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Speaker 3: I think that what we're seeing is states across the
Speaker 3: country are emboldened by what we are witnessing Republicans do,
Speaker 3: which is to make it more difficult to vote and
Speaker 3: to intimidate voters. So the Riverside County Sheriff, Chad Bianco,
Speaker 3: who also happens to be a front runner on the
Speaker 3: Republican side in the California governor's gouvenatorial race, is trying
Speaker 3: to seize more than six hundred and fifty thousand ballots
Speaker 3: under the auspices of conducting a recount effort.
Speaker 1: I believe he already sees Yeah, he did.
Speaker 3: He already sees them. I'm sorry, and I think that
Speaker 3: what is fascinating here is the Attorney General, Rob Bonta
Speaker 3: said that this sheriff has no probable cause for such
Speaker 3: an investigation. The court actually did not agree with the
Speaker 3: Attorney General. What I think this does is put people
Speaker 3: in harm's way. They are afraid about what is happening. Again, Andrew,
Speaker 3: you talked about a solution in search of a problem.
Speaker 3: They're going on looking for voter fraud, when in fact
Speaker 3: it says there have only been seventy one cases a
Speaker 3: voter fraud in the past thirty two years in California
Speaker 3: and those are voter fraud convictions despite California County more
Speaker 3: than eleven point five million ballots in November in the
Speaker 3: special election alone. So that, I think is what is
Speaker 3: an issue here again them being emboldened by the Steve
Speaker 3: Bannons of the world, by the Heritage Foundations of the world,
Speaker 3: by Project twenty twenty five that also deals with voting.
Speaker 3: So yes, what's happening in Mississippi and why this case
Speaker 3: was before the Supreme Court have everything to do with this.
Speaker 3: So from Mississippi to Cali we see this problem happening.
Speaker 1: So in California, just so that listens, all of us
Speaker 1: can let this sink in. A sheriff of a county
Speaker 1: is able to not off of a referral from the
Speaker 1: prosecutors office. Right, that's genuinely generally how a investigation out
Speaker 1: of nowhere thin air comes into formation because you don't
Speaker 1: just investigate for no reason. You investigate with the intention
Speaker 1: to prosecute and hold accountable people who have done something
Speaker 1: wrong or.
Speaker 3: Unless your intention is intimidation, which.
Speaker 1: Is who are guided by other intentions. That's extra, That's
Speaker 1: exactly right. So all I'm saying is that if imagine
Speaker 1: where you live, your county sheriff deciding that they have
Speaker 1: the power to go and seize the ballots of another
Speaker 1: constitutionally elected officer. Almost in every place, supervisors of elections
Speaker 1: are elected. Secretary of States in some cases are appointed,
Speaker 1: but many of them are elected going into that jurisdiction
Speaker 1: off of a right wing conspiracy that the votes that
Speaker 1: were tallied don't match what they believe the actual turnout
Speaker 1: numbers represented in that country.
Speaker 4: Right, Andrew the Attorney General not to cut you off,
Speaker 4: even said no, he said, please, let's let me let
Speaker 4: me investigate before you continue down this path. Let me
Speaker 4: see where these allegations are coming from, if it's even founded.
Speaker 4: He's like, no, I'm all sad, and no, I haven't
Speaker 4: talked to Trump, and I'm like, this is wild the
Speaker 4: world that we live in. Again, to your point about
Speaker 4: literally creating a solution for a problem we don't have,
Speaker 4: this administration is good for that. Maggan is good for that.
Speaker 4: I think of the trans issue in sports, there really
Speaker 4: isn't an issue. There isn't as if this is a
Speaker 4: big issue and trans boys are taking over girls' sports
Speaker 4: in high school and in college. But you ran on
Speaker 4: that like it was such an issue. These are not
Speaker 4: real things, and people are being sit in their mind,
Speaker 4: they're like, this is happening. One is too many? Five
Speaker 4: fourteen people who voted illegally? Is too many? Forty seventy
Speaker 4: seven people throw off these random numbers. It's just too many.
Speaker 4: And that's what's happening right now in real time.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious from y'all's perspective whether or not you think.
Speaker 1: And again we'll get to the Supreme Court cases. Is
Speaker 1: really important that we all stay abreast of this. But
Speaker 1: what do you think democrats forget Democrats lovers of democracy,
Speaker 1: people who value the rights that we have and want
Speaker 1: to see them expanded and not contrict constricted. How should
Speaker 1: we be talking about this if we know that most
Speaker 1: reasonable people but car you invoked this folks in the
Speaker 1: Bibles shop saying, what's the problem with you're being able
Speaker 1: to produce ID when we know it's more complicated than that.
Speaker 1: How should we be talking about this in a way
Speaker 1: that validates some of the reasonableness of the of the
Speaker 1: argument around identification with what is draconian and what they
Speaker 1: are doing as as repult. If we had advice and
Speaker 1: somebody was on the listening end of our advice, what
Speaker 1: would it be around how this thing ought to be argued?
Speaker 1: Innovated car. If you're talking, you're muted.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry my house phone was ringing, so I'm mute
Speaker 2: at myself. But I don't even know what we got
Speaker 2: no house.
Speaker 1: I'm impressed you got a house.
Speaker 4: I got some new headphones, good cars.
Speaker 2: Do you see what I go through? Do you see
Speaker 2: what I got through? I've actually talked to hr at
Speaker 2: I Heeart and they just said, they just said stick
Speaker 2: with it. I mean.
Speaker 4: R goes okay, Michael board Jordan's every man's name. His
Speaker 4: name is Andrew.
Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, all right, all right, anyway, So back in
Speaker 2: two thousand, in two thousand and six when I first
Speaker 2: read for office, ran against Thomas Road, who was eighty
Speaker 2: two years old, have been in office for twenty six years.
Speaker 2: And on election day at one of my biggest precincts
Speaker 2: in Denmark, we actually had two white guys pull up
Speaker 2: to the precinct in a pickup truck and they got
Speaker 2: out of the pickup truck with a shotgun and they
Speaker 2: literally just sat in front of this all black precinct
Speaker 2: for hours with a shotgun, like counting key. It's not
Speaker 2: open carry, but it's Denmark. Were close enough to open carry, right,
Speaker 2: we're open carry now, but at the time you had
Speaker 2: to have a license. But one about gonna bother them.
Speaker 2: It was that type of intimidation, that kind of overt intimidation,
Speaker 2: We're gonna see what up with physic I'm sorry, Nick,
Speaker 2: We're gonna mess you up with physical violence. Type of
Speaker 2: intimidation that we could see, and we just built our
Speaker 2: mindset to say that nobody was going to stop us
Speaker 2: from getting to the polls. Black folks always say, you know,
Speaker 2: we're going to overcome this. Whatever hurdle they put in
Speaker 2: our way, we're going to overcome this. So my first
Speaker 2: piece of advice is one that nobody's really gonna like. Right,
Speaker 2: The first piece of advice I have is begin now
Speaker 2: working for what the possible outcome may be. So with
Speaker 2: our seniors, with our older people. NAACP. By the way,
Speaker 2: shout out to Kristen Clark for being the new Announcements
Speaker 2: of News General Counsel of the NAACP, begin organizing right now,
Speaker 2: helping people get their papers for November of twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: begin working on what the possible outcome may be, so
Speaker 2: we're not scrambling in November doing provisional ballots and having
Speaker 2: all of these and a very consequential election tossed out.
Speaker 2: That's first and foremost. The second thing is we're in
Speaker 2: the middle of filing periods right now. In a lot
Speaker 2: of states, people are filing to run for office. We
Speaker 2: need to make sure that one of the biggest and
Speaker 2: most sexy races that people run for a secretary of state.
Speaker 2: You know, for a long period of time, we haven't
Speaker 2: focused on secretary of state. We haven't focused on judges,
Speaker 2: we haven't focused on Supreme Court justices. And that's coming
Speaker 2: to bite us in the ass Supervisors of elections, supervisors
Speaker 2: of elections, those things matter. And actually what we're seeing
Speaker 2: right now because of the West Coast is sheriffs. Because
Speaker 2: if the sheriff has the audacity to walk into a
Speaker 2: precinct and seize ballots, what is he doing On the side,
Speaker 2: He's probably sprinking a little coke on your son when
Speaker 2: he pulls them over for a minor traffic violation, right, So,
Speaker 2: I mean there is a direct correlation, trust me. So
Speaker 2: I just think that we have to begin to prepare
Speaker 2: ourselves for what the endgame is. Work backwards and preparing
Speaker 2: for an election, running for office, electing to people. And
Speaker 2: right now it's important for our local elected officials mayors
Speaker 2: out to all the mayors we love, but they're going
Speaker 2: to have to utilize their platform to raise their voices
Speaker 2: about this issue because they are closest to the ground. Mayors,
Speaker 2: city council people, school board people need to be teaching
Speaker 2: people about what the Save Act is. Of course you
Speaker 2: don't have a vote on it, but Randall Wolfin's voice
Speaker 2: is probably more powerful in Alabama than even those people
Speaker 2: who are federally elected. Frank Scott's voice in Little Rock
Speaker 2: is more powerful than people who are federally elected. And
Speaker 2: so I empower all of those local elected officials where
Speaker 2: we still have some success. Chris Hollins in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2: I mean, make sure that you're raising your voice using
Speaker 2: your platform so people really understand what the Save Act
Speaker 2: is when we talk about it and mention it. So
Speaker 2: those are my three kind of tangible things that we
Speaker 2: have to do to prepare for what is this tsunami.
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