1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Welcoming in Jason locking for Baltimore Orioles a disappointment to 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: say the least last year after what they had done 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: the previous two years didn't really add much last off season. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: And what do you think, Jason, welcome in? Thank you 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: for joining us here. And we've seen some of your tweets, 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: so we know that you take a critical eye at 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: the Baltimore keeps you real, Keep it real. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: I like that. 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: That's that's better, So keep it real with us. What's 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: your biggest off season priorities right now? 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: Well, look, number one on my checklist will be fire Michaelias. 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: But they promoted him and didn't even bother to tell 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: their fans about it. And if not for your buddy 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: Ken Rolls and Fall and the reporters at the Athletic, 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: we still maybe wouldn't have known about it. 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: But as it stands, we're stuck with Elias. 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: So he needs to go out and get a legitimate 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: impact minilal order bat, preferably one who can play center 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: field and do so on a everyday basis, because I 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: don't think Calton Cawser's you never player. They need to 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: rebuild the entire back end of their bullpen. That's not 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 3: really a revelation. And I put this this lasting third. 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: Some people will put it first, but they need to 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: get another starting pitcher who could be more than an 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: innings eater, someone to compliment Bradish and I guess Rogers 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: the top of the rotation. 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: But they said have to go get an impact back, 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: so like would like a Tyler O'Neill to play. Oh wait, no, 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: that was less so so is that impact bat based 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 4: on the fact that now they offered hundreds of millions 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: of dollars to Corbyn Burns and it didn't It didn't 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: pan out, So maybe Rubinstein has that money. Or is 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: this a or is this a we got a trade 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: for the center fielder or are they just going to 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: take whoever the Phillies because they take whoever the Phillies 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: had and take one of their centerfielders. 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Well, I would say to the Burns of it all, 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: they knew he wasn't taking that that offer. He literally 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: left publicly in their face about that offer. So I 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: just think they wanted to be in the vicinity to 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: be able to say we look, I mean, it could 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: be Bellinger. I don't think they're gonna get Bellinger or Swerber. 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: I think they'll have to be creative and make a trade. 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: And Cedric Mallins may have been declining, but Cedric Mallins 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: was a hell of a baseball player here. And Enrique 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: Bradfield Jr. Is barely played at Triple A, so he 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: can't be even counting on whatsoever this coming year. 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: And again, the. 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 3: More you see at Calser and the more you see 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: that all he can hit is fastballs. And I don't 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: think he can play center field either, and he's got 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: deficiencies throwing to the cutoff man and throwing to the 53 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: right base. Not a very heady player. So no, they 54 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: need a center field or they need a field general 55 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: out there. I would say they need an impact bat 56 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: in their infield as well. They need more out of 57 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 3: first base, like a Pete Alonzo type would be great. 58 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen, but they need to move off 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: from Mountcastle. 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: And like if they're going to try to sell a 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: Platuna Mayo and Bisaio and a little bit of adlee 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: at first base, I would say that sounds like the 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: kind of things they often can cock that blow up 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: in their face. 65 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, always, always, the prospects never the championships. But let's 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: go to an area that, as much as the youth 67 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: and prospect everything was an area of strength and yet 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: to be determined by some solidified by others. Let's talk 69 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 4: about the back end of the bullpen. That was your 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: second point on your to do list, the back end 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: of the bullpen? How long ago? Oh man, the Mountain's 72 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: coming back. Phelis Batista's coming back, and you know, we 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: can put in your near canoe into the closer's role, 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: which was never gonna work because he's not a strikeout guy. 75 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: And then we had Sir Anthony that, uh, well he's gone. 76 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: How did a strength turn into such a not even 77 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: just not even weakness, but like a gaping hole that 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: they have to fill. 79 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Now, well, you. 80 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: Can take it back to Batista throwing bullpens in a 81 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: hundred degree heat in the summer, in a season when 82 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: everybody with a brain knew he was gonna have to 83 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: get Tommy John anyway, they put that surgery off. He 84 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: didn't come back from that surgery all the time. I 85 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: would say there's major question marks with their medical team, 86 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: because nobody really comes back from their surgeries all the 87 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: time around here. So and they remember they got Kimberle 88 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: to try to fill that role originally and gave him 89 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: furteen million dollars, which is like fifty million dollars for 90 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: a real team with the way these guys spend, and 91 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: and so they've been chasing their tail ever since. 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Then. 93 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: This year they counted on Batista coming back delayed off 94 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: of a delayed Tommy John and they didn't have a 95 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: whole lot of insurance there, and they don't have enough 96 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: guys in swinging miss stuff in the back end period. 97 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: Like I think them reuniting with a Danny Colomb who 98 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: can get left these end right, he's out with a 99 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: six pitch mix. 100 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: It's not going to be with you know, Velo that 101 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: nobody can touch. 102 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: But he was great here and he was great with 103 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: the Twins and they shouldn't have let him leave in 104 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: the first place. And then they need a right handed 105 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: setup guy, and they need a closer. And look, if 106 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: they would just commit to Tyler Wells not being a starter, 107 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: you're never going to get a lot of indings out 108 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: of Tyler Wells without him breaking down and let him 109 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: all distion to be the setup guy or the closer. 110 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: That would be one thing, but they're opposed to it, 111 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: swore as I could see being right up their ally 112 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: because his brother Albert's already pitched. 113 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: All right, you mentioned first base in the gaping hole. 114 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Ever you think a gaping hole in terms of the 115 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: power about it first base? What about Sam Besio? I 116 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: mean they say long term, they don't plan on sticking 117 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: him at ketcher because of his offensive upside and they 118 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: don't want to drain that. Adly did have a down 119 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: year last year, but he kind of picked back up 120 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: late in the season. So moving you know he's going 121 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: to be the catcher. What about moving Besio over permanently. 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he's twenty years old, like this kid like has. 123 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: Got enough on his play trying to figure out how 124 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: to catch at the major league level and again another 125 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: sort of odd player development quasi failure for them. Just 126 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: go look at how many innings he has and has 127 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: not caught in the minor leagues at catcher. Like So, 128 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, Like I think to count 129 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: on him and to count on Mayo would be typical 130 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: for them. It would be the kind of stuff they 131 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: like to sell to their fan base. But I also 132 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: think it could be potentially fraught with peril like Kobe 133 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: Mayo's got a whole lot of holes in his. 134 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Swing still, and it's probably a positionless player. 135 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: And I just think you know to expect Bosio to 136 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: provide elite own base and power, and they need both 137 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: at first base in his first full major league season 138 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: while playing some catcher. That doesn't strike me as a 139 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: way to solidify your lineup. It strikes me as more 140 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: on these kids who need people to take stuff off 141 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: of them, like someone cut her out. 142 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, don't have him catch, move him 143 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: to first base, a permanent first baseman. 144 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: Kevin is back, Let's let's have him back seventh in 145 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: the lineup and and call that a day in the 146 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: developmental year. And let's go get a real lineup, like, 147 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: let's not try to prop up Tyler O'Neal and pretend 148 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: that's something like let's not do the poppy Kakka last year. 149 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: Get Gary Sanchez to pretend. 150 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: He's a catcher, like, they need to get something real 151 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: in the middle of this lineup. And again that guy, 152 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: ideally he's got to play center field, or he's got 153 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: to play first base. The whole youth and these kids 154 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: are telling you, We're not it man, Like we need 155 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: where's our Bregman, you know, like where's our Kyle Tucker? 156 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: Like it can't all just be from within like they failed. 157 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: They failed multiple years down the stretch. So I mean, 158 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: I look, nobody likes Sam Pasillo more than me. I've 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: been on sammy first time I saw video him as 160 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: a sixteen year old. But like to count on that, 161 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: I think would be really sort of sophomore. But again 162 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: they are the quintessentially sophomoric. Chase your own tail front office. 163 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: So just keep doing what you're doing. It's been great. 164 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: Okay, here you a ja. 165 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 5: We can't get me immuted no matter what Jason. 166 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: I can't yell as much as Jason did. 167 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: But here's what I want to know, Jason. Here's my thing. 168 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 5: Your third thing on here is, yes, we know they 169 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: have to do find these hitters, and yes they have 170 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: to find these bullpen guys, and yes they have to 171 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 5: find starting pitching. You have Grayson coming back hopefully. You know, 172 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 5: you have a little bit of guys that can pitch 173 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: for you. You know Rogers pitch grade for him. You know, 174 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: Kramer will eat some innings for you. They have some 175 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: guys that can cover it. Yeah, so why won't will 176 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 5: are they scared to use these prospects that they've been 177 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: hoarding now for years, as you said, that haven't developed. 178 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: Because I'm not one hundred percent sold on all these 179 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 5: guys are going to be superstars like every of Baltimore things. 180 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 5: Will they use some of these guys to go get 181 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 5: a top three starting pitcher, a whoever that person needs 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: to be, Go get Trek Scouble be like you know what, Detroit, 183 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 5: we don't know if you want to trade him, but 184 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 5: we're going to give you our whole farm system for 185 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 5: a guy like Terrek Scouble and then possibly resign him 186 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 5: instead of what they do with Corba Murgens. Why won't 187 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 5: they do that? Because that seems to be the path 188 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: that they're not going to spend. 189 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I believe. I'm more convinced. 190 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: They'll spend on a bat than than do what you're doing, 191 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: pay a prospect cost and make Terrek Scooble the highest 192 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: paid pitcher in the league. Like, I don't believe Michael 193 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: Last wants any part of anything remotely like that. I 194 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: think he's incredibly risk averse. He don't even want to 195 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: draft pictures in the first round. He refuses to do it. 196 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: He doesn't really want to take him until the third round. 197 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: But you're telling me he's going to go out and 198 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: give up all these kids he's been hoarding and then 199 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: go pay Schooble. What you know, he and his representation 200 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: are going to want to commit here for five or 201 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: six years. Oh yeah, and he's already had one time, 202 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: he John Like, I don't buy that for a second. 203 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: I don't buy they ever really wanted corbyn Burns. They 204 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: want it again to be with enough of earshot at 205 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns to say we tried, he turned us down. 206 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, Like I think, Look, I think it's more 207 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: likely they go with a Martine Perez type and sell 208 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: him as a three than do any of this stuff. 209 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: Like they didn't want to give a Valdi. What did 210 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 2: it have taken last. 211 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: Year twenty five a year seventy five for three, you'd 212 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: have got him out of there for sure, Like they 213 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: weren't even thinking that way last year. 214 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: Do I think they've had this like huge course correction. 215 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: I don't. 216 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: And that's part of the reason it's lower on my 217 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: list is because of the inherent injury risk with pitching 218 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: and the way so many guys got wiped out. They're 219 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: taking a victory lab quietly like, oh, just see what 220 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: happened to Burns, Like would say that Walls and us 221 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: say they killed our whole payroll. I just don't think 222 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 3: that's really how they roll. If they get pitching, it's 223 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 3: gonna be called certain pitcher. Somebody else has already negotiated 224 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: the contract, somebody else has probably already paid a year 225 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: or two of it, and we'll assume the rest. 226 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Krats. 227 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: Pop quiz what has thirty five grams of protein, six 228 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 6: grams of fiber, twenty seven essential vitamins and minerals, comes 229 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 6: in excellent flavors like of course chocolate, vanilla, but chocolate, 230 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 6: peanut butter, my favorite, no added sugar, gluten free, under 231 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 6: five dollars per meal, and is ready to drink. 232 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: Go out of the house, get yourself a heel. 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Try both products today with fifteen percent 241 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 6: off your purchase for new customers with the codefoul at 242 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 6: huele dot com slash foul. Use that code foul and 243 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 6: fill out the post checkout survey to help support ft. 244 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: Let me ask youself. You said you said about michae Elias, 245 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: how he got that contract extension, and everybody thought maybe 246 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: you should be fired you you included. But let me 247 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: ask you this. He has brought talent to the minor 248 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 4: league system. He had success in Houston doing that. Would 249 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: you been against him in a different role with the 250 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: organization and somebody brought in that has finished the deal before, 251 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: because clearly he was given some money last year, not 252 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: a lot. I think seventy million can improve you a 253 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: lot more than Chicano and Tyler O'Neil. But could that 254 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: have been the route so that you just have somebody 255 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: that's willing to take the three point shot instead of 256 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: always lay up, lay up, lay up. 257 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: I mean it would have been great. I called for 258 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: years for checks and balances. 259 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: You can go back three years ago and find he 260 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: rant on the radio or going my Twitter, like they 261 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: needed a Dombrowski type who'd actually won before, who actually 262 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: had the cajones to know that sometimes like time is urgent, 263 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: like there is a like this year the al least 264 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: is really down, and this year there's more pitching available 265 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: at the deadline, then there's probably going to be in 266 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: the future, So now's the time to trade some of 267 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: these prospects and pounce. 268 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: And instead, you know, they got Flaherty for Drew rom. 269 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: Like so yeah, no, they needed a someone with big 270 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: boy pants here a long time ago, but like we're 271 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: right beyond that now, Like this guy got more money, 272 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: he got more power when the world fouled out. 273 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: For reporting not through the organization. 274 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: Nine months later, he then started whispering to people, well, 275 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: but we could hire a GM. Now he's already come 276 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: out and said I'm not getting a GM. So even 277 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: if he won't even hire a puppet GM who literally 278 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't have any checks and bounces or pushback, and we'll 279 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: be reporting to him anyway, like they're not getting any 280 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: better for me as an organization until he's gone. Until 281 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: the met bloods of the world stop getting extensions, and 282 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: they get the hell out of my city too. And 283 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: you get a real front office in here that can 284 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: go to these billionaires and say, all right, everything you 285 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: heard from these people is out the window. Here's how 286 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: we get These people have been waiting for a parade 287 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty three, a parade in the next couple 288 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: of years. I don't believe Michael Lias is wired that way. 289 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: I don't believe he'll ever be wired that way. And 290 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: there is no one in that building to push back 291 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: on anything he thinks. Everybody genuflects to him and his 292 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: calculator and tells them how brilliant he is. Just watch 293 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 3: the press conference with the new manager and he asked 294 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: him about personnel. Why would I ever even have a 295 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: thought about personnel? Like whatever, dude, Like, let's just play 296 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: it out. Let's fast forward to the season and then 297 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: there's going to be a lockout and hopefully this guy's 298 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: out of my life sometime in the next two years. 299 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: Hi, Jason, it sounds like sounds like you don't have 300 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: a lot of hope for this or team moving forward. 301 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: A j You're still muted, so we're not worried about 302 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: you right now? 303 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: Okay, I give up. I give up because you know what, 304 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: producer Lady's supposed to unmute me, and she's not on top. 305 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: Of her knees today, so we're gonna ask. 306 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 5: We're gonna have to have an argument later. 307 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: But we don't know special button. 308 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: They gave me as a guest host like the mute 309 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: aj But sorry. 310 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 5: Sorry, yes now you I was what I want to 311 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 5: from Jason, Who do you want? Who do you want 312 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 5: them to sign? Who do you want them to go get? 313 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: Give me in one minute, give me. 314 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 5: Two or three names that you would love for the 315 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: Orioles to go get that would help fix this problem. 316 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: Go get Kyle Tucker. 317 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 5: Oh duh, Go get one soda and show he o Tani. 318 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: They kind of traded for Wan soda. 319 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: I was begging than the trade for Wan soda that 320 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: year they had more they I mean, look, that trade 321 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: ended up being absolutely genius for the Padres. I mean 322 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: sorry for the Natsuh, but like these guys, these guys, 323 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: these guys could have done that. They absolutely I was 324 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: begging them to do it in real time even one 325 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: year that year would have put them over the top. 326 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: But now I. 327 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: Mean again, they get an aircraft carrier in the middle 328 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: of their lineup for me first and foremost. 329 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: So if you think that's Bellinger, then Bellinger. 330 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: But like if you're asking me right now, it's it's 331 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: it's Kyle Tucker. 332 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Okay, Kyle Tucker is your target, you know. I just 333 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: want to point out, Jason really quickly that the Toronto 334 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: Blue Jays finished last last year, and where were they 335 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: this year this October? 336 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: Where were a lot of people A lot of people 337 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: are saying that. 338 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: I see zero when the Orioles have a five hundred 339 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: million dollar first baseman and and they go out and 340 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: sign multiple free agents or at the top of their 341 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: uh at their lineup, or you know the leadoff guy, 342 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: you know Springer, who where'd he come from? Oh yeah, 343 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: they had to spend money to get him from someplace else. 344 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: When when oh yeah, and then they kept they kept 345 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: Vladdie and these guys signed Basio and then started wanting 346 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: about the contract thirty seconds later, Like there's zero comparisons 347 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: for me between them in Toronto, Like Toronto situationally hit, 348 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: like Toronto had what six guys get gold gloves. 349 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: People come to this team in the miners they don't 350 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: have a position. 351 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: They've played so many different positions, they're no good at 352 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: any of them. They don't know how to slide. Watch 353 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: Jackson Holiday slide head first was feet in the air. 354 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: Tell me about their player development. No, they ain't Toronto, 355 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: that's true. 356 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Toronto did spend a lot in free agency. 357 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: Jason. 358 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 5: You have to last in the World Series, though, hid 359 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: you don't forget that. 360 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: First to count them. 361 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: They won the Al Bennet. Aj They won the Al 362 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Bennett all right, Jason blackimbore, thank you so much for 363 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: joining us. You've got a show to go do on radio. 364 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: We really appreciate the time and the spunk that you 365 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: brought with it. 366 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Always. Thank you, guys, thanks for having me. All right, 367 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: we're back. 368 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, he was just mentioned as Jason's wish list 369 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Orioles. So which team needs to sign 370 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker in free agency? Jason thinks it's the Orioles. 371 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: Who do you guys think we're gonna start with? 372 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: You, Cratzy, I mean, it's got to be the Cubs 373 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 4: in my opinion, it's got to be the Cubs. I know. 374 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: The article talks about the Phillies and I'm supposed to 375 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: be the resident Philly expert here, But Homer, they tried. 376 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: The Phillies tried to get him last year. The Phillies 377 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: had a deal with the Astros for you know, a 378 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: Nick Costiano's Alec Boum and a prospect for Kyle Tucker. 379 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 4: He would have looked tremendous in that outfield, as anybody 380 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: will look tremendous when you're adding it to a lineup 381 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: that's already legit. But to me, how the Cubs don't 382 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: resign him? And I get it. I've heard all the 383 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: you know, they're not gonna sign all this stuff. You trade, 384 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: you trade what they traded Cam Smith, Estak Parades, two 385 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: guys that could have helped your team also or help 386 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: your team in the future. Now you don't even resign 387 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: this guy like you have. If you're the Cubs, you 388 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 4: at least have to make it legitimate. You have to 389 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 4: be in the four hundred million dollar range. If you 390 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: fall short, at least you made someone else pay more. 391 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Cubs are definitely in on him 392 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: and Kyle. When I spoke to him in Gosh early September, 393 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: he said he he he loved his time there. He 394 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: definitely would like to stay there, but he earned the 395 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: right to test free agency. I think that slump he 396 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: had in August may have brought his number down a 397 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: little bit, but he's still going to get top dollar, 398 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: right AJ. 399 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 5: Listen, the Cubs are out. They've already said they're out. 400 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 5: As much as they want to be in there, they're 401 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 5: not in. They said already said we're gonna go for 402 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: middle market relievers and starters. And Kyle to come on, 403 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 5: you're the Cubs, Aldy, you're wearing an Expo shirt. Okay, 404 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: expos you're out on a lot of pilayers. You're the Cubs. 405 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 5: Go sign whoever you want. If you want to sign 406 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: whoever you want, You're the Cubs. 407 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: You can do it. 408 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 5: So Ricketts family, wallets get off of them. Go sign 409 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 5: whoever you want. 410 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: He was a big part of that team. He was 411 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: a big part of that team. But when the Cubs 412 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: started struggling, he was right in the middle of that 413 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: this year prolonged slump. 414 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: So that shows you he was worth It shows you 415 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: if he goes, the team goes. 416 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: GM meetings are underway this week in Vegas, which is 417 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: more of like a set the scene start chatting whatever 418 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: than actual news breaking. But according to Francis Romero, hearing 419 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: from the GM meetings that the reliever market could start 420 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: moving in the next few hours with big names such 421 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: as Edwin Diaz, Devin Williams, Robertsworrez, raycell Iglesias, and Ryan Helsley. 422 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: It was already a trend at the last trade deadline. 423 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: Of course, it is relievers on the move. It's always 424 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: a trade trend at every trade deadline. Cratsy, who do 425 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: you think goes first? 426 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 4: Everybody needs a closer, So who goes first? You know what? 427 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: I look at that list. If I'm Ryan Helsley's agent, 428 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: I'm making sure he goes first. I'm setting where i 429 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: want my market to be, and I'm not allowing those 430 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: other monsters. I mean Edwin, Devin Williams, Robert Suarez, like 431 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: those are three legit like nlal reliever of the Year 432 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 4: type of pictures, and they're all out on the market. 433 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: And Ryan Helsley kind of he faded. He didn't do 434 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: well when he went to New York. So to me, 435 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 4: I hope for him, I hope he goes first so 436 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 4: that he isn't being dictated by the rest of the 437 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: guys in the market, and I think he could get 438 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: he could get something that maybe won't be out there 439 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 4: once other guys are already gone. But I don't remember 440 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: a reliever market this big. This is a nice market 441 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: if you need a closer. 442 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: What are we hearing on qualifying offers? The Cardinals have 443 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: some movement going on and hein Bloom took over. I'm 444 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: interested to see what hein Bloom does because he was 445 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: there in the organization kind of way in the wings 446 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: under Mosila for a while, and now it's his baby. 447 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: So we're hearing Brendan Donovan, Nolan ar Nato might be 448 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: on the move. What do you guys think about that? 449 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: Kratz? 450 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 4: I mean, I think heim Bloom is he didn't have 451 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: to do what they thought was going to be the 452 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: heavy lifting last year in getting rid of Nolan Aernado, 453 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: because that's exactly what he had to do when he 454 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: went to Boston. They said, I need you to offer 455 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: Mookie Betts one hundred and twenty million dollars and that's 456 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 4: all you're going to get to offer him, or you 457 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: take care of the rest. So it made it look 458 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: like heinin Bloom didn't want to keep him around, so 459 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: the front the ownership made him make a tough decision. 460 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: So good for the Cardinals for not making him be 461 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: the guy who comes in and just Rex House. There's 462 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: still some stuff he has to do, so I hope 463 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 4: he can get Aeronaudo off the books. I hope he 464 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: can get something for Brendan Donovan because I don't think 465 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 4: it's the Cardinals year this year. But if you look 466 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 4: at what he did with the Red Sox, he's already 467 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 4: started that in the minor leagues, kind of revamped how 468 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: they did stuff in the minorn leagues, and hopefully that 469 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: comes to fruition. You know, it's paid a little bit. 470 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: Maybe he could even get rid of a Contraras or 471 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: a Sonny Gray that would add to that depth that 472 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: they have some young, nice players to bring up and 473 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: then bring the Cardinals back to the ranips