WEBVTT - Conversations with a Navy Seal 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.680 This is Conversationous with Olivia Jade in My Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.280 Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of Conversations. I 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.120 am so excited today we have an amazing former Navy 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.320 seal coming on the podcast, and this feels very unexpected 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.880 for me as a guest. I did not think I 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.200 would ever be able to have the opportunity to talk 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.720 to somebody who's been through so much and I want 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:28.560 to share his stories with you guys. I want to 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:35.720 learn about him. So please let's welcome Mark Divine. Hello, Mark, 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.559 Hello Olivia, nice to meet you. I'm Olivia. Thank you 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.640 so much for coming on the podcast. My pleasure. I 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.960 was just saying while I was doing like a little 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.320 intro that I don't think I've ever talked to a 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.199 former Navy seal before, so I'm very excited about this. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.920 And for those that don't know you, I feel like 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.639 my audience might not be aware of who you are. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.600 So maybe you could give like a little background and 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.440 how you got into, you know, being in this position 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.240 that you've been in these past years and um, yeah, 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.280 and then we can just really dive into it. It 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.760 sounds great. I'll try to keep it short because I'm 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:17.080 a little older than you. I don't know. Yeah, so, um, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.400 being a seal is actually my second career, my first career. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.160 And then this relates to actually the topic or the 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.120 subject of your podcast Second Chances. You know, I followed 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.640 all my all the right things, you know, the right 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.160 things my parents wanted me to do, the culture, you know, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.880 went to great college called Colgate. After Colgate University, I 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.640 went down in New York to UM to work and 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.520 also to go to school and m b A at 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.440 n y U. So within two, you know, two and 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.160 a half years, I had an m b A and 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.160 a c p A. And I was working on Wall 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.440 Street and I was off to the races. Right, Pretty cool, right, 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.800 except I was miserable. I literally hated my job. I 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:01.919 hated myself for not be passionate I guess about life, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.200 and I was miserable, you know, as I was looking 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.280 at life like everything started to get gray. And remember 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:08.919 telling my dad I was at a wedding and he 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.440 was like, what's wrong with you? And I said, no, 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.200 I'm just not happy. And at least I had this 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:17.320 self awareness to say that. What saved me Olivia was UM. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:21.680 I found meditation at twenty one years old. All right, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.079 this is I found meditation through a zen master who 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.720 was my martial arts instructor, and I spent a lot 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.880 of time. I loved it because it gave me a 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.120 reprieve from, you know, kind of the self imposed suffering 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.680 I was experienced trying to be something that I wasn't 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.440 as a white collar professional, as I wasn't interested really 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.760 or passionate about money. I really wanted to do something 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.360 interesting and important, but I just didn't know what and 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:46.799 I thought that was what I was supposed to do 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.320 because that was the story I was living. But meditation 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.400 changed my brain, changed the way I thought, gave me 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.800 new insights, new perspectives, and literally showed me kind of 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.480 like my soul's calling, which was to be a warrior. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.320 And as soon as I accepted that, Olivia, I actually 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:08.680 literally had a synchrono synchronicity experience where I I learned 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.240 about the Navy Seals just by walking past the Navy 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.239 recruiter's office and there was a big poster on the 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.120 window that said be someone special and it had you know, 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.079 cool guys happening, you know what I mean. Not sure 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.520 you'd be interested, but a lot of your male listeners 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.200 will be like, yeah, I know what, cool guys. And 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.040 I was just smitten by this idea and it and 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.160 so right there, right this notion that I was going 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:33.720 to be a warrior. I meant to be a warrior. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.760 This disconnect with what I was actually doing and then 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.320 suddenly seeing what's possible, and I had this major kind 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.000 of paradigm shift. It took a little while for me 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.560 to grow the cohones to actually go for it, but 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.080 that's a whole another story. So I joined the Seals 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:55.240 at went through UM class one seven zero was onnor Man. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.120 Remember one graduate. With my class, we had five hardcore 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.640 warriors and only UM nineteen of us graduated and I 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.440 was number one graduate. And then I had an amazing 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.760 twenty year career as a Seal ten active duty, ten reserve. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.400 But a lot of my combat experience came as a reservist, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.960 and that led me to UM kind of where I am. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:21.279 I'm you know, huge experience UM formative there, you know, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.960 traveling the fifty or sixty different countries and wow. But anyways, 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.760 I could go into more detail, but I don't want 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.040 to bore you. No, this isn't boring. That's why you're 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.800 on the podcast. We want to know. But can I 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.120 actually ask you something about meditation because this is a 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.920 little bit of like a personal question, But I really 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.400 wanted to get into meditating for a long time and 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.520 firm like maybe from like a like a beginner's standpoint, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.440 what is like what's the first step? And then do 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.560 you think if you hadn't had done meditation and found 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.560 that you would not have probably gotten into the I 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:58.279 wouldn't have even considered it, and I certainly wouldn't have 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.200 done as well l as I did meditation. I think 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.960 is the master skill. Uh, And it's it's the number 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.719 one skill that we need to our tool that we 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.560 need to use to develop our minds to deal with 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.680 the you know, the exponential age which we're in. As 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.960 you're aware like your your generation will be the leaders 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.000 um and in the way your minds have been trained 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.920 is is not it's not going to be able to 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.960 cope with what's coming because this it was traged the 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.680 same way the train, the same way my mind was 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.480 to be trained. Until I found meditation. We cannot face 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.039 and we cannot handle the explosive change that's happening with 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:41.440 just you know, school knowledge right with information, we're out 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.479 of the information age, We're in the conceptual age. So 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.360 what we need is basically massive creativity and spontaneity and 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.359 intuitiveness and and the ability to conceive of new things. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.760 That that is found through meditation and creative endeavors, you know, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.760 like what you're doing here. And so you know, I'm 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.000 not a big fan of traditional education anymore. I know 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.919 it's great to have the credentials that I have, but 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.200 I haven't touched my m b A and I haven't 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.960 touched my b A. I don't use anything that I learned. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.159 But you know, I don't regret doing that training. I 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.039 just I just don't think it's it's um relevant for 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.320 the age that we're in, and there's new ways of learning. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.520 So back to your question, Meditation for me its the 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.600 science of mental development beyond just downloading knowledge. Like to 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:30.080 teach you in school, meditation is not just calming your 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.400 body or just about the health benefits. It is about 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.800 training your mind to expand your ability to perceive more, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.719 to to understand why you exist and why you do 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.279 what you do, and to and to make better decisions. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:48.240 And then also to teach you how to UM control 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.560 your attention and maintain radical concentration so you can you know, 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.000 accomplish a worthy mission or worthy goal. How do you 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.680 start that? Like, what's the Because for me, when I 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.279 think of meditation, I think of like sitting in silence 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.400 and like not letting my brain wander and trying to 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.920 focus on I guess nothing. Essentially, I feel like that's 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.960 like that maybe like a misconception that is, that's not wrong. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.080 But UM, there are there are several skills that are 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.000 trained with meditation. This is one of the reasons why 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.200 people struggled with It's not really explained or taught very well. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.280 The skill that you just described trains concentration, and it's 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.920 UM it's important UM to learn concentration so that you 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.440 can control that attention. So that's a skill. It's also 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:39.360 important to develop mindful awareness of what patterns and um 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:44.520 background you know, that have that have conditioned your current 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.360 life or the story that you're living, so that you 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:51.040 can rewrite the script of your life. And assuming it's 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.640 not written properly, because I don't want to make that assumption, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.240 but for many people the script that they're living out 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.160 is conditioned by their family and by their culture and religion, 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.600 and it's not going to serve of them very well ultimately. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:07.239 And so mindfulness training helps us become aware of the 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.760 background of why we do what we do with the context. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.240 So that's important. And you see, my business is called 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:16.200 unbautiful mind so we we teach these things. Yeah. Yeah. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:21.080 So anyways, most people really flail and have trouble when 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:25.960 they start meditation, especially younger individuals like yourself, because there 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.840 really is a progression. Just like you know, are you 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.000 an athlete? I know most of the people listen to 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.439 have some athletic skills. Imagine you do as well, right, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.560 I actually am. Yeah, I'm pretty athletic. I one Athlete 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.280 of the Year when I was twelve. That's the only 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.840 flex I have. Yeah. So, so what's your sport? I 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.280 used to play basketball and soccer and volleyball when I 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.760 was younger. Okay, well let's choose soccer. Right. So when 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.240 you started soccer, when you first saw a soccer ball 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.280 or someone you know toss it to you, your parents 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.280 bought it for you. You didn't just go out and 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.200 suddenly play like pelee, right or some master. You know, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.920 you literally had to learn how to dribble that ball. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.560 You have to learn the rules of the game. You 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.160 have to learn how to kick, you have to learn 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.600 how to run with the ball. There's all sorts of 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.440 skills that you had to work with and and you 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.160 learn those skills in what we would call a crawl 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.319 walk run manner. That's how we would say it in 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.440 the Seals. You you work like first you it's baby steps. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.440 What are the real fundamental basics? Well, meditation is very similar, right, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.200 and so jumping into mindfulness meditation is like going from 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.760 zero to hero. And so there's fundamental things that you 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.440 need to do to your brain and your mind and 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.360 your body to be able to even have the capacity 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.600 to sit and meditate. So what I teach is basically 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:46.360 a breathing technique that de stresses the body and calms 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.959 the mind. I call box breathing, and that is like 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.320 someone just handing you the soccer ball and teaching how 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.920 to dribble it. It's it's really basic training, but it's 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.280 even hard for h Yeah, and I've been teaching that 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.320 since two thousand seven. I think I was the first 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.240 person to actually call it box breath and teach it. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.360 And so it's like that's how you start. And if 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.200 I were to, you know, if you were my client, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.160 I would say, okay, Olivia, we're gonna just sit down 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.719 and we'renna close our eyes and we're an inhale for 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.439 five seconds, and we'll hold our breath for five seconds, 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.160 and then when exhale for five seconds, and then when 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.240 to hold our breath on the exhale for five seconds, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.480 and initially for the first you know, three months, we're 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.760 not going to really worry about what our brain is 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.920 doing or what our mind is doing. We're just holding 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.640 our attention on keeping that pattern going, and we're gonna 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.559 do it for a minimum five minutes up to twenty 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.400 minutes a day. Ideally it's twenty minutes a day. This 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.680 is one of the reasons this practice alone was probably 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.680 why it was so successful in silk trending, because I 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.000 was always calm and and my and the instructors are 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.959 like masters at causing chaos and fear, and I was 0:10:51.000 --> 0:11:09.160 always really calm because I had trained this practice. Were 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.480 you ever in a like a real life situation where 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.240 you had to like, like, let's say you're in the seal, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.160 something insane is happening. Do you could you have time 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.560 to take a moment and like start doing this. It 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:24.520 is the master skill for everything, so once you train it, 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.200 Like one example is I was in UM. I was 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:31.480 jumping out of an airplane, UM with a yeah and UM. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.000 And it was at night. This is a static line jump, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.880 not a free fall jump, so I didn't have as 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.040 much you know, control over the canopy. Like it's not 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.960 very nimble the static line, and so I UM. But 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.880 it was second off the deck or off the ramp 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.040 of the helicopter. And it was a beautiful night, so 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.520 I was actually taking in the sceniories, like the moon 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.000 was out. It was just stunning. It was in the 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:57.160 desert of California, was training, and suddenly I saw the 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.560 first jumper coming right towards me. Now he should have 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.440 been way away from me, but he somehow did a 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.920 full three sixty and was coming right toward me. And 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.320 our procedures are you know, if someone's gonna come at 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.920 you and you're gonna have a mid our cllision, then 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.520 each of you pull your right toggle, which is like 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.960 steering to the right. Well I pulled my right and 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.120 he pulled his left, and he collided with me. And 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.680 so we were only about nine feet high at that 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.000 point in time. So he collides in my parachute just disappears. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.080 It folds up into a ball, right, and I start 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.920 plumbing to the earth right picking up speed, and I 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.120 have about eight seconds to live. And immediately I started 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.160 box breathing, like immediately, because I had trained it, I 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.160 didn't go into fear. I didn't freak out. It just 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.120 started inhale hold exhale hold, and I did like one 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.960 cycle and my calmp my head went calm, and I 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.920 all my um safety precautions you know, flooded back to 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.800 me that we had trained, you know. And so I 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.760 looked up and I grabbed my rises and I started 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.120 shaking it and nothing happened. And I knew I didn't 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.319 have time to do that again. So I punched my 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.720 reserve or pulled the ripcord and punchment reserve, threw it 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.319 out shook, that didn't catch any on. Boxed breathing, still calm. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.400 I'm down to like two d three feet. I look 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.720 back up, I grabbed my risers and I'm just breathing, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.920 and I had this sensation that you know, this isn't 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:18.160 my time, Like this was so calm, yeah, and so 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.360 um clear, and I felt like I had all the 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.200 time in the world. It's one of the things that 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.760 meditation and breathing does is it gets you really present 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.240 and present moment. You feel like you have all this time. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:31.839 So I shook the risers again and all of a 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.120 sudden poof, you know, like fifty ft above the ground, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.120 they caught air and I landed and I landed like 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.880 a ton of potatoes, you know, sacotatoes, and the miracle, 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:46.679 I didn't break any bonds. But that's an exact so 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:50.880 many examples like that that, um, you know, it got 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.720 me really fascinated with kind of this idea of, you 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.080 know what, what's possible with the mind? You know, can 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.480 you slow time down really like like you see movies 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.360 with the ninja advanced martial arts, or can you speed 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.240 it up? And I believe that you can. I believe 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.280 that the human being has just this vast potential and 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.360 when you train your mind. But if you don't train 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.800 your mind, then you just end up being kind of 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.640 common and a victim or buffeted by you know, everybody 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.320 else's needs for you. So that's really important to train yourself. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.440 If you're not training yourself in the world's training you on. Yeah, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.120 it's so interesting too because I'm such a big believer 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.200 and everything you're talking about, Like I think, the like 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.960 the power we hold and the control we have over 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.800 our own selves is like insane to me. I was 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.800 reading this book called a New Earth. I don't know 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:44.120 if you've read it, Yeah, but it kind of reminds 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.680 me a lot of what you're saying, and I think 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.520 it is just like I think a lot of people 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.000 go to a different place where they're like I have 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.240 to like freak out about this or they I feel 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.360 like we don't take the time as humans to realize 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.640 that we do have control over situations. So just like 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.280 hearing you speak about this is like inspiring for me. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.920 Who I'm not jumping out of airplanes or putting my 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.640 life in risk every day, but still there's something to 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.720 be taken away from it. When you were in the Seals, 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.320 what did you learn like the most about teamwork? And 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.560 is it it's one of those things you know when 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.720 you're in that probably you can't do it alone. I 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.720 would assume they call it the Seal teams for a reason, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:25.200 not the Seal individuals. Um nothing great is accomplished alone. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.520 In my opinion, you need a team. You know, even 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.520 your podcast, you've got a team running. Can you imagine 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.680 being everything on your own. I've got a podcast, It's crazy. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:38.600 I've got like eight people in work and the Seals um. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.720 First off, I learned that it's it's a little bit counterintuitive, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:47.320 but you have to place as much emphasis and care 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.520 as much about your teammates as you care about yourself. 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.320 And you know, as you place emphasis on yourself. That's 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:59.280 not common for a lot of people. Most people put all, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.440 you know, all their attention on theirselves because they're in 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.560 that egoic stage of development. And then they show up 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.720 for the team and put out a little bit or 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.920 some but they don't put it out for the teammate. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.880 They put it out so that they don't screw up orusly, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.520 they look you know, they look good, or they don't 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.680 let their teammate down. With the Seals, we learned that literally, 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.840 our teammates are radically important to us and we can't 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.680 accomplish the mission without them, and we will. Literally we 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:32.040 have such an incredible deep respect and trust and love 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:33.920 for them that we're willing to die for them. I 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:38.840 mean that's the incredible level of teaming. Most people only 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.920 experience that, like if you're a mother and a child 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:59.360 or a father and a child. You know, just to 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.280 wrap up, what's like one? I know that obviously meditation 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.800 we've talked about for a second is very important too, 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.000 But what's one life skill you think you could give 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.040 to somebody or in your program that you've created, UM, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.960 which what's it called Unbeatable Mind? Is there? Well, your company, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.639 beautiful Unbeautable Mind is our training. We've got to this 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:21.200 new UM, a new program coming out in March called 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.639 Unbuild Mind for the Exponential Age? Is this all online? Like? 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.280 Could could any human sign up online? Anybody can do this? UM? 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.280 You don't have to come to a live event for that. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.280 We we love our live events because that's where we 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.840 really go deep and do the immersive and bodied work. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.600 But this program, because especially since Covid, I realized the 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.280 only way we're going to reach more people is to 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.359 do virtual training, and so we shifted. UM we're in 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.879 a virtual company just like most companies now. And so 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.840 this program is eight weeks long and in it I 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.479 teach how to develop what I call the five minds 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.800 of unbeatable mind, the body mind, the contextual mind, the 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.399 strategic mind, the extended mind, and the integrated mind. And 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.920 each one of these minds that we all have when 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.080 they're together, it's just your whole mind. But each one 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.440 of these has a unique way to train at unique 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:16.480 tools to train. Right. Um, probably the most profound is 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.919 what we've already talked about, box breathing. Right, So if 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.399 everyone just started there, but you turned box breathing into 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:27.320 a stacked practice. Stacked practices when you combine different elements 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.359 of training into a singular training session. So if you 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.520 did twenty minutes of box breathing. The way that I 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.520 do it and I teach it to my advanced students 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.879 is to start out just like I told you. Just 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.040 start out just breathing, just following that pattern, and that 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.520 calms your body and your brain down. It literally really 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.080 slows down the brain waves into an alpha low bay 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.280 to hi alpha state, which is conducive for for learning 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.560 and and opening up to whole mine your heart and 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.879 your biome. And then we um then we lock onto 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.040 the box and we visual eyes the box, or we 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.159 we insite a mantra, right, And so that then takes 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:09.400 the training the breathwork into a concentration practice which deepens 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:13.760 our ability to control our attention seals called the attention control. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.000 And so then we learn how to really focus. We 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.200 learned how to declutter, We learned how to clear our mind, 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.160 which is where you started and said that's hard. Yeah, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.200 it is hard, but you start with just calming the body. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.120 And then we start by focusing radically on just one 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.560 thing without worrying about when your mind wanders off, you 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.520 just bring it back when you recognize that. So that deepens, 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.359 lengthens your ability to concentrate in terms of duration, and 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.800 it gives you makes you less distractable, so you can 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.000 hold your attention. And so that I would do that 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.399 for the second five minutes. Then the third five minutes, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.679 I do the mindful awareness where I just release the 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.440 gas pedal on the concentration, which means I'm not efforting 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.520 as much, relaxing my effort. But I create a meta 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.160 cognitive shift where I put my awareness in one side 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.680 of my brain and my right hemisphere, and I pretend 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.920 this is a little bit pretend, but you imagine that 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.959 you're watching the thinker. So the left hemisphere of your 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.840 brain is more the the strategic thinking mind with the 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.080 right hemisphere is your contextual mind. And so you create 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.720 this meta cognitive shift where you just start to watch 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.600 passively the thoughts that arise in your mind. And this 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.280 begins to give you the sense of I am not 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.240 my thoughts, and yet I can observe my thoughts and 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.600 emotions as they arise and fall, and so you you 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:34.199 you gain great um separation from the whipp saws of 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.200 your thoughts and the dramas. And it also creates that 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:41.959 space so you can become non reactionary and instead pause 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.159 and the seals we use the acronym p B T A. 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:49.680 You pause, you breathe. That would be then you think, 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.240 and thinking is like analyzing the quality of the thoughts 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.359 and what's happening, and then you act as opposed to 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.680 just acting. So that's the third scale and then the 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.919 four skill. It's it's in two parts. One is to 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:08.360 stop efforting whatsoever and to turn inward, meaning when I'm 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.119 watching my thoughts, I'm literally still forward focused looking for thoughts. 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.600 Turning inward means you literally turn your awareness around and 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:20.040 you look for awareness itself, and over time you find 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.560 that aspect of yourself that is just aware of being alive, 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.480 beyond thoughts and emotion, even beyond space and time and 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.040 um that practice right there is what I just described 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:40.280 is like um holy grail for developing the whole mind thinking. 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:44.080 And whole mind thinking, I think is essentially where we 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.960 need to go as humanity because it connects the heart 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.840 and the gut with the head, and we are allowed 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.440 allows ourselves to use all of that thinking passive, even 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.520 our our body and the energetic field around our body 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:02.359