1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to another of the Giants little podcast, brought to 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. I 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: am John Schmow, joined by the executive director of the 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Panini Senior Ball Drew Fabianic. What's on, man? 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: How are you beat down one hundred and twenty seven 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: flight changes to get these guys here because of the 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: ice storm, because of the whatever, snowstorm, what do you 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: want to call it? But the biggest piece was the 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: ice in Dallas and the snow and Charlotte and we 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: had to you know, we had to scramble. And it 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: was not trust me. It was not just my efforts. 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: It was efforts of everybody in the office. But we 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: got them all here. I mean, yesterday we got were 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: mellow in finally Brinson from SMU Network, We're good, absolutely. 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: I mean I was at an airport in Dallas for 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: twelve hours on Monday trying to get here. Four took 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: four I was on four different flights. Finally got in. 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: We're all here, though, That's what matters. So it's funny 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: we're sitting here in the convention center and all the 20 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: scouts are walking by us to go to meetings with 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: these players. Yeah, do you feel weird that you're not 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: one of these scouts going to these meetings with these players, 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: or you justin a non scot Oh, I'm not missing 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: that at all at all. But put this way, all 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: of them are thrilled that it's in the morning. I mean, 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: because it used to be from seven to like eleven, 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: and now it's we do it all in the morning, 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: and now after practice they're done, you know, and I 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: know they're going to dinner. I know they're having a 30 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: good time. I mean, I know they're you know, working 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: together as a scouting staff. But I mean I think 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: it's good. But no, I trust me, I don't miss 33 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: that at all. Then not that part, not that part, 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: and I'm scratching that itch by I evaluate these guys anyway. 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: So I'm good. Well that was even my question. With 36 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: everything you're doing, I'm not sure the busiest person here. 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: That might be Molly Middleton. She might be the busiest 38 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: person here this week. Jared Gilmore. Okay, so maybe the 39 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: third busiest person, Yeah, this week? Think how much football 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: do you actually get to watch as you're kind of 41 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: making your rounds and doing all the work you have 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: to do while practices are going on third practice. 43 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably got thirty minutes of the first practice 44 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: yesterday and I probably got forty five minutes of the 45 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: second practice yesterday. But we did have every single general 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: manager was here except for except for uh, Jacksonville and 47 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: the Rams Okay, those yellow two that didn't show and. 48 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: The Giants because he's trying to fill yos well hard. 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: Yes, and I and I'm good with that. Yes, but 50 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: we also had now again, I know we're gonna have 51 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: a lot today too. I think there were twelve head 52 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: coaches there yesterday. That's great, you know. Plus we had 53 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: a gold jacket on the sideline. I don't know if 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: you noticed, dream Yeah I missed that. Who was on 55 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: the sideline? 56 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Jason Taylor? Oh okay, you heart the mess? Yeah? Yeah. 57 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Usually last year when the sun was here, I know, 58 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: it's yeah. 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know again he thought he thought Ruben and 60 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: you know Messa Door were going to be here too, 61 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: you know, but again I don't think again, it's it's 62 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: hard for some of those guys because that was like 63 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: twenty seven weeks. The season goes so long, twenty seven weeks. 64 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: I mean those guys were beat up. I mean, you know, 65 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: they called me in and put his way. Everybody said, well, 66 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: you announced him, you know, one day and he and 67 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: he pulled off next No, we announced it. He took 68 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: the invitation Ruby Maine took the invitation and started December. 69 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean he wanted to play. I mean, I recruited 70 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: the kid at Auburn. I mean, and I know him 71 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: really well. I mean know the family. I mean, he's 72 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: a competitor, he's a warrior. He just told me, he said, look, fabe, 73 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: he says, he said, I'm so beat up. He says, 74 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: I can't even see straight. 75 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: You know. 76 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: He said, I just said, I just want to heal 77 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: for a little bit. I was like, dude, I said, 78 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm fine, because I'm fine. So no, absolutely's funny. I 79 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: was talking to Caln Black yesterday and I was talking Tom, I'm. 80 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: Like, how you doing this? So you're a running back 81 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: and you still came here. I'm like, I wouldn't blame 82 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: any of the Indiana gas manny guys, even some of 83 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: the other guys that went far in the college football playoffs. 84 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: It's so tight it stings. You love to add me 85 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: here to watch him, but you understand at the same time. 86 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I'm kind of like I'm kind of 87 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: in the mindset of Dan Lanning. I think I think 88 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: that was a phenomenal idea, you know, making sure that 89 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: they're done before the portal even starts and having it 90 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: done by January one. We used to do that. I mean, 91 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: wasn't it like New Year's Day? Bowl games were like 92 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: the last ones? Right? 93 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, I know. 94 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: We're doing this for money's sake, and I get that, 95 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: but it can be push up. I mean, and put 96 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: this way, how many of those Bowl games actually have 97 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: any players that actually had played during the season of 98 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: them anymore? They don't play, right, I don't play. So 99 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: push push the bowl games to the start in August, 100 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: sprinkle it and however you may rotate teams whatever, but 101 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: then pushed the season up and then have it in 102 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: by January Warren have it and then guess what, then 103 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: your calendar is not screwed up, and you're not put 104 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: this way, you're not in the National Championship Game trying 105 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: to get players to come into your building. 106 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: By god, I mean Indian and Miami. What a that 107 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: would be so hard. 108 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: You're setting up official visits with guys to come in 109 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: your building when you start, we're still in practice for 110 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: the National Championship. 111 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how messed up is that? Now? It is? 112 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: It is not a good say. And guess what, I'm 113 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: not in the NCAA. I'm not the commission of the 114 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: SEC or the Big Ten. But you can make that 115 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: happen if you want. 116 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. 117 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: I'd love to run the SEC. I really would, you know. 118 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I love Greg Sanki, but yeah, please sign 119 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: me up for that. I'd love to run the SEC. 120 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, So let's talk about some of the players, 121 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: either from what you've seen, are from what some NFL 122 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: scouts and general managers have told you, Who are some 123 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: of the guys that that maybe have really flashed that 124 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: maybe people weren't expecting to flash, that have really kind 125 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: of helped themselves you think so far early this week. 126 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what I think that And again 127 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: this is what they said. And you know, and I 128 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: thought I was being a little biased when I thought 129 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: the same thing. I don't think there's a guy that's 130 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: out of place on this roster at all. And normally 131 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: you come in and you know, whether it's you know, 132 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 2: any All Star game, you go, yeah, that guy probably 133 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: didn't belong there. You know, well, I think everybody belongs 134 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: you know the kid from you know John Carroll, you 135 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: know the Tyrone Montgomery, one of they two or three 136 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: receivers here. I mean, he's shown that he's belonged. I 137 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: mean Ted Hurst has shown that he's belonged. I mean, 138 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Charles Deming has been really good. I mean, you know 139 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: at corner, I mean, which I kind of knew was 140 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: going to happen. But again, I can't believe he was 141 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: a Stephen f last year. I mean I would pull 142 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: his ass out in the second to be in a 143 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: P four school. I talked to him to you, by 144 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: the way, what character? Oh that kidding right, He's a 145 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: great kit. Malachi Fields has done a really good job. 146 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: Jayden Hodd has. 147 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: Shown up and past protection he's been yeah, I'm a yeah. 148 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: And the thing was, see I went off of his 149 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: cow tape and I also went off because I tried 150 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: to sign him out of the portal when I was 151 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: in West Virginia. So I was like, I knew what 152 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: he was. I was like, okay, you know, he doesn't 153 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: have a lot of production. 154 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: I found out why. 155 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: Jim told me. I was like, Okay, good, We're good. 156 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: I'll invite him. Gosh A Natcha the tackle from Arizona State. 157 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: You know, like you said, Darryl Jackson had a good 158 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: rep yesterday, but be you know, you know, Stevens Dunker, 159 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: I mean, all those dudes in the offensive line, I mean, 160 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: Tayler runt Ledge. I mean, they've all shown up, you know, 161 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: and it's been a really good group. Zion Young, you know, 162 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: has done a really good job. Argie More from Michigan. Yeah, 163 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: and did TJ. 164 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: Parker. 165 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, and we talked about this. I 166 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: mean the ends of Romelo I mean Romelo hype. I 167 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: mean it just goes on and on and on, because 168 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: you know, these dudes are These dudes are dudes, and 169 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: they're showing they are. And that's what I'm thrilled about. 170 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: The backers have been good. I mean I hadn't seen 171 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Oh Kyle lewis my god, I mean two picks already 172 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: if I remember right? 173 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: What is he is? 174 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: A will linebacker? Is he a big nickel or is 175 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: he a strong safety? I mean he can play it 176 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: all and he's impactful. I mean he's done a really 177 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: good job. Killgo or the safety you know, the the kid, 178 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't remember. I'm sorry blanking on the 179 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Oregon State kid that I had it. He had a 180 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: great day yesterday too, you know, yeah, the safety you're 181 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: talking about real, Yeah, he had a great day yester too. 182 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: So I mean, pretty pleased with with a lot of them, 183 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: you know. And you know, I could go on and on, 184 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm being biased, you know, but you 185 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: know I'm not because I kind of knew what these 186 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: guys were when I when I was bringing them in. 187 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: So watch him in practice, I'd love to see more. 188 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: I just get told in so many different directions that 189 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, I got to handle this. I gotta handle that, 190 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and again my staff is wonderful, 191 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: but you know, I got to take care of some 192 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: things sometimes. 193 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Hoddle up, get in here. You're lined up here. You 194 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: gotta go over the middle with at the score great. 195 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: How do we make that happen? 196 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, but Citizen does makes sense of your 197 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: money with citizens Official Bank of Eli Manning. 198 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: Of course. I mean you mentioned the Edgeburber, and that 199 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: to me is what what's really stood out. I think 200 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Romelo height. I'm gonna put him to a separate group. 201 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: Is he's kind of like your twitchyer, smaller speed rusher. Well, 202 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: he's I think he's an outside background three Ford. I think. 203 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: I think the worst he is is a situational pass 204 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: rush guy. The worst, the worst he is. 205 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: I agree, and I remember he I talked to him 206 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: to days. He goes if I want to show teams, 207 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: like I said, because he wants to be more than 208 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: that writing. But your your group of powerful edge rushers, 209 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: right you go from you met, you mentioned TJ Parker, 210 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: Zion Young. I know More is not the biggest guy, 211 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: but he plays a great power. Does Danny did As 212 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Sutton for Penn State. Absolutely, he's a power. The amount 213 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: of long arm bull rushers I've seen Tory one on 214 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: one and you just we haven't seen that those guys 215 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: with that body type of that position as many of 216 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: them come out in recent years. I think it's a 217 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: very unique group in that. 218 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: Well, I agree, and I'll tell you what I and 219 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: I know you probably noticed this too. My bias also 220 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: showed up a receiver and also showed up at corner 221 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: because I got some monsters at receiver. I got some 222 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: monsters at corner. You know, there's not there's not many 223 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: dudes at corner right now that are below five eleven. Okay, 224 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: not many, I think als two. 225 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: You know. 226 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: So, I mean you're right about the edge rushing group, 227 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: but I think the corners are a little underrated. I 228 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: also think that the tight end group is a really 229 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: good group this year too, not just I mean not 230 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: just here, but in the draft overall. 231 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: Is that a flashy tight end group? Though they just 232 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: good football player? Yeah, but there's but there's a there's 233 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: there's something that put this way. I think there's three 234 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: legitimate hy tight ends in this group. And I can't 235 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: remember many years that we sat there and hey, how 236 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: many wives are out there? They weren't. There weren't a 237 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: lot of them. 238 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of FH type guys. 239 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: But now it's like we got guys that can kind 240 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: of do everything. I mean, Nate Bulkircher, I mean, you know, 241 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean Waves is an FA each guy. But you know, 242 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: even Raush, I mean, those those are guys stick their 243 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: hand in the dirt and naked lak. I mean, you know, 244 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: Kats Merrick, I mean he's a why I mean, you know, 245 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: you like guys like that, you know, and then I 246 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: got sprinkling of the Jolly's. You know, the Quaviss are 247 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: FH guys. So I think it's good group. Always he 248 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: old right, and another guy he's an FHU, you're asked. 249 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: I mean, all of them are shown up and they've 250 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,479 Speaker 2: done a really good job. Now some of them can't, 251 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, kiss cannot set an edge, you know that's 252 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: not there. 253 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: But in three years maybe they'll get there. 254 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: That maybe, So there's three that can, right, you know 255 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: what I mean already, So, I mean I've been thrilled 256 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: with that group too. So again you're right, I love 257 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: the defensive ends. But I'll tell you a love thing too. 258 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: There's there's probably three starting safeties in the league in 259 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 2: this group two. I think, who do you like it? 260 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: Safety? Oh? 261 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: I like Psychi, I mean I like Ramsey, I mean Gosh, 262 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: I like kill Gore. I mean I like Seriously, I 263 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: think that safety group is a really good crew. 264 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: You know. 265 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: Now they're different types. Like Zich he's a free kill 266 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: Gore's wrong, you know. I mean, Ramsey's cut Ramses both, 267 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: you know, so that's a good thing for him. But 268 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: but like I said, thrill to death with the with 269 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: this group so far, and and again, I'm not blowing 270 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: smoke up you know myself or whatever. But you know, 271 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: I always got a really good group of evaluators. I 272 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: got a really good group of area scouts. I have 273 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: to group it the scouting assistance that this isn't a 274 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 2: one man show. But of course, but I can tell 275 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: you I've watched every damn player that's on this roster. 276 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: You know a couple of positions that you mentioned, the corners, 277 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I thought the Ohio State corner even this inside a 278 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: really good couple of days. And he hasn't a flag 279 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: thrown on him, man, which I know is important to 280 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: him heading into this joke, heading into this And I 281 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: think I think he had one yesterday. Yes, I must 282 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: have missed. 283 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: I was watching it because I was in the I 284 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: was in the back end standard right. 285 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: I think he did, Okay, I did. I think Chris 286 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: John's from San Diego State. Man, Oh, like that guy 287 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: is in fleet, like he is ketchup speed. He he 288 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: gets his head around to play the ball in the air. 289 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's I think it's a really good group. 290 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: I think that, like you said, what what makes what 291 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: makes Chris Johnson good? And again, I love this tape. 292 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: He matches routes really well. It's very No, he's got 293 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: he's got a really good instinct about you know, just 294 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: reading hips and playing off of hips really well. I 295 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: mean Demings has played well. I mean gosh, I mean 296 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: you know Colin, I mean Stanford, He's played well. I 297 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: mean again, I didn't really see a guy that you know, 298 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: you went like he had a bad day. I mean 299 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: most of them had pretty good days, really had t J. 300 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: Halls had good you know, good week. Yeah, you know, 301 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: I mean again, I got a lot of monsters out there. 302 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: I mean Efia, I mean you know, yeah, Apicius has 303 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: done a really good job too. Price he's six four 304 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: big gut ah way, yes, and again there's my bias. 305 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the wide receiver groups. I 306 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: think it's a good mix, right. You have a number 307 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: of monsters the Malachi Feels, Jacobe Lean from from usc 308 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: and then you have a bunch of smaller guys that 309 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: can separate. 310 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Right. I think Kevin Coleman from Missouri's had had a 311 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: really nice Kevin Coleman has been unreloved for a ball. 312 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: No one has been on cover. 313 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: No, that's not one person, not one person. H he 314 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: put this way, he's made a case for him to 315 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: be a starting slot in the NFL. Hands out, it's 316 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: not even close because seriously, nobody's covered him yet. 317 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: Nobody. I'm both that was you. Receivers have shown their 318 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: quickness in their speed, and I know we talked about earlier, 319 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: but that's Hiram Montgomery. Man. Like his first rep in 320 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: one on ones I believe was against Coltonhood, who could 321 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: be a first round pick. Right, No, Sulton will be 322 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: a first round pick. He breaks off him. He breaks 323 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: him off on a little comeback on the sideline. Hood 324 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: still running back. He's coming in. He caught a deep 325 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: pass on Johnson yesterday. Well, Johnson played good coverage, but 326 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Montgomery just made the play. His ability to separate contested 327 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: catches a little bit of everything. I know he used 328 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: to coaches and GM's coming out of John Carroll. But 329 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: he's a player. Oh, he's a player. I mean. And 330 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't me. 331 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean, those guys identified him at the American Bowl 332 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: and I just I just pulled him because they called 333 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: me some this guy's for real. So I watched him 334 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: and I was like, he really is for real. I'll 335 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: bet you. Now again, I don't know if he'll get 336 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: a combine in by because I'm pretty sure he probably 337 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: didn't get ridden to start out with. Well he might 338 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: get one now, Well say I'll bet I'll bet he 339 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: goes forty two and avert. I'll bet you he does. 340 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: I mean I saw him just damn, I just bounce. 341 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, and again, that's what I always tell people, 342 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: that's what I always look for. 343 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: Just kind of got bounced. 344 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just that easy athletic ability. He's got burst, 345 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: you got quickness, you know, and everything else got separation quick. 346 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I like the player, and he's tam he's brutal. 347 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: He belonged like day one, and I'm in thrilled for 348 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: him because it's a hell of a story too. I Mean, 349 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: I got he was he was an LSU basketball commit 350 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: and he had to he had to not go because 351 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: his mother got ill. Right, I think his mother passed. 352 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: I think this year if I remember, right, you know, 353 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: just hearing you know the backstory, and the kid went 354 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: to John Carroll and you know, did a really good 355 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: job and you know, gets an invite to the American 356 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: Bull which they did a great job job identifying Scott Phillips, 357 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: you know director down there. I mean, great job. I mean, 358 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: because I didn't know about him until then. I didn't 359 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: And and again I'm not taking credit for it at 360 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: all because I don't. It's it's not me. Yeah, I 361 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: mean it was now of course. But I did watch 362 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: the tape and I went, I was like, yeah, he's real, 363 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: let's go. 364 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: You know. The other guy joked out of me, who 365 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: I did not watch before I got here, Cale Douglas. 366 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: H's six to three. The way he gets in and 367 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: out of breaks at that height, it's something a little 368 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: bit different that you don't see from guys that usually 369 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: are that long. Yeah, him and Ted Hurst, all right, 370 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean both the hearst has been great. I mean 371 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: they're both long. 372 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: But like you said, it's hard for guys with that 373 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: long of limbs to get in and out of, you know, 374 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: in and out of their braks. 375 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: You know. 376 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: Well, but those guys sink well, they they're flexible, they're 377 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: not tight, you know, and and they got good foot 378 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: speed in and out, which helps, you know, because normally 379 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: those guys are long striders that take them while to 380 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: you know, turn them over. But you know, they've both 381 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: been good. I mean ted Hurst is, you know, showing 382 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: that he belongs to I mean, it's not even like 383 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: I said, I kind of knew that was coming. But 384 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: I can't take credit for him either. Drew Hughes. That 385 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: was one of my Aria scals. Now he's at Florida 386 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: John Summraw, you know, which is a great move for him, 387 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: a great move for John too. He just told me 388 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: he's like an October. 389 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: He says. 390 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Hey, he says, I really like this guy. And I go, 391 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: I haven't watched him yet, you know, and he goes, 392 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: he goes, make sure you do, and sure, sure enough, 393 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: I went in next day and I was like, I 394 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: was like, Drew dicely done, dude, I was like, you 395 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: asked like and he was and he was. And again 396 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm not bashing them, but they weren't a very good 397 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: football team and one and a lot and I mean, yeah, 398 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: but he was productive, yeah, of course. 399 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: And and dude, he can run. I mean I'm going 400 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: to bet four or five three right in there. 401 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: You know he can run. I mean for a long 402 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: guy that can run. I mean, and like you said, 403 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean the big monsters and you know Caleb I love. 404 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I invited him quickly. Now the only guy 405 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: we're only missing one guy from Texas Tech. One guy. 406 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: That's it. 407 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: That's it, and and you know, and that's Bailey, you know. 408 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: And I half ass expected that righto coming, So you know. 409 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: But it's been good. If you want to know how 410 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: to manage two minutes of crunch time football, I'm your man. 411 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan, 412 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: you should talk to Citizens. 413 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: Hey, I can also talk long care. 414 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to learn about an Molly routine. Yes, I 415 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: knew it. Help make sense of your money with citizens. 416 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: Final question, I was down there with you watching all 417 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: one D line one on one s yesterday. Things got 418 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: a litle hot. Guys are competing a little bit, So 419 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: where do you draw the lines. I think you want 420 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the guys to compete. You want them to really want 421 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: to beat the other guys, talk a little trash, get 422 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: into it. But towards the end there was a little 423 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: extra cricular stuff. You probably want to avoid that. So 424 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: how do you try to keep the enthusiasm, keep the energy, 425 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: but also try to limit anything extra that might take 426 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: away from the practice. 427 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's just what I tell them, is I mean, 428 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: I want them to protect each other, you know, because 429 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: again and that's that's not protecting each other. I mean, 430 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: I get the whole you know, I I'm you know, 431 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to compete, but you know, don't take it 432 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: to that point. I mean, yeah, if you got your 433 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: ass kick, you know, take it like a man. Line 434 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: up and you know, line up the next rep, grab 435 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: the same guy you can, you can double the rep up. 436 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, they do that all of us. 437 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: We saw that with Darrecus Jackson and the IOWA kid 438 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: was Jackson put him right on his keyster. Yeah, and 439 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: then the Iowa came back, pulled them right down on 440 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: the next one. And that's how you do it. That's 441 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: how you do it. 442 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 2: And both right after that, but both that because you know, 443 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: and and again I was not surprised, you weren't, Eve, 444 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: I go, yeah, that's Iowa. I mean, that's just how 445 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: they operate. I mean, and coach Farrence has always had 446 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: great offensive linemen. I mean, they're always well coached, and 447 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: they always have the same damn demeanor. And they're all 448 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: tough guys, I mean, like gritty tough. 449 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, so I didn't I did. I wasn't surprise 450 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: at all. Now, thesends in Dunkler ran a couple double 451 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: teams in those rangerells. 452 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: They were moving guys ten yards few and you could 453 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: tally work together before. I mean, yeah, you know I 454 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: can tell these guys I said, just protect each other. 455 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: That's the bottom line. I mean, you know, don't go, 456 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: don't take that shot, you know, because this is I 457 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: want everybody to walk out of here healthy. 458 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: I do. 459 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: And that's what I've told the agents. That's what I've 460 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: told everybody. I mean, there's a reason why the roster 461 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 2: is as big as it is because they're only going 462 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: to get fifteen snaps in the game, right, That's it. 463 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: They get more red play at quarter right, get Yeah, 464 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: they get more reps in one day of practice than they. 465 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: Will any other part of it. Yeah. Final question I 466 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: told the last one was finally you said it was fine. 467 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I know. I sorry. We talked about how great the 468 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: edge group is and you mentioned the guy's name before 469 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: the one Gassman all of the block him all week 470 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: is he I am a shore kid out of he's 471 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: been phenomenal, I think, as in terms of the offensive lineman, 472 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: I think the Washington offensive lineman has been good. Two 473 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: was playing Guarden center for the first time in his life. 474 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I talked to him a couple of days ago. W 475 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: LEMU playing center for the first time too. It was 476 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: the first time he's got the center. Also less that 477 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: I am a shore man. He's very talented. Yeah, I'm 478 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: glad you pronounced it because I still haven't pronounced it. 479 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: I went through it with somebody about four times. Jef 480 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: sayd finally get it right, so it don't feel bad, 481 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: you know. It was funny. 482 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: Is he doesn't have a lot of football background, know, 483 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: he does not, you know, and he's raw, but man, 484 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: he's long, he's athletic, I mean, and his posture has 485 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: gotten so much better. He's not over his toes, he's 486 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: not losing his balance on me, and his sets have 487 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: been really good. And he's starting to understand how to 488 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: use his length, you know, and which is it's nice 489 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: to see. 490 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean. 491 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: And whoever he's working with, I mean, I think he 492 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: might be working with uh. I think he may be 493 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: working with Duke in Dallas all on Mastermind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 494 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: I think he may be working with two and again 495 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: I hope, I hope that's the case. I mean, you 496 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: can give credit work credit it's not due, but you 497 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: know he's done a really good job. He really has 498 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: thirty four and a half in troms, yeah doubt, no doubt. 499 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: And and the average is what front. 500 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Offensive lineman or a tackle or tackle I'll say what 501 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: thirty three and a half thirty four, thirty four thirty four, Yeah, 502 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: that's the median. 503 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: So yep, he fits right in and he looks good. 504 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: Sure, this is a pleasure man. Good luck the rest 505 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: of the week. Thank he's at the time that had 506 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: a podcast brought to you by Citizens. You're Fabiani Actuti, 507 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: director of the Pity and he senior ball