1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to a Friday edition of Texans All Access. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: It's our summer celebration, and it's the final episode, and 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: it is one devoted to head coach Bill O'Brien. I'm 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: your host, John Harris, football analyst and the South one 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: reporter for your Houston Texans. Glad you are with us, 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: and we've had a really good time. Actually, I've had 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: a really good time putting together this summer celebration. Not 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: a lot going on, nobody in the building this week, 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: so we decided, you know what, let's do a celebration, 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: if you will, of all the really cool things we've 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to do since since January. Really, we 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: talked to Deshaw Watson, Joe Webb, Brandon Wheaton, Sage rosen Fells. 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: We had our All American Dude Draft on July fourth. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: We talked to Brian Peters that day as well. We 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: had Brian excuse me, had Bernardi McKinney, Will Fuller. We 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: talked to our buddy Roland Ramirez. We had a snippet 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: of a podcast in Mark Vandam You and I did 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: called Stories from the Booth. But today it's all about 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: the head coach Bill O'Brien. Each and every year, Mark 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Vandemeyer and I have an opportunity when we talked to 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: ob you know, constantly and throughout the year. We do 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: it every single week we have the Coaches Show, we 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: talked to him, then then Mark has a chance to 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: talk to him on Friday. Is kind of a pregame 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: cursor that we have for pregame radio. So there's a 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: lot of different things that we have a chance to 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: talk to him about. It's all Texans related or even 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: in some cases NFL related. But every summer, right before 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: the break and our break is this week. Right before 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: this break and the players you go off and get 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: out of here, we have a chance to sit down 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: with coach O'Brien have what we call the Everything but 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: the Texans Radio segments, and it's one of our most 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: fun things to do because we hit on any number 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: of things. We asked him some wild questions. We try 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: and keep it in the sports realm as much as 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: we can, but I actually introduced him to a podcast 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: that he definitely has to hear, and you'll hear that 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: in this first segment on our Texans All Access Summer celebration. 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: It's head coach Bill O'Brien, everything but the Texans. Okay, 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: here we go with Bill O'Brien here the Hyunday Texans 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: radio studio. Coach. How's your supper going so far? Good? 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's um, you know what it is. I 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: mean I was just telling Johnny, I mean it lasts forever, 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: but it's great. It's fun. You know, they practiced for 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: two weeks before they start playing games. So they played 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: this weekend and we're looking forward to it. But uh, 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's interesting. It's a lot of fun. Though. 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Were you were in high school, did you play do 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: you play baseball? Yes? When did you guys eventually get 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: outside to be oh? Yeah, no question. We talked about 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: this all the time because there's a couple parents on 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: the team from the northeast, you know that have transplanted 54 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: down here to Houston. I mean you you didn't get 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: out sometimes till May, Johnny, I mean there were some 56 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: years it was snowing in April. So these kids, that's 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: and you know, it's funny you say that because these 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: these kids, you see the improvement in them, you know, 59 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: almost weekly, monthly, you know, because they're outside all the time. 60 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: He can they play year round? Yeah? Yeah, and in 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: the North. I mean, that's the one thing I realized 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: when I moved to Miami. You see kids in January 63 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: playing baseball. You think this cannot happen in the North. No, no, no, exactly. 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: I mean their literal league season starts here in February, right, 65 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean you, I mean you'd have to play in 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: the gym somewhere in Boston often, you do. Well, that 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: was when when I was when I was at Brown, 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: I remember the baseball team practicing in our you know, 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: mac The first time that they got outside to play 70 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: was on a spring break trip, and our spring break 71 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: was late it was last week in March. They would 72 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: go down to South Carolina play South Carolina and Wofford Clemson. 73 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: That was the first time outside all year. It just 74 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: get crushed by all those schools because they're like, we're 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: outside for the first time in late March, and even 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: when they came back it was still cold. Yeah. Oh 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: all right. So if you were a commissioner of Little 78 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: league baseball or youth league baseball, what are some of 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: the things that you might want to improve on, Because 80 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I know you're an observer and an evaluator, and you 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: can't help but evaluate some of this stuff. Anyway, This 82 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: is a hard question. I want to be careful. I 83 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: have to be politically correct because I have a lot 84 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: of friends over there that I will say this, The 85 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: dad's coach all the way through until the kids are thirteen, 86 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: and so it's a it's a dad coach deal. And 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the dad's obviously volunteer. And the commitment, the level of 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: commitment that they make to coaching their little league team 89 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. I mean it's it's seven days a week 90 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: for several months. And so I give the dads a 91 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: lot of credit. Uh, once they get to be thirteen, 92 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: then then and you know whatever, you would want to 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: call it, an independent coach, not a dad, begins to 94 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: coach them. And I think that's that's good, you know. 95 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: I think that when you get somebody who you know, 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: can go in there with fresh thoughts and evaluate the kids, 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: and and and it's more of a meritocracy, you know, 98 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: where a guy's gonna you know, play or not play 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: based on how he's playing, you know, I think that's 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: what happens. But I think, you know, commissioner or not commissioner. 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: I think the big thing about little league baseball is 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: if you can teach them the fundamentals, you know, how 103 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: to how to catch a pop fly, how to feel 104 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: a ground or how to throw, you know, the fundamentals 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: of you know, first and second, no outs, where where 106 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: you're going with the round, just like the fundamentals obviously 107 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: of hitting, you know. And I think that's the key. 108 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: And then teach them about a sportsmanship and being part 109 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: of a team. And I think that's the big thing. 110 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I really don't think it's all about winning and losing 111 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: in Little league. I really don't. I think it's all 112 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: about that when you get to where we're sitting. But 113 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I think at that stage, I think it's important that 114 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: they learn the other things before it's like we have 115 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: to win this game. If we don't win this game, 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: we're not getting dinner tonight. You know. I don't think 117 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: that's the way to go about it. Your big proponent 118 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: of kids playing multiple sports. Yes, yes, I think Johnny 119 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and I have talked about this before. I think you 120 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: I think that you know, each sport requires a different 121 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: level of conditioning, movement skills, hand eye coordination, all the 122 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: all the different things you know football, you know it's 123 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: eleven guys twenty two on the field at one time, 124 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: Basketball ten, baseball eighteen. You know, there's different rules of 125 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: the games and different skill sets that each game requires. 126 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: So I really I always encourage that. Ob one of 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the things that we saw come up in the NBA 128 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Finals this year, at the very end of game one, 129 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: j R. Smith forgets I don't know, doesn't know the score, 130 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't you know, he gets that rebound, he runs 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: it out. Lebron's mad at him. And it got me 132 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: thinking about game theory, game management. How valuable is that 133 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: for young kids to learn, whether they're playing baseball, football, basketball, whatever, 134 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: to go with the fundamentals. Uh, here's how you feel 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the grounder. But hey, you're down by one run. You 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: got guys at second and third, here's the kind of 137 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: here's the kind of ball you want to try and hit. 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: How valuable is it to learn kind of game theory 139 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: or game management and those kind of things at that 140 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: young and age. I mean, I think that's huge. I 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: think that's that's part of what I was saying. You 142 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you articulated it very well. I think I think that 143 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, after learning how to feel a 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: ball field, to pop fly, you know, how to hit 145 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: and all those things. I think then it comes down to, hey, 146 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: we need you to sacrifice bun here because here's the 147 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: situation of the game. I think that really teaches kids 148 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: about being on a team. You know, it's a it's 149 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: a team sport, and I think that's, you know, the 150 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: next stage of what they should be learning in Literal League. 151 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I love Literal League. I love watching it, and I'm 152 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: always thinking about how they could improve to help these 153 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: kids get better in Houston. Like we said earlier, these kids, 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: I just I'm always impressed at the improvement from the 155 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: time you know, Michael's been playing here since he was 156 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: nine to the time he's now twelve. He's just gotten 157 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: better and better because they can play all the time. 158 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: They're always outside playing baseball. So I think that you 159 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: see that improvement. But I think that's part of it, 160 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: trying to teach him those things. Probably haven't had too 161 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: much time to watch high school football in Texas, but 162 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: you've watched Sam and I know you'll early get out 163 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: here to the field and they have these playoff games 164 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. But when you look at 165 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: the evolution of high school of football. What do you 166 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: think the level of play now, because I see some 167 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: games on TV and I'm thinking, this is high school 168 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: especially in Texas. I mean especially in Texas, and we're 169 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: probably you know, obviously we're spoiled in Texas because high 170 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: school football in Texas is king. I mean it is king. 171 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: I even from when I was in college and recruiting, 172 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: there's no better state of high school football than in Texas. 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean because of the coaching and the amount of 174 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: kids that play football. And you know, I think that 175 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: one of the things that you see in high school 176 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: football now is um you know, it's it's a game 177 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: where the quarterback position is becoming more and more diverse, 178 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. You know, they can't just be 179 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: the days of just a drop back quarterback are really over, 180 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: you know. When it comes to most high schools that 181 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: I watch play, you know, especially when I watch them 182 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: out here, it's guys that can throw, obviously, but they 183 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: can run, they can do uh, some of them play defense, 184 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: play safety on defense. I mean, they're multiple type athletes 185 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: to play quarterback. And I think that's because of the 186 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: evolution of the spread. The spread part of the game 187 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: and spread is an interesting word, but it just means 188 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: that the formations are you know, more spread out, you know, 189 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: less use of a true tight end, more of four 190 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: or five wide receivers in the game at one time, 191 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: and the balls being thrown. So I think you'll you 192 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: see that a lot, and that's what we're seeing now 193 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: they go to college, and then when they get to 194 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: our level, you know, you're seeing more and more of 195 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: that when you were in college. I'm sure you're an 196 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: a ton of recruiting. It's changed, obviously with social media 197 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: and all that coming in play. But do you have 198 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: a story that you remember most from your days as 199 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: a recruiter, like one guy you got or one that 200 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: got away? Is there any story that stands out like, 201 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: oh man, that was crazy that you could share on 202 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: the radio. Of course, Yeah, no, I remember this is 203 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: from earlier in my career. I was at Georgia Tech 204 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: and we had a coaching change and I was, you know, 205 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: kept over on the new staff. So we had a 206 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: Georgio Leary was our coach. Everybody knows what it kind 207 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: of happened there, and then when he left, Chan Gailey 208 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: became head coach and I was retained, and so I 209 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: took over. I think me and two other guys were retained. 210 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: So I had to take over some of the recruiting 211 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: that had been going on, if that makes sense. So 212 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: I took over pac Man. And so pac Man was 213 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: from Atlanta City School in Atlanta. Was obviously a great player, 214 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: uh you know dB, obviously a receiver, running back punt. 215 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he did it all. He was unbelievable. And 216 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: he was coming to Georgia Tech. He was coming to 217 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. And I remember, hey, Chan, this guy's coming in. 218 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: This is like the first you know, I was an 219 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there, but you know, I had never worked 220 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: for Chan Gailey before, so you know, you're trying to 221 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: impress your boss, you know. So so we all gather. 222 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: That was when they really had started, as you remember, 223 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,239 Speaker 1: you know, putting the signing day stuff on TV. Yeah, 224 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: so here he comes out on TV in his high 225 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: school jim and he's decked out basically in Georgia Tech gear. 226 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: So here we go, Chan, We're getting We're getting pac 227 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: Man Jones. And all of a sudden he says, I'm 228 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna shock the world and he takes it all off 229 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: and underneath it. He has West Virginia at least looking 230 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: at me like my job. I called Colleen right after, 231 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: I said, I need to start looking for a job. 232 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna be kept here much longer. Now. 233 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: I have about five thousand other stories, but that's one 234 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: from earlier in my career. Now, you've coached against him 235 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: at the NFL. Have you guys ever talked about that. 236 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: I've seen him. I never, Yeah, I have, like after 237 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: a game or something. Yeah, No, I've seen him. We coached. 238 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: I've coached against him a lot, and so, uh, you know, 239 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: whether it was New England or here in Houston, and uh, 240 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: I never bring it up. You know it is, but 241 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: it's just, uh, it was pretty funny. Oh my gosh, 242 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: all the gear comes off. We had another guy. We 243 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: had one more story. Yeah, this is pretty funny. We 244 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: had another guy. I'm not gonna mention his name because 245 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: you know he's he was a great player and he 246 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: played in the NFL. And he was a receiver who 247 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: was from May's High School in Atlanta, and he was awesome, 248 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean fast, and I think at one point before 249 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, you know all that, he's probably the leading 250 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: receiver in the history of Georgia Tech are up there 251 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: in the top five, which is pretty good because there's 252 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: been some good receivers there. So, but so we're recruiting him, 253 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: and so you know, he was a kid that played 254 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: like in a wing te offense and everything was a 255 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: projection blah blah blah blah. So we weren't sure we're 256 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: gonna offer him. So so we said, hey, why don't 257 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: you come over to during this time of the year. 258 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: Why don't you come over to Georgia Tech. Will sit 259 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: down with you and your mom, we'll talk about Georgia Tech. 260 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: The kid shows up with a with a pillow case 261 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: fill filled with trophies. So he said, you guys don't 262 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: want to offer me in scholarship And he dumps all 263 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: his trophies on the floor and he's got like, you know, 264 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: his trophies from like the sixth grade all the way 265 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: through to his you know, he's going into his senior year. 266 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta offer this, just just on 267 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: that alone. We did offer him, and he went on 268 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: to be a great player at Georgia Tech. Oh that's good, 269 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's good. That's that's d that's creative. It 270 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: is still not Derek Evans, who has the all time 271 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: greatest signing Day episode. If you don't remember the name 272 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: Derek Evans, he was on the Dallas Carter team that 273 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: was featured in Friday Night Lights. He was the safety 274 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: alongside Jesse Armstead. So Armstead has one of those where 275 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: he goes up and he's got all his gear on. 276 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: He leaves the press conference, comes back and he's wearing 277 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: all Miami gear. Derek Evans is like, hold my beer. 278 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Derek Evans is in a hot tub with cycling gear, 279 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: you know, like a cycling spandex gear. He's got like 280 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: a mister T starter kit in a hot tub and 281 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: he's like, Yo, I'm signing with Tennessee. And he comes 282 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: out of the water signs it goes to Tennessee. Three 283 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: months later, he's arrested, spends ten years in jail for 284 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: armed robbery and never even got the ten Yeah, but 285 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: that's the best. That's the best signing is in the 286 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: hot tub up in nineteen eighty eight. He set the 287 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: bar nobody's ever passed. I'm very happy, coach, who's the 288 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: best college football player you've coached against? Because you coached 289 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: college football for a long time, so I know you've 290 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: seen a bunch of good ones. I mean, yeah, that's 291 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: a tough one. Um. You coached against a lot of 292 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: those Miami kids at the Gator Bowl, right, Yeah, I mean, 293 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I I mean we coached against you know, Vince Wilfork 294 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: was on that team. Dan Morgan the linebacker was on 295 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: that team. Webster. Yeah. Well, I mean a coach against 296 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: Braxton Miller Gayer State. Wow. I mean he tore us 297 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: up my first year at Penn State. Um. I mean 298 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: that's a hard question to say, like one guy over another. 299 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean if I mean, if you go back to 300 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: the great Florida State teams, Uh, the defensive ends that 301 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: they had throughout the years there that we coached against, 302 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Corey Simon on the inside, I mean we I mean 303 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to say, like, um, you coached against. Yeah, 304 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: it was one of the great games that year when 305 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: you guys played them down Tallahassee. Yeah, we played the 306 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: year before ninety eight. We played him down there with 307 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Joe Hamilton and we it was I think it was 308 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: like forty five to thirty eight. They beat us. We 309 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: were running the wishbone, we were doing all kinds of things, 310 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: but they had great players. It'd be hard for me 311 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: to say, like one guy over another. When we get back, 312 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: coach tells us who his favorite college football player was 313 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: all time. This one's pretty easy if you think about 314 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: where he's from and perhaps the greatest college player from 315 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: that place. Yeah, a little school called Boston College. Yeah, 316 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about. We'll talk about that next 317 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: right here on our Bill O'Brien Texans All Access Summer 318 00:15:40,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: Celebration episode. Right here. It has been a summer celebration 319 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: all week long, right here on Texans All Access. I 320 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: am your host, John Harris, football analyst and silent reporter 321 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: for your Houston Texans. So glad to have been able 322 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: to put this together. We have given you a little 323 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: bit of everything. Our interview with Deshaun Watson, Brandon Whedon. 324 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: We had a quarterback at Stravaganza on Monday night. We 325 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: did all to eleven drafts of offensive and defensive NFL 326 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: stars that went to Texas universities or colleges. We had 327 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Brian Peters on July fourth. We did the All American 328 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Dude Draft of course on July fourth, but Friday has 329 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: been reserved for head coach at Bill O'Brien and the 330 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: show that we do annually with him, everything but the Texans. 331 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: When we left you last, we were asking coach about 332 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: college football, So Mark wanted to know who was his 333 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: favorite college football player of all time. Who's your favorite though, 334 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: not that you coach necessarily, but your all time favorite 335 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: college football player? Do you have? What is it? Flutie 336 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: or I'm like, I'm like reeling it in here. No, 337 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: I mean I love Fluti, So, I mean I was there, 338 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: not there, but I saw him. Uh, you know that 339 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: that Miami pass. My dad and I were watching that, 340 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: you know. And what was that? Was that the day 341 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving up the day after Thanksgiving? So we're eating 342 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving left doors and my dad's the exact opposite of me, 343 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: like very low key, very not emotional. That's one of 344 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: the few times, other than when Fisk hit the home 345 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: run and seventy five yea, other than that, when my 346 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: dad just let loose like that was unbelievable. So and 347 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: and the year before we had gone no that year 348 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: they still played holy Cross, right and the last game 349 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: of the season, and we went to the Holy Cross 350 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: game at Fitting Field and there was a helicopter came 351 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: in to fly him to the Heisman ceremony. Right, that 352 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: was cool. I was, you know what was like twelve, 353 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: thirteen years old and it or something like that. So 354 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: that was that was awesome. U. So yeah, I mean 355 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: maybe growing up that was definitely my favorite college football player. 356 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: But now having coach college for a long time, I 357 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: have my own guys that I coached that my favorites, 358 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: which I wouldn't want to, you know, get into. I mean, 359 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: I had so many good guys at Penn State. Really, 360 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: to be honest with that, which was my first head coaching, 361 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: it'd be hard to put anybody over some of those guys. 362 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: You know. I always think that in this business the 363 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: people that you were a fan of before you got 364 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: into the business. Otherwise you get star struck over do 365 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: you find out? Oh yeah, true as well because you 366 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: have relationship with these guys. When the when the Super 367 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: Bowl was here, my wife and I were out to 368 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: dinner somewhere over here in Rice Village and uh and 369 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: the guy that we ran a restaurant or whatever came 370 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: over and said, hey, coach, you know, Doug Flutie's here. 371 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA, I gotta meet Dug Flutie. He 372 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: was like two tables over. This was the first time 373 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: I really ever met him. Wow. Yeah, I think I 374 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: had met him like briefly one time in New England, 375 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: but he didn't play in New England when I was 376 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: coaching there. I played like right before. So yeah, no doubt, 377 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: no doubt, that's a guy that you remember growing up. 378 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: It was cool to meet him. What was what's been 379 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: your best Uh, like meeting a celebrity or somebody recognized 380 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: your story kind of out of the blue, like maybe 381 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: somebody you you've known and they walked up to you like, Hey, 382 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, I'm such and such. Have you have you 383 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: had that kind of situation where somebody's introduced themselves to you, 384 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: or you've met a celebrity and I'm I'm laughing because 385 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: it's happened, you know, quite a bit. Which yeah, almost 386 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: You've known me for thirty years, so you know how 387 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: ridiculous that is. But but I met so we were 388 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: at LTMPO. Uh, I don't know a few years ago, 389 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: might have been the Super Bowl again during that when 390 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: all the stars were here, you know, And so what 391 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Colin and I are eating dinner and there's Rudy from 392 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: uh from the movie Rudy sitting right there, the real Rudy, 393 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the real Rudy, Rudy Rudiger or whatever is I mean, 394 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: it was no, but I really the people that I've 395 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: enjoyed meeting are like, uh, you know, meeting President Bush. 396 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: You know, you know those those types of people, and 397 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: then you go back and you you're researching and you 398 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: think about their lives, especially a guy like President Bush 399 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: talking about forty one who lives here in Houston. He's 400 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: he's an amazing guy. And so I never had the 401 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: honor of meeting Barbara Bush. Yeah, but I met President 402 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: Bush with mister McNair when when I first got hired here, 403 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: and that was very very cool. That was that was 404 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: pretty That was something I'll never forget. You mentioned research. 405 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: We know you read a lot, all right, So give 406 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: us a book you've read lately you really like, and 407 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: just tell us about it. I'm as you guys know, 408 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I read multiple books at a time, which is idiotic, 409 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: but that's kind of what I do. Uh. So you 410 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: have to read Bruce Springsteen's biography autobiography. He wrote it. 411 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: It's incredible. Have you read it? No? You guys got 412 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: to read it. I mean his life, his life and 413 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: the risks that he took and his family life, and 414 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's all in there. Driving cross country to 415 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: California from New Jersey doesn't work out, drives back to 416 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: New Jersey, you know, with bandmates, and yeah, I mean 417 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And that's just a cool, cool book. 418 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: And I'm also i started, uh John McCain's autobiography Restless Wave. 419 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: That that's I just started that one that that looks awesome. 420 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: And then I'm reading Nick Saban's fourth and goal that 421 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: Phil Savage wrote, so three that are on the Yeah, 422 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Well Savage is the color analysts for 423 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Alaban football like old, so he's around him. So yeah, 424 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: that was one. That's my Usten podcast at all, because 425 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: I got a good one for you. I got a 426 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: good one for you. Know. I don't you'll understand why 427 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: I tell you this. In a second. I heard about 428 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: these I don't listen. I mean I do I listen 429 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, our our website stuff sometimes just 430 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: to listen to what's going on. But but uh, but 431 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't really do it that often. Okay, Well, I'll 432 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: get you started on one. It's called Crimetown. Crimetown. It's 433 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: called Crimetown. It's like a twelve part series. And you 434 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: understand why I tell you this Crimetown putting it in 435 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: my notes here. It's about Providence and Buddy Sancy. See 436 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: he had to say reaction I did. I had two 437 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: people in this building that have told me I told that. 438 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: That's what I've said, Yes, I do. He used to 439 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: come to It's the only it was the only place 440 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: we had on campus that you could go to imbibe 441 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: if you will. That's the only place. And for my 442 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: first year, probably your first couple of years, it was closed. 443 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: And then they opened it back up and we would 444 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: go there periodically. And I remember going in there one 445 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: night and Rick Britten was there. Buddy and Rick was 446 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: in there was like, yo, Buddy's over there, and he 447 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: was there all the time. Buddy Siancey was the mayor 448 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: of Providence. And this crime Town tells the story essentially 449 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: of Providence, of the patriarcha family, and of Buddy Siancey. 450 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: And so I've gotten through part one. It's like twenty 451 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: five minutes an episode, and it's fantastic, Like I was sold. 452 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: Both Drew and Eric told me like separately, you got it. 453 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: You'll understand, You'll And I was like, yeah, Siancey used 454 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: to come to the Mayor of Providence, two time mayor 455 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: of Providence, the longest running he had once stint. He 456 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: went to jail, and he went to jail, and then 457 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: he came back and won again. He won a second. 458 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: You're probably getting out of jail. Yes, Crime Town, that's 459 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: that's that's one. I think when you're getting your interval 460 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: training on, that's probably a good listen. They've got all 461 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: kinds of the first episode. They had interviews, they pulled 462 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: stuff off TV, they had seance speaking at different things. 463 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: I think you would really enjoy podcasts because that's the 464 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: way you can get a workout in listen to and 465 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, taking time. So that'd be a good podcast. 466 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: And you're not listening to Texans Radio. Yes, okay, of course, 467 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: there's got to be a prior. I mean, I'll tell 468 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: you what though, you guys do a lot of different things, 469 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: which is cool, you know, I mean, I obviously you 470 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: two guys, but yeah, well it's funny because in this 471 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: business I always say this, we go seven months, the 472 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: ball is not even snapped and we talk about the 473 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: team for seven months. Yeah, and it's no game action. 474 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: I tell everybody that it's And I love the Astros, 475 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: I love baseball, but this is America's game as the NFL. Yeah, 476 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean people want this info. Twenty four seven, three 477 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: sixty five. You know that's the That's what this league's about. 478 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: Our preseason games outrated the Western Conference finals. That's great, 479 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, with respect about it shows it proves good point. 480 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: You were talking about dinner. I have dinner with Colleen. 481 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: You get a free dinner for four anywhere you want, 482 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: anywhere you want. You can invite three living people. It's 483 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: like having a foursome living people. Three living people, Okay, 484 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: living were dead? All right, you get all right, it's 485 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: a pretty big pool. Now you get three people that 486 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: you bring with you to a dinner. You have a 487 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: quartet at dinner wherever you want. Who you bring in? 488 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Who's your four? I would I would love to bring. 489 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: This will sound crazy to you in some ways, but 490 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: just because of the type of people, the diversity of people, 491 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: but I would love First I would bring Martin Luther King, 492 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: I would bring both President Bushes, and I would bring 493 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. Wow. That's what I would bring. And I 494 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: think that would be very cool to get all the 495 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: different perspectives on the different errors and the different you know, 496 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: all the different risks that all four of those people took. 497 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: And they all come from different backgrounds, have obviously different beliefs, 498 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: and but all four are very respected, you know, I think, 499 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: And well, that's what I would do. That's what I 500 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: would bring. I've never met h Bush forty one, son 501 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: um but forty three, and but I but I would 502 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: like to meet him. He's been here, I know. I 503 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: just feel like he'd be a cool guy. To Meeta 504 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: seems like a very funny, funny guy. So yeah, those 505 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: would be the four I would say. Excellent. All right, 506 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: let's get into some other sports here. You've mentioned before 507 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: that the US Open is your favorite golf tournament to watch. Uh, 508 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: you would like the Majors, of course, but you don't 509 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: get to watch the PGA seasons going on and Masters. 510 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: You got other stuff going on, draft OTAs. But US 511 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: Open you've said, memories of your dad and you watching golf. Yeah, 512 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: all right, so this past one was it ridiculous to you? 513 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Or was that good? Watching all the guys struggle and 514 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: some guys having trouble breaking eighty. Yeah. Again, I'm gonna 515 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: be honest about this with you guys, because I thought 516 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: it was awesome. And the guys that just said, you 517 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna figure this out were the guys 518 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: that did well. Brooks Kepka said, well, I'm gonna figure 519 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: this out. Yeah, I'm not gonna complain about it. I'm 520 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. And and he won, right the guy. 521 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I just have never heard so many complaints 522 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: about a golf course, like and I don't. Look, I'm 523 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: not a I mean, I can golf. I'm terrible, but 524 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I and I get it. But I mean, like, look 525 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: like this is the national Championship. This is what it is. 526 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: And so you're not gonna win twenty under. You're gonna 527 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: have to basically shoot even part to win. And that's 528 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: what Keepka did. He And if you watch Keepka the 529 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: whole time, like, I love watching these guys because he 530 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: really kept as cool. He never the last hole when 531 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: he hit it off the grandstand, I was like, oh, 532 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: he had a tough chip because it was like a downhill. 533 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, the green was sloped downhill from where he 534 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: was chipping man, he nailed that chip. There was that 535 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: part three two where he overshot. He gets it at 536 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the bunker, but he gets bogie. It was a big 537 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: bogie at the time. But yeah, you're right, he never 538 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: lost his composure. And I just I just thought that 539 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: that was awesome. And I love watching that tournament, you know, 540 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: just because of what we're talking about. I always think 541 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: that's probably the toughest golf course. And I mean the 542 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: rough that they had to hit. How about the one 543 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: where they were it was like Friday and they were 544 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: looking for I think it was Dustin Johnson's ball and 545 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: he's like, I know it's right here. I know it's 546 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: right here, and there's like twenty people around that ball. 547 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: It was texting my dad. I'm like, this looks like 548 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: us looking for our ball. But is that kind of 549 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: like the golf equivalent of a snow game? In football? 550 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, you have these games where and Joe Webb 551 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: played in one of those last year. You know, you're 552 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: Joe Webb. Where they could they're so like the game 553 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: plants throw it out, you gotta figure it out on 554 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: the go, you gotta figure it out. I mean, we've 555 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: we haven't had too many of those types of games 556 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: here since I've been here. But when I was in 557 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: New England, we had the game in Buffalo. We're sixty 558 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: to seventy mile an hour wins. We threw the ball 559 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: maybe eight times and they were little flat passes to 560 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: the fullback off of play action. We ran the ball 561 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: sixty five times and beat the Bills like thirteen to ten. Right. 562 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we had to change, you know, because of 563 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: the weather. And that was one thing that was probably 564 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: one of the of the thousand things I learned from Bill. 565 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: That was one of them. You know, like you just 566 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: have to be able to deal with the elements here. 567 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: It's hard because it's always hot here, so you're not 568 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: dealing with all the different snow and rain, you know, 569 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: weatherwise outside you know, you deal with rain, but in 570 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: plus the fact here you're playing indoors half the season 571 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: and then you know, then you're playing up at Indie 572 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: and you're playing other indoor games during the season, so 573 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: you're really not playing outdoors that much until later in 574 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: the season sometimes. But we this year, you know, I 575 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: think we go to the East Coast late, so we're 576 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to some elements. Got four of them, Yeah, 577 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: all together. Yeah, we're in Eastern time. I think the 578 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: entire road trip except for Denver and whatever, Nashville, I 579 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: think at that point, look, we can't help it. We'll 580 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: get back to the NFL and the Texans in some 581 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: respects every time we talk. It's natural with the three 582 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: of us to do that, but we tried to avoid 583 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: it if at all possible. But I thought it was 584 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: interesting story right there about that Bill told about spending 585 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: time with Bill Belichick, and I remember that distinctly when 586 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: I was watching America's Game A two thousand and three 587 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: on the Patriots and Charlie Weiss was the office coordinate 588 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: at the time, and he was interviewed about that particular 589 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: year and he said, look, we won games thirty seven 590 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: thirty four. We won games nine to three. He said, 591 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick knows the type of game you're playing in, 592 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: the type of game that you have to play to 593 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: win that game. And I thought it was it was 594 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: on point. Whenever I think of teams, I think of 595 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: that comment that Charlie made in that obviously was what 596 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: coach O'Brien was talking about right there. Now, when we 597 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: get back team versus individual, I framed a question to 598 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: coach in such a way that it tells you a 599 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: little bit more about coach being team person versus individuals. 600 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Rather win a team award or rather win an individual championship. 601 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: Talk about that next right here in Texans All Access, 602 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: a Summer Celebration with Bill O'Brien. We've got one final 603 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: segment of our summer celebration right here on Texans All Access. 604 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris Football and also Sython Reporter, 605 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: and all week we've been replaying some of the great 606 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: stuff we have been providing for you throughout this entire offseason. 607 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, we've had interviews with all the quarterbacks, Watson, Webb, 608 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: we Savee Rosenfels, we had Ultimate eleven Draft, we had 609 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: an All American Dude Draft. We had Roland Ramirez who 610 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: has rehabbed some of the best and brightest in this building. 611 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: But this Friday show is dedicated to our everything but 612 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: the Texans Radio Hour with Bill O'Brien, and we've been 613 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: playing that interview for you essentially in its entirety, nothing 614 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: cut from it, just cut up into three different segments. Now, 615 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: I start off this third segment with Coach asking a 616 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: question that I think a lot of people have gotten 617 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: over time. And growing up I always I participated in 618 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: both individual and team sports. I did track and field, 619 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: played golf, but then when I got to high school, 620 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: I played three team sports, football, basketball, baseball, and I 621 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: always got more joy out of winning a team sport event, 622 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: whether it was game, championship, whatever tournament, whatever the case 623 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: might be. I always loved being in those team environments. 624 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that was just that was just me. 625 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Now I know there are some that don't feel that way, 626 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: would rather win an individual tournament. They're golfers, tennis players, 627 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. And so I decided to 628 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: ask coach, knowing full well what I imagined his answer 629 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: would be. We had talked a lot of US Open, 630 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: and so I figured, you know what, why not build 631 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: that into this question, and so I asked him in 632 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: either a question to start our conversation in segment three, 633 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: So you're talking about the US Open. So I've always 634 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: wondered this because I played on teams my entire life, 635 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: but I've always said, you know, winning an individual award 636 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: would be pretty cool. So you can win one, either 637 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: the US Open or you can win a World Series, 638 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: which one would you rather win? I'm so, I'm a 639 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: team sport guy, so I'm gonna say the World Series, 640 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: like I went, and I know this wasn't the World Series, 641 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: but I went to the Astros the other night when 642 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: Bregman hit the walk off double off the wall. Ye, 643 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: the way that those guys celebrated winning that game, like 644 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: and chills, you know down my spine. I just envisioned, 645 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, our team Fairburn kicking a winning field goal, 646 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Watson throwing a winning touchdown. Yeah, you know, I just 647 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: envisioned our team doing something like that. I just I 648 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: just love that about the team sports. I think when 649 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: you win a championship, I remember, like the guys, so, 650 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: I've been to two Super Bowls, lost them both. Nothing 651 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: worse than that, really, nothing worse than that. But that's 652 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: what Charlie casually said they lost the Raiders. He said, 653 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing worse off and you'd rather lose the AC champion. 654 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: It's not good. So I don't know if I'd go 655 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: that far. I mean, the experience of being in the 656 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl is great and all that. But but anyways, 657 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: when the guys that were on our team that had 658 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: won championships, those teams have a bond that will never 659 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: be broken him. You know we have. I have a 660 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: bond with a lot of guys here, you know, just 661 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: from coaching them and and working hard with them and 662 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: all coaches, m players, you know that we'll stay the 663 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: rest of our lives. Like, yeah, I get that, but 664 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think a championship team that bond has 665 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: never broken, that that that that team has brought back 666 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: for reunions every year or every five years. And you 667 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: can only imagine what that would be like in Houston, 668 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: as you guys know. So, um, I think the World Series. 669 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: I would vote for that over over US open all right, 670 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: sports on television, after you've won multiple Super Bowls and 671 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: decide to hang them up, you could be a television 672 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: commentator in a studio setting or in the broadcast booth 673 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: doing games. What would you do because obviously two very 674 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: different things. What do you think you'd want to do? So, 675 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: I think what you noticed he didn't say play by 676 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: play man either, You're not gonna keep that in mind? Yeah, 677 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that one of the things 678 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: that you know, way down the road that I would 679 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: love to do. And I used to talk to Matt 680 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: Millen about this at Penn State was to do, like, 681 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, to try to educate the fans on the game. 682 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: You know, so maybe one of those deals where you're drawn. 683 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: I remember watching like whether it was Rudin or I 684 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: remember another guy, Eric Mangini, did a good job of this, 685 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, explaining what happened on that play, you know, 686 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: like Johnny and I do sometimes during the season. You know, 687 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: I think that's where if you could really like teach 688 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: the fan, you know, kind of what's going on in 689 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: the game, right I would love to do that. Being 690 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: a studio analyst or being a color commentary I think 691 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: that's great, but I don't think I would be. I 692 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't be any good at that. So it's like you 693 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: and Greg co Sell or something doing NFL matchup, Yeah, 694 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: something like that, you know, when you're explaining, hey, look, 695 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: this is what this team's trying to do, and this 696 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: is what I remember. Obviously, I used to get mad 697 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: because I would see whether it's Houston or New England, 698 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: they would put like last year with Watson. You know, 699 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: you'd see those those types of shows on one of 700 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: those channels, and and they'd be dissecting our you know, 701 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: a couple of our plays. I'm like, yeah, that's what 702 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: we're trying to do. You know, You're like, Jesus stop, 703 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: can we stop doing that? But I thought that. But 704 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: I think that's good though. I think that educates the 705 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: fan on what they're looking at. So was it surprising 706 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: having gone through some production meetings the last few years 707 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: that Gruden went back to coaching? And I asked that 708 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: because when you're away from coaching, some people I don't 709 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: think understand this. They're like, why would a guy go 710 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: back to coaching? Why would he go back to coaching. 711 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, when coaching, when you get the bug, 712 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: you'll it's never gone. Are you surprised at all that 713 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: Gruden went back to the Raiders? No, Um, he being 714 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: in a booth. When you've coached like he did at 715 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: the highest level on a super Bowl, it's your game 716 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: day is not the same, you know, And it's in 717 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: preparation and kind of getting in there and grinding it 718 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: out with the players and then winning games. Like there's 719 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: no once you've done it. Once you've had that, like 720 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: you said, that's in your blood, it's hard to it's 721 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: hard to give it up, you know. He was away 722 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: from it for whatever ten years, and now he's back 723 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: into it. You know. He Uh, he's a great guy. 724 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed talking to him, and I think he'll 725 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: do a great job there. So yeah, I was in 726 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: his blood. I'm sure he missed the the competition, the 727 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: game day calling plays, all the things that watching tape, 728 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: getting guys ready to play. But he missed it, all right. 729 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: A few quick ones here, Texas Barbecue or Text Mex 730 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: Because you know you've come into the area fifth year 731 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: now and you've tried both well quite obviously. I love both, 732 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: quite obviously. It's a tough call. It is the barbecue, 733 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm like down to a couple of places, whereas whereas 734 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: the Text Mex. I mean, I think there's several places 735 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: that are really good. Right. You know, you've got obviously 736 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: good company. You've got you know, LTMPO. I'm not trying 737 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: to land Yeah, yeah, you know, but you're talking to 738 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: the text. I'm talking about text man. You know. Then 739 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: you've got Cyclona nine. You know, you've got some places 740 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: in the barbecue maybe, And I love barbecue. I'm not 741 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: trying to I'm just saying maybe one or two places, 742 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: so i'd probably go with text Mex okay, like like 743 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: the spicy stuff too, so you do which I know 744 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: you can get a barbecue too, but when you do 745 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: barbecue is at brisket is it? Tell you a quick story. 746 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: Yesterday we had a little league. So this little league 747 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: deal like every night they got an activity for these kids, right, 748 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: and so they had like a pool party at somebody's house. 749 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: So those people they they hired one of those taco makers, 750 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: like those street vendors, and they came over and the 751 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: guy was made tacos and you had all the toppings. 752 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean it was unbelievable with the different spices, toppings 753 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: and in the guacamole. There are people listening around Houston going, yeah, 754 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: I mean it, I've never seen anything like it. I know. 755 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: That's the thing when you when you have somebody that's 756 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: not not from here. I mean you've been here for years, 757 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: but to them, that's that's you know, that's kind of 758 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: run of the mill, that's Texas like, that's what you do. 759 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: But you know, for somebody that hasn't been I never 760 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: saw that before. That's really cool. All right, let's let's 761 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: talk about movies. Best sports movie that you've seen or 762 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: if you've got time to sit down and watch one 763 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: sports movie, which ones are gonna be? I'm watching Rocky 764 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: one original. Yeah, I'm watching Rocky one. I'm watching Miracle, Miracle, 765 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching Um. I mean, there's several others, but I'm watching. 766 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: I mean, my wife she, if she was sitting here, 767 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: she would tell you that Michael and I have probably 768 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: watched Rocky a thousand times. Yeah. Well, have you have 769 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: you seen the new Creed? I heard it was coming out. 770 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: I didn't The original Creed is out, but Creed too, 771 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: So you've seen them all? Right? Yeah? Yeah, Rocky one 772 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: and Rocky two though, Yeah, after that, it's a formula. 773 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: After that, three or four are very formulated a little bit. 774 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: Creed two is going to be fantastic. The the trailer too, 775 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: minute trailer is really incredible. If you haven't seen the 776 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: Creed two trailer goes, it's fantastic because they bring back 777 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that. Yeah, don't tell us. Yeah, 778 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: it's good. You got to see it because it'll it'll Yeah, 779 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: it'll charge you up. Is that your favorite movie? Period? 780 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Do you have another favorite or two? Yeah? No, I 781 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: have favorite movies. I mean I don't know, I kind 782 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: of go with what I've watched most recently. I wouldn't 783 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: say that this is my favorite movie, favorite movie, But 784 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: I watched this movie the other night, Molly's Game. Oh 785 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: that's not really good. Yeah it's really good. Now I'm 786 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 1: not saying I watched The Post a couple of weeks ago. 787 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: That was pretty good. Um, I don't. I wouldn't be 788 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: able to pick one move Godfather, Guy, Love the Godfather, Love, 789 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: Good Fellas. Yeah, kind of like them all. It's hard 790 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: for me to rank one. Godfather's awesome. She my wife 791 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: would also tell you I've probably seen that a thousand times, 792 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: because you know, like on you know, like a Saturday 793 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: during the offseason, you're hanging out and you go through 794 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: the guide or whatever, and you see what's on. It's 795 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: on every Saturday afternoon or Sunday afternoon. I mean, Miracle 796 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: just got to Netflix and yeah, and so it was 797 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: I was like on Netflix looking for something. I saw it. Yeah, 798 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: Like I feel I feel contractually obligated to watch you 799 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: when it's on. So I'm like, is it play? It 800 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: started doing some things in the room I was in 801 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: just so I could have it on. Have you met 802 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: any of those guys because a lot of those guys 803 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: were from Boston. Yeah, I got an autograph when I 804 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: was a kid from Jim Craig. I can't say that 805 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: I met him. I mean I was a kid. Um, 806 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: I've met Mike Ruzione. He's he's always around, Yeah, Boston. 807 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: He came to a Patriots game. Um. My, My brother 808 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: Tom played midget hockey in in Situate, mass with Dave Silk. Oh. Wow. 809 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I think Dave was a little bit older than my brother, 810 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: but they were in a similar un the same team. Wow. Wow. 811 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: So when Bill O'Brien kids, when you're watching Miracle and 812 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: they get to the scene where he's making them do 813 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: the suicides over and over and he saying again again, 814 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: and cranjer he said, yeah, make him do it again. 815 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: I cringe a little bit on that. Only from what 816 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: I know now, right, Okay, I think earlier in my 817 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: coaching career, I'd be like, yeah, you know, they need 818 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: to pay the price or whatever. But now when I 819 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: know about they had played the game and then he 820 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: made him do that, yes, yes, and so I'm like 821 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: they didn't play Well, what a deal that one? And 822 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: then that Craig Ramsey's looking at him like, dude, we 823 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: gotta stop. We can't. Somebody's gonna, you know, pass out. 824 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: I think a great coaching scene from that is when 825 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: they get the kid from Minnesota who joins him late 826 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: and he's really good, but the players are like, I 827 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: don't doll and they said, now I got a team 828 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: because they voted them off. They want to be together. 829 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah that's pretty good, right, Yeah he was. He was 830 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: awesome at you know, motivational tactics and just different things 831 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: that he did with that team. You know, he was great. 832 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: And his speech before the Russian game is the greatest ever? 833 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: Is the greatest ever? All right? So all right, one 834 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: more four. It's a multiple choice. You have to make 835 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 1: one of these happen a must make, and you get 836 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: to choose one out of these four. A four foot put, 837 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: not three, but four foot put, a free throw catch, 838 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: a fifty yard punt, you know, like a nice high 839 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: Leckler put, not a not a coffin corner, but a 840 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 1: nice high fifty yard putt. Or answer a random Boston 841 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: sports trivia question. One of those four you gotta do it. 842 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: What are you gonna pick? I'm gonna I mean, I'd 843 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: have to go with the last one answer a random bust. 844 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I guess I could catch the punt. 845 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm missing the putt because I'm a terrible putter. Did 846 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: you say putt? Yeah, four foot is tough. I'm a 847 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: bad putter. I mean, I'm just not us no for me, 848 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: it is he aska. I can't hit the ball anywhere, 849 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: but I can make a four foot put ask fair 850 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: bear at this question. He's not picking the putt. I'm serious, like, oh, 851 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: kickers and no free throw. I just played hoop last 852 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: night at this little league party I was at and 853 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't make anything, so I'm not doing a free throw. Okay, 854 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: Boston Sports Trivia question, it is coach. Thanks a lot 855 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: for the time. We really appreciate that was great. Thanks guys, Yes, 856 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: it was coach. That was a blast. It's been a 857 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: blast all week long with our summer celebration, whether it 858 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: was interviews with our quarterbacks, Ultimate Ultimate Levin's All American 859 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: Dude Drafts, or our conversation with Bill O'Brien's been a 860 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: great week. We're getting closer people. Next week we're back 861 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: live with Texans All Access. Will be about two and 862 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: a half weeks from the Greenbrier, but boy, it is 863 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: right there on the horizon. Thank you so much to 864 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: everybody who participated, gave us great sound, gave us great 865 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: radio throughout the offseason. Thank you so much to all 866 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: of you listen. Thank you. We will see you again 867 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: on Monday, and as always, go Texans.