1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: H Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Casual Chaos. This week, I have a very exciting guest 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: from the South, Sally Person. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Casual, Thanks for having me. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: How are you here? 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm good? 7 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: How are you fun? Presta? 8 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a great day. That's awesome. Yeah. 9 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: So you really have been on so many different reality 10 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: TV shows, going from The Bachelor to Bachelor and Paradise 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: to Southern Hospitality and now Southern Charm. Did you always 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: aspire to be on TV or did these things kind 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: of fall into your lap? I? 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never imagined myself on TV. Ever, they definitely 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: fell into my lap. And it started with, you know, 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: a broken engagement, and then The Bachelor caught hold of 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: my story and what happened, so they rushed the interview 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: process and I found myself on The Bachelor, regretted it, 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: left found myself on Bachelor Paradise because they asked me 20 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: to come back and I was seeing when I was 21 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: like why not? Yeah? And then Toxic Environment, so I 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: removed myself from there too. And then SOHO was just 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: random because me and Joe Bradley met like super randomly 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: at a bar. He was like, hey, you're cute, and 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: I was like thanks, and then I didn't even know 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: he was on a TV show. Yeah, and I had 27 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: just moved to Charleston, so found myself on that and 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: then yeah, Madison put me up for Southern Charm and 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: that's how I ended up here. 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: What is the span of all of us? How many years? 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Three? 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Four years from Bachelor to now? 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: I think, so, wow, you know, I don't know, I 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: have a really bad timeline, but like that's maybe that's pretty. 35 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: Quick though, to be on all these shows, like it 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of has been happening pretty rapidly, very fast. Yeah, 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: that's probably a lot. I'm like, whoa, I feel like 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I've lived a lot of lives. Like, thinking of that 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: many shows, I'm like, okay, it's probably over the span 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: of maybe ten years. I mean that's crazy quick. 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeahah, yeah, I've gone through a lot. 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Wow. So, I mean You're time on the Bachelor was 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: short lived because you weren't really necessarily maybe over your 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: ex fiance. Exactly when you decided to go on the Bachelor, 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: did you think it was more so for like hot 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: girl revenge or to get over or to really find 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: a life? 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: It was really Yeah, on thousand percent, and I think 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that until I got to the hotel, 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: because they quarantine you for like five days in a 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: hotel room with no phone, no Netflix. I remember I 52 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: had to get one of the producers to go and 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: get me a coloring book. I was literally losing my mind. 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: But you're also really sitting there in your thoughts then, yeah, 55 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: you're probably just thinking and thinking and. 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: Thinking, sobbing every day. I'm like, what am I doing? 57 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: So when I left, actually ended up getting back together 58 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: with my ex fiance, okay, and then he cheated on 59 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: me again. I'm gonna went on Paradise and like, how 60 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: do you learn your lesson? 61 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go a lepard doesn't change his 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: spot exactly. Oh my god, I'm sorry. So, I mean, 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: when your ex fiance found out that you were on 64 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, what was his reaction to that? 65 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: He was pissed? Yeah, I mean I think that he 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: was also trying to, like, you know, not let things 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: get out that he had done to me. And at 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: first I protected his name for a while. I did, like, 69 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: I didn't admit to him cheating on me or anything 70 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: like that, and everyone thought that you know, it was 71 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 2: me that was interviewing for the Bachelor while I was engaged, 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: and I was just like whatever, and then I finally 73 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: was just like, you know what, it's my story too, 74 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: and I have the right to share it. Yeah. 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: So then you revealed to yeah, yeah. 76 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: Well he's a surgeon that I used to work with 77 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: and Eva, Yeah, I probably shouldn't say his name, we. 78 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Don't need to say. Yeah, but you met him like 79 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: totally outside of all of this. Yes, this was like 80 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: in the in the workfield that you yeah, obviously in 81 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: your profession for. 82 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Three years and nothing ever happened because I had a 83 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: boyfriend back in Charlotte, North Carolina, and that will forever 84 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: be the one that got away and I ended up 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: like we broke up because a long different distance. And 86 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: then me and him started going out and he just 87 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: really loved balming me. I mean we were engaged in 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: six months. Wow. Yeah, so it happened really fast and 89 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: then ended quickly. 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well, I mean at least you got out 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: they You know, I feel like men always try to 92 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: change or say they're going to be better, but when 93 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: they do something like so horrible to you, that's like 94 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: pretty unforgivable. I just feel like it's very unlikely that 95 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: they are going to change their ways. 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And I think it was very traumatizing 97 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: for me. I mean I still don't think i'm like 98 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: completely healed from it. I mean I'm trying to do 99 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: the work and like go to therapy and stuff. But 100 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 2: I mean when I was in that relationship, I was 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean I was like a wife. I mean I 102 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: was was not older than you he was he was 103 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: he was forty two when I was with him, So 104 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: I mean all I did was cook, clean and work like. 105 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: I didn't go out, I didn't really drink that much. 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: And then, you know, that relationship just kind of traumatized me. 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: And and so you were probably so young, probably twenty 108 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: five you're probably might. 109 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and before him, I had a long 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: distance really, I mean a long relationship which was five years. 111 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: So I never really got the party girl out of me. 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: So I feel like that happened. 113 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: You're a relationship person. 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Yes, But now I'm just like having fun. 115 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: As you should. Yeah. I mean people say your thirties 116 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: or that your best years. 117 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Oh there's so much fun. You have your own money, 118 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 2: you're not with you you know, you're you're living. 119 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, How is the Sally that we saw on 120 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: The Bachelor different from the Sally we know now on 121 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Southern Charm? 122 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't know. I mean I feel like 123 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: when I look back at the Bachelor clips, I'm like, 124 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: oh my god, I miss her. I like look at 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: her and I'm like, she's so sweet and like innocent, 126 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: and you know, and I still am sweet, I would say, 127 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: But like, I do think like a part of me 128 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: and a part of that experience made me like grow 129 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: to be a little bit more callous and which I 130 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: don't love that. Like I want to get back to 131 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: like who I was before all that happened. But I 132 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: think it is a blessing in disguise too, because now 133 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: I have a backbone too, and I like I don't 134 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: let people walk all over me anymore. But yeah, I 135 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: mean in Southern Drama, I just obviously I really just 136 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: am not giving up about really anything. I'm just living 137 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: my life and having fun. 138 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think throughout every experience, each experience 139 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: makes you who you are as a person, helps you grow. Obviously, 140 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: when you were younger, you were probably a little bit 141 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: more naive. You probably let something slide and then now 142 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: as you're older, you really realize your self worth and 143 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: who you are as a person. Obviously when you were 144 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: younger engaged to this older man who clearly has already 145 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: been through life, knows who he is as a person. 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: Like again, it took him to forty two. He's not 147 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: going to change his spots. That So it's just you were, 148 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, infactuated, And yeah, that happens often to many. 149 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: So I feel like that's like, you know, such an 150 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: inspiration to other girls out there who are in the 151 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: workplace and you know, are infatuated with people who are 152 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: older than them, and you know, it's inspiring to see 153 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: them work and they're just very you know for sure, 154 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: that whole thing. 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like I'm like picking I'm still 156 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: picking the wrong men. I mean, I do feel like 157 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: that relationship with an older man kind of I don't 158 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: want to say strip me down in my confidence, because 159 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: I am a confident person. But I would love to find, like, 160 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, that self respect and like self love again 161 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: that I had before him. 162 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're working on it, though, We'll get there. You're 163 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna get there. Speaking of Southern charm, you were kind 164 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: of in your villain arc. According to the viewers, do 165 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: you feel like how you were portrayed on Southern Charm 166 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: this season is how you thought you were going to 167 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: be portrayed. 168 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: Part of me kind of felt like I would be 169 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: portrayed in like a little bit of a villain era, 170 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: just because honestly, I feel like I just lit. I 171 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: put my whole life out there and I'm exactly who 172 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: I am on camera an off camera, although like I 173 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: don't ever know how they're gonna edit it, you know, but. 174 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: As the season was going on, you kind of had 175 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: a feeling like, Okay, I'm probably gonna be the villain. 176 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: Yes, as the season was going on, I was, yeah, damn, 177 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: they're doing me dirty, and I'm like, I shouldn't have 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: given them all of that. But at the end of 179 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: the day, I can't really complain because like I gave 180 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: them when I gave them, you know, and I was 181 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: just being myself. But I do hate how some things 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: are shown and how some things aren't shown, because the biggest, 183 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: you know, gut punched to me is that I'm not 184 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: a girl's girl. And it's like, yeah, that's hard because 185 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: as something I take pride in is like being such 186 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: a good girlfriend to my girls, and I think that 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: the show doesn't show that, but I think that all 188 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: the cast members would agree that I'm a I'm a 189 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: really good friend, and so that was hard for me. 190 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you been experiencing a lot of hate for 191 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: your actions because of the show. 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, there's probably ninety in my dms 193 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: are like more like do you girl, Like we're loving 194 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: the energy, like you know, you'll find yourself one day, 195 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: just like make mistakes kind of. And and then there's 196 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, the other five percent that are just horrible, 197 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of I think the biggest thing 198 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: is like everyone calling me a pick me and not 199 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: a girl's girl, and like that's like everyone's like, you know, 200 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: Sally's such a pick mey, she'll she's male centered and 201 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: like all of them. 202 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: We're going to get a little into that because I 203 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: think some of yourmates also kind of fueled that fire 204 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: as well. 205 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, which pissed me off. Yeah, because they don't I mean, 206 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: and maybe they do, but like to my face, they 207 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: tell me they don't feel that way, and I don't 208 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: think they feel that way. I'm like, if you felt 209 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: that way, Why are you hanging out with me like 210 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: you're my best friend because outside of the cameras, like 211 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: we are all super close. Yeah, and I just didn't 212 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: know it was all going on behind my back. 213 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: Are you watching the show back now that it's airing, Yes, 214 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: so are you kind of reflecting and realizing, you know, 215 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: maybe where you could have gone wrong or how you 216 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: could have done things better? 217 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, for sure. I here's the thing, Like, I 218 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: don't I don't regret anything I did. I mean, like, 219 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: I definitely feel bad about some comments I made, especially 220 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: when it comes to like Audrey and Austin, because she 221 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: is a really sweet girl and I don't think she 222 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: deserved that. But also to like my defense, like I'm 223 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: in a kitchen with like my best girlfriend into my 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: best gay friends. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, if he 225 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: was single, I'd hook up with him. But I feel 226 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: like that's normal, like girl chat. 227 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, being real, Like there's do you also feel like 228 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot of your actions were justified and or that 229 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: a lot of your actions were justifiable, but like maybe 230 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: they weren't portrayed in your best Wife? 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely, yeah I do. I do so. Yeah, I 232 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: mean I think the only difference is is there's like 233 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: a camera in my face, you know, and everything I 234 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: say is gonna go on there, good or bad. 235 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: You know. Unfortunately that's how it works. Yeah, so recently 236 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: we know that you're newly single and you've kind of 237 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: been conitdling a little bit with Austin or do you 238 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: feel bad that his ex is watching that? 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I of course I feel bad, Like I no 240 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: one would ever want to see that back. I also 241 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: think there's a side of it where it's it's kind 242 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: of like, you know, she knew he was on reality TV. Yeah, 243 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: and things are things can happen, and you know, also 244 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: edit takes place in that and but I definitely think 245 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: it's hard to watch it back. 246 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: And I think especially it would be hard for any 247 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: cutty I mean, especially when when your partner is now 248 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: in the public eye. Yes, and goes through this, but 249 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: also the relationship has clearly ended. 250 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: So and she didn't sign up, like, she didn't sign 251 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: up for this. Yeah, she's just dating someone that did. 252 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: But unfortunately she like gets in the crossfire. I know, 253 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: she's really sweet. 254 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I feel like that's just hard. You know, 255 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: it's when, especially when you have a partner who's in 256 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: the public eye. You then have to kind of watch 257 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: them move on. It doesn't matter if it's Awestin, it 258 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: could be anybody who's in the public eye. 259 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: You have to, you. 260 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Really do, get a front row seat of what they're 261 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: doing and how they're moving on. And it's definitely probably 262 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: not easy. 263 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not. And I think it makes it 264 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: ten times harder to find a solid relationship once you're 265 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: on reality TV. I mean this has ruined a few 266 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, I mean, even just in talking stages, 267 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: they're like, I don't want anything to do with this. 268 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, this is my life. 269 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't want to put their life 270 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: out there. 271 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's hard. 272 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Because even though you're the one in the front seat, 273 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: they you know, as you bring your person onto reality TV, 274 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: they want to be invested in your relationship and talk 275 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: about things, and sometimes like people just don't want that. 276 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: They like their private life. 277 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's hard, and that's also you know, 278 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: that's something that you have to respect. Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, 279 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: so I think I mean. 280 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: And it's hard when you're also on reality TV. You 281 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: can't really hide your person like. 282 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: You can't, like yeah, and then if you do. 283 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: It's like not really an option. 284 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: You had a friend the whole season and blah blah, 285 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: and like you know, it's just not it's not good 286 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: if your partner doesn't support it. 287 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Like House is in New Jersey. I know this for 288 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: a fact. Your husband had to be a participant in 289 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: the show. Oh yeah, so I'm I'm sure. It's kind 290 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: of the same thing when it comes to Southern Charm 291 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: or other shows on Bravo if you have a significant other. 292 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, like husbands have to be involved, so it's 293 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: really you, your partner, if you have a family, it's everyone 294 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: signing up to be on this exactly. 295 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, but Madison makes it work beautifully. I mean, 296 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: like kurrent Brett have a beautiful family and he he 297 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: doesn't film all the time, but like he does it 298 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: enough to like show their family. 299 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and yeah, come to the group events. Yeah, maybe 300 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: does someone on one scenes with her exactly? 301 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: He doesn't do the events. Yeah, He's like, I'm not 302 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: doing that. Respect. 303 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: What made you attracted to Austin on this trip? Was 304 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: it because he was single and like you were like, 305 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna shoot my shot and go for it? 306 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: What made you attracted? 307 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: So actually I've always been attracted to Austin since I 308 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: met him. Yeah, there's there was like an article last 309 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: year about how, like I even said I vibe with 310 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: Austin when someone asked me, like Craig or Austin, I 311 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: was like, I vibe with Austin so much better than 312 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: I do with Craig. 313 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I actually saw that. 314 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I'm like, it's his personality, I mean, 315 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: and we both just love to yap too. So if 316 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: we're if either of us are going through something or 317 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: we're mad at someone, we can talk on the phone 318 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: for hours about it and just be like complaining and 319 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: talking at each other and it makes me feel better. 320 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: And he he's just very much like me. We love 321 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: to go out, we love to have a fun time, 322 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: and we don't really like to like argue. 323 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: You know, when you were kind of exploring your feelings 324 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: with Austin, was there were there any lingering feelings still 325 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: left with Craig. 326 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: No? No, I don't you know that. It's really hard 327 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: to watch the that was hard to watch back because 328 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, watching this, I was like, I did not 329 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: I feel. 330 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: That deeply for Greg, and I'm being so honest with 331 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: you as a viewer, it really did look like you 332 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: were obsessed with him. 333 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, of course people are gonna be like, oh, 334 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: she's lying, she's obsessed with him, But no, like I 335 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: genuinely the vibes, the sexual chemistry, that all of that 336 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: not there, Like none of that was there, and that, 337 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: I mean, to me, is important and I don't know, 338 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: we just didn't hit it off like that. Yeah, but yeah, 339 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: it does definitely look like I'm obsessed with him and 340 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: I hate it. 341 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: So, speaking of Craig, you're now trying to kind of 342 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: get Charlie away from him. Do you think that's for 343 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: selfish reasons? Or are you really trying to help out 344 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: your friend. 345 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: At this point? Like, I have zero feelings romantically for Craig, 346 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: but I am trying to protect her because I'm watching 347 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: her make the same mistake I did. 348 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Like what, what do you think Craig's red flags are? 349 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: Just that he's a hot head? Yeah, like he just 350 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: and I like he's a little bit manipulative, Like yeah, 351 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: I do feel like he took me and Charlie under 352 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: his wings in the beginning of the summer to kind 353 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: of like have us on his side throughout the season, 354 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. And he would be telling Charlie 355 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: things by my back that I didn't know about, and 356 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: it just felt like he was like trying to against 357 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: each other. Yeah, and anything I repeated to Charlie like 358 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: I heard straight from someone else's mouth, Like I wasn't 359 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: making stuff up to like get her away from him. 360 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: But she also saw him scream at me like a 361 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: few times, and I was just like at this point, 362 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: once she told me like not to say anything negative 363 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: about him, I was just like, Okay, do you like 364 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: I'm here? If it falls. 365 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: Apart As you're watching the season back, do you feel 366 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: like maybe you should have stepped back and let them 367 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: feel it out for themselves, or do you still firmly 368 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: believe now that like your intentions were pure and you 369 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: were trying to do the best thing that you could. 370 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: I think my intentions were pure. I don't think I 371 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: would do anything differently, because I mean what y'all haven't 372 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: seen is you know they they were going out all 373 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: the time one on one, and I was completely far 374 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: away from. 375 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously not like and there you weren't sitting in 376 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: the back corner of there there used to be the three. 377 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: Of us going to dinners and stuff, because like I 378 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: was in the dark, which I don't think anyone knows yet, 379 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: but like I was completely I had no idea what 380 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: was going on between Charlie and Craig, Like zero clue. 381 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: I didn't even know that we had a group text. 382 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: Like I had no idea that they were texting on 383 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: the side because all of it was kept for me. 384 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: So of course I would have like if I knew 385 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: that they had that intense of like feelings for each other, 386 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: I would have like completely stepped back. Yeah, but I 387 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 2: didn't know, so, like you, they were being honest with me. 388 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: So you felt like at the same time though, as 389 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: you guys were having this group text and stuff, or 390 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: is that the time when you were still kind of 391 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: feeling had feelings towards Craig, so you like it was 392 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: like a weird like thing where he had the both 393 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: of you. 394 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was so weird. It really was 395 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: weird because I just had no idea that they were 396 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: communicating solo or going out by themselves. Yeah, Like I 397 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: felt like very blindsided by it because I would have 398 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: done things differently had I known that. 399 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just strange. That is very strange. 400 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like she's I mean, you start telling me 401 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: everything about like anything, Well. 402 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: Because she was your best friend? Yeah, is she still 403 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: your best friend? 404 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 2: I mean, like Madison brings up, She's like, you use 405 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: that term best friend, like you just fly, like let 406 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: it fly. And I'm like, you're right, I probably shouldn't 407 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: use the term best friend because like I when I 408 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: think about my best friends, I have six solid girlfriends 409 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: from college and like those are my freaking girls. Yeah, 410 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: and nothing could ever touch what we have, so I 411 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: maybe wouldn't say best friend. 412 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: So then, now that her and Kraig are obviously exploring 413 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: each other, what advice would you give two girls out 414 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: there where you're kind of in this we were in 415 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: this weird triangle, which I'm sure happens yeah more often 416 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, when you have a guy friend and 417 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: you two are close and something ends up happening with 418 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: one of you with the guy. Yeah, but what advice 419 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: would you give to girls that are kind of going 420 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: through this when you're at the time she was, you know, 421 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: you probably did consider her one of your close friends. Yeah, 422 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: of course, But when your best friend then starts going 423 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: after the guy. 424 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, the advice that I would go back 425 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 2: and give myself is like communication is key, and I 426 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: we stopped communicating during that time because I think she 427 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: felt a certain way about it. 428 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: She probably felt awkward too, Yeah, and because I could 429 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: know that you obviously had feelings for him. 430 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 431 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: But then again, girl Code, I know, you know, not 432 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: talking about being a girl's girl, but then she went 433 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: after Craig when you had obviously said that you had 434 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: feelings for him. 435 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean, like personally I would never do that, 436 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: yeah with like a friend, But at the same time, 437 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: she's in this new environment, she's filming for the first time. Yeah, 438 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, Craig was a comfortable person to like kind 439 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: of rely on and get advice from at the time, 440 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: we thought, so, like I get it, like he was 441 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: like her safe place in the filming area. And I 442 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: think that I got upset because like I brought her 443 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: into the group and I wasn't that safe place for her. 444 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: And she should have felt comfortable with you. 445 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it just like kind of sucked. But I 446 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: think that y'all will see I mean in upcoming episodes, 447 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: y'a would definitely see some things shift. 448 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: Where does your friendship lie now with Craig? After I 449 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: saw you make that funny voice over the other day, 450 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: I was like, Wade, confused. 451 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, Craig and he is one of 452 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: my good friends. I would call him a good friend, 453 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: but I think that we definitely have our issues. I 454 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: feel like it's kind of like him in Austin. I 455 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: mean not that deep, but we're just kind of like 456 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 2: why would you do that? Why would you say that? 457 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: But like, yeah, at the end of the day, we 458 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: care about each other and I know that I can 459 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: always I could call him if I needed him for something, 460 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: But I do wish he would check in a little 461 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: bit more because I do feel like sometimes he's only 462 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: a friend when filming or like the reunion comes back 463 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: around and then he kind of pops up out of 464 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: the blue and he's like texting and calling me and 465 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: he's like, how are you, how's your mental hate like 466 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: and all this stuff, and like you're just calling me 467 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 2: because the reunion's next mate. But that's the only thing 468 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: that I would like love for him to do more of, 469 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: is like to just check in and like be more 470 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: of a friend. Yeah, yeah, And you. 471 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: Know, that's I feel like that's a tricky part with 472 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: being on reality TV because sometimes these people really are 473 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: your close friends, and then some people kind of just 474 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: get thrown into the mix of being on this show. Yeah, 475 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: and it's you know, I think everybody obviously has their 476 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: friends outside of their castmates. Yeah, but it is nice 477 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: when you do get to form that close relationship with 478 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: your castmates and have that friendship. It makes it a 479 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: little more fun. 480 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. And I would say, and it also. 481 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: Makes it feel a little more real. 482 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and we're all so close now. 483 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: Same. I feel like the same with us on the 484 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: next Greendy. We weren't season one because again we were 485 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: getting used to it. Yeah, exact was season one. Yeah, 486 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: but it's crazy like the transformation from season one to 487 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: season two. 488 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel too. I feel like very 489 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: I could call any of them and say anything to them. 490 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: But I do feel like Craig's a little bit more distant, 491 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: but like he's always super busy. But yeah, I mean 492 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm talking to Rodrigo and Austin and Vanita and Charlie 493 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: every day. Yeah in Madison. So yeah, yeah, it's fun. 494 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: What do you think about Austin and Craig's kind of 495 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: toxic relationship. 496 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they just literally can't quit each other. It's 497 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: so funny to me because I'm like, it is very 498 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: toxic and there's like a weird feeling even when we're out, 499 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: when we're not filming, Like there's just tension and everyone 500 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: can feel it, and especially when drinks are in and 501 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: it just gets worse. And yeah, yeah, I just think 502 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: that him and Austin, like I would. I think all 503 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: of us would hate to not have them as friends. 504 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what makes their relationships so toxic? 505 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it's jealousy, I 506 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but they just can't seem 507 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: to get it together or maybe they've just like grown 508 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: a part. 509 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they but it's kind of like forcing it 510 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: to stay together in a way. Yeah. 511 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they butt that. I mean they love each other. Yeah, 512 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 2: and you can tell that they love each other. But yeah, 513 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what their issues are 514 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: with each other. 515 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: Would you say, in this situation talking about their friendship, 516 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: are your team Austin or team Crag. 517 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: I'm team Austin always. 518 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: Where does your friendship with Venita stand. 519 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: I think that one's hard for me. I care about 520 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: that girl so much. I mean truly, she became a 521 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: really really good friend of mine instantly, and I helped 522 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: her through a breakup. She helped me through a breakup, 523 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: and it was hard for me during the season for 524 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: her to like put a curfew on me and like 525 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: be like you can't hang out with Crag and all 526 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: this stuff. 527 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she clearly like she was trying to 528 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: warn you about Craig when you clearly were trying to 529 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: pursue him and maybe see if there was anything there. Yeah, 530 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: looking back on it now, Like, do you feel like 531 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Benita was wrong and her intentions were wrong? 532 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: I think that she was right in the in the yeah, 533 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: I think that she was right overall, but I think 534 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: she went about it the wrong way, like and like 535 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: you don't tell your friend like, hey, you can't be 536 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: at this guy's house past midnight. 537 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Like, did you feel like maybe you were 538 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: both in the wrong a little bit? Like she was 539 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: too assertive in some ways, but you should have maybe 540 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: like hurt her out a little better. 541 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And I think that y'all will see that too, 542 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: Like we do have a breakthrough. 543 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 544 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: You know, then we we have a little bit of 545 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: issues coming into the union, but we y'all are going 546 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: to see us work it out. We have a big 547 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: moment at the union. 548 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: So how do you feel like you should handle dating 549 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: someone your friend really hates? 550 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I've done it so many times. 551 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: I feel like, like, you know, because I date all 552 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: trash men. 553 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: So all my friends are always like, Sally, what are 554 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: you doing? 555 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: But I think they kind of have to learn from them. 556 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: I personally have to learn from myself and they usually 557 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: always end up being right. So I probably should start 558 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: to listen to my friends a little bit more. But yeah, 559 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: Sally does what Sally wants and I need to learn 560 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: my lesson sometimes. 561 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: Is it upsetting to look back and watch some of 562 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: the things that Vanita has said about you and her confessionals? 563 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 564 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah? 565 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: And I called her immature one time in like Fessionals 566 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: and she was like, would like not talk to me? Yeah, 567 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: and like so like the roast me all. Yeah. 568 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: So thinking about that, I mean, I think there is 569 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: a certain respect level, especially you know, doing reality TV, 570 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: getting closer with your castmates and really forming these friendships 571 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: when you're in your confessionals. It's like, really, you're you're 572 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: hurting your friend. If you're speaking poorly about your friend 573 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: and you're saying things that you wouldn't say to her face, 574 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: then you have to expect the other person to be 575 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: upset with you. 576 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I you know, she would always say like 577 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: we're making. 578 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: S like immature is not the worst thing in the world. 579 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you would have said that your face. 580 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: But all these things that she's saying about me, and 581 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: even Mollie, I'm kind of like watching it back and 582 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: I will send them clips and I'm like, you really 583 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: feel this way? Yeah, And they're like no, no, no, no, 584 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: Like they would just ask me these questions and I 585 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: was like, don't say things you don't mean I know. 586 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: And also it's like the whole oh I said this, 587 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: but they cut out the second part of my sentence and. 588 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: Then and I'm like, y'all are telling me I'm not 589 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: a girl's girl, but I don't see any of my 590 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: green screens where I'm talking about my girls, y'all are, 591 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: and that sucks. I'm like, it's hard to watch back. 592 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: Do you have any regrets this season? 593 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: No? 594 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: Do you still have those chickens. 595 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: Oh wait, maybe I do regret the chickens. I mean 596 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: I think that the chicken arrow was fun for a minute, 597 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: but like it was chaos every single morning at my house. 598 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: My wiener dogs are trying to kill my chickens. The chickens. 599 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Dogs don't like chickens. 600 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know that I had this. I had this 601 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: vision of like my chickens swimming in the pool, playing 602 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: with my dogs cutting. No, they can't get wet when 603 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: they're babies because they'll die. And then yeah, I didn't 604 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: know that, and then they don't care. They don't got dogs. 605 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: The dogs want to murder chickens. 606 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah they do. 607 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: Maybe I do regret the chickens. But I did not 608 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: have my chickens anymore. None. They are gone. My mama 609 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: took them to the farm. Yeah, so they're they're living 610 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: their best lives. Except for Popcorn. Popcorn died. Oh he 611 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: got eaten by a snake. I know. The guy tried 612 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: to cut the chicken out of the snake, but he 613 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: didn't survive. 614 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, that's it. Yeah you tried. 615 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: Popcorn was the worst one. Oh it was the one 616 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: Craig picked and he named it so Popcorn had to go. 617 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: At this very moment. Are you dating anyone? I am 618 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: not single? 619 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: Sali, single Sally, it's dangerous. 620 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 1: You put a real big emphasis on how badly you 621 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: want a family. Is that something you still truly want 622 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: in the end? 623 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I absolutely do. I think that there's 624 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: definitely some things that I need to work on and change. 625 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: Especially being in reality TV is definitely made me like, 626 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, a little bit more toxic. I don't 627 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: really know, it's just changed me a little bit. 628 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to like start navigating your feelings 629 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: and really, you know, feel your emotions. Yeah, and it's 630 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: hard to feel sometimes. I guess it's I guess I 631 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: want to say paranoia in a way, like it's hard 632 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: to really feel like, okay, that these people are not 633 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: out to get you, and that everything's genuine, it's. 634 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: Real, and what's not. Yes, And so sometimes I'm just 635 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: like people are like, how are you doing with all this? 636 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm fine, I'm ignoring it, and me 637 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: ignoring it is going out and like drinking and having 638 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: a fun time with my girlfriends and and stuff like that. 639 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, at the same time, though, you are single. 640 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but everyone are cast is getting me a hard 641 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: time for like, which. 642 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: Is so tired though, because I mean, you're thirty one, 643 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 1: you're not an old lady. Yeah, you shouldn't be a 644 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: hermit in your house exactly. And how else are you 645 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: supposed to meet somebody exactly? Are you? Are you supposed 646 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: to swipe on a dating app on your couch and 647 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: they're magically just going to poof into your living room and. 648 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: I don't have any I'm not on the dating apps. 649 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. 650 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm maintaining a great career or I'm 651 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not doing anything that I regret when 652 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: I'm going out drinking and I'm not like going overboard 653 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: and getting like blackout drunks, like I'm just going out 654 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: for black Yeah, I'm like, you know what, screw all you. 655 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep doing me. 656 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Listen, I think they're I think you could be doing 657 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: way worse seeing a way for sure, you know, a 658 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: bit way worse situation. 659 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: It'd be different if I was like going and blogging 660 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: out and like not waking up for surgery in the 661 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: morning and yeah, getting you know, my work done. 662 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, do you see yourself settling down with somebody 663 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 1: in Charleston. 664 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: That's a tough question. I don't know. I don't know 665 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: because the men that I have dated there have been 666 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: not good. But I mean, I definitely I see potential 667 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: in Austin. I really do, like I adore him. But 668 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: you know, maybe I should broaden my horizons and like 669 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: go and like find someone somewhere else. That's what Madison. 670 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: Madison's always like, you need to travel because your husband's 671 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: not here. 672 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, Okay, after such a tumultuous season, are 673 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: you second guessing reality TV? 674 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not second guessing it at all. 675 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: I think it's it's good to go back and watch 676 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: yourself because self reflect. 677 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: I say that all the time. 678 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 679 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: I think that's the best thing about reality TV is 680 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: to really sit there and watch yourself back. And that's 681 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: why I think it's so important to watch yourself back. 682 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: So are you ready to change people's minds? 683 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I hope So I really am you know someone 684 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: that should watch it back? As Craig, he doesn't watch 685 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: it at all. I'm like, maybe you don't. You should 686 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: only learn himself from. 687 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Yourself, you know, I mean, he obviously had a very 688 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: public breakup as well with Paige. Did that put up 689 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: any like, you know, alarms to you or make you 690 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: hesitant to pursue Craig? 691 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: No, No, I do. I genuinely think Craig's a great guy. 692 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: I just think he has some things to work on. 693 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: And I know, for one, I know how much a 694 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: breakup can change you and like also kind of damage 695 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: you a little bit. So I definitely want to hold 696 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: him accountable on some things, but at the same time 697 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: kind of understand if he's having like a hard time. 698 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you have such a successful career on 699 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: top of reality TV, and you've been very open with 700 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: how much money you're making. Why did you choose to 701 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: do reality TV? 702 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm one of those I also love it. 703 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean you're just making more and more money, so. 704 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like why not exactly? And also I'm like someone 705 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: that I'm like you only it sounds stupid, but like, 706 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: you really only live once, so why say no to 707 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: opportunities like that when they're never going to come around again? 708 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: And it's such a unique it's such a unique thing 709 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: to do reality TV. I mean, like not everyone has 710 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: definitely the opportunity, so I'm like, why why wouldn't I 711 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: you know, there wasn't really a reason that I could 712 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: think of of why not other than like the online hate, 713 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: But that doesn't really that doesn't really bother me. 714 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: Is there a world in which you would stop your 715 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: job and pursue influencing No. 716 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: I love my job so much. I think it's something 717 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: that keeps me very grounded and like even like and 718 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to focus. I don't want to lose myself 719 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: and like the reality TV and influencing stuff. So and 720 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: I think some of my doctors can tell when I'm 721 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: anxious about the show, and it was really sweet one 722 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 2: of them the other day. He was like, I want 723 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: you to come to clinic with me and meet some 724 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: of the kids that you have like worked on the 725 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: robot with, And I was like, that would be nice. 726 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: He's like, I think it would be something that would 727 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: keep you grounded and like reality and yeah, I feel 728 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: like if I lost that job or quit that job, 729 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: I would kind of lose myself with it, and I 730 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: don't want to do that. 731 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds amazing and sounds like you're really 732 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: making a difference. I love it, so, I mean seeing 733 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: those Kids probably just made you so happy. 734 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not every day that you 735 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: get to go and like enhance someone's life, like through surgery, 736 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: so it's great. And I work with the great, great, 737 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: great people at Children, so it's nice. 738 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: Well, Sally, you're amazing. Thank you so much for coming 739 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: on Casual Chaos and this is such an amazing