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Speaker 2: Now here's Bobby and that. I feel like people judge
Speaker 2: me when they come to my house and the studio
Speaker 2: is at my house, but it's not in the house,
Speaker 2: it's a building on the property behind the house. Like,
Speaker 2: but when you pulled up, there's a massive Amazon box
Speaker 2: right on the front porch, And then I feel like
Speaker 2: if there's a box or two boxes, people just judge
Speaker 2: you for uh not being detail oriented. So did you
Speaker 2: at all think, man, what a slob that guy is
Speaker 2: because he has Amazon boxes on his front porch when
Speaker 2: you drove up there was scattered all over the place.
Speaker 3: No, because at the end of the day, I have
Speaker 3: more box random boxes show up to my house on
Speaker 3: a weekly basis that I haven't ordered any of those things,
Speaker 3: so I don't even know what kind of boxes. There's
Speaker 3: usually three or four boxes at my gate per day.
Speaker 3: We've got five kids, too.
Speaker 2: So who has access to the ordering My wife.
Speaker 3: Definitely, I have access to ordering, but I really randomly
Speaker 3: will use Amazon just for simple things. I need razors.
Speaker 3: I can't get the store boom, I'm going to order
Speaker 3: it package up with something. But I mean, we have
Speaker 3: shoes that come to the house, socks. This week we
Speaker 3: had new sheets for the bed. Somehow the bed ripped
Speaker 3: the sheet. I think I don't know how. It wasn't
Speaker 3: any activity that I was doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so many kids. I was going to guess how.
Speaker 2: But okay, if you're saying that, when.
Speaker 3: You figured out how that happens. So I went and
Speaker 3: saw the doctor about it. Actually, I saw the veterinarian.
Speaker 3: I got a two for one deal with my dog nice.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I wondered. But with your family, how
Speaker 2: old did a kid or does a kid need to
Speaker 2: be to have access to the Amazon.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's no chance I'd ever give my kids access.
Speaker 2: Oh none of them have open Amazon.
Speaker 3: Oh are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 3: My It's random? Like we'd have seeds show up and
Speaker 3: I'm what I'm talking about is like the baseball seeds
Speaker 3: my kids are obsessed with. My boys are baseball seeds.
Speaker 3: But the most random stuff that they go on Amazon
Speaker 3: like can I get this? Can I get that? I
Speaker 3: was like, no, you don't need any of this stuff.
Speaker 3: No access a disaster. Yes.
Speaker 2: I pulled up recent things I bought online. Random. I
Speaker 2: bought Alpha Momentous Alpha GPS supplement, fantastic.
Speaker 3: It sounds great. Any anything that has alpha in it's winning.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I mean it's number one.
Speaker 3: Have you taken it yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And it sounds like it's something you
Speaker 2: used for like your sexual drive. It's not. It's for
Speaker 2: like cognitive right health? No, yeah, I just everybody knows.
Speaker 3: Is that the Joe Rogan thing?
Speaker 2: No, it's not that alpha brain. It's probably something similar. Ish.
Speaker 2: I bought a thirty pound bag of marshmallows of Lucky Charms, Marshmallows,
Speaker 2: thirty pounds. It's a massive bag. And now on my
Speaker 2: radio show tried to I offered somebody fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 2: to eat the whole bag in four hours.
Speaker 3: Were they able to even?
Speaker 2: Nobody?
Speaker 3: I mean thirty pounds of much, I mean, what is it?
Speaker 2: Marshmallows likey toms marshmallows that to cinigrate though we're not
Speaker 2: talking about Chewie marshmallows.
Speaker 3: I know, but still that's thirty pounds worth it. That's
Speaker 3: pretty intense.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, but that's why I offered himifteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: I wanted somebody to at least try it, and nobody did.
Speaker 2: And then finally I have a bought pickleballs. I bought
Speaker 2: sixteen new pickleballs. That's my recent random ordering. What do
Speaker 2: you have randomly?
Speaker 3: What did you buy here randomly? You know, like sometimes
Speaker 3: you're scrolling on the Twitter and stuff and these ads
Speaker 3: will come up. So recently I bought a three D printer.
Speaker 3: I've known way and so you know they've got the
Speaker 3: mid line one. And then I was like, you know
Speaker 3: what mid line? Okay, I'm going.
Speaker 2: To get the big dog question about a three D
Speaker 2: printer with you. What did you want to print? Because
Speaker 2: that sounds super cool and I see like toys and
Speaker 2: medical supplies. But when you see that, you think I'd
Speaker 2: like to have that because.
Speaker 3: Blank, Honestly, a guy came over to my house was
Speaker 3: working on my television, said he got a three D
Speaker 3: printer and he was saying, yeah, we make everything from
Speaker 3: vases to these little pots. He said, We've got all
Speaker 3: these little toys. That we can make for the kids.
Speaker 3: In addition to that, they'll make anything from like a scraper,
Speaker 3: a paint scraper to I don't know, I mean to honestly,
Speaker 3: he sold me on it, so I was like, this
Speaker 3: sounds rad so I went on.
Speaker 2: So it came up though, because your phone heard it, Yes,
Speaker 2: it must have heard it first. Yeah, because I don't
Speaker 2: get ads for three D printers, right, got it?
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: So I went on.
Speaker 3: I purchased this, and of course I'm thinking it's like
Speaker 3: a smaller version. It's as big as that track man like.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's stereosis three feet tall.
Speaker 3: It's massive. I was like, oops, I don't know where
Speaker 3: to put this right here, but it is.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. But okay, have you used it?
Speaker 3: Well, I won't hook up to my phone and through
Speaker 3: the bluetooth.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. How can you get because it's.
Speaker 3: Already got pre programmed things that you can go in
Speaker 3: and actually three D print. So my kids have printed
Speaker 3: out like these puzzles.
Speaker 2: So it Oh, you've used it. It's worked.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. Wow, it's within thirty minutes it printed. It
Speaker 3: was able to three D print this whole jewelry box.
Speaker 3: For my daughter that was pre input it into the system.
Speaker 2: What do you put in as okay, we'll call it
Speaker 2: the paper. What do you put in? There's no paper? No, no,
Speaker 2: but let's say you have to put in paper to
Speaker 2: get paper printed out. What do you put in that
Speaker 2: would be the same as paper into a normal printer?
Speaker 2: Is it like a chemical?
Speaker 3: What is it? So?
Speaker 2: It is this?
Speaker 3: It looks like a plastic and it looks like, honestly,
Speaker 3: a really big fishing line. And they've got these different
Speaker 3: compartments up there with different colors, and then you put
Speaker 3: it into this little little area right here that sucks
Speaker 3: it down in and then as you print, it uses
Speaker 3: the different coloring system and just goes takes literally thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: It prints anything, and it's remarkable and sturdy. It's fascinating.
Speaker 2: That's legit over five hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: I think it was around six fifty. I can't believe
Speaker 3: I bought a three D print for the first time
Speaker 3: for six hundred and fifty bucks. But then you also
Speaker 3: have to get, you know, the accessories that go along
Speaker 3: with it. But it was It's blew my mind. The
Speaker 3: kids have been using it at school for some time,
Speaker 3: which kind of drew my interest to it.
Speaker 2: What do you mean using it as school?
Speaker 3: So they one of their science classes, they go in
Speaker 3: and they're able to three D print. For instance, my
Speaker 3: daughter was there and they had to put together a
Speaker 3: business concept. Hers was a new type of shoe, so
Speaker 3: she did a three D print of a shoe that
Speaker 3: she designed for her business model.
Speaker 2: That's that's so legit.
Speaker 3: And it looks like a legit shoe, like a high top,
Speaker 3: and had the design and all that. So it's it
Speaker 3: was pretty cool like that. So I've seen components of it,
Speaker 3: but never actually use it until now.
Speaker 2: I just ordered one. Yeah, in that conversation, I just
Speaker 2: ordered one. What else you got?
Speaker 3: Oh? So I like to shoot a little bit, but
Speaker 3: I haven't been shooting for a long time. Of course,
Speaker 3: this you know, full metal thing that swings back and forth.
Speaker 3: I ordered one off of Twitter.
Speaker 2: A full metal thing like that throws skin. No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I've already got that.
Speaker 3: It's actually target shooting, so it throws the targets. No,
Speaker 3: it's it just as a standalone target, but when you
Speaker 3: shoot one side, it swings the other side so you
Speaker 3: can keep shooting. And it's got six different targets. I
Speaker 3: forgot completely that even ordered this thing, and of course
Speaker 3: it shows up to my house. I'm like, what is
Speaker 3: this hunk a metal? And I open it up. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, I got a shooting range at
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 2: Now have you taken it out?
Speaker 3: Not at all?
Speaker 2: Have you hit a three D printed one of those though,
Speaker 2: and not even buying?
Speaker 3: I know I thought about that. Now Now I'm pretty
Speaker 3: upset with myself, but pretty stoked. It's just gonna get
Speaker 3: out to work some more.
Speaker 2: Your stuff's way more random than mine.
Speaker 3: It's so random.
Speaker 2: Mine's like nutrients and pickleballs. Yours is like a three
Speaker 2: D printer for jewelry boxes and a way to shoot
Speaker 2: away your anxiety. So the NFL is weird right now
Speaker 2: because it's at a very boring time and they do
Speaker 2: a great job of keeping it active all year, but
Speaker 2: this is even the boring time pre draft, meaning everybody's
Speaker 2: falling into kind of their slots we think they are,
Speaker 2: we don't really know. We know cam Ward is going
Speaker 2: to go one of the Titans because they said we're
Speaker 2: not even gonna watch Shre right right, So they're not
Speaker 2: going to go Sugar, They're not gonna go Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2: So the Titans are at one unless they trade it.
Speaker 2: We know that's the deal. And I think what's exciting
Speaker 2: about the draft is we kind of don't know. Travis
Speaker 2: Hunter's odds have popped up to number two the betting odds, right,
Speaker 2: But now there's really not much to talk about until
Speaker 2: the draft, and I'm watching Shuter's pro day and now
Speaker 2: because there's nothing to talk about, you have to find
Speaker 2: things to talk about. And the big debate is how
Speaker 2: he pats the ball, of course, so why is it
Speaker 2: bad that someone pats the ball.
Speaker 3: A lot of people will make the argument that if
Speaker 3: you pat the ball, you give that defensive back and
Speaker 3: extra beat because they know that you're about to throw right,
Speaker 3: so you pat the ball. But honestly, I think it's
Speaker 3: an overrated quality that people look at sometimes because everybody
Speaker 3: has their throwing emotion. It's sometimes just naturally part of
Speaker 3: their throwing emotion. He still has a quick release as
Speaker 3: long as the ball's out on time, and a lot
Speaker 3: of times, look if it's man to man defense, that
Speaker 3: defensive back's not looking at you anyway. And then in
Speaker 3: addition to that, in terms of zone, you're always going
Speaker 3: through your progression and going through your read and you
Speaker 3: have to deliver the ball on time and with accuracy. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're staring down a wide receiver when it's zone defense,
Speaker 3: then you're already giving your tail right.
Speaker 2: You've got to be good with your eyes.
Speaker 3: You have to manipulate the defense, particularly the second level
Speaker 3: of defense. And when I say that, I mean linebackers
Speaker 3: to move them off spots in zone. When it's a
Speaker 3: man demand. You just have to throw the ball accurately,
Speaker 3: have your guy go up and get the ball, or
Speaker 3: it's all about the timing. So if you throw with
Speaker 3: anticipation timing, I think that that's more important than anything else,
Speaker 3: because when you watch his footwork, he's got really good footwork.
Speaker 3: He's always got a solid foundation. He throws off of
Speaker 3: a really good platform, So that's more important to me.
Speaker 3: And then it's the high level processing. Can you process
Speaker 3: the game quickly? Can you get through your reads? Can
Speaker 3: you make the appropriate checks at the right time. That's
Speaker 3: what makes a really good quarterback. It's not always about
Speaker 3: patting the ball. I used to pat the ball all
Speaker 3: the time, but that's probably why I was on seven teams.
Speaker 2: Was it ever an issue with a quick I say,
Speaker 2: a three step drop and you're just looking to get
Speaker 2: rid of the ball fast. I wonder if you're a
Speaker 2: pat or do you still pad it quickly or can
Speaker 2: that actually slow down? If it's a quick three step
Speaker 2: drop and throw, would that slow it down?
Speaker 3: I think it's all about your delivery itself. Some guys
Speaker 3: have elongated deliveries. So you remember Brian Leftwich. He honestly
Speaker 3: looked like he was throwing a baseball at times. And
Speaker 3: then you got guys that have really compact, short deliveries
Speaker 3: and they might pat the ball, but it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: because that ball's coming out even on three step drops.
Speaker 3: If that's kind of part of your routine and how
Speaker 3: you throw the football, you're gonna pat that ball just
Speaker 3: because you're not even thinking about it. Right. It's something
Speaker 3: that's muscle memory that you've been doing it forever. Now
Speaker 3: you can work on it, and you'd always try to
Speaker 3: because coach would say, don't pat the ball, don't do this.
Speaker 3: But more importantly, it was about, well, am I throwing
Speaker 3: the ball on time? Is it coming on my hand
Speaker 3: or is it actually slowing down the ball getting there
Speaker 3: because it's taking too long for that to happen because
Speaker 3: you're patting the ball.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of patting the ball being so negative
Speaker 2: so many times as the last couple of days, because
Speaker 2: this is kind of the down period of even within
Speaker 2: the draft, so they're picking apart everything. Were there any
Speaker 2: ticks that were found about you that maybe you even
Speaker 2: developed while you were a pro, that either you saw
Speaker 2: or someone else saw that you had to change.
Speaker 3: I constantly had to work on overstriding because I had
Speaker 3: a baseball background. Baseball's such a different motion, particularly for pitchers.
Speaker 3: Right you're coming off a small mound, You're striding out,
Speaker 3: and your stride length is going down that mound, and
Speaker 3: so you and also the motion of your arm. So
Speaker 3: there was times that I would get too far spread
Speaker 3: out and get out on my front foot, and that
Speaker 3: was just something I naturally was able to overcome and
Speaker 3: play with throughout my career. However, when you'd see it,
Speaker 3: either were constantly working on that in the off season.
Speaker 3: In addition to that, it was ball security in the
Speaker 3: pocket or when you become a because a lot of
Speaker 3: times quarterbacks, particularly back in my time, and it's not
Speaker 3: even that long ago, when you take off running, you
Speaker 3: were running because you had to. It's not because you
Speaker 3: wanted to, and so ball security you'd get loose and
Speaker 3: you're just not used to carrying the ball like that.
Speaker 3: And then inside the pocket itself, something that was always
Speaker 3: harped on for anybody that's working in the pocket is
Speaker 3: two hands on the pocket, in the pocket on the ball,
Speaker 3: because a lot of times what happens is we get
Speaker 3: lazy and you'll see your off hand kind of come
Speaker 3: off the ball and that's when strip sacks happen and
Speaker 3: bad things happen.
Speaker 2: Would you know that or would someone have to watch
Speaker 2: and tell you things like your offhand is off the ball.
Speaker 3: I could recognize it, but there were times when coaches
Speaker 3: would come and be like, cash, we got to get
Speaker 3: that hand, and it was just once again, it could
Speaker 3: be a clean game. But there was multiple times in
Speaker 3: that game where I took that offhand off the ball
Speaker 3: in the pocket, which a guy got close and I
Speaker 3: was lucky enough to get it, or a strip sack
Speaker 3: did occur because I was being lazy with my ball
Speaker 3: security in the pocket. Some of the guys that do
Speaker 3: it the best, I meant Stafford I played with him
Speaker 3: in Detroit. He was fundamentally so sound, but he would
Speaker 3: have two hands on the ball in the pocket all
Speaker 3: the time, and it's something that we drilled constantly.
Speaker 2: Is there any chance that would slow down the delivery?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: If you're locked down with two hands, even fractionally, you're
Speaker 2: holding a two where if one hand is off, I
Speaker 2: feel like you can you know, pull back and release
Speaker 2: quicker or is it so fractional it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: It's very fractional. But at the same time, it goes
Speaker 3: back to the padding part. And that's why I think
Speaker 3: people sometimes make a big deal out of it, is
Speaker 3: if you naturally pat the ball, sometimes that offhand is
Speaker 3: usually just in a comfortable position near the ball because
Speaker 3: you're getting ready to start your delivery versus having it there,
Speaker 3: and it's almost like you're pushing that offhand with the
Speaker 3: ball back to start that delivery instead of padding.
Speaker 2: I'm curious about self scouting. I probably a year and
Speaker 2: a half or so ago, I found a couple of
Speaker 2: people in my business and radio and I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I want you two people I respect it. I said,
Speaker 2: I want you independently they didn't know of each other,
Speaker 2: to pay you to listen to my show for two
Speaker 2: weeks straight, and I want you to develop a plan
Speaker 2: to beat me as if you were going to start
Speaker 2: a new national show. I want you to identify every
Speaker 2: weakness I have, and if I were paying you to
Speaker 2: find my vulnerabilities to take me down, I want to
Speaker 2: read that report. And so I paid two different people
Speaker 2: to do it. They didn't know of each other, and
Speaker 2: they spent two weeks listening to every second of everything
Speaker 2: that I did, and they both developed a plan to
Speaker 2: beat me. And what that allowed me to do was
Speaker 2: to see those holes and fix those holes, and a
Speaker 2: lot of the things they were actually aligned on, which
Speaker 2: was good because that meant I needed to work. And
Speaker 2: although I have a gigantic ego, because you have to
Speaker 2: have one in this business, I don't have an ego
Speaker 2: that hurts me in this business because I know I
Speaker 2: have a lot of work to do always and I'm
Speaker 2: always developing ticks that I need to work myself out of.
Speaker 2: And so that was me self scouting. That was me
Speaker 2: hiring somebody to break me down, to find my weaknesses
Speaker 2: so I could plug them up. As a player, would
Speaker 2: you ever grab film of yourself or have someone else
Speaker 2: do it to find how you could better yourself by
Speaker 2: finding how where your weaknesses were.
Speaker 3: I think that it's an ongoing process. When you have
Speaker 3: coaching staff, and even when you're going through the season,
Speaker 3: all they're ever doing is usually pointing out your weaknesses.
Speaker 3: They're really focused, hyper focused on what can you do better?
Speaker 3: How can we solve this problem? Even with our drill work,
Speaker 3: when we start throughout mini camps, going into camp, everything
Speaker 3: we go back in, We critique that film on a
Speaker 3: daily basis. We watch film in the morning, we go
Speaker 3: and watch the practice right after, so it's fresh on
Speaker 3: your mind. And every part of that is coaching and
Speaker 3: critiquing how can we get better, whether it's a footwork drill,
Speaker 3: whether it's two hands on the pocket, it could be
Speaker 3: particular reads. So you're getting instantaneous feedback almost on a
Speaker 3: daily basis. And so you do have to have thick
Speaker 3: skin because I think there's a lot of players out
Speaker 3: there that take a I mean all constructive criticism as criticism,
Speaker 3: and they go into this little hole and they're too
Speaker 3: prideful about the fact that they're not willing to understand
Speaker 3: the coaches just making a point. He's not trying to
Speaker 3: attack you personally. He's trying to make you a better player.
Speaker 3: And it might come off a little harsh at times,
Speaker 3: because when you get called out in front of a team,
Speaker 3: it is one of those moments where you look in
Speaker 3: the mirror and you go, gosh, I don't want to
Speaker 3: feel that way again, because you know you let down
Speaker 3: your team, and particularly in games. That's the hardest thing is,
Speaker 3: you know, at the quarterback position in particular, but any position,
Speaker 3: if you make a big mistake in a game that
Speaker 3: really swings the momentum and you end up losing that game,
Speaker 3: whether it's an interception because you were lazy with your read,
Speaker 3: or you didn't have ball security, whatever it might be.
Speaker 3: You missed a check at the line of scrimmage that
Speaker 3: resulted in a ten yard loss, and now you got
Speaker 3: to punt and give them an opportunity to go down
Speaker 3: and win. You're your hardish, harshest critic, and you've got
Speaker 3: to be able to deal with that, and so you
Speaker 3: take I always took that type of coaching as a
Speaker 3: way to get better, as hard as it was to
Speaker 3: swallow at times.
Speaker 2: Someone though, had to instill that in you, meaning there's
Speaker 2: an understanding at some point of the person's not trying
Speaker 2: to take me down for the sake of them going up.
Speaker 2: What they're trying to do is make me better. That's
Speaker 2: a hard place to land if you've never had that
Speaker 2: instilled into you because and also, I imagine if you've
Speaker 2: been really great your whole life, eighth grade, senior in
Speaker 2: high school, you're not getting a lot of criticism, and
Speaker 2: you get to the next level and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're being critiqued. That's probably a different tasting dose of medicine.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: And I think because of the way my career went,
Speaker 3: as you said, I was successful growing up playing sports.
Speaker 3: I was recruited by all the big time programs, got
Speaker 3: a scholarship to USC. But when I showed up at USC,
Speaker 3: I got my humble pie pretty quick. I was readschered.
Speaker 3: My first year, sat behind Carson as a backup, never
Speaker 3: really played, played some different positions, but I had to
Speaker 3: face criticism all the time, and I always felt like
Speaker 3: I was going to be the next in line, and
Speaker 3: so I had to learn how to deal with adverse see,
Speaker 3: and there was times when, quite honest with you, I
Speaker 3: would blame the coaches. You know, they're not seeing this,
Speaker 3: Oh I was. I was with the twos and everything
Speaker 3: was external. You're right, And then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: you start to realize, look, all this stuff is happening.
Speaker 3: I've got to figure out I got to take some
Speaker 3: of the shoulder to blame a little bit, understand how
Speaker 3: to make myself better and not play the blame game.
Speaker 3: And I think that was something I really started to
Speaker 3: learn in college because there was a lot of difficult
Speaker 3: days that I went through. Is particularly mentally, where I
Speaker 3: wasn't where I wanted to be, wasn't achieving what I
Speaker 3: wanted to do. I was sitting there kind of wasting away,
Speaker 3: and it was how am I going to become better today?
Speaker 3: And that's just kind of the mentality. And then I
Speaker 3: also took the ft approach, like screw it, Like I
Speaker 3: can't worry about all the rest of the stuff. All
Speaker 3: I can do is worry about myself and how I
Speaker 3: can get myself better today.
Speaker 2: I think that's the line of there's a line of
Speaker 2: quitting to being good. In that line of realizing that
Speaker 2: you can control you and that everything coming at you
Speaker 2: isn't because they're against you. That's where you go good
Speaker 2: to great when you can actually take feedback that doesn't
Speaker 2: feel good and turn it into good. Because I think
Speaker 2: we've both been in situations too where the attack is
Speaker 2: coming and you understand the attack is personal and it's
Speaker 2: not to actually make you better. It's for a reason
Speaker 2: the attacker has some sort of re But then when
Speaker 2: you can differentiate and understand that people are the people
Speaker 2: that are on your side are just trying to make
Speaker 2: you better. And this uncomfortableness is like any other uncomfortableness
Speaker 2: in life, Like if you grow, it hurts physically, mentally, emotionally,
Speaker 2: if there's any growth, it hurts if you're twelve years
Speaker 2: old and you have a growth spurt, it hurts if
Speaker 2: you read a book and you're growing emotionally, intellectually, spiritually,
Speaker 2: like that is difficult, that's time. So any growth hurts,
Speaker 2: But it's understanding the difference and who's trying to hurt
Speaker 2: you and who's allowing you to hurt so you can
Speaker 2: get better. Yes, the practicing is interesting that you bring
Speaker 2: up because listen, I tapped out high school football. We
Speaker 2: didn't film practices. When did practices start to get filmed
Speaker 2: for you? Because I feel like that would be a
Speaker 2: whole different ballgame. Like I felt I got to practice
Speaker 2: a lot harder if I knew there was a camera
Speaker 2: on right. It was.
Speaker 3: Honestly, when I got to college, they you film every
Speaker 3: single practice any in high school, No, we just filmed
Speaker 3: filmed the games, that's right. Yeah, they got the terrible
Speaker 3: footage up top top of the bleachers, and you come
Speaker 3: in the next day on Saturday morning. You got donuts
Speaker 3: laid out and you're gonna watch the film and you
Speaker 3: got to your coach is yelling at you a little bit.
Speaker 3: But then when you get to college, it kind of
Speaker 3: becomes that professional type setting. Right, They're gonna critique every
Speaker 3: single thing you do. You're gonna talk about it, you're
Speaker 3: going to diagnose it, You're going to try to learn
Speaker 3: through the film. And you can learn so much by
Speaker 3: just watching yourself on a daily basis. And the other
Speaker 3: thing that I really benefited from was watching a guy
Speaker 3: like Carson Palmer, like his mechanics, how he handled himself,
Speaker 3: his different footwork. I could watch that and then try
Speaker 3: to emulate those things as well. So when you watch
Speaker 3: somebody doing something at a really high level, I always
Speaker 3: learned a lot from that as well watching film. So
Speaker 3: even in the offseason, I'd go and watch some of
Speaker 3: the most successful quarterbacks of the previous season. What are
Speaker 3: they doing well. What routes are they completing? Why are
Speaker 3: they being successful? Is it because they're getting through the reads?
Speaker 3: Is its concepts? What might it be that I can
Speaker 3: start to apply to my game.
Speaker 2: I would ask if practice was more intense because it
Speaker 2: was always being filmed. But then I was thinking when
Speaker 2: I did a show like Dancing with the Stars and
Speaker 2: they recorded practice the entire time because they were looking
Speaker 2: for any nugget, not just in the practice, but any
Speaker 2: sort of drama, anything to make a storyline up, right,
Speaker 2: And the first like three days of practice, you're very
Speaker 2: aware there's a camera there. But then the camera's just
Speaker 2: there and you're just on with your normal life, and
Speaker 2: like I wanted to win. I strive to be better
Speaker 2: at everything I do, just about and so naturally I
Speaker 2: work very hard. But that extra camera intensity wasn't there
Speaker 2: any longer because there was a camera there. It was
Speaker 2: just what I put on me.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: My assumption is that is a bit how practice feels
Speaker 2: if it's being recorded. At first, you're like, oh, I
Speaker 2: got to be so precise a practice, and then either
Speaker 2: you're a precise person or you're not. You kind of
Speaker 2: forget that the camera is there, right, it's just.
Speaker 3: It's naturally what happens at the NFL practice, I mean
Speaker 3: college NFL practices as they film it, and so you
Speaker 3: just get used to that routine. Is you know that
Speaker 3: it's just another tool, another mechanism for them to use
Speaker 3: to go back evaluate you. You can evaluate yourself. And
Speaker 3: we spend so much time watching film and also now
Speaker 3: with the new technologies that they have in these programs
Speaker 3: where you can break down down from the distance of
Speaker 3: three to six, six to nine ten plus and start
Speaker 3: to learn that these these all these teams have these
Speaker 3: specific defenses that they run in this down and distance
Speaker 3: and so it's also a tool that really helps you. You
Speaker 3: can watch all their blitz packages, you know, all their
Speaker 3: overload blitz and so it prepares you to how to
Speaker 3: protect yourself against certain blitz is where to go with
Speaker 3: the offensive line. So it's really fascinating when you use
Speaker 3: film to your advantage, how much you can learn out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: Technology itself is fascinating in preparation. My brother in law
Speaker 2: is one of the coaches on the Arkansas softball team,
Speaker 2: and so going up and just working out with them
Speaker 2: a little bit or hitting balls, but they have a
Speaker 2: cage a pitching machine and they can emulate the movement
Speaker 2: and the pitches of the pitchers they're about to face.
Speaker 3: Seriously.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's a computer. If they know she
Speaker 2: throws twenty six percent rise balls, they can program it
Speaker 2: for the bad or there. In baseball they can do this.
Speaker 2: You know, they have like I have a golf simulator
Speaker 2: with a big screen, but in baseball they can have
Speaker 2: a pitcher. You know, let's say you're up against Randy
Speaker 2: Johnson's they put a seven foot guy up and they
Speaker 2: can emulate his fastballs, says, and do it at the
Speaker 2: ratio that he does it.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable how quickly it changes, too, because even by
Speaker 3: the tail end of my career, they started to bring
Speaker 3: in this program where you'd put on it's like an oculus, right,
Speaker 3: and you're sitting there and it has the defensive side
Speaker 3: of the ball there and it's got your guys on
Speaker 3: this side. But you can watch the film as if
Speaker 3: you're going through your reads or making your calls at
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage with an actual defense in front
Speaker 3: of you that looks real. So it's just another way
Speaker 3: to visualize and see defenses and get more reps. And
Speaker 3: time on task and this is all something that was
Speaker 3: new to me. I was like, this is incredible.
Speaker 2: That's a big Jaden Daniels thing, like he did it
Speaker 2: at LSU and then when he came to Washington was
Speaker 2: I must have this here. I remember talking about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we talked to them about that. On this show, we
Speaker 2: do have Bruce Buffer coming up, who is the ring
Speaker 2: announcer for UFC. His line is.
Speaker 3: It's tarm I hope that was right.
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good, that's right, right right, that's right.
Speaker 2: It was beautiful. Yea, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So before we get Bruce, we have a game called
Speaker 2: who Said It? Bruce is known for his iconic it's
Speaker 2: time that he yells before UFC match. So, as you
Speaker 2: can see, this has all been redacted, so I do
Speaker 2: not know what the lines are going to be. Oh great,
Speaker 2: So I just had to set up here. So Kevin
Speaker 2: is going to go through some of the most infamous
Speaker 2: quotes of all time and we're gonna see if we
Speaker 2: can guess who said them. Are are we getting different
Speaker 2: ones or we get the same ones?
Speaker 4: Different ones?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Uh so he'll read five for each of us. We'll
Speaker 2: see how many we can get. All right, you want
Speaker 2: to go one one or you want to go one
Speaker 2: to three four five, one to three.
Speaker 4: Four five, I'll go one, two, three four five.
Speaker 6: Okaya first, can read or Brandon ovir take keep score
Speaker 6: over there?
Speaker 2: Oh I got score too, buddy.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I may have a haven't seen this, No.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I literally this is the page. I
Speaker 2: don't want to cheat because it's not fun for me.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, I have the actual one.
Speaker 3: I bet you're super competitive, like in board games and.
Speaker 2: Stuff that I want to win. I can see that,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to win anything, not by being awesome. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go be awesome. Okay.
Speaker 4: One question for you guys.
Speaker 6: Do you want me to read it as they said
Speaker 6: it or read it like as bland and boring as possible?
Speaker 2: Just read it straightforward, Just read it, not as an
Speaker 2: not Well if there's an accent on it, though, that
Speaker 2: gives it away.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Just read it as you Okay, normal, and we'll just
Speaker 2: try to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Okay, who's first?
Speaker 4: Bobby's first? I'll be doing I'm doing five in a row,
Speaker 4: doing five in a row go practice. We're talking about practice.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Alan I Everson practice practice.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay.
Speaker 6: Number two, when you're rich, you don't write tricks. You
Speaker 6: don't write checks, straight cash homie.
Speaker 2: Oh the back part is Randy Moss.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have got that from the beginning. When you're rich,
Speaker 2: you don't right checks, but straight cash, homie. I got
Speaker 2: Randy Moss. And then then I mooned the camera fakely
Speaker 2: with my fake pants.
Speaker 6: Two for two so far. Number three, you play to
Speaker 6: win the game. Hello, you play to win the game.
Speaker 2: You play to win the game. Hello. Okay, I got it.
Speaker 2: This is not for you.
Speaker 3: I know, I just got it.
Speaker 2: I can see him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you coach for?
Speaker 2: Well, the Vikings in Arizona? Are those correct?
Speaker 4: He might have at some point, but not with this quote.
Speaker 2: Wrap Raiders Colts. It's not Jim Mora. Is that who
Speaker 2: you're thinking?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: No, it's not Jim Moore. You're thinking of practice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's because Jim Moore is an old white guy. This
Speaker 2: is a black dude. Yep.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I know exactly who it is. He did
Speaker 3: coach for the Cardinals in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just can't think of his name. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to accept an any help. I'll miss it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Herm Edwards, you were getting there?
Speaker 2: He was on the Gens said, I'm thinking of Yes,
Speaker 2: that's what I was thinking of. I was not thinking
Speaker 2: of harm Edwards.
Speaker 4: Who are you thinking of?
Speaker 3: Any Green?
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh that's what I was seeing in my head
Speaker 2: because he's Arizona and the Vikings. Yes, yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2: messed okay, And he was trying to like, I don't
Speaker 2: know why he's trying to help a guy's compete because
Speaker 2: I feel insulted that he feels like he needs to
Speaker 2: give me charity. A second, like he was giving me
Speaker 2: wrong charity. So maybe he was like he was he
Speaker 2: gained sabotage me go ahead.
Speaker 4: Number four.
Speaker 6: You will never see any player play in the entire country.
Speaker 2: You will never see.
Speaker 4: Any player that was I knew he'd get a college
Speaker 4: one problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the wall.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I got to hear this one.
Speaker 2: Read it again. But that plaque is up on the
Speaker 2: wall on the Florida Football Complex. If I'm saying that, really, you.
Speaker 6: Will never see any player in the entire country play
Speaker 6: as hard as I will play for the rest of
Speaker 6: this season.
Speaker 2: After loss after loss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's going to.
Speaker 6: Play hard, all right, go ahead, Okay, And by the way,
Speaker 6: this these aren't all football, just so we're clear.
Speaker 2: I figured when I got that iverson one forgot about
Speaker 2: that one. Okay.
Speaker 6: Number five, I've always said, throwing a club shows you care.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't know this one, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: context clue this one. I've always said throwing a club
Speaker 2: shows you care. So it would either have to be
Speaker 2: Fred Flintstone or a golfer. That's true, true, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: gonna remove Fred Flintstone. Throwing a club is somebody who's going.
Speaker 3: To be.
Speaker 2: It's it's got to be a big golfer. So there's
Speaker 2: only a few that wouldever. It's definitely a golfer, but
Speaker 2: a bit. But for a quote to last, it's gonna
Speaker 2: have to be Tiger or Phil or Jack Nicholas. You
Speaker 2: know this.
Speaker 3: No, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go Tiger.
Speaker 4: It is John Daily, John, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He would have definitely been the obviously.
Speaker 6: That is like the most obvious John Daly. I know
Speaker 6: that sounds like it's the darkansis.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not.
Speaker 2: Going to be good at this game.
Speaker 4: Give me three out of five, got it right?
Speaker 2: Really good? Five, really good Bobby.
Speaker 4: Five Okay, Matt, you're tinny green.
Speaker 5: Number one, do your job, Bill Belichick. Okay, you gave
Speaker 5: him his own coach. I know, I know you give him.
Speaker 5: I gave you an Arkansas, didn't give him my wife.
Speaker 5: I'd have got that one. You gave him his own coach,
Speaker 5: my guy, Go ahead, a couple of How about how
Speaker 5: about this one here?
Speaker 2: My name is Tom Brady, who said that, yeah, got
Speaker 2: it okay.
Speaker 4: To be the man, you have to beat the man.
Speaker 3: To be the man, you've got to beat the man.
Speaker 2: Oh, this one's like the easiest one of every single one.
Speaker 4: Really, this is one of Bobby's favorites.
Speaker 2: This is yeah, yeah, yeah, Charles Barkley.
Speaker 3: What it is, Bobby, So it's Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2: To be the man, you gotta beat the man.
Speaker 3: Son of a good Charles Barkley, so close far away.
Speaker 4: Number three. The ceiling is the roof.
Speaker 3: That was my roofer yesterday, coming over to check out.
Speaker 2: You have an issue at the storm A little bet
Speaker 2: our yard hasn't. And I don't know my own yards.
Speaker 2: I'll put myself there because it's been flooding and storming here,
Speaker 2: so you can't like do it during a storm apparently,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel you. Anyway, get the question.
Speaker 3: The roof is the ceiling? Yeah, no, ceiling is the roof?
Speaker 3: Ceiling is roof?
Speaker 2: No idea?
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan, I would at that at halftime of the
Speaker 6: North Carolina game when he said that we're viral about
Speaker 6: six seven years ago.
Speaker 2: Maybe wait he said that, he said it Carolina's the
Speaker 2: older Michael Jordan. Yeah, got it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so you got one out of three so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really struggling.
Speaker 6: Okay, one out of three, all right, and here we go.
Speaker 6: I am the greatest. I said that even before I
Speaker 6: knew I was.
Speaker 3: I am the greatest.
Speaker 2: I don't know it, but if I were to context it,
Speaker 2: if I were to context it, I know who I
Speaker 2: would guess, But I do not know it. Who's Bolt?
Speaker 3: No, but I would I mean.
Speaker 2: That's a good guess that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have guess Lebron Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 3: I mean you could have given me like sting like
Speaker 3: a butterfly.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, that's too obvious. I already gave you
Speaker 4: do your job.
Speaker 2: But if he would have had sting like a butterfly,
Speaker 2: that's not it. I know that's the wrong quote too.
Speaker 2: That would have really thrown people off.
Speaker 6: All right, okay, last one here. I love me some me,
Speaker 6: I love me some me.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I know this quote.
Speaker 2: I know the quote.
Speaker 3: All right, go ahead tell me because I lost. I'm awful.
Speaker 2: It's t O. Yep. I found a picture t O
Speaker 2: and I sitting at a random chair. Oh yeah, like
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. I don't know what we're doing together.
Speaker 2: There's a picture. And when I played ball with Teo
Speaker 2: a few months ago at the Major League Baseball Celebrity
Speaker 2: All Star Softball Game, it's first time IVE never met him.
Speaker 3: My mind. He's an impressive human, like impressive special of
Speaker 3: a human.
Speaker 2: I watched him hit a home run and a with
Speaker 2: a softball slow pitch in a baseball park like not
Speaker 2: the home run. I had a home run, but it
Speaker 2: was it was.
Speaker 3: Small, smaller, smaller fence. They brought it in.
Speaker 2: He hit it out of the baseball field.
Speaker 3: He's a freak of It was wild. Yeah, I threw
Speaker 3: it with a one off season. He was like forty
Speaker 3: one at the time, and I don't know if he
Speaker 3: was trying to make a comeback what he was. He
Speaker 3: came out there and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this guy is an absolute freak of nature. Like he
Speaker 3: could still run incredibly fast, great hands, big physical. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was a beast.
Speaker 2: When I think of too, I think of when the
Speaker 2: Eagles there was there was a contract dispute and he's
Speaker 2: doing sit ups.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah with the media outside of the outside of
Speaker 3: his house. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was great it.
Speaker 2: That was a good game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 2: I liked especially because I won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he crushed me. I mean I was so far
Speaker 3: off with some of my guess and.
Speaker 2: You got a Bill Belichick question who that was a layup?
Speaker 3: Yeah that I needed a few more.
Speaker 2: What would what would your if you had to have
Speaker 2: a would attribute to you even if you make it
Speaker 2: up right now? You really put me on this So mine,
Speaker 2: I did a whole book on it, which is, well,
Speaker 2: mine's easy.
Speaker 3: Now yours is easy?
Speaker 2: Would you know what mine is? Mike the quote, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what would we fail?
Speaker 4: Until you don't?
Speaker 2: No fight, grind, repeat, same thing, same, same, same thing, right,
Speaker 2: Like there are three stages. There's the fight, there's the
Speaker 2: grind that nobody sees while you're doing the work. The fight.
Speaker 2: Everybody says they want to fight, they want to get started.
Speaker 2: The grind is all the hard work that nobody sees.
Speaker 2: It actually matters that sometimes you fail and have to
Speaker 2: start back over. And that's the repeat. So fire, grind, repeat.
Speaker 3: It has been the.
Speaker 2: But that's easy. Like I've had that, Yeah, you've had this.
Speaker 2: Yours would be like, why did I buy this printer?
Speaker 3: Why did I buy this printer today?
Speaker 2: What's the deal?
Speaker 3: Mistakes? Mistakes make you learn?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, keep whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Adversity, adversity comes advancement.
Speaker 2: Okay, see there we go. Is that yours? Yeah? What
Speaker 2: is it? No? Not? Fine? Yes? I like it. I
Speaker 2: like that quote. I've used that quote.
Speaker 3: Yes, rue, Adversity comes advancement.
Speaker 2: I think it's an excellent quote. Oh that's good exactly.
Speaker 2: And he's discounting himself for.
Speaker 3: Me, I was discounted. Well, I was just like, gosh,
Speaker 3: I haven't really come up with my wife mantra yet.
Speaker 2: What about and just bear with me, I'm bearing What
Speaker 2: about staying like a butterfly?
Speaker 3: Yeah that doesn't really make sense, but have you ever
Speaker 3: been stung? By a butterfly, No me neither.
Speaker 2: Can you get stung by a butterfly? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, okay, all.
Speaker 2: Right, we'll come back with Bruce Buffer.
Speaker 3: It's time nice all right.
Speaker 2: Up next, we'll talk to Bruce Buffer. He is the
Speaker 2: UFC Octagon pre fight announcer. He's known for us saying
Speaker 2: it's time. When he does that, I'm ready, It's time
Speaker 2: for me too to pay attention.
Speaker 3: I'm so fired up when that happens. Like there's some
Speaker 3: the build up before the fight, they do all the
Speaker 3: pre fights and then when you get in that ring
Speaker 3: and he comes in and gets that crowd fired up
Speaker 3: and he goes it's time.
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, it's on.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: I wonderful. And we'll ask him if he like tried
Speaker 2: out a bunch of stuff like it's about time to
Speaker 2: do it. It random, He like workshops and stuff for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's about to go down. Here we go. Time he
Speaker 2: goes back and makes notes. Yeah, he's self scouts himself
Speaker 2: like we it's If you like Bruce's awesome voice, you
Speaker 2: can order personalized cameos from him at Bruce Buffer dot com.
Speaker 2: Follow him on Instagram as well at Bruce buffer UFC.
Speaker 3: Here we are.
Speaker 5: We got.
Speaker 2: Hey, Bruce, thank you for the time. Man.
Speaker 7: My pleasure, my pleasure.
Speaker 2: We were talking about you before you came on and
Speaker 2: talking about a lot of the things that you're involved in,
Speaker 2: and I want to get to that. But one of
Speaker 2: the things that I had mentioned was I wonder if
Speaker 2: you workshopped any of your You know, it's time is
Speaker 2: like what you're known for, But did you have like
Speaker 2: other versions until you landed on it's time or it's
Speaker 2: like it's time to do it. I don't know. Do
Speaker 2: you try other stuff?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: No, no, Actually what happened is at the beginning of
Speaker 7: the show I used to say it's time to begin
Speaker 7: the ultimate fighting chumpionship like that. And then when Dana
Speaker 7: took over the show back in ninety nine, I went
Speaker 7: in for the what I call the Godfather meeting. You know,
Speaker 7: we had a little head to head about everything going on,
Speaker 7: and he preferred I didn't say that at the beginning,
Speaker 7: and he told me about one announcement that I made
Speaker 7: that uh was one of his favorites, which was when
Speaker 7: Tito Ortiz fought Evan Tanner in Atlantic City at a
Speaker 7: previous fight and he asked to keep that same tempo,
Speaker 7: which was perfect for me because to me, it's not
Speaker 7: what I say, it's how I say it, and I
Speaker 7: like to be quick to the point. Bam bam, punch, punch,
Speaker 7: you know, get it in every morning when I woke up,
Speaker 7: wake up. Rather, I had a habit and still do
Speaker 7: looking in the mirror and saying it's time, meaning like
Speaker 7: it's time to be the best I can be. It's
Speaker 7: time to have the greatest day I can have. So
Speaker 7: so I never was phrase driven because I managed my brother,
Speaker 7: the legendary Michael Buffer, and I trademarked that phrase and
Speaker 7: together we market it to where it is today. Every
Speaker 7: announcer wanted to have a let's get ready to or
Speaker 7: be a phrase driven announcer. I wanted to stick with
Speaker 7: just again, not what I say, how I say it.
Speaker 7: So it was about seven years into the show that
Speaker 7: I started saying it's time at the main event because
Speaker 7: I figured the fighters have been fighting training now for
Speaker 7: eight to ten weeks, the fans have been watching for
Speaker 7: five hours give or take. It's all culminating into this
Speaker 7: main event, the moment we've all been waiting for.
Speaker 2: It's time.
Speaker 7: It's just when it goes so then I first did
Speaker 7: it then, and I realized it was catching on in
Speaker 7: Brazil about two thousand and three when I went and
Speaker 7: I did it in front of twenty thousands Portuguese speaking people,
Speaker 7: and the entire arena set it back to me at
Speaker 7: the same time, which was amazing, and I thought, oh wow,
Speaker 7: then something's going on here. And now it's honorably so
Speaker 7: and humbly and it's the greatest compliment in the world
Speaker 7: that pretty much everywhere I go now they repeat it
Speaker 7: back along with many of the other things I'll say,
Speaker 7: like this is the main event, and now as an announcer,
Speaker 7: it's a very fulfilling experience to hear that come back
Speaker 7: at me.
Speaker 2: Chris.
Speaker 3: I mean, I watched these events and you obviously set
Speaker 3: the tone for them, but how much time do you
Speaker 3: have to just utilize to working on these guys' names,
Speaker 3: because there are so many names that I'm sitting there, like,
Speaker 3: how does he announce that so flawlessly?
Speaker 7: Thank you again, appreciate that. Here's the thing. I don't rehearse.
Speaker 7: There's a rehearsal voice, and there's an organic voice, so
Speaker 7: I like to feel the energy of the crowd. But
Speaker 7: the one thing I do do because it takes me
Speaker 7: three to five hours to prepare the fight cards that
Speaker 7: I bring in, And actually, while I'm doing the fight cars,
Speaker 7: I'm actually absorbing all the information. The UFC is a
Speaker 7: very well oiled machine, and we have sound files that
Speaker 7: go out to everybody and the fighters saying their names.
Speaker 7: So I listen in ten and I write them phonetically
Speaker 7: on the cards, but as I write it phonetically, I'm
Speaker 7: absorbing them in my brain. And I'll say it a
Speaker 7: couple of times to myself so that when I go
Speaker 7: out in the octagon and do it, boom, let it fly.
Speaker 7: And sometimes before a show John Annick, who's probably one
Speaker 7: of the finest commentators in sports, he and I will
Speaker 7: go back and forth and make sure we're totally in
Speaker 7: sync on the name. So I'm saying it like the
Speaker 7: commentators are saying.
Speaker 2: It, so we do it right. You made your debut
Speaker 2: back in ninety six. I was looking at some old
Speaker 2: video online. It's weird to say video, but I'm old
Speaker 2: enough that we had video at one point. So back in.
Speaker 7: Nineteen, I'm older than you, so I remember VHF. So
Speaker 7: it's all good.
Speaker 2: So back in ninety six. But then I also was
Speaker 2: reading about you training and you having a black belt,
Speaker 2: which came first.
Speaker 7: The black belt or the UFC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like being a part, like being announcing fighting
Speaker 2: or you training to fight.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 7: I've been training in martial arts since i was twelve,
Speaker 7: and I've attained three black belts. When I was younger
Speaker 7: growing up in Malibu after moving there from Philadelphia when
Speaker 7: I was fifteen, I started training with Chuck Norris's fighting
Speaker 7: partners and we would just spa fight and surf. I
Speaker 7: mean that was my growing up. I never even lifted
Speaker 7: waste until my twenties. I mean it just concentrated on
Speaker 7: surfing and hundreds of push ups and some curls and
Speaker 7: all that. But fighting has been in my blood since
Speaker 7: I was born. My dad had me watching boxing, you know,
Speaker 7: every Saturday, Sunday, the whole bit. This was part of
Speaker 7: our lifestyle. I've always been into fighting, always been into
Speaker 7: the martial arts. And when I went to the first
Speaker 7: UFC back in nineteen ninety six and cast for Wyoming,
Speaker 7: which was USC six, which I did not announce, I
Speaker 7: realized this is my world and I had my brother
Speaker 7: announced three of the events, Michael and I had to
Speaker 7: pull him for the events because he had a huge
Speaker 7: contract with WCW Wrestling, which he loved, and he couldn't
Speaker 7: have continued at the pace the UFC was going. And
Speaker 7: it took me about a year and a half to
Speaker 7: convince UFC that they needed me and the octagon, that
Speaker 7: I would help them. I'm a brand builder and I
Speaker 7: had a lot of media contacts working with my brother
Speaker 7: and building it, and I realized that this was a
Speaker 7: spectacle back then that needed to be refined. But I
Speaker 7: realized it was going to be one of the biggest
Speaker 7: things in fighting sports, if not the biggest event in
Speaker 7: fighting sports. So I knew that was my world. I
Speaker 7: wanted to get into it, and long story cuts short,
Speaker 7: convinced them to make me the announcer, and I said,
Speaker 7: I'll do everything I can, you know, out of pure
Speaker 7: loyalty to the brand, to help build this and be
Speaker 7: more than just an announcer for the company. And that
Speaker 7: was the best poker hand, big poker player. That was
Speaker 7: the best poker hand I ever played in my life.
Speaker 7: To get into this twenty nine years ago.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And being a fan of the sport too, could you
Speaker 3: talk about what's your most memorable event that you did
Speaker 3: the pre game or pre fight, you know, announcing for.
Speaker 7: It's really hard because I've it as thousands of events,
Speaker 7: so I have many many favorite events. I could coin
Speaker 7: a couple for you. Obviously a historic speaking the finale
Speaker 7: to the first Ultimate Fighter Series when Forrest Griffin and
Speaker 7: Stephen Bonner fought each other in the main event. That
Speaker 7: was probably a pinnacle right there, because, as I always
Speaker 7: liked to say, Spike TV made us and we made
Speaker 7: Spike TV. There was just it went from a five
Speaker 7: share four share up to like a twelve give or take,
Speaker 7: which you, of course, understanding TV ratings, know what that's like.
Speaker 7: And it was an immediate explosion, you know. The show
Speaker 7: became a hit, we took off, and when Dana White
Speaker 7: and the Fertida Brothers bought the UFC back in ninety nine,
Speaker 7: I realized at that point that we had a chance
Speaker 7: to become and fulfill that becoming the biggest sport fighting
Speaker 7: event in the world with their guidance and financial backing
Speaker 7: and business acumen. So that was a big event. UFC
Speaker 7: one hundred when brock Lester Frankmuir was a big event
Speaker 7: for me. I was being egged on by everybody for
Speaker 7: eight months thanks to Joe Rogan to do with. I mean,
Speaker 7: I have my one to eighty and ninety turn and
Speaker 7: all this stuff people coin and Joe's like, well, can
Speaker 7: you do a three sixty right? And suddenly I was
Speaker 7: being egged on by the Internet and the fans, which
Speaker 7: thank god for the fans of the UFC, they're incredible.
Speaker 7: And I pulled off at three sixty. You know, I
Speaker 7: jumped up and spun three hundred sixty degrees and said
Speaker 7: brock Lester's name. So personally for me, that was, you know,
Speaker 7: a high moment. But you know, every time I think
Speaker 7: that there's the best show ever, then two or three
Speaker 7: months later, another great show happens. I mean, it's just
Speaker 7: USC is providing so much entertainment, you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 7: It's like, if you ask me what the greatest fight
Speaker 7: is very hard to say. I could name a bunch
Speaker 7: of them.
Speaker 2: With UFC and MMA becoming more embedded in pop culture,
Speaker 2: a few names come to mind. First, it's probably to
Speaker 2: me like Chuck Ladell, and then it's probably like a
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor and Ronda Rowsey like those names end up
Speaker 2: piercing not just MMA fans, but touching people who are
Speaker 2: just general sports fans or even just into pop culture. Uh,
Speaker 2: what have been and who have been the fighters that
Speaker 2: you've seen that have kind of transcended the sport to
Speaker 2: bring more people back into the sport with it.
Speaker 7: Well, you mentioned key names there, Ronda. I mean, women's
Speaker 7: MMA became what it is, let's face it, because of
Speaker 7: Ronda and her rise to fame along with all the
Speaker 7: other women that have fought so gallantly in the octagon.
Speaker 7: And it's amazing. I watch I love watching the women fight.
Speaker 7: They bring it all every day, as do the men.
Speaker 7: Connor McGregor obviously a big boost to the show. Chuck
Speaker 7: Withdell George Saint Pierre probably one of the greatest fighters
Speaker 7: ever to enter the octagon. I loved and respected internationally.
Speaker 7: John Jones being as Dana White says, and I'll have
Speaker 7: to agree with Dana White, the goat one of the
Speaker 7: greatest fighters, if not the greatest fighter of all time
Speaker 7: when he fights, If he fights, and I think he
Speaker 7: will fight Aspinall Tom Aspinall come sometime this year. That'll
Speaker 7: be probably the biggest fight ever. You know, then you
Speaker 7: have others that have run in a cross culture of people,
Speaker 7: Habib Demoga Metov, you know, bringing in tons of fans
Speaker 7: from you know, Russian uh and all that, and all
Speaker 7: the areas over there. It's there's just there's just so many.
Speaker 7: But you you did mention key factors. I mean there's
Speaker 7: every couple of years, three years or so, it comes
Speaker 7: along an it factor fighter who's got it all, you know,
Speaker 7: both the way they fight in the octagon, the way
Speaker 7: they present themselves outside of the octagon. I measure fighters
Speaker 7: not just with the way they perform in the octagon,
Speaker 7: but how they handle thoselves with the public, how they
Speaker 7: are outside of the octagon, because I truly believe in
Speaker 7: role model images. Uh you know, we're we're craving role
Speaker 7: models these days in the world for young people to follow.
Speaker 7: And I think it's very important that key fighters are
Speaker 7: famous fighters, if not all the fighters realize that they
Speaker 7: are role models for young people and they should handle
Speaker 7: themselves in the best way possible. Upcoming people Patty Pimlet
Speaker 7: out of the UK. He's he's a very hot neutcoming
Speaker 7: fighter who has a big fight against Michael Chandler this weekend.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: Again, I could go on and on and on. There's
Speaker 7: so many there's so many personalities driving the sport.
Speaker 3: Do you think now the perception of what the UFC
Speaker 3: is has changed dramatically from when you guys began, from
Speaker 3: like the brutality of the sport that it's so much
Speaker 3: more accepted in our culture now everybody buys in and
Speaker 3: the pay per view and everything else. But back when
Speaker 3: you probably first got started, it was people's perception of
Speaker 3: it was much different.
Speaker 7: Oh my perception I was different too, even though I
Speaker 7: understood the fighting, the term mixed martial arts wasn't even
Speaker 7: coined until about six or seven years into the event.
Speaker 7: And in the beginning, again we get back to that
Speaker 7: it was a spectacle, right, it was blood sport. It
Speaker 7: was like what style is going to beat what style?
Speaker 7: So it needed to be refined, and in turn it
Speaker 7: was refined and right now what you're dealing with, And
Speaker 7: I'm proud to say I'm part of a sport that
Speaker 7: went from beginning spectacle to mainstream sports and it's respected
Speaker 7: worldwide now as a result. So it's a definitive difference,
Speaker 7: right most definitely, and I think it's very well needed.
Speaker 7: You know, Eventually, I think you're going to see mixed
Speaker 7: martial arts in the Olympics, because really, without the elbows
Speaker 7: and the knees probably wouldn't be allowed. But you know,
Speaker 7: you take judo and boxing and wrestling, and I think
Speaker 7: they have taekwondo, but if you put all those together,
Speaker 7: you have mixed martial arts, right, So eventually it could
Speaker 7: become an Olympic event. I would very much bet on
Speaker 7: the fact that.
Speaker 3: It will be.
Speaker 2: I'm curious about its time columns because and you can
Speaker 2: go to the website it's time BB, which is it's
Speaker 2: time Bruce Buffer. But like, what does it smell like?
Speaker 2: And then how involved in the smell process? And then
Speaker 2: what do you what's the goal of what you wanted
Speaker 2: to smell like?
Speaker 7: Well, yes, it is right here, yeah, because I haven't
Speaker 7: even put it on today, so let me just give it.
Speaker 7: You know, I've always liked uh, you know calvil Clan
Speaker 7: obsession was a clone I used to wear all the time.
Speaker 7: I don't like to walk in a room and people go, WHOA,
Speaker 7: what what does that person I have on? You know,
Speaker 7: so very simply I wanted to create a sensual, charismatic cologne,
Speaker 7: subtle that women obviously would love to you know, smell
Speaker 7: when you're around men of course appreciated too and not
Speaker 7: be overbearing. And there's a company I work with, my
Speaker 7: partners in England and as far as far as being
Speaker 7: involved in the process, I would receive, you know, the
Speaker 7: coffee grounds and three or four different scents after we
Speaker 7: talked about what I was wanted to put together. I
Speaker 7: love the vanilla scent and the whole bit. And my
Speaker 7: partner christ and I, you know, we did the scent
Speaker 7: test and we picked the one that worked out perfectly
Speaker 7: and we came up with that and we just came
Speaker 7: out with the new Iconic, which is another one that's
Speaker 7: in a black bottle. And I was happy to say
Speaker 7: that when I first came out on Amazon, it was
Speaker 7: a top seller on Amazon. It still sells extremely well
Speaker 7: on Amazon, but at this time BB dot com thank
Speaker 7: you for quoting the site. There's not just a cologne,
Speaker 7: but there's a whole line of toiletries there. Because I'm
Speaker 7: I've always been very big on taking care of myself.
Speaker 7: Women take care of themselves. For us as men, we
Speaker 7: should take care of ourselves for women obviously, also for
Speaker 7: ourselves and grooming is a very key part. So smell right,
Speaker 7: be right, stay right, man, I'm going to be very
Speaker 7: involved in the set process, very involved the set process now,
Speaker 7: especially that you put it on in front of us.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know I can smell it through
Speaker 3: the camera right now. It's smells fantastic. But this guy's
Speaker 3: also he mentioned it before, But you're a legit poker player,
Speaker 3: like you've played in some major tournaments.
Speaker 2: You're at the main table.
Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit about your passion for
Speaker 3: poker and how you got into that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'm a very creative it's going to be
Speaker 7: a competitive person. I think creative too, but competitive person.
Speaker 7: And when I was nine, my dad taught me how
Speaker 7: to play poker, how to play blackjack, and it taught
Speaker 7: me about the horse race. He said, the only way
Speaker 7: to follow a horse with a shovel, don't bet on him.
Speaker 7: So he's just telling me not to go make it
Speaker 7: a habit of betting at the track, which is a
Speaker 7: fun day for a day. But I'm not a race
Speaker 7: better with respect all the people that are, of course,
Speaker 7: because horse race is incredible. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 7: I just agreed to announce a huge horse race coming
Speaker 7: up that I have to keep a little quiet right now,
Speaker 7: but you'll see in May on NBC, which I'm pretty
Speaker 7: proud of. Poker is a mental game, it's a competitive game.
Speaker 7: It's a game of skill. I call it BSc ball,
Speaker 7: skill and confidence, and you need a little twenty percent
Speaker 7: love factor to win. But I love the competition. I
Speaker 7: love reading the people at the table and the personalities involved,
Speaker 7: and playing in the World Series of Poker, the WSOP
Speaker 7: events is something that all poker players who played tournaments
Speaker 7: aspire to have a chance to do and love to do.
Speaker 7: It's the super Bowl of Poker. I played in an
Speaker 7: event which was the fifty thousand dollars high Roller last summer,
Speaker 7: and it was against normally the main event has like
Speaker 7: eight thousand or more people in it, which I've done
Speaker 7: very well in the last time I played it, I
Speaker 7: made Day five and placed four hundred and seventy six
Speaker 7: or something. But in the high Roller event I entered
Speaker 7: last year, which was my first tournament I played since
Speaker 7: COVID because I've been so busy, I final tabled the
Speaker 7: tournament and I came in eighth and it was one
Speaker 7: hundred and seventy two players of they're all the best
Speaker 7: players in the world, Phil Ivy, Daniel Dgron Who Helmuth.
Speaker 7: They were all in the tournament, so it was a
Speaker 7: real achievement for me personally and a lot of street
Speaker 7: cred to make that final table. I one time was
Speaker 7: said to be by cardplayer dot com the top ten best.
Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not big on the worst celebrity, to
Speaker 7: be honest with you, because I think we're all created equal.
Speaker 7: But it's it said top ten best celebrity poker player
Speaker 7: in the world, and the other people in there were
Speaker 7: Ben Affleck and Jennifer Tilley. Gabe Kaplin was number one
Speaker 7: from Welcome Back Cotter who's a huge cash player. So
Speaker 7: I love poker, keeps my competition going and love winning money.
Speaker 2: You know you mentioned that you and your brother work together.
Speaker 2: You got to work together for a long time, But
Speaker 2: you guys did not grow up together, right.
Speaker 7: No, we're long lost hap brothers. We met each other
Speaker 7: when I was twenty eight years old. I saw him
Speaker 7: on TV again, being a huge boxing fan of my
Speaker 7: dad and my brother Brian and I, you know, watching
Speaker 7: boxing all our lives. Out came this handsome debonair James
Speaker 7: Bond looking individual with that famous five words let's get
Speaker 7: ready to rumble. And when they conrand his name on
Speaker 7: the screen, Michael Buffer, I'm like, WHOA, Who's this right?
Speaker 7: As I own telemarketing companies in my twenties and thirties
Speaker 7: and before the inner and I never saw my last
Speaker 7: name in a phone book in the United States, so
Speaker 7: it kind of really struck me. Funny, los story cut short,
Speaker 7: my dad never told me that he had been married
Speaker 7: at the age of twenty when he was going over
Speaker 7: to serve in World War Two. It was a brief
Speaker 7: marriage and he came back a divorce and suit, but
Speaker 7: a child was born, and last time he saw the
Speaker 7: child was when he was two and a half. And
Speaker 7: Michael was raised under the name of Hubert by foster
Speaker 7: parents great as he calls it, leave it to Beaver upbringing.
Speaker 7: And when he went in the army at twenty, they said,
Speaker 7: your birth certificate says you're Buffer. Because he was never
Speaker 7: formally adopted, so they said, you're not Michael Huber, You're
Speaker 7: Michael Buffer. And had that not happened, and the events
Speaker 7: had led him into being the legendary, greatest, you know,
Speaker 7: announcer of all times, as I like to say, in
Speaker 7: most everybody believes he we wouldn't be sitting here talking
Speaker 7: right now, because we did when he did see him
Speaker 7: on TV and and my dad called a local arena
Speaker 7: here in Los Angeles to receive a country club left
Speaker 7: a message for Michael to call him back, and Michael
Speaker 7: called him back. That got together for lunch, and it
Speaker 7: turned out to be his long lost son, and we
Speaker 7: all got together and we got along famously, you know,
Speaker 7: everybody got along great. And four years later I sold
Speaker 7: two companies I was doing incredible with, but I was
Speaker 7: burned out, not happy with what I was doing. And
Speaker 7: I had an epiphany and I said, Michael, I need
Speaker 7: to become your manager and your partner. I want to
Speaker 7: make you Richard more famous you ever dreamed, and put
Speaker 7: you everywhere in the world and TV, make video games, toys,
Speaker 7: this that, the other trademark this phrase properly. He had
Speaker 7: never even made a hat or T shirt at that
Speaker 7: time with the saying on it. And I said, I
Speaker 7: will saw this, quit with the money, having the bank
Speaker 7: and make all this happen. He said, how are you
Speaker 7: going to do all that? I said, I really don't know,
Speaker 7: I said, but I'll figure it out. If I'm going
Speaker 7: to give this up. I'm going to make it happen.
Speaker 7: And that was, you know, thirty five plus years ago,
Speaker 7: and now we're here where we are today.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable story. I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 3: and then when you guys met, you guys obviously hit
Speaker 3: it off. It's it's one of those things. I've got
Speaker 3: two brothers. I can't even imagine that but going into
Speaker 3: business with them. And then my question is, do you guys,
Speaker 3: how often do you guys talk about different like phrases?
Speaker 3: Does he ever critique you in terms of your performance
Speaker 3: or vice versa?
Speaker 2: Are you guys like that?
Speaker 3: What type of relationship do you have, Like do you
Speaker 3: guys bust balls a little bit? Like, well, talk to
Speaker 3: us a little bit about that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have a great relationship. It's he's very supportive
Speaker 7: of me. I'm very supportive of him. I said, do
Speaker 7: you have any tips? Way back in the beginning, is
Speaker 7: you know what, watch yourself on video. It's the hardest
Speaker 7: thing you'll ever do. That'll be your teaching aid. So
Speaker 7: otherwise can't offer you that much more. And I just
Speaker 7: believe that I needed to go out and get it.
Speaker 7: As you guys know, the term in this business. Reps
Speaker 7: get as many reps as I have. I look back
Speaker 7: to when I started at USC eight and buy them
Speaker 7: on Puerto Rico in nineteen ninety six, and it's like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 7: You know, it's completely different. So it just builds from there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I never wanted to be Frank Sinatra's you. I wanted
Speaker 7: to create my own style. And I told myself that
Speaker 7: if in the first three years I don't create my
Speaker 7: own style and be respective for what I do, that's
Speaker 7: going to give it up, which I would have, right,
Speaker 7: But it went the path that it went, and I'm
Speaker 7: very happy to say, you know, it's I'm thankfully and
Speaker 7: hopefully respected by ever Briddy for exactly what I do.
Speaker 7: You no no competition, no competition, no busting balls, just
Speaker 7: total support. We kid around once in a while, but
Speaker 7: that's all you have.
Speaker 2: Se three fourteen as a Saturday, And I know Michael
Speaker 2: Chandler a little bit. He lives around here, He's been
Speaker 2: over he does, he's been on the show before, and
Speaker 2: so you know, I think he was really looking forward to,
Speaker 2: you know, the past fight he didn't get to have
Speaker 2: because of an injury. But he's going to fight you know,
Speaker 2: Patty the Battye. To me, that's the most exciting fight
Speaker 2: on the card. I mean you mentioned that earlier, but
Speaker 2: speak to that about Chandler specifically, like if he wins this,
Speaker 2: is it renewal for him to because again he's an
Speaker 2: older fighter at this point. If he loses the fight,
Speaker 2: is that kind of the end for him being a
Speaker 2: part of the big card.
Speaker 7: Michael Chandler's type of fighter, winner lose. He puts on
Speaker 7: the best performance that we all respect in some of
Speaker 7: the most exciting fights you'll ever see. So I never
Speaker 7: pick winners in fights. May the best man or woman win.
Speaker 7: Michael Chandler. He wins his fight against Patty Pimlant, he's
Speaker 7: back in the mix. Patti Pimant wins his fight Michael Chandler,
Speaker 7: he's higher in the mix. So it's not the end
Speaker 7: of the career for definitely not for Patty, and I
Speaker 7: don't feel for Michael because Michael is such a true warrior,
Speaker 7: octagon warrior that you know, everybody wants to see him fight.
Speaker 7: He's a highly likable fighter, respected by every UFC fan.
Speaker 7: I don't know who doesn't respect him except other fighters,
Speaker 7: you know, as they like to talk about each other
Speaker 7: when they're going to go to war. But this is
Speaker 7: a big fight for Michael. There's no question that first
Speaker 7: round of this fight is going to be a tell
Speaker 7: all for sure. Most definitely, Patty's usually confident. This event
Speaker 7: is stacked from beginning prelim to to on. The fight
Speaker 7: between Bryce Mitchell and John Silva is one that's very
Speaker 7: highly anticipated as his chandler, and of course the event
Speaker 7: with Bolkanowski and Diego Lopez.
Speaker 2: So before you go, I want to make sure everybody
Speaker 2: knows it's time bb dot com for the cologne. But
Speaker 2: also if you want to get a cameo video and audio,
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Speaker 7: partner Kristin and I love to do. The thank you
Speaker 7: notes we get at Bruce Buffer dot com. We get
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Speaker 7: The requests I get are pretty wild, but it's a
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Speaker 7: I love doing audios and videos.
Speaker 2: Bruce. We appreciate the time. Hope you have a great
Speaker 2: rest of the day. We're big fans and hopefully we'll
Speaker 2: see us soon.
Speaker 7: I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much. Gentlemen,
Speaker 7: Kevin Mike, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Ruth. What's the best round of golf you
Speaker 2: ever played? Do you have a best score, best score?
Speaker 3: I'm an average golfer, but I did shoot a seventy eight.
Speaker 2: Oh so jealous. I've never broken eighty, so.
Speaker 3: I mean that has always been my goal. Just give
Speaker 3: me one time, and I think it truly has only
Speaker 3: been one time. I was at a course called Oh
Speaker 3: Hoopy Down in Georgia, fantastic place. Go down there, I
Speaker 3: get invited, don't really know the group too well. I
Speaker 3: knew one of my buddies that I got the invitation from.
Speaker 3: So we go down and I tell them I'm a twelve.
Speaker 3: I played out of my mind. They were so pissed off.
Speaker 3: One of those days. One of those days, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I had no apologies for it. I was like, guys, look,
Speaker 3: this is what this is what it is, seventy I
Speaker 3: was hitting putts, shipping. It just felt, it felt so good.
Speaker 3: And then then the next day it was back to myself.
Speaker 3: I told you guys, I'm a twelve as well.
Speaker 2: Somewhere. Oh, when I was doing rich Eisen, one of
Speaker 2: the guys was like, hey, what's your handicap? And I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know. You can look it up
Speaker 2: in my GHI n again for like twelve point six
Speaker 2: or something. And so my best round ever is eighty one.
Speaker 2: And if I wore to bogie the eighteenth hole, I
Speaker 2: would have shot a seventy nine. And it was that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was that. It was that where I ended up
Speaker 2: shooting like an eight on a part four It right whatever,
Speaker 2: And it was only because I got tight going. I'm
Speaker 2: back to do it right, Yeah, so I've not broken eighty.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a crazy mental sport. It's like the most
Speaker 3: the mental grind that you have from hole to hole,
Speaker 3: let alone the skill that it takes. But you get
Speaker 3: on a roll in your feeling that and then you're
Speaker 3: starting to count strokes. The worst thing you can do
Speaker 3: is count strokes, and I do because it takes one
Speaker 3: hole where you're like, dude, I've been par birdie, parr,
Speaker 3: triple boge, triple bogey.
Speaker 2: I mean four holes in, I'm starting to go, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm doing if I keep this pace up, Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 3: And then reality strokes.
Speaker 2: Biggest celebrity ever played with, coolest celebrity, coolest celebrity, you know.
Speaker 3: I'd say one of the coolest celebrities I've ever played
Speaker 3: with was Jerry West. It was out in California and
Speaker 3: I got the invite and they knew each other somehow,
Speaker 3: some way, and we played a whole round at eighteen
Speaker 3: and what an absolute stud. He was like seventy two
Speaker 3: at the time, still in incredible shape, said he woke
Speaker 3: up every morning at around four thirty five, got his
Speaker 3: workout in eight well all that stuff, but the dude,
Speaker 3: his mind was incredible, and he could play golf, and
Speaker 3: just some of the stories he had about him growing up,
Speaker 3: his day and age, and also the legends of the
Speaker 3: game that he played against. It was a really cool experience.
Speaker 2: That'd have been a cool day just to hear the stories.
Speaker 2: And on a day like that, you don't want to
Speaker 2: play so bad that it affects like your attitude. So
Speaker 2: you're just praying you don't play horrible. If you play
Speaker 2: pretty bad, that's okay because that happens. You play really great,
Speaker 2: that's awesome too. But it's those days whenever it could
Speaker 2: be a real special day, you're just going just don't
Speaker 2: fail me. Body, don't fail me his muscle memory, don't
Speaker 2: because yeah, it's And then you start to feel embarrassed,
Speaker 2: or at least I do, Like if I'm playing really bad
Speaker 2: with somebody, that I start to be embarrassed, mine I'll cheat.
Speaker 2: I played. I played a couple of times with Jordan Speed,
Speaker 2: but the first time I played with Speed, and he's
Speaker 2: obviously a professional golfer, we bet one hundred bucks a hole,
Speaker 2: but really I had to give him one hundred if
Speaker 2: he birdied, and he had to give me a hundred
Speaker 2: if I parved I like that, and so did you
Speaker 2: get strokes?
Speaker 3: No strokes? Oh, but you said to your twelve he's
Speaker 3: a scratch golfer. He's taking advantage of you.
Speaker 2: Why I didn't want strokes? I wanted to play. That
Speaker 2: wasn't the purpose. The purpose for me was he already was.
Speaker 2: He always given me an advantage, right, like a stroke
Speaker 2: a hole basically yeah, so that's yeah, a stroke a hole.
Speaker 3: How'd you make out?
Speaker 2: I lost one hundred dollars oh on the last hole,
Speaker 2: and he was like, no, I don't want your money.
Speaker 2: We just spent a whole day doing this and shooting
Speaker 2: kind of. I was like, no, no, you'll take my money
Speaker 2: or the story's not complete, right like you must have
Speaker 2: I have to build money. So that was cool because
Speaker 2: to watch him and nothing about his game. And again
Speaker 2: I've been lucky to play maybe three times at this
Speaker 2: point because we played like a part of three course
Speaker 2: together as well. He doesn't swing that hard. It doesn't,
Speaker 2: I should rephrase it. It doesn't look like anything he's
Speaker 2: doing has extreme intensity on it. It looks so easy
Speaker 2: and smooth even next to him, but it is not,
Speaker 2: and it is so precise, like wild To watch the
Speaker 2: control those guys have on that tiny ball in the
Speaker 2: control that I don't have. The funniest is Ray Romano.
Speaker 3: Oh you got to play with the Ray. He's he
Speaker 3: makes me crack up all the time.
Speaker 2: Have you met him? I have not met him. It's
Speaker 2: the same person, and he's hilarious the whole time and
Speaker 2: it doesn't stop, and not in a way as I dude,
Speaker 2: shut up. He's so like warmly funny the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that would be like my coolest where it's just
Speaker 2: watching him do what he loves, which is golf, watching
Speaker 2: him do what he does naturally, which is just be
Speaker 2: NonStop hilarious right for three hours, even when he's not
Speaker 2: trying to be.
Speaker 3: See, that's a gift within himself. The one guy that
Speaker 3: I played with right around COVID was Nate BARGATSI did
Speaker 3: I pronounce that right? The last name. And he's actually
Speaker 3: really takes his golf seriously. He wants to win. He
Speaker 3: does this, but what a cool guy. And this is
Speaker 3: right before he really over these last few years has
Speaker 3: just blown up. But it was right before that. And
Speaker 3: he is funny as all get out as well, but
Speaker 3: probably not to the.
Speaker 2: Same way that Ray Ramond. Yeah, Ray is like loudly funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's not. He's like very concentrated on playing golf.
Speaker 3: He wants to do well and he's got that dry
Speaker 3: sense of humor. So he's funny. But it's just you're
Speaker 3: if you're playing golf, you better be ready to play golf.
Speaker 2: What's the nicest course you've ever played on?
Speaker 3: Nicest course I've ever played on? I'd have to go
Speaker 3: with Bandon Dunes. I thought that was the coolest course
Speaker 3: in just it was beautiful. You're right on the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 3: They've got six different courses there. It's an experience within itself.
Speaker 3: But Bandon Dunes was unbelievable. It's up in Oregon. How
Speaker 3: about yourself?
Speaker 2: Probably I'll go just because I've seen it on TV
Speaker 2: so many times. I played the Pebble Beach pro am,
Speaker 2: which is super cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pebble Beach is pretty.
Speaker 2: And there are just holes that are burnt into your
Speaker 2: head that you've just seen so many times on television
Speaker 2: and when you're playing it, you're like, whoa. You just
Speaker 2: can't be taken aback to the point where it affects
Speaker 2: your game, right because you like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: mess up on this well, I've seen it seventy two
Speaker 2: times over the year. So playing that tournament and having
Speaker 2: free access, it's like for three days because there were
Speaker 2: three courses. Spyglass was awesome.
Speaker 3: Spyglass is great.
Speaker 2: And aside from the history of Pebble Beach, Spyglass is
Speaker 2: probably a cooler course, but the organism that is Pebble
Speaker 2: Beach makes it the coolest course.
Speaker 3: It's probably because I played so poorly when I went
Speaker 3: there that I was just like, not my favorite course.
Speaker 2: I can I can see that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's reflective of how you felt that day.
Speaker 3: If you place yes semi well, you have a different
Speaker 3: feeling about the course. If you play terribly, be like
Speaker 3: I hate Jerry West, Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: He's like, put hold me up, kid, have you ever
Speaker 2: been to the Masters? Never been to that Master's?
Speaker 3: I rock the gear all the time because my brother
Speaker 3: goes down and I act like I've been there and
Speaker 3: everybody's like, oh, you've been there. I was like, Nope,
Speaker 3: never been there. I need to get down there. Have
Speaker 3: you been to the Master's?
Speaker 2: Yes? I would like to at with you allowing me
Speaker 2: to do this. I'd like to give you the most
Speaker 2: name dropping story ever. I love named stories. I love
Speaker 2: him too when people give them, honestly, I really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: So I've been to the Masters once and one of
Speaker 2: our guests on this show, Andy Roddick, I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going, like he was it still as one of
Speaker 2: our best friends. We don't talk as much as we
Speaker 2: used to the states away, but he was like, I'm
Speaker 2: going to the Masters. I got four passes. You want
Speaker 2: to go? And I'm like, yeah, of course I want
Speaker 2: to go. We're gonna go for three days. And he
Speaker 2: played in that the day the part three. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 2: so he did that and so it was me, Andy,
Speaker 2: one of our buddies, and John Legend in a house
Speaker 2: for three days.
Speaker 3: This is pretty awesome. Awesome Is John Legend is coolest? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 3: he comes across because every time cool like just the
Speaker 3: smoothest talking, the coolest, incredible human. It seems like just
Speaker 3: everything that I dreamt about.
Speaker 2: It couldn't be more normal and nicer and cooler, and well,
Speaker 2: the beauty of it was is one we would go.
Speaker 2: And again, I've only been once, so I'm not an
Speaker 2: expert on what you do when you get there, but
Speaker 2: everybody runs and puts their chairs down on a green
Speaker 2: because once that chair is there, they can go over
Speaker 2: they want, but no one can move that chair. That's
Speaker 2: their chair. So you have like your little master's chair.
Speaker 2: You go out, but once it's there, that's your spot.
Speaker 2: And so we didn't do that because we didn't know
Speaker 2: to do that. We didn't have chairs. We just thought
Speaker 2: we'll walk around. Well, if you wanted to follow like Tiger,
Speaker 2: or you wanted to see Tiger, it was difficult because man,
Speaker 2: the folks, oh man, it was a parade wherever they went,
Speaker 2: Tiger Phil. So we went and we sat on a green,
Speaker 2: me our friend Andy and John and we set on
Speaker 2: a green. It was on the back nine and maybe
Speaker 2: whatever a part three and we just bet which the
Speaker 2: golfers were closer to the whole hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's what we actually made it super entertaining.
Speaker 2: We just sat there and bet money the whole time
Speaker 2: with the two golfers to come up one hundred bucks,
Speaker 2: who gets closer and then if it was so close
Speaker 2: we couldn't tell, it would just be a wash carver. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And we all also played ping pong and then John
Speaker 2: would just sing at the.
Speaker 3: House private concerts amazing.
Speaker 2: He would just have his laptop open him that's a
Speaker 2: bit of doodoo bad day. It's obviously a singer, but
Speaker 2: he also loved to sing. And I just remember thinking,
Speaker 2: this is crazy, Like I'm playing Minnie tennis with a
Speaker 2: former number one in the world and I'm here sitting
Speaker 2: on a couch next to a Grammy winning singer who's
Speaker 2: just singing for an hour at a time on his computer,
Speaker 2: like just just typing up stuff we'd watch like sports
Speaker 2: at night, go to the masters of the daytime. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: I got nothing that really compares to that.
Speaker 2: And the great part about it was this is it's
Speaker 2: been probably eight nine years, I don't know ten years.
Speaker 2: You can't have phones in there, so nobody has as
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, because nobody stopped, but
Speaker 2: anybody for pictures. So Andy was against offer picture. John
Speaker 2: wasn against offp A pictures. There were no there were
Speaker 2: no pictures, so everybody could just move as they would
Speaker 2: when those two they're famous. They wouldn't have to worry
Speaker 2: about people going, hey can I get a picture? Everybody
Speaker 2: just lived. It's pretty sick.
Speaker 3: It's a little different than the Phoenix. Have you ever
Speaker 3: been there.
Speaker 2: I've not been. Oh my god, I went last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never seen anything like that. I mean it
Speaker 3: is like it's a nightclub during the day that starts
Speaker 3: early and does not stop. And I mean people talk
Speaker 3: about the exact opposite of the Masters. No phones, no music,
Speaker 3: You can't even lay down on the hill. I had
Speaker 3: a buddy that said his wife laid down on the
Speaker 3: hill for just a second length.
Speaker 2: Lean back.
Speaker 3: Guy comes up and says, the Masters wants you to
Speaker 3: please sit up. So like that there it is just
Speaker 3: full rage session. There's like a DJ booth in one
Speaker 3: of the things. I mean, people are throwing on the
Speaker 3: golf course. I'm going, what is going on right now?
Speaker 2: It's a great time. It's a great time. Yeah. That
Speaker 2: whole is it thirteen? The famous hole? Whatever it is
Speaker 2: where that? Yeah, that looks fun. I've had a bunch
Speaker 2: of friends who have played that hole in like the
Speaker 2: pro am leading up to it. Yes, that's that's cool.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, the people watching is unmasked.
Speaker 2: I mentioned a couple weeks ago I didn't have a
Speaker 2: favorite NFL team because I didn't grow up with one.
Speaker 2: In Arkansas, we didn't have an NFL team. Most people
Speaker 2: fell to the Cowboys because Jerry Jones was a former
Speaker 2: razorback football player, won a national championship at Arkansas and
Speaker 2: Dallas was close. But ever since everybody was a Cowboys
Speaker 2: fan and they were winning so much, I would not
Speaker 2: allow myself to be a Cowboys fan. So as much
Speaker 2: of an NFL fan as I am, I don't have
Speaker 2: a team, And I said, hey, I don't have a team.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be on a frontrunner, but I
Speaker 2: also don't want to be on somebody that's just going
Speaker 2: to be terrible forever. Like who should I pick? And
Speaker 2: we just threw it out there. Has Kevin? Have you
Speaker 2: heard from anybody? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Has anybody responded to that?
Speaker 6: I haven't heard directly to myself from anybody, but I
Speaker 6: went on your instagram, the NFL network instagram that posted
Speaker 6: the clip, and we've got some feedback from fans, but
Speaker 6: also a mascot.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a mascot that followed me, the Indiana follow me. Yes,
Speaker 2: And I wonder if that's why.
Speaker 6: Well, it is because he commented on yours, I believe
Speaker 6: and the NFL Network post and said where do I
Speaker 6: send the gear?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 3: Oh you're going to get a mascot. What's his name?
Speaker 2: Blue? I believe he's obviously a cult.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's.
Speaker 2: Of course, he's not sending me a mascot off to
Speaker 2: a mascot. He's going to send you gear that's going
Speaker 2: to be awesome. You're gonna have to put on the
Speaker 2: head gear. So would you do?
Speaker 6: I need to reply yeah, because I've tried to reach
Speaker 6: out to him multiple times and I can't DM him
Speaker 6: unless he follows me. I'm trying to get him followed back.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm not cool enough. I guess his name
Speaker 6: is Blue, so blue.
Speaker 4: If you're out there and you're listening, give me follow back.
Speaker 4: Let's set this up man.
Speaker 2: I'll just message him because he does follow And I wondered,
Speaker 2: why is the Colts mascot following me? So okay, so
Speaker 2: far the culture in the lead.
Speaker 3: Culture in the lead.
Speaker 6: A lot of Raiders fans, I will say that, like,
Speaker 6: like fans fans are like, come on, join the dark side,
Speaker 6: Join the dark side.
Speaker 3: It's so far away though, Yeah, but Vegas is fun
Speaker 3: to go too. Let's be honest, is it. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 3: take Bruise with us. Yeah, guaranteed he gets calmed to
Speaker 3: everywhere he goes.
Speaker 2: So in this final segment, I have a top five
Speaker 2: list of players who I think belong in a boy
Speaker 2: band if we were creating an NFL boy band. Okay,
Speaker 2: at number five, Travis Kelcey. He's a confident one who
Speaker 2: does all the talking and interviews. Yes, he's, in his
Speaker 2: mind one hundred the hottest one. And he's the first
Speaker 2: one to go solo, like later on he breaks off
Speaker 2: and go solo first. And definitely a great dancer too. Yes,
Speaker 2: so like he's got he's got all the qualities you
Speaker 2: look for for sure in my NFL boy band. Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 2: Next up Justin Jefferson. Now, why well, he's the fun
Speaker 2: one that actually knows how to dance. There's always one
Speaker 2: that's really good at dancing, that has like a background
Speaker 2: in dance. Yes, and Justin Jefferson, I mean he's the
Speaker 2: gritty that's him.
Speaker 3: He is. He actually invented, yes, a whole dance, touchdown
Speaker 3: dance my kids do.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's taken the world by storm. Next up, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: He's the pretty one. I can see that he's the
Speaker 2: pretty boy lead singer. He's a Nicholas Say He's the
Speaker 2: justin Timberlake. Yeah, I like that, even though Jay c
Speaker 2: shaw Za was really the heart and soul Evan sync
Speaker 2: like Timberlake was the face. He's the Nick Carter.
Speaker 3: You need a face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian McCaffrey is our face. Every mom would say
Speaker 2: that's that's my favorite. Every guy would secretly like love him,
Speaker 2: but have to say he hated him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like him, but you listen to the
Speaker 3: song all the time when nobody's in the car.
Speaker 2: Jordan and I. He's the Jordan and I to this group.
Speaker 2: Next up Ceedee Lamb. Now ceedee Lamb, Ceedee Lamb. He's
Speaker 2: the smooth one that's got like all the trip right.
Speaker 2: Like he's the one that wears the clothes a little different,
Speaker 2: but he does do that fashion icon like he's the
Speaker 2: one that people look at and go, yeah, that dude
Speaker 2: is the style part of that boy band. Can still
Speaker 2: kill the dance routines, probably at times a shirtless on
Speaker 2: the album cover too, Like.
Speaker 3: For sure you gotta have at least or at least
Speaker 3: completely unbuttoned.
Speaker 2: Some abs are being show by ce d Lamb. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and my final member of my NFL boy band is
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: I could have guessed that, because every every boy band
Speaker 2: needs a bad boy.
Speaker 3: You need a bad boy, you need different color hair,
Speaker 3: you know, the different suits, the swag, the drip that
Speaker 3: he comes along with a Donnie Wahlberg.
Speaker 2: He's it of new Kids on the Block, but of
Speaker 2: our group. Right here, he like smokes a cigar in
Speaker 2: the music video where sunglasses inside, he's too cool to dance.
Speaker 2: Everybody else is dancing, and he's kind of like, nah,
Speaker 2: I'm good, he's solid.
Speaker 3: That was a solid pick right there. I was definitely
Speaker 3: gonna say, you better have Joe Burrow in there.
Speaker 2: That's my NFL boy band right there. Tell me that
Speaker 2: would it's I don't know they can sing, but tell
Speaker 2: me that would it? Well, I don't really what do
Speaker 2: you think? That wouldn't do much? But still I like
Speaker 2: I like everybody.
Speaker 3: I like the dynamics right now. Yeah, we've got some
Speaker 3: good comms right there. Solid in all different phases.
Speaker 2: Weird done. We appreciate everybody for hanging out. If you
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Speaker 2: would be super cool. We'd love it. I don't know
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Speaker 2: so much. That's Matt. Thanks to kick Off Kevin. Thanks
Speaker 2: to Read, who's leaving in a few weeks. Dang Reading,
Speaker 2: he's out of here, Reads moving to Saint Louis?
Speaker 3: Is he really he's gone gone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's leaving the job like Read's moving for how
Speaker 2: many years? Five? Yeah, five years? But my guy travels
Speaker 2: with me, so Reads out getting married with St.
Speaker 3: Louis. His wife's well, congratulations me a doctor, which nothing
Speaker 3: but the best.
Speaker 2: We'll not forget him as soon he's out of here.
Speaker 2: But it's cool right now, let still give you some
Speaker 2: shout outs. Yeah, thanks to Bruce Buffer for coming on.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, guys. And that's it for this week.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I got nothing, nothing else to say,
Speaker 2: nothing to say, nothing to say, but we usually have
Speaker 2: lots to say. Boom and we're out, see you guys.
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