1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Podcast listeners. This is for you, Welcome to No Dunks, 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. This is the drop here in 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: the Classic Factory. I'm Testmels with me. It's the man 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: in the middle, Trey Kirby. Hey, hey, o trade just 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: seems like you just woke up and her man making 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: the magic happen. It's JD. Hello, it's going on. JD. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Usually I'm the one who's a little sleepy, weepy. 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: I was doing a Brent Berry. Hey, where's my camera? 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Where's my camera? No, no, I've been awake for a 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: long time. Got up early this morning to just get 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: my shot blocked and turn the ball over for two 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: straight hours. It was a great morning run. 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Damn. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. It do be like that sometimes, a big. 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Man blocking your shots because you're. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: You know, people were kind of just taking their turns. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Happened a lot here. I'll make you feel better. I 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: went to a court to shoot five free throws. I 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: just wanted to. I worked out, then I into the 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: court just to hand hit five free throws. It probably 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: took me eighteen shots, I think. 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Nice. 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: So okay, good, there here you go. We got lots 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: to get to in this show. We're gonna drop some 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: hot playoff takes. Yeah, maybe we got a rapid firefront. 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll get to the Lakers and Thunder, but 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: let's start with the Calves and Pistons. Piston's got a 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: two zero lead here in round two, Trey taking care 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: of business both games at home. Where do you want 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: to start? Is it the Pistons sight or is it 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: the stinky Cavs site? 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. The big news coming out of 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: this one. What everybody's talking about is the Calves disappointment, 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: the poor play of James Harden and Evan Mobley. First 35 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: and foremost, I got Lucy football once again. I guaranteed 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 2: on yesterday's show that he would have more field goals 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: made than assists, and he couldn't do it. Evan Mobley 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: played thirty five minutes, he had one rebound. 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I like, I'd say Harden was way 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: worse than Mobley, though, because Mobley did a good job defensively. 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: Yes, sure, yeah, I agree, But I mean I would 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: say the problem is that the Calves are basically hosting 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: their own disappointing players. Draft. Sure, and they got maybe 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: three guys who would be first round picks. Because I 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: would even throw Donovan Mitchell into the mix despite him 46 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: having a nice scoring game what he ended up with 47 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: thirty one points, I believe, but just two for eight 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarters. These have been two winnable games 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: for the Calves, and Mitchell is shooting four for fourteen 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: in these fourth quarters getting out played by Cad Cunningham. 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of at the point where I feel 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: bad for the Detroit Pistons because everybody just wants to 53 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: talk about how bad the Caves are. Even though the 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: Pistons got down three to one against Orlando, have won 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: five straight and are looking like the team we saw 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: during the regular season. In these five straight wins, one 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: hundred and nine points allowed, seventy nine ninety four, one 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: oh one ninety seven. Now three of those are against 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: the Magic, who are offensively challenged for sure, but still 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: they shut him down, especially that game six second half 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: by one hundred and one and ninety seven. For the 62 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: Calves at least a good off team. We've seen them 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: have great moments in the playoffs in the first two 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: games against Toronto and then since then it's kind of 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: been a disaster. But Danis Jenkins is playing really really well. 66 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson is shooting the ball. Tobias Harris has got 67 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: to be the oldest player to ever be a breakout 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: star in the playoffs. The guy's nearly thirty four years 69 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: old and can't stop scoring twenty in a game. I 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: heard Bones say on the broadcast last night he hadn't 71 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: had twenty in back to back games at all this season. 72 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: He's got seven straight with twenty or more. Looking vicious 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: down low, like when the Pistons need a bucket, they 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: can rely on Tobias Harris to hit a turnaround jumper. 75 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. So I do feel bad that Detroit is 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: definitely getting like overshadowed by how poor the Caves are 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: playing and how disappointing they've been through the first two 78 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: games of this series. But Detroit has turned things around completely. 79 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: They're ferocious on the defensive end, They're getting great performances 80 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: from Caid, and their support guys are showing up well enough. 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: No doubt. Part of how they start really well is 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: the Caves always get off to a bad start, Yes, 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: and by Jims, a lot of sloppy Jims. James Harden, 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: that's who it's named after. If you haven't watched our show, 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: the sloppy Joe's are the bad turnovers converted to sloppy gyms. 86 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: They're now sloppy jims. They're bad turnovers. I know he 87 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: only had four technically yesterday, but I wanted to attribute 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: a couple more to him as well, being that they're 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: in the back court, Jared Allen just throws him a 90 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: ball sort of loosely, and James Harden didn't account for 91 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: sar Thompson just flying through to grab it at all. 92 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: That's half a turnover for James Harden. And then in 93 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: the front court he didn't come and get the ball. 94 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: They couldn't get him the ball, so then Denn Shruder 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: had to do his thing and turn it over. So 96 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: half to that one as well. But really dumb ones, 97 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean the toss ahead to Evan Mobley when you 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: got two guys beside you on a break, on a break, 99 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: but you try and throw it forty feet ahead. So 100 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: there's that, Okay, that part is bad of James Harden. 101 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: There's also the fact that he's just not score weren't 102 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: all that well, So there's that he's getting picked on defensively. 103 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: So there's that he's also agitated by everybody. Yeah, so 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: there's that. Yesterday Ron Holland got into his space and 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: he got all bothered. Same with the sar Thompson. It 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: was Duncan Robinson in game one. So the whole package 107 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: and why I would say James Harden had a worse 108 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: game than Evan Mobley is just because the whole package. Well, 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: Ivan Mobley did some good things defensively and some good 110 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: things passing the ball, not scoring, uh, and not rebounding, 111 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, that's for sure. 112 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: One rebound is pretty poor and like, like you're right, 113 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: maybe Harden should have a couple of more turnovers, but 114 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: four is like a livable number if you're doing literally 115 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: anything else. But he wasn't scoring. He took two shots 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: in the second half. He's not getting to the line. 117 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: He can't really get separation for his step back jumper, 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: which is his go to shot, and if he can't 119 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: get separation for that, he's having hard times getting by 120 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: Like Duncan Robinson on drives. You saw that drive thirty 121 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: three seconds left, kads are down by six, Like if 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: they get a three pointer off, we're talking about a 123 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: clutch game that maybe they can end up stealing instead, 124 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: he kind of dribbles into two guys. I know Mitchell 125 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: took a little credit for that turnover as well, since 126 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: he said he brought us R. Thompson too close to 127 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: James Harden. Nonetheless, the turnover goes to Harden, and it's 128 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: kind of like, why is he the guy that's the 129 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: trigger man at that point in the game. But still 130 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: it's not like Mitchell was doing anything either. The Cavs 131 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: went oh for eleven from three in the fourth quarter. 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: They have been there to win both of these first 133 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: two games. In Detroit had a lead and this one 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: had a lead in game one as well, but they're 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: just falling apart in clutch time and Kate is not. 136 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: And they're having to dig from a huge hole. So 137 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: they definitely were leading in the fourth quarter. They led 138 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: by two their early but a big part of it 139 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: in game one. In Game two, they get down double 140 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: digits because they start so poorly. People might look at 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: the box scurt and say, well, it's just eleven turnovers. 142 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: That ain't a lot in total for a team, but 143 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: they had six in the first quarter, so you get 144 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: down big. As you could look at all of them, 145 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: a lot of them definitely on James Harden, but just 146 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: so many things go poorly to start the game. So 147 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: they definitely recovered again in both games. But what we 148 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: saw in round one for the Pistons was that they 149 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: got off to a bad start for them, and the 150 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Calves didn't show up in either of these games. To 151 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: try and take away a little bit of the aggressiveness 152 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: and the spirit of the Pistons, who are very very 153 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: very good defensively, I just think they don't as a 154 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: caz offense. We'll get away from this calvs team and 155 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: ripping on them a second, but they don't move the 156 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: ball enough. I think that you have Yeah, you just watch, 157 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: that's true, you just watch some of I thought their 158 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: best possession was in the third court midway through the 159 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: third quarter, where Evan Mobley gets it sort of on 160 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: the wing above the three point line. Here comes Donovan 161 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: Mitchell for a handoff and he gets all the way 162 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: down low into the paint and fires it to James 163 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Harden up top, who makes a different move for him 164 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: and dribbles hard down the lane immediately doesn't wait, and 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: then he finds Mitchell who's repositioned in the third courts 166 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: and the corner I should say so. I mean, that's 167 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: just good offense. I don't like looking at the raw 168 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: passing numbers all the time. But we'll get to the Lakers. Okay, 169 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: see game the Lakers passed it sixty more times than 170 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: Oka se does there did in Game two. I think 171 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the Cavs could just do a little more of that, 172 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: and they had seventy fewer passes than the Lakers did 173 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: in their game. They literally just don't pass enough, I think, 174 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of just standing around and you just 175 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: need to see a little bit more of that. We'll 176 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: get to some hot takes. I think Karl Anthony Town's 177 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: touching the ball for the New York Knicks is helps them. 178 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: And you would if you saw Mobley or Jared Allen 179 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: literally in the short role a little bit more, I 180 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: think that would just help. So the Calves stinky, stinky 181 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: start to this series. They obviously have to go win 182 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: in Game three. It's all on Saturday for this team. 183 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: That's what the series comes down to. 184 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: Game three is definitely a must win for Cleveland. You 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: can't come back from three to zero. No team has 186 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: done it yet. And they shot seven for thirty two 187 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: from three last night, so that means they were for 188 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: let me do some math here, fourteen for thirty eight 189 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: in game one, twenty one through seventy through two games, 190 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: you're only thirty percent from three. For the Calves, they 191 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: have to be thinking they'll shoot better at home. They 192 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: haven't lost a home playoff game yet one they're four 193 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: against Toronto, haven't had one yet against Detroit. So, like 194 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: I said, they've been there to win both of these games. 195 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 2: But it just feels disjointed offensively for the Cavs. It's 196 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: definitely a year turn, my turn. Once they get into 197 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, Mobley and Allen really become an afterthought. 198 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: It's like, can Harden get to a step back or 199 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: maybe a floater or Mitchell making impossible moves. It feels 200 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: like he's never getting an easy basket in this series, 201 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: is having to do six euro steps to even get 202 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: to a floater over a tall guy. Then on the 203 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: other side, it's like there's not really an answer for 204 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: Kad Cuttingham on this Caves roster. Like Streus did an 205 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: ok job at times during Game one. He had a 206 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: bad game too. Dean Wade is doing his best, but 207 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: he's not giving you enough offensively that it matters, and 208 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: he's able to lose kid at s sometimes too, and 209 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: those are kind of like their best chances. 210 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't. 211 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if Mobley's capable of that. Like he's 212 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: got a lot of size on Kke cunning him. He 213 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: does have good quickness, he's a good defensive player. Maybe 214 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: that's something they should try because Kate is killing him 215 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: down the stretch, like he just orchestrates everything. In Game one, 216 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: it was setting up little dump offs for Jalen Durhan 217 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: three straight buckets there. Last night he was hitting jumpers 218 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: and mid rangers. He just looks like he looks like 219 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: the best player on the court, and the best players 220 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: for the Cavs, all of them are coming up short. 221 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. He definitely looks like the best player 222 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: in this series. The fact that his teammates are allowing 223 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: him to kind of chill for three quarters, I wouldn't 224 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: where chill is a little too extreme, but really not 225 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: have to press until the fourth quarter. Nearly half of 226 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: his shots were in the fourth quarter, and also about 227 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: half of his points also in the fourth quarter because 228 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: of that, So credit to everybody else on that roster, 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: mainly Tobias Harris for getting this start Danis Jenkins as well, 230 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: but literally he could just allow everybody else to sort 231 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: of get them to get him to the fourth quarter. End, 232 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: he is kind of unstoppable. Whether it's Wade or whether 233 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: it's Strew's or they throw out the Jalen Tyson experiment. 234 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: It was fine, pretty good yesterday. Yeah, the corner shot, 235 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: the shot just doesn't look good for him. But otherwise 236 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: the drives for him offensively solid and playing defense solid. 237 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: But what a playoffs for Kate Cunning him He's played 238 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: the most minutes in the NBA, so he's playing a 239 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: ton And obviously the points are ridiculous, you know, leading 240 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: the NBA thirty points, six points per game and great efficiency. 241 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: You know, on the capside, maybe if they take away 242 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: something's in the first half, or they're playing a little 243 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: bit closer and not turning the ball over than maybe 244 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Kay has to do more and maybe Kate's a little tired, 245 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: more tired in the fourth quarter. But this team totally 246 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: looks like what we're talking about. In February and March, 247 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: we were sitting in Austin, Texas, and we were going 248 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: through predictions for the Eastern Conference, and I said, I 249 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: literally would pick the Pistons right now. You know, the 250 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: celticx ditdon't have Tatum at that point, Kate was healthy. 251 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: And then I look like an idiot as Cade gets 252 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: injured and they and they go down three to one 253 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: in the first series. Now they look like a totally 254 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: different team. That's that you said about Tobias Harris that 255 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: Brent Barry dropped. Come on, man, that's crazy. Yeah. He 256 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: didn't have two games in a row with twenty points 257 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: during the regular season. Now he's at seven straight and 258 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: the postseason. Come on man. 259 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe at least a little part of 260 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: that is like he's moved up in the pecking order 261 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: for sure. We're not even talking about Jalen Duran having 262 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: a disappointing game or a disappointing series so far. It 263 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: stuck out big time against the Magic, But when he's 264 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: compared to the big men for the Cavaliers, like you 265 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: don't care because he is dominating inside his presence, his 266 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: physicality is important. But during the regular season he was 267 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: the number two guy for the Pistons from a scoring standpoint. 268 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: That has not been the case in the playoffs. Tobias 269 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: Harris has had to step up, and he really really has. 270 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: Like he's played so many playoff games coming into this, 271 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: like sixty plus, and I think you would say that 272 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: he was a playoff dropper. Yeah, you know, Philadelphia was 273 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: always wanting more from Tobias Harris, and now Detroit is 274 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: getting everything that Philadelphia wanted when he was there for 275 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: what felt like fifteen straight seasons. But yeah, the guy's 276 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: almost thirty four years old having his best playoffs and 277 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: like looking great while he's doing it when he's not 278 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: getting his hip broken by Donovan Mitchell. 279 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he went down hard. Did you think Mitchell 280 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: kind of pulled him down in a weird. 281 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: There is an angle where you can see him get 282 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: grabbed the back of Harris's legs, so definitely threw off 283 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: his balance, you would have to think. But I've still 284 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: never seen that a guy's hip getting broken on a crossover. 285 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 2: You hear about the ankle breaker all the time, the 286 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: hip breaker is pretty rare. 287 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: And seeing Tobias Harris being being labeled as a guy 288 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: who is super efficient and now you can say he's 289 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: underpaid because he was always overpaid for a long time. 290 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: But now the two year extension for twenty six per 291 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: He looks great. He did start a little poorly as 292 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: that first series went on, like he was there to 293 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: take the shots. Yes, he was in that role in 294 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: the pecking order, as you said, so he was there 295 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: to do that. But he's gotten way better as the 296 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: playoffs have gone along, and I think the Pistons and JB. 297 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Bickerstaff were smart in asking him not to shoot as 298 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: many threes or not required him shoot as many threes. 299 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Last night. He was two of three last night. If 300 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: there's any thing he could poke at in his playoff 301 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: run here, it's that his three point shot has not 302 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: been all that great. But last night it was just 303 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: two of three and super efficient. Obviously, lots of credit 304 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: to Danis Jenkins. I think in that first half was super, 305 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: super good. He was offensively, he's a one man fast break. 306 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: He played great defense on d Mitchell. I don't know 307 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: how he was able to stay in front of Mitchell 308 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: this one time where Mitchell was dancing. He was dancing, 309 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: but Dan Jenkins was holding him. And then yeah, offensive rebound. 310 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: The guy was eleven four and four at half, so 311 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: huge credit to him. Yeah, I thought every single Piston 312 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: was there to play yeah, totally. 313 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson seventeen points, another five threes. He had five 314 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: threes in Game one as well. He had some important 315 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: ones in the fourth quarter. I thought, like we're saying 316 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: during not huge numbers, eight points, ten boards, but he 317 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: was a presence inside and R. Thompson just just makes 318 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: place like he's there andre Iguidala where he just like, oh, 319 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: we need a tip in, we needed a steal, just 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: doing little things here and there. Very Swiss army knife 321 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: of him, and the Calves haven't been able to play 322 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: him off the court. Like his lack of shooting could 323 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: be a problem. He almost hit a three last night. 324 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: It went in, but the ball is still on his fingertips, 325 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: so they had to take it off. But I saw 326 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: it go in with my eyes. He shot it very confidently, 327 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: got the grenade, knocked it down, didn't count, but like 328 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: that could be a sore thumb for the Pistons right 329 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: having him out there as a non shooter, having Jalen 330 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: Duran out there as a non shooter. Cade goes up 331 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: and down, like he shot it well last night, but 332 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: there are times when his jumper isn't there. That hasn't 333 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: been a problem at all in this series. It's just 334 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: been physical, big boy basketball, and that's absolutely the kryptonite 335 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: for the Cleveland Cavaliers. 336 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, he doesn't have to do a lot 337 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: on his own shoulders, or a lot is in place 338 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: on his shoulders the first few quarters because the Cavs 339 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: are stinky stinky, so everybody else comes through. And that's 340 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: with the star Thompson getting into foul trouble and not 341 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: being able to play a ton under twenty four minutes 342 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and him still letting that rip that shot, and they're 343 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: allowing Jalen Durham to be open and mobile blocked him 344 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: three times, and so that matchup is what they want 345 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: and they're happy with that. But he's always got to 346 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: be better on the offensive end. You mentioned the injury 347 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: that Davey on Mischel Davy I'm calling I'm got s 348 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: Mitchell problems man him. I called him Darren, I'm calling 349 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: him every d name but his fricking name. Yeah, Donovan 350 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: Mitchell also injured himself. I think if this Calves team 351 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: goes out in this playoffs, I think you'll be seeing, unfortunately, 352 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: the close up of him turning his ankle on a 353 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: fast break that he's leading and no one touches him 354 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: and he rolls his ankle and hobbles out of play. 355 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: You don't see that very often. 356 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: You don't see that very often. 357 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: He just turns his own ankle. 358 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see that in a men's league or something 359 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: like that, but not the pros who generally know how 360 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: to run up and down the court. I did think 361 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: it was interesting to hear from Bones. It's like maybe 362 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: five minutes left. He's like, this is a big five 363 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: minutes for the Calves from an organizational standpoint, because I'm 364 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: hardened struggling through the game. Mobley is struggling through the game, 365 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: and they got the question hanging over their heads, like 366 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: how many times can we keep running back the same 367 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: general team. Things obviously changed with the Garlic for Mitchell trade, 368 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: but that just accelerates or sorry, Garland for Harden, that 369 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: just accelerates things for the Calves because they're so worried 370 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: about Donovan Mitchell wanting to come back to Cleveland, and 371 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: I mean, losing the same way again would be the 372 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: most disappointing possible end of the season for the Calves, 373 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: no doubt. Yeah, Bones, I thought nailed. It's like these 374 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: five minutes matter for Game two and for the rest 375 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: of the summer. For the Caves. It feels like we're 376 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: talking like the series is over. They could have won 377 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: either of these games. They still got two games coming 378 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: at home in Cleveland that they can get back into 379 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: the series. But it's just been disappointing from Cleveland for sure. 380 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the first five minutes matters in Game three, yes, because, yeah, 381 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: the Calves just aren't together. Then they do pick it 382 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: up a little bit, but not so good to start. 383 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: They have won their home games. They did it against 384 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: the Toronto Raptors, so we will see if they can 385 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: do that. 386 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: It looks so good after the first two games at 387 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: the Round one and Round one, Yeah, they were going 388 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: nuts and then basically the Raptors just started turning them over. 389 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: And it feels like the Calves haven't been able to 390 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: stop turning the ball over since Game three against Toronto. 391 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: Three o'clock eastern on Saturday. That's what they get. 392 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: Sounds early, right, three o'clock eastern on Saturday. Okay, yeah, 393 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: I'll be there. 394 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Is it bad for the home team that they 395 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: started three? I guess not, because they took care of 396 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: business with an early start to start the playoffs. Yeah, 397 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: that was a one o'clock right, it was a twelve o'clock, 398 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: twelve thirty, one o'clock whatever it was. I can't remember exactly. Yeah, 399 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd have to click. 400 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: That seems like it was one hundred years ago. 401 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, it was an early start. One. Game 402 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: three is their series season, No, there's no doubt and 403 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: the series so yeah, as Brent was sort of saying that, yeah, 404 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: there's huge implications, so the whole thing, the whole thing, 405 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: and whether you or not you have to tear it 406 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: all down. 407 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: Or some some kind of change. 408 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, a big change. 409 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean but also it's like they're a 410 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: team that's been proposed as a potential Yannis destination and 411 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: Evan Mobley is kind of like the swing piece, Like 412 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: would they include him because that would be somebody that 413 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: the Bucks would want to get back. But now you're like, 414 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: if you're the Bucks, they're like, you're gonna have to 415 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: give us even more of course, or the way this 416 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: guy's playing. So yeah, this has been a bad week 417 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: and a half. I feel like for Cleveland. 418 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Again, this seems really really simple. But again, him in 419 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: the short roles or or Jared Allen Moore in the 420 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: short roles where those guys are at least touching the ball. 421 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: I think is important to this team. They have to 422 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: do that to get them involved at least, so everybody's involved. 423 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: We shall see game three. Any other random notes from 424 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: this baby. 425 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: I like to see Amen Thompson in the crowd supporting 426 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: his brother. You know, the Rockets got bounced in round one. 427 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch my twin places in basketball. 428 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah. 429 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: I always liked that when a brother or a teammate 430 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: show up to see another game played. It's nice. 431 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: Speaking of the Thompsons, Asar Thompson has knee pads in 432 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: his leg sleeves. I think that's important. Like they're they're 433 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: sewn in, they're just part of the leg sleeve. And 434 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: when he went down on his knees to get that 435 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: steal with thirty seconds left from James Harden, he felt comfortable. 436 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Dude it because his knees are cushioned now. They're not 437 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: like volleyball pat knees. They're just little ones you can 438 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: see there. I think they should be a part of 439 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: every leg sleeves. 440 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: Be part of every leg sleeve. Maybe the flexibility is 441 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: a problem, but it really sets a tone. From a 442 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: legs standpoint, I'm willing to go to the ground. 443 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because my knees are supported. 444 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, James Harden ain't wearing knee sleeves, that's for sure. 445 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: But I'm thinking he's gonna come through in Game three, cho, 446 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: I think this is the one. This is the one 447 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: for Harden. Look, it's only been a quarter of his 448 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: career playoff games that he has more turnovers than goals, 449 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: literally a quarter, which means seventy five percent of the 450 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 2: time he has more makes than turnovers. And I'm saying 451 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: Game three guaranteed James Harden more field goals than turnovers. 452 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: We heard it here. 453 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: You're a crazy man. 454 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guaranteeing it every game until it finally happened. 455 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: It is even surprising to me now, even though we've 456 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: talked about it for a good twenty minutes, to know 457 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: that the four turnovers were more than the amount of 458 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: field goals he hit. And I watched him out there. 459 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly like, you can live with four turnovers if 460 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: you go in for twelve, you know, not three for thirteen. 461 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: Totally other random notes, I want to fly through the 462 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: kid block on Dennis Shruder where his follow through hit 463 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: Struder look like he hit him right in the eyeballs 464 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: and Struder was trying to help his eyes afterward. I mean, 465 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: that was that was tough. But a clean block on 466 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: the fall through is just a fall through. So I 467 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: thought that was a good non call. I thought the 468 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: camera shot, I want to talk about production going into 469 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: the second quarter. It started in the raft. It was 470 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: a drone started in the rafters, and the rafters have 471 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: those blue lights within it, so the lighting looks cool 472 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: in Detroit. So drone shots don't always look awesome, but 473 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: that one was cool and it came down and then 474 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: you saw the video board come into frame, so the 475 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: video board looked cool from that angle and then it 476 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: zoomed in. I just thought that was cool. I'll see 477 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: a cool drone shot. Nice shot, Yeah, I love a 478 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: cool drum shot of the drone is definitely caught in 479 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: camera a couple of times. 480 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were nice with the cameras last night, because 481 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking of the Lakers game when who 482 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: was the sideline reporter. Maybe it was Christina Pinks in 483 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: the second one where she started like the like her 484 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: stand up, yeah, talking about Luka Doncic, and they went 485 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: from her to the bench where Luca was over there, 486 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: like a walk and talk. I thought that was pretty 487 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: smooth as well. 488 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Very smooth. Last thing for me, Dan Jenkins. We always 489 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: call him Dennis Jenkins. And that's when one of our 490 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: fans said, hey, hey, you go to their web page 491 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: and they have a pronunciation guide where each player says 492 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: his own name. It's a two second clip and it's 493 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Danis Jenkins, you know, kind of like he's from Denmark. 494 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: Although when you listen to his clip, he says so 495 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: quickly it's kind of hard to tell if it's Danis 496 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: or Danis. But either way, Mark volmar Our fan here 497 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: on on YouTube, thanks for the heads up. 498 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't appear to be Danish. 499 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: It does appear to be. 500 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: They started saying Danis at the beginning of the season, 501 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: even the Pistons, but the Pistons broadcasters. As he rose 502 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 2: in status and established himself as a player, they got 503 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: with the program Denis Jenkins. And now it's filtering down 504 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: to the national broadcast. You're hearing it more and more, 505 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 2: his correct pronunciation of a name you'll never confuse him 506 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: for Janis Denkins again, because I've never met a woman 507 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: named Janis. 508 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: No no, that is Oh, that's spark think something Janus 509 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: no no, oh, who might It's just sounds like another name. 510 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: But it's not a Danis, it's not a it's not 511 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: a genus. I'll get to it later. Do every does 512 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: every single page on the NBA website have a pronunciation 513 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: guiy for for all their names, like there's our little 514 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: audio clips. 515 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's not a question that I know 516 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: the answer to you. 517 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting into, definitely getting it because it's usually it's hey, 518 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: got a basketball basketball referencing. You see the fanatics, but 519 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: some of them don't. 520 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: Some of them don't. 521 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: Dennis Jenkins is not well get That's why he's Danis 522 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Jenkins education. All right, let's get to the Lakers and 523 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: the Thunder. What do you think about this one? A 524 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: thunder take care of business in the. 525 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: End, thundertake care different. 526 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: It was different. 527 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: It was different. 528 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: I know in the chats people were saying, like our 529 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: own personal chats and people saying, whoa the Lakers? 530 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: WHOA? 531 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: They're doing it because they were up in the third quarter. 532 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: They were up in the third quarter. They were up 533 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: at halftime, but then you're like, wait a second. They 534 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: went seven for sixteen from three. That's awesome. Shake kills 535 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: just alexandri not having a great first quarter or great 536 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: first half. Lakers up one, that wasn't good. They got 537 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: another file from Jake Kills with Alexandria. I had three 538 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: in the first half. He picks up his four fourth 539 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: like ninety seconds in. Yeah, he has to go to 540 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: the bench, and then the Thunder ripped off a twenty 541 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: two to four run. They were down five when Shay 542 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: subs out, up thirteen when he comes back and it 543 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 2: was basically Aj Mitchell and Chet aj Mitchell. This is 544 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: incredible the way he has been able to step into 545 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: the number two trigger man roll for the Thunder with 546 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: Jaylen Williams absence. This is a game that easily the 547 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: Thunder could have lost with Shay being in fouled trouble. 548 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: The Lakers actually actually shooting the ball pretty well, and 549 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: instead a guy that's in his second year in the 550 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: NBA went to work boring setting up teammates. Chet Holmgren 551 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 2: is playing an awesome series so far. His size, his 552 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: shooting has been a real thorn in the side for 553 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: the Lakers. I think the size in general for the 554 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: thunder between Hartenstein and Chet is really giving the Lakers problems. 555 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: You throw in Jared McCain getting dusted off. He played 556 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: twenty two total minutes in Round one, and he's got 557 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: how many threes through two games? Here he's got seven 558 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: threes I think in two straight in two games. He 559 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: looks like a great player as well. Meanwhile, the Lakers 560 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: didn't have Jared Vanderbilt, so they threw out a du Tiero. 561 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: This is the levels of teams we're talking about here. Yes, 562 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: this could maybe be a competitive series of Shaye didn't 563 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: play the entire time, and I would still probably take 564 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: the thunder. 565 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: It was incredible that his team won the minutes on 566 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: the bench for Shay by eighteen. Yeah, that is that 567 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: is something. Okay sees bench beat the Lakers bench, even 568 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: if the road we're playing a due theory out now. 569 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: I think he's in a due theo for talking. 570 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. 571 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: Either way, he's. 572 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: Got he's got to start playing better so he gets 573 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: the Danis Jenkins dream Man zero. 574 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: SI you're yeah, yeah, Like I'm good at pronunciations. I 575 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: call Donovan Mitchell, Davion Mitchell, and when I call him 576 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: last time, Aarren Darren, whoa man? Anyways, Okaysee's bench beat 577 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: the Lakers bench forty eight twenty. And you know there's 578 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: a there's a whole we need Luca thing that's totally true. 579 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: But it also happened in game one, so it's it's 580 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: this ongoing thing. Even with Vanderbilt playing. I thought, yeah, 581 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: the Lakers overall played a pretty good offensive game to 582 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: do what they did to score over on it. He got. Yeah, 583 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: even if there were twenty turnovers, I thought they were 584 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: playing well. They were moving it and so they're whipping 585 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: it around. They could have shot the three ball better 586 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: because they were moving it around and there were some 587 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: open shots. Sure, not everyone's going to be Ruyatchimura out there, 588 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: that dude. I mean, just we got to note it. 589 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: I know they're saying it on the broadcas cast. He's 590 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: four of seven from three in this playoffs, he's fifty 591 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: seven percent from three, But overall in his career, he's 592 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: fifty one percent from three seventy two for one forty one. 593 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: That's the highest three point percentage in NBA Playoffs history 594 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: for a three point shooter. 595 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. Actually, yeah, playoff really yeah, real back. 596 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: In forty threes. But AJ Mitchell on the other side, 597 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: definitely got a recent ten looking pretty good. 598 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: You think maybe like he hit the beach during the 599 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: layoff that they had between round one and round two. 600 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: Yes, maybe, yeah, now that you say that, there's so 601 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: much time off. Yeah, for sure. How good he was 602 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: offensively the footwork inside the threes. He played some defense 603 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: on Marcus Smart. You could see shay as he had 604 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: to go to the benches not in the way. Wow, 605 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: that guy. That guy's really grown the footwork in there. 606 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: They all work on the same in the in the 607 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: same parts of the court, and they admire each other. 608 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: So he did a really great job. Sam Presty, you 609 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: did a really great job. I always look this up 610 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: because I I think it's it's one of the best 611 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: contracts in the league. He's in the first year of 612 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: his three year, eight point seven million dollar contract. Guys 613 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: getting paid under three million per so AJJ. Mitchell, it's ridiculous. 614 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: That's why he was part of my vote for Executive 615 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: of the Year. 616 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sounded crazy when you said it, because 617 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: they just brought everybody back. 618 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't play last year. 619 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: True. I mean he got spot minutes in the in 620 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: the finals, but he was dealing with injury. But I'm 621 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: watching these guys come in Jared McCain, a trade deadline acquisition, 622 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: Jalen Williams with the I who is their third big. 623 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: He's awesome when he comes it. Had a big four 624 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: point play in this one. I'm like, yeah, I mean, 625 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: Sam Presty, even though he built this team two years ago, 626 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: this is still the team and they're still clearly clearly 627 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: the best team, to the point where I kind of 628 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: agree with this. Here Berto Eats here in the stream, 629 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: team says, is aj Mitchell the next Brunson or Harden? 630 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: A guy who's like a bench player who could then 631 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: be the number one guy for a team. I would 632 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: probably have him more on the Brunson level than the 633 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: Harden level, but I don't think it's super far fetched. 634 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: It is going to be a question for the Thunder 635 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: when he actually gets to his second contract, like a 636 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: real big contract. They will have other players that they're 637 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: paying as well, and they're gonna want to find a 638 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: way to keep this guy around. And teams around the 639 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: league should be getting their ducks in a row to 640 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: at least make a giant offer on a guy like 641 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: aj Mitchell because it feels like he could lead a 642 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: team the way he's able to do this in the 643 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: playoffs his first time around. 644 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jalen Brunson comparison is fitting because they're both 645 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: second round picks and they both weren't extremely hot to 646 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: start their careers as a number one guy at all. 647 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: People thought that Jalen Brunson was overpaid when he went 648 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: from the MAVs to the Knicks, and that's when he 649 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: took off. I can't put him at that level yet, 650 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: but I definitely would put him more in that spot 651 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: than the James Harden spot. But a good comparison. Berto. 652 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: I like it, Berto, And of course they are all 653 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: left hand so that helped. It's really nice. 654 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so it was Lebron because he did that 655 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: nice switch last night. 656 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: Right now was cool. That was very cool. 657 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: The guy was phenomenal last night. Again, I thought the 658 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: Lakers were playing well pretty much. 659 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: It does feel like they're playing about as well as 660 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: they can and they have been in these games in 661 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: the second half and still somehow the thunder end up 662 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: covering these gigantic points spreads we talk about every time, 663 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: like how they're just blowing it out. In the end, 664 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: Reeves was better last night, thirty one points, his first 665 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: real good game of the playoffs. There were times, certainly 666 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: when he looked sped up. He finished with five turnovers. 667 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: That's a sign getting him back rolling is important if 668 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: they're going to steal a game. Maybe they shoot well 669 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: from three for an entire game. Playing back in LA 670 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: But the big news coming out of this one for 671 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: sure was Yeah, the Thunder looked great, but a lot 672 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: of referee talk last night. Had a big huddle at 673 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: the end of the game, the Lakers all going confronting 674 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: John Goebel and his friends. Meanwhile the Thunder are literally 675 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: standing over to the side watching and laughing at the 676 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: Lakers complain how hard they were complaining. And look, everybody 677 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: had stuff to say postgame, except for Lebron. He's like, 678 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: we lost, he didn't care. Lebron isn't playing the Thunder 679 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: criticism game. But JJ Reddick was for Lebron's behalf and 680 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: for Austin Reeve's behalf, and then Reeves obviously was very, 681 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: very upset with the way the officiating went down. Last night, 682 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: and it was a weird game. There was a lot 683 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: of weird stuff happening from a flagrant standpoint, from calls 684 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: that were going one way or another. I was laughing 685 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: that every time John Goebel went to the video review 686 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: it went against the Thunder. So Thunder fans are upset 687 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: losing every challenge, it felt like. But the Lakers were very, 688 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: very upset with the way this game was officiated. And 689 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: that's what the Thunder do to everybody. They foll you 690 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: a lot. It ain't gonna get called all the time, 691 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: especially in the playoffs, but they're able to keep their 692 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: heads because you know, they're in the calls, and no 693 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: other team that they play is able to keep their heads. 694 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: They get so obsessed with the way the referee is 695 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: going down that they lose track of the game and 696 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: take themselves out of it. At times. 697 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: He slipped in that they get the calls, but they 698 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: don't get all the They don't get all the calls, 699 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to go out and defend them. 700 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: They get the non calls. That's that's the big thing, 701 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: is that they don't get called for the files that 702 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: you're like, wait a second, how is that not a file. 703 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Well sometimes Shay Goes went to the floor in this 704 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: game and he didn't get a call and she literally 705 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: was on the floor, and so there's that. And sometimes 706 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: you'll see a chat. He flopped in the first half, 707 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: stand Ban Gundy on the call saying, yet that's a flop. 708 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: Don't get that call. Don't get that call. The video 709 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: review came through, as you said, a lot of them 710 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: went to the Lakers side. He did not get the 711 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: call in that case. So I was starting to make 712 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: notes and say, whoa, this is exactly going against what 713 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: all the people are saying that the thunder a getting 714 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: all the calls. But then you know Alex Cruzell flop, 715 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: he got a call, and so the calls of swaying 716 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: the other way to uh for sure. But you're right, 717 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: the Lakers were extremely med throughout this game. Jaji Reddick 718 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: got into it with Ben Taylor. I wish I just 719 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: thought Ben Taylor was a musician, but I can't, man, 720 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: he's also a referee. Because I'm always. 721 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 2: Looking right at YouTuber. Is he well thinking basketball? That's 722 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 2: that's Ben Taylor. That's that's different. Yeah, different, Ben. He's 723 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: a liked basketball. Ben not not referee Ben. 724 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: Jj Reck was right in his face. And John Goebbles. 725 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: He had stand Van on the on the broadcast saying 726 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: John Goebbels getting getting ripped by the fans. This is okay, 727 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: see fans, we're ripping them. The refs, you suck. Refs, 728 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: you suck, And stan Van said, John's a nice guy. 729 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: You just want to literally wanted to defend the guy. 730 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. Many he's got a family. The 731 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: referees cannot get it right for either side because, as 732 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: you said, so you're thinking, you think that the Lakers, 733 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: the opposing team from the Thunder side, don't get the 734 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: non calls, or the Thunder get the non calls. 735 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: Every team the Thunder plays against thinks they're playing eight 736 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 2: on five. 737 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they think. 738 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: But I mean, like Lebron has taken five free throws 739 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: I think in two games. JJ says he's got the 740 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: worst whistle of any superstar ever. That was crazy that 741 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: he didn't get a continuation on the one where he 742 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: hit the jumper after getting bumped and he picked up 743 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: the ball. Even stan Ban Gundy's like, that should absolutely 744 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: be a continuation, But I don't know the Thunder bring 745 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: a level of intensity and physicality from the jump. Every 746 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: single player on their team does it. Some guys are 747 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: more egregious about it than others. But it puts the 748 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: onus on the referees to not be able to call 749 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: everything the entire time. So that's just how it ends up, 750 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 2: and eventually it gets under the skin of whoever they're playing, 751 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: in this case the Lakers. Meanwhile, the thunder take after 752 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: Shay's personality. They are just so even key. They're rarely 753 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 2: getting rattled, but other teams are getting rattled. And I 754 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 2: don't know, I give a lot of credit to Lebron 755 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: being like, that's not the reason we lost, And I 756 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: don't think that's the reason the Lakers lost. But the 757 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: reason that they have problems with it is the mental 758 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: game overwhelms them for sure, and it takes them out 759 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: of the game. It feels like, not only do we 760 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: have a disadvantage because we're playing on the road, it 761 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: feels like we're playing against a conspiracy in a conspiracy. 762 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: But that's certainly what it felt like for Austin Breeves 763 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: last night. That's what it felt like for JJ Reddick 764 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: last night, and that's what it feels like for every 765 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 2: team that plays against the Thunder, so is everybody lying 766 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: or what. 767 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: Well, in a game where the Lakers had five fewer 768 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: free throws in the Thunder, I don't think it was 769 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: that there were calls missed for the Lakers, but at 770 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: the same time, the rest just didn't do an incredible drump. 771 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: I think the flops in general, when they're called, are 772 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: a problem, and I think that will be something that's 773 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: looked at in the offseason. The Thunder played very good 774 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: positional basketball. They get in the way and they hit 775 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: the ground and it's called quite often. Is it their 776 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: fault that that gets called? No, they're just doing what 777 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be doing, and so I think that's 778 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: a point of emphasis for the referees. It is annoying 779 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: to watch, no doubt, so I think that hopefully they 780 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: don't call those as much like I brought. I mentioned 781 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: the Alex Crusi one where Lebron is literally running up 782 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: the floor and Crusoe gets in his way sort of 783 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: by the free throw line, and that's not positional basketball. 784 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: It's just it's just getting in the way, you know. 785 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: But you hit the floor, if you fall, you get 786 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: to call a lot of the times, and that's not fun. 787 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone's lying. I just think they're 788 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: They push it. They push the rules as far as 789 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: they can. The rules need to be readjusted. 790 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 2: Coming into the series, even JJ was like, drawing fouls 791 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: is a skill. Being able to sell the call is 792 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: a skill, and there's literally nobody better at it right 793 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: now than Shake, goes Alexander. Every team just wants it 794 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: to be fair. They want to get the same calls 795 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 2: that the that the Thunder get HM and they don't always. 796 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: Last night, yeah, I thought the rest Shae could have 797 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: been way more mad. 798 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 2: The rest of the brutal. The rest of the rest 799 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: were brutal. We saw too much John. 800 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of video reviews. Yeah, and they were. 801 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: Maybe part of it was that they had three guys 802 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: on headsets at one point. Talking to Secaccas and even 803 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: Iron Eagle, I thought did a great job. As two 804 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: guys took off the headsets, he said, WHOA, some progress here. 805 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: We've only got one headsetter. That's awesome, because yeah, I 806 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: think flops are just called too much. Again, I think 807 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: Shake could have been way more mad. But when he 808 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: went to the bench, with that fourth foul, he's called 809 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: for a flagrant. That was weird, and that was weird. 810 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: He was called for a flagrant. That dude was so calm. 811 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: He was joking with Jalen Williams. They're joking together. You 812 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: could literally say something read his mouth where Jalen was like, 813 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: I know, and they're like joking. Two minutes into the 814 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: third quarter, guy has to go to the bench for 815 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: the second time early in the game because he's called 816 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: for a bunch of fouls. I thought he could have 817 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: got more offensive fouls called his way, the standard calls 818 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: that do happen, or him going to the floor that happened. 819 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: But all in all, yeah, five free throw discrepancy in 820 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: this game. 821 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: It's not all about free throws though. That's what the thing. 822 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: The Lakers are saying, we should have more free throws, 823 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: we should be taking more free throws, and they watched 824 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 2: they will in Game three guaranteed all this complaining plus 825 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 2: Lakers home game, they will take more free throws. 826 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: Well, that's why they're doing it for sure. Yeah, we'll 827 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: say though, I mean, if it's not about free throw 828 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: getting more free throws, then it's just five free throws 829 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: difference I don't see I don't see it as a 830 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: huge difference in this game. When guys are called for 831 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: flagrants either way, the flops have to stop. I think 832 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: that's the biggest one. But to each their own. Let 833 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: us know on the stream team, if you want to 834 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: talk about referee some more, if you want to talk 835 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: about Goebel and Taylor and yeah it was the third Yeah, 836 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't know his name, Mark lindsay, yeah, yep, all right, 837 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: anything else on this game, I don't think so. 838 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the referee thing that bugged me the most 839 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: was when they had that jump ball with a I 840 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: think it was Chat and Jackson Hayes, And this was 841 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 2: a big part of the huddle afterwards. Basically Chat is 842 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: like telling whoever I ended up throwing the jump ball. 843 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 2: Maybe it was John Goebli saying don't let Jackson Hayes 844 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: hold my arms. I was like, all right, Jackson Hayes, 845 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: don't hold his arm. And then it was like, I 846 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: want to stand here. No, I wanted to stand there first, 847 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 2: but wait, I wanted to stand over here. Blah blah 848 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 2: blah blah. It looks like three minutes to jump the 849 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 2: ball up. 850 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: Weird. That sucked yeah, Lebron. That's the one where Lebron 851 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: came running in from Yeah, for him to negotiate what's 852 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, that was tough. The Lakers can still 853 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: win one. They can still win one. They can. 854 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah they won't, but they can't. They won't get this 855 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: series is over. Yeah, I mean no offense to the lake. 856 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. Hopefully Austin Reeves takes what he had in Game 857 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: two there and keeps it going to Game three, because 858 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: he got better as the game went on, and he 859 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: has overcoming his injuries, and so there's an effort level 860 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll see that and less referee talk from us. 861 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: All right, after the break, we'll get to some playoff 862 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: hot takes. We've got to drop some in. But first 863 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors. This show is brought to 864 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: you by FanDuel. I'm supposed to be reading an ad 865 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: right now, but I'm busy checking in the on the 866 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: NBA officials injury reports that drop every fifteen minutes, you know, 867 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: those transparency reports that are in there. I got to 868 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: know who's playing tonight. Nick's Philly og still questionable, Josh 869 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: Hart questionable left thumb right, Mitch Robinson probable let's good 870 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: sign Mbat questionable, Tyrese Maxie available. He's available, just so 871 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: everybody knows. Anthony Edwards questionable. I think he's going to 872 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: play anyways. You never know when those will be dropping, 873 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: so you got to go in. 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Every single day of the 882 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs, FanDuel, an official partner of the NBA. 883 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 2: Sixers, are favored tonight on FANDUL. I don't know about that. 884 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: Only one and a half points, but still. 885 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: Yes with a questionable. Joel embiid perma questionable. I would 886 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: say perma questionable. You just don't think they're going home 887 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: to take care of biz. Was a three and a 888 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: half point line. 889 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: One and a half, yeah, I mean it's basically a 890 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 2: pick up. But still, I mean, the Knicks have been 891 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: better for sure. They have been definitely been the best 892 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 2: team in the Eastern Conference. 893 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we will get to some Knicks in these 894 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: hot hot playoff takes, but we decided to throw a 895 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: few in there. That's right, Trey, you gotta start it. 896 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: What's a hot playoff take for the twenty twenty six 897 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: play It's a hot take. 898 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: For you, Tess. Lebron James is underrated. The Lebron James. 899 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: We talked about him as an X factor coming into 900 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: this series. First time ever this guy's been mentioned as 901 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 2: an X factor. We all picked against him in the 902 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: first round of the playoffs. Now, look, we thought Kevin 903 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: Durant was going to play, but still we picked Kevin 904 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: Durant over Lebron James. That's a crazy move that we did. 905 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 2: He got one vote for anything in the anonymous player 906 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 2: pull the Athletic did, and it was for being the 907 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: most overrated player. He's been a top ten player in 908 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 2: this playoffs, currently fourteenth in points per game, third and 909 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 2: assists per game. His percentages aren't that great. He hasn't 910 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: been shooting the three ball very well this postseason yet, 911 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: but still He's like twenty four points per game, six rebounds, 912 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: almost eight assists, playing with underman teams that keep winning. 913 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: They haven't won against the Thunder, it's the Thunder, but 914 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: they took care of business against the Rockets. He had 915 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 2: that incredible Game six where he was just masterful in 916 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 2: ending the comeback bid for the Rockets, advancing the Lakers. 917 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: And it's just crazy to see this guy in twenty 918 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 2: twenty six doing the same things he was doing in 919 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, where it's like, your team isn't 920 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: isn't good enough, but you got Lebron, so you got 921 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 2: a chance. It's still the case that in twenty twenty six, 922 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 2: if you got Lebron, you got a chance. Yes, that's impressive. 923 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: He has become underrated because you compare him to twenty 924 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: twelve Lebron, Right, I know, his absolute peak, when he 925 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: was maybe the best player to ever be on the 926 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 2: court for a basketball game. He's not that anymore. But 927 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 2: there aren't a lot of guys you would take ahead 928 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: of Lebron in a playoffs only draft. You're telling me, 929 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 2: I got to win sixteen games over the course of 930 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 2: three months. Lebron's probably he's still going like top eight. 931 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, he is underrated. I think this is very accurate. 932 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: We kind of just skipped over him as a first 933 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: round playoff pick for the Lakers for whatever reason. Yeah, 934 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: I think it's clear now that he's not retiring this offseason. 935 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he can do what he wants, but it 936 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: sure feels like he can play longer, Yeah, if he 937 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: wants and be freaking good. He's just really good. He's 938 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: not hanging on by any means. He's throwing down dunks. 939 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: He's physically very strong at recovering as well. So it's 940 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: not like he has a good game bad game. He's 941 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: just so steady every night. So unless for whatever reason 942 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: he wants to stop playing, I don't see why he would. 943 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems very unlikely that he would be done 944 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 2: after this season. And it's also weird because, like, he 945 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: looks so good as a third option when Luca and 946 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 2: Reeves were both healthy, and then he had to snap 947 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 2: back into number one mode And now it's like it 948 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 2: seemed like the end of Lebron in LA at the 949 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: very least, But now the Lakers, like, should they bring 950 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 2: Lebron back? Maybe? 951 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 952 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: Should they figure out a way to pay him? And 953 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 2: be able to keep Reeves under contract as well, because 954 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 2: the three of them looked really, really good, and you 955 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 2: want to have Lebron on your team come playoff time 956 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 2: rather than have to go up against them. So I 957 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: don't think it's a done deal that he leaves the 958 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 2: Lakers anymore, though, you know, for the majority of the 959 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: season it definitely felt like he was on his way 960 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 2: out and that their time together was going to be 961 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 2: coming too a close. I don't think that's a guarantee 962 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 2: you anymore. 963 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the reason why you don't bring him back is 964 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: to get better as a team overall, to have more depth, 965 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 1: because they did lose in the first round last year 966 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: and the year before then. And there's a reason for 967 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: that because we're talking about them not being able to 968 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: play guys against Okac. But it's all about if he 969 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 1: wants to take a discount, like we've heard about other 970 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: teams in Cleveland. So there's that because they have money 971 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: going to Luca, obviously, but besides that, the contracts are 972 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 1: fairly low with this team is currently constructed. So yeah, 973 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: if he wants to stick around, I definitely would bring 974 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: him back. 975 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a lot They got a lot of 976 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 2: stuff to do. Yeah, this summer, they're gonna have to 977 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: figure out what to do with Reeves. He's got a 978 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,439 Speaker 2: player option. He's not going to take that because he's 979 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 2: going to get paid from somebody or from the Lakers. 980 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 2: The Lakers should probably bring him back. But like Ruis 981 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: a free agent Canard Maxi Kleba is still on the books. 982 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen with eight. And 983 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: he signed basically a one year proved that you can 984 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 2: do anything sort of deal with the player option. He's 985 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 2: been decent. He was pretty good I thought in the 986 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,919 Speaker 2: first round. But other than that, like the books can 987 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: be decently clean. But you're right, it would end up 988 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 2: being a top heavy team, which has kind of been 989 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 2: the Lakers undoing the past couple of seasons. 990 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and the front office this is a question 991 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: and the ownership change and whether Rob Planka has the 992 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: freedom to do what he wants. Maybe he does. But 993 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: besides Luca being paid fifty one next year, it's a 994 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: drop off. As you said that Austin Reeves player option 995 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: is the next highest paid contract currently under on the 996 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: books for next year at just about fifteen million. Rui's 997 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: off the books, Canard is off the books. There's just 998 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: not a lot of money tied up next season, all right. 999 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: Moving on, the Knicks are great because of CJ McCollum. 1000 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: When CJ McCollum hit that game winner in Game three 1001 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: of the first round for the Atlanta Hawks against the 1002 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: New York Knicks, the Knicks changed the way they play 1003 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: basketball and they're playing way better. Game four, that is 1004 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: when karl Anthony Town started to be that guy at 1005 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: the top of the key, at the top of the 1006 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,280 Speaker 1: three point arc, just fire and passes, fire and passes, 1007 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: and that's when ogn Andobi was able to cut baseline 1008 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: and be so good. He's been good in the whole series. 1009 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: But other guys, Michale Bridges started to pick it up. 1010 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: Josh Hart always good, and Jalen Brunson was able to 1011 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: be good off the passes and just not have to 1012 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: do as much bringing up the ball up the floor. 1013 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: And part of why they're better, I think not only 1014 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: is Carlinton Town's a giant man and able to have 1015 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: the vision to see over top of everybody and throw 1016 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: it to guys who are willing to cut, but it 1017 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: gets him involved earlier, and I think that is a 1018 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: great sign for the Nixon General to help him offensively, 1019 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 1: to help him defensively, but just to have Karlanthon Towns 1020 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: as part of every single possession and Jalen Brunson not 1021 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 1: having to mentally start every possession. Now they don't say, 1022 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: Karlenton Towns, you're the past for every possession because that's 1023 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: not what a good team does. But the good team 1024 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: also doesn't say, hey, Jalen Brunson, you're starting every possession 1025 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: and you're bringing it up every possession. That's why Tom 1026 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,240 Speaker 1: Thibodeaux leaves. It's a team sport still, That's what I've heard. 1027 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: But simply put, I think it makes him better and 1028 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: as good as og has been on his own, I 1029 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: think Carlton TUN's firing it to him has really helped. 1030 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: Six assists in that first game, four after McCollum hit 1031 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: that game winner that went directly to oj Anobi Carleton 1032 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: town Sith Tennasis, but six directly to him, So it's 1033 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: helped everything. It's really unlocked their team. It's happened to 1034 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: other teams in the history of the National Basketball Association 1035 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: where something happens in the playoffs and you click, like 1036 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: the injury that the Miami Heatles had and Chris Bosh 1037 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: went to the center spot. Sure, it's a different team. 1038 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: You can keep going. Hey, David Lee got injured, Draymond 1039 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: Green comes in. Other stuff happened there, you know, Mark Jackson, Lene. 1040 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: But this is something that clicked, and it's weird that 1041 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't really a part of their offense the entire season. 1042 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 2: It's pretty funny that we're like, oh, Mike Brown, this 1043 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 2: guy's an offensive genius. He decided to get the two 1044 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 2: best players the ball. We have one of the team's 1045 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 2: best players pass to the other teams the other best players. 1046 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 2: It's like, whoa brilliant strategy, Mike Brown. But it was. 1047 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 2: Everybody's been asking for the Knicks to have more variety 1048 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 2: in their offense, to have more cohesion from Towns and 1049 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 2: from Brunson, and those two playing so well together. Brunson 1050 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: being able to playoff Towns has just empowered everybody else. 1051 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: Og Anobi is playing with an advantage basketball. It feels 1052 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 2: like the entire time because Brunson will set him a backscreen, 1053 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 2: or Ogi will set a screen for Brunson. They chase 1054 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 2: after Brunson, then suddenly OG's open for a back door cut. 1055 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 2: It's been really, really impressive what the Knicks have done. 1056 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: This is why they needed to be tested a little 1057 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 2: bit in round one. I agree with what Ziggy saying 1058 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: here in the stream team. The Knicks basically have won 1059 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 2: every playoff game they've played so far. They just happened 1060 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 2: to blow two of them to the Hawks, and those 1061 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: two clutch games they lost by a single point. You know, 1062 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 2: they were up in both of them, or at least 1063 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: on the comeback trail as well. They've been good defensively 1064 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 2: as well, like no complaints about Town's defense at all 1065 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: so far. Josh Hart is barely scoring, but he's doing 1066 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 2: everything else. Bridges is thriving in transition, and that's just 1067 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: kind of keying him going forward. I'm a little concern 1068 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 2: Acus though. The hamstring strain for ogn Nanobi is interesting. 1069 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 2: They're saying he's day to day. He had a hamstring 1070 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 2: strain in the playoffs once upon a time, I believe 1071 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 2: it was twenty twenty four. I think he missed I 1072 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 2: don't know if he missed three games or four games, 1073 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 2: he missed four games or something like that. Yes, Luca 1074 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: had his hamstring strain, and we just heard him say 1075 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 2: the doctors told him eight weeks when it happened. Jalen 1076 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 2: Williams has been out for multiple weeks at this point, 1077 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 2: so it's impossible to know when Og comes back. And 1078 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,959 Speaker 2: he has been incredible for this Knicks team on both 1079 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 2: ends of the court. You know the defense is going 1080 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 2: to be there, but the way he's been rebounding in 1081 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 2: the playoffs and then the way he's shooting the three 1082 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 2: is crazy and just scoring very, very efficiently. He's a 1083 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: matchup nightmare, and if they don't have him, maybe that's 1084 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 2: why the Sixers are favored one and a half time. 1085 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it should swing the line that much, 1086 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 2: but Og has been really, really good and they're gonna 1087 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 2: need him back as healthy as possible for the next 1088 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 2: round because if you're forecasting the Pistons to be there 1089 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 2: Pistons versus Nicks, Og is the number one guy I 1090 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: would want on kid Cunningham. So I wonder if they 1091 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 2: kind of take their time with him returning during this 1092 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 2: series since we don't know Embiid's status as well, they 1093 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 2: seem to be in control. I wonder if they just 1094 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 2: take their time with Og, get him one hundred percent healthy, 1095 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 2: because they'll need him for conference finals and finals. 1096 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: For sure, totally that's what they should do. And by 1097 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: all the reports and all the talks, it's not a 1098 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: major injury. But you're right in that we don't know 1099 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 1: when it's gonna be okay for him to come back. 1100 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: It could be a week, but they will slow play it. 1101 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: I totally agree, and they should and they are in 1102 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: a good position being up to to do that and 1103 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: other guys to be able to chip in. And you 1104 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: have a revital Karl Anthony Towns to lead them along 1105 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: with Jalen Brunson. And because of that and what they 1106 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: did with Carlton Towns, mckel Bridges became a player. MIKEL 1107 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: Bridges was not a good player to start that playoff 1108 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: series against the Atlanta Hawks several games, took him several games, 1109 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 1: and both Jaylen Brunson playing awesome and Ogane and it'll 1110 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: be playing awesome. And then this Karl Anthony Towns replacement 1111 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 1: on the as far as the scheme goes, helped elevate 1112 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: mckel Bridges as well. So I think they feel comfortable 1113 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: slow playing og because mkel Bridges has played better and 1114 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: their depth feels like it is deeper and Karlthon Town's 1115 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 1: I just go flashback to early in that playoff series 1116 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: against Atlanta Hawks. There's some stretches like Carlton Down's coming 1117 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 1: up for his first six minutes before this new iteration 1118 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: of them, where it looked like he wasn't even playing. 1119 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't doing a lot, It wasn't I don't even 1120 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: know if he was playing. Then he went to the 1121 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: bench and I wondered, what did I even see all 1122 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: Anthon Town's play. But this is different in that again, 1123 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: just more involved. The numbers aren't spectacular for Karlington Towns 1124 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 1: like scoring wise, but it doesn't matter. We're just getting 1125 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: more out of him. And this is the version of 1126 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,879 Speaker 1: Brunson and Carlton Town's dead everybody thought Mike Brown would 1127 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: do six months ago, but here it is now and. 1128 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 2: They're like, they're playing defense. I think they got the 1129 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 2: second best, second best defense in the Eastern Conference through 1130 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 2: the playoffs so far, only behind Detroit, who you know, 1131 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 2: did have the benefit of playing against the Magic in 1132 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 2: round one. Not a lot of scoring to be done. 1133 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 2: There no discredit to the Pistons, they have been great, 1134 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 2: but the Knicks playing defense and their offense clicking. 1135 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: They look scary, no doubt. Okay, what's another hot take 1136 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: you got from these playoffs? 1137 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 2: I've got too much Draymond Green in my life right now. 1138 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 2: M Every time I open any timeline, I'm seeing Draymond 1139 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 2: versus Austin Rivers. I'm seeing Draymond versus Chuck and I 1140 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 2: do not care at all what this guy has to say, really, 1141 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 2: but I'm seeing it a lot. I'm seeing a lot 1142 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 2: of Austin Rivers versus Draymond. I did think it was 1143 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 2: funny that Draymond said he has the biggest bailout before 1144 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 2: the government. That was a hilarious line. There have been 1145 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 2: some funny lines, yeah, going back and forth, at least 1146 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 2: in that beef, the Draymond versus Austin Rivers. I thought 1147 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 2: his performance on the inside the NBA was a little lacking, 1148 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 2: though people were very upset that he went against that 1149 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 2: he went to Charles Barkley for not being his best 1150 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 2: self when he played with the Houston Rockets at the 1151 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: end of his career. But yeah, Draymond, to me, he 1152 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 2: is more of a podcaster than a broadcaster, if that 1153 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 2: makes sense. The way he was interacting with the other 1154 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 2: guys on inside, I thought was not playful enough. You 1155 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 2: gotta have a sense of joy on that set, and 1156 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 2: he has a sense of I want to beat you. 1157 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 2: In the debate, I. 1158 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: Would back and watch the Barkley thing. I think it's 1159 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: all how they interpret it and they feel about it, 1160 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: which determines how we feel about it. Let's say the 1161 00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: producers put up Charles Barkley in a Rockets uniform. He 1162 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: looks slightly bigger. You know, we'd all hear Ernie or 1163 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: Kenny say you were a little overweight. You know, there's 1164 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: a laugh, and then we're all like, oh, that's kind 1165 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: of okay. Like he didn't go at him and say 1166 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: you stink. Charles Barkley basically said, what is your goal 1167 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: here for the next year? What are you trying to 1168 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: do it? And then Draymond thought about it, you know, 1169 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: he said, well, basically, I don't want to be you 1170 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: in our Houston Rockets uniform. Crickets no response. If there 1171 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: was a little giggle, you know, maybe we'd look at it. 1172 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 2: What's that look like? 1173 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: What's that look like? What does that look like? Yeah, 1174 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,439 Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of a lot of love there, 1175 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: but like us the ESPN crew, it's weird to call 1176 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: him the ESPN crew. But the ESPN slash TNT crew. 1177 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: They're working hard now. They don't want to make these 1178 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: they don't want to get ripped, you know what I mean, 1179 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: Like they're working every day. They just I know, it's 1180 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We used to laugh. We still joke. 1181 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: We still say we had a bad game, bad playing basketball. 1182 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're not NBA players were not. 1183 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 2: But it kind of reminds me Draymond. The way Draymond 1184 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 2: was on his most recent appearance reminded me sort of 1185 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 2: of like when Shack first started going on inside and 1186 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 2: it was like, okay, man, just take a joke, have 1187 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 2: some fun. And Shaq grew into his role. He's become 1188 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 2: like the jester, you know, and he does have just 1189 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 2: a sense of playfulness on the outside. I don't know 1190 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 2: if that's Draymond's personality. 1191 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: But they didn't make a joke about Draymond. I mean, 1192 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: Draymond was the guy who made the. 1193 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 2: Mean Eventually they did. Oh, they read the stat to 1194 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 2: him that he's like the Kendrick Perkins of the NBA. 1195 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's good, And he didn't make he didn't have 1196 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: fun with that. 1197 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: He kind of laughed, kind of laughed, but you could 1198 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 2: tell he was upset. He just seems to take it 1199 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 2: very personally. And I think that's Chuck's charm is that 1200 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 2: we know he was a great player. He was a 1201 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 2: better player than Draymond was. Draymond maybe had a more 1202 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 2: successful career. Yeah, different scenarios for sure. But the thing 1203 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 2: with Chuck is that he can dish it out and 1204 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 2: he can take it. He does not mind being the 1205 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 2: butt of the joke at all. He's the butt a lot. 1206 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: He didn't say anything when Draymond Green basically said you 1207 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 1: were a fat guy when you had a Houston Rockets jersey. 1208 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 1: He didn't laugh or he didn't. It was silent. So 1209 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: that was kind of odd. Not to defend Draymond Green, 1210 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: but I mean, the question was what are you going 1211 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: to do in the future of your career and he 1212 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: tried to make a joke when it comes to that. 1213 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: As far as the Hey Austin Rivers versus Draymond Green thing, 1214 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's way worse. That's like two different podcasts 1215 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: record me talking trash about this other guy. That's like, 1216 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, when when Trey Young got into it with 1217 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley, like Okay, I have a conversa, go have 1218 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: a show. That would be good. But yeah, okay, I 1219 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 1: hear you. 1220 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 2: I did see Austin Rivers said Draymond play me one 1221 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,439 Speaker 2: on one. Would you watch Draymond versus Austin Rivers. Yeah, 1222 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: that would be weird. I'm probably taking Austin. I think 1223 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 2: I have too, you know one, I mean that definitely 1224 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 2: suits Austin Rivers more than it does Draymond. 1225 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: The other guy can shoot, you know. 1226 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he can dribble and do moves. I 1227 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: haven't seen a lot of that from Draymond, not since 1228 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: the Michigan State days. 1229 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the fun. 1230 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm just good. I'm just good on Draymond for right now. 1231 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. Yeah. 1232 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 2: And he's in my face right now. 1233 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: He's your algorithm. H I get it. I got it. 1234 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Last playoff hot take here, twenty twenty six, Bismack biambo 1235 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 1: Is twenty nineteen, Jordan Lloyd. Okay, this isn't This isn't 1236 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: apples apples here, but let me explain. In twenty nineteen, 1237 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors went to the NBA Finals against Golden State Warriors. 1238 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: In the finals, the Warriors lost, Kevin Durant, Clay Thompson 1239 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: was out. The Raptors decided we're going boxing one. We're 1240 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: just basically having one guy front guard Steph Curry. We 1241 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: gotta take him out of the game. And in their 1242 01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: practices they had a little known NBA player named Jorge 1243 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: and Lloyd take on the role of Steph Curry and 1244 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: run around and that's who we're going to guard. And 1245 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: he did that this year. It's different, but Bismack Biambo 1246 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: in the Spurs practices is basically going one on one 1247 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: with Victor webbin Yama. He is the guy who's trying 1248 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: to get Victor Webinyama to play against smaller, shorter guards 1249 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: who go or strong guys. Yeah yeah, yeah, stout dudes 1250 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: who get physical. That's what Bismack Biambo was doing in practice. 1251 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: They're just paying it to learn to help Victor Webnyama 1252 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: just chill out, calm down, take a hit and be 1253 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: comfortable in a game to adapt. Now it's not apples 1254 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: to apples because it's wem beyond offense. Well, Jordan Lloyd 1255 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: was trying to help the defense figure out how to 1256 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: run against Steph. But basically, what I'm saying is the 1257 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 1: guy in Jordan Lloyd that helped the Raptors understand how 1258 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: to play is similar to Bismack Beyambo here in this case, 1259 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: who doesn't play a lot. He's just out there to 1260 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: bang with Victor Rayman Yama to get him the most comfortable, 1261 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: to get this man with the mental IQU, the emotional 1262 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: IQ to understand what I got to do out there. 1263 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 1: So that's the comparison. That's where I'm going with it. 1264 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, And he's looking for a reserve guy who 1265 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 3: is being is still important to the team because of 1266 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 3: what he's bringing on the practice court, which in Bismack's 1267 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 3: case is just smashing into Lebby. 1268 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, let's line him up, bis Mack. 1269 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 2: You're just gonna run into him as many times as 1270 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 2: you possibly can. Yeah, Like, all right, let's let's do 1271 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 2: it for fifteen straight minutes. That's good. 1272 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 1273 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 2: If these guys played a legitimate one on one game, 1274 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 2: Bismack Biambo versus Victor Webbinyamo, what do you think the 1275 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 2: score would be? We're talking up to eleven. 1276 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Bismack would score. 1277 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine scoring. Yeah, he's going shaking bake 1278 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 2: step back threes. Yeah, you know, he's got to score 1279 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 2: over top when Byble maybe just runs through. 1280 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Now, bis Mack about had a far longer career than 1281 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Lloyd. It's surprising to me. Jordan Lloyd, this guy 1282 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: who played in Raptors practice, played only twelve games. The 1283 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: guy can score. 1284 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1285 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: If it's Jordan Lloyd versus Bismack Biyambo, I'm taking Jordan Lloyd. 1286 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: If it's Jordan. If it's Jordan Lloyd versus Victor Webanyama, 1287 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: he's scoring more than Bismack Byamba, that's for sure. But 1288 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: I ain't taken him. 1289 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you, Okay. Austin Rivers versus 1290 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Jordan Lloyd, who wins one. 1291 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:27,439 Speaker 1: B one Jordan Lloyd. 1292 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, Wow, we gotta set that one up. 1293 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 1: I gotta said it. 1294 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Lloyd's in his prime right now. But look, 1295 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 2: Bismack fifteen years in the NBA. Yeah, man, that's amazing. 1296 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: It is amazing. 1297 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 2: It is really great. 1298 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Listen. It happens to every big man where they have 1299 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: to just get hit, especially guys who plays sort of 1300 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 1: towards the perimeter, a slimmer guy, you know, seeing it 1301 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: with Dirk other guys. That's what Bismack Biyombo is for 1302 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Victor weman Yama on the practice court. Yeah, so there's 1303 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: a there's a connection there. Again, looked good through one 1304 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: practice from what we've seen. Sure it's happened great bumping buddy, 1305 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, he looked good there. And I mean Victormana 1306 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: look good in Game two against Randall or anybody who's 1307 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,439 Speaker 1: trying to just bop them, he was. He was able 1308 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: to absorb it and just deal it. 1309 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 2: I do have one last hot take for you. Okay, 1310 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna sound like I'm biased, but I promise you 1311 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 2: I'm not. Blake Griffin's FanDuel commercial is a modern classic. 1312 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the one where he's in the bar. 1313 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Luis Guzman is the bartender behind and they're talking about 1314 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 2: three pointers. And I just think it's so funny. I 1315 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 2: think the writing is so good. I think Blake's performance 1316 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 2: is so good. 1317 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I love it. 1318 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 2: I think the zings are hilarious. I like at the 1319 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 2: end when it like it really feels like Blake's feelings 1320 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 2: are hurt that Luis Guzman said, anybody can make it 1321 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 2: three in the playoffs if you've made twenty nine. Brother, 1322 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 2: there are a lot of commercials that have Blake Griffin 1323 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 2: on them right now. He's commercial break Blake every commercial 1324 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 2: or every break you're getting at and T or Wayfair 1325 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 2: or Wingstop or this FanDuel one. Of the four that 1326 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 2: he's got going right now, the FanDuel one is legitimately 1327 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 2: great and very very funny. 1328 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you're being biased at all, and not 1329 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: because I've actually seen this commercial, but because Blake Griffin's 1330 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: just good in commercials. 1331 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 2: He is good. He's a good pitch man. 1332 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've only seen the Wayfair one. I'm able to 1333 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: watch the NBA in arena feed on NBA dot com 1334 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: suit through lead pass essentially, but even that has stopped 1335 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 1: in the second round. I don't know why. On Apple 1336 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 1: it stopped on the actual computer or monitor. It's given 1337 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 1: me the opportunity, though, to see some more Blake Griffin. 1338 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, he's a funny guy. The Wayfair one's good too, 1339 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: So I don't think you're being biased at all. 1340 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 2: I gotta say, oh, thank you, presented by Fandom and 1341 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 2: presented this hot takee presented by Fandom. He is just 1342 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 2: solid twenty nine brother. I think it's so funny. He 1343 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 2: seems like a guy that would jokingly brag about making 1344 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 2: twenty nine career playoff threes. 1345 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: So how is Luis Guzman's performance? 1346 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 2: He does good. Yeah, he does his part as well. 1347 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 2: Don't you worry? 1348 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 1: All right, before we get to rapid fire, it's time 1349 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 1: for a little woboy. It's that line of the night. 1350 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: It's brought to you by Brent Ferrari. Vroom, vroom, our 1351 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: old friend, Brent Ferrari. Brent wrote in this Brent, he 1352 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: wants to call it dough Boy of the Night because 1353 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 1: nerd alert. I am a member of the greatest Star 1354 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Realms dodgeball team ever assembled. Donut Chop Revivant, affectionately known 1355 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 1: as the Donuts. Our captain Carl aka Chasmo is the 1356 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: donut Man himself or is he? I recently learned that Chaz, 1357 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: based outside of Philly, had no idea what a long 1358 01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 1: John was. Apparently long John's aren't a thing in Pennsylvania. Okay, listen, listen, 1359 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know the long John here. 1360 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Just reread these sentences. 1361 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know our captain Carl aka Chasmo is the 1362 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 4: donut Man himself? Or is I recently learned that Chaz 1363 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 4: had no idea what a long John was. 1364 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: Chaz doesn't know what a long John is. He's not 1365 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the donut man, is he the donut man. He even 1366 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 1: went so far as to deny the Long John its 1367 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,759 Speaker 1: donut status. It was a betrayal that struck our hearts. 1368 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 1: I know my North Central and an Illinois boy, Trey 1369 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 1: was getting those long Johns at Casey's General Store, and 1370 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 1: I believe Tim Morton's carried them for the rest of 1371 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 1: you lads in plaid well, Brent was was writ and 1372 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: like he was writing a FanDuel commercial here since our 1373 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Vancouver teammate knew what they were, can you help me 1374 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: get the Long John the respect it deserves as a 1375 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,679 Speaker 1: classic donut. Shout out to the rest of the donuts, John, Juan, Kevin, 1376 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Phil and Adam. 1377 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Okay, right, that's a great paragraph. 1378 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 1: What do you think about long John as a donut? 1379 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: Before we get to the actual stat line of the night. 1380 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I gotta say Chasmo makes some good points. No 1381 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 2: hole and no hole, but a filled donut doesn't have 1382 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 2: a hole either. But I do think if donuts as 1383 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 2: circular not stiicular. That being said, uh, you know, yeah, 1384 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 2: Referrari's right, I have bought a long John from Casey's generals. 1385 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 2: He's singing my life with his words basically here. So 1386 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 2: I don't know where do you come in on this, JD. 1387 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 2: Is a long john a donut? 1388 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:36,600 Speaker 1: You got a. 1389 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 2: Yeased to dough? 1390 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: And did you see them at tim Hortons? Because I don't. 1391 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: I mean I've I've seen long donuts before. Yeah, because 1392 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: it is a long door. 1393 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 5: I've never heard them referred to as a long john 1394 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 5: before that. 1395 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: They were called that at Tim Horton's. I do believe 1396 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: for a while they discontinued them. And for the people 1397 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: out there who don't know what a long john is, 1398 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: because I'm sure some people don't know, it's more of 1399 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:02,600 Speaker 1: like an A Claire sort of thing. Yes, yes, yeah, 1400 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: but the word donut is yeah, I understand where Chaz 1401 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 1: is going. Yeah, it's not a classic, not classic. 1402 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 2: I like it. 1403 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:16,440 Speaker 5: I like a hole, like you say, Trey, Yeah. 1404 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 2: Like I love a hole. 1405 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. And let and to get into the nerd, the 1406 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 1: nerd side of things here as far as donuts go, 1407 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,759 Speaker 1: some people say, you know, the chocolate dip is basically 1408 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: basically the equivalently because apparently. Sometimes the Long John's are 1409 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: just chocolate on top of sure, and there ain't no 1410 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: cream on the inside. Sometimes so too much dough Okay, 1411 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: that's enough, that's enough doughnut talk. Is the doe boy 1412 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: of the night, though it is the dobone of the 1413 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: night for you, Brent Ferrari and for all of the 1414 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,719 Speaker 1: rest of the donuts, John, Juan, Kevin, Jill and Adam, 1415 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: but not you, Chazz. 1416 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 2: Captain, carl A Ka, Chas Moth. He's the donut man 1417 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 2: himself or is he? 1418 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 1: Stat of the night goes to Chas Holmgren chet Holmgrin 1419 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 1: had twenty two points, nine boards, three assists, four steals, 1420 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 1: two blocks. It was hard to say because he did 1421 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 1: a lot. Three of those blocks or excuse me, three 1422 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: of those boards were offensive three threes to get into 1423 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 1: it even more to turnovers. Oh, it's a nice dessert 1424 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: as well. Turnovers, turnovers not a donut. That's not a donut. 1425 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 2: That's been so good man. Yeah, I think he's been 1426 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,679 Speaker 2: thunder best player this round so far, this round. Yeah, 1427 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean credit to the Lakers for taking Shay out 1428 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,759 Speaker 2: of the game a little bit. I mean he's still 1429 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 2: scoring twenty a game. But that's quite the departure from 1430 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 2: what we saw from SGA during the regular season, and 1431 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 2: Chet has really stepped up from an offensive standpoint. We 1432 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 2: know he's going to bring it on the defensive ends 1433 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 2: stick six stocks there, but his shooting, his activity on 1434 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,440 Speaker 2: the offensive class, he's been incredible. 1435 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 1: And this has been his best playoffs. You know, it's 1436 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 1: only six games in, but it's better than what he 1437 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 1: was able to accomplish for the entirety of the finals run. 1438 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: He's doing way more shooting, way more efficiently. That's so scary. 1439 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 1: Moving on to our Substack founding members, Well, member, we 1440 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 1: had one new one. Thank you to Nick Gordon. 1441 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 3: Nick. 1442 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: Here is your red carpet you Nick, it's a it's 1443 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 1: a wonderful effect here or graphic, you know the intro 1444 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,639 Speaker 1: here that you got JD where Nick Gordon is walking 1445 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: down the red carpet, not the actual Nick Gordon but 1446 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 1: his name. So thank you Nick for jumping on substack 1447 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 1: and becoming a founding member of our page. Very much 1448 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 1: respect it and appreciated. Moving on to our rapid fire 1449 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: fun Yeah, baby, JD. You got the questions, we got 1450 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,640 Speaker 1: the answers, and so do you sucker. 1451 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 6: Yes, I have the questions, I have the fader on 1452 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 6: the music and here we go. Timothy Shalla May posted 1453 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 6: a video of himself on Instagram draining a three in 1454 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 6: an empty Madison Square garden. The Knicks replied to the 1455 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 6: post quote, check your DMS. We just sent you a 1456 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 6: ten day Wow. Guys, what celebrity are you signing for 1457 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 6: your rec league team for a week? 1458 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 5: Tessie the Rock. 1459 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,679 Speaker 1: I had to think about this for a long time, 1460 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: but I am curious just to see if the Rock 1461 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 1: can play basketball because he's an athlete obviously, you know, 1462 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: great in the ring, great on a football field. But 1463 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: can he play basketball? I mean I didn't go and 1464 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 1: search the web to see if I've ever seen but 1465 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: he's also is he too big to play basketball? He's 1466 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: too muscular to have flexibility. 1467 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 5: Have you ever seen his arms over his head? 1468 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 2: That's a great question. Could he get the ball up right? 1469 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 1: Those big old del I don't know. I mean, you've 1470 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: watched more movies of the Rock than I have. It's 1471 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:06,719 Speaker 1: probably put some names in. 1472 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 5: On on the screen. 1473 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 6: He's in incredible shape, but I've never seen him. 1474 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever seen him throw anything. 1475 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, in in football. When he went to college, 1476 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: she was a linebacker. Yeah, I think so. So he 1477 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 1: wasn't throwing. I mean, he wasn't part of the offense. 1478 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:31,920 Speaker 2: There are photos of him touching of basketball. I can 1479 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 2: guarantee that Dwayne Johnson has held a basketball in his life. 1480 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 1: But about an NBA game, I don't think great. 1481 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I have either. He's had a 1482 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 2: lot of movies. But you know, in general, like at 1483 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 2: least for American sports like wrestling and basketball same time, 1484 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 2: so you're kind of choosing one or the other. Wrestlers 1485 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,839 Speaker 2: don't always translate to basketball players. 1486 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Oh, like you're saying in high school. 1487 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 2: You're saying, I assume it wrest in high school. I 1488 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 2: don't know. 1489 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta assume that. But that's the calendar 1490 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,160 Speaker 1: in high school. They cross over. Yeah, winter sports. Yeah okay, 1491 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 1: but interesting to see. 1492 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 2: That's what such a nice screen he shut on the glass, 1493 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,599 Speaker 2: that's for sure. Yeah, he's got his skills. 1494 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: He's got skills to uh Trey Adam Sandler. 1495 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the guy that you know see 1496 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,679 Speaker 2: playing at the park sometimes even with Timothy Shallome himself. 1497 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 2: That's a guy that I never thought would be in 1498 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,640 Speaker 2: my life for thirty years. I think he's doing red 1499 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 2: hooded sweatshirt on Saturday. Laugh hilarious. So I was laughing 1500 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 2: a lot. But then he like made some movies that 1501 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 2: I loved when I was young, and then he made 1502 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 2: some movies that I hated while I was less young, 1503 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 2: and then he made some movies that I love when 1504 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,360 Speaker 2: I was old. So he's stuck around and he stayed 1505 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 2: on the court. Only guy that I've ever seen playing 1506 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 2: like a button down shirt. That sounds like it'd be fun. 1507 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:53,839 Speaker 5: Wow, how ironic. 1508 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 6: He plays basketball and a button down but he shows 1509 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,959 Speaker 6: up to everything in basketball gear, right like the Oscars. 1510 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what to expect from him. 1511 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 6: Guy's a mogul for me. I don't play basketball, as 1512 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 6: you know, but I do play pickleball. I have a 1513 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 6: pickleball league, so I you know, Jamie Fox plays pickleball, 1514 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 6: but I've seen him play. I think I could beat him, honestly, Sorry, 1515 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 6: Jamie Wow. 1516 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that'd be cool. I beat Jamie Fox, I know. 1517 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I want him on my team. Yeah, I'm looking. 1518 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 6: I'm scouting for somebody to like a ringer sort of thing. 1519 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 6: So I'm going to Leonardo DiCaprio, who I have not 1520 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 6: seen play, but rumor has it he's very good. 1521 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 1: Nice Sam, Are you taking Jamie Fox one on one? 1522 01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Is that how you're going to beat him? No? 1523 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 5: No, no partner? 1524 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Okay for sure. And how's the how's the team doing 1525 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: its playoffs? Right? 1526 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get to that in my third answer, right, cool? Okay, yeah, 1527 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:03,480 Speaker 6: next one. In the meantime, New York Basketball tweeted a photo. 1528 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:05,679 Speaker 5: I have it here. 1529 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 6: Of Larry Johnson, John Starks, Patrick Ewing, and Bernard King 1530 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 6: sitting courtside in the next game. But behind them is 1531 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 6: some random dude in a backwards cap, staring dead into 1532 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 6: the camera like he absolutely belongs at Captain Pearl NYC NYK. 1533 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 5: Sorry. 1534 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 6: I retweeted it with a caption, if I'm bro with 1535 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 6: the backwards hat, this is getting framed in my house. Guys, 1536 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 6: what four legends would you most want to photobomb for 1537 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 6: a frameworthy picture in your house? 1538 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:40,759 Speaker 5: Tasty? 1539 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 1: Great question. I need something more Canadian in my house, 1540 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have the bare naked ladies in front 1541 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:50,320 Speaker 1: of me. 1542 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 5: Now, Stephen Page in there, Stephen Page there. 1543 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,520 Speaker 1: That was the first thing I was going to say, 1544 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 1: Do you think that's important. 1545 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,679 Speaker 5: Yes, I do. 1546 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Okay, gotta have him the lead singer, is that right? 1547 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 6: He was, but he left what he put on clothes. 1548 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 6: He put on clothes out there. 1549 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 1: Guy's been going for like twenty years. 1550 01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,679 Speaker 5: Maybe ten years, maybe twenty actually, yeah. 1551 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: Something like that for long maybe seventh whatever, but very 1552 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 1: very important. Ed Robertson, Tyler Stewart, and then Jim Kreagan 1553 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,320 Speaker 1: would be my fourth. All right, sorry Kevin Hearn. When 1554 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 1: I had to cut somebody, there's only four people, but 1555 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 1: you can probably squeeze in Kevin. So yeah, I'm happy 1556 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 1: with that. 1557 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah. Uh for me, it would 1558 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,759 Speaker 2: be the cast of Oceudents eleven. Maybe they get together 1559 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 2: to one last Heistan or something. So uh, Pitt Damon 1560 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 2: Clooney me just walking into the background as well as 1561 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 2: he part of the crew. I don't know. I wasn't 1562 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,200 Speaker 2: sure who to picked for a fourth Janie. Who's the 1563 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 2: most legendary of the rest of the Ocean's eleven crew, 1564 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 2: Like I would have chosen Bernie mac but rip. 1565 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, what about Cheetle Cheatle was high on the list. 1566 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Elliott Gold is a longtime legends. 1567 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: He's still alive. 1568 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 5: He must be alive. 1569 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,800 Speaker 2: Great question. I don't know, but yeah, so I mostly 1570 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 2: want Pitt, Damon and Clooney, but yeah, yeah, anybody else. 1571 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:13,879 Speaker 2: I'll even take Scott con. 1572 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 1: Sure, man. I thought I thought about Clooney for a 1573 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 1: while here. I thought he could be on my wreck 1574 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 1: team for some reason. I don't know why. 1575 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 2: He was part of Basketball Player. Yeah, good pickup game 1576 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 2: or something. 1577 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 5: We got a prequel coming up as well, I believe questions. Prequel. Yeah, 1578 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 5: just what we needed. 1579 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: Guys. 1580 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,639 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what Danny Ocean was up to before. All 1581 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,559 Speaker 2: that means me, I guess we'll see. 1582 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,440 Speaker 6: Who are your photobom I am photo bombing Zoey Kravitz, 1583 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,759 Speaker 6: Michelle Pfiffer and Hathaway and Halle Berry. 1584 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 5: What do they all have in common? 1585 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:52,360 Speaker 6: You may ask anyone anyone, same again, Zoe Kravitz, Michelle Pfiffer, 1586 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 6: Ann Hathaway, and Halle Berry. 1587 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 2: They are all catwomen. 1588 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 5: There are all catwomen. Very good, Trey. 1589 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:05,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then just me in the background, like the 1590 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 6: backwards hat guy. 1591 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:09,679 Speaker 5: That's such a great photo. 1592 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 2: That is so funny. That's really really good. 1593 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 5: I would frame that too. 1594 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 6: Okay, last one, guys, we had a pigeon at MSG 1595 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,640 Speaker 6: this week. These are all MSG related figure and it 1596 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 6: fell to Andre dum Drummond to dislodge the ball from 1597 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 6: the top of the stanchion. He failed spectacularly, The booze 1598 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 6: rained down, and Carl Anthony Towns eventually had to step 1599 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 6: up and handle the operation. Guys, when's the time you 1600 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,479 Speaker 6: had to bail someone out? 1601 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 5: Tasks? 1602 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, I was in Cleveland. Actually, we went to a 1603 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Raptors Caves basketball game a long long time ago, regular season. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 1604 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,599 Speaker 1: with some friends and we all got separated and at 1605 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: some point we couldn't find one of our friends because 1606 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:03,680 Speaker 1: he was taking away to the drunk tank. So so 1607 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,560 Speaker 1: the night just went uh and uh. 1608 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 6: I think in the evening quicker than a friend getting 1609 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:11,960 Speaker 6: thrown into the. 1610 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,639 Speaker 1: Game in Cleveland and another country at the time, being 1611 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 1: Canadian at the time, so that was different. But he 1612 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 1: got out. 1613 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 5: You bailed him up? 1614 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the other guys really did. I said, screw that. 1615 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to bail him up. No, I didn't 1616 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,759 Speaker 1: say that. But the other I was there. They weren't 1617 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,480 Speaker 1: close friends, so they were they were more actual friends 1618 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,719 Speaker 1: with this guy. I was just there. I was just there. 1619 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: I was I was kenjiong and hangover, you know, like 1620 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:48,200 Speaker 1: I was there naked in a trunk right right. But 1621 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 1: he got out and then we're all everybody else was 1622 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,719 Speaker 1: Then we all went and got depressed in our hotel 1623 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,639 Speaker 1: room waiting for him to get out. So, sad, are 1624 01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: you friends with this guy? I was never really friends 1625 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,559 Speaker 1: with me. So I was friends with the one guy 1626 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: that led the led the whole trip, And no, I'm 1627 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:10,760 Speaker 1: not friends with him. Skeets would like this story. I'm 1628 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,880 Speaker 1: not going to say anybody's names, but we would say 1629 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 1: it off the air and he would say, oh, yeah, okay, 1630 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: sucks you didn't like him. Yeah, anyways, we'll stop there. 1631 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's important to have one friend of your 1632 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 2: friends that you actually hate veryant not back at. 1633 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 5: Trey, when was the last time you had to bail 1634 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 5: someone out? 1635 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,879 Speaker 2: Not someone, but something. Back when we still had Wilbur, 1636 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 2: he would sometimes attack animals, small critters in our backyard, 1637 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 2: and one time he tried to attack a baby squirrel 1638 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 2: maybe did a little damage. So the squirrel was struggling 1639 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,720 Speaker 2: and Laura made me sit out in a chair to 1640 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 2: protect the baby squirrel because she was worried that like 1641 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Wilbur would come back and try and finished the job 1642 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, So I sat and baby sat this 1643 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,200 Speaker 2: squirrel for probably half an hour. 1644 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 5: Wow, where was the squirrels just in your yard? 1645 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,600 Speaker 2: It was just like limping around in the backyard, you know. 1646 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 2: So I was just keeping an eye on to make 1647 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 2: sure we'll wilbyeh yeh. You know, like I left and 1648 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 2: surely that squirrel is totally fine. 1649 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 5: There was no other predators out there, right, Oh no. 1650 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 2: Nothing bad could happen this squirrel that's injured without me watching. 1651 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure it existed continue to live after that. 1652 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 2: But I was trying to do my part because we 1653 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,559 Speaker 2: don't have enough squirrels around here. We're really lacking. 1654 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 1: That's right. 1655 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,799 Speaker 6: It's just a matter of time before this this studio 1656 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 6: just shuts down on the air because the squirrel has 1657 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 6: nod through. 1658 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah the power. Oh yeah yeah. 1659 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 5: And when that happens, I'm going to just assume it's 1660 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:53,640 Speaker 5: that squirrel. 1661 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 2: Trying to find me. 1662 01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1663 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 6: So the last time I had to bail someone out 1664 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 6: was this Monday. Guys, we were talking about how I 1665 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 6: was very scared that they were going to play me 1666 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 6: in our pickleball playoffs, and I play. They did play 1667 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,679 Speaker 6: me with Rachel, who is by far, she's s tier 1668 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,120 Speaker 6: on the team. I'm like ce tier on the team. 1669 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 6: But we usually played pretty well together. But she was 1670 01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 6: not having a great night. So I had to bail 1671 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,760 Speaker 6: her out and we won. We won, We won two 1672 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 6: out of three. I was like standing on my head 1673 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,639 Speaker 6: like a goalie, you know, just walking those shots back 1674 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 6: and forth. And now we're in the semis and thankfully 1675 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 6: they are not playing me. 1676 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,719 Speaker 5: But she would even admit she would. 1677 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 6: I asked her before we came on, like, is it 1678 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,920 Speaker 6: okay if I tell them how you basically shit the 1679 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 6: bed on Monday. He's like, yeah, it's fine, it's fine, 1680 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,760 Speaker 6: because but basically they iced her out right like they 1681 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 6: I think they did some scouting and they knew right 1682 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 6: away that she was by far the better player, so. 1683 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:01,560 Speaker 5: They just target me. 1684 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 6: And then you know, when that happens, she a gets 1685 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,680 Speaker 6: kind of mad about it, and b she started her 1686 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,679 Speaker 6: she's not locked in, so then when the ball does come. 1687 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 5: To her, she she struggles, you know. 1688 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 6: So but I bailed her out and we're in the 1689 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:16,719 Speaker 6: semis and it's huge. 1690 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 2: That's like a clutch playoff performance. 1691 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, game planning against Rachel, people were like, I have 1692 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 6: never seen you play like that, Like you're like diving 1693 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:27,639 Speaker 6: all over the totally. 1694 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:27,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1695 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 6: I was just hitting everything, like the shots that normally 1696 01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 6: just goed right into the net or fly off out 1697 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 6: of the court. 1698 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,720 Speaker 5: I was just hitting. It was just everything came in 1699 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:38,080 Speaker 5: the scene. 1700 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,320 Speaker 1: Wow. So and so why not why are you not 1701 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 1: playing the semifinal. 1702 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 5: Because I'm not that I'm still not that good. 1703 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's in, and she's she has her normal partner 1704 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,040 Speaker 6: with with the team, and he is much much better. 1705 01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 5: So that's fine. I'm gonna be there. 1706 01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 2: Sounds like you did your part. 1707 01:25:58,920 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 5: I did my part. 1708 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in the semis, one step away from city finals. 1709 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,080 Speaker 5: Everybody's very excited. 1710 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, how big of a tournament is it? 1711 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 5: I mean it's final so it's like the city wide 1712 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, good. 1713 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Look, Well we'll save save this for the pickleball podcast 1714 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 1: that you get back at. But I do want to know, no, 1715 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 1: this part is somebody picked out a lot of the 1716 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,559 Speaker 1: time in doubles because yeah, yeah, you always go after 1717 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 1: the weaker player, yeah yeah, and then what is the 1718 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 1: other the strong player? They basically just have to either 1719 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 1: sit there and wait for it to come to them 1720 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 1: or they get aggressive and then they cover, they cover 1721 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,680 Speaker 1: the other side, and then that's what you exploit, that 1722 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 1: weakness on the on their backhand. 1723 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 6: It's all very involved, but a lot of strategy. It 1724 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,480 Speaker 6: sounds like there is definitely strategy. 1725 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,720 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for all those answers, because we went 1726 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 1: to air and you are still wondering, Oh, I don't 1727 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 1: have an answer for a particular whole questions and then boom, 1728 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 1: three big ones, three big answer. 1729 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I forgot that. I had to answer that 1730 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,160 Speaker 6: because Skeets. 1731 01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Wasn't Jamie, you're just reading the Catwoman photo. 1732 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:17,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1733 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 6: We started with Hathaway and I'm like, what else? What 1734 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,120 Speaker 6: can I do with Hathaway? And then I built around. 1735 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 1: Her Who's who's also ms? She related she. 1736 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 6: Had a scene with Karl Anthony town on the latest 1737 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 6: Double the Worst Product. 1738 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how was it? 1739 01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,519 Speaker 5: It's fun? I mean, I gave my bums down. 1740 01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 1: But the movie, the movie, it was good, but I 1741 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 1: gave it a story. 1742 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 5: And I don't know if you like that ship the 1743 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 5: first one is great. 1744 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's it for No Dunks Today. There was 1745 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 1: some chitter chatter about us streaming the NBA Draft Lottery 1746 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon. We'll see if that happens the afternoon. Yeah, 1747 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:04,920 Speaker 1: on a Mother's Day, the afternoon. I thought it was 1748 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 1: a night event. 1749 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 2: It's like at three o'clock or something. Right, biggest Bulls 1750 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 2: game of the year, though, kind of feel like I 1751 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,880 Speaker 2: got to tune in. I'm sure that's what Laura actually 1752 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,320 Speaker 2: wants to do. What do you want to do for 1753 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,599 Speaker 2: Mother's Day? Watched the Draft lottery right, totally? 1754 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if floors up for it, now, if we 1755 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 1: decided to do it, join our YouTube. No Dunk's page 1756 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,760 Speaker 1: will be streaming for that half hour of glory for 1757 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,680 Speaker 1: some teams. I cann't believe Vince Carter is going to 1758 01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,600 Speaker 1: be the Brooklyn Nets representative. I just find that that. 1759 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,840 Speaker 2: Was surprising to me. Yeah, he's the nuts. I saw 1760 01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 2: the Bulls have coup coach. Hopefully he has good luck. 1761 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 1: Any predictions for tonight, even though you think that the 1762 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,120 Speaker 1: Knicks should be favored. 1763 01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,599 Speaker 2: I do think the Nicks should be favored. Hopefully it's 1764 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,840 Speaker 2: a nice tight game though, But I'm super interested in Minnesota. 1765 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 2: San Antonio first game in Minnesota. That feels like it's 1766 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 2: going to be a banger. 1767 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it'll be a loud one too. All right, maybe 1768 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,839 Speaker 1: we'll see a Sunday, but we'll definitely be back Monday. 1769 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,520 Speaker 1: But for now, Clipper Bros, you heard it here first. 1770 01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,760 Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up, Love you guys awesome. 1771 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:18,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, And in the words of Anthony Edwards, mom, 1772 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,680 Speaker 1: a hardhead makes a soft. 1773 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,000 Speaker 2: Ass, embrace the other people. 1774 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 1: That's the line.