1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast. It's good for the 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: winds without further adow, that's what the game's all about. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: And you feel like you can't miss. 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it up. 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: If you try that again, absolutely not. 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to another episode of the Action Network podcast. This 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 4: is your Olympic Men's Basketball gambling preview pod. I'm here 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: with Action Network writers Raheem Palmer and Joe Delera and folks. 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 4: Reminder that we've got several new podcasts debuting this August 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: from Action Network, including one just for NBA betting. So 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: to hear myself Rahiem, Matt Moore, the whole crew from 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 4: our NBA team this offseason. Next season, make sure to 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: subscribe to that new podcast feed, which doesn't exist yet, 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: but we will announce here on Action Network podcast. Make 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 4: sure to get you a link for that, so stay 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 4: tuned for that. And Giannis Ontakoupo and the Milwaukee Bucks 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 4: are NBA champions. We waited fifty years, we shot a 18 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: lot of free throws. We made it the boxer champs. 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: Giannis was finals MB put up a fifty in the 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: final game. Let's get to Team USA. 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: So we're covering Olympic Men's hoops from all angles here 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 4: at Action By the way, As always, all odds here 23 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: are from bet MGM, the official odds provider of the 24 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: Action Network podcast. But make sure to take a look 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: at Action Network. Joe's got a piece off with all 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: the pros and the names to know from the twelve 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: teams at the Olympics. I've got a group play overview 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: and best bets coming up later today. The three of 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 4: us are going to be doing full previews, I think, 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: for every Team USA game all the way to the 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: gold medal. 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be. 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: Doing some best bets and futures plays and lots of 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: other stuff along the way. So before we get started, 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: I want to just do a quick overview of the 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: Olympic format, just because this only comes every four years 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: or five in this case, so we only have twelve 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: teams here and there. The game is becoming preter national, 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: so we are We're leaving out a lot of teams. 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: It's a pretty grueling qualifying process. We're already missing some 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: of the favorites. Serbia, Greece so Yannis is done for 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: the summer, Lithuania, Russia, those are all top ten teams 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: and the fever rankings. They're all not here, so you know, 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: like Lithuania just got knocked down qualifying earlier this month, Brazil, Canada, Turkey. 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: More teams are not here. So we got just twelve 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: teams left. We're split to three groups of four, so 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: the four each group does. 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: A round robin. 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: We start Saturday night, of course overnight because these are 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: in Japan, and then after groups we go the top 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: eight go to knockout play, so that's two from each 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: group and then two of the third place teams and 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: then you know, the drill from there, knockout all the 54 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: way to the end. And I think the gold medal 55 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: men's game is Saturday night, American time in primetime, August seventh. 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: So we're gonna do today. We're gonna look at each 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: group and talk about group winners and what you need 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: to know from each group and the teams there. We'll 59 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 4: do Team USA, the good, the bad, and the ugly. 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: It's been a rocky start. We lost to a couple 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: of teams in our exhibition play, so we'll tell you 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: about whether that matters and what the roster makeup looks 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 4: like now. So we're gonna come back to Team USA, 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: which is Group A in a little bit, so actually 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna start out with Group B today. So GROUPIE 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: actually looks like our most balanced group of the bunch. 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: In soccer terms, we maybe would call this the group 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: of death. Somebody has to go out, maybe two of them. 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: Two of the teams in this group, Australia and Nigeria 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: are those two teams that just beat Team USA a 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: week ago, a couple weeks ago, and then we got 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: Italy in Germany. So, Joe, I know that you are 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: all about Team Nigeria. I know you've already got that 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: Nigeria ticket. So what can you tell us about Nigeria 75 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: and how do we like their chances in this crew? 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: The things that I liked about Nigeria. 77 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: Obviously they kind of made the big headlines by beating 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: Team USA. But you have an established NBA coach, you 79 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 5: have Mike Brown helping to coach this team. When you 80 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 5: really dive into the roster, they've got eight NBA players, 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: So they're deep, they're talented, and they're physical. They can 82 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: really put a lot of pressure on They can play 83 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 5: at an NBA speed, they can play faster, they can 84 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: get rebounds. All of those things kind of matter when 85 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 5: you're playing in this type of setting. This is a 86 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 5: grueling setting, and the roster is a little bit younger, 87 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 5: you can kind of recover faster and you know, really 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 5: step up against this competition. This is a great opportunity 89 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: for them to you know, show out, maybe make some headlines, 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: maybe get some more eyes on them, and maybe earn 91 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: some more playing time in the NBA as well. 92 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think what's interesting about Team Nigeria 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: too is while they do have those eight NBA players, 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 4: you know, they're not the top of the roster players 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: you were talking about like Joshua Koge and you know 96 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: NBA champion Jordan Warra MIEI precious at you Uh, these 97 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: are good players. But what's interesting to me is if 98 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 4: Nigeria does win, if they keep winning, how good could 99 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: this team become? You know, not just this year, but 100 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: we we already have. They just became the first African 101 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: team ever to beat Team USA. But what's interesting to 102 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 4: me is some of the you know, guys with the 103 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: dual nationals who maybe could play for Team Nigeria someday. 104 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: Janasana Koupo being one of them, although he's committed to Greece, 105 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 4: now we've got bam Adebayo on our team who could 106 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: have played for Nigeria if you wanted to, but instead 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: lost to them a couple of weeks ago. Victor Oladipo, 108 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: O Gianaobi Okongu, Isaacacoro, DeAndre Aight and Andre Iguadala. These 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: are all guys who who have eligibility to play for Nigeria. 110 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: So it's interesting to me to see what happened with 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: this team if they do win, if they keep winning 112 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: and draw some more eyes on the team. In Nigeria 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 4: is a massive population and a huge basketball hotbed. 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: Rahim, Who do you like from this group? What team 115 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: stands out to you? 116 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Australia is the queen of 117 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: the crop here. 118 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 6: I think that's the team that you really want to 119 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 6: bet to come out of group. I mean, they have 120 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 6: plenty of NBA players. They got Dante Axum, you know, 121 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 6: you got Patty Mills who might as well be Alan 122 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 6: Evererson in FIBA. You got Joe Angels, Aaron Baines, Josh Green. 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 6: I mean this team dominated like they put their be 124 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 6: they put they they benched their starters before the USA 125 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 6: game and then put their b level guys out there, 126 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 6: and they had Josh Giddy, who's going to be an 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 6: upcoming the NBA draft, and it ay beat Nigeria about 128 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 6: like fifty. 129 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: So this is the team. 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 6: I mean, I think this team is the second best 131 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 6: team overall. You know, they have wings who can you know, 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 6: really switch on both sides of the floor. They could score, 133 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 6: they could score inside, they can hit a three. I 134 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 6: love this team. I think I think they're they're playing 135 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 6: for the silver medal in my opinion. 136 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, what I what I love about Australia is if 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: you don't know who the guys are, you just like 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: see them on the court. They totally look like a 139 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: team that you show up at the why and you're like. 140 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh, all right, we got this game. Look at look 141 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: at that team. We're there. 142 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: We got this like you know, the three of us, 143 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: and just grab a couple more guys and we could 144 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: just like go show up against Team Australia and if 145 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: we didn't know any better, we'd hit the court and 146 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: feel like we got next on this team and then 147 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: they just drop like one hundred on us without even blinking. 148 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: Australia has never won an Olympic medal. They finished fourth 149 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: last time around, and that was their fourth time that 150 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: they have finished fourth, So I think, yeah, I think 151 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: they they need a medal here. This is definitely their 152 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: chance to get there. I kind of like Italy a 153 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: little bit in this group. What I like about some 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: of the FEBA teams are the veteran you know, the 155 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: KG Wiley. They just know how to play, they've played together. 156 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: Danilo Gallinari I think is the best player in the group, 157 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: at least by NBA standards. 158 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: He is the best player. 159 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: International ball can be a little different, but his game 160 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: is suited pretty well for it. Nicole Amelli is a 161 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: pretty good player and get international style fit. 162 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: You know, you guys know how I like to play 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: the long shots. 164 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: I can see Italy as high as six hundred to 165 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: win the group at other books. I don't know what 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: do we think about Italy. I don't think anyone's gonna 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 4: go unbeaten in this group. So can Italy go like 168 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: two and one and maybe eke out a tiebreaker Group one? 169 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? 170 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: It feels like we're all on different sides. 171 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 6: As far as you know, like, because I just really 172 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 6: like Australia and I just think they just have a 173 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 6: great roster. I mean, I like Fibu obviously I'm a 174 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 6: six Ers fan, but I think he's kind of being 175 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 6: unleashed for that team. I just I just think they 176 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 6: have it all. So that's my favorite to come out 177 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 6: of this conference. If I have to make a bet, 178 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 6: that's who I be betting Nigeria to win the group. 179 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: I am. 180 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: I'm sprinkling it a little bit just based on where 181 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 5: I'm seeing the odds. You can get them as low 182 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: as plus two to fifty, but as high as plus 183 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: four fifty. So if you can grab a better number, 184 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 5: I think that that's maybe a bet that you can place. 185 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: I do like them to advance to the knockout stage, 186 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 5: though I think that Australia, Nigeria, and Italy will probably 187 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 5: beat up on Germany a little bit here, so it 188 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 5: does give these teams an opportunity to maybe get the 189 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 5: third team to advance, so especially if they can all 190 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 5: kind of beat each other. So I do think that 191 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,119 Speaker 5: that's maybe the play. 192 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: That I would lean towards. 193 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: More which you can find at about minus two thirty 194 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 5: five depending on the book that. 195 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: You can find it at, which plays out. 196 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Nigeria to make the knockout stage. 197 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting. 198 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 4: Okay, So I like what I thought that you were 199 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: maybe saying, which is, yeah, we're all on three different 200 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: teams here for possibly for the group. None of us 201 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 4: are on Germany, and I think rightfully, so Germany is 202 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: missing Dennis Shrewder, who is normally their star international ball. 203 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: They're missing Daniel Tice, who's a good player. Like the 204 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 4: NBA players on the team are Mo Wagner and Izak Banga. 205 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: So we basically got the Wizards backups. That seems not great. 206 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: So you can play Germany to go out at group 207 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 4: stage at minus one twenty five. 208 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: I kind of like that. 209 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: We we like all three of these other teams in 210 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: this group, and we know that for sure one team 211 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: goes out, maybe a second team. So I feel like 212 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: that might be my safest best play in this group. 213 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: But what do you guys think of that? 214 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 215 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: I liked that play a lot. Actually, I like that 216 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: we can all team up on that one. 217 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 218 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: All right, Well let's let's let's get over to Group 219 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: C and we'll come back to some of our group 220 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: best bets eventually. But so Group C, Group C is 221 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: a little bit a lot of bit top heavy, I think. 222 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: So Spain is at the top of the group, and 223 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: then we've got Slovenia, Luka Doncic's Slovenia and Argentina, and 224 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: then we've got the Olympic host Japan rounding out the 225 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: group as pretty serious long shots. So Spain is the 226 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: favorite here, Rahiem, how do you feel about Spain? Are 227 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: they is the Golden Generation over or does this team 228 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: still have a run left? 229 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: And I'm not that high on Spain. I'm gonna be 230 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: honest with you. 231 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 6: I mean, they have some of the same guys that 232 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 6: they had played from two thousand and eight, Like when 233 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 6: you have Paul Gasol and Mark Gasol out there, and 234 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 6: you know Rudy Fernandez, Like, I mean, what's last time 235 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 6: we seen Rudy Fernandez, like with the Blazers in like 236 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 6: two thousand and six or something like that, when you 237 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 6: know Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Arders were supposed to lead 238 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 6: the Blazers to the to the to the Promised Land. 239 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 6: Like I'm just not that I'm not that high on 240 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 6: this team. I'm gonna be honest. I think they have 241 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 6: enough to win Group C. But as far as you know, 242 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 6: coming away with the goal I don't see it. 243 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: My international emo outside of Team USA is I guess 244 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 4: I sort of lean to the older, experienced Wiley teams. 245 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: I like Spain. 246 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: I like what I know, you know, I know that 247 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: Rubio shows up international play, Sergio Rodriguez and Rudy Fernandez, Like, 248 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 4: we didn't see these guys at their best in the NBA, 249 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: but they they're great for Team Spain. Spain has basically 250 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: been number two in the FEVER rankings the entire cycle 251 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: since the last Olympics. Like Spain is, I can't think 252 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 4: of what this would be in another sport, like like 253 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: USA is just so far and away number one that 254 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: we forget how dominant Spain has been. 255 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: Just if you could take USA away, Spain would be 256 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: on this like. 257 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: Absurd dynasty run from the last decade plus right now. 258 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: But we exist, so we win. 259 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: That's fair, you know. 260 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 6: I think that's an accurate especially when it comes to 261 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 6: actually this region, because I just I'm not really high on. 262 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: Argentina, So yeah, that's fair. 263 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 6: I just think they're so far away from everybody else 264 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 6: that that's what gives him the edge. 265 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: I think that's the perfect way to put it. 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: So obviously, the darling in this group in the World 267 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Cup probably in general is Slovenia. I think we've seen 268 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: a lot of early money coming on Slovenia to win 269 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: the group, Slovenia plus two thousand to win the gold medal, 270 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: and I mean there's a chance that the argument is 271 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: easy Luka Doncic, that's the argument. Maybe they have the 272 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: best player in the game. Maybe they have the best 273 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: player on the court, maybe even against tm USA, depending 274 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: on what Luca does. So, Joe, what do we think 275 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: about Slovenia. Are they set up for a run here? 276 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: Maybe Luca can actually have somebody that really compliments his 277 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 5: play here, you know, and bring somebody back to the map. 278 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: Yes, they got Mike Toby. 279 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 5: He played a little bit of ball at Uva and 280 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 5: he's in Spain. 281 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: He's a big man. He kind of compliments that. 282 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 5: Role for Luca, so that there's some sort of interior 283 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 5: presence there. It just really depends on if Luca's gonna 284 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 5: get hot, then sure they could get through here. I 285 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: don't think that there's gonna be great guard play in 286 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: terms of maybe the defense that can be put against Luca, 287 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 5: depending on whether it's Spain or Argentina or obviously Japan, 288 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 5: but I don't see that from you know, if Argentina's 289 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: playing defense, I don't think that Camposo is gonna cover 290 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: Luca properly, or you know, even Luca Vildoza. So if 291 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: you're looking at this, it's just gonna be the Luca show. 292 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 5: And if, like we saw, Luca just carry them all 293 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 5: the way through the qualifiers, I don't think it's off 294 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 5: the table for them to advance here at all, especially 295 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: since we're not super high on Argentina and Spain is 296 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: getting older. So there's no real reason that Luca can't 297 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: lead this team past the past them. I mean, we've 298 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: seen him basically be a one man show in the NBA. 299 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: Granted the supporting cast is different, but so it is 300 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 5: for all of these teams. 301 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I I wanted to pick Slovenia as my big sleeper, 302 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: you know, my long shot to hang my hat on. 303 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: Here's the problem, like a crazy person. I actually watched 304 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: EuroBasket in summer twenty seventeen when Slovenia won the gold medal. 305 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: There, and it was a huge deal. 306 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: Luca was not in the NBA yet, and when we 307 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: got to the NBA draft cycle and people were like, oh, 308 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's good enough, we'll see. I 309 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: was like, yo, you should have watched euro Basket. He 310 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: was lighting up all these teams, but he wasn't doing 311 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: it alone. He was doing it with Goran Dragic, who 312 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: was also awesome in that tournament. And Goreon Dragic is 313 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: not playing at this tournament. Zoran Dragic is playing at 314 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: this tournament. That's Goron's brother. But I worry about Luca 315 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: only being able to do so much, like at what 316 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: point do they become the Mavericks again? And there's just 317 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: not enough for him to do and they're not going 318 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: to run into the Clippers by any stretch necessarily. 319 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: But I just there was such good. 320 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: Synergy with Goron and Luca together and I don't know, 321 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: it's it's a lot to ask of him on his own. 322 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: I think they can make a run, But my instinct 323 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: is I feel like I'll be surprised if they actually 324 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: pull off a medal in this tournament, Like I think 325 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: it may be as a cycle too early for them. 326 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: Do you guys think that Slovenia can medal here? 327 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 5: Probably not, I mean, he I don't, I don't really 328 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 5: think so. 329 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. 330 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: I don't. 331 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: I don't think they medal. 332 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: So Japan obviously is the long shot in this group. 333 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: Japan is the longest shot in the whole tournament. I 334 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: think they are number forty two in the FEBA rankings. 335 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: I remember we got twelve teams here, so Rhachi Mura 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: and he's he's the star here, we got Nick Physikas 337 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: Nevada shout. Can Japan win a game? Can can Japan 338 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: win one game off of anyone in this group? 339 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: Yes? They can. I think they could be Argentina. Oh wow, No, 340 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: actually not they probably. I'm just I'm not Argentina at all. 341 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 6: I just I mean, you know, athletically, I just I 342 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 6: just think they're going to struggle against you know, some 343 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 6: of the great teams like that. 344 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: That game against Nigeria was like really really tough for me. 345 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a gap. It was a real gap 346 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: in athleticism. 347 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 4: And as much as I like the older Wiley teams, 348 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: which you don't get any older and more wily than 349 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: forty one year old Luis Scola and Faku Compazo, I'm 350 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: excited as a Timberwolves fanly side to watch Leandro Bolmaro. 351 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a really good player. 352 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: He hasn't come over to the NBA yet, but Wolves 353 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: on his draft rights. But Argentina is number four in 354 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 4: the Fever rankings, So I just I feel like it 355 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: seems like we're under selling them. But yeah, none of 356 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 4: us feel great about this team, and it feels especially 357 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: it seems like they're a team that could run into 358 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: the wrong matchup in a knockout game, you know, with 359 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: with the team that's just younger and more athletic, and 360 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: that's just the end for an old team like this. 361 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Joe, do you agree with Argentina? 362 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that the one thing that they do 363 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: have is they do have a lot of I think 364 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see pretty good fundamental basketball, But 365 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 5: it's just gonna be a matter of like how athletic 366 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 5: are they, Like how can they really match up against 367 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 5: some of these bigger, stronger, faster teams. 368 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: And I'm personally. 369 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: Excited to watch them because they have Luca Vildoza, who 370 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 5: just signed the Knicks. 371 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: He can really score at every level. 372 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: He just led his Spanish team to a title one 373 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: finals MVP with them, so he's somebody that can create 374 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: his own shot. 375 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: He's got a good handle. 376 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 5: He shoots about thirty nine percent from three in the EuroLeague, 377 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be interesting. 378 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: I think we might see some good ball moving. 379 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 5: From Argentina, but I don't know to what extent that 380 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 5: can really stack up against some of these better, more 381 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: established teams like you know, even Spain, or like the 382 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 5: United States or teams like that. 383 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: So raheem, you don't really like Spain a whole lot. 384 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: What what's your play from this group? 385 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: Then? 386 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: Do you feel like another team comes out of the 387 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 4: group or do you have a best bat from this group? 388 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 6: I think I think you kind of summed it up 389 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 6: when we first conversation about you know, them being so 390 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 6: far ahead of everybody else. 391 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: I think you kind of got it wrong with Spain. 392 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: I think that's the play. 393 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Joe, what's your play from this group? 394 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: I think that's I agree. I think that Spain comes 395 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: out on top. I do think that you could. 396 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: Maybe sprinkle a little bit if you think that Argentina 397 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 5: and Spain both continue to win, which I know we're 398 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: kind of fading Argentina a little bit, but if they 399 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: beat Slavinia, Slavinia is. 400 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: Eight to one to get knocked out. 401 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 5: In the group stage, so that I think, like, I 402 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 5: feel like the line is big because of Luca and 403 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 5: they're a popular team. 404 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: People want to bet on them. But you already are 405 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: kind of penciling in. 406 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: Spain and Argentina's two of the best teams in the world. Here, 407 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: I don't think it's crazy for them to get knocked 408 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 5: out in the group stage. 409 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 410 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 4: I've seen that one as high as ten to one 411 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: at some books too. And let's let's stay at the 412 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 4: obvious too. If Luca picks up a little injury, like 413 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: it's going to be ugly, they're just done at that point. Yeah, 414 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: I think that they are even underdogs to Japan if 415 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: it happens before that. And we know that Luca already 416 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 4: struggled through some injuries in the playoffs and that he's 417 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 4: going to be cautious that way. So I do think 418 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: that there's some potential there. My best bet from this group, 419 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 4: I think, also involves fading Slovenia in there. They open 420 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: against Argentina, and Slovenia has never played the Olympics before. 421 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: We know Luca will be by far the best player 422 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: on the court. 423 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: But I like Argentina to win that game, just with 424 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: the veteran experience and just being ready for the moment 425 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: and for the Olympics. They're plus one ninety on the 426 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: money line right now, and you know, Luca is by 427 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: far the best player there. But I just feel like 428 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 4: Argentina's experience could be a big advantage in an opening 429 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: Olympic game like that. And that kind of plays with 430 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: that same thing where if Slovenia loses to Argentina and 431 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: then to Spain, they're in trouble. They're not necessarily out, 432 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: but they're not in good shape at that point. All right, Well, 433 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: let's let's head over to Group A and let's get 434 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: to team so Team USA now featuring olympians Javail McGhee 435 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: and Keldon Johnson. 436 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: What are we doing? And is the sky falling? 437 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 4: Is Team USA gonna go oh and three and get 438 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: swept out of the group stage? Somebody had talked me 439 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: off the ledge, Joe, how bad or how good is 440 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 4: Team USA gonna be? 441 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: I still think that this team is going to be 442 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: really good. 443 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 5: I get that there's continuity issues, I get that there's 444 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 5: been COVID issues. I get that we don't really have 445 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 5: a lot of big men on this team, and there's 446 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: really not a lot of defense. 447 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: But I think that the. 448 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 5: Talent here is so strong and you are going to 449 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: get a little bit of a boost when you get 450 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 5: through Holliday back over there, Devin Booker over there, Chris 451 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: Middleton over there. I think that that matters they You're 452 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 5: gonna get some more defense, You're gona get a little 453 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: bit more shot making, and you're also getting three guys 454 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: that can facilitate the basketball. I know that Booker, we 455 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 5: criticized him a little bit in the finals because he 456 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 5: wasn't passing the ball as much, But these are three 457 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 5: excellent passers between Holiday, Booker, and Middleton, and I think 458 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 5: that that might help open up this US offense. So 459 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 5: maybe they struggle a little bit in Group A like, 460 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 5: but I don't see any circumstance where they don't advance 461 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 5: out of the group stage with the Czech Republican Iran 462 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: as the two other teams besides France, So that that's 463 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 5: kind of where I'm at with Team USA. 464 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: Though, Are him on anything about tam Usay's chances. 465 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: I think USA is going to win the gold medal. 466 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 6: I think what are they like almost like three minus 467 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 6: three fifty to me when I watched those exhibitions, they 468 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: struggle with the feeble rules and the physicality and you know, 469 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 6: just getting into shape. Like I think those are the 470 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: biggest issues that I saw, because you know, even in 471 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 6: the game that they lost against Australia, they had a 472 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 6: non point lead at. 473 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: Halftime before running out of gas in the second half. 474 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: The addition of Calton John and it's actually a great 475 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 6: addition because they have a guy who's gonna be able 476 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 6: to do the dirty work. Like if you watch that 477 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 6: I think it was the last game that they played. 478 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: He was a big impact. 479 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 6: Like he was probably one of the reasons that they 480 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 6: actually won that game. And I felt like, you know, 481 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 6: a lot of their roster was pretty redundant, and then 482 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 6: you had guys like Kevin Love, who I mean, he 483 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 6: really hasn't played much NBA basketball in the last couple 484 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 6: of seasons, you know, due to injuries. He just was 485 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: over there just because he had previous Olympics experience. I 486 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 6: think once they get Drew Holliday, Devin Booker, and Chris Middleton, 487 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 6: this team's gonna be a lot better. 488 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: I like the addition of Javelle McGee because it gives 489 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: them another big. So I really like this team. 490 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 6: I just think part of it was just getting getting 491 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 6: used to the rules, and I think they'll be fine. 492 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: So I think that my concern and concern we'll use 493 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: the word concern lately here. Let's be honest. We have 494 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: a lot of talent. Tim Usa absolutely should win gold. 495 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 4: We have Kevin Durant, who is probably the best player 496 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 4: in the world. Or Giannis can at least have a conversation, 497 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: but he certainly should be the best player at the Olympics. 498 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 4: We have Damian Lillard. Whoever any other team second best 499 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: player is. Damian Lillard is miles and infinite chasms better 500 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: than whoever other second best players are just Dame and 501 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: Durant alone should be enough. 502 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: They probably will be enough. 503 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 4: A concern that I have with the team is I 504 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: feel like we just have the wrong big men on 505 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 4: this team. We have great NBA big men Bam Auto 506 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 4: Bio and Draymond Green. I want as my NBA center, 507 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: I want as my final center. I want them switching, 508 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: I want them screening, I want them handling a little bit. 509 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: In international play. You want a big dude. 510 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 4: Who's gonna protect the rim, protect that you know, the 511 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 4: expanded paint. You need somebody to defend against. Yes, Rudy Gobert, 512 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: you need somebody to go up against, you know, the 513 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: gasols and JaVale McGee get out of here. Like I 514 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: can't even talk about JaVale McGee on the Olympics team. 515 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: But I just I feel like the centers could be 516 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: a problem. And when Team USA has struggled a little 517 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: bit in the past, it's been with the big men. 518 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: And so let me ask this when we do our 519 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: Olympic wrap up pod if it exists, you know, a 520 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: month from now, and Team USA did not win the gold, 521 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: tell me who Team USA lost to and knockout play 522 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: and give me the diagnosis. What happened to Team USA? 523 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: Why did we lose? Joe, who did we lose to? 524 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 5: I think that we will have lost to Spain, and 525 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 5: I think a lot of it would have to do 526 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 5: with fundamentals. And I think that it's going to be 527 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: because Spain they have a ton of continuity, They have 528 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: a lot of experience, and they have a lot of 529 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 5: experience playing in international play, and I think. 530 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: That that is what the difference could be. 531 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 5: It's not necessarily that they're individually better or anything like that. 532 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: Or even that they're coached better, but just that they 533 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: have they have depth, they have experience, and they have 534 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 5: playmaking bigs and the Gasol brothers that can kind of 535 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 5: put stress on. 536 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: The US team. 537 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 5: Like you said, who doesn't have really they have good bigs, 538 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 5: but they don't have, you know, a set of twin 539 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 5: towers like the Gasol brothers over there. So I do 540 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 5: think that that's probably who they would lose to if 541 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: they did lose to a team in this tournament. 542 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: Rahiem team USA lost. How did it happen? Who did 543 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: we lose to? And what went wrong? 544 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 6: Okay, they lost because so much of this team is 545 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 6: their offense is based on three point shooting. They're not 546 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 6: a team that's just gonna beat you up inside and 547 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: you know, get to the paint like some of these 548 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 6: other teams. So you saw in the games that they 549 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 6: were struggling in they couldn't hit the three. So I think, 550 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 6: like Joe said, I think it would be you know, 551 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 6: a team with you know, fundamentals who will go in 552 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 6: there and you know, I just think beat them, beat 553 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 6: them up inside, and I think France and Australia can 554 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 6: do it. 555 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, those are the three teams that I 556 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: that I would be most concerned about a matchup. I 557 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: think you're either looking at a size problem, which France 558 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 4: with Rudy Gobert or Spain with the Cassols, or you're 559 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: looking at just that that veteran international know how problem, 560 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 4: and all three of those teams fit that too, so 561 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: I think Spain is the biggest threat. If I was 562 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: going to play Team USA to win the gold, I 563 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: think my recommendation would be to wait till after the 564 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 4: France game. I won't be shocked if we lose that 565 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 4: France game. That's not the end of the world. You 566 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 4: can lose a group game and still go on and 567 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 4: the odds will drop even further if that happens. If 568 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: USA beats France, I'm not sure the odds really get 569 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: much longer, so you don't have much to gain. I 570 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 4: think by getting your money in now, I think we said, 571 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: what three fifty minus three fifty for Team USA? Is 572 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 4: that worth their money to bet on Team USA? Do 573 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: Team USA listeners want to get that bet in? 574 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: It's still steep to kind of lay your money. 575 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 5: I get that that's what we think is going to happen, 576 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 5: But I agree with you, I don't. I don't see 577 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: any reason to tie your money up with that now 578 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: when you know there could be a variety of issues, 579 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 5: like Team USA has had a million COVID issues, even 580 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 5: so I would want to see this torn to progress 581 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 5: a little bit. Like you said, get past the France game, 582 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 5: see where we're at. I don't think that that line 583 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 5: really changes after the group stage. If anything, maybe it moves, 584 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 5: maybe it moves a couple cents, but I don't see 585 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 5: what's going to be so different, you know, before than after, 586 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 5: at least in terms of Team USA. 587 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 6: That line is coming down against France. I believe it 588 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 6: was like fourteen and a half now it's down to 589 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 6: about eleven and a half at bet MGM now, so 590 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 6: there is some sharp money on France for that first game. 591 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: So that kind of you know, lets you know of 592 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 6: the perception out there in the market as far as USA. 593 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 6: But I do think you know, a minus three p 594 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 6: fifty it denotes that United States should win this seventy 595 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 6: seven percent of the time, and I probably think that 596 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 6: they win this, you know, more than seventy seven percent 597 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 6: of the time. So yeah, I do think there's a 598 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 6: small edge there. But you know, do you like you, 599 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 6: Like Joe said, with all the COVID issues and you know, 600 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 6: the turmoil regarding this roster, I'm not sure if you 601 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 6: want to lay your money on that. 602 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: That opening game against France that's coming Sunday morning at 603 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 4: seven Eastern here. So as we're recording this, Drew Holiday 604 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: and Chris Middleton I think, are partying in a parade 605 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: right now, right they're they're celebrating. There's still like half 606 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: tipsy on Champagne. Japan is on the other side of 607 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: the world, and that's a long ways away and a 608 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: quick turnaround. I it's not shocking me that we could 609 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: be vulnerable against France. France is a good team. Gobert 610 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: is awesome, especially in international ball. I don't know how 611 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: much we're gonna get from Holiday or Middleton, even from 612 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: Booker in that series. I don't know if zach Lavine 613 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: is gonna be ready to play. He's out of COVID protocol, 614 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: but we don't know what's happening with that. 615 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: What's going on with Jeremy Grant. Is he on protocols 616 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 3: as well? 617 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard about you. 618 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, we don't know necessarily, like we could 619 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: have a very short roster in that game, and we 620 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: can't bring in backups either. 621 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: We've just got our twelve guys. 622 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 4: So my play if you want to, if you want 623 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 4: to possibly bet against Team USA, France is plus four 624 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: fifty on the money line in that game. I wouldn't 625 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: take that, but France is plus seven hundred to win 626 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: the group if France does beat Team USA. Look the 627 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 4: other part of this group. We haven't talked about Czech 628 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: Republic or about Iran yet for a reason. Iran doesn't 629 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: have any NBA players. Czech Republic has toamas Sataranski. They're 630 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: a good team. But France, France would have to lose 631 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: both of those games after beating Team USA to not 632 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: win the group because. 633 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: The group had headhead is the first tiebreaker. 634 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 4: So I think if you if you are doubting Team 635 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: USA a little bit, if you like France plus seven 636 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: hundred to win the group, that's you know, basically you're 637 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: getting a plus seven hundred money line on that first game. 638 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: And we just saw Team Usay, this Team USA play 639 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: four games, lose two of them, and and you know 640 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: the other team was in it for a couple of them. 641 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: So I think that I like that play, and I 642 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: don't even feel too on American because Team USA can 643 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: still win the next two games and go on and 644 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: win the gold medal even with that opening loss. What 645 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 4: do you guys think about the plus seven hundred for France. 646 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: I think that's a really smart angle to take, especially 647 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 5: on this group given the other two teams. 648 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a great angle. 649 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 6: I like it, but I think the angle is to play. 650 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 6: I would rather play it game by game. I want 651 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 6: to catch the United States early slipping. I want to 652 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 6: catch them in the first half. I want to catch 653 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 6: them full game early against France. 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Here 692 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 4: I was. I was ready to jump off the ledge. 693 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: I was ready to like fade USA for me even 694 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: winning a medal or something with some of these guys 695 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: on our roster. Just so it's clear, Team USA has 696 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: never not won a medal at the Olympics, even pre 697 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: professional era. US has as a whole bunch of golds 698 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 4: and a couple of bronzes and one silver. So tm 699 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: USA is probably going to come through. So here's what 700 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 4: I want to know, guys. It's the gold medal game. 701 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: It sounds like we think that they're probably playing Spain 702 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 4: or Australia, so it's a close game. There's five minutes 703 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: on the clock. I want to know your closing Team 704 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: USA lineup. Who are your five guys with with the 705 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 4: gold medal on the line when it matters most, So raheem, 706 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 4: give me your five guys in the closing lineup. 707 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. 708 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 6: This is really, really, really really tough. I think the 709 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 6: toughest one is that it's the big So I'm I'm 710 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 6: gonna go with Kevin Durant, Draymond Green, Jason Tatum. That's three, 711 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 6: Chris Middleton, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say Dane. I'm 712 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 6: reluctantly saying Dane because there's a part of me that 713 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 6: want to say there, wants to say Drew because I 714 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 6: think an international basketb his defense. 715 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 3: Will be a little bit more valuable. 716 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 6: But you know, the shot making from Dame, that's just 717 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 6: you kind of need that there. And you know, I 718 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 6: think back to twenty and sixteen, the way they put 719 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 6: that roster together. Kyrie started, but Kyle Lowry came off 720 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 6: the bench with Jimmy Butler and Paul George and they 721 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 6: had that defensive lineup in the second quarter that lock 722 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 6: you down. But when they needed to score and they 723 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 6: had Kyrie starting, So I think that's that's where I'm heading. 724 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 6: I think the struggles I'm having with this roster is 725 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 6: which big do you put out there? I just think Dame. 726 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 6: I think Draymond gives you a certain playmaking ability and 727 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 6: I don't really want Jabelle out there in crunch time. 728 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 6: I like BAM, but I just think Draymond just gives 729 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 6: you a little bit more playmaking. 730 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 3: He's a little bit more intense. 731 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 6: And I just want that experience out there, So I'm 732 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 6: run with him. 733 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: All right, Joe, did you pick your lineup? Is that 734 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 4: your five? 735 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: Not exactly? 736 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 5: And maybe call it recency bias, but I think somebody's 737 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 5: got to play a little bit of defense, so I agree. 738 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 5: I really like Drew Holliday. I think that he needs 739 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 5: to be in the closing lineup. But I'm also going 740 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 5: with Chris Middleton as well. I think that he showed 741 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: he can make he makes he makes the right passes. 742 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 5: He also knows like when he's tired, he can, you know, 743 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 5: play that particular way, and he can make the you 744 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 5: can make big shots too, So I like Holiday and 745 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 5: Middleton there, and then I'm going with BAM because I 746 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 5: think that you need a little bit of a little 747 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 5: bit more height with this particular lineup, and I'm gonna 748 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 5: go with Obviously, you need Kevin Durant on the floor 749 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 5: at the end of the game. 750 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: He has to be on the floor. 751 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 5: And I agree, like, I don't know how you get 752 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 5: around have it not having Damian Lillard on the court 753 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 5: when all he does is just rain threes and just 754 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 5: seems to hit clutch clutch shots. So I felt like 755 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 5: I had to go with Durant and Dame so in 756 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 5: terms of looking for size and length and you know, defense, 757 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 5: That's what kind of led me to Bam Middleton and 758 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 5: Holiday as the other three guys. 759 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 4: So I'm with you guys on Drew Holiday. That was 760 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 4: gonna be my My bold prediction is I think Drew 761 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 4: Holiday starts at the two in the gold medal game. 762 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: I think we start Damian Lillard and Drew Holliday. Maybe 763 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 4: not because then there's not a backup point guard. And 764 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: you know, we've got Booker and Levine those are kind 765 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 4: of the obvious twos. But we've got Booker and Levine, 766 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: and I want Drew Halliday's defense out there. We clearly 767 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: that's what was missing, was that point of attack defense, 768 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: And like slowing down, you know, especially we're seeing like 769 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: Patty Mills. Patty Mills is lighting up and he ain't 770 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 4: gonna be doing that. If Drew Holiday is out there, 771 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 4: you know, shut him down a little bit. So I'm 772 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 4: close with you guys. Here's here's my difference, and this 773 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 4: is what I think. This is why I still feel 774 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: good about Team USA. If the if the chips are down, 775 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 4: I'm not playing Bam out of Bio at center, and 776 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 4: I'm not playing Draymond either. I'm playing Durant as my 777 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 4: international center. I'm playing Dame and Drew, and I'm playing 778 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 4: Middleton and Tatum. So Middleton and Tatum are on the wings, 779 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: Durant's my center. You can't do it for very long. 780 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 4: But there's no way you're stopping that team from scoring 781 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 4: because now we have five shooters. That's why the international bigs, 782 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: that's why our guys aren't the right picks. The fact 783 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 4: that we can't pick Bam or Draymond or Javail that's 784 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: the problem. That's why I don't like them for this 785 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 4: roster because when you really need a bucket, you need 786 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: to be able to space things out and when if 787 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: it's go bear or if it's you know, Aaron Baines 788 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: or one of the gasls. You need to be able 789 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 4: to space them out on the defense open everything up. 790 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 4: So I want Durant at center in the closing lineup, 791 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 4: and he can do just enough defense, he can bat 792 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 4: the ball off the ram. He's he's been here before 793 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 4: for the moment. So that's my that's my lineup, Dame, Drew, Middleton, 794 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 4: Tatum and Durant. And give me those five guys. I 795 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: don't see any way any team in the world is 796 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 4: stopping those five. All right, So let's let's zoom out. 797 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 4: Let's take a look at a few futures here. So 798 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: I want to us you to just do our our 799 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 4: two favorite futures picks. So, Joe, what's your favorite futures 800 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 4: play on the board here? 801 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 5: I'm bringing it back to France, and I really like 802 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 5: France to medal at plus one seventy five. You know, 803 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 5: they have a lot of NBA talent. But the thing 804 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 5: that I like about them is that I definitely think 805 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 5: that they're going to advance. I think they're going to 806 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 5: be a top two team obviously in Group A with 807 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 5: the United States. So with that, I think the way 808 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 5: that the seating works and brand correct me I from wrong. 809 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 5: But the way the seating works that they can't really 810 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 5: play Team USA until the final four or so. 811 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of messy. 812 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 4: It's it's basically the groups determine who goes through, but 813 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 4: as far as they can tell, then they they recede. 814 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 4: Like the top four seed are protected and then the 815 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 4: bottom four are their own. So it kind of depends 816 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 4: on which like where second place. You know, if France 817 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 4: wins the group, then I think they'd be safe, but 818 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 4: if they don't win the group of their second then 819 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. So I think it's unlikely that they 820 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 4: would play Team USA till late. It's a little bit open. 821 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I just think that it's given that it's unlikely. 822 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 5: At plus one seventy five to medal, I think that 823 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 5: there's decent odds here. You have the talent clearly so, 824 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 5: and they're really just behind Australia and Spain outside of 825 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 5: the United States. So I like that you're getting a 826 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 5: little bit more plus money there. So I like the 827 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: plus one seventy five on France to medal. 828 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 4: That's that's interesting to me because one of my picks 829 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 4: I was at least considering, and I'm now more hesitant 830 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 4: after that. Is France to be eliminated in the first 831 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 4: knockout game, which is at plus one point fifteen kind 832 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 4: of under the same logic, we're really only off by 833 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 4: one game there, which is I think France definitely makes 834 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 4: knockout play for me. I think I'm just a little 835 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 4: bit lower on France than you like. I think that 836 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 4: they are a definite tier behind Australia and Spain, even 837 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 4: you know, i'd put them closer in a group with 838 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 4: like Italy, which is another bet I'd consider for Italy 839 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: the same thing to make knockout and then lose right away, 840 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 4: also up at plus one hundred for them. So, but 841 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 4: you're right, I think France easily could beat one of 842 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 4: those teams. I don't think there's good but they could 843 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 4: beat Spain, they could beat Australia, and it's a good 844 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 4: point about their path too, So I may not play 845 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 4: that one now, but I don't think I can quite 846 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 4: get there. 847 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: To medal. 848 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 4: Also is gonna definitely mean beating at least one of 849 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 4: Spain or Australia and maybe both of them, and I 850 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 4: feel like I might just rather wait and play the 851 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 4: games than play the metal at that point. But it's interesting, 852 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 4: all right, raheem, what's your top futures play. 853 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with. 854 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 6: Argentina to get knocked out in a quarterfinal minus once in. 855 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm not high on his team. 856 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 6: I think they advanced past the group stage, but I 857 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 6: think in a quarter fighter to get knocked out. So 858 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 6: I think we spoke about it earlier about how you 859 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 6: know you're going to struggle athletically. I think this is 860 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 6: the year where they just they don't have enough. 861 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense to me, kind of the same 862 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 4: thing we're just saying with France and Italy, Like if 863 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 4: you think Argentina is kind of that next tier down, 864 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 4: they're definitely too good, I think to not make knockout play. 865 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 4: But then if they just don't have it, you know, 866 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 4: unless unless they get a really good matchup, you know. 867 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 4: They we haven't said Nigeria either. They might play in 868 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 4: Nigeria which just trounce them. They might play a better 869 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 4: team in Spain or Australia. So yeah, I think that 870 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 4: sets up well too. So my I think my favorite play, 871 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 4: or at least one of my two favorite plays similar 872 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 4: to Joe's, but a different team. I'm going with Australia 873 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 4: to medal, which is at plus one ten, and I 874 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 4: just think Australia I don't feel good about necessarily backing 875 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 4: them all the way. The gold medal game depends on 876 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 4: the bracket a little bit. I don't feel great about 877 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 4: them winning the gold. Remember this team has never medaled 878 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 4: ever before. That's the goal. The goal is this team 879 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 4: wants to win a medal. They want to win gold, 880 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 4: but they have to win a medal. This team is good. 881 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 4: The pool is a little bit more open than usual. 882 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 4: They got a lot of veterans. They've been fourth place 883 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 4: last tournament, they're a fourth place at the World Cup. 884 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 4: In between, they keep coming up just short and getting 885 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 4: right there, and I feel like I think I can 886 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 4: see a bronze for them. But basically I think Australia 887 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 4: makes the Semis and if they do, you basically have 888 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 4: two chances to. 889 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: Win one game. 890 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 4: They can either win the first game and now you're 891 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 4: guaranteed at least a silver, or you lose and you've 892 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 4: got a chance to win that bronze. 893 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: And they gotta get this one. 894 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 4: So at plus one ten, I like Australia for that 895 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 4: all right, Joe, what's your other pick? 896 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 5: So we kind of mentioned I'm kind of high on Nigeria. 897 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 5: I know that they're in the same bracket as Australia, 898 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 5: but I think that if you can get that plus 899 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 5: four fifty number, I I like a little sprinkle on 900 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 5: them to win Group B. 901 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: I understand that it's. 902 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 5: A tough it's a tough number, it's a tough ask, 903 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 5: but I think that with their athleticism and the coaching, 904 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,439 Speaker 5: I think that they can get through this. You can't 905 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 5: forget that Australia doesn't have Ben Simmons, so he's you know, 906 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 5: one of their best players on the team and he's 907 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 5: not playing in these Olympics. So I think that Nigeria 908 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 5: can pull off this upset. I get that this is 909 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 5: a tough ask, but I think that even with the 910 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 5: other teams, you know, with Italy there, Italy is also 911 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 5: a decent team. Italy could even beat Australia maybe and 912 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 5: give Nigeria a different way into winning the bracket, winning 913 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 5: the group. So I think that there's a little bit 914 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 5: of an opportunity here, and if you can get that 915 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 5: better number, I like Nigeria the win Group B at 916 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 5: plus four fifty. 917 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 2: I get that it's juicy. 918 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 5: I get that it's a little it's a little bit 919 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 5: out of the question, but but I like to play 920 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 5: Team Nigeria. 921 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 4: Reminder, by the way, we'll be covering a lot of 922 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 4: these games and you can follow our picks at Action Network, 923 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 4: so make sure to check out the articles and our 924 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 4: game previews and bets and everything there. Joe is all 925 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 4: in on Nigeria, so we'll get to see how that 926 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 4: plays out. All right, Rahiem, what's your last pick? 927 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Australia to be runner up plus 928 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 6: two twenty. I told you, guys, I love this team. 929 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 6: I don't see them beat in the United States. I 930 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 6: guess if you want to take a if you want 931 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 6: to take a flyer on them to win the whole 932 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 6: thing and then maybe put yourself in a position, but 933 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 6: you're not going to really be in a position to 934 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 6: head because the United State is going to be a favorite. 935 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 6: So I was just like, I'm going to go with 936 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 6: the plus two twenty. 937 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 3: To be runner up. 938 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 6: I think they they get all the way to the 939 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 6: gold medal game. I just I think they're the strongest team, 940 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 6: strongest non US team, and you know, I was really 941 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 6: impressed by the way they beat Nigeria. You know, they 942 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 6: sat there, guys, and they still went out there and dominated. 943 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 6: I think, I just I just think they have so 944 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 6: much so I'm rolling with them. 945 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: I like it. 946 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 4: Australia definitely is good. They're gonna be a tough out. 947 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 4: I am going with the other top team in this 948 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 4: group or in in the Olympics, outside of Team USA. 949 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 4: And it would not be an official Action Network podcast 950 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 4: if I didn't have at least one absolutely outlandish long 951 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 4: shot bet. So here it is, gentlemen, I am taking 952 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 4: Spain plus one thousand to win the gold medal. Here's 953 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 4: why Spain beat Australia at both of the last two Olympics. 954 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 4: So Spain has Australia's number. Australia is the younger, hungrier team, 955 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 4: but Spain has that that wily veteran thing. When the 956 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 4: minutes really matter, Mark and Power are going to be 957 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 4: out there doing their thing together. I don't know, We're 958 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 4: gonna see a lot of those guys, especially Powell, but 959 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 4: they're gonna save it for when they have to, and 960 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 4: I like them in that matchup, but it gets there. 961 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 4: I just think if somebody is going to beat Team USA. 962 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 4: I think Spain is the team to do it. They've 963 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 4: got the veterans, they've got the while, they've been here before, 964 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 4: they've matched up against Team USA. It's it's the sort 965 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 4: of team that can keep it close and then you 966 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 4: see what happens. I still like usay in the matchup. 967 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: There's obviously like a huge athleticism advantage there. I'm not 968 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 4: saying Spain should beat Team USA as usual with the 969 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 4: plus one thousand. 970 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: It's not a should. It's okay, you know. 971 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 4: Raheema said, the implid odds are like seventy seven percent 972 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 4: TEAMUSA to win gold, and I think we're agreeing that 973 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 4: the odds. 974 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: Should be higher than that. 975 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 4: Well, plus one thousand is implied like nine percent for Spain. 976 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 4: So basically, I think if somebody would beat Team USA, 977 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 4: Spain is the team to do it. I think if 978 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 4: Spain does beat Team USA, they win the gold. They've 979 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 4: never gotten that gold medal yet. It's the one thing 980 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 4: that has has not been reached by this generation and 981 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 4: it's very definitely their last chance for the end of 982 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 4: this You can't be a goal in generation if there's 983 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 4: no gold. 984 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: So they need the gold. I think USA is going 985 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: to win, but you know, plus one thousand, I gotta 986 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: have my long shot in there. 987 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 6: We're all really really high on what Drew Holly means 988 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 6: to this team. I saw on Twitter the other day somebody said, 989 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 6: what would the GAT be between those two players if 990 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 6: you know, we played the NBA under fever rules. I 991 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 6: don't think it's very high. And I just think Drew 992 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 6: Holly is going to add so much to this team defensively, 993 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 6: and you know, getting Chris Middleton in there, I just 994 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,479 Speaker 6: I think all of those scares that we had about 995 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 6: the United States, I think they were a little bit premature, 996 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 6: just as you know this team. I think one of 997 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 6: the things people forget is the rest of these teams 998 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 6: have played together for years like this United States team. 999 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 6: You know, they're really throwing it together on the fly, 1000 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 6: and we're already seeing improvement game the game. So I 1001 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 6: think overall, the United States should should get it done. 1002 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 6: And you know we all can be wearing American. 1003 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 3: Flags, and. 1004 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I trust the American team the longer the tournament 1005 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 4: goes here. And I think it's for that same reason. 1006 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 4: Once we get Drew Holliday and even Middleton over there, 1007 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 4: USA one of our big advantages we've always had is 1008 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 4: just on the wing. You know, as much as the 1009 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 4: game is advancing internationally, those athletic wings, that's still an 1010 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 4: American dominant space. So getting Middleton to be able to 1011 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 4: be in there, and yeah, just getting Holiday doing all 1012 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 4: those little things. 1013 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: My brain is screaming a recency bias at me. 1014 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 4: We just watched it all happen, but we know why 1015 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 4: they were so good. So get Drew and get Chris 1016 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 4: over to Japan. Keep them safe, put them in bubble wrap, 1017 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 4: get them on the plane. Give Devin Booker some headphones 1018 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 4: and let him like sit way in the back away 1019 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 4: from those guys, because that poor dude on a long 1020 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 4: flight to Japan. But yeah, I think, I think could 1021 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 4: be a rocky start. But group play doesn't matter so much. 1022 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 4: Everyone take a deep breath. Let's see what Team USA 1023 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 4: can do. Let's see if they can get through to 1024 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 4: the end. All right, Well that is going to wrap 1025 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 4: it up for our Olympic Men's hoops preview at Action Network. 1026 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: Reminder that we've got several. 1027 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 4: New podcasts debuting this August from Action Network, including one 1028 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 4: just for NBA betting. So to hear myself for him, 1029 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 4: Matt Moore, the whole crew from our NBA team this offseason. 1030 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 4: Next season, make sure to subscribe to that new podcast 1031 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 4: feed which doesn't exist yet, but we will announce here 1032 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 4: on Action Network Podcast. Make sure to get you a 1033 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 4: link for that, so stay tuned for that. 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We 1043 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 4: got a day off, and we're off and running again. 1044 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 4: Of course, stay tuned for NFL Fantasy College Football, a 1045 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 4: lot of podcast episodes to come. NFL kickoff forty nine 1046 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 4: days away, But who's counting for Raheem and Joe. I'm 1047 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 4: Brandon Anderson and we'll catch you next time on the 1048 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 4: Action Network Podcast