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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? John middlecop Three and Out podcast

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Speaker 1: coming to you live live from Miami. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: radio Row. I'm gonna rename it podcast Row because that's

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Speaker 1: what we're doing, podcasting. I see gott leaves, got leaves gone. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm here burning the midnight oil. You know it's six thirty.

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Speaker 1: No big deal, serious XM. We got CBS, we we

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Speaker 1: got all the movers and shakers and three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcasts right in the middle of it, boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I just did an interview with a friend of mine

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Speaker 1: who happens to be the Niners play by play guy,

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Speaker 1: Greg Papa on radio. He used to do the Raiders

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Speaker 1: for about twenty plus years. He does basketball, baseball, he

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Speaker 1: does every sport, but football is his passion. And he's just, uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the Cleveland or tonight, have some drinks

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Speaker 1: with him later. I think some people are gonna be

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Speaker 1: there so fired up on that. I've ran into Rob Gronkowski.

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick had to just be asked with Jerome bettis

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Speaker 1: no big deal. It is kind of cool, Like I

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Speaker 1: don't I've truly been starstruck in my life. Brett far If,

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Speaker 1: I remember meeting when I was in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: I just remember him walking by me like kind of

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Speaker 1: But I've never done that before, but I did to him,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of, you know, the little kid. Because

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Speaker 1: if if you work in sports, and I've been lucky

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Speaker 1: because you love doing it. Like I wouldn't be in sports.

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Speaker 1: I guess there are some people that I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if they like sports. Uh, you know, you should

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Speaker 1: be a fan. And when you grew up, and if

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Speaker 1: you grew up someone like not like Kyle Shanahan, who's

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Speaker 1: around it from from birth. I remember when I was

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Speaker 1: you know, Jerome bettis right, there's Rob Gronkowski. Now he

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Speaker 1: younger guys, probably not as much as more like this morning,

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Speaker 1: And he says it first, and I look and it's

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Speaker 1: arguably the greatest left tackle on the history of the sport.

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Speaker 1: of a geek out fest. Now you can say be

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Speaker 1: that gets to enjoy like how cool, how freaking cool

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Speaker 1: really gonna talk shit about other people. Right, you're not

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that stuff doesn't matter. It does.

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Speaker 1: interview with the voice of the forty Niners, Greg Papa Okay,

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Speaker 1: like a basketball chest pass. But he does it with

424
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Speaker 1: one hand, the one to Kelsey on the goal line.

425
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: When Kelsey came back, it wasn't even a throw. It

426
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: was like he pushed them the ball. He just it's

427
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: like he's tests. Some guys are just blessed with hand

428
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 1: eye coordination another level, but throwing a football, for almost everybody,

429
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: there has to be an element of powering the ball

430
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 1: when he when he steps on The one thing to

431
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: look for in this game is he loves to step

432
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: into the B gap over the right guard. When you

433
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: watch him and move a little bit to his right,

434
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: stopping up into the pocket, duvernight tardy. If the right guard,

435
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: he's a good player, but you gotta get pressure into

436
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: his right to the be gap. Just watch when he's

437
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: got a clean pocket and he can plant the foot

438
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: and then on through. That's where well, then he's a

439
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: little bit like his dad. You know, I did the

440
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: A's game because he threw hard as dad through what

441
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: I remember, he threw about with an over the top

442
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: curve ball and he's lit him up. He had, But

443
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean he he pitched with the Yankees for four

444
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: he pitched eleven years in the Major league. Is a

445
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: good picture. But there he just different arm angles. He's

446
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna get the ball there. It's just the question is

447
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: can our pass rush get on him abruptly enough of

448
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: the time. And I'm talking two point to two point

449
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 1: three if he gets to five even uh, if they

450
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: can get on him enough and just rattle him a

451
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: little bit. And it has to be what I like

452
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Speaker 1: into a burning building. It can't be where he's a

453
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: fire escape to get out to the right. He could

454
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: jump out a window. You gotta bring it so the

455
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: whole building is just gonna collapse on his head. So

456
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: that means equal rush. This chackles Buckner and Armstead inside

457
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 1: Stephan Wisnewski their left guard or I know, well power

458
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: bothers him. You put Boast over him. You put Buckner, Armstead,

459
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: Sheldon Day over him. Even in some situations to speed

460
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 1: him up, you put forward who's you know he's been

461
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: able to convert speed to power. He can, he could fly,

462
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: So he's moving so fast. Right, he gets and he's

463
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: a he's a different athlete game weight. When he was

464
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, when he was young, the word was

465
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: run at de Ford because he was always hurt. He can.

466
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: He didn't lift this year. He's was watching him there

467
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: nice next bigger. He's just a bigger man. His first

468
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: step is ridicuus. He's Vaughan Miller, Derrick Thomas type fast.

469
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Speaker 1: So they're gonna if they're gonna win this game. I mean,

470
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: they gotta get home on Mahomes and knock him down,

471
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Speaker 1: sack him. And I'm talking about not Hurry's. He's got

472
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Speaker 1: to hit the ground, what fifteen times the ground yet

473
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Speaker 1: him even when he's throwing the ball, and knock him

474
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Speaker 1: down the hill of him every play. So he's seeing

475
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: goes like there was a point in the NFC Championship

476
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Speaker 1: game or Aaron Rodgers started to see ghosts. The rush

477
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: was not there. He had more time what happened to

478
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Speaker 1: Cousins the week before. Just he just started. It takes

479
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Speaker 1: you out. And Tim Ryan, my partner, calls it the

480
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: rattle rush where you rattle him. You did. You're not

481
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: necessarily getting there, but he's starting to feel you. Even

482
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: when it's not there, he just speaks. It's why the

483
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: one guy that is unfazed any time he plays a

484
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: great nine or defense is Russell because you can't really

485
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: rattle him because he just keeps. And I think this

486
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: kid has a little rustle in him because he makes

487
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Speaker 1: the place behind the line of scrimmage totally. You've called

488
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Speaker 1: every I mean the last thirty five years, every elite

489
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Speaker 1: athlete from Barry Bonds, to Michael Jordan, to Kobe to

490
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Speaker 1: Steph to all the NFL guys. I mean just his

491
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Speaker 1: two years. I guess its how I mean, is this

492
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Speaker 1: one of the more remarkable players any sport you've ever seen? Well,

493
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Speaker 1: he'd be the first super Bowl the guy who super

494
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Speaker 1: Bowl champion and an m v P. He'd be the

495
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: youngest in the history of the league. And I in

496
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: the eye test, it's clear like he do you remember

497
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: his draft? So when I'm watching him Solomon Thomas, yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: out that trap. But I when I'm watching him at

499
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, I hated him. The word I kept using,

500
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you and I were texting, that

501
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: was just reckless. This guy's reckless. I see him throwing

502
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: the ball from his thigh pad under hey like he's

503
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: playing high lie. I'm like, what is he? And Andy

504
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: and Beach love that. So then and then you know

505
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: Kafka uh Naggy was there, so you know I was

506
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: doing the Raider Games then, so I got an eye

507
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Speaker 1: on chief So I'm watching I think it was Chiefs

508
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: dot Com. I'm watching their practice video from training camp,

509
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, who is this number? Fifteen? Tom Flores

510
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: used to wear fifteen back at the center, Like that's

511
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Speaker 1: not told. I'm like, dear Lord, he's holding the ball

512
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: higher now, his mechanics are better. He's been a year

513
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Speaker 1: on Alex and that was in training camp, and then

514
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: I watched all the preseason games. I was enamored with him.

515
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Speaker 1: Remember the Week seventeen game against Denver was so then

516
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: so then the next year he's named the starter. And

517
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the lead at che that I've seen. So

518
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: Mitch Holt, this who's a great friend of mine. Voice

519
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs comes on? Whoever thought you'd be doing

520
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl again? You know, with it again? And

521
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: then what worries me in this game? How long has

522
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: he been doing the Chiefs? Was Kevin Harland? Yeah, Kevin

523
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: did it before. What worries me? I haven't called the

524
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: forty Niners the Raiders, not one time all year. But

525
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: when I think of the Chiefs, it's the Raiders in

526
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Raiders Chiefs, right, you know touchdowns. Well, it's

527
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: just now I'm just worried that I'm gonna call the

528
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: forty Niners the Raiders. Did you see him before the game?

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Speaker 1: Because it's the Raider's Chiefs Raiders Chiefs. I'm just so

530
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: embedded in that team. Yeah. So anyway, um, so the

531
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: game will be closer. So it's Mitch Holt. This comes

532
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Speaker 1: on the air with us. It's early in mahomes, it's

533
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Speaker 1: you know what it was. But when they're playing the

534
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Speaker 1: forty Niners week three, and he got but he was

535
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Speaker 1: remembers Pittsburgh game the week before. It was just awesome, awesome.

536
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Speaker 1: What was he like? I think he'd throw him ten

537
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: touchdown passes and no interception his opening game against his

538
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: opening game against the Chargers was like four sick you

539
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: had the first two games. I think he threw ten.

540
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it was. So this comes on third game as

541
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: a starter, he drops He's Steph Curry on me and

542
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, says it over the air, yes, and then

543
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: the step of Curry. Steph's already unanimous m v P

544
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: two time, three time championship. Steph Curry's already Steph Curry.

545
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, what I texted Mids the other night Holmes

546
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: is step three ways his the range on the arm.

547
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: So what Steph has done, He's changed the geometry of

548
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: the basketball court because he's shooting. You gotta he can't

549
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: do that you're not gonna go out and guard him

550
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: because then you gotta lift her. Well, everybody's going back door,

551
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: but changes the You have to guard him one dribble

552
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: across mid court and that's not that's never been done.

553
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: So he's got to get that shot. He'll make it

554
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: enough and then you gotta so we do have to

555
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: get up on him a little bit, but now we're

556
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: coming way out to guard their offense. Defense. Everything is

557
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: so much easier than the ball handling Louis step and

558
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Steph's left hand is psycho. Steph's got the second best

559
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, he and Steve Nash the two best left

560
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: hand passing. He can't tell which is STEP's dominant hand.

561
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes like I was talking about earlier, Uh, the basketball

562
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: half a chess pass to Kelsey in the championship game,

563
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: it's like a little or the divisional game against Houston,

564
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: that's a basketball play. Then the mean, the one he's

565
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: probably most known for is so my thing was, don't

566
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Speaker 1: not let him get out to his right. You've got

567
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: to pay if he does get out, get him to

568
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: make him roll left. So what's probably the most spectacular

569
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: play is when Vaughan Miller's chasing his ass, running him

570
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: to his left right. Thursday night, Vaughan is in Mahomes

571
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: down Mahomes. He's got Von Miller chasing him. He cannot

572
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: square his shoe. He does not have time to decelerate,

573
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: turn his shoulders in front the line. He's got it,

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00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: So what is you do? He throws with his left

575
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: hand to Tyreek Hill. It's like, that's Steph Curry. And

576
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: then how about the no look where he he'll like,

577
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, he'll be looking this way and throwback. That's

578
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: that's basketball. And then the other thing he does that

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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: Steff does is explode in quarters. Steph Curry like Durant

580
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: when he got thirty two. Durant went eight eight, eight,

581
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: eight every quarter like the one playoff in Houston. Steph

582
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: had zero in the first half, thirty three in the

583
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: second half. Mahomes. Maybe he'll be he can't get it

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00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: on a newtrid multiple four touchdown quarters once he starts

585
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: John they went six for six, six possessions, six touchdowns.

586
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: He said, twenty eight point quarters against the Raiders. He

587
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: did it and he did it against Houston. So like

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00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: you're a fan, I'm taking it. Could not speed a

589
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: bowl he's you know what, sometimes I wonder you can

590
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: fool him a little bit, and he's not. This is

591
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. The area you missed

592
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: out that I heard Andy talk about earlier this week

593
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: one thing that he liked because he knew he was

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00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: a project. They actually thought that they were gonna read

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00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: shirt him two years. There were no rush to get

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00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: rid of Alex that week seventeen game and Andy had

597
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Naggie and children and his staff work on the playoff

598
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: game and he just worked with Mahomes. At the end

599
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: of the week before they played, he realized, God, this

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00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: guy is football smart. Then he played like that. Then

601
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Alex lost the playoff games. So he said that what

602
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: they really liked about him obviously his personality, like Steph,

603
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: humble guy. But why was he that way? Where he

604
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: came from His dad was a big leaguer being around

605
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: not to unfazed by the hype the money. Do you

606
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: have like Steph, Steph unfazed by the money he made you?

607
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Do you have any concern that Mahomes is gonna get

608
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: his head too big when he gets paid, like he

609
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: probably won't if it's a lot of money, But you doubt.

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00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't know him well enough, but I would say

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00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: what you've read and about him. Leteinberg represented for me

612
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: for years at least coming on radio Roady of you

613
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: talk to me this week him he's gonna get? How

614
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: much is he gonna get? Hunt? Well, I saw that

615
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: that Uh Clarke Hunt must have said this yesterday. They

616
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: might not do it, and I wouldn't do it either

617
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: until next year. I'd play this rookie deal and just

618
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: stacked the team and try to win a couple because

619
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: that number is going to be massive and the cb

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00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: A changes go way below the salary cap. They have money,

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Speaker 1: They do have money. Why wouldn't I wouldn't. I wouldn't extend.

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00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tear up his contract. I just extended. I'd

623
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: let him play. He's a first round pick, so you

624
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: got him for five good money? Yeah, Well, I pick

625
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: up his fifth year option right now. Yeah, So if

626
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: you want to extend him, we're gonna start in here six.

627
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just like they did with Todd Gurland.

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00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: There's no reason to tear it up. So whenever you

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00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: do what you do it, you know you'd probably what

630
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: if he what injury. Could he suffer where you wouldn't

631
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: pay him, he can still give it to I mean

632
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: maybe if he had an elbow or something, it would

633
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: take a lot. Yeah, I mean, but so beyond that,

634
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: he is what he is. But the second generation element

635
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: is also there. I just didn't get there yet. He's

636
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: that's like step is, you know, being Dell Curry's son.

637
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: And it's not just the lineage and the ability and

638
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: the body, it's just the poise. He said. I you know,

639
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: I forts played the Chiefs in the preseason. I walked

640
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: out with him after just stood behind him and watched

641
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: his group. He's just he's he reminds me so much

642
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: a Curry and just everywaying creezy. Like he's like some

643
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: guys get feel the moment lock a little. Like most

644
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: NBA players, you cannot get near them on game day.

645
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: You can talk to Steph. I brought my family the game.

646
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: You know, we've watched him up. It's six ten for

647
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: a seven forty. You know, he comes over and starts

648
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: talking to me. I'm like, so they're just a breezy

649
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: no big deal, not with a football player. Normally you

650
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: don't go up and talk to him. The day of

651
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: a game, you let a breathe, but he garoppolos like

652
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: that to Dan before game. He's all right, she's at

653
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: he's got he's got the earphones on. He's kind of

654
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: locked in. But I think this guy in every regard,

655
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: Mitch was right, he really is Steph. He's he's changed

656
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: the game. That who's the Niners best player two of

657
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: two best George Kittle on offense, Nick Boston defense is incredible.

658
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: He's better than his brother. I mean, I his brother

659
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: is so good. Why did a scout tell me he

660
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: thought the difference was because he thinks he's like, listen,

661
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Joey's elite too. He's like when you watched Nick, what's

662
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: mind blowing is how consistently hard he plays on every snap,

663
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Like when Khalil hit his peak, like three years in.

664
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: He was just playing hard at the majority of the time. J. J.

665
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Watt used to be like that. It was like, God,

666
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: Nick is just that play he made. Wasn't the Minnesota

667
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: game where he like turned into a dB when he

668
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: dropped in carbage on Dalvin car Listen, I wasn't. I

669
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: wasn't a huge Nick Bosa fan coming out in the

670
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: sense of the hype. It was like, he's not gonna

671
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: be better than Joey. I've been on he's the best

672
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: defensive rookie I've seen ten years talking about Kalil Khalil.

673
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Khalil wasn't waste. Took him to Khalil did not have

674
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: a sack for ten weeks. What was Vaughan like as

675
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: a rookie. He was pretty good. Vaughn was great. Well,

676
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: Vaughn's just pure speed, so you know, but where Vaughan

677
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: was lacking absolutely. I remember the Raiders going Jumbo, putting

678
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: an extra tackle over him and running right att Remember

679
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: we we ran right at him. He had to come

680
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: off the field. But Vaughan then he went remember he's

681
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: doing that pass rushing summit and he would have it

682
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: in San Francisco and he would run on the beach though.

683
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: And I remember standing us to him the next year,

684
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, look at his legs because he's not the

685
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: biggest guy, no, but he's he's gotten his lower body,

686
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: his trunks, his legs have gotten stronger. He's got to

687
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: stand up in the run game. And I think de Ford, likewise,

688
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: d was a guy they ran. We used to run

689
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: a d Ford. He didn't want to run a Tom

690
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: Baldi or Justin Houston, though he ran a d Ford.

691
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: So but he's gotten a little stronger. He can't kiss

692
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: Rag doll Um. But think about Boss's brother, Joey was

693
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: just so. He was immediately a great run player and

694
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: not just an ed setter. He could do that. He

695
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: collapsed the edge, shove it all in. How about the

696
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: play in the playoff game where Nick gets off the

697
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: block and makes the one hand tackle. He's getting blocked

698
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: on his outside shoulder. He like just shoves that away.

699
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: It comes in with his free arm inside. He's just

700
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: or even lunching. Those guys would tell you we thought

701
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: he was good. He's better than we thought. I mean,

702
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you have that type rookie season in college,

703
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: but you're thinking, can he play like that? And then

704
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: he got hurt. Was so tight he looked like he

705
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: may break down. And the one thing I did I

706
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: did at Alabama game last year the Iron Bowl. So

707
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: I watched it was late in the year against Auburn.

708
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: So I watched Quinn and Williams all year. Quittin Williams

709
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: was it dominant. He was his one year was elite.

710
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, but but Nick was starting that way. If

711
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: you look at the first two and a half games

712
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: before we got hurt. At halftime the TCU game, he

713
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: had two and a half dominant, but the differences got hurt.

714
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: The thing with Bosa, he doesn't even need if he

715
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: just maintain this for seven years the Hall of Famer, like,

716
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna naturally get better. But if he just is

717
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: this moving forward, the Niners hit a walk off grants

718
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: like that's all you want to pick, like William, Yeah,

719
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: he's got health. And Quentin got hurt this year. I

720
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: was the iron he missed a lot of games. Who

721
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: you got, Okay, let's let's let's go this. Chiefs win.

722
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: If if the pass rush can't get to him, he

723
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: gets out and they're gonna run by. I think the

724
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: Forts have got to get away from the cover three

725
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: a single high that you've got to they have a

726
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: fast corner. Well, Emmanuel Moseley is fast, but you're not

727
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna man match them. Uh. These guys are elite, elite

728
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: there artmen tire their skilled Sammy Robinson and then what

729
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: the one formation that really is concerning to me? And

730
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: they run it all the one They put three receivers bunch.

731
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: They call a trade left and they bunch them all

732
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: to the right. When you do that on the other

733
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: side of Sherman, they I don't think it matters why

734
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: because you don't even know Kelsey's the one side. So

735
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: how many tight ends have you seen where they go

736
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: three by one? The tight ends the one I saw

737
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: one of them today. He was walking through Rob Gronkowski.

738
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Rob got it some. I don't even think Antonio Gates.

739
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: They try to hide him a little bit. He didn't

740
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: have that kind of star treatment. You couldn't do it

741
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: with Kiddle if you want to, without question. But Kittle's

742
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: more of an inline guy. Where they use Kittle is

743
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, drag him, sneak him out underneath. He's like

744
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: a Brent Jones block for a beat, get out. Kittles

745
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: not the route runner. Kelsey is. Kelsey is a better

746
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: route runner. But but but Kittles's not close. But so

747
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: what do you do Kesey's lead going over the middle.

748
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: I think you just so when they go to that

749
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: three by one and as well as three receivers bunched

750
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: and it's always Tyreek, not always, but usually it's Tyreek

751
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: and Sammy and then the third one is either Jamarca

752
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: Robinson number eleven or hardman. And they're hardman maybe as

753
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: fast as Tyreek. Skills are pretty good, so but he's

754
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna be good. So then they're all budged and then

755
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: Kelsey sing gold. Kelsey is a wide receiver. You've got

756
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: to treat him like a wide receiver. So do you

757
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: when they cover? Who covers? They play mainly zone, but

758
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I think what because he's so good at it just

759
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: in the off you can make the teams that have

760
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: beaten them. But you'll let him take ten yards all

761
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: day long. You don't want to give the twenty yards.

762
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: You can't give him ten yards to me, you double Kelsey,

763
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: uh most of the time. And then well you double

764
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey attack. It's in and out and then hill over

765
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: the top. So you're you're they're not. I mean, they'll

766
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: blitz some and we're talking generalities here, but most snaps

767
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna rush four, drop seven, so it's seven over five.

768
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: No matter what they do, they're not gonna send out

769
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: more than five. So you double. You can double two.

770
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: Kelsey's got to get the in and out like the

771
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates treatment. He may even want to vise him. Uh.

772
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: The Fortyers don't typically get this exotic. They just play

773
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: their things, but he's a little different. I don't think

774
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: the cover three is just a single high. I think

775
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: with this team's speed here Jakosky Tart, I think you

776
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: put Tart on one hash or one numbers, and you

777
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: put Jimmy on Ward on the other cover gotta play

778
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: cover two. It could be too many snaps. You play man,

779
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: but it's too man, or it's too deep man under,

780
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: or it's just cover two. And then I think you

781
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: always basically like in basketball, saying you're not gonna shoot threes.

782
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna guard the three point line. We're not gonna

783
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: let you hear. The thing that Tyreek does, he's so skilled,

784
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: he's such as his speed straight line speed is so

785
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: scary that he gets tremendous cushion on comeback routes. So

786
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: you'll see him run hard at you for seventeen yards

787
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: and then if you're covered, I'm you're like to get back.

788
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: What if he's just running the goal? Buy me, it's

789
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: a streak. I can get back, so I said, so

790
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: we can lock it up to come back to the wall,

791
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: make the comeback at like twelve yards now, still got

792
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: a little cushion. Five, got three yards you can go

793
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: left right now by And he's a punt returner, so

794
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: he feels comfortable in that. Speed is not just straight

795
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: line track speed, it's football functionality. Start. He's like you know,

796
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: years ago they had Dante Hall. He's not quite that guy,

797
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: but he'll he'll move on you and juky. So if

798
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: he comes back, he can break a seventeen turns around,

799
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: come back at twelve, catches a splatter from homes and

800
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: now he's got three yards on you. Now can you rap?

801
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: Now that's the game back yards and then you know

802
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: some you'll tip, some mahomes will get out and get flushed.

803
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: They won't hit him every time. When they do hit

804
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: that three or four times, don't let it go. Give

805
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: him twelve yards, give him seven. You put him on

806
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: the ground if he makes two of those touchdown. The

807
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: trump thing about my theory, that's scary. And this is

808
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: where Fred Warner has got to be dominant. So he's

809
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: really so when it's covered three, it's a three D

810
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: four under right, you're buzzing with four under. Now if

811
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: you're going, if we're going to you know two safeties deep.

812
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: Now we only have three to buzz. We're taking tart

813
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: out of that. I'm thinking to shut the run game

814
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: down with seven, maybe even six certain times run it

815
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: he might, and I'd much rather have him handed off

816
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: to Damian Williams and Shady than have that guy, you know,

817
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: throw all over the place. So on the flip side,

818
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: the Niners do, they just keep doing what they've been doing.

819
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball and let's see if Kansas

820
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: City can stop. But I think the Kansas City weakness

821
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: of their entire team as their linebackers, and I don't uh.

822
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: What they seem to me to be doing is playing

823
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: the two former Cowboys in the base. So you've got

824
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: Hitchens and Damien Wilson. Hitchens has the green dot. I

825
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what they're doing with the other green dot.

826
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: I went to UH opening night last night just one

827
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: of the things I wanted to do was interview Ben Neeman.

828
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: That's the nickel linebacker he does. So have you ever

829
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: heard that? Well, you can have your nickel linebacker, have

830
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: one too, but most of the time that he doesn't

831
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: come out the field right. But most guys, you have

832
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: one guy that does not and the guy that wears

833
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: the second green dot, your backup mike that comes in

834
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: because of injury. So what they do is because they

835
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: don't have a true backup mike really right, because they

836
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: use Hitchens and Wilson at the base, and then they

837
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: bring in name. He's fast. But if he's in the game,

838
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: like for the Vikings, like Kendricks would never come out

839
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: of the game. He's he's the green dot. Will teams

840
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to have a guy like that. Honestly, I can't think

841
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: of any time. And I'm big and you know how

842
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: much like stuff because it tells you what personnel group,

843
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: quarter packages. So if their weakness, so they have to

844
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: Nama was telling me, was he told you got a helmet?

845
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Actually should explain this so they if they're on the

846
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: field together, he got take one's got to take it off.

847
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: It's illegal. It's illegal. You can't have two green dots.

848
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: What are they ever on the field together? Snaps but

849
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: hit shots the me's fast, so then what happened to penalize?

850
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: You can't have to and then if you're on special teams,

851
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: it's gotta come off. So you gotta have a jefferent helmet.

852
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't have teach what if we go to

853
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: the no huddles, take a helmet off. So here's the

854
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: part that that a little bit confounds. You notice things

855
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: that other people don't know because it helps me call

856
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: the game because I got on those I want package.

857
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: So the outlier, there's Reggie Raglan. So Reggie Raglan to

858
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: me is we can't run. He's an old school Levon

859
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Kirkland Mike. They don't exist. You know, big butt linebacker

860
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: can't run. He comes in a lot of the nickel

861
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: sometimes they just don't have the bot. But if he's

862
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: in the game, you gotta go right after him, make

863
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: him cover. He's not a nickel lot. It was like

864
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: when they played Minnesota when Barr was in the game

865
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: and you get him manned up right out. I don't know.

866
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: I think that's the weakness of their team. So I

867
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: would think, you know, and it's his clothing line kittle

868
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: over the middle. I mean, we're Jimmy, We're Jimmy has

869
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: really k kot m kid over the middle good. So

870
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: he uh, Jimmy's Jimmy's so good. In between the hashes,

871
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Strong is getting the ball go in

872
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: the middle. Now, sometimes I'll get fooled by a buzz

873
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: linebacker and not see him. Kendrew, keek Lee, Eric Kendricks,

874
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: He's done at all time. That's why looks so bad

875
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: because him. You know, but I think this this linebacking

876
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: crew and even their base guys have a hard time disengaging.

877
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: I see Wilson gets stuck on blocks. I see Hitchens

878
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: get stuck on blocks. Even Raglan, who's one skill to

879
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: me as a run player, he gets stuck on. Blake can't.

880
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: Chad Neeman is a runaround guy and you can lay on.

881
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: I like Sorenson. I think he's a great player, but

882
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: he's you know, he gotta play a two and eight

883
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: pound trust me for years. He's a good player. So

884
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: I that's the weakness of their team. I would say

885
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: is to attack them. But i'd answer your question. You know,

886
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: Kyle showed his hand. Maybe he can run it. I mean,

887
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: but you know what. The other commonality this game, not

888
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: just the forty nine eight four beating Marino, the New

889
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: York Giants of ninety beating the K gun with Belichick

890
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: and what did they do? How good was that offense?

891
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: Was fantastic? But they scored an points and what what?

892
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: But what about it? What did Parcels do? They ran

893
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: O J Anderson down their ass all day. The time

894
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: of possession in that game was forty So the best

895
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: play stop that bills off and they look at the numbers.

896
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: The bills off was Jim Kelly the player. Though this

897
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: guy is Jim Kelly, a good player over it? I

898
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: thought he was over I mean he Houston Gambler's USFL. See.

899
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: I've seen some people I know Trent Dilford said that

900
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: he sees a little Denver Seattle. They'll blowout game. My

901
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: my issue with that though Peyton's a sitting duck because

902
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: he can't move. This kid can do, so to me,

903
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: it's just hard to blow them out because he can move.

904
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: That would be my I'm not saying that they might

905
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: not win by fifteen, but I don't think you could

906
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: see a Chiefs game looking like that. Well here's the

907
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: other side of it. Say Kansas City does score in

908
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: the thirties, Well, they don't think the forty Niners could score.

909
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: They can't. They can't. They laid forty eight on New Orleans,

910
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: so they don't want to play. That's not their terms.

911
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: But they could ca have to whatever is required. If

912
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City scores forty one, we gotta score four. Kansaskinny

913
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: scored seventeen, they're in trouble. The Niners could be fine, right,

914
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: but even if Kansas City scores a big number. So

915
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: when you break it down, the Forts can beat you

916
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: running the ball, they can beat you throwing the ball.

917
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: They've done both. Their defense can shut your run game down,

918
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: they can shut your pass games. Jimmy throwing passes in

919
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: a month. What is the one aspect of these matchup

920
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: when you size him up? The one unit that is

921
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: lacking Kansas City's defense. Now, I know they've gotten better

922
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: over the last ten games. Let's find out Chris Jones.

923
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: I think you can run him. You know, aspect of

924
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: this game is tempo, is no huddle? Uh? And also

925
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: you know the Super Bowl is famous for gadget plays

926
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: because you have an extra week to prepare. You know,

927
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Philly Special Brashad Breylon will dub. You can double move him,

928
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: he will take the cheese on. Some action you can do.

929
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: You can do exotic things with jet sweepers, throwing the ball,

930
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: or the reverses or the Super Bowl just historically because

931
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: you're just you watch every game they play. I mean

932
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: you do anyway from the Super Bowl that extra week,

933
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: you just sometimes you overcook it in your mind. But

934
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: you I think you also get a little more gadget

935
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: plays like go back to Pittsburgh when they won Super

936
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Bowl forty that Antoine Randall l passed two Hines Ward.

937
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the way it went when they beat U Seattle?

938
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: When they beat Seattle in the Super Bowl forty Cower

939
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl? But what that game was? Stuck in the mud,

940
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: slow scoring game, fastival. He broke a big run. But

941
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: where they pop that game? I think it was I

942
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: think it was Arians, maybe Malarkey, uh, just a creative

943
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or just and you know, Join Randole can

944
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: throw up a quarterback in college, so they ran. You know,

945
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: he threw the ball, I mean just and the Patriots

946
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: have done that. Throw the ball to Brady. Remember Matt

947
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: Ryan caught one? Or Nick Foles? Yeah, I mean actually

948
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: catch one down the sideline and or Ryan. I think

949
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: they did that later they tried it for Brady fingertips.

950
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: Nick catch two balls in that or did did Ryan catch?

951
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: What did Kyle do it? Remember Brady just missed one

952
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: off his fingers in that game. It was the game

953
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: they lost, It was Philly. It was the games probably

954
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: the folds before the Philly Special. So anyway, I'm just

955
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you get some weird with the Saints in

956
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: the open up first second half to clip that game.

957
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a game. You're laying it all

958
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: out and you know what else is a big in

959
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: this game? His quarterbacks running back and watch Joe Montana

960
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: plays with the leg. Well, you hit that back for

961
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Homes in the last week. You just don't feel like

962
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: you can hit that third down. You can't fit it in.

963
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: You're not gonna risk it. Mahomes is their leading rusher

964
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: in the playoffs games over Garoppolo, Jimmy'll, Jimmy'll lay out

965
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: and died. This is it, man, There's there's no game

966
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: to he love four next week. You're not playing again

967
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: in September. So what's it like for broadcast empty the

968
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: kitchen saying I'm gonna blow up at the opening kickoff?

969
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, are you I'll get you out of here

970
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: on this as as a broadcaster, though, I mean, this

971
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: is this is the Mecca, right, I mean, this is

972
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: there's no event because even a World Series you might

973
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: not get to a game seven. It's just it's one

974
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: game and it's it's it's the biggest evage and try

975
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: of it the history. And you know what's nice about

976
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: just you know, it's my first time having being at

977
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: a radio roach where I'm calling the game as the

978
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: voice of the team. When the Raiders went to Super

979
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: Bowl thirty seven, we didn't have two weeks between the game.

980
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: It was one week and I remember doing my radio show,

981
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: but I did it from the team hotel, so I

982
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: wasn't on a radio. Well, I got more access to

983
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: players because they were at the off the field was.

984
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: It was just different. It was more sterile to be

985
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: around it. And so you know, I love the history

986
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: of the game. I've watched every for Super Bowl. I

987
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: remember watching live is super Bowl four in the Chiefs

988
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: one They're only Super Bowl. So I've I've watched everyone

989
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: and then just to me, this is just a football

990
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: festival of overload where and then you know when the

991
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: week is over wherein years past, I'm sad because I

992
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: typically do radio role than fly home and watch the

993
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: game and home with my family. Now my family's flight

994
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: here and we're gonna go broadcast the game. It's, uh,

995
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, a chance for this great franchise to get there. Six.

996
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: So I'm having a great, great, great week and a

997
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: great season. Thanks for coming on. Have a great calling

998
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: for your brother. Well, it's hard to beat. He's not

999
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: your play by play guy. He he knows his stuff,

1000
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: you know. He kind of talks like a coach. He

1001
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: likes football more than me. He I don't know anyone,

1002
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes broadcasters, I think they think they like it.

1003
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: They don't like it like that. This guy likes sports

1004
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: is in general, probably more than any human I've ever met.

1005
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Like I I live for him. I clearly I'm on

1006
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: the high end as well. He likes him more, especially football,

1007
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: and I watches so much football. So you know, for

1008
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: the one Super Bowl that he made with the Raiders,

1009
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: it was a long time ago, and then they were

1010
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: so terrible for so long and the butt of every joke.

1011
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: He gets hired by the Niners. Let's you know, this

1012
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: isn't meant to be a shot if you're a Raider

1013
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: fan out there. But they are a much bigger brand. Uh,

1014
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: They're just a much bigger organization and first year go

1015
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, so you know, he got fired from the

1016
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: Raiders as well. He had a The irony too, is

1017
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: that he made the owner mad he had as a

1018
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: radio show because he said they shouldn't hire Mike Shanahan

1019
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: because Mike Shanahan had a beef with Al Davis and

1020
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Al Davis was his guy. And now he works for

1021
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: the team that has Mike Shanahan's son, Kyle. But he

1022
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: liked Mike Shanahan. It was more just the disrespect for

1023
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Al Mark Davis. Really petty. Raiders fired him and um, yeah,

1024
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, small world. Luckily he lived in an area

1025
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: where there's two NFL teams in the nine as are like, well,

1026
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: you're a guy, and now one year in he's in

1027
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Let's go a couple of middleoff mail bags.

1028
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I gotta get a little more active on insight. I

1029
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: told people I was gonna be all over the place

1030
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram doing the Super Bowl. I'll try to get

1031
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: better as the uh as the week goes. Okay, let's

1032
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: bang out a couple of questions at John Middlecoff on

1033
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: my Instagram. It's where you get in after months of

1034
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: listening great show content. I just followed you on Instagram

1035
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: and guess what, you don't look how I thought you

1036
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: would look, So that means I look fantastic. Huh. Question,

1037
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: how many years, if even measurable at this stage do

1038
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: you think the Giants are from contending for the next

1039
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. I'd say at least two, and that's

1040
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: best case to me. The only chance they are even

1041
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: remotely close is if Daniel Jones flips the switch and

1042
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: becomes a Pro Bowl level quarterback in the next two years.

1043
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: And I just think Jason Garrett's the OC. You got

1044
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: Joe Judge, which we know nothing about beside a special

1045
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: team's coach. There's just a lot of questions, a lot

1046
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: more questions right now than answers on the New York Giants.

1047
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: But you got to say, Kwan, so at least enjoy that.

1048
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: Do you think the Giants can become a super good

1049
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: We got a lot of Giants fans become a Super

1050
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: Bowl contender With Gettleman as the GM. I'm doubtful with

1051
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: some of his baffling decisions and quotes of the media,

1052
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: but he does seem capable of drafting good players. At least.

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00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for the podcast. Well, I think actually it's

1054
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: a two part question. I think it's Daniel Jones gonna

1055
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: have to be dramatically better and Joe Judge is gonna

1056
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: have to be a good coach, and I just think

1057
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: are unknown on Joe Judge. I can't even begin to

1058
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: have an opinion, you know, I got Regardless of what

1059
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: I think of his press conference, it doesn't mean a

1060
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 1: damn thing because I hated La Flour's press conference six

1061
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: months later or eight months later or whenever. I guess

1062
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: it would have been like nine because it was actually,

1063
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, longer than that. A year later, he was

1064
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game. So I'm what press conference

1065
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: is regardless, it's just a media take. I don't know.

1066
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: I know nothing about his coaching ability, absolutely nothing. So

1067
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on him being good. Big Charger fan

1068
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: from Philly, and the chart is officially moving on from

1069
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: Phil Who should they take? I would trade up for

1070
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: two of but that usually isn't what to LESCo does.

1071
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: Herbert seems like the safe pick here, but I've been

1072
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of buzz on Jordan's Love. I don't

1073
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: think you can move on from Philip Rivers to Jordan's Love.

1074
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: To me, it has to be Herbert, or it has

1075
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: to be to a uh my guests would it becomes Herbert,

1076
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: But it's kind of clear that they like Herbert, so

1077
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: it's already getting out there. I just i'd be careful.

1078
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: Teams are gonna trade up for these guys. As I said,

1079
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: I think three of them are gonna go in the

1080
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: top five, and i'd have to double check the draft.

1081
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: But aren't the charges draft in sixth So they're gonna

1082
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: have to get up a couple of spots. Now, the

1083
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: good thing about being six doesn't cost you that much

1084
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: to get a three or two right when you're at eighteen,

1085
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: To get to three or two, it's a lot. When

1086
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: you're at six, it's just, you know, a couple of twos.

1087
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: I love the show, but last week's Friday episode and

1088
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: this week's Monday episode aren't showing up on the three

1089
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: and out section on Apple Podcast. I thought i'd let

1090
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: you know they're showing up on the Collins Herd section.

1091
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: I thought I listened to mine on not Listen, but

1092
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: Check just updated it the other day that it was

1093
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: on the three and outpo cast section, so I don't

1094
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: know if it's not. I'm sorry. I don't know what

1095
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: to tell you. Good thing is we got a little

1096
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: dual feed. You can always go to Colin. Where do

1097
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: you see Philip Rivers going? Is there any chance the

1098
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: Charges trade up into the top five and take to

1099
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: Herbert Yep? Are the Jags of possible landing spot for

1100
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: free agent quarterbacks? Uh No? The fulls experiment failed miserably,

1101
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: and I don't think anyone seas Minshi was a long

1102
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: term starter. I think the question is of Philip Rivers,

1103
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: where does he go? I think you'd have some Is

1104
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: he better than Ryan Tannehill right now? I don't know.

1105
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: I thought Philip Rivers looked pretty washed. Would Jamis? Jamis

1106
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: stars a lot of picks, but he is a really

1107
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: explosive player. Is Philip that level explosive? Carolina? You know?

1108
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Would they cut Cam and go with him? I don't know.

1109
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot more questions than answers

1110
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: right now, and uh I really don't have a good feel.

1111
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: Would John Gruden be interested to me the Raiders Tampa

1112
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee if he truly becomes a free agent, meaning they

1113
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: don't franchise him. I think we'll kick the tires and

1114
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: talk to him about options. He clearly will a starting quarterback.

1115
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: I think the Chicago Bears, I mean Mr Bisky, even

1116
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: as bad as Philip Rivers was in two thousand nineteen,

1117
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: I would take Philip Rivers with one leg over Mr

1118
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: Bisky in a heartbeat. There any other questions, I've been

1119
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: wondering your opinion got an ultimate What do you think

1120
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: about a U d L. I've been wondering your opinion

1121
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: on the ultimate frisbee in the professional league for a while,

1122
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: and since Fox agreed to show the game this week,

1123
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: I felt like it is being taken more seriously. I'll

1124
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know if this is complete joke

1125
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: or not. I didn't know that professional frisbee was a thing.

1126
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: I have no takes because I've literally never seen it.

1127
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: I've never played it. I've never seen it. But if

1128
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: if you're being serious and Fox does have it, I

1129
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: will check it out. I will definitely check it out.

1130
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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Be back again on Friday, and just

1131
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: keep swinging. Getting ready for this game, Audios, godspeed, talk

1132
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: to y'all soon. Enjoy the week, get ready for the

1133
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Let's go. Take