1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media Welcome. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Home to the Natives. Yeah. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 3: I think that what we're seeing is states across the 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 3: country are emboldened by what we are witnessing Republicans do, 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: which is to make it more difficult to vote and 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: to intimidate voters. So the Riverside County Sheriff, Chad Bianco, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: who also happens to be a front runner on the 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Republican side in the California governor's gouvenatorial race, is trying 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 3: to seize more than six hundred and fifty thousand ballots 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: under the auspices of conducting a recount effort. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I believe he already sees Yeah, he did. 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: He already sees them. I'm sorry, and I think that 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: what is fascinating here is the Attorney General, Rob Bonta 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: said that this sheriff has no probable cause for such 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: an investigation. The court actually did not agree with the 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Attorney General. What I think this does is put people 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: in harm's way. They are afraid about what is happening. Again, Andrew, 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: you talked about a solution in search of a problem. 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: They're going on looking for voter fraud, when in fact 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: it says there have only been seventy one cases a 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: voter fraud in the past thirty two years in California 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: and those are voter fraud convictions despite California County more 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: than eleven point five million ballots in November in the 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: special election alone. So that, I think is what is 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: an issue here again them being emboldened by the Steve 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: Bannons of the world, by the Heritage Foundations of the world, 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 3: by Project twenty twenty five that also deals with voting. 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: So yes, what's happening in Mississippi and why this case 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: was before the Supreme Court have everything to do with this. 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: So from Mississippi to Cali we see this problem happening. 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: So in California, just so that listens, all of us 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: can let this sink in. A sheriff of a county 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: is able to not off of a referral from the 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: prosecutors office. Right, that's genuinely generally how a investigation out 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: of nowhere thin air comes into formation because you don't 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: just investigate for no reason. You investigate with the intention 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: to prosecute and hold accountable people who have done something 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: wrong or. 40 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: Unless your intention is intimidation, which. 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: Is who are guided by other intentions. That's extra, That's 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: exactly right. So all I'm saying is that if imagine 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: where you live, your county sheriff deciding that they have 44 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the power to go and seize the ballots of another 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: constitutionally elected officer. Almost in every place, supervisors of elections 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: are elected. Secretary of States in some cases are appointed, 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: but many of them are elected going into that jurisdiction 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: off of a right wing conspiracy that the votes that 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: were tallied don't match what they believe the actual turnout 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: numbers represented in that country. 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: Right, Andrew the Attorney General not to cut you off, 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: even said no, he said, please, let's let me let 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: me investigate before you continue down this path. Let me 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: see where these allegations are coming from, if it's even founded. 55 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: He's like, no, I'm all sad, and no, I haven't 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: talked to Trump, and I'm like, this is wild the 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: world that we live in. Again, to your point about 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: literally creating a solution for a problem we don't have, 59 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: this administration is good for that. Maggan is good for that. 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: I think of the trans issue in sports, there really 61 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: isn't an issue. There isn't as if this is a 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: big issue and trans boys are taking over girls' sports 63 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: in high school and in college. But you ran on 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: that like it was such an issue. These are not 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: real things, and people are being sit in their mind, 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: they're like, this is happening. One is too many? Five 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: fourteen people who voted illegally? Is too many? Forty seventy 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: seven people throw off these random numbers. It's just too many. 69 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: And that's what's happening right now in real time. 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious from y'all's perspective whether or not you think. 71 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: And again we'll get to the Supreme Court cases. Is 72 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: really important that we all stay abreast of this. But 73 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: what do you think democrats forget Democrats lovers of democracy, 74 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: people who value the rights that we have and want 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: to see them expanded and not contrict constricted. How should 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: we be talking about this if we know that most 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: reasonable people but car you invoked this folks in the 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Bibles shop saying, what's the problem with you're being able 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: to produce ID when we know it's more complicated than that. 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: How should we be talking about this in a way 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: that validates some of the reasonableness of the of the 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: argument around identification with what is draconian and what they 83 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: are doing as as repult. If we had advice and 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: somebody was on the listening end of our advice, what 85 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: would it be around how this thing ought to be argued? 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: Innovated car. If you're talking, you're muted. 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry my house phone was ringing, so I'm mute 88 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: at myself. But I don't even know what we got 89 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: no house. 90 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm impressed you got a house. 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: I got some new headphones, good cars. 92 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: Do you see what I go through? Do you see 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: what I got through? I've actually talked to hr at 94 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: I Heeart and they just said, they just said stick 95 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: with it. I mean. 96 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: R goes okay, Michael board Jordan's every man's name. His 97 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: name is Andrew. 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, all right, all right, anyway, So back in 99 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: two thousand, in two thousand and six when I first 100 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: read for office, ran against Thomas Road, who was eighty 101 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 2: two years old, have been in office for twenty six years. 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: And on election day at one of my biggest precincts 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: in Denmark, we actually had two white guys pull up 104 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: to the precinct in a pickup truck and they got 105 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: out of the pickup truck with a shotgun and they 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: literally just sat in front of this all black precinct 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: for hours with a shotgun, like counting key. It's not 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: open carry, but it's Denmark. Were close enough to open carry, right, 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: we're open carry now, but at the time you had 110 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: to have a license. But one about gonna bother them. 111 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: It was that type of intimidation, that kind of overt intimidation, 112 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna see what up with physic I'm sorry, Nick, 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: We're gonna mess you up with physical violence. Type of 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: intimidation that we could see, and we just built our 115 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: mindset to say that nobody was going to stop us 116 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: from getting to the polls. Black folks always say, you know, 117 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: we're going to overcome this. Whatever hurdle they put in 118 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: our way, we're going to overcome this. So my first 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: piece of advice is one that nobody's really gonna like. Right, 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: The first piece of advice I have is begin now 121 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: working for what the possible outcome may be. So with 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: our seniors, with our older people. NAACP. By the way, 123 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: shout out to Kristen Clark for being the new Announcements 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: of News General Counsel of the NAACP, begin organizing right now, 125 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: helping people get their papers for November of twenty twenty six, 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: begin working on what the possible outcome may be, so 127 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: we're not scrambling in November doing provisional ballots and having 128 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 2: all of these and a very consequential election tossed out. 129 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: That's first and foremost. The second thing is we're in 130 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: the middle of filing periods right now. In a lot 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: of states, people are filing to run for office. We 132 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: need to make sure that one of the biggest and 133 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: most sexy races that people run for a secretary of state. 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: You know, for a long period of time, we haven't 135 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: focused on secretary of state. We haven't focused on judges, 136 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: we haven't focused on Supreme Court justices. And that's coming 137 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: to bite us in the ass Supervisors of elections, supervisors 138 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: of elections, those things matter. And actually what we're seeing 139 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: right now because of the West Coast is sheriffs. Because 140 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: if the sheriff has the audacity to walk into a 141 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: precinct and seize ballots, what is he doing On the side, 142 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: He's probably sprinking a little coke on your son when 143 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: he pulls them over for a minor traffic violation, right, So, 144 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: I mean there is a direct correlation, trust me. So 145 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: I just think that we have to begin to prepare 146 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: ourselves for what the endgame is. Work backwards and preparing 147 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: for an election, running for office, electing to people. And 148 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: right now it's important for our local elected officials mayors 149 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: out to all the mayors we love, but they're going 150 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: to have to utilize their platform to raise their voices 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: about this issue because they are closest to the ground. Mayors, 152 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: city council people, school board people need to be teaching 153 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: people about what the Save Act is. Of course you 154 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: don't have a vote on it, but Randall Wolfin's voice 155 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: is probably more powerful in Alabama than even those people 156 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: who are federally elected. Frank Scott's voice in Little Rock 157 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: is more powerful than people who are federally elected. And 158 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: so I empower all of those local elected officials where 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: we still have some success. Chris Hollins in Houston, Texas. 160 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: I mean, make sure that you're raising your voice using 161 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: your platform so people really understand what the Save Act 162 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: is when we talk about it and mention it. So 163 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: those are my three kind of tangible things that we 164 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: have to do to prepare for what is this tsunami. 165 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: Reasoned Choice Medium. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, 167 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.