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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily Abadi here bringing you Episode one thirty

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Speaker 1: like thirty miles a week, and so just having that base,

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Speaker 1: I was definitely doing that. But you know, and then

439
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Speaker 1: in Traflon. Actually, when I was doing Traughlon, I noticed

440
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Speaker 1: that my run times were getting faster than they were

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Speaker 1: in college. And I'm like, this is weird because in

442
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Speaker 1: college I was just running and like, I'm running way

443
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Speaker 1: last as a trathlete, but my times were improving. So

444
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Speaker 1: I definitely think if your body can't handle the high mileage,

445
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: supplementing it with with swimming and biking definitely can improve

446
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Speaker 1: your run times.

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476
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Speaker 2: be a CPA, but you said the calls kind of

477
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Speaker 2: start coming in.

478
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: Talk to me about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Barblinquist was with USA Traflon College recruitment program,

480
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: and she had talked to me in when I was

481
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Speaker 1: still going to school, and she just kind of became

482
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Speaker 1: a mentor. She said, you know, Gwen, on paper, you're

483
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Speaker 1: better than me. And I was an Olympian, I think

484
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Speaker 1: you could be great at this. And the first time

485
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: she called, I actually just laughed. I was like, I

486
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: didn't even know Traflon was an Olympic sport, Like I

487
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 1: thought she was recruiting me into iron Man and I

488
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: just was clueless about the whole thing. And she didn't

489
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Speaker 1: give up. And I think the you know, for me,

490
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Speaker 1: I always wanted I needed to make decisions on my

491
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: own terms. I could never have somebody tell me I'm

492
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: good at something and I should just do it, like

493
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: it needed to be my decision. And she never really

494
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Speaker 1: forced it on me. She just had these weekly calls

495
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Speaker 1: and she became a really great mentor from me. She

496
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: talked to me about, you know, transitioning from school to

497
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: after college and working and all these things. And she

498
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: just called me weekly and was a mentor a friend.

499
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Speaker 1: And I just remember one time she called and she

500
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Speaker 1: normally she wouldn't even talk about Traflon and this one

501
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: time she said, well, one, you know, are you are

502
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: you going to work out still when you're working at

503
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Ernstein Young the coming firm, And I said, yeah, I'm

504
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: still going to keep active. And she said, well, you know,

505
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: we could get to a bike for free and a

506
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Speaker 1: coach and you could just do this part time, you know,

507
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Speaker 1: when you want. And I was like, okay, Like I'll

508
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Speaker 1: give Traflon a shot. And within the year I qualified

509
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Speaker 1: for my first Olympics.

510
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Speaker 3: Casual talk to me about qualifying for the Olympics.

511
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Speaker 1: You know, that was actually probably one of the hardest

512
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Speaker 1: parts of my career because I was so new to

513
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Speaker 1: the sport. I qualified, and I felt guilty. I went

514
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Speaker 1: into this race. I think I was ranked like fifty

515
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: third out of sixty athletes and I ended up getting

516
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Speaker 1: second at the race and that qualified me for the Olympics,

517
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: and I just remember feeling guilty. You know. There was

518
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Speaker 1: some talks, some rumors, some people on the team, the

519
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: USA team who said, you know, the only reason g

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Speaker 1: One qualified was because it was a running race. It

521
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a true triathlon. She can't bike, she's not that

522
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: great at swimming, and all these comments, and you know,

523
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: for me, I really was like, oh man, maybe that

524
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: is true. Like I've only been doing this sport for

525
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a year, and it was actually a really tough couple

526
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Speaker 1: of weeks for me. And I think a couple things

527
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: helped me, and one was my parents were actually there

528
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: in Europe when it happened, and we had planned this

529
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Speaker 1: trip after that qualifying event. We were going to go

530
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Speaker 1: to Denmark because my heritage Jorgensen is from Denmark, and

531
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Speaker 1: my dad really wanted to see it, and so it

532
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Speaker 1: was just kind of like this fun family vacation and

533
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Speaker 1: just having my parents there and getting away from Traflon

534
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Speaker 1: for a week and just talking about family stuff and

535
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: nothing sport related really helped me. And as well, I

536
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: had a friend who said to me his name was

537
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Speaker 1: Chad Hartley. It was actually Patrick, my husband's friend, who

538
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: was my boy boyfriend at the time. His friend just said,

539
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: when you know, you may not have been doing travel

540
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Speaker 1: on your whole life, but you've been swimming and running

541
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Speaker 1: your whole life, and it's not like you just haven't

542
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Speaker 1: been doing anything and just within a year qualified like

543
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: you've been preparing your whole life. You just didn't realize it.

544
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Speaker 1: And I think that gave me the confidence to think,

545
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Speaker 1: you know what, I do deserve this, and I want

546
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Speaker 1: to do this, and I've had dreams of going to

547
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Speaker 1: the Olympics and this is a dream of mine and

548
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Speaker 1: I want to do well and represent our country at

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Speaker 1: the highest level.

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Speaker 2: How do you move forward and quote unquote put the

551
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Speaker 2: blinders on when criticism comes in.

552
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, back in those early days of Traflon,

553
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I had a more difficult time with it. But something

554
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Speaker 1: that Traflon, as well as sport in general, and then

555
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: as well my husband, have given me is just confidence

556
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Speaker 1: in myself. And especially in this day and age when

557
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Speaker 1: everything's on social media, everything you post, everything you say

558
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: is you know, up for criticism. You know you're going

559
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: to post a picture and for some reason, if you're

560
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: a female, people are going to comment on the way

561
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Speaker 1: you look. And it's just funny because each camera angle

562
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: is so different and a lot of times when you

563
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: post pictures, they're not even from that day, they're from

564
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Speaker 1: previous times. And I think for me, I've just gained

565
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: so much confidence through sport and through my husband loving

566
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Speaker 1: me as I am, that I've learned that it just

567
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. People are always going to say negative things

568
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: comes with the territory. It's something that it's hard to

569
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Speaker 1: learn to not listen to that. But I a lot

570
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: of times just find it comical. You know. All through

571
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Speaker 1: my traflon career, people said I wasn't a good biker,

572
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Speaker 1: I was never going to do well and I ended

573
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Speaker 1: up winning a gold medal at on a course that

574
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: was really technical and hard on the bike. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think people are they love to be armed. What

576
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: is it called sofa armchair critics? What's that?

577
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: I think? Armchair?

578
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, people they just you know, sit back

579
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: in their homes and they're not doing it, but they

580
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: think they know what's best for us. And I've learned

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Speaker 1: I'm confident in who I am. I know that I'm

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Speaker 1: doing my best on a on a daily basis. Yes

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Speaker 1: I'm not perfect. Yes I can improve in many areas,

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Speaker 1: but I know what I need to work on, and

585
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Speaker 1: for me, I just focus on myself and knowing that

586
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Speaker 1: I'm confident in myself has given me the ability to

587
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Speaker 1: not let those negative comments affect me.

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Speaker 3: Have you worked with sports psychologists.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have many times over the years, and you

590
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Speaker 1: know that that's probably helped me as well. You know,

591
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: gain that confidence and to realize how to focus on myself.

592
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Speaker 1: But I really think the two biggest things have just

593
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: been the confidence that sports gives me. So you know,

594
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: focusing on those processes instead of the outcome has given

595
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: me confidence in myself knowing that I'm working on these

596
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: techniques today and yeah, maybe that won't show in today's execution,

597
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: but long term, if I keep working on these correct

598
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: techniques and correct process, long term, the outcome is going

599
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Speaker 1: to be there. And so that's given me confidence. And

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Speaker 1: as well, just having people that accept me for who

601
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Speaker 1: I am outside of sport is something that has given

602
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Speaker 1: me a ton of confidence as well.

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Speaker 3: Really important stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so then chat me through your first Olympics and

605
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Speaker 2: what that was like for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my first Olympics. So you know, I got second

607
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Speaker 1: in the test event, which was the same people, same

608
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: course the year before, and so I had high hopes

609
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Speaker 1: that you know, I wouldn't say I was the favorite,

610
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Speaker 1: but I would say I was. I was talked about

611
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Speaker 1: in the in the metal mix, and I went to

612
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: it with high hopes. And I had a okay swim,

613
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Speaker 1: not a great swim, got in the bike and had

614
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Speaker 1: a flat tire which I've never gotten in a race,

615
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Speaker 1: never previous, never after, And I just remember I was

616
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: so new to this sport. I was asking people, some

617
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: of the competitors around me. I was like, do I

618
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: have a flat tire? I was like, oh, my gosh,

619
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Speaker 1: do I really? And They're like, yes, you have a

620
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Speaker 1: flat tire. And so in Trothlon you have to stop

621
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Speaker 1: at these you have to make it to these tire

622
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Speaker 1: pit stops basically, and people can't help you, so you

623
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Speaker 1: have to get off your bike, you have to change

624
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: the wheel yourself, and then get on your way. And

625
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Speaker 1: I just remember thinking there was so many times in

626
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Speaker 1: that race when I after that flat tire, I had

627
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Speaker 1: negative thoughts of like, oh should I just stop, like

628
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Speaker 1: I'm so far behind, And being at the Olympics, I

629
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Speaker 1: think gave me the motivation to give in my all

630
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Speaker 1: and to continue on. And I had, you know, one

631
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Speaker 1: of the fastest runs of the day. I think I

632
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: ended up like mid thirties. And I finished that race though,

633
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Speaker 1: and just thought, Wow, I want to do this again.

634
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Speaker 1: I think I can win a gold medal, and I'm

635
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Speaker 1: going to spend the next four years trying to hone

636
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Speaker 1: in on this.

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Speaker 2: Draft for those that aren't completely familiar. Let's just recap

638
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: the distances involved in an Olympic triathlon.

639
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: Yep. So it's a fifteen hundred meter swim, a forty

640
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: k bike, and a ten k run and it takes

641
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Speaker 1: about two hours to complete the entire event.

642
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Speaker 3: And that's two hours for someone your level.

643
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Speaker 2: So if you're if you were like a because I

644
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Speaker 2: feel like, for an example, like if the goal the

645
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: coveted goal for like marathon ers beginners, like they always

646
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: say like I want to sub four. So if you're

647
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Speaker 2: going into an Olympic level triathlon and you're like a

648
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Speaker 2: regular human, good, what's a good benchmark? Oh?

649
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Speaker 1: Man, I don't even know.

650
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: Is there not like a sub for equivalent?

651
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: No? I mean so it's interesting in traflon, and I

652
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: think this is another reason I've gotten so good at

653
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Speaker 1: not focusing on times like in so many and I

654
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: used to be so honed in on like the pace

655
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: clock and always looking at times, And same with runners,

656
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: I think you're always looking at like pace and in

657
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: travelon there's no like world record for times, there's no

658
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: just time is not really a focal point, which I love.

659
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 3: I love that too.

660
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: It's just I think it really hones in on you

661
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: doing your best, and you know, every course is so different,

662
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: same with marathons, Like some are hilly, some are flat,

663
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: sometimes it's windy, and so I don't know, I just

664
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: I would be totally guessing. If I said, like a time,

665
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: maybe double what I would do, So maybe like three

666
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: or four hours. I have no idea.

667
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: Lasting over here. Just just double my normal, you know,

668
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: for like the coverage.

669
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: Feel like I sound bad.

670
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: No, you don't sound bad. You just sound like an

671
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: elite level athlete.

672
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if like I don't know, pick like any

673
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: sport and they were like, oh, a normal person to

674
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: probably do double that, I would say, that's pretty pretty

675
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: damn good. Okay, So you make this decision for yourself.

676
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: The next four years of your life leading up to

677
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen in Rio are going to be you dedicated

678
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: to being the best triathlete you can be.

679
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: Correct.

680
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, my husband Patrick, I think the only,

681
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: definitely the only reason I was able to do this

682
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: was that was my boyfriend at the time, and I

683
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: knew that in order to do this, I needed to

684
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: be in a daily training environment, so where my coach

685
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: was there and I had a group of basically competitors

686
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: that I was training with every single day, so I

687
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: could kind of push myself see where I was at

688
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: be confronted with the world standard on a day basis.

689
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: And so in order to do that, I needed to

690
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: move abroad for like nine months of the year. And

691
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm a homebody. I didn't want to leave home. And

692
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: Patrick said, well, you know what, I will move with you.

693
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Would you do it then? And I was like, oh

694
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: my goodness, like we are not at this point in

695
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: our relationship, but okay, yes, like thanks to it, And

696
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: so he moved abroad with me. I think that's when

697
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: really everything, you know, really changed dramatically. Pat became basically

698
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: he used to be a professional cyclist and he quit

699
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: that to support me, and he knew what I needed

700
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: because he came from a sporting background. And I think

701
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: him being able to support me in that way allowed

702
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: me to overcome the challenges of being away from home.

703
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I was in this group where I

704
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: didn't have any friends. I just moved across the country,

705
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: or not across the country, to a new country. I

706
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: was in Australia, didn't have any friends there. Everything was different.

707
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: People drove on the opposite side of the road, like

708
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: nothing was east. And then we spent the second half

709
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: of the year in Spain, actually in the Basque region

710
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: where they speak Basque, not even Spanish, so I couldn't

711
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: understand anything. And just having Pat there was something that

712
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: allowed me to really focus on just my job, which

713
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: was Traslon.

714
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: Was that hard for you to like accept that next

715
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: level amount of like I want to be here for you,

716
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: this is going to be good. He wants to like

717
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: literally just put to the side what he's doing to

718
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: show up. I feel like, I mean, I think about

719
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: like my love languages, and I would be like, I

720
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: don't even know how I would handle it.

721
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, when when he told me he was going to

722
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: quit being a professional cyclist, I really was taken aback

723
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, don't do this, like you're

724
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna basically hate me long term, because you're gonna regret

725
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: not pursuing your dream to follow mine. And Pat's he's

726
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: a caretaker. He gets joy out of caring for others,

727
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: and so you know, I didn't really know that at

728
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: the time, And it's so funny to think back because

729
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: now I'm always like, continue to care for me, like

730
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: I've gotten so used to him just being there for

731
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: me and doing everything that I'm like, no, no, never

732
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: go back. But you know, I think for him, he

733
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of joy out of it, and he

734
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: saw my potential and he wanted to be a part

735
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: of something of being an Olympic champion, Like he knew

736
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I could do that, and so he knew that I

737
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: needed help as well to do that, and so him,

738
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: he got a lot of joy out of out of

739
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: doing it as well. And it was our journey, our

740
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: metal and it wasn't just me. He knew that it

741
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: was him as well, and that I couldn't have done

742
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: it without him. So yeah, it was super scary at

743
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: the beginning. I really didn't want him to do it

744
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: at the beginning, but I'm so so thankful. You know.

745
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: It took a couple of months to definitely adjust and

746
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: figure out what our roles would be and how he

747
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: would do that within our relationship, But I loved it,

748
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: and I continue to love his support and everything he does.

749
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: It's a great perspective when you think about, aside from

750
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: moving abroad, when you think about the ways that you

751
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: may have had to pivot or how life had to

752
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: change when you really shifted your focus and had this big,

753
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: solid goal. Do you reflect on anything in particular that

754
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: was like the biggest change you had to make in

755
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: that process.

756
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: I think it was a mental shift. Something my trathlon

757
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: coach Jamie Turner told me was to view things as

758
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: an investment instead of a sacrifice. So originally, when I

759
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: talked to him about moving abroad, I was like, that's

760
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: too big of a sacrifice. I'm never going to see

761
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: my family. I can't come home for weddings, I can't

762
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: come home for holidays. And you know, he kept saying, well,

763
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: is it a sacrifice or is it an investment? Are

764
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: you putting money in the bank for this metal that

765
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: you're going to earn that will pay off and pay dividends?

766
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: And that really was a huge shift in my mental

767
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: state that allowed me, I think, to put in the

768
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: efforts and to keep me sane in what I was

769
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: doing during that time, just knowing that everything I'm doing

770
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: is an investment in myself and we're working towards this goal.

771
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: And you know, skipping a friends party or going to

772
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: bed early, or you know, not being able to talk

773
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: to my mom for a week because I'm abroad is

774
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: an investment. It's not a sacrifice. And that's something that

775
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: I think just allowed me to really enjoy the process more,

776
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: enjoy the process more, and realize that I was doing

777
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: something to I was doing something to make it a

778
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: bigger goal and something almost bigger than myself.

779
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: I'm trying to in my head. I love that perspective

780
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: and that approach to it. So I'm thinking about that

781
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: in relevance to I guess other life things like an

782
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 2: investment when you have to set boundaries with other people,

783
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: like I personally, I feel like twenty twenty is the

784
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: year that I'm really working to have better boundaries for

785
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: self care. And so when I think about these boundaries

786
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: being an investment in myself rather than me like diminishing

787
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: the way that someone.

788
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: Else might feel. I don't know, it's just like a

789
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: really interesting approach for sure.

790
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like as well, like when you do things

791
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: for yourself, it's actually more fair to other people as

792
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: well if you're upfront and you say what you need.

793
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say what I need. And you know,

794
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: when people ask me to do stuff, I used to

795
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: be a yes woman, and now I'm actually more like

796
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: a no, but that I think is almost respectful in

797
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: other people of respectful of other people's times, Like if

798
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: you're not going to enjoy it, the other person's going

799
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: to kind of kind of get that on their end

800
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: and they're going to not enjoy it as much either.

801
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: And I think it's really good to have those boundaries.

802
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: And I think we all have our own stuff in

803
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: our life and we can't worry about trying to please others.

804
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: I think if we have the right heart and intentions,

805
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: you don't need to say yes to everything. You need

806
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: to do what's best with your long term goals and

807
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: self and well.

808
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: Being for sure. For sure.

809
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: Okay, we're in a four year training cycle here, we're

810
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: gearing up for the Olympics, and things are going well,

811
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: question Mark.

812
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely ups and downs, you know. I remember

813
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't I had like one sponsor at the time

814
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: when I first went over to Australia. I think I

815
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: was making like fifteen grand for the year, which did

816
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: not caught Like that did not even cover patent my

817
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: living expenses, Like it was super expensive to live in

818
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: Australia and in Spain, and we had all these plane

819
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: tickets and like I had to pay for pat plane

820
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: tickets and which I'm not complaining about, but you know,

821
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: it was this huge investment that we were making. And

822
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: I knew when I quit accounting that I had money

823
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: in the bank to do trathlon for like two years.

824
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: And I was working really hard. Training was going super well,

825
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: and I in my first race and I DNF. It

826
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: was my first DNF, and I just remember I was

827
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: like out on the course. I got out of the

828
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: swim and the in the Olympic distance, the traathlons I do,

829
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: everything's looped, so it was like the eight laps on

830
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: the bike course, you know, four laps on the run,

831
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: so you pass people every time. And I got out

832
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: and the first lap of the bike my coach and

833
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: my husband are just on the sidelines and they're like

834
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: stop stop, like doing like the cut of like your

835
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: neck symbol. And I was like, oh, I'm going to

836
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: prove them wrong. I can still do this. And I

837
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: go around and another lap and they're like stop stop,

838
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: and I'm just like no, I'm going to do this.

839
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm like in shape, I'm ready come around the third

840
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: lap and I was like I need to be done,

841
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: and so I pull off the course where they were,

842
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: and this man on the side of the street's like,

843
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: were you looking for those two men that kept yelling

844
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: at you? And I was like yeah, and he said, oh,

845
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: they're in the bar having a drink and I was like,

846
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: oh no. I was questioning everything I was doing, like

847
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: can I do this? What's going to happen? And my

848
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: coach had a very important conversation with me, and it

849
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: was you know, I think it comes back to this

850
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: theme of focusing on the process. And he's like, when

851
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: you're doing everything right, you don't need to go back

852
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: to the drawing board and change everything, which is what

853
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: I initially thought. I'm like, we need to change everything

854
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, no, like you're on the right track.

855
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Just continue along. Things will fall into place. It just

856
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: takes time. And my very next race I won. It

857
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: was the first World Travelon Series, which is the highest

858
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: level of racing and traugh on. It was my first win,

859
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: first American female win ever, and so I think that's

860
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: something that taught me a lot. And you know, from there,

861
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't all roses. There was another point in that quad,

862
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: like a year later, when I wanted to quit. I

863
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: had three races in a row that just went horribly.

864
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of crashes and so I was crashing.

865
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: I crashed out of a race. One race I crashed,

866
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: and then I continue to finish, but I was just like,

867
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's like my skills aren't good enough.

868
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: I get too scared. I can't do this. Then there

869
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: was another race where, you know, looking back, it sounds

870
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: silly because I got third, which getting third place is amazing,

871
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: but to me, I knew that I had more in me.

872
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: And I think the reason I wanted to quit after

873
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: that race was because mentally I wasn't engaged in that race,

874
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: and I thought, I don't have mentally what it takes

875
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: to win and to get the most out of myself.

876
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: And I think that's really when I used a psychologist

877
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: and as well, I took a break. I did like

878
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: two weeks, Pat and I just went We were in Europe,

879
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: we were living in Spain, so we just went on

880
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: this two week like European vacation. I stopped journaling, I

881
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: stopped thinking about Traflon. I just kind of gave myself

882
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: a reset and a break, and you know, I realized, Okay,

883
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: I have been doing all these processes, right, and I

884
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: think with a little bit of work, I can get

885
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: my mental game back into this, you know, my heart

886
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: back into this. And yeah, so I was able to

887
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: overcome that, and I think in any quad it's hard.

888
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, four years is a long time to focus

889
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: on one event, and you're gonna have ups and downs.

890
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: And when people look at my career, they only talk

891
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: about I had this big winning streak, and it seems,

892
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, I was world champion and like the two

893
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: years leading up to the Olympics, and people only see

894
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: those positives and they forget like, oh, well, one of

895
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: the years for the World Championship, I was supposed to

896
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: be world champion and I crashed out and didn't finish

897
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: and ended up getting like fifth in the series. And

898
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: there's just these negative times where you know, I wanted

899
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: to quit and I wasn't, you know, really invested in it,

900
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: and you have these ups and downs, and I think

901
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: it's important to know that, especially I guess right now

902
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm comparing it to my running career, and it's frustrating

903
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: because I expect so much of myself because I have

904
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: been an Olympic gold medalist, like I've been the best,

905
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: and so I'm comparing myself to that, and it's really

906
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: easy to forget all those negative and all those hard

907
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: times and all those times when you didn't win, because

908
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: even in the media, I think people remember the good

909
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: and they don't necessarily remember those hard times.

910
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Speaker 2: Than what in all of this difficulty, throughout all of

954
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: these hurdles, what is the thread that keeps you going

955
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: forward and keeps you positive.

956
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: There's a few things, I think, you know. One is

957
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: just the journaling I started when I started with my

958
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: uh trathlon coach in twenty thirteen, which was just writing

959
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: three positive things a day. And there are days when

960
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: I write like I drink enough water today, Like it's

961
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: like the most ridiculous positive thing, because I'm just like

962
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: in a bad mood and don't want to write something positive.

963
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: But I look back at these journals when I'm struggling,

964
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: and it gives me so much confidence knowing that every

965
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: day I'm working towards my bigger goal. And I think

966
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: what keeps me motivated is wanting to find my best.

967
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: So you know, a big reason why I quit Traflon

968
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: and started running was because I haven't found my potential

969
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: in running. I felt like I found my potential in Traflon,

970
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: And for me, something that's really motivating is knowing I

971
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: haven't reached my potential and I want to see what

972
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: is there inside of me, Like how good can I

973
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: how fast can I run? And I think the challenge

974
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: of like having to overcome those hurdles, having to overcome

975
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: them times when mentally you're not motivated, or mentally you

976
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: feel like you can't do it, or physically you know

977
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: it's really hot out and you're just like, oh my gosh,

978
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like my legs are two thousand pounds.

979
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: And those are the times that I think really motivate

980
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: me because I think I just want to know, like

981
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: can I do this for sure?

982
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: And I think I mean, obviously, the big takeaway often

983
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: is that we learn more from these hurdles and these

984
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: quote unquote failures than we might win from our victories.

985
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 3: But I'm curious to know now.

986
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: As we segue into chatting about the twenty sixteen Olympics,

987
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: which was such a huge moment in your career, what

988
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: did you take away from that big victorious experience.

989
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: I took away a lot. I think my biggest takeaway

990
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: is that I could never do this on my own.

991
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: I had such a big support system, and I had

992
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: people that believed in me before I believed in myself.

993
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: I had my husband who was basically gave up everything

994
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: to support me, my coach who has invested, my teammates,

995
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I think, like, you can't do this

996
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: on your own. And I think I also realized, you know,

997
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: it's so incredibly hard to focus for four years on

998
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: one day, one event, and that one day comes and

999
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: it's like, what is the likelihood that that day's going

1000
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: to come and you're going to feel amazing? Like, yeah,

1001
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: you kind of like you can taper and you can

1002
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: like do these things to hopefully like make your body

1003
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: feel good. But the likelihood of you waking up on

1004
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: race day at the Olympics and feeling amazing is very low.

1005
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: You're probably going to be stressed. Everything's different, everything's new.

1006
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: You've been focusing on it for so long, and I

1007
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: think being able to overcome that and to perform on

1008
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: one day that's been like on the calendar for four

1009
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: years it's just so incredibly difficult. And I think I

1010
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: learned that I can stand up to these big challenges

1011
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: and I know how to mentally get on my game,

1012
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: and knowing that I have people supporting me and that

1013
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: I can rely on is something that can really be

1014
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: It's what makes a successful team is making it a

1015
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: team and not just about yourself.

1016
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: Right, And so when you're on the podium or when

1017
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: you cross the finish line, talk to me about what

1018
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: you remember from those moments.

1019
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I it's interesting. My mom's actually writing

1020
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: a book about me for like middle school, like an

1021
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: autobiography for middle schoolers, and she just had this conversation

1022
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: with me, and she really wanted me to say more.

1023
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: But for me, all I remember is like I crossed

1024
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: the finish line. I was in tears. I was just

1025
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: brawling and I like never cry at the end of

1026
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: a race. And I think for me it was I

1027
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: was holding it together for four years and finally I

1028
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, I did it. I can

1029
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: just let everything go. It was this huge, just like

1030
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: cry of relief that I had done it. And all

1031
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: I remember is I just wanted to see Patrick, my husband,

1032
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: and my coach Jamie, and I couldn't like get to

1033
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: them because there's so much security. And I remember I

1034
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: saw my coach Jamie and I was like, I'm going

1035
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: over there, and the race officials are like, you have

1036
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: to stay here, you can't move, and I just remember

1037
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: I just was like, I want a hug. I want

1038
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: to like thank the people that have helped me, Like

1039
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: just just let me like see my people, like I

1040
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: just did it. Let me do like what I want

1041
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: to do. I just want to give a hug, Like

1042
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: what's the big deal. And so all I remember from

1043
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: those moments is like just wanting to be with Patrick

1044
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: and my coach and just celebrate with them because they

1045
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: were the ones that got me there. And that's how

1046
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: I felt on the metal ceremony as well. That's how

1047
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: I felt doing my interviews, as like I just want

1048
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Pat and Jamie.

1049
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: And I think it's interesting what you said about, you know,

1050
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: waking up and that day could be can go so

1051
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: many different ways, and it's really this bigger idea that

1052
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: the journey is so important because if you put all

1053
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: of your emphasis on that one day on the calendar,

1054
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: then you almost could miss out.

1055
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: Really if you're not paying attention to all the other stuff.

1056
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And I think, you know, race day

1057
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: for me, it was interesting. I actually am normally nervous,

1058
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: and looking back, I'm like, oh man, I should have

1059
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: been even more nervous, because I wasn't nervous. I remember

1060
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Pat and I were so relaxed. We just felt like,

1061
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: you know what, we did everything we could these past

1062
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: four years, and what's going to happen is going to happen.

1063
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: And it was just interesting because the I was so

1064
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: much more nervous for the twenty sixteen Olympic trials, Like

1065
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 1: my biggest fear was I won't even make the team

1066
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: and I won't even have a s to get a medal,

1067
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: and I remember being so so nervous, and then the

1068
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: actual day of the Olympics, I was just relaxed. I

1069
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: was like, well, it'll be what it'll be like, get

1070
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: a flat, I don't know, I don't care, like I

1071
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: have the tools in my toolbox to do this. And

1072
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: so it's just like an interesting thing that that day

1073
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: of the Olympics for me. And actually there's this photo

1074
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: of me on the bike in the race and I

1075
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: everyone's like, has this suffering face on and I have

1076
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: this huge smile and I'm like, oh man, looking back

1077
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: at the photo, I was like, I was so cocky.

1078
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: That is so bad, like something could have happened, like,

1079
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: but I was just like happy. I was like, you

1080
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: know what, I feel strong, I can do this. I'm prepared,

1081
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: and it brought a smile to my face. And that

1082
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: that's something that I think I'll never forget.

1083
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: It's this mentality that I try to I try a

1084
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: solid attempt every day to wake up and just say

1085
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: to myself, like, well.

1086
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: All it takes this all you've got, So that's all

1087
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: you can do here.

1088
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And I think, like you said, it's it's

1089
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: really hard, and I rarely have days like that, but

1090
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: somehow I just had that on that Olympic day.

1091
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: When they hit like that, it's it's extra special. Okay.

1092
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: So then you mentioned your transition into running and how

1093
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: it feels like you're in the pursuit of finding out

1094
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: just how good you can be at it. You had

1095
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: to make a pretty tough decision earlier in the year

1096
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: when you decided not to go through with the marathon trial.

1097
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: So talk to me about that decision and how that

1098
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: really weighed on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I I'm somebody who sets big goals

1100
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: and I'm very vocal about them. And I had said

1101
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to win gold in the marathon in twenty twenty.

1102
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: And I like saying goals out loud because I think

1103
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: it holds not only myself accountable, but my team. It

1104
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: lets my team know, my coaches, the people that are

1105
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: investing in me what I want to do, and it

1106
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: helps them achieve my goals. And it also keeps me

1107
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: just accountable. Like if I say it, I have to basically,

1108
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, every day I'm motivated to do it because

1109
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: it's out there in the universe. And when I made

1110
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: my transition from trothlon to running, it was it's been

1111
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: really hard. I had a son, which I knew I

1112
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: always wanted to do, was have a family, But coming

1113
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: back from that giving birth was way more difficult than

1114
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought I'd be able to run like

1115
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: seven days later, but anyone who's had a kid just

1116
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: knows that's like impossible. And then I had this Hagelund's

1117
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: deformity and I had to have surgery for it. I

1118
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: tried to run through it for a long time and

1119
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: I was able to hit all the workouts, due all

1120
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 1: the mileage, but my quality of life and I think

1121
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: my running, you know, I was operating on run level.

1122
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: I would say at like eighty to ninety percent, and

1123
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: I just knew, like I need to be at one

1124
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: hundred percent if I'm going to make the team and

1125
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to go after a medal. And so I

1126
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: had surgery, and just coming back from surgery is when

1127
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: I think I was super smart. I was like, Okay,

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00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: I put time into the surgery. I'm not going to

1129
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: look at the calendar. I'm not going to look at races.

1130
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to plan out. You know.

1131
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: Normally it's like, okay, Olympic trials for the marathon, it's

1132
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: in February, so four months back, that's when I need

1133
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: to be training. So I need to be fit a

1134
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: month before, like normally, that's how my mentality works. And

1135
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: after surgery, I was like, Nope, not looking at a calendar,

1136
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: not looking at how many weeks I have. I'm just

1137
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: going to listen to my body. Is that as a

1138
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: pro athlete, you know your body really well, and I'm

1139
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: going to, you know, let it recover in its own time.

1140
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: So I did that and then, you know, it was

1141
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: like three months out from the Olympic Trials and I

1142
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: just realized, you know, I won't be able to be

1143
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: running these one hundred and twenty mile weeks which I'll

1144
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: need to make the team and the marathon, and I

1145
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: don't want to go into the marathon trials hoping that

1146
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: I qualify. I want to go into an Olympic trials

1147
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: knowing I have the ability to qualify. And so it

1148
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: was kind of an easy decision in that regard. You know,

1149
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm really and I think because I have so much

1150
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: confidence in my in myself and I don't worry about

1151
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: what other people think of me, it was a pretty

1152
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: easy decision to just go, you know what, I don't

1153
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: want to hope and wish. I want to know, and

1154
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: so I'm going to forego doing the marathon Olympic trials.

1155
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: And you know, my coach Jerry in the Bronment track field,

1156
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: they actually think I'm better on the track anyway. And

1157
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: so having that belief and having that support was something

1158
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: that made it an easy decision. You know. Obviously it

1159
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: was really difficult to then have to publicly say, oh,

1160
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: I put this big goal out there not going to

1161
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: do it, not even going to try to do it.

1162
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: But for me, it was an easy decision knowing that

1163
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: I am becoming a better athlete doing this route and

1164
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: that this is what's best for my health.

1165
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: And I think what you were saying, I'm the same

1166
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 2: way about putting out big goals. It's like saying it

1167
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: makes you accountable kind of puts you into this atmosphere.

1168
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: It's in the world, there's no taking it back. I

1169
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: would imagine for sure that having to say that, despite

1170
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: your decision being easy to be made, was definitely a

1171
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: struggle for you.

1172
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, like it's weird, Like it almost

1173
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: was freeing in the sense that I knew that I

1174
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be prepared, so it was just like, Okay,

1175
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: I can't do this. And you know, we talked about

1176
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: earlier a little bit about how everyone has negative things

1177
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: to say, and especially in social media world, and so

1178
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, I just I'm really good at not letting

1179
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: what other people say affect me. Well except for this

1180
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: one area. When people start attacking my son. Oh, I'm like,

1181
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: I need to learn how to somehow not let that

1182
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: affect me. But when people attack me, I'm totally cool

1183
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: with it. I'm like, you know what, I know, I'm

1184
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: doing my best. I know I'm doing what's best for me,

1185
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: And so it actually wasn't that difficult for me. I

1186
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: think it was, you know, more difficult for me to

1187
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: make the decision to have surgery, which was way more necessary, just.

1188
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: To recap what is a Hanglu's deform?

1189
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: Me?

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: Yep. So it's a bone overgrowth or a bone spur

1191
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: basically on your heel, and it grows and it becomes

1192
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: super painful, so like it makes your makes it hard

1193
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: to walk. It the bone rubs against your achilles, like

1194
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: every time you take a step. So then it like

1195
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: it's basically this sword just cutting into your achilles and

1196
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: having damage. And so that's it affects your achilles. And

1197
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: then as well, it's super tender to the touch, like

1198
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: putting a sock on and putting a sock and taking

1199
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: a sock off was painful. Like that's how sensitive it's

1200
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: sensitive it can get to the touch.

1201
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: And how is it now post surgery?

1202
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: Oh so good, just to be able to run without pain.

1203
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,479
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I had been running with pain

1204
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: for so long that I then I forgot what it

1205
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: was like, and it's just so much more enjoyable.

1206
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: Which is so good, So speaking is enjoyable.

1207
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, talk to me about how it's been to

1208
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: be training with Barrelman.

1209
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: I feel so fortunate that I am able to train

1210
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: with the Bowerman Track Club. You know, there I believe

1211
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: the best in the world. You know, Jerry's uh, you know,

1212
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: he's an extremely talented coach. He's I like to think

1213
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: of him as like a mad scientist, but he always

1214
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: has things going on in his head of like how

1215
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: to improve and you know, it's a very clean coach

1216
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: as well, which is something that I was looking for.

1217
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: But I'm running with the best runners in the world,

1218
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: and it's it's difficult at times, but it's what I

1219
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: like is being confronted with this world standard on a

1220
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: daily basis. You know. This last year with COVID, we

1221
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: did some inner squad racing, so just our squad, and

1222
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: we ended up doing some shorter races. So I'm you know,

1223
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: racing the Shelby Hulahan who's a world champion in the

1224
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred, and I'm like, nowhere near a sprinter and

1225
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: we're like racing eight hundreds and I'm like, oh, my goodness,

1226
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: this is just like embarrassing and it's so bad because

1227
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not a sprinter. She is, and it's

1228
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: just those times can sometimes just be like almost comical.

1229
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: But for me, every day being in practice, knowing that

1230
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm pushing myself against the world's best, against the world's standard,

1231
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: that's something that I want and something I need in

1232
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: order to become my best athlete. I think it's difficult

1233
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: for a lot of people to put themselves in those situations,

1234
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: especially if you're not at that level, like trying to

1235
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: build yourself up to that level. You can feel like

1236
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: maybe you're getting worn down. But honestly, for me, it's

1237
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: what I enjoy. I love working up on workout days

1238
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: and trying to just put the hammer down. And this

1239
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: is the first year I would say I've been able

1240
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: to you know, really, I've been able to hold on

1241
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: in the past, but this is the first year I've

1242
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: been able to push others as well, which has been

1243
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: super exciting for me.

1244
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: What excites you right now?

1245
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: Ugh, just I love running. I love my job so much.

1246
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: And me, what's exciting for me is knowing I can

1247
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: still go prs. I haven't even come close to my prs.

1248
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: I believe in the running events and that's what really

1249
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: keeps me motivated. And and then as well, my son

1250
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: obviously makes me super excited. He's super cute, he's he's

1251
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of personality like me. He's very stubborn

1252
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: and strong willed, and you know, he does things like

1253
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: he'll you know, we got him a harmonica and he

1254
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: opened it and he went in a different room to

1255
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: practice before coming out to show us, because yes, he

1256
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: wanted to like do it perfectly for us before, you know,

1257
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: and he wanted to like test out before. So it

1258
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I love little things like that.

1259
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: And just being able to watch a human grow and

1260
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: mature and change.

1261
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 3: Biggest lesson you have learned in this training cycle, I.

1262
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: Think, to be patient. And then as well, this is

1263
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: the first time I've had an injury, and so just

1264
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: learning how to overcome that injury, I think a lot

1265
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: of times it's just yeah, I've never had like a

1266
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: bigger injury before. So learning how to overcome that and

1267
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: to listen to my body maybe earlier and give myself

1268
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 1: the time and space it needs to heal, I think

1269
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: was something that was super important.

1270
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: Someone goes to your Instagram page, they see a mom,

1271
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: a wife, a twenty sixteen Olympic gold medalist. When you

1272
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,479
Speaker 2: look in the mirror, what is it that you see

1273
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: looking back at you.

1274
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: I just I see a mom. You know, I've my

1275
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: entire life, I've wanted to be a mom, and Patrick

1276
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: and I want we want to have a big family

1277
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: and can't have another kid now obviously, but in the future.

1278
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: I think that's that's what we want. And I think

1279
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: just being a mom encompasses so much to me. It's

1280
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, you're a role model for this little human

1281
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: and they repeat and emulate like everything you do. And

1282
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: so that's who I see and what I see, and

1283
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: I think what motivates me to be a better person

1284
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: and to be a better athlete as well.

1285
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: Right now, you have an opportunity to look back on

1286
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: your career thus far as an athlete and give yourself

1287
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: some advice. When we think back to some of your

1288
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 2: biggest hurdle moments, maybe it's finally making a decision to

1289
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 2: get that surgery, or perhaps it's back when you were

1290
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: training for that twenty sixteen Olympics and had those few

1291
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,520
Speaker 2: that string of tough events, when you have the opportunity

1292
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: to offer yourself one piece of advice. Looking back on

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Speaker 2: those hurdle moments, right now, what do you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: It's such a hard question, right and there's not just

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Speaker 1: one answer. But I think, you know, focusing on the

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Speaker 1: process is something that's super important. That's taught me a lot,

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Speaker 1: and not just focusing on that outcome. And I think

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Speaker 1: that encompasses as well, putting yourself worth in yourself as

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Speaker 1: a human being and not as an athlete. It is

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Speaker 1: something that I think allows me to overcome hurdles knowing

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Speaker 1: that I'm more than just an athlete. So it allowed

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Speaker 1: me to have the belief in having surgery. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's always this risk when you have surgery that you

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Speaker 1: may never come back as an athlete. But I knew

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Speaker 1: I needed it to be my best athlete. So it's

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Speaker 1: allowed me to take risks. It's allowed me as well,

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Speaker 1: during those tough times, to realize I have a support crew,

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Speaker 1: I have people in my life, and I'm more than

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Speaker 1: just an athlete. You know, a lot of times when

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Speaker 1: I come home from Irun or in Trothlin, when I

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Speaker 1: come home from workouts, I don't talk about the workouts

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Speaker 1: or about sport with my husband, and it's super easy

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Speaker 1: now that I have Stanley, Like he doesn't care what

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Speaker 1: I did in a workout, so like I come home

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Speaker 1: and I play Superheroes where you have a game you

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Speaker 1: play Hi Ho, Cherio or whatever it is. And I

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Speaker 1: think having something outside of sport really allows me to

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Speaker 1: overcome those hurdles.

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Speaker 3: What a great takeaway.

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Speaker 2: Last thing, I do want to ask you book that

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Speaker 2: you can recommend to me because the Hurdle Squad just

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Speaker 2: started a book club or reading mindset by Carol Dweck

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Speaker 2: right now and we're in the home stretch.

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Speaker 3: So what should our next book club pick be?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a couple, so I really

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Speaker 1: if you like like science stuff. I really liked the

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Speaker 1: book Endure, okay, and then I really liked Andre Agacy's book.

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Speaker 1: I think it was called Open.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like the way your voice went up,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you like turned around to look for

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Speaker 2: a book.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 3: I knew it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting next to mine as well, so I heard

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Speaker 2: the I was like, she's totally looking for the book.

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Speaker 3: Okay, these are picks.

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Speaker 1: There one more though, because Bauermann Track Club our ladies

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Speaker 1: just started a book club and this month it like

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Speaker 1: just started two days ago, so I didn't even have

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Speaker 1: the book yet, but we're reading The Mamba Mentality.

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Speaker 3: Oh maybe that'll be the next Hurdle book club pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Wow, thanks for therek. Thanks so much for your time today, Gwen.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much for having me. It's been

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Speaker 1: The hour went by very quickly, so hopefully people enjoyed

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Speaker 1: listening as much as I like talking.

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Speaker 3: Just as speedy as you.

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Speaker 2: Please take a moment and leave a quick review by

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Speaker 2: clicking the link with the description to this episode.

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Speaker 3: We all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to

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Speaker 3: hear about yours.

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Speaker 2: Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle dot us,

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Speaker 2: connect with the pod on Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Gwen, how do they keep up with you? Give me

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Speaker 3: the details?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Emily, I actually have a great YouTube that

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Speaker 1: we've started YouTube channel, so you can follow along there

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Speaker 1: to just kind of see like behind the scenes stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's just Gwen Jorgenson. And then as well Instagram, Facebook

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Speaker 1: and Twitter is at Gwen Jorgenson as well.

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Speaker 2: Perfect I am at Emily a body at Hurdle Podcast,

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Speaker 2: Another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next

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Speaker 1: Time to to my al