1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous young woman gunned 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: down in her own home. Something was off about the investigation. 3 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: What happened to Alicia Michelle Canalis McGuire. I'm Nancy Grace. 4 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven. First 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: of all, take a listen to this. Detectives still have 7 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: the road closed out here, so we have not had 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: any access to where the shooting happened. In fact, you 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: can't even see the home from where we are. This 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: Nahomish County Medical Examiner unseen after a young woman was 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: shot and killed in a home near Everett. It was 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: around two o'clock this morning when people called nine one 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: to report gunshots fired in the thirty one hundred block 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: of York Road. When deputies arrived, they found a young 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: woman dead inside the doorway of a duplex. We all 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: just woke up and looked out the windows. Brandon Blevins 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: lives in the neighborhood and woke up to the gunshots. 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: His roommate called nine one one. They didn't see a 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: car drive off, but that could have been any card. 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: The Sheriff's office says three children and another woman were 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: also inside the home during the shooting. Detectives interviewed that woman, 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: but a sheriff spokeswoman says there were no eye witnesses 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: when the shots were fired. This time, we still don't 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: have a suspect identified. We're still following up on leeds. 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: L as I said, this is an active homicide investigation. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Throughout the morning, detectives waited for a search for it 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to begin collecting evidence at the home, gunshots ringing out 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night around two am. According 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: to our Francy at KOMO that you just heard the victim, 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: an unarmed young woman age twenty four, answers the door 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: seemingly and gets gunned down right there at the threshold 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: to the home. Why no one in the home sees 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: a thing with me? And I'll start panel to make 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now. First of all, 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: Dante Pride, attorney and founder of the Pride Law Firm. 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: You can find her at Victim Lawyer dot com. Doctor 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Crossen, psychologist, faculty Saint Leo University, consultant and author 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: of Operations. Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville, State University, 39 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and Star 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: for a brand new you hit series on iHeart Bodybags 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: with Joe Scott Morgan. But first I want to go 42 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: to Ellen Dennis, reporter with a Daily Harold and Everett. Ellen, 43 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. That's a very bizarre 44 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: set of facts because the person the victim, seemingly comes 45 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: to the door. You don't have a home invasion, you 46 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: don't have a burglary, you don't have anything stolen, you 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: don't have a sex assault. So the woman comes, so 48 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: the door is gunned down at the door. The victim 49 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: opened her door roughly around two am that morning, and 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: she was shot multiple times too. Dante Pride joining us 51 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: at turning out of San Diego and founder of the 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Pride Law Firm. Dante again, thank you for being with us. 53 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: You know how many times have I argued to juries 54 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: nothing good happens after midnight. I mean, two am, somebody 55 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: knocks at your door. I'm not blaming the victim at all, 56 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: but two am, right, there should have been a tip 57 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: off that something is very wrong. Absolutely two am in 58 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: the morning for any you know, law abiding citizen at 59 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the time. That would be absolutely insane to have someone 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: knocking your door, and I'm not sure that she didn't 61 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: feel that way when she answered the door. We don't know. Yeah, 62 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: we'll never know. Do we know, Ellen Dennis joining us 63 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: from the Daily Herald there in Everett. Do we know 64 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: how many times she was shot or anything about the 65 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: shooting at all? So dozens of people allegedly spoke with 66 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: detectives in the hours after the shooting. Neighbors testified in 67 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: court that they heard sound resembling a sledgehammer. One said 68 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: that they went to a man a window and saw 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: a man running. Wow, that's a lot of evidence right there. 70 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: From what I'm understanding to you, Justice Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, 71 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: the victim was shot multiple times and that's telling me 72 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: a lot. Ah, she died instantly, but b what would 73 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: have been the motive? There was again, no home invasion, 74 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: no burglary, no rate, nothing was stolen that we know of. 75 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about an individual being shot 76 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: in multiple times, Nancy, that's an indication of one of 77 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: two things. Either the individual is making sure that the 78 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: subject is in fact deceased at that moment time, or 79 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: they're not very practiced at doing this sort of thing, 80 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, like a professional killer. Say, for instance, if 81 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: it was some trained army marksmen, they might fire one 82 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: time to take the individual down, very sure of the 83 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: shot that they're taking. There's another big takeaway here, Nancy. 84 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: It's not like this is kind of randomized where she 85 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: shot out in the yard and there's a car driving by, 86 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: she came to the door. What does that indicate, Well, 87 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: there was perhaps a knock at the door, the doorbell rang, 88 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: she opened the door, So that gives you an indication 89 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: of proximity. And one more thing, we do know that 90 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: she was shot multiple times, five times, Joe Scott. I 91 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: found out five times, and so that's even a bigger 92 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: indicator of the fact of proximity. Nancy. That if you 93 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: can put five rounds on target on target, now five 94 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: of them, that means you're really really close or highly 95 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: highly skilled. I'm thinking you're really close. I mean, let's 96 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: talk about it. If you've got a handgun, how many 97 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: bullets are in the chamber Joe Scott, Well, it's going 98 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: to be depended upon the type of firearm. If it's 99 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: a revolver, probably only six. But if you're talking about 100 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: some semi automatic weapons you can have stacked in there. 101 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: You can have up to seventeen rounds, perhaps with one 102 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: in the chamber. Let's just go with six in the chamber, 103 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: and they shot five times and hit the target five times. 104 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: Obviously at close range, But if you're trying to figure 105 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: out if it was at close range, you would look 106 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: at the victim's body and you would look for, for instance, 107 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: gunshot residue. Was the gun less than thirty six inches 108 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: away from the body, which would That's how you find 109 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: gunshot residue. If you're further away, the residue doesn't hit 110 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the clothing or the body. That's wide. Defendants often have 111 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: their hands tested for GSR gunshot residue. If they're the shooter, 112 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: they may very well have the residue on their hands. 113 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: You will look for burning stippling. What would you look 114 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: for to find out if she was shot at close range? 115 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: Joe Scott, Yeah, when one of the best examples I've 116 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: ever heard to give, Nancy, I got to have you 117 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: come over and teach for me. Sometimes the fact that 118 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: you'd like to use the water hose description, where you 119 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: know the further you are away, the more broad the 120 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: spray pattern is. As you approach to the target, it's 121 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: going to be tighter and tighter. So not only will 122 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: you have a defect or hole where the bullet actually enters, 123 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: but you will have a powder ring that surrounds and 124 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: the tighter that area is as far as the distribution 125 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: of the you know, as you put the gunpowder residue 126 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: or the unburned powder that's burned into the skin, or 127 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: perhaps the clothing, that's going to give you an indication 128 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: of range of fire. Once you get outside that, some 129 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: people will say from eighteen inches to thirty six inches, 130 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: it begins to kind of fall away because powder, it's 131 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: not like a bullet. It doesn't have any aerodynamic quality, 132 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: so it just kind of floats to the ground. Outside 133 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: of that, it's an indeterminate range. But I'm betting, I'm 134 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: betting you're going to find some kind of powder on 135 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: this young woman's body, guaranteed, kind of Jerry Crossen, joining 136 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: US psychologists on the faculty at Saint Leo University, and 137 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: author and consultant doctor Jory I, often refer to, for instance, 138 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: stabbing and strangling deaths as sweetheart murders, not that there's 139 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: any love lost between them. The victim and the killer. 140 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: But that year, it's an intimate killing in that you're 141 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: very close to the victim in proximity. A close range 142 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: shooting would have the same characteristics. You're in close range 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: to the victim. You're not taking a pot shot out 144 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: of the car window like the Miami serial killer. You 145 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: are up close and personal to your victim. And that's 146 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: a whole other type of psychopathy. The personality is different 147 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: from say a sniper. Yeah, close like this with a 148 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: firearm usually reveals, you know, somebody that wants to get 149 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: in quick and leave quick, you know, So it comes 150 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: down to time. They want to be ontar, do their 151 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: deed and get out of there, versus, like you said, 152 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: stabbing that's close and personal. That takes a little bit 153 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: more time. They get to see the effect of their 154 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, their work that they've done with a knife. 155 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: We're shooting is just you know, you go five shots 156 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: and body massing, you're out of there. So it comes 157 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: out close. You would see the victim recoil, you would 158 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: see her in pain. You would see her crumple to 159 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: the ground. Some of these shots had to be while 160 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: she's already down on the ground, probably wearing her pj's 161 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: at home in the background. You've got children and a babysitter. 162 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut two. This is Christian 163 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: jew Komo. Yeah, it just doesn't feel fair. It's hard 164 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: to imagine being in Amanda Lewis's situation. Her sister, Alicia 165 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: Canalis McGuire was murdered five months ago and no one 166 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: has been arrested. It's hard enough losing someone you know 167 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: we were so close to but not having justice for it. 168 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: And this person is just walking around like nothing ever 169 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: happened and living their life. That's hard to swallow. Alicia 170 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: was shot at Amanda's home near Everett. At the time, 171 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Amanda was out of town for work, so her sister 172 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: was staying here to help the nanny with Amanda's three kids. 173 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Deputies found Alicia's body near the front door after the 174 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: nanny called nine one one. I was just just a 175 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: really horrible time. Since the murder, detectives have not released 176 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: any information about a person of interest or suspect, and 177 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: the affidavit for a search warrant, a detective wrote there 178 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: was a lack of probable cause for a suspect in 179 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: this case. He said the violence associated with the murder 180 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: is disturbing, and that it appears to be a targeted attack. 181 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: Targeted attack that could mean a number of things. Who 182 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: was Alicia? Take a listen to our cut a one 183 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: our forensic ki Roo. Alicia is what I want people 184 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: to remember. I mean, she was an amazing sister, an 185 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: amazing friend who people amazing Auntie and twenty four year 186 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: old Alicia can Alis McGuire was a newlywed trying to 187 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: have a baby of her own when she was gunned 188 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: down in her sister's doorway. Alicia was babysitting her sister's 189 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: kids and her kind hearted, selfless sister who died doing 190 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: what she always did a favor, watching the nieces and nephew. 191 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: She adored Prime stories with Nancy Grace. There's something about 192 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: that dichotomy, doctor joy of a young girl, a newlywed 193 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: trying to start her own family just mowed down and 194 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: the prime of her life. That seeming innocence of starting 195 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: fresh and then being gunned down in this way makes 196 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: it even more poignant if you look at it as 197 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: a targeted then you start looking at her background. I 198 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: mean you see like a saint. You know all that 199 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: she was doing at the time in her life, and 200 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: you try to think what could possibly bring about a 201 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: target on this person. Now, according to Ellen Dennis, joining 202 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: Us reported with a Daily Harold in Everett, a neighbor 203 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: had video surveillance footage of a single male running away 204 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: from the murder scene. That is what one neighbor alleged 205 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: when talking to a lawn person official. Yeah, multiple neighbors 206 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: heard gunshots and saw somebody in a white tainktop a male. 207 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: I believe at this scene. You know, though Jess got Morgan. 208 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: We hear Ellen Dennis describing what was seeing what was 209 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: caught on video surveillance. But at that time of the night, 210 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: it's really going to be hard to get a good picture, 211 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: a face recognition picture of the shooter. They're running and 212 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: it's two am, Yeah, it would be, and I agree 213 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: with you, because it's going to be dark they're running away. 214 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: But here's what's kind of curious about this, Nancy, is 215 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: the fact that this individual, whoever they are, if this 216 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: is a suspect, they didn't even take time to put 217 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: dark clothing on or something that's going to obscure their face. 218 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: Because what I'm hearing Ellen say is that they were 219 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: wearing a white tank top. Well, if that's the case, 220 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: then you can assume that the head and the face 221 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: are not covered. So I think this goes to the 222 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: type of perpetrator that we're talking about, somebody that's probably careless, 223 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: maybe unplanned. I don't know if this was something sudden perhaps, 224 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like that this is necessarily a 225 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: professional killer that's involved in the circumstance. Take a listen 226 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: to our cut A three Joanna Small's k R seven. 227 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: Isaiah is only three from keeper and keep barw she 228 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: did die. He shouldn't have to understand death, let alone murder, 229 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: but he does because Aunt Punky Alicia Canalis McGuire was 230 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: shot to death while he and his five and six 231 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: year old sisters were sleeping inside their Average home. It 232 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: was two am and she was shot in the doorway, 233 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: multiple gunshot wounds. Alicia had been watching the kids for 234 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: their mom, her sister, Amanda Canalis, who was away on 235 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: a business trip, and learned of her sister death from 236 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: their father over the phone. Yeah, that was a hard moment. 237 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: Ella Dennis joining me reporter with a daily Harold, did 238 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: you say that one of the neighbors said they heard 239 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: something like a sledge hammer. That is what one neighbor 240 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: told Man firstman ig you interesting, what would that have been, 241 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Jessice Scott Morgan, if there were five gunshot wounds to 242 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: the victim, what would have sounded like a sledgehammer? Well, 243 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the night like this, 244 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: when you have a firearm going off in a neighborhood, 245 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, we have to contextualize this and saying think 246 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: about this is an area where other people live. You know, 247 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: these sounds like this, this report you're talking about perhaps 248 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: something that is breaking the sound barrier. If a weaponist 249 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: discharged and it is going to be loud, and then 250 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: it's a it's a succession of these. If you're pulling 251 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: the trigger multiple times, you're going to have this kind 252 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: of concussive event that's going to go out of sending 253 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: out sound waves, it's going to come off sounding like 254 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: someone hitting on a piece of ten with a sledgehammer. 255 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: More than likely not on a piece of wood that 256 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: would be blunted, but there'll be a sharp crack like that, 257 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and so it's going to get your attention, even if 258 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: you're asleep. Just think if you're living next to order 259 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: these folks and you're jolted out of bed by the sound, 260 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: and not just one, not two, not three, not four, 261 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: but five times. It's going to sound like the end 262 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: of the world. It's coming visiting at your doorstep. You know, 263 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: I was just looking at the timing of this. The 264 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: murder victim, Alicia was married I July two seventeen. She 265 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: was killed in September twenty seventeen. She truly was a 266 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: newly wed to Dante Pride, joining us from the Pride 267 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: Law firm. A newly wed who in the world would 268 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: have a vendetta, I guess to young girl that had 269 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: only been married a couple of months, right, Nancy. I 270 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: mean that's something to think about, and I would think 271 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: from the police's perspective, they have to start thinking about 272 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: jolta decks lovers. Yeah, you have to. And isn't it true, 273 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Dante Pride, You're absolutely correct that investigations typically start close 274 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: to the family. Like you look at the boyfriend, you 275 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: look at the husband, and you look at the neighbor. 276 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: You start moving out. Then you start looking at the 277 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend and the guy that delivers the pizza and 278 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: the grocery store clerk. So that's where you would look first, 279 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: but it's kind of hard for me to believe they've 280 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: only been married about three months and suddenly it's escalated 281 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: to a murder scenario, right, So that's why I would 282 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: think it's someone from the past and by like a 283 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: current husband that because you know they're still on the high, 284 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: they're still louy wed and she's only twenty four how 285 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: much of a pass because she have? That leads me, 286 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: Dante to look at Everette, the county seat and the 287 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: largest city in Snahomash County, Washington. The population is about 288 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand. That's still a relatively small town. And 289 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: I know I came from an area that wasn't even incorporated, 290 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't any city at all, So that really narrows 291 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: your suspect pool, Dante absolutely. And I think the way 292 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: the crime occurred also narrows your suspect pool, right, because 293 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: this isn't a random crime that someone got shot with 294 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: a straight bullet. This is five bullets that were put 295 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: on target on purpose, and so we know that they 296 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: targeted this person and so there has to be some 297 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: connection in some story, and I think that's where the 298 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: police need to look in order to figure out and 299 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: unravel this thing. Straight back to Ellen Dennis joining us 300 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: a reporter with the Daily Herald and Everett where this occurred. 301 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: I heard you mentioned earlier than in some of the 302 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: law enforcement filings it said there was no PC probable 303 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: cause to issue a warrant at this time. Didn't you 304 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: say that, Ellen Dennis? That is correct. So, Dante Pride, 305 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: when you hear police admit they don't have PC probable 306 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: cause to issue a warrant, you know they've hit a 307 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: dead end. Absolutely. I mean, probable cause is the lowest 308 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: level standard that we have in our legal system. It's 309 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: just really a suspicion. Right, Probable cause breaks down to 310 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: basically a suspicion, I think, and then fill in the blank. 311 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: I think we should perform the search because and then 312 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: you give a few facts and you have probable cause, 313 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: and a judge typically will sign it. That's the law 314 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: under the constitution. Yes, no, Dante, absolutely so. Right now 315 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: we have got the cops at a dead end. No answers, 316 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: no leads. They admit themselves there is no PC for 317 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: an arrest or even a search warrant. They got nothing, 318 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: and then out of the blue, a crack in the case. 319 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Take a listen to reporter Natalie Swabi King five News 320 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Patrol perceived a phone call from somebody in the Spokane 321 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: area who said she had been at a social gathering 322 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: and a young woman there claimed that she had been 323 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: hired to kill someone in Snhamas County. The young female 324 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: would have been sixteen at the time of the crime, 325 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: and the difficult thing for detectives as she went by 326 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: different aliases on social media. Now, wait a minute, that 327 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: had a lot of information, Jackie, Could you play that 328 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: again please. Patrol perceived a phone call from somebody in 329 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: the Spokane area who said she had been at a 330 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: social gathering and a young woman there claimed that she 331 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: had been hired to kill someone in Snahomas County. The 332 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: young female would have been sixteen at the time of 333 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: the crime, and the difficult thing for detectives as she 334 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: went by different aliases on social media, different aliases on 335 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: social media bragging that she had been hired to kill 336 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: someone and Snahomash County. To you, Ellen Dennis, where is 337 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: Spokane as it relates to Snahomash County? Well can? I 338 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: would estimate is roughly four hours by car. It is 339 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: located in Eastern Washington. So it is definitely a cartrid. 340 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: So what do you make of this, Jessica Morgane got 341 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: a little girl sixteen years old bragging that she's a 342 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: hit person at a party. When you said not professional, 343 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: you were right about that. But a sixteen year old 344 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: girl a hit man. Plus according to the witness, it 345 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: was a man that ran away. Yeah. Yeah, And you 346 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: think about this, and cons can't even keep their mouth 347 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: shut in prison many times they snitch each other out. 348 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: Now you've got an individual who is at this age 349 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: they've got you talk about. You think about cons and 350 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: the networking prison. You're thinking about a sixteen year old 351 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: who has access to social media and she's going out 352 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: and blastemous information at parties. Of course it's going to 353 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: get out. My question is what would be your motivation 354 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: for throwing this out there? Is it to improve your 355 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: social status? Is it to make people fear with her? 356 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: She's a hired hit girl? Okay, Doctor Jordy Crossing. Why 357 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: can't people keep their yapp shut? And why would you 358 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: brag about something like that if it were true? Well, 359 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: you got to look at the social media. All of 360 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: this is anonymity, okay, And you can look at the personality, 361 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: how it develops in morphs within that anonymity they're hiding. 362 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: So you know, even hearing that, they're going to be 363 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: questions as well, is this valid? You know? How reliable 364 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: is this? Is this just something you think about it? 365 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Jory. A teen girl barely sixteen, four hours away 366 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: in Spokane bragging at a party, probably after she had 367 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: a couple of drinks or a big fat dubie that 368 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: she's a hit girl. It doesn't it doesn't really fit 369 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: with reality. You think about a sixteen year old doing this, 370 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: But I mean it's still a lead that you know, 371 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: it's got to be followed, it's got to be run out. 372 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: Just think about it. A sixteen year old girl bragging, 373 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: probably drunkenly at a party that four hours away. She 374 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: was responsible for a hit on an innocent newly wed, 375 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: a young bride sixteen years old, but they can't find 376 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: her because she has so many aliases on social media. 377 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: Jessica Morgan explain what that means. Well, you know, you 378 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: have individuals and there and they bury themselves. I can't 379 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: tell you how many times I get friend requests and 380 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: all kinds of people that are from all over the world. 381 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: You can tell it, and you don't know who they are, 382 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: so they're kind of hiding behind this digital curtain. But 383 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: this is the key. If this sixteen year old girl 384 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: turns out to be a person of interest in this case, 385 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: remember my reference to cons earlier in prison, they have 386 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: a certain level of sophistication. If they can track down 387 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: who she is, they can apply a certain amount of 388 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: pressure to her. And trust me, Nancy, she's going to 389 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: roll over. When they start talking about things like a 390 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: life imprisonment that you brought about the death of somebody, 391 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: she's going to give something up. Remember we're not looking 392 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: for a sixteen year old girl in this case, per 393 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: the description earlier. We're talking about possibly an adult male 394 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: that's running away from the house. That's going to be significant. 395 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: If you pull the thread on that, she's going to 396 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: come apart. And of course, Dante Pride, you can't threaten 397 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: or if you ever do find her, she's like a 398 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: needle in a haystack with a death penalty, because the 399 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: US Supreme Court affirmed recently that anyone under eighteen cannot 400 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: get the death penalty in the United States, no matter 401 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: how many people they killed, including like school shooters, nor 402 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: can they get elwa life without parole. So that's not 403 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: anything you could ever hang over her head if you 404 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: found her right, that's true, and I think it's it's 405 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: the right decision by the legislature. I mean, children make 406 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: a lot of poor decisions, and we know in this instance, 407 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: this young lady made a poor decision. But we know 408 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: because of her age, she was likely influenced by someone 409 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: who was older. I mean, that's just how it goes. Well, 410 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know if mass shootings in 411 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: schools are a quote poor decision, but that said, it 412 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: is the law of the land. Now. Well, it took 413 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: months and months to unravel. She went by different aliases 414 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: on social media that took months to unravel. But once 415 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: they were able to identify who she was, they discovered 416 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: that she was the ex girlfriend of Kevin's cousin. The 417 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend of Kevin's cousin. Hold on, let me digest 418 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: what I'm just hearing. The ex sixteen year old girl 419 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: is the ex girlfriend of Kevin's cousin. And Ellen Dennis 420 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: joining us in the Daily Harold and Everett, who is Kevin? 421 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Lewis is a man who resided in Sahomish County 422 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: at the time of the shooting. He was formerly the 423 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: partner of the victim sister. Kevin Lewis, thirty four year old, 424 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: is the ex husband of the murder victims sister. Okay, 425 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: let that so ken, the sixteen year old girl probably 426 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: drunk at a party bragging that she's a hit man 427 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: four hours away is the ex girlfriend Wait, I need 428 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: a family's tree here the ex girlfriend of the cousin 429 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: of the murder victims sisters husband. Okay, whoa is anybody 430 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: beside me getting clarity? Take a listen to our cut 431 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: four Komo. The accused seventeen year old girl in this 432 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: case told a couple of friends in Spokane that she 433 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: had killed someone here in Snohomish County. It turns out 434 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: those girls contacted investigators here and that ultimately led to 435 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: these arrests. Alicia Cannellis McGuire was a caregiver of a 436 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: loved sister and aunt and a newly wed. She was 437 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: the girl who said I love you every time she 438 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: said goodbye, but nobody expected her life to be cut 439 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: short at just twenty four years old. It's hard enough 440 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: losing someone you know we were so close to but 441 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: not having justice for it. But justice could come after 442 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: all a year and a half after her murder. Alicia 443 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: was Amanda Lewis's sister and now listen to our cut 444 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: five Komo. Three people have been arrested in the suspected 445 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: murder for hire. Prosecutors say twenty year old Jared and Phelps, 446 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: a cousin of Kevin's, and a seventeen year old girl 447 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: from Spokane had been hired by the thirty one year 448 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: old to kill his wife, but that night, Amanda's sister, Alicia, 449 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: who was babysitting her kids, answered the door and took 450 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: the fatal bullet. I was just a really horrible time. 451 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Amanda and Kevin had been married for eight years and 452 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: have three children. Kevin is currently serving three years in 453 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: prison for assaulting his ex wife. Court records say the 454 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: seventeen year old girl claims she and Pumps were promised 455 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars for the killing. Court documents say cell 456 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: phone records and social media posts revealed trails of evidence 457 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: that led to all three arrests, and all three are 458 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: facing different levels of first degree murder. Kevin Lewis will 459 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: be back in court. Tomorrow so his bond can be set. 460 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: Phelps bond has been set at five million dollars. Let 461 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: me understand something. The father of three, Kevin Lewis, age 462 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: thirty four, pays two teenagers to go kill his ex wife. 463 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: They go to the door and they shoot the woman 464 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: that comes to the door in pj's in a case 465 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: of murderous mistaken identity. They gunned down her little sister 466 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: who was babysitting that night. Is that what is being alleged, 467 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: Ellen Dennis? That is correct. Levin Lewis, the ex husband, 468 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: had made threats to his former wife the target, and 469 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: he was actually in sharving a sentence in prison at 470 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: the time for assaulting her. Take a listen to our 471 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: cut seven. This is Natalie Swaby Kingthonnews. With search warrants, 472 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: investigators obtained phone records. Both of the suspects phones were 473 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: in the same location at the same time, traveling across 474 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: the state to western Washington. They actually met up with 475 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Kevin and he took them to the house where they 476 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: were supposed to commit the crime. Detectives say social media 477 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: also provided a trail of evidence, including a picture from 478 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: the male suspect allegedly posted a snapchat that showed hundred 479 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: dollar bills fanned out a few hours after the murder. 480 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: Sixteen year old young woman. The eighteen year old Mail 481 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: had been paid by Kevin, had been hired to come 482 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: out from Spokane to Sahamash County to essentially murder Kevin's 483 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: ex wife, and then they drove back. The murder for 484 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: higher case is the reason three suspects are now encusted, 485 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: at least to give them some answers as to what 486 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: happened exactly and frankly, some justice. These suspects, Jared and Phelps, 487 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: age eighteen, the alleged shooter, and that is Kevin Lewis, 488 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: the husband's cousin. Jared and Phelps, age eighteen. Then you've 489 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: got Alexis Hall, sixteen years old. That's Phelps's girlfriend, the 490 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: one apparently bragging at the party that she was a 491 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: hit person. So Dante Pride joining me, high profile lawyer 492 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: out of San Diego. You can find him at the 493 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Pride Law Firm. Dante Pride. I just love it when 494 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: I can get pings and I can actually track two 495 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: suspects phones together in the same car traveling the four 496 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: hours from Spokane to Snahomash County, right to the doorstep 497 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: of the dead victim. And then to top it all off, 498 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: they shoot the wrong person. I mean, why else would 499 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: they travel all the way from Spokane to Snahomash County together, 500 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: They don't know anybody there, and she's bragging about it 501 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: at a party. You know, the old World War two 502 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: slogan started in brit with the Brits loose lips sink ships. 503 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: True awards were never spoken, Dante Pride, True awards were 504 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: never spoken, And from attorney's perspective, was very difficult when 505 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: you're climbed to the one who spoke the words, and 506 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: then they have evidence showing that you go four hours 507 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: outside of your normal area the one night when the 508 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: murder occurs, and then never do that again. So uphill 509 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: battle for any attorney miss case for these people. Jessica Morgan, 510 00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: please outline what we know about the electronic trade all 511 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: these two left behind themselves. Yeah, you know, reflectively, it's 512 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: it is almost like a fairy tale where someone's leaving 513 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: breadcrumbs and that's the beauty of the world that we 514 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: live in now. From a from a forensic standpoint, so 515 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: every when, not only do they have one cell phone, Nancy, 516 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: they've got two. They're traveling in tandem. And you're going 517 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: to a location that, as was spoken of just a 518 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: moment ago, that is not familiar to you, or it's 519 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: not your common, common locale that you're going to inhabit, 520 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, when you're moving around with your cell phone, 521 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: say in home, like these individuals back and Spokane. It's 522 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: in the eastern part of the state. You can get 523 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: hits all over there, and it's gonna if you look 524 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: at it on a dot graph, it's gonna be highly concentrated. 525 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, you've got this, You've got 526 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: this thin line that's kind of in tandem, where these 527 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: two dots going down the road. And as a reporter 528 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, this is a four hour drive, Nancy, And 529 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: so these little dots are a company. Every time they're 530 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: hitting a cell tower, every time it's bouncing off, they're 531 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: given an occasion this trail. And to our attorney's point, 532 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: this is a nightmare. This is a nightmare to try 533 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: to defeat this in court. And then when they show up, 534 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: they're going to show up at the precise location. These 535 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: two people are in the car together, not to mention 536 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: the ex husband who are in proximity. How can you 537 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: explain that away? Yeah, they meet up with the ex 538 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: husband for what one thirty am chat. Yeah, this is 539 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: what happens when you hire teenagers to commit a murder 540 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: and as not the first time. Take a listen to 541 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: crime Stories with Nancy Grace. This is what happens when 542 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: you hire teenagers to commit a murder and as not 543 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: the first time. Take a listen to our cut twenty. 544 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: This is Tammy Matuza Komo. When another pars attained to 545 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: commit murder, well, you know what happens. Everything goes wrong. 546 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Court documents paint a deliberate and disturbing murder for higher scheme. 547 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: Bellevue police say Sharon Kelly hired a seventeen year old 548 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: boy to murder her ex husband, Baron Lee, and offered 549 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: to pay the teenager thirteen thousand dollars something like this 550 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: is rare, It is rare. On the day of the 551 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: shooting in July, police say, the seventeen year old got 552 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: his friend to drive him to the overlook at Lakemont 553 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: Apartments in Bellevue, where court documents say he was going 554 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: to cap someone and empty the clip. Police say the 555 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: seventeen year old gunman ambushed Lee, shooting him nine times. 556 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: The victim fell to the ground, the suspects stood over 557 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: him and continued to fire. According to court documents, Lee 558 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: said he couldn't think of anyone who would want to 559 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: kill him besides his ex wife, saying they were in 560 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: the midst of a very acrimonious custom battle that also 561 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: included a financial motive for Kelly to sole custody of 562 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: their child. We know that children were involved in the 563 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: current case, and in that case, you got the teen 564 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: boys standing over the victim shooting him as he is prone, 565 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: and the victim still lives and can identify the teen 566 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: hit man. So I don't get it, doctor Jory. Why 567 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: would you hire a teen, much less two teams to 568 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 1: commit a murder? Well, they could be several reasons. One 569 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: that they can get away with it basically with a 570 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: light sentence that are going to face a death penalty, 571 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: but they're going to implicate you. You think you can't 572 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: crack a sixteen year old girl for Pete's sake. Yeah, 573 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: but a lot of times they don't think that far 574 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: down the road, Okay, The anger, the aggression, the hatred, 575 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: the rage really puts a tunnel vision on their cognitive process. 576 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: They want to eliminate this person. This seems to be 577 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: an easy way out, a quick way, maybe even an 578 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: inexpensive I mean twenty four hundred dollars. I mean you 579 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: can't even get decent home repair at that cost to you. 580 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Dante Pride, high profile lawyer out of San Diego at 581 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: the Probably Law firm here is the kicker. And I 582 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: think doctor Jordy mentioned it. We see a lot in 583 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: dope cases where the doper will hand the cry, the 584 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: myth or whatever to a juvenile and then stand or 585 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: place himself obscured, maybe in a car, around a bush 586 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: or corner, and watch the team sell dope. Because the 587 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: team will only get six weeks in GeV jail. An 588 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: adult could go down for life if he's a third 589 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: time offender. So a lot of times you see criminals 590 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: specifically picking teams to do the deed, but in this case, 591 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: the teams will definitely rat out the Every time I 592 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: mean crimes, when there are more than one individual who 593 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: perpetrated the crime, they tell on each other. So these 594 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: criminals don't have the forethought. As one of our other 595 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: talents that has said they're not thinking at all, and 596 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: it's clear. And if this is correct, doctor Jory, he 597 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: agreed to have his wife gunned down at the doorway 598 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: with his three children asleep in the next room. What 599 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: does that tell you, doctor Jory? Very cold blood. There's 600 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: a lot of hatred, a lot of anger. He hasn't 601 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: been getting his way. This seemed like his only recourse 602 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: out of it, not thinking down the road of what 603 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: it would do to the children finding the mother there 604 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: as if the cell phone trail wasn't enough. Take a 605 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: listen to our cut seven. This is Jackie Howard a 606 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: crime online. The two hired to kill Amanda Canala were 607 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: teenagers at the time, eighteen year old Jaredin Phelps and 608 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: his then girlfriend, sixteen year old Alexis Hale. The pair 609 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: drove to the Canalis home around two am and knocked 610 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: on the door. Amanda Canalis was in New York on 611 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: business and her sister was babysitting Canalis's three children. When 612 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: Alicia Canalis McGuire opened the front door, she was shot 613 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: five times. The pair was reportedly paid twenty four hundred 614 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: dollars for the hit. That payment showed up in photos 615 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: on Jaredin Phelps social media, as both teenagers bragged about 616 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: what they had done. He captioned the photos with effing 617 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: never guess what I did for this check. Alexis Hale, 618 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: on the other hand, told several acquaintances that she had 619 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: been hired to kill someone. Phelps reportedly used the money 620 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: to buy Timberland boots, of Ferragamo belt buckle, and several tattoos. 621 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: The mastermind behind the hit Amanda Canalis's ex husband. He 622 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: hired his cousin Phelps to get his ex wife out 623 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: of the way. What a bunch oft they post online? 624 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: Guess what I did to get this f and paycheck 625 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: and post one hundred dollars bills? Really well, I wanted 626 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: to take a listen to this. This is what it 627 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: all boils down to. Our cut A two K Lewis 628 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: is already serving prison time for attacking Amanda after she 629 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: ended their marriage. Initially, I wasn't going to do any 630 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: interviews at this point, but then a couple of people 631 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: actually reached out to me about how my experiences have 632 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: impacted them, and so I thought it was important to share. 633 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: Amanda says her rex husband wasn't initially physically abusive, but 634 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: she says he was controlling and emotionally abusive. So I 635 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: think it's important for people to be aware and recognize 636 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: red flags. And if I had maybe recognized that earlier on, 637 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: my sister might still be here. When Amanda says Lewis 638 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: was physically abusive, attacking her outside her Lynwood home, and 639 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: I should have moved at that point because it was 640 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: the same house where he had someone show up to 641 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: murder me and ended up killing my sister. In the end, 642 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: it takes a jury about three and a half hours 643 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: to convict Kevin Lewis first degree murder. How does the 644 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: story end? Take a Listen to our friend Dave mack 645 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: a crime online. It took a jury less than three 646 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: and a half hours to convict Kevin Lewis of aggravated 647 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: first degree murder and a murder for hire that left 648 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: the target sister dead. The jury of seven women and 649 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: five men spent nearly six weeks in Snohomas County Superior 650 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: Court absorbing testimony about the killing of twenty four year 651 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: old Alicia Canalis McGuire. Jared On Phelps pleaded guilty and 652 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: testified against Lewis at trial, claiming he only knew the 653 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: address he was supposed to target, not the name of 654 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: the woman he was supposed to kill. Phelps and his 655 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: friend Alex Hale drove from Spokane to Snahomas County, where 656 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: Lewis directed them to the home of his ex wife. 657 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: Hale pleaded guilty to her heart and was sentenced to 658 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years. Phelps got thirty one and a half years, 659 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: and Lewis sentenced to life without parole. Is it the 660 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: end of the story? I say no, because the children 661 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: in the home that night, well forever, how this ingrained 662 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: in their minds. Nancy Grace Crimes Stories, signing off goodbye friend,