coming up like me, is 804 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: that they're they're afraid of saying no, or they're afraid 805 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: of saying the wrong thing, and that will get you blacklisted. 806 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: But honestly, that makes people respect you more because it's like, well, 807 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: she knows where her boundaries are, and I know what 808 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: her boundaries are, so I'm not I'm not going to 809 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: ask her again to work in December. She already said 810 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: that she's not going to work. And that's one thing 811 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: people need to learn and set your boundaries and make 812 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: sure people know what you're about. Like immediately when I 813 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: introduce myself to people and they they'll respect you exactly. 814 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: You gotta tell them like I'm not working weekends, I'm 815 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: not working on my birthday, I'm not working this Like 816 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: when they worked several saturdays on this show. I was like, no, no, Amy, 817 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: you might want to become a manager and maybe maybe 818 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: the negotiation skills are pop. I will absolutely not be 819 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: working on Saturday. I'll see you one day. Thank you 820 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: by literally. And that's that's such an important thing. Boundaries, boundaries, boundaries, 821 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: boundaries in this industry and in life and life in general. 822 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, after this pandemic, I love that, so you know, 823 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: it's very important. Yeah, I completely agree with you. After 824 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: the pandemic. For myself too, I had to really be 825 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: like Darylyn, like you don't have to say yes to 826 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: every project and just in just the format that they 827 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: give it to you. And I think the most important 828 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: thing to like, you know is I mean my my, my, 829 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: my new manager is amazing and she's like so great 830 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: at the at that whole moment. But that's what reminded 831 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: me of like your energy, Like no, like actually I'm 832 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: not negotiating my needs. I'm telling you are necessary, right, 833 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: necessary necessary things? And yeah, yeah, yeah, I go right ahead, No, 834 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: I said, as people have color, you and I need 835 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: to make sure that people know what we're about and 836 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: what we're going to do, and we're not going to 837 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: do like this is my contract, read my contract. I mean, 838 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure because you're you're in SAG or something. I'm 839 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: sure and you have a contract, you have something, some 840 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: things that are required, and I'm sure that your manager 841 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: and your agent negotiate those things for you. And you 842 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: know that's that's what needs to happen. You need to 843 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: put your foot down, that's it. Yeah, but it all 844 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: starts with you being you vouching for yourself. It all 845 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: starts with you making sure that you're setting those lines 846 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: and setting those boundaries, and you're setting that up so 847 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: you can do your job in the best way that 848 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: you can. And that's how you were able to show 849 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: up every day for work and kill it right literally. 850 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: So um Amy, here at mor Anita, we'd love to 851 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: ask our lovely guests an amazing question. And I'm going 852 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: to ask you what is your definition of home or 853 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: what makes you feel like home? What makes me feel 854 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: like home? Um, for me, it would have to be 855 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: a warm environment and good food. M M. What kind 856 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: of food obviously, and um, I'll work out there on 857 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: the side. Yes, the avocado salad, the little salt and pepper, 858 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: hell yeah, hell yeah. And you know, Mike Graccio from 859 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: the lady on the corner and once St Nicholas, um 860 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: from that corner only specific specifically that corner. No one 861 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: else serves good Mike Scio or that's that's where it's at. Um. 862 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just honestly, I think home is where 863 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: you wanted to be. And if you're surrounded by the 864 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: right people, the right environment, um, and you feel welcome 865 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: and safe there, that's home. And I feel like this 866 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: was the last job was my home. I love that. 867 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: I love that you definitely did make it feel like home. 868 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: You made me feel very included, You made me feel 869 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: like welcomed. I felt like I felt like I was 870 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: going to work there every day and I only had 871 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: two days of shooting. So um, it was a memorable, 872 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: memorable moment for me. And thank you for doing that. 873 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: And how do we continue following your journey if we 874 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: want to follow you on social media? Um? So my 875 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 1: Instagram is at amy pay me a m y p 876 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: A m y um. That's the best Instagram name I've 877 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: ever heard in my life, Amy pay me. Oh my god, 878 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: I said, that's that. Um. We love it, We love it. 879 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. I post all my stories all the time 880 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: so you'll be able to follow my daily life. Yeah, 881 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: and see what see amazing projects you start working on next, 882 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: the ones that you create. I cannot wait to see it. Amy, 883 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on That was so lovely. 884 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: Having it was a pleasure. Thank you. Active choices. Amy 885 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: talked about making active choices in film and in life. 886 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: That's what it's about, not going with the flow, but 887 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: taking charge of your life and your path, making active 888 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 1: choices for yourself and remember to work smarter, not harder. 889 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: Mona Nita is a production of Sonato and partnership with 890 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio's michaela podcast network. 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