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Speaker 1: gonna have some fun, yes, I think. Guest John Gruden

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Speaker 1: John Gruden, he joined the show last week. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: us out. We're gonna be talking some NFL football. Well mate,

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Speaker 1: we won't preview a whole lot of the collegewall playoff

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Speaker 4: Who'd you get that message from?

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Speaker 1: The boys? Oh? Yeah, the tribe? Yeah, the try The

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Speaker 4: Vogg will be coming out the following week.

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Speaker 1: Surem you think both of these teams are frauds.

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Speaker 4: He's always said, he said since we've met him, that

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Speaker 1: Throughout the season, you'd almost assume, like, I.

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Speaker 5: Think Indiana has benefited off of their schedule. I think

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Speaker 5: without a doubt, this is their last chance. If you

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Speaker 4: They're in the playoff LSU. Here's a question for everybody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree you were holding up too, weren't you. JP. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a that's a respect you're saying, that is a football

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Speaker 1: They're a team to be in a run?

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Speaker 4: To you? Is they beating Notre Dame?

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Speaker 4: They still out against Who would they play next? Who

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Speaker 1: No, it's not Georgia. Georgia is on the Uh that

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Speaker 4: Us football podcast. Here we are who they play? S

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Speaker 1: I think it depends on how they played Georgia. If

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Speaker 4: Okay, they'll beat Notre Dame. They'll beat Notre Dame. With

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Speaker 1: Get smacked.

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Speaker 5: That Navy quarterback had a great game, a great game.

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Speaker 1: That's the where you got to throw it all out

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Speaker 5: That's Army Navy.

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Speaker 4: Why records go out the window? We saw it with

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Speaker 5: Record breaking performance by that Navy quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. Yeah, I just thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Let me gets their ass beat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go over the little quick prediction, Just a

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Speaker 4: right there, Oh State Tennessee, your first art.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to save it for the locker room.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to see it right at any research.

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Speaker 1: I'm up in the air on on Ohio State Tennessee

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Speaker 1: I'm up in the air. I think Ohio State is

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Speaker 1: that they've had and losing the Michigan.

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Speaker 4: I think they're broken. I think they're broken very well,

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Speaker 4: be by three scores. Here's here's one boiler alert for

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Speaker 4: the locker room. I'm not going to waiver on this,

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Speaker 4: even if everything I look at tells me differently. I

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Speaker 4: And I fully expect Tennessee to plant their flag in

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Speaker 4: the middle of Columbus, Ohio before it becomes a felony.

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Speaker 4: That's what that's That's what I say. They're gonna get

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Speaker 1: Just send some fans of Columbus Ohio while this game

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Speaker 4: Plant the flag immediately. And if you're a volunteer, if

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Speaker 1: I did lose the bet. You're big, You're a big man. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because some people want to work through right now.

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Speaker 4: And also drafting has been really good to us too.

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Speaker 4: God, did you imagine get that email like you just

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Speaker 4: Lawsuit?

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Chiefs in Minnesota. Sneak. It's Minnesota sneaking,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're letting you know that they handled it. They're

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Speaker 4: True, I mean Saquon Barkley, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 4: But if you're if you're twelve and two, is a

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Speaker 4: The quarterbacks auditioned out to everybody. Something big, something big,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they have a they have a Jalen Carter

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Speaker 1: Who was it? No, it wasn't talking about Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: You almost played they played the Steelers, Your Eagles played

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Speaker 4: Just popped up with Miles Garrett yeah, yeahs off lineman.

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Speaker 5: Miles Garrett is an edgdresher for the Cleveland Brown. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I'll lock in with the Lucy one day, locking with

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Speaker 1: Get diald in, diald in.

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Speaker 5: Miles Garrett did rip his helmet off in a like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he got injured.

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Speaker 5: But that's different than what you guys that were.

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Speaker 8: Do they have the best vibe right now with everyone

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is to look it up.

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Speaker 4: Like they should be thinking to themselves, boys, we can

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Speaker 1: It might be we think that way. It's just funny

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Speaker 4: God do you imagine if got padded like that?

437
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh? I mean that's the thing though, like the Rabel

438
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 1: ain't getting treated like again. I don't want to say

439
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 1: too much because Sirianna can be a great he could,

440
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 1: he could be a great guy.

441
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 4: The show could be absolutely love to have him on

442
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 4: the show.

443
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:42,719
Speaker 1: Someday.

444
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about it. Hey, are you respected? Yeah, that's

445
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 4: that's the question.

446
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

447
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 4: But the NFC is the most interesting playoff picture there

448
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 4: is because with the AFC, it's like you just got

449
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 4: to think the Chiefs are gonna do it again.

450
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: No, yeah, Bills are the team.

451
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 4: If if the Bills would have just lost the regular

452
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 4: season game against the Chiefs, I would agree with you.

453
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: Do you think the Bills are wop the Chiefs? I

454
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 1: think so too. It's like if you watch the Chiefs Browns,

455
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,199
Speaker 1: even the moments that the Chiefs have the opportunity to

456
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: step on their throat and really just outscore, they haven't

457
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 1: scored over over thirty points the entire year, over thirty points.

458
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: That's that correct. The Bills have scored thirty points in

459
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Speaker 1: like six straight and they beat the Chiefs. Yeah. Yeah,

460
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm just the opportunity to step on a team like

461
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 1: the Browns throat. They fail to do. So they do

462
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 1: win twenty one to seven, But there's just something about

463
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Just don't think they do it this year.

464
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 4: Man, Just when's he gonna learn? Just win? Is he

465
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 4: gonna learn? I do love the Bills. I love Josh Allen.

466
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 4: I love the way that team's operating. The hype video

467
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 4: from Detroit, Detroit versus the Bills. You see ahih video

468
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 4: on Twitter. It was like a back and forth about

469
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Speaker 4: two cities.

470
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: And the teams talking, yeah, campbelling, and it just it

471
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: just fires you up.

472
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's not a lot going up there. Buffalo

473
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: was there for a wedding back in twenty twenty fifteen.

474
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: Not a lot going.

475
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 4: They got the bills, That's what they got.

476
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: They got the bills with cheese, which is disgusting. But

477
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: in the uh, in the Eagles game, to t J Watt,

478
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 1: do we know how bad that injury is with him?

479
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: It looks like a foot right, you lose t J Watt,

480
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: it is over for the Steelers, you.

481
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 4: Do is he is so? He is so incredible.

482
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: You know that entire game He's sitting next to fucking

483
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: Max too. God, he was ready to kill somebody. But

484
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: NFC West, t J.

485
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Speaker 4: Watt's injury not long term, probably good for the playoffs

486
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: at least. Yeah, I mean he's he's He's a Watt dude.

487
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 4: He'll be back. He'll have the dear Antler spray, He'll

488
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 4: have all the things he needs to get done. To

489
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 4: get back on whatever it takes, whatever it takes legally, legally,

490
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 4: it never got popped for a drug test like me.

491
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 4: They he will be back on the field.

492
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Speaker 1: He'll be smart about it.

493
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll have that BPC whatever, the new version of

494
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 4: BPC one. Yeah, I think that they done. You're talking about.

495
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: AFC West, the NFC West, NFC West once again wide open.

496
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: Seahawks had a big opportunity to beat the Packers and

497
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: remain the top dog there and again the Cardinals win

498
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. That like that division between the Rams,

499
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the forty nine Ers, and the Seahawks is

500
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: wide open, and I have no clue who's gonna come

501
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: out on top. I really don't.

502
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's sad, but I think the forty nine

503
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: Ers are not the team that's gonna come out on

504
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 4: top of that.

505
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: You say that, but you just never fucking know.

506
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 4: You never know.

507
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: I think is the Rams or the Seahawks. But again

508
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: with the Niners, you never know because that staff, they

509
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: they still got the guys every by something about they're

510
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: injured or this or that, like they could just for

511
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: whatever reason come alive.

512
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, the Niners have to win the last three

513
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: games of the season just to make it in. And

514
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 4: they do the linebacker saying he's not gonna play. What's

515
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 4: the kid's name? I say, his kid like a kid,

516
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 4: like he's like not three years younger than me, but

517
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: like that. That is insane to say you're not going

518
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 4: to play football game acainst your feelings are hurt.

519
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that? No? I haven't.

520
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: No, you've heard about guys going in the locker room

521
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 4: at halftime. They're twelve year vets. They say, hey, it's

522
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 4: not in I don't have it anymore. To me, it's like, hey,

523
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: you just play the last thirty minutes and then retire

524
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 4: after the game. But to say you're just not going

525
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 4: to play a game because Greenlaw comes back from an

526
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 4: achilles injury, he's just staying in the Super Bowl, and they, hey,

527
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: we gotta get this guy back on the field. We're

528
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 4: gonna get him reps. He's a starter, he's a Pro Bowl,

529
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 4: All Pro type of guy. And then you take him

530
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 4: out and then you're like, hey, third quarter, guys are injured,

531
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: we need you in. There is a team sport, and

532
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: now you had to because he decides that to play

533
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 4: you gotta you had a linebacker there hobbling around, right,

534
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: and that's just crazy.

535
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: And it's just not understood. And who knows if there

536
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: was drama going on before the game started with their

537
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: situation inside the linebacker room, but again and not being

538
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: understood before he even straps up like he's dressed to

539
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: go play. It's like, yo, if you're you're the team

540
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: needs you. Yeah, And what sucks is Devandre. He's a

541
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: good linebacker, like he's a good sturdy linebacker. And again

542
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 1: the ego is the enemy man whatever he's feeling in

543
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: his situation, because look, it's like even if they're going

544
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: with green Law and you've had a heavy yer or

545
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: you've had a good resume like playing like everybody knows

546
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: you can play good, you can play well. You know

547
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: that you can play well. And so if they're going

548
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: with green Law, you're in a situation where, okay, yeah,

549
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: you might be the backup right now, but you never

550
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: know when your opportunity comes. Like again Greenlaw, green Law.

551
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: He's just come back from an achilles, he needed to

552
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: be tapped out and somebody in Devondre to come in

553
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: to substitute for him, and he just decides not to play.

554
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: It's like, no matter what, you have the opportunity there

555
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: to Again, you're proving everybody that they're right for thinking that.

556
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: You know, this could be toxic. I'm putting you as

557
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: a backup, you know what I mean, versus coming in

558
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: and playing and knowing that you are still a good

559
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: quality linebacker. They're just the future is with green Law

560
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's on a one year

561
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: deal to year deal, and again, Devandre, he could be

562
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: thinking I'm paid. He's made like forty million dollars. He

563
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: doesn't need it, and he's good with his decision. But

564
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: ultimately it's like, Bro, you're resumeing your reputation on being

565
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: a good linebacker. It's now tarnished because you walk out

566
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: on your team. And I get, it's a business. There's

567
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: all these angles going on, everybody thinking of their own

568
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: individual story and their own individual business going on. But

569
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: you are in a team game.

570
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: That team there's a main story, and there's a bunch

571
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 4: of micro stories and those micro stories or the individual

572
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: story that you're playing out yourself. When he is out

573
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: of the league ten years from now and he's sitting

574
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 4: at his house, I'm sure he's made all the money

575
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 4: in the world. He's going to sit back and think

576
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 4: about this moment, and if he thought about it without

577
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: any bias towards himself, he's going to know that he

578
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: made a mistake. Because it's just like you're saying, if

579
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 4: it's a team sport and they pull you out, you

580
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: have every right for your feelings to be hurt. You

581
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: have every right to be like, bro, I've been playing well,

582
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: I should be able to still play. But if you

583
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: are asked to go back in the game after somebody's

584
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: sustained injury and you say no, you're now being a

585
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: bad teammates the guy who's hurt because now he's got

586
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 4: a hobble around out there, you're hurting his money because

587
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 4: he's putting bad film out there, and you're taking away

588
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: opportunities from yourself. Like you just said, like when he

589
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: goes obviously, if he's that upset where he's not going

590
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 4: to play, Let's say he goes in place you know

591
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 4: there's an issue. The rest of the year. Season's almost over.

592
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: When he's done, he can go to a new team,

593
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: and there's no forward facing media coverage of a guy

594
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: who decided not to play a football game where other

595
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: thirty one other teams are gonna look at you and say, well,

596
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: let's use not a team guy when the shit gets hard,

597
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: when the shit gets tough, we're not gonna put him

598
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: in or he's not gonna be a guy we can

599
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: depend on. And that's that's the bummers, because he made

600
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: a quick decision on something that is going to hurt

601
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 4: the rest of his NFL career, doesn't matter how long

602
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 4: it is, and eventually will become a regret that he

603
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: has because it's not dude, the NFL, like we talk

604
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: about it, how zoomed in players can be. Now zoomed

605
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: in You and I were, and then you eventually get

606
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: out and you're realize how all the things that seem

607
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 4: so big really aren't that big. This is one of

608
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: those moments where it seems to get such a big

609
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 4: deal and you feel disrespected as a man. You just

610
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: go out there and play. It's going to fix itself.

611
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: You play good ball, it fixes itself. That's the frustrating part.

612
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: I feel bad for him.

613
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: It's like ultimately your feeding the bad wolf. Yeah, the

614
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: story the good the bad wolf on your shoulders, and

615
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: he made a selfish decision, and again it's like we

616
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: can talk about football, but everybody, it's like everybody zoomed

617
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: in on their own situation. No matter what, you can't

618
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: control certain things like outside of yourself, like you can't

619
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: help that the coaches want to go with green Law

620
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: over you. What you can control. What you can help

621
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: is your attitude and effort every day coming in to

622
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: know like, all right, I'm gonna be the backup here.

623
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best fucking backup in the league

624
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: until my time comes again. Because no matter what, you've

625
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: put together a great resume and you're tarnishing it because

626
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: you're so caught up in your own story that you're

627
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: pissed off because people outside of your controller making the

628
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: decision that we're gonna go with green Law. Where it's like, again,

629
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: if you just put your put your head down and

630
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: be like you have to accept the reality of your

631
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: current situation and fucking be ready to go because your

632
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: number is gonna get called again in this league. Like

633
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: one thing we do know, the NFL one injury rate

634
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: green Law needed to tap, your opportunity would have still

635
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: been there to go back in and you just you

636
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: never know. I hate to see it. I hate the

637
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: bad teammate stuff, I hate the ego, I hate the

638
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: selfish bullshit like I'm just not about it. I'm just

639
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: not about it.

640
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 9: To me, it's even simpler of it's your job, like

641
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 9: you you're paid to do this and if you're healthy,

642
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 9: you have to do it. In the real person world,

643
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 9: it's like you can't show up and they actually think

644
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 9: them out and then get it's like taking the if

645
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 9: he doesn't love football like some of the guys do,

646
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 9: taking the chaining Crowder outlook on it like, yeah, it's

647
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 9: like working at Walgreens. I show up, I do my job,

648
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 9: I leave, and then that's it. And it's like I

649
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 9: feel like that has gotten lost in a lot of

650
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 9: pro sports leaders.

651
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Speaker 4: Just looking from that angle too, it's like you're you're

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Speaker 1: The crown is yours? What else? Because I'm getting worked

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, what do you do in that situation?

675
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Speaker 1: I'm playing? Like, if I think back on any of

676
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,600
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677
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Speaker 1: I was pissed when we ended up getting and I've

678
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Speaker 1: told this story before, where we get Zach Brown, All

679
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl linebacker. He becomes a starter. Whether I think

680
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Speaker 1: it's political, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day,

681
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Speaker 1: he was the starter. So the entire year, I'm a backup.

682
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: We had a third string guy, Martrell Spate, who's supposed

683
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Speaker 1: to be the third string, and when Mason Foster or

684
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Speaker 1: Zach Brown would be injured, we would go in the supplement.

685
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: And when Mason Foster went on IR for the rest

686
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Speaker 1: of the year is like the middle of the year,

687
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Speaker 1: back third of the year. I'm thinking to myself, I'm

688
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Speaker 1: going to be the Mike backer with the green dot

689
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Speaker 1: and everything else. Well, I come to learn on the

690
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Speaker 1: week of the game that we're playing against the Cowboys

691
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Speaker 1: that I'm splitting time with Spate, who's supposed to be

692
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Speaker 1: my backup, right like in my own story, in my

693
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Speaker 1: own movie. And I'm pissed off because they're only giving

694
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Speaker 1: me base reps, which you know, twelve person or twenty

695
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Speaker 1: one personnel teams don't do it a whole lot in

696
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Speaker 1: this game unless you're playing the lines like Dallas did

697
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: it that week. There's going to be about fifteen snaps

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Speaker 1: that I got to play bass. The majority of the

699
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Speaker 1: snaps are in your Nickel package Nickel dime, and Spate

700
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Speaker 1: was going to be the guy. Spate was going to

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Speaker 1: be the guy with either the green dot or Zach

702
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Speaker 1: Brown was. I forget what it was.

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Speaker 4: I remember definitely not the guy who in.

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Speaker 1: It, but I remember being so pissed off, like going

705
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Speaker 1: to the linebacker. I go to talk to Coach Ko

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Speaker 1: about it, and I'm like fuming. I'm mad that I'm

707
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Speaker 1: finding out in a special teams meeting that like, hey, Will,

708
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be all on all four. I think they're

709
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: gonna be wrong with Spate. And I'm thinking to myself, like,

710
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Speaker 1: why am I finding out right now in a special

711
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Speaker 1: teams meeting? Then I'm not going to be the guy

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Speaker 1: get the reps. And again I was tight and I

713
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: was bitter about it. And when I went home that

714
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Speaker 1: day because I went out to practice, Coach Grud's trying

715
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: to talk to me about it, and everybody's trying to

716
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: talk to him about because I'm being a bitch in

717
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Speaker 1: this situation, I'm being very salty about it. And when

718
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: I go home, I'm like thinking to myself, like, hey,

719
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Speaker 1: if I don't prepare and go all in on these

720
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Speaker 1: base reps, however many reps I do get and I

721
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Speaker 1: happen to play badly, all I'm going to be telling

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Speaker 1: the staff and everybody else is that I'm proving them

723
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Speaker 1: right for going with Spate, Like Spate's going to be

724
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Speaker 1: the guy, and then if I play poorly in my

725
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: base reps, like he'll take over the entire spot. But

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Speaker 1: if I don't go out and do everything I can

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Speaker 1: to control my situation, which I was going to be

728
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Speaker 1: the starting backer in the base package, and if I

729
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Speaker 1: play well, then hopefully I can just build on it

730
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Speaker 1: from there. Played well in that Dallas game, and the

731
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Speaker 1: next week we're playing the Vikings, get a phone call, Hey,

732
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: you got the keys, you're rolling with the green dot,

733
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Speaker 1: You're taking over for all of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that's an experience I think about when I think

736
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Speaker 1: about this Devondre Campbell is because again, it's like you

737
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Speaker 1: can piss him on all you want, but the moment

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Speaker 1: you go out there, you quit on your team or

739
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Speaker 1: you play poorly, you're just proving everybody else right that

740
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Speaker 1: they made the right that they made the right call

741
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Speaker 1: to go with a guy who's itching the comeback, ready

742
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Speaker 1: to come back, who's rady to sacrifice for the team

743
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Speaker 1: and to make a run for the playoffs. When you're

744
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Speaker 1: kind of just fucking quitting on everybody, right.

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Speaker 4: Shows how much you cared about the team. I had

746
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Speaker 4: a situation it was like twenty nineteen, no, twenty eighteen.

747
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Speaker 4: I think we're playing the Saints, and it was like

748
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Speaker 4: the second to last game of the year. Saints are

749
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Speaker 4: an NFC team, and then last game of the year

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Speaker 4: I think was the Texans, and we were in this

751
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Speaker 4: situation where, for whatever reason, that game didn't matter from

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Speaker 4: like a record standpoint, it wasn't going to affect our

753
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Speaker 4: seating going into the playoffs, but the next game did,

754
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Speaker 4: so I think Tannehill got like half the snaps, Derek

755
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: got like didn't play any of the snaps, and there's

756
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Speaker 4: a bunch of players that are getting rested for the

757
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Speaker 4: next week. And I found myself sitting there like I

758
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: played every single snap of that game, or I wasn't

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Speaker 4: even told that I was getting a break and I

760
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Speaker 4: was finding out before where it felt like a preseason

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Speaker 4: game where like guys are like, hey, Derek, you're sitting

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Speaker 4: this guy's doing this and he is doing that, And

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Speaker 4: I felt like upset about it because I was like why, why,

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Speaker 4: why didn't I get I decided this contract you get

765
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Speaker 4: into a mode of just like thinking selfishly about yourself,

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Speaker 4: and then you see everybody else around you kind of

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Speaker 4: getting this like, you know, this stressful time of year

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Speaker 4: when you want to have a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: break too, if you're if you're afforded the opportunity, which

770
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: we were at that point, you want to have the break.

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Speaker 4: And then you see a couple other guys. But at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, I went out and played

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Speaker 4: every snap, like you gotta go and do those things.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it took a series or two because I

775
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: found out like ninety minutes before the game. So I

776
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Speaker 4: have a little come to Jesus talking with myself in

777
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Speaker 4: the bathroom. Listen, no one's coming to save you. You

778
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: gotta situation, embrace the situation. And it's because the thing

779
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Speaker 4: it's easy to say on a microphone after everything's over

780
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Speaker 4: and be able to talk and be like this is

781
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: how everybody should operate and act. But we just show

782
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 4: two examples of like as a player, you easily find

783
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 4: yourself falling into feeding the bad wolf. We were like, well,

784
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Speaker 4: people are getting X, Y and Z, why aren't I

785
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Speaker 4: getting that? You're like the comparison is a thief of

786
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Speaker 4: joy and so now it goes back to what JP

787
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Speaker 4: was just saying and shanding. Crowder said, you're just it's

788
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: your job, like if they're you're told to do something,

789
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 4: you just go and do it. You're getting paid a

790
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 4: crazy amount of money to go play a sport. So

791
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Speaker 4: I think the soapboxes. We were good on the soapbox. Yeah, yeah,

792
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: but it's just wild man.

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Speaker 1: All right? Should we hit who's over there with them?

794
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Speaker 1: Do we have somebody over there with them so you

795
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: can finish out this intro? J Rod and Coop?

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's do Yeah, JP, want't you go over there?

797
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Speaker 4: Since the ties, Let's hit these ads real quick.

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Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I just.

799
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Speaker 4: Want to text me or what do you want to do?

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Speaker 1: You want to just you do a little shoutout, no

801
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Speaker 1: free shout out. I can, I canploy a little bit

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Speaker 1: of our I I do have a shout out, no

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Speaker 1: free shot out.

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 4: I do as well.

805
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: And it's the syringe for medicine for little kids. Rue

806
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: was sick over the weekend and it was a battle

807
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: getting medicine down. She never wanted to do it and

808
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: ultimately got to the point to where I'm pissed off

809
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, I'm gonna hold you down if

810
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Speaker 1: you don't take this medicine. I'm talking, I'm trying to

811
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Speaker 1: give her. We're trying to give her cookies. We're trying

812
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Speaker 1: to talk about cookies and I we're trying to talk

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Speaker 1: about all these things to get her like, hey, just

814
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Speaker 1: do this. We'll throw a little bear, We'll throw on

815
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Speaker 1: all your favorite things. We need you to take medicine

816
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: because sweetheart, you have a fever and we have to

817
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Speaker 1: get this. Medicine is going down one way or another.

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Speaker 1: You can do it willingly, Yeah.

819
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Speaker 4: Do the easy way, to do the hard ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And ultimately I'm I'm having hold her

821
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Speaker 1: arms and screaming. Yeah. And so I wrote that tweet.

822
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like waterboarding my daughter and you

823
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Speaker 1: feel bad. So she's like and then you kind of

824
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: you kind of look over and you start kind of

825
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Speaker 1: like you start chuckling in a little bit because he

826
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: just realizes.

827
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Speaker 4: And it tastes good.

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Speaker 1: That's a crazy thing. I'm like this, I'm like, heydad

829
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Speaker 1: is gonna tast something too, And I'm like, oh, these

830
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: tastes like sweet, yeah, this this tastes fine, like rude,

831
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Speaker 1: Just take the medicine.

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Speaker 4: It's like getting a dog medicine. Dude. You shay like

833
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: ground by the mouth real quick, shove in the back

834
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: of their throat and like close their mouth and blow

835
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Speaker 4: on their nose.

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Speaker 1: And this all my pushing too, urs. She's kind of

837
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: choking a little bit, like listen, all right, here, takes

838
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: some water, all right? Round two? Right, yeah, yeah, just

839
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Speaker 1: a little bit like a little.

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Speaker 4: Four six hours. We got to reboot this thing and

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Speaker 4: get it done.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: How about kids when they're flailing and it's kind of

844
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: like if you really thought about it, you're thinking yourself,

845
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: you're doing everything you can to get out of this,

846
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: and it's not even hard for me.

847
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, little kids are man, I know.

848
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: And also, dude, my children when they throw temper tantrums,

849
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 4: they always have a way of finding my testicles. They

850
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: always figure out how to fucking flail those feet, dude,

851
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: and they're just fucking hitting those things every time. My

852
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: four year olds just tripping about something the other day

853
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: and I like picked up like sweetie, relaxed, like no

854
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: legs start going crazy. She was like put a little

855
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: like body bag to things for a minute. I'm like,

856
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: how the fuck, how do you hit that.

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: It is funny how upset they getting it internally like

858
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: pisses you off and away. You're like, all right, we're

859
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: about to find out. You're about to really find out

860
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: about your dad and his ship. And I'm thinking I

861
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: am a psycho for thinking this way, dude. Yeah, two

862
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: years old. I'm like, all right, all right, you're testing me.

863
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: You want to go? You want to shout at the

864
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: title right now?

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Speaker 4: A little early to make that call, but I guess

866
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Speaker 4: I'll I'll let you have one. Yeah, yeah, dude, the

867
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 4: message shout out the syringes. So what is a good thing?

868
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the ones where you can like, uh, you

869
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: can pull it up and just having a syringe so

870
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: that way you're not like trying to get them to

871
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: take it from a spoon or have him drink it.

872
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: You just get to be fauzzle, like bite their teeth

873
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: and not try to not let you execute it whatsoever.

874
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm like holding her, holding her jaw and cheek, and

875
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, here we go, and you feel terrible.

876
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: It hurts you way worse than it hurts them. Yeah.

877
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: After after all done, they kind of like relax, like

878
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: eating some cheerios, watching a show or something like that,

879
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: and you walk up, You're like, hey, you want to

880
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: talk about what happened out there, but they've completely moved on,

881
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: like and then I'm like.

882
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: You did it, you did it. Yeah, yeah, you did it.

883
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: Here's some water that is awesome. My shadow in her

884
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: free shout out goes to Christmas Magic. And my wife

885
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: started a tradition. It is such a pain in the

886
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: ass that she started this tradition, but she does these

887
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: things the first December all the way to Christmas. She

888
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: has this thing called Christmas Magic, and she bought this

889
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: little like house type of thing and it has these

890
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: little drawers that has twenty five little drawers.

891
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah.

892
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: You kind of like that. And she tailor handwrites riddles

893
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: and ties a bow on them and when she puts

894
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 4: it in there, the light turns on of the little house,

895
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: so the kids know that the Christmas Magic is here.

896
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: And it can be a whole bunch of different things,

897
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: like it was making ornaments one day, it was finding

898
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: a bunch of toys you don't use anymore, We're gonna

899
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 4: go donate it to kids that can't have toys. And uh,

900
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: the one yesterday was just getting getting the pj's whole

901
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: fame in the car, we all got te's and just

902
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: go look at Christmas lights. Call a buddy who does lights.

903
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, what's the best place in town? We

904
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: go to this dated community. We tell them we're so

905
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: and so we dive into there we go and just

906
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: it's so funny how kids attention spans work. Because they're

907
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: having such a great time in the moment where the

908
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: lights are being seen, but traveling the ten minutes to

909
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: go see the lights. It's on bored. I want this song?

910
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: Can we have a Christmas story? Not a Christmas song?

911
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: And fighting about what Christmas song it is? And then

912
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: all of a sudden it's like ten fifteen seconds of

913
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: pure joy and bliss. Yeah, well, the those lights, what

914
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: about those? I'm thinking notes for myself. I'm thinking myself,

915
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 4: I gotta up my game. I'm seeing something. These houses

916
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: out here. I'm thinking, I got to figure out how

917
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: have a Grizzwold type of Christmas? The Grizzwolds.

918
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the movie?

919
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: I'm asking you?

920
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: The Christmas vacation?

921
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: That is correct?

922
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: Sir?

923
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: Nice get pulled, good, pull, I get worried about you.

924
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: And it comes to the movie. I know I worried

925
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: about myself.

926
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, dude, Christmas magic. She literally handwrites these

927
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: riddles and just total all time. Mom move. These kids

928
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: are going to grow up and they love it. And

929
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 4: my daughter, my seven year old win.

930
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 6: She is like.

931
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: Full full Santa mode right now. She's fully in to

932
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 4: the belief, all of it so much so to why

933
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: I'm getting to the point I'm like, I felt so guilty.

934
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of just lying her. You need me to

935
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: make a call.

936
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: No, you will never get that call again.

937
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Hey, don't win the bat or you will not get

938
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: Christmas presents.

939
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: Dude.

940
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: That was when are you gonna be a good little girl? Now?

941
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: No more pe in the bed? Or Santa will not come?

942
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: Is he really not gonna come?

943
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: No?

944
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: No, no, he's he's Sata was telling a joke. I

945
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 4: was thinking of myself, a.

946
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Bed, go to bed? Will? What the fuck was that?

947
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Don't you want to stop missing the bed?

948
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 9: Dude?

949
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: That was so funny? How old is ru?

950
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: Then?

951
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 4: That was was that last year? Two years ago?

952
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: That was like two years ago before?

953
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, right before?

954
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: We don't yeah we did, yeah, we didn't have one yet.

955
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: God, I would love to hear Will do that call now,

956
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: because you know, Will would be like, hi, sweetie, how

957
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: are you like just understand You're like, hey, I'm not

958
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: in the middle hole for it. No, it was just

959
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: like fucking playing yay, don't do that ship that You're

960
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: not gonna get anything.

961
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: I've been pee in the bed, dude.

962
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: Did you how about the video I sent you a win.

963
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a funny video, dude.

964
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 4: I gotta show you guys this video. So when done

965
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: this new thing where she like spies on me and

966
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: my wife? And I said something because I said something

967
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 4: the other day man, while I was walking and I

968
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: was like, fucking something, and she's like, Dad, why are

969
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 4: you always saying fucking and like perfect pronunciation exactly the

970
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: way I say it, And dude, my wife and I

971
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: I just trying not to laugh at this thing. I

972
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: was like, oh, no, we're talking about ducks. Mom was like, yeah,

973
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: Daddy really loves ducks. And she's like she's like, uh,

974
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: my tailoring's like use an example of how Daddy uses that.

975
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: She goes it's like, let's say there's a girl over there,

976
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 4: and it will be like that fucking girl or she

977
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: points to here, like one time there was like this

978
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 4: fucking tattoo.

979
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: And then you hear you hear tailing going into let's

980
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: get more information. She's like, well, how how long you've

981
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: been hearing that? She's like like three years from dad.

982
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: Hey. The wild thing too, is is when she said

983
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: to Dad, I just pointed out tailing, hoping my point

984
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: might have enough energy to take her over to tailor

985
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: to like take over that. But yeah, dude, she didn't

986
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: say it though. Like we had the little moment.

987
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 5: She said to y'all, I've been hearing this word. I've

988
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 5: been hearing this word for three years now.

989
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I was how long you've been hearing that?

990
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Like three years?

991
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 4: Bro? And I just literally I was like video. I

992
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: was like videotaping it and I had to send it

993
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: to Will and He's just sending like a bunch of hogs.

994
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of myself. Am I bad?

995
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: Dad? Not of those moments you're like, damn kids, hear everything, bro,

996
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: everything everything.

997
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 5: That did unlock a memory of I remember, like spying

998
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: on my parents from other rooms. Yeah, I truly remember that,

999
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 5: like sitting like you go to.

1000
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Bed, they're up in the living room talking. You want

1001
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: to know all the conversations, all the conversations.

1002
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 5: You can't even hear it sometimes, but you're just like

1003
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 5: sitting there and you're watching them interact and then they're like.

1004
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: A hear him talking about you, Oh yeah in school

1005
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: or something.

1006
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, bro, breaking news.

1007
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 7: David Montgomery out and definitely mcl injury. Probably done for

1008
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 7: the whole school. Lions might be folding.

1009
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Fuck man, dude.

1010
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: If there's a man that can do it's dead cure

1011
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: a culture that can do it, it's damn.

1012
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: I hate that, bro, because they've been having a fucking

1013
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: year man, and they've just been They've been getting hit

1014
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: with the injuries lately. That sucks, man.

1015
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,480
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1016
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Speaker 1: Should we dive into John Gruden?

1049
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: Let's dive into John Gruden?

1050
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Dude, dude, he was How awesome is he?

1051
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 4: The story? The twisted question? You would have thought he

1052
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 4: knew the twisted question before we even get into him

1053
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: him just his voice to hearing on Monday Night football

1054
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 4: for nine years and having him call a couple of

1055
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: your games and like being excited that he's just a legend.

1056
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: And seeing that look in his eye. We just know

1057
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: he's passionate about football. He just loves it.

1058
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 9: Man.

1059
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: It's between a stroke and like a one sixty bpm

1060
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, it's beautiful. He's

1061
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: always teetering like is it too much coffee? Is a

1062
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: little something extra? What is it? But it's really just

1063
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, Well let me tell you something.

1064
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1065
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: And the way he talks to good coach, what.

1066
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Do you say talking about throwing the ball out of

1067
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: the end zone on a hell Mary, Yeah, guys are

1068
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: worried about you don't guys, what do you think it is?

1069
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, coach, that's what.

1070
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: Like the head coach calls on you in a meeting

1071
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: and you just for whatever, Yeah, your buttthole or no clue,

1072
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: no clue. You guys are gonna love this episode.

1073
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 4: Look at that answer episode.

1074
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: Make sure you are commenting and again subscribe to the Boys.

1075
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Speaker 1: Subscribe to the Boys. Here is coach John Gruden.

1076
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode US with was

1077
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: very special guest with us. Today, we have a legend

1078
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 4: of Clay High School, a legend of Dayton Dayton College quarterback.

1079
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: We have a super Bowl winning coach, mister John Jrudin. Hey, brother,

1080
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: we are excited to have you on.

1081
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Speaker 1: Man.

1082
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: Obviously we just had you in the locker room. That

1083
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 4: show has already come out. But your passion, your love

1084
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: for football, and you never know some of these personalities

1085
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: you see. I remember watching you with like the draft experience,

1086
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: and watching you get up with players and having quarterbacks

1087
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: talk about it, and you got that look in your

1088
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: eyes like you do right now having them draw things up.

1089
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: But you truly, you truly love, eat, and breathe football.

1090
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: Where did that passion start?

1091
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1092
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: I do.

1093
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: That's why I love being here with you guys. My

1094
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 6: dad was a coach. My dad coached at Indiana, he

1095
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: coached at Notre Dane, he coached with the Buccaneers. So

1096
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 6: I kind of grew up going to the locker rooms

1097
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 6: idolizing players, wanting to be a coach. I played at Dayton,

1098
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 6: I wasn't very good. My high school is no longer around.

1099
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 6: They closed the door, so I don't have any I

1100
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: don't have any tapes to show you or approve what

1101
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: kind of player I was. But you know, when you

1102
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 6: grow up knowing what you want to do at a

1103
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 6: young age and then you have an opportunity to get

1104
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 6: your foot in the door. It's just just been that

1105
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 6: way from the beginning.

1106
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: How much of a learning curve was it? Like getting

1107
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: around your old man and when you were getting integrated

1108
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: into coaching, just understanding the work that goes into coaching football,

1109
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: the sacrifice that goes into coaching football. Because it's like

1110
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: you said, there as players and I've always had aspirations

1111
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: of coaching, but coordinators, like coaches mine, would always say, hey,

1112
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: if you find something else to do, you might want

1113
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: to look into that, because all the work you put

1114
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: in to be a player It's like, you know, it's

1115
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: tenfold when you're coaching, because you're there from start to finish,

1116
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: all around the clock.

1117
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I was lucky because my dad knew people,

1118
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 6: and I was able to get started, probably ahead of

1119
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 6: some other guys would And I got started at Tennessee

1120
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 6: the Volunteers. They were in a sugar bowl. We beat

1121
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 6: Venni Testaverdi. So I got around Walt Harris, a great

1122
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 6: offensive coach. And I was lucky, man, because when you're

1123
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 6: around people that know the game in side and out,

1124
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 6: that can set the tone and put you on a

1125
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 6: routine and you try to accumulate knowledge every day and

1126
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 6: challenge you. That's just the environment I've always been in

1127
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 6: and one I've tried to create. So uh, anyways, it

1128
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 6: goes by fast. Look look at me now, I'm busting

1129
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 6: with the boys.

1130
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: Man, hit the big time. All your accomplishments has got

1131
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: to be top five when you UH coach for your

1132
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: graduate assistant right for the Tennessee Volunteers. Do you hold

1133
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: any love for the Volunteers?

1134
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: Now?

1135
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 4: Are you a fan of the balls? All the places

1136
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: you coached at, do you like still hold it near?

1137
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

1138
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 6: God, I love Tennessee. I met my wife there. My

1139
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 6: wife cheered at Tennessee.

1140
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I was a jeerleader.

1141
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 6: My wife was dating Johnny Major's son, Johnny Major's legendary

1142
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: coach at Tennessee. She's dating coach major son, and they

1143
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 6: broke up and I went in for the kill man.

1144
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 6: But uh, I absolutely loved Knoxville, Tennessee. Love the volunteers.

1145
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 6: We have property up in the Smoky Mountains Severeville, near Dollywood,

1146
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 6: and we go back a lot. We just love it.

1147
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 6: Who were in the playoffs too?

1148
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: Who are your college teams in Tennessee and Indiana? Are

1149
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: those of the well?

1150
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 6: My dad coach at Indiana Notre Dame. I coached at Tennessee,

1151
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 6: University of Pacific. Who dropped football now Southeast Missouri State,

1152
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 6: University of Pittsburgh.

1153
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: You were at Simo Yeah one year?

1154
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 6: No shit, Cape Girardo Man, Yeah, bro.

1155
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 4: I get a little nervous. I saw when I saw

1156
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 4: Dayton on the Wikipedia playing college football there, I was

1157
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 4: sticking them. I wonder if he has any love for

1158
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: Ohio State. But it seems like you just stay in

1159
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: the Indiana category.

1160
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: Home.

1161
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much. I mean I loved my experience growing

1162
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 6: up in Ohio. My dad coached at Dayton, made a

1163
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 6: lot of connections there. What a staff he was on

1164
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 6: at Dayton. John McVay, who became the forty nine ers

1165
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 6: GM was the head coach. But most of my ties

1166
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 6: or places i've coached, those are the things I can

1167
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 6: remember the most.

1168
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your What do you think about this

1169
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: barstool barstool media world?

1170
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, it's totally different. You know, I never had

1171
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 6: a Twitter page, I never had anything. I don't know

1172
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 6: anything about social media. I used to give everybody a

1173
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 6: hard time about doing it. Now I'm taking selfies, you know,

1174
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 6: with George Brett in the airport. I mean, it's it's

1175
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 6: really awkward and different.

1176
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 4: It's a wild game. Even even when we finish the

1177
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 4: locker room, you're like, hey, put your helmet on, let

1178
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 4: me yell at you.

1179
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, get cameras.

1180
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: It seems like you're diving in the game quickly.

1181
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 6: I'm trying. And I got some great guys, as you know,

1182
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 6: the guys that run the place, Dave Portnoy. These guys

1183
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 6: are interesting, man, They're really creative. To put it mildly,

1184
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 6: I got to go on the golfing thing with Frankie

1185
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 6: and Trent. We had some people come down of my

1186
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 6: office last weekend and I'm I'm I'm anxious to see

1187
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 6: what is going to unfold, But I just want to

1188
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 6: do good. I want to be part of the team

1189
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 6: and try to find my role.

1190
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: You if you're not producing, so I said, I said.

1191
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 6: Give me, get me out of here. I got my

1192
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 6: I got a couple of things I'm getting better at.

1193
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 6: And this is all part of the seasoning process. Hanging

1194
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 6: around with you two guys. You know, I'll steal some

1195
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 6: ideas from you. This is a hell of a setup, man.

1196
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 6: It's it's about, you know, on the truth, having some fun,

1197
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 6: making some people laugh and making them think outside the

1198
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 6: box a little bit.

1199
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like getting to have this, like you know,

1200
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about it, either on the locker room

1201
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: or outside of it. What you miss the most is

1202
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: the camaraderie. You missed the locker room. Yeah, Unfortunately, we

1203
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: get to have people on like yourself, players that are

1204
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: currently playing ex players to where you still kind of

1205
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: get that feeling that ball busting and having fun having

1206
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: some laughs because you do. You just you missed the

1207
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: locker room so much.

1208
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 6: When it's over, Oh, it's it's what you what you

1209
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 6: can't duplicate, but you guys are doing a pretty good

1210
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 6: job of it, you know, just giving guys shit. That's

1211
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 6: what I tried to do every day. I tried to

1212
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 6: stir the pot.

1213
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 10: Man.

1214
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 6: I'd come in there one day and try to make

1215
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 6: you guys laugh, and I'd go to any extreme measure

1216
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 6: I had to go to make you laugh too, because

1217
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 6: sometimes you guys are grouchy bastards every day, no doubt,

1218
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 6: you know they need Yeah, you gotta make them laugh.

1219
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 6: And then the next day I might try to fire

1220
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 6: you up, Hey, lu let's you know, you know, and

1221
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 6: then the next day you might really try to piss

1222
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 6: them off, like I might really try to piss Will compident.

1223
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: So you got seven shapes of smoke. When you're coming

1224
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 4: in to.

1225
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 6: Get well, you just don't want to just install twenty

1226
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 6: two Hank and here's you know, here's eighteen Bob. After

1227
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 6: a while, you know, you get a little bit bored.

1228
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 6: You got to try to make it fun and you

1229
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 6: try to stimulate your guys, and I think that's when

1230
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 6: they play their best.

1231
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: Who's the best pot starring coach you've been around?

1232
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 6: Ray Rhodes. Ray Rhodes was the head coach of the

1233
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 6: Eagles when I was the offensive coordinator. He was a

1234
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 6: secondary coach of the forty nine ers when it all

1235
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 6: started for me. He had Ronnie Lott. He had a

1236
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 6: great group back there. He was a combination of Richard Pryor.

1237
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 6: He was a comedian and he was a great technician,

1238
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 6: a great technical football guy. But he would create analogies.

1239
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 6: He would speak in analogies that were awesome, and he

1240
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 6: used those analogies in his teaching methods. Ray Rhodes was phenomenal.

1241
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 6: One of the great coaches I've ever been around.

1242
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: What about motivator?

1243
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, motivation? Motivation. Uh, I'd be a hard one. I'd

1244
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: have to think about that for a minute. But I've

1245
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 6: been around some good ones. About you, who's the best

1246
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 6: motivator you've been around?

1247
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, Bo Polini was a hell of a motivator,

1248
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: I bet dude. Honestly, Like I've told Taylor this, I

1249
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: don't know if I've said it on the bus, but

1250
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: you are a hell of a motivator. I mean when

1251
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: you're what was that When I came out there, it

1252
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: was like my seventh year and you're a veteran, You're

1253
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: coming out midyear, and usually like when you're a VET

1254
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: and you've you've had some years in the league, you've

1255
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: heard everybody speak, you've heard all the speeches and everything else.

1256
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: But I remember you just had us after a practice

1257
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: one day and it was getting my piss hot, and

1258
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: it was like one of those things. You're like, Yo,

1259
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: this is the fucking you hear all this stuff about

1260
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: John Gruden and everything else. Now I get to play

1261
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: for him, and you walk away from just that post

1262
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: meeting motivational Talkie gave, and it is It's one of

1263
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: those things because then coaches try to do it and

1264
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: it's like you understand what they're trying to do, but

1265
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not getting you fired up or

1266
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: it's not making you think. You're like, oh, I wonder

1267
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: what I wonder what Taylor thought about this speech? You

1268
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of go and laugh about it. But you were

1269
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: somebody that always felt like you had the right words,

1270
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: the right tone, the right time, And so I would say,

1271
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: I would say yourself, coach Vrabel, he can get going. Uh.

1272
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: Your brother was more of a matter of fact, yeah,

1273
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 4: but expressing to you like the keys to the game.

1274
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: But in a way they were like fuck af we just.

1275
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: Do these three four things we're going to And the

1276
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: night before a game, when he'd start running a highlight table,

1277
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: like you tell us they're talking about us this way,

1278
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: they're talking about us that way. Tell me we can't

1279
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: block on the edge, Tell me we can't make plays

1280
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: in space, tell me we're not You know all those

1281
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: different things they get that would get you fired up.

1282
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Your brother, he was more of a he was more

1283
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: of a comedian.

1284
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1285
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: He would take some like rap lyrics or song lyrics

1286
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: and bring it out and we'd like have fun. Jay's awesome.

1287
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 6: You know a lot of times, let's the assistant coaches.

1288
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: I remember when I was in Tampa. We all know

1289
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin now is the head coach. He's a great motivator.

1290
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 6: You should hear him in the room with his secondary guys.

1291
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 6: When I was coaching for the Bucks. He was a

1292
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 6: great motive. But Rond Barber, John Lynch, he had those

1293
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 6: guys frothing at the mouth. Rod Marinelli, our d line coach, Yeah,

1294
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 6: was phenomenal. Some of my really you know, bad words

1295
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: I learned I learned from Marinelli. Al Davis was a

1296
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 6: great motivator and he used any method to get you

1297
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 6: fired up.

1298
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: Massacia Casatia is good.

1299
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Speaker 6: I think you try to hire guys that can handle

1300
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 6: their players. I hate assistant coaches that come into your Hey,

1301
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 6: we Taylor Duwan was three minutes late. Hey, Will Compton

1302
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 6: wasn't paying attention in the meeting room. We get them

1303
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 6: to pay attention. You know, that's your job, you know

1304
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 6: what I mean. I like coaches that can run the

1305
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 6: show and really get these guys charged up in their

1306
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 6: in their own individual worlds.

1307
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, when it came to coaching and you're talking about

1308
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: like one day you would try to make guys laugh,

1309
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 4: then motivate, then piss them off. What like, how did

1310
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 4: you learn that I need to go about these different

1311
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: ways to motivate different players? Like, was that something you

1312
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: knew right away as a coach by watching your dad

1313
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: or is that something you gained over time?

1314
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 6: Well, pretty much you're not when you're the head coach.

1315
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 6: You're not just motivating the left tackle going into a

1316
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 6: team meeting to motivate the quarterback or the wide receiver.

1317
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 6: You're trying to get everybody on a common thread. Everybody's

1318
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 6: got to see this together. And you know, I just

1319
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 6: think the more camaraderie you can generate the better chance

1320
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 6: you have. It's a long season, and I think it's

1321
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 6: it's important to laugh at each other, you know, get

1322
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 6: guys up there, have them talk for a minute or

1323
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 6: two balls, bust each other's balls, including your own. And

1324
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 6: that worked for me for a while, but I think

1325
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 6: I pissed some people off, and unfortunately that's the way

1326
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 6: it goes.

1327
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: When now talk about talk about you pivoting throughout your

1328
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: career because the game is a lot different now you're

1329
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: busting our balls. You guys are much more sensitive these days.

1330
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: We had we had Mike Alstott on the bus and

1331
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: he's talking about how soft the league is now, Like,

1332
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: how have you had to kind of adapt your philosophies

1333
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: over time?

1334
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I did Monday night football for nine

1335
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 6: years and during those nine years I got away from

1336
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 6: the players associate. How practices have changed. You know, you

1337
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 6: can't hit the quarterback below the leg. A lot of

1338
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 6: different rules have come in. Players safety big issue, but

1339
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 6: the big thing is coming back and coaching. You have

1340
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 6: to adapt to the rules, but you still have to

1341
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 6: push the envelope. You got to create repetitions. Repetitions the

1342
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 6: mother are learning, whether it be walkedthroughs, whatever it is.

1343
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 6: We have to develop players, and you guys will admit

1344
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 6: these college kids coming out, they are not as far

1345
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 6: along as people think they are. A lot of these

1346
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 6: guys are transferring year to year. They're only one year starters.

1347
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 6: They're really raw and you need time to spend with them.

1348
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 6: But you got to push the envelope. You got to

1349
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 6: adapt to the circumstances that are laid out for you ahead.

1350
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: Well know, we were talking about the transfer and the

1351
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 4: NI on the last episode of Busting with the Boys,

1352
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: how it's it's got to be so difficult as a

1353
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: college coach to go up to a player and be like,

1354
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 4: these are the things you need to work on, and

1355
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 4: be a little bit harder on them, a little more

1356
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: tough love on them, because it was like, I'm just

1357
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: going to go some get paid the same amount. Do

1358
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: you think there's going to be like a drop in

1359
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: the talent level in the NFL the next five to

1360
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: seven years with guys not kind of, because you have

1361
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: to be forging fire a little bit. When it comes

1362
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: to college. You have to go through the ship, the

1363
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: six am winter conditioning type of situations and a lot

1364
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 4: of guys are when it gets too difficult now, they'll

1365
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: just leave. And if they're not pressed to move forward

1366
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: and grow, they're gonna be a less than player. Do

1367
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: you think there's gonna be a you'll see toughness, yeah,

1368
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: raw without mental tough Well, well we.

1369
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 6: Just said the thing I think is the key ingredient

1370
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 6: in being a pro football player. It's mental toughness. I

1371
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 6: don't care where you go, what round, or who you

1372
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 6: play for. You're gonna get your ass knocked off in

1373
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 6: the NFL and the media is gonna jump on you.

1374
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 6: That's just the reality of it. And if you don't

1375
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 6: have mental toughness to lean on, you're out. You're gonna

1376
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 6: be gone early. But I worry about the state of

1377
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 6: college football what we're doing. I mean, these guys are

1378
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 6: pulling out of bowl games. Guys are in the nil

1379
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 6: portal before the season is over. How would you look

1380
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 6: at your teammate if you had a left guard playing

1381
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 6: next to ye at Michigan, it's entering the portal before

1382
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 6: you play in a bowl game. That would probably piss

1383
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 6: you off.

1384
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: It's hortally the playoff, like the portal's open. Now it's

1385
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: like these teams are going to try and make a

1386
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: push to win a national title, and you got guys

1387
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: kind of flirting with the next girl. Yeah, that's crazy.

1388
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: It's got to be just because when Will and I

1389
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 4: were in college, it was you pick a school, You're

1390
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: at that school for four years. If you want to transfer,

1391
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: you to sit out for a year and lose a

1392
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: year of eligibility. So there's a lot of risk if

1393
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: you want to make it that dramatic of a change.

1394
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: So you either, you know, buy in or get the

1395
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: fuck out. And I could not imagine sitting next to

1396
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: a left guard or a tight end and blocking with

1397
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 4: them while they're like going gonna go to some other school,

1398
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 4: whether it's in the SEC or another school in the

1399
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 4: Big Ten. That's got to be difficult for players to

1400
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: deal with.

1401
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: The worst one would be just knowing a guy's bitching

1402
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: about the situation and you're trying to go, like win

1403
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: a football game.

1404
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, brother, we're trying to win this game.

1405
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 4: That's all matters. And Will and I are a big

1406
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 4: drink the kool aid guys like we when we were

1407
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 4: playing our sport on our team, it was like living

1408
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: and breathing and dying for that team.

1409
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 6: I really didn't want our scouts to bring in a

1410
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 6: lot of players that were transferred players, guys that quit

1411
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 6: at Michigan and went to Notre Dame and went from

1412
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 6: the I wanted guys that were finishers, that started and

1413
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 6: finished the job, signed up and executed their mission. Now

1414
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to adapt to that philosophy. You're gonna

1415
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 6: have to take some guys that are bouncing around. But

1416
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 6: I've met with some of these kids that have entered

1417
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 6: the portal, and a lot of it has to do

1418
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 6: with their situation. They don't have money, they don't have

1419
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 6: two parents, they weren't raised with everything given to them,

1420
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 6: they don't have any money, and all of a sudden,

1421
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 6: you get somebody offer you seven hundred thousand or six

1422
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars. You can't blame these guys for chasing

1423
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 6: their dream and improving our family situation.

1424
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: And if you never had money before, it's hard to

1425
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 4: look at seven hundred thousand dollars and say no, I'm

1426
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 4: gonna hold out and wait. Yeah, there's another train of

1427
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 4: thought too. It's like, if you've been broke your whole life,

1428
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: what's being broke a couple more years and being a

1429
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 4: part of something special. Yeah, that's kind of the selling point.

1430
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 4: If you're a Kenny Dillingham from ASU, it's like, listen,

1431
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 4: we can't offer you all the money in the world,

1432
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 4: but there's something special going on here and eventually you're

1433
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: gonna make that money. It's just hard, man.

1434
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just need to find a way to not

1435
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: make it free agency all year round.

1436
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the coach all recruit.

1437
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: You're already recruit your ass off to get the next

1438
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: guys in, but you got to recruit your ass off

1439
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: for the guys that are there, and then these portal

1440
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: situations and opportunities open up, like while you're in the

1441
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: middle of a season. So I just feel like something,

1442
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: there's got to be a solution that's gonna come.

1443
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 6: Well, you guys come from the big time. You guys

1444
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 6: come from Nebraska, Michigan.

1445
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: I played at Dayton.

1446
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 6: You know I got friends at coach in the Mid

1447
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 6: American Conference. This picture yourself at Toledo or Western Michigan

1448
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 6: or Kent State. You're coaching your ass off. You find

1449
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 6: these players that aren't five star players, that are maybe

1450
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 6: one star players. You feed them, you develop them, and

1451
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 6: as they become all conference players in the Mid American League,

1452
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 6: sophomores or juniors. Here comes Nebraska, here comes Michigan. You

1453
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 6: take all my players, man, and you pay them, and

1454
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 6: what do I get? You know what I get? I

1455
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 6: get nothing? Thissses me off man. So the smaller schools

1456
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 6: are the ones that are getting punched in the mouth.

1457
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 6: And you know that's just part of the program right now.

1458
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: The friends and coaches that you know and have are

1459
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: they is like some of their philosophy just recruiting guys

1460
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: about hey, you can be this could be a stepping zone.

1461
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: I'll get you to the next league.

1462
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean recruiting now is it's a totally different deal.

1463
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 6: You got some guy walking in your office that's managing Hey,

1464
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 6: I got Taylor Luwe and Will Compton. This guy's represent

1465
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 6: you to guys and he's telling me, Hey, if you

1466
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 6: want Luwan and Compton, you got to pay him this

1467
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 6: and pay him that. And if you pay me, I'll

1468
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 6: make sure you get these two guys. So now you're

1469
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 6: dealing out. You're dealing with a lot of variables that

1470
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 6: has nothing to do with football, and it's a problem.

1471
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: It's a problem. That's a good point.

1472
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 4: Did you tweet something yesterday about agency king twenty percent?

1473
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, there's there are agencies and I mean you

1474
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: were with CAA, Like, there's agencies where you get like

1475
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL, it's bigger contracts, bigger money to where

1476
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: you're paying them one to three percent. And then if

1477
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: you have like a marketing rep, there's there's like a

1478
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: ten to twenty percent cut that they take if they

1479
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: were to get your twist the tea or body armor,

1480
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean to be like in a commercial.

1481
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: So I understand that there are quality agencies that command

1482
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: ten to twenty percent in total off of you know,

1483
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: two three hundred thousand dollars. I understand that the problem

1484
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: I have is knowing that you have and you learned

1485
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: about in college, that these runners that take place, like

1486
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: you could be represented by coach Gruden. He's your agent,

1487
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: he's your agency. I could be somebody that goes to Tennessee,

1488
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: Nebraska and Michigan just doing my own thing and getting

1489
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: your market understanding. Hey, if Taylor hit the portal, what

1490
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: would he be worth? Four hundred thousand, five hundred thousand,

1491
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars? And then I DM and message

1492
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: you and start to poach and do all these things,

1493
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: and I know nothing about your situation, your experience anything.

1494
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make a quick buck off you

1495
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: because I know I can get twenty percent if I

1496
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: start dangling these carrots in front of you, Like, hey,

1497
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: I know you're with him making three hundred thousand, but

1498
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I'm feeling the temperature there.

1499
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: You can make up to seven hundred thousand if you

1500
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: come with me. And so there's just so many muddy waters.

1501
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: Nobody's out there, you know, telling all the truth of

1502
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: it all because everybody it's just an open market. The

1503
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: business has got to figure itself out. College football has

1504
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: got to step in and put some parameters somewhere, and guys, unfortunately,

1505
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: are gonna have to kids are gonna have to, unfortunately

1506
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: learn the hard way at times. It's gonna have to

1507
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: sort of self out. But that's like the issue I

1508
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: have is knowing that I get it. It's a business.

1509
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: It's an open market. We live in a free market.

1510
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: We want players to get paid. College Foe makes millions

1511
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: and billions of dollars off this stuff. I understand all that,

1512
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: but we know at the same time too, Like we

1513
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: were those players. We were those guys in college and

1514
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: you understand how important development is, how important adversity is,

1515
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: how important being forged in the fire is. And maybe

1516
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: you are in a situation where, hey, you should transfer.

1517
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that just get the wrong

1518
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: information and bad information and they're getting bad mentoring, or

1519
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: they're getting no mentoring at all. They're just chasing money

1520
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: when it's like, you know you. I just hate to

1521
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: see that happen with kids. I like to see that

1522
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: happen with college football because it hurts the product that

1523
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: ultimately leads into the NFL to where that's you know,

1524
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: that becomes a bad product because the fundamentals and technique

1525
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: is off. It's way worse just because of the quality.

1526
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: These kids aren't going and choosing football because they want

1527
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: to be great football players. They want to, they think

1528
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: they want to, but then they get be dazzled by

1529
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: money and everything else. And again I understand it. I

1530
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: just hate this wild West that we're living in because

1531
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to figure out what this nil world is

1532
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: because nobody really talks about it. Whole lot. There's a

1533
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: lot of shit that goes.

1534
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 6: On that was really fucking well. I mean that was

1535
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 6: well said right there.

1536
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean think about it, like, you know, coach Norvale,

1537
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: he's with Colorado State, he was kind of talking on it.

1538
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: But coaches can't speak on it too much because you

1539
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: don't know all the legality is going on. You're in

1540
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: with the nil collective, like they have their own stories

1541
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: and drama. Coaches understand what their situation is. Players understand

1542
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: what their situation. It's just it's fucking bizarre right now.

1543
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: And as a coach, as a college coach, your whole

1544
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 4: thing with these young players is eighteen to twenty two

1545
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 4: year olds is all about limiting distractions. And when we

1546
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 4: were you know, oh now I was nine to thirteen,

1547
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 4: you were eight to twelve. Yeah, when you're there in college,

1548
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 4: then it's it's a game of like limiting distractions with alcohol,

1549
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 4: with assholes and women like that. Those are the those

1550
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 4: are the big three pillars. Now you're throwing money in

1551
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 4: the whole thing too, because as a as a player,

1552
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 4: you're looking at that pot of gold at the end

1553
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 4: of the of the dark tunnel. But now there's little

1554
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: flickers of lights with a little bag here, a little

1555
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 4: back there that can get you on the wrong path,

1556
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 4: and then you don't get fours in the fire, you

1557
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 4: lose a technique and you become a lesser football player.

1558
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 4: That hurts you in the end that when you're twenty

1559
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: five years old, a couple years in the league, that

1560
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: second contract might not be as good, which would be

1561
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 4: way more money than you would have ever made in college.

1562
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a whole thing.

1563
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: I just I just hate the money hungry.

1564
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 6: It makes it interesting, really interesting. Man is sitting here

1565
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 6: looking at you two guys on this bus. Man, I

1566
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 6: mean I've known you guys as players, and I've seen

1567
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 6: you guys on this bus. And to think that you

1568
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 6: guys have turned this into I mean an unbelievable deal.

1569
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 6: I mean, you guys are killing it.

1570
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,360
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1571
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:03,280
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1572
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,840
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Speaker 6: I just I hate to interrupt you guys and change subjects,

1580
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 6: but this nil kind of rubbs me wrong. But you know,

1581
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 6: success on the field is one thing, but transition in Like,

1582
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 6: I just for all the young guys out there, can

1583
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 6: you just tell me how you transition into this thing

1584
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 6: right here and have created and reinvented yourselves here. This

1585
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 6: is pretty freaking cool man.

1586
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to take the first part of that, yea,

1587
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 4: because it's a story We've told a lot on the bus.

1588
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: But it is just cool.

1589
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 6: But a lot of players, you know, they get out

1590
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 6: of football, they kind of search for their next game,

1591
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 6: their next thing. How did you guys do this?

1592
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? I speaking for myself. I feel like I was

1593
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: in I was in year six with the Tennessee Titans,

1594
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: and you know, Coach, like when I got to play

1595
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: for you, like I cut my teeth into the league

1596
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: with your brother at Washington. And in my situation, if

1597
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm a backup and a special teams guy, I don't

1598
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: want anybody to get hurt. But if I'm gonna get

1599
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: my opportunity. You know, you're gonna need the guy to

1600
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: go down in front of you and then hey, I

1601
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: get to show them what I'm about. I can show

1602
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: them that I can rock the green dot, do all

1603
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: those things. And so when I didn't get that opportunity

1604
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: in my sixth year, I'm kind of sitting there with myself.

1605
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: You know, there's things I'm interested in. I know I

1606
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: want to coach, I have interest in, like the real estate.

1607
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: You're trying to you're trying to figure out where your

1608
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: curiosities go because at some point the game is going

1609
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: to end. It's going to end sooner than you think.

1610
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: It's probably not gonna end on your terms like most guys.

1611
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: And so, just knowing that I love podcasting, I end

1612
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: up asking Taylor if he wanted to start a podcast

1613
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: with me. He was all in, and I'm kind of

1614
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, people do make money in this

1615
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: podcasting world. If we could, you know, if we could

1616
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: you know, have the uh, if we're able to spin

1617
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: it and transition and use this as a transitional point,

1618
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: like how great would that be? And so for me,

1619
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: it was like, all right, I'm going to start a

1620
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: podcast I could play myself out of the league because

1621
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: nobody in the NFL world's really doing it. McAfee retired

1622
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: to go into barstool Media and then the media in general.

1623
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: But nobody's really doing it. And I know how coaches

1624
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: and I know how front office and people can feel

1625
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: about players being on a public platform, especially when it's

1626
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: like I'm not. I wasn't in a situation where I'm

1627
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: getting a big second contract like I was going into

1628
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: that offseason knowing I was going to be a ninety

1629
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: man guy having to make a fifty three roster and

1630
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: who wants any of that luggage or extra drama. So

1631
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I play myself out of the league,

1632
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: but it's you know, if we're able to transition and

1633
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: create something like you know, then that's just the risk

1634
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: that I'll take. Fortunately, I got to continue doing it

1635
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: and being on the podcast, doing the podcast, being on

1636
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: the bus, going to play for you, playing with the

1637
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: Tites again, and doing it for a few more years.

1638
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: But ultimately for me, it was like, hey, this game

1639
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: is going to end at some point. I need to

1640
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: understand where my interests are, where my curiosity lies, and

1641
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: try to do whatever I can and to have the

1642
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: autonomy to do it myself before I have to go, like,

1643
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: work for the man, And who knows if I'm working

1644
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: for the man, if it's going to be in the

1645
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: right situation. When you're done playing football, we get catered

1646
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: to our entire lives. The structures there. You get a

1647
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: motivational speech, You understand how tough it is, you want

1648
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: to be forging the fire. You have all those skills

1649
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 1: to transition. However, you don't get the highs of playing

1650
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: at that elite level of the NFL, right going out

1651
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: there on prime time, winning with the band of brothers.

1652
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: And when that gets pulled away, a lot of guys

1653
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: struggle because it's like, where's our next roller coaster? Where's

1654
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: our next high We played on such a high level.

1655
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: The logo, even though they tell you, Coach Gruden, you

1656
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: know you guys got to sacrifice for this logo. Everything

1657
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 1: you guys pour into this, we're doing it for a team, team, team, team.

1658
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: The minute the team is you're not on the team anymore.

1659
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: That logo isn't calling you back to make sure you

1660
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: get your next job. So it's all about how can

1661
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: we control our situation? And I feel like We've been

1662
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: able to create Bustle with the boys, and it's been

1663
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: incredible because the big thing you miss when you leave

1664
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: is the locker room, right, we've gotten to create something

1665
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: off that. But that's like, that was like my train

1666
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: of thought going into busting with you.

1667
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's interesting because you kind of see,

1668
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 4: like Will and I's pass how different they were entering

1669
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 4: the NFL. Because when I got a scholarship offer in Scottsdale,

1670
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 4: Arizona for the first time, it's from Utah State. Right

1671
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 4: then and there, I thought to myself, I'm going to

1672
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 4: the NFL. Like that is now my my path of

1673
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 4: life has now is very clear. And as a football

1674
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: player who lives breeze and eats and loves the game

1675
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: of football, you truly think the most audiable death is

1676
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 4: probably to die in between the hashes, Like that is

1677
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 4: kind of the way you want to go. You like,

1678
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 4: you look in the mirror before a game with tears

1679
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 4: in your eyes and you think, if today is the day.

1680
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 4: I go like, it's a good fucking day and it's

1681
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 4: time to go out there. So for me, I was

1682
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 4: always a guy that's like I was never focused on

1683
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 4: what's next. I was always focused on right now, and

1684
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 4: it was you know, playing well and getting to the NFL.

1685
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 4: So I go to Michigan, I become a first round pick,

1686
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: and when Will Compton comes to the Tennessee Titans, I

1687
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 4: just signed the biggest deal in NFL history for an

1688
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 4: offensive lineman. To me, everything is going according to plan

1689
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 4: where I'm not seeing the inevitable end of what every

1690
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 4: player has to go through. Even if you're Tom Brady

1691
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: who can beat Father Time like you were always going

1692
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 4: to the game is always gonna walk away from you

1693
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 4: before you walk away from it. So when Will approaches

1694
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 4: me about doing a podcast, I'm thinking to myself, dude,

1695
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 4: like I guess, and I just in my head I

1696
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 4: canpartmentalize it as like, well, people do real estate, people

1697
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 4: do stocks, like this is the same thing. It's just

1698
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 4: an investment. I just happened to be in the public

1699
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 4: eye and you mentioned it in the locker room. I'm

1700
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 4: not like your stereotypical office lineman, a scene not heard

1701
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 4: type of guy. I'm very much seen and very much heard.

1702
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 4: So like it was an opportunity for me to kind

1703
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 4: of like allow this personality to come out. And it

1704
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 4: was like you know. To me, I thought like, I

1705
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 4: don't know what this is gonna be. This might be

1706
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 4: just a fun little game.

1707
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: Guys take a couple of video games in there at home.

1708
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: It's like you're coming in.

1709
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, just coming, come and rip in a podcast. And

1710
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 4: it turned into this and it couldn't have happened at

1711
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 4: a better time. I remember I bought so the house

1712
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 4: I live in now. I bought the land and I

1713
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 4: was building and Will and I walking around the property

1714
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 4: and it was right, it was like right before the

1715
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 4: season or right after the season, and it Will was like,

1716
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: this is my last year. I don't want to do

1717
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 4: it again. I played that game with him for three

1718
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 4: more years. Every year it was this is my last year.

1719
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 4: I don't want to do it again. And then it

1720
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 4: was like, you know, maybe they could sneak in and

1721
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 4: get rid of camp. And then he started playing the game,

1722
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 4: and so like while we're both still playing in the NFL,

1723
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 4: Bustin's kind of just like chugging along and grow getting

1724
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 4: more and more followers and people are more.

1725
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: We go into our stool.

1726
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 4: We got a barstool early and often, which you're gonna

1727
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 4: come to find out, is like the greatest teacher in

1728
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 4: this world. It's it's that gives you the ability to

1729
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 4: be yourself unapologetically be yourself the good and the bad,

1730
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 4: and be everyone be like, that's all right, You're a

1731
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 4: part of barstool. You can do whatever you want here.

1732
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: And so it is. It's interesting how it all turned out,

1733
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 4: and you just kind of look back and you're like,

1734
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 4: it's kind of fucking crazy. Like in my mind, I'm

1735
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 4: like I kind of just luked into this. I kind

1736
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 4: of just like fell into meeting Will, and Will wanted

1737
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 4: to do this and he didn't. He wanted the safety

1738
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 4: blanket of doing with somebody else.

1739
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: And I have read safety chemistry too.

1740
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's beautiful.

1741
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: Like when you signed the big deal, there's a part

1742
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: in my brain I'm like, well, the team won't be

1743
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: able to touch him because he's the highest paid player

1744
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: on their team. Hey, if I play myself out, I'm

1745
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: just not going to get a phone call again. Yeah,

1746
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: it's like, fuck it.

1747
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,480
Speaker 4: Let's just we knew we had three years of guarantee.

1748
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: To do what we want to.

1749
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 4: End up working out.

1750
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, ended up working out for it, ends up calling

1751
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: and I go out to I go out to Oakland, Yeah,

1752
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: but you've.

1753
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 4: Bale a lot of transition too when you were going

1754
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 4: from the NFL into commentating, Like a lot of coaches

1755
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 4: try to do that. A lot of coaches try to

1756
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 4: dip their toe into the media space. But you came

1757
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 4: in and you murdered it. The ability to know what

1758
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: every player's callers they went to, and their mascot and

1759
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 4: you just talk about guys if you've known them for

1760
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 4: twenty years. How did how was that transition for you

1761
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 4: from going from coaching to media.

1762
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 6: Well, I was a communications major in college. I always

1763
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 6: wanted to do the news. I always wanted to be

1764
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 6: a sportscaster. Really, if I wasn't going to coach. Oh,

1765
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 6: excuse me if you want to answer that.

1766
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: To dude, you gotta do yet.

1767
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 4: You kind of want to take that, don't you.

1768
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry I didn't turn it off. But Mike

1769
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 6: Tariko was the key for me. I mean, I got

1770
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 6: I got fired. I was really humbled. I was really down,

1771
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 6: and the NFL network called me and asked me to

1772
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 6: come to the Combine and do some segments covering the combine.

1773
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 6: Steve mary Yucci's a friend of mine, says, come on,

1774
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 6: So I got right up to the combine, I said,

1775
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 6: I can't do it. I was just humiliated. I didn't

1776
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 6: want to go to the combine and see all my

1777
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 6: coaching friends after just being fired. I was embarrassed. So

1778
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 6: Mooch says, come on, let's go. So I ended up

1779
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 6: doing it, and I guess I did pretty good. And

1780
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 6: some guys at Monday Night Football saw me and we

1781
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 6: had a chance to interview. But when I met Turico,

1782
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 6: long story showed short. He helped me big time. He

1783
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 6: threw me great fruits that I could hit. He would

1784
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 6: hit me, you know, and probe me, and he really

1785
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 6: helped me with my preparation and my confidence. But it

1786
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 6: was a transition. It was pretty interesting. I really enjoyed

1787
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 6: the three man booth when we had Jaworski up there,

1788
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 6: because we would bust each other's balls and it was

1789
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 6: almost like three guys at a bar watching a football game.

1790
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,440
Speaker 6: That's what I felt like. But it was a great trendransition,

1791
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 6: a lot of fun, and it allowed me to get

1792
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 6: the tapes, keep studying. We got our quarterback camp going

1793
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 6: in the spring, which kind of kept me going with

1794
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 6: the draft and ultimately led to my return to the Raiders.

1795
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 6: Unfortunately I did last long.

1796
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about how hard it was, the transition. You're

1797
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: talking about being embarrassed and humiliated. You are like a

1798
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: you were like a super Bowl winning coach and you

1799
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: were somebody who got traded.

1800
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that was hard too. But you know, when

1801
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 6: you get fired, you guys know it is you're eventually

1802
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 6: even you got cut, it's it. Maybe you decided yourself,

1803
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 6: but maybe you saw the writing on the wall. At

1804
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 6: some point somebody says, yeah, you're fired, and it catches you.

1805
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 6: But when I did go back, it was it was

1806
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 6: a lot different. The world had completely changed. What's really

1807
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 6: hard is hiring a coaching staff. When you're the head coach,

1808
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 6: the most important thing you got to do is hire

1809
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 6: the right coaches. I'm going to call the plays and

1810
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 6: coach the quarterbacks. That's just how I did it. But

1811
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 6: you better hire the right defensive staff. You know, you

1812
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 6: better get the right personnel group around you that sees

1813
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 6: the vision that you have for the team or vice versa.

1814
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 6: We have to see it the same way. But that

1815
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 6: was a big challenge is surrounding yourself with guys that

1816
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 6: you grew up with. A lot of those guys had

1817
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 6: their own jobs. They couldn't get out of their contracts.

1818
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 6: It's a pain in the ass man, getting your network

1819
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 6: together on the same staff so you can go in

1820
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 6: and do what you want to do.

1821
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 4: When you are picking out those coaches, you're talking about

1822
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: your buddies. How hard is it to get a phone

1823
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 4: call from a guy that you may have known for

1824
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 4: a long time, that you know is not the right

1825
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,919
Speaker 4: person for the job. What's that conversation?

1826
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 6: Law man? It's hard, you know. You got to say

1827
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 6: I'm going in another direction, and you lose some friends.

1828
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 6: It's hard to have a lot of friends, you know.

1829
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to turn a guy down. You can't

1830
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 6: do it. You got a job open, Hey, I need

1831
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 6: the job. I don't have a job. I need this job,

1832
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 6: and you got to let them down and sometimes it

1833
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 6: costs you. But there's a lot of hard lessons and

1834
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 6: mental toughness that you gotta understand come with being the

1835
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 6: head coach.

1836
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were in media for those nine years,

1837
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: was the goal always to get back in the NFL

1838
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: and be a coach.

1839
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 6: It was initially I thought I'd be right back in

1840
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 6: doing something right. But the more I got around Tarrico

1841
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 6: and Jaworski and the Dun Dun Dunt dah. I mean

1842
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 6: I love that song, man, Yeah, And there was a

1843
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 6: certain as a kid growing up, I love Monday Night Football.

1844
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 6: My mom and dad would let me stay up to

1845
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,799
Speaker 6: watch the highlights at halftime, Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford.

1846
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 6: I felt honored to be on Monday Night Football, but

1847
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 6: I ultimately knew I had to get back on the sidelines.

1848
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 6: And I still miss it. Man, I still would like

1849
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 6: to take one more swing. But right now I'm busting

1850
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 6: with the boys and I'm with Barstool and I'm having fun.

1851
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,480
Speaker 1: Man, Are you hoping to get back on the sideline?

1852
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know fantasy. I live in fantasy

1853
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 6: world a little bit. I'm no different than I was

1854
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 6: when I was eighteen years old. You know, I fantasize

1855
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 6: about stuff, and I still fantasize about getting a can

1856
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 6: of whoop ass and going out there with a bunch

1857
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 6: of guys and just kicking a shit out of some boy.

1858
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 6: I just like that competitive game day feeling. I just

1859
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 6: know you can't get that anywhere else.

1860
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 4: Man, the butterflies, the juice. We were a smelling salt guy.

1861
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 6: No I've never did that. I never had to do that.

1862
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 4: The smelling salts were always It just adds that level

1863
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 4: of anxiety to a whole new fun level. But dude,

1864
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 4: when the Jets fired for their head coach, I think

1865
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 4: it was was it Booger came out and he's like,

1866
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 4: one name you need to think about right now is

1867
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 4: John Gruden. And for the last couple of years, your

1868
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 4: name wasn't really thrown around the whole coaching realm, and

1869
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, your name is now starting to

1870
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 4: find its way back into the NFL. When you start

1871
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 4: to hear that, are you getting phone calls about anything?

1872
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: Or are you just the media is starting to talk

1873
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: and you're letting them do their thing, because that's how

1874
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 4: everything works. All it takes is one person to say

1875
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 4: your name and then it's slowly, like a snowball, just

1876
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 4: starts getting bigger and bigger as it rolls down a hill.

1877
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 6: Just a few conversations, you know. I think the big

1878
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 6: thing I'm trying to do right now is coach people

1879
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 6: that I have the FFCA, I have a you have

1880
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 6: an office, I have my own I got my video tapes,

1881
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 6: and I'm obsessed with it. We have a lot of coaches,

1882
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 6: a lot of players. Uh, just different coaching staffs that

1883
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 6: have come in and we study football, and I really

1884
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 6: am getting my fix doing that. I really don't need

1885
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 6: this nil stuff. I would I would give me a

1886
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 6: heart attack.

1887
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 1: Would you coach college?

1888
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 6: You know I might if it was a big program

1889
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 6: with a lot of nil money, because I'd buy a

1890
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 6: lot of players, and I guarantee I could walk across

1891
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 6: when we play Nebraska. You know what I'd do after

1892
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 6: the game, I'd go find the two or three guys

1893
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 6: that aren't playing a lot that I like. I'd say,

1894
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 6: you know what, you got to get your ass out

1895
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 6: of here, come play. I would do a good job

1896
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 6: of that. I can see my snake. But now I'm wired.

1897
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 6: I just I just am not wired. Like they're doing

1898
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 6: business now in college. I can't deal with a lot

1899
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 6: of this financial you know, paying you a million dollars

1900
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 6: in the weak side linebacker gets a hundred or this

1901
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 6: guy here, this guy gets nothing. I just have a

1902
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 6: hard time. I'm with the salary structure and the whole

1903
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 6: overall operation.

1904
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: But that's just me.

1905
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 4: When you see a guy like Bill Belichick with the

1906
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 4: resume that he has, looking at UNC. Is it confirmed now?

1907
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 4: Is he now the Tar Hills head coach?

1908
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: He's willing to coach at the time we're recording this.

1909
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: The post that I saw was like the North Carolina

1910
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: Tar Hills they would know their decision within twenty four hours.

1911
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 4: With Bill Belichick coaching now in college? Like, what's your

1912
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 4: thought process? Seeing that?

1913
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 6: I'm not really shocked as many people are. I think

1914
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 6: he's got a son who's a very good young coach.

1915
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 6: The opportunity to maybe bring your son with you at

1916
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 6: Chapel Hill, Chapel You guys have been.

1917
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: At Chapel Hill.

1918
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 6: There's a lot of good stuff there. Man to go

1919
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 6: to Chapel Hill, you know, finish your coaching career with

1920
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 6: your son. Perhaps get the program back to where people say, wow,

1921
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 6: we got to play North Carolina and maybe someday have

1922
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 6: your son take over. Maybe that's something that's in the cards.

1923
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 6: I don't know. But he's got a new girlfriend. I

1924
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 6: see that all over the internet. Things don't ever stay

1925
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 6: the same. You either get better or worse, and I

1926
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 6: think Belichick might be looking for something a little different.

1927
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 6: How would you like to live in New England for

1928
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 6: fifteen years? Girlfriend has some fun kick some ass and

1929
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 6: be with your son. You know, I think Belichick is

1930
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 6: capable of doing just about anything in football. He's already

1931
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 6: done it, and good for him if he chooses to

1932
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 6: get into the NC. How would you like that? Though,

1933
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,879
Speaker 6: if you're coaching in the ACC, you're at Wake Forest

1934
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 6: or you're at Duke, you're the Miami Hurricanes, and you

1935
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 6: open up with Bill Belichick.

1936
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Speaker 4: I know, I was impressed how well he's done in

1937
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 4: the media this year. I did not think you heard,

1938
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 4: like Gronkowski and Edelman and Brady kind of like chirp

1939
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 4: about to talk about how bland he is and how

1940
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: he's kind of.

1941
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: Have to see it for fifteen years.

1942
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, got to see it, just kind of talking to

1943
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 4: the media. Now he comes in, he's doing Manning cast,

1944
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 4: he's on Pat McAfee show, and he does an incredible job.

1945
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 4: Did you expect that?

1946
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 9: No?

1947
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 6: I really didn't. But as I said, I I don't

1948
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 6: know Bill Belichick like a lot of guys do. I

1949
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 6: don't hang around with the defensive guys. The offensive guys

1950
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 6: get on this bus. The defensive guys have always been

1951
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 6: on that bus. But I remember when I was coaching

1952
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 6: the Raiders, I got a call from Bill and he says, hey,

1953
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 6: I heard you like bon Jovi. My wife loves we

1954
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 6: love bon Jovi. I go, yeah, we really do. Like

1955
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 6: he's playing in San Jose Saturday night. You want to

1956
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 6: meet him and get two tickets? I say, hell yeah.

1957
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 6: So I've always been indebted to Bill Belichick. He's a

1958
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 6: cool guy, man. I mean, he is a really cool guy,

1959
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 6: and I just think it's exciting at his age to

1960
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 6: reinvent himself and come back, perhaps as a college coach

1961
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 6: says a lot about him.

1962
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about you have this football facility in Tampa.

1963
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: What does your week look like like? When do you

1964
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: wake up? How is your routine on a day to day? Yeah?

1965
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 6: I got to have a routine, you know, Monday through Sunday.

1966
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 6: I have to have a routine. I always did as

1967
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 6: a coach. But Monday, I really like to go in

1968
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 6: there and look for my grinders, studying and looking at

1969
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 6: the Sunday the games, the statistics, the playtime percentages, who

1970
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 6: did what? My tapes really come in Tuesday morning. So

1971
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 6: Monday I'm kind of you know, getting my boards ready.

1972
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 6: You know, who really played well in third down? Who

1973
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 6: had the best scoring game? I want to see those games.

1974
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 6: How did Russell Wilson throw for four hundred yards? I

1975
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 6: can't wait till the tape comes in. But I kind

1976
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 6: of set up my Tuesday film study based on what

1977
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 6: I see Monday, and then Tuesdays like an all day.

1978
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 6: That's why it's crazy. I'm here flying out on Tuesday.

1979
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 6: I couldn't get to my tapes, man, you know. Then

1980
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 6: Wednesday I try to work on my presentation. I believe,

1981
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 6: you got to do the preparation. You gotta study the

1982
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 6: tapes for me to say this guy's playing good. I

1983
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 6: want to see that he's playing good. If this guy's

1984
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 6: playing bad you read about I got to see he's struggling,

1985
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 6: you know. But I do the preparation. Then on Wednesday,

1986
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 6: I start the presentation, start to send out my boards

1987
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 6: you know who I like, and I draw all my

1988
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 6: stuff up. And then Thursday I get into some behind

1989
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 6: the scenes things. I like to study red zone, just

1990
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 6: different short yardage things, different running backs, just different things.

1991
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 6: But I love to study three hard days and then

1992
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 6: I do like to get out on Friday. If I

1993
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 6: can't hit the golf.

1994
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: Ball, Yeah, what time? Been waking up throughout the week.

1995
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 6: I get up early, four thirty five o'clock, not like

1996
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 6: I used to. But my office is right down the street,

1997
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 6: half a mile from my house.

1998
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 4: So let me just pause you for a second. You

1999
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 4: said four to thirty five o'clock, now like I used to.

2000
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 4: What did you used to get up?

2001
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 6: I see up three o'clock three seventeen every day. Three

2002
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 6: seventeen was my number?

2003
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah?

2004
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 4: What time would you go to bed?

2005
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 6: I go to bed early. I go to bed at

2006
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 6: nine thirty ten o'clock. I try to be in bed

2007
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 6: by ten ten, ten o'clock the latest.

2008
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 4: Said ten ten. That is that's wild?

2009
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: What is that? What are the hours look like when

2010
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: you are the head coach? Are you there till midnight

2011
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: and waking up it? No?

2012
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 6: I could never do it at night. And I didn't

2013
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 6: want my coaches to feel like they had to come

2014
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 6: in at three o'clock or four o'clock. I didn't want

2015
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 6: them to feel like that at all. But I had

2016
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 6: to get in there early. Nobody bothering you, nobody's bitching,

2017
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 6: nobody's phones ringing. I had to focus my concentration on

2018
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 6: the scripts, you know, the cards you got to draw,

2019
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 6: the cards, the tip sheets for the quarterbacks and you know,

2020
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 6: I try to get out when the work is done.

2021
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 6: You know, I did not want to be in there

2022
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 6: all night.

2023
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 10: Now.

2024
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 6: When I worked for the Raiders, Al Davis was a

2025
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 6: night guy, so I would be a morning guy and

2026
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 6: Al would come in at seven o'clock at night. He

2027
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 6: almost killed me that first year. Finally I said, hey,

2028
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 6: something's got to give, man.

2029
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: I just can't.

2030
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 6: I can't stay in here till midnight. But that was

2031
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 6: a tough year. My Al broke me in pretty good man.

2032
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 4: We ended up this episode to bring you sport Clips.

2033
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 4: Are you tired of the waiting game and want to

2034
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 4: get your haircut? I feel you, dude, But guess what.

2035
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,280
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2036
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,880
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2037
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 4: the waiting room like a bench player while you watch

2038
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 4: people get their haircut. The Haircut Tracker will let you

2039
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 4: cut to the chase, real wait track, real time wait times,

2040
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 4: and geez and swooping right on time. That was supposed

2041
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 4: to be a rhyme, and I obviously messed up the rhyme.

2042
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,599
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2043
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,560
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2044
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,800
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2045
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 4: download the app, and always know where you stay at

2046
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,599
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2047
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Let's get back to this episode, man, I want to

2048
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: talk about I want to talk about the time you

2049
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: recruited me to come back to the Raiders. Yeah, if

2050
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 1: you can remember, I'll recall it a little bit. So

2051
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: I was there the last five games for Oakland. We

2052
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: had fun, like we weren't having the best season, went

2053
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 1: out on a decent note defensively, and Coach Groom brings

2054
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: me in for an exit meeting, you know, not like

2055
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: the nil exit meetings where it's like, hey, you gotta

2056
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: pay me this or I'm not coming back. But he

2057
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: brings me in on an exit meeting.

2058
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 10: Coach Green's like I need Will Compton back, Like you're

2059
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 10: not going to be a Hall of Famer, You're not

2060
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 10: gonna be a pro bowler. I'm sitting there in my

2061
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 10: head like I mean I'm still playing, and like, yeah,

2062
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 10: I understand I can't be a I probably won't be

2063
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 10: a pro bowler, but I can still aspire myself a

2064
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 10: little bit.

2065
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 4: Of juice and still could be a pro bowler.

2066
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: Thought that right, right right, He's like, I want you around.

2067
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: We need more. Will Compton's on the team, and I

2068
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen in free agency, YadA, YadA, YadA,

2069
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: because I got to play and start like three games

2070
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: there at the end, which I'm thinking in my head

2071
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,879
Speaker 1: when I went out there and I did my workout,

2072
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: I was on the squad, I was in the backup,

2073
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: all was special teams. I was starting in base that

2074
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: fucking first week. Right, Coach grew comes up. He's like, hey,

2075
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 1: just don't even think out there. Go out there and

2076
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: make plays that fun. I love you, man, that's awesome.

2077
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Who would you play first week? The Lions will play

2078
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: the Lions the first week, and uh so I ended

2079
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: up taking over the job finishing out those three games,

2080
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: and so I'm thinking of my head, I thought I

2081
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: was coming out there to kind of finish out my career, like,

2082
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: let me go out there. I'll go out on a bang,

2083
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: have some fun before the boys, bring some merchandise, promote busting,

2084
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: and just have a good time because the stress is

2085
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: off of Like I felt like my career was kind

2086
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: of done after I got injured with the Saints, and

2087
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, okay, I get to go out

2088
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: here and play like I'm just gonna go out fun

2089
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: and play finish off playing the game that I started loving.

2090
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: And so when I played those three games, I'm thinking

2091
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: in my head like maybe I might get a little

2092
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I might get a little something I knew. I

2093
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: bought myself a year or two just because I got

2094
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: to play again. I got to have some film. But

2095
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,879
Speaker 1: they're going to recruit me. They pay fifty million dollars

2096
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: to like little ten and Kwaikowski, great linebackers, good linebackers.

2097
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking in my head, like, you know, I

2098
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: thought I might get a little bit of I thought

2099
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: I might get a little bit of coin two or three.

2100
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot guaranteed money is what he wanted.

2101
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone does.

2102
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 4: Every player does.

2103
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 6: What I'm gonna interest it in, though, is I have

2104
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 6: this philosophy. It's called RCEE. You should get a hat

2105
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 6: and put RCEE on it. Recognition Communication execution. I think

2106
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 6: you got to have it at quarterback. The guy's got

2107
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 6: to recognize the defense and then communicate the lion call,

2108
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 6: the audible whatever, And that's gonna lead to high levels

2109
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 6: of execution. The thing I loved about Will is he

2110
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 6: could recognize the offense, he could recognize the situation, and

2111
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 6: he could communicate better than most guys I've seen at linebacker.

2112
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 6: He was a sharp guy, and that would lead to

2113
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 6: higher levels of execution. A lot of the yards you

2114
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 6: see are bullshit yards, bad tackling, bad defensive entry mistakes,

2115
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 6: a lack of recognition, a lack of communication. And if

2116
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 6: we can have that piece and a secure piece, that's

2117
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 6: what I was really after. But you were, let's be

2118
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 6: honest here, you could come out with that smiley face,

2119
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 6: with that microphone. You wanted guaranteed money, and I can't

2120
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 6: blame the guys go out to California and play football.

2121
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: You know.

2122
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 6: Vegas.

2123
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first year transferring, transitioning to Vegas

2124
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: because they had offered I had a minimum on the

2125
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: table with no signing bonus, which is like the games,

2126
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: the game. There was no market for me. So they

2127
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: were in a spot to where it's like, I mean,

2128
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: nothing else is out there for you. We'll offer you this,

2129
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: And you know, I got PG calling me. He's like

2130
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: explaining everything, he's like, and Coach Grud's like, I just

2131
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: want you around. I want to see you. I want

2132
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: them to see you communicate all this stuff. You don't

2133
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: have to practice, you don't have to do this. And

2134
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, like, I just came out there

2135
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: as a minimum player and proved that I could play

2136
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: like the week of the game, like I can do

2137
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: the same exact thing, and I put where in turn

2138
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: of my body for training camp, right, And I'm telling

2139
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: this always trading camp with you. It was always just yeah,

2140
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: it was always training camp. And PG was like, can

2141
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: you call coach Gruden and tell him the same stuff

2142
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: because he's coming in. He's like, how are we signing

2143
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: Prince of Mukamaru and Nelson Aguilar and Will won't come

2144
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 1: out here to the Raiders. I'm like, yeah, I'll be

2145
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: happy to talk to him. I called coach Coach Gruden

2146
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: and I think he was just finishing a workout. It

2147
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: sounded like he was sweating a little bit. He's like,

2148
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: Will Compton. He's like, you're harder to sign than Keyshawn Johnson. Man,

2149
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: how do we get you out here to the Raiders?

2150
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, yeah, I bet you over Keyshawn Johnson

2151
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: more than a minimum and a Subway gift card and

2152
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 1: we're like bantering, laughing back and forth, and uh yeah,

2153
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: I always loved that story. I couldn't wait to tell

2154
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: my old man because he's always been a massive fan

2155
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: of football in yourself. But that's my like recruiting story

2156
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: with coach Cruden. You're harder to sign than Key Shawn Johnson. Man,

2157
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, fuck, he mean he's getting it. I'm

2158
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: sure paid him some money.

2159
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had some characters in that Raiders team. What

2160
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 4: was your interactions like with Richie Incognito? Love him, great guy.

2161
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 6: Incognito is out of football, he had the episode with Miami.

2162
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 6: He's out of the league, and we brought him in

2163
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 6: for a workout and we have the Cones set up.

2164
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 6: We got Tom Cable, really good line coach been with

2165
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 6: Seattle a long time. And Incognito comes out and he's

2166
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 6: listening to Tom Cable tell him what he wants him

2167
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 6: to do. He wants him to hop basically the first

2168
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 6: ten yards Karaoka, do a couple other things just to

2169
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 6: showcase his athleticism and his you know, his whatever. How

2170
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 6: he can bend and twist. Incognito goes around the thing

2171
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 6: one time, half speed, and cable goes. I've seen enough. Really,

2172
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 6: he's a great at Incognito is a really good apt

2173
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 6: people do with that. He went to Nebraska. He's a

2174
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 6: little full of shit like Compton, but you know, he

2175
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 6: has the it factor that we needed. He had the nastiness,

2176
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 6: he had the he has the Taylor Luwan personality. He's

2177
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 6: very outgoing. He's not afraid to say something. He'll make

2178
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 6: you laugh, he'll piss you off. He had everything we

2179
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 6: needed at Guard and he could pull on the power

2180
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 6: plays and it just he has a great ability to

2181
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 6: get out on screens. But I love being around him.

2182
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 6: He comes to Tampa, we played golf a little bit.

2183
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 6: He likes my wife. My wife's about this tall, and

2184
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 6: he's been through a lot in his life. But he's

2185
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 6: he's he's really a character. We had Vontez Perfect, we

2186
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 6: had traded for Antonio Brown. They put us on hard knocks.

2187
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 6: What a collection I was assembly you guys, Yes, I

2188
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 6: was trying to bring back the old Raiders eighty Raiders.

2189
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: You did it. How was it?

2190
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 4: What was it like having Perfect and Ab on the

2191
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 4: same team, Because obviously there's a whole thing about CTESPN

2192
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 4: that AB's doing and you see that hit, that perfect

2193
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 4: put on ab like was there ever? Did you have

2194
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 4: to make amends there?

2195
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 6: I never got around Antonio enough. You know, Antonio showed

2196
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 6: up on a hot air balloon. He had his feet fried,

2197
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 6: he had cryo therapy. I never even heard of croywd therapy.

2198
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 6: And he had an issue with his helmet. He wasn't

2199
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 6: happy the NFL wouldn't let him wear his helmet. So

2200
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 6: we really never got him around the guys very much.

2201
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 6: I didn't have very much interaction with him at all. Really,

2202
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 6: one of the most frustrating things in my coaching career

2203
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 6: was not getting him to play for us. We had

2204
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 6: a mini camp. I tell you, we had a mini

2205
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 6: camp back in Oakland. He put on a display. He

2206
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 6: took some of our routes that we like to call lookies.

2207
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 6: I got all these words. He made the routes look

2208
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 6: better than anybody I've ever seen. His conditioning was sick.

2209
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 6: If we didn't have a fence around the field, he

2210
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 6: might have got killed by a car. Because he finishes everything.

2211
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 6: He'll run one hundred miles an hour. I thought. I

2212
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 6: went home and got hammered. One night after mini camp.

2213
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 6: I told my wife and said, We're going to complete

2214
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 6: every pass. That's how good this guy looked. He was phenomenal,

2215
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 6: and unfortunately I never got him for one freaking game.

2216
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 4: What's the conversation with Mayok when they're like you like, hey,

2217
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 4: what's the problem with ab And they're like, doesn't like

2218
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 4: his helmet? His feet were fried from CROWFD therapy. What

2219
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 4: are those upstairs conversations like when you're trying to deal

2220
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 4: with a guy like that.

2221
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 6: Well, Mike was a new GM too, so a lot

2222
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,839
Speaker 6: of this stuff is his first time and experience.

2223
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: It was.

2224
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 6: It was a rough deal and you're on hard knocks.

2225
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 6: Then he got vontez Berfeckt. But the two of those guys,

2226
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 6: they they mixed pretty good. They kind of laughed with

2227
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 6: one another, and Richie was kind of like the third

2228
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 6: part of the party. Those conversations were great. How you

2229
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 6: talk about busting with the boys, you should see some

2230
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 6: of the boys I bust with. But I I always

2231
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 6: felt this, if you have football character on your team,

2232
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 6: and we felt our coaching staff. You know, we had

2233
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 6: Derek Carr, we had some really good veteran players, good

2234
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 6: football character. Let's bring in some characters. So we bring

2235
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 6: in Perfick. You know, Perfect really is. He's a great guy,

2236
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 6: and he's a smart guy. He just knocks the shit

2237
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 6: out of you. And what's wrong with that? I mean

2238
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 6: that's my feeling. And uh, I think if you do

2239
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 6: have the character in play, so you can bring in

2240
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 6: some characters and have some fun. And Richie Incognito is

2241
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 6: a great guy. Don't don't don't kid yourself on Perfect either.

2242
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 6: He's really smart and he's really a hell of a guy.

2243
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:14,719
Speaker 6: He's misunderstood perhaps by some. And I really enjoyed Antonio Brown.

2244
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 6: I mean, hell, he he went out with my son.

2245
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 6: He cut a song. They got a song out there.

2246
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna tell you the name.

2247
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 1: We gotta find that song.

2248
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 4: Sure will definitely find that thing before day's end.

2249
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: And even on Incognito too, like he was he was

2250
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: how old was he? He was like the oldest player

2251
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: of fours and he was a pro. I'm talking about

2252
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 1: like whenever practice with any at the massage therapists, I'd

2253
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: be coming in the needle and he'd begin done like

2254
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: somebody who like took care of his body around the clock.

2255
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 4: And working out with him in Arizona. He is a

2256
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 4: guy that like doesn't necessarily look like an athlete, but

2257
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 4: is truly athletic, Like he has all the pieces of

2258
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 4: an office line you would want.

2259
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 6: He's stout too, Incognito, Yeah, I mean, we remember the

2260
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 6: COVID where you can't have meetings with the players in person,

2261
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 6: so we would have zoom meetings, so you would see

2262
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 6: all the players on their little corner. You'd be having

2263
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 6: an offensive line meeting and you'd see the fifteen offensive line.

2264
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 6: You have a team meeting, and you could see a

2265
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 6: lot of the faces. So I remember Incognito one time

2266
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 6: I took all his clothes off, was walking around in

2267
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 6: his garage. You know, he just did things that were

2268
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 6: so off the wall hilarious. Uh, to keep everybody laughing.

2269
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 6: God bless that guy.

2270
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 1: Killer man.

2271
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has an aged a bit that face.

2272
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 6: You got to see him hit a golf ball.

2273
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 4: He can play. He's an athlete. Is he is an athlete?

2274
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Man, He's the wrong person to get on the bad

2275
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: side with the football field. He was one of those

2276
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: dudes that was a menace on just field goal. I

2277
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,480
Speaker 1: was trying to finish you on field Oh yeah, oh yeah.

2278
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I wouldn't want to wouldn't want to deal

2279
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 4: with that.

2280
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: You want to get him going to hopefully you draw

2281
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: a penalty.

2282
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 4: I wish I was able to play with him. I

2283
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 4: would I would have loved to play. I think that

2284
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 4: he was with Buffalo for a minute. There was a

2285
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 4: little bit of talk about him coming to the Titans,

2286
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 4: and I was like, man, that'd be awesome to play

2287
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 4: right next to him for a year.

2288
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,640
Speaker 6: Aggreation this you you played, You played one of the

2289
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 6: toughest positions. There are, man who who are some of

2290
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 6: the guys now that play left tackle that you look

2291
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 6: at and say, he's really good? Who are they?

2292
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: These days?

2293
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 6: It's easy to say Trent Williams, he's not playing right now.

2294
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Trent to me is I think is the

2295
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 4: greatest of all time. I think he is from an

2296
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 4: athletic standpoint, from a strength standpoint understanding, because with the

2297
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 4: offensive line, like you're playing every single snap of the

2298
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 4: game and they say to go hard every single play.

2299
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 4: He is a true understanding of like, if you're the

2300
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 4: backside on power and you're doing a hinge like you

2301
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 4: you have a very easy job. You take care of

2302
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 4: the big gap, you wing out, the end's coming down,

2303
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 4: you just block him out. Real quick, so he he

2304
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 4: does a great job of picking and chooses his times

2305
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 4: to attack in the game. A guy that I like,

2306
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 4: I love his feet is Lamry Tunzel. I know we

2307
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 4: talked about Houston having some struggles, but I think his

2308
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 4: feet or maybe the best feet of it I've ever seen.

2309
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 4: I think Ronnie Stanley, he's got a poetic movement about

2310
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 4: him when he's in his past set, he's he's very

2311
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 4: smooth and a guy that who's who was injured and

2312
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 4: has now come back and I played with him. Jack

2313
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 4: Conklin talk about a guy that has zero technique, has

2314
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 4: zero fundamentals when it comes to playing the position, but

2315
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 4: just always gets the job done. I like those guys

2316
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 4: quite a bit.

2317
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 6: They got a guy in Tampa. I really like this,

2318
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:17,839
Speaker 6: Tristan Wurfs.

2319
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, Tristan.

2320
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 6: He's a power player.

2321
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 4: Have you seen have you seen the video and he

2322
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 4: was coming out for the drafts jumping out of the pool.

2323
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 6: Who can do that?

2324
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 4: That that type of power is just different. And then

2325
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 4: we talked about him too. Is Joe al I like

2326
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 4: Joe Alt quite a bit too, Like a young guy

2327
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 4: who's found his way on a run heavy offense that

2328
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan.

2329
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: Of and embracing the move. The right tackle. Yeah, because

2330
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about that, like you know some guys that

2331
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: he was telling you at the draft he didn't want

2332
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: to play.

2333
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that's incredible. It's wild how Iowa gets

2334
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 4: these offensive lineman, man, I.

2335
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: Know, and then white cornerbacks.

2336
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the uh and then Micah Beckton was it Mikeah Beckton,

2337
01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 4: That's who we were talking about.

2338
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 6: Mackay beck the left tackle. He's out of Louisville. He

2339
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 6: he you know, he goes to New York and the

2340
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 6: media gets on him and they let him go, and

2341
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 6: he gets with the right coach and reinvents them, puts

2342
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 6: him in there right guard.

2343
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 4: It's it's really important for these the position groups at

2344
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 4: all times. I'm sure it's important for everywhere, but for

2345
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 4: an offensive line coach, especially because you got DB's and

2346
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 4: they're all like, they're not playing as one unit. They

2347
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 4: all have their own jobs. So might being zoned. So

2348
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 4: might be a man you're playing two high, one high,

2349
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 4: and then receivers. You have all your different routes. But

2350
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 4: with an offensive line, it's like, truly all five guys

2351
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 4: have to be on the same page. With what everybody's doing.

2352
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 4: That's just such a different job. You need a good

2353
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 4: offensive line coach to be successful. You gotta have it.

2354
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's that's probably the most important higher. Yeah,

2355
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 6: if you're the head coach, your defensive coordinator, and your

2356
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 6: line coach, you know you got to you gotta get

2357
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 6: somebody that can be the sixth man that can play

2358
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 6: both guards and center, a swing tackle. Those are tough jobs. Man.

2359
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 4: What were those conversations like with the swing guys when

2360
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 4: you're saying you have a guy like me, was a

2361
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 4: guy that only played left I couldn't you put me

2362
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 4: in a right handed stance. I'm as worth as the

2363
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 4: football player as you'll ever see.

2364
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 6: Well, I think the good line coach, Well, you're the

2365
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 6: left tackle. You're you're the highest paid left tack. We're

2366
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 6: not going to talk about you for a minute. But

2367
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 6: other guys on the practice field. Bill Callahan was my

2368
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 6: line coach for a long time. He's currently with the Titans. Yeah,

2369
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 6: Son's the head coach. But he would go out on

2370
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 6: the practice field and we'd have Lwan playing right guard.

2371
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 6: I'm like, Bill, what the hell are you doing?

2372
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: You know?

2373
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 6: And then we got Luwan's playing right tackle two days later.

2374
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 6: But my point is he would create your versatility. He

2375
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 6: would force you to get in a right handed stance,

2376
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 6: a left handed stance, a two point stance, a four

2377
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 6: point stance. And I think you have to have a

2378
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 6: line coach and a backup line coach who studies a

2379
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 6: play side the backside. It's always on your ass every

2380
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 6: second of the day. Those are what the great ones do,

2381
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 6: you know? And I think, as you said, that's a

2382
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 6: key part of being a great lineman, as who's coaching

2383
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 6: you With Rabel.

2384
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 4: Rabel was always a guy that would just find his

2385
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 4: way into the offensive line room and it would just

2386
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 4: tell us how to block. I having no idea how

2387
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 4: to block offensive line. He just like just getting away

2388
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 4: all you have to do. You don't just position block

2389
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 4: this guy. Were you ever a guy that would just

2390
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 4: wander into position groups and just hang out for a

2391
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 4: little bit.

2392
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 6: Not really. I was pretty much always on the offensive side,

2393
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 6: you know, but I would try to reach out to

2394
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 6: the defensive guys later in the week. I always had

2395
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 6: a lot of respect for our past rushers. You know,

2396
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 6: we have to have a fourth quarter pass rush or

2397
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 6: we got no chance That's why I can't wait to

2398
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 6: see these playoffs Warren sapp Simme and Rice. You have

2399
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 6: to have guys that can close you out. And that's

2400
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 6: why I love the forty nine ers if Bosa plays.

2401
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 6: But now without Bosa, without Armstead, they don't have that

2402
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 6: fourth quarter pass rush.

2403
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2404
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 6: That's why the Chiefs can win the Super Bowl every

2405
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 6: year because they do have a great coach and a

2406
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 6: great quarterback.

2407
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 1: But they got a.

2408
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 6: Fourth quarter pass rush man. Yeah, and if you have

2409
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 6: those three, you have to have those three elements I

2410
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 6: think to win it. But I was always interested in

2411
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 6: the game plan of our past rushers. What are you

2412
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 6: gonna do to Luan? You know, what are you gonna

2413
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 6: do to Luwan? But as you know, you don't want

2414
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 6: to be in third and seven. You don't want to

2415
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 6: have a lot of third days, you know. And when

2416
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 6: you do get the third and seven, you gotta be

2417
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 6: careful as a play caller to make sure we have

2418
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 6: a chip over there. We got somebody nudging the guy

2419
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 6: quick game screens. You got to do some things to

2420
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 6: help these guys because in the noise against some of

2421
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 6: these guys, it's a bitch. It's a hard job.

2422
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 4: You got You've either got to chip these guys, slide

2423
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 4: to the most dangerous pass rusher, or have a quarterback

2424
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 4: that can facilitate and get the ball out quickly. That

2425
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 4: was one thing. We had Ken Wizzen Hunt for twenty

2426
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 4: fourteen and fifteen, and Ken was like, this is my offense,

2427
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 4: but he's been dealing with Philip rivers for the last

2428
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 4: ten years. So we have Jake Locker and Zach Mettenberger. Eventually,

2429
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 4: after Jake hurts his thumb and it's all key right

2430
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 4: and key left, we're doing six man's protections. We're not

2431
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 4: doing chips ever, and we don't have the quarterback that

2432
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 4: understands the offense well enough to know where his hots are,

2433
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 4: where to get the ball out, or where the man

2434
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 4: side protection is with von Miller on that side. So

2435
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 4: it was tough Slend for a couple of years. You

2436
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 4: need those chips, You got to have them play that.

2437
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,879
Speaker 4: You're obsessed with Spider two White Banana. What's the obsession?

2438
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 4: It's a man. It's a max protection type of situation,

2439
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 4: a low red type of situation. Why do you love

2440
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 4: it so much?

2441
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 6: Andrew Luck? We had Andrew Luck on our show, Gruden's

2442
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,879
Speaker 6: QB camp and David Shaw, the head coach of Stanford,

2443
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 6: was on my staff in Philly and in Oakland. Well,

2444
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,600
Speaker 6: Stanford runs a lot of Spider two why banana? And

2445
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 6: I have never met a quarterback coming out of college

2446
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 6: like Andrew Luck. I mean he had everything six four

2447
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 6: two forty, he could run and probably the smartest guy

2448
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 6: I've ever met play the position. So they're running Spider

2449
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 6: two white banana at Stanford unlike I've ever seen. And

2450
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 6: I'm just studying getting ready for Andrew Luck, and I'm

2451
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 6: seeing Spider two wive and asked Spider three wive and

2452
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 6: ass fight. Guy's putting on a clinic, throwing, throwing, But

2453
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 6: Spider two, why banana? They must have thrown fifteen touchdowns.

2454
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 6: I'm not shitting yet. So they're playing USC. Stanford is

2455
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 6: playing USC big game College football game Day? Is there?

2456
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 6: Spider two why banana? Is very simple. You hit the

2457
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 6: fall back in the flat or at the tight end.

2458
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Pops.

2459
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 6: You might hit the tight end of the corner. You

2460
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 6: never throw the ball backside on Spider two white banana. Well,

2461
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 6: Andrew Luck on Spider two wiye Banana against USC throws

2462
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 6: a pick six, throwing to the backside. He called it

2463
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 6: a lightning route or something. So as soon as I

2464
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 6: got to that play, his face got red as a

2465
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 6: sheet and we busted his balls on that. Yeah, and

2466
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 6: it just kind of went viral whatever the word is.

2467
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 6: You guys use you know when something hits with fans,

2468
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 6: But it was. It was a cool moment and ever

2469
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 6: since the Spider two white Banana. But it is a

2470
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 6: hell of a play. If you're running power, if you're

2471
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 6: running a rock, if you're running Mike alstot a ninety

2472
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 6: six power and your linebackers are worried about tackling that

2473
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 6: big sum bitch, watch out. We'll slip it full back

2474
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 6: into the flat.

2475
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,600
Speaker 1: Spider two wive Bananas or two. Who are some of

2476
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: the teams right now that are kind of in the

2477
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: middle of the pack that you could see winning the

2478
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: whole thing.

2479
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 6: I think Pittsburgh and Baltimore, I think someone's gonna come

2480
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 6: out of the you know, I still think I still

2481
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 6: think Pittsburgh's dangerous. I mean, they're leading their division, but

2482
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 6: when you look at their schedule them in Baltimore, I

2483
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 6: kind of consider them as the middle of the pack

2484
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 6: in the AFC's a that's a tough question for me.

2485
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 6: I really think there's five or six teams that have

2486
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 6: a chance to win it. I think there's about twenty

2487
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 6: teams that are getting ready for next year.

2488
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you What is your view of the

2489
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: landscape of football right now? The quality of the product.

2490
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 6: I just think continuity is a big part of winning.

2491
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 6: When you look at Andy Reid, He's been there, He's

2492
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 6: done that. He's been in Kansas City, Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh,

2493
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 6: John Harbaugh and Baltimore. Dan Campbell's been in Detroit, Shanahan.

2494
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 6: You know. I like the teams that are in the

2495
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 6: money every year. It just seems to me like have

2496
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 6: been together the Philadelphia Eagles, Syrian he's been there now

2497
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 6: a few years. I just think there's a lot of

2498
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 6: change over now. Teams change coaches, not just head coaches,

2499
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 6: often the coordinators, defensive coordinators, and I think it's a

2500
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 6: problem with the development of players. You guys can speak

2501
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 6: on this when you're a first year player, when you're

2502
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 6: a rookie, it's an eye opening deal.

2503
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: Man.

2504
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 6: I don't care what round, but when you came back

2505
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 6: as your second year in the same system, that's when

2506
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 6: you probably showed your most improvement. But when you keep

2507
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 6: pulling a rug out of you players, and here's a

2508
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 6: new snap count, here's a new system, it's a it's

2509
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 6: a hard deal to get better, don't you think?

2510
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you're on that like level one learning curve

2511
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 1: in that first year, and then again when you go

2512
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 1: into years two, year three, you're looking at them details.

2513
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 1: You're thinking outside the box. You're trying to think more

2514
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: like a coordinator than just your own position. You're thinking

2515
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: about everywhere, everybody else around you have everything moves around you.

2516
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, when it's a new system, it's like you

2517
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: just want to understand, like what your job is.

2518
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 4: You understand, right, you understand the bigger picture going into

2519
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 4: year two as opposed to just your your assignment for

2520
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 4: your play calling? Was it always the same? Did you

2521
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 4: always keep the same numbers? You say, ninety six power

2522
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 4: spider two wide it inage? You always have the same

2523
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 4: terminol and phrases going from year to year? Did you

2524
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 4: ever try to switch it.

2525
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Up a little bit?

2526
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 6: I took a lot of pride in the verbage I

2527
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 6: learned under Bill Walsh with the forty nine ers, Mike Congrin,

2528
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,879
Speaker 6: we had a lot of words and we became very worthy.

2529
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 6: But when I was out of football and I came back,

2530
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 6: we realized that a lot of these players, you know,

2531
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 6: we got to we got to tighten up our communication

2532
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 6: so we can pick up a player off the waiver wire,

2533
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 6: make a trade whatever, and bring you in and fast

2534
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 6: track you. You don't have time to learn all these crazy

2535
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 6: words and what they mean. So we did streamline it

2536
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 6: a little bit, but we still had a lot to

2537
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 6: say because we had a lot of formations. We had

2538
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 6: a lot of motions, a lot of personnel groupings. And

2539
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 6: if you want to have a big airport you want

2540
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 6: to take flights everywhere, you got to make sure you're organized,

2541
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 6: you have the ability to do that. I'm just I

2542
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 6: never liked these teams that line up in trips right

2543
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 6: and clap their hands and put the ball in play.

2544
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 1: You know.

2545
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 6: I like multiple looks. If the defense hasn't seen it,

2546
01:48:55,360 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 6: they can't prepare for it. It's an illusion of sophistication or

2547
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 6: just simple and basic plays that start off looking the

2548
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 6: same that are different. You know, there's some common threads

2549
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 6: in philosophy I think that you got to have if

2550
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 6: you're going to be any good at it.

2551
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: How much football. Do you feel like you forgot when

2552
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 1: you were in media for nine years? Terminologies your playbook.

2553
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 6: I probably didn't much, just because I have my own

2554
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 6: computer at home, and when I watch the first play

2555
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 6: of the game, I type in the formation A lot

2556
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 6: of times, I even type in the front. So now

2557
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 6: you save your work and I can come back and

2558
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 6: be my own quality control guy. It's a sick obsessed

2559
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 6: world of football I live in, and that's why it's

2560
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 6: kind of cool to get out of it. And it's

2561
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 6: almost like I'm out of prison or something. I mean,

2562
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 6: I'm playing golf with these guys and there's a drone

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01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 6: flying around me and Trent you're playing. We're playing golf.

2564
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 6: Frankie's on the other team. We're talking to having a

2565
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 6: good time. I'm like, is this John Gruden? You know,

2566
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 6: shouldn't I be in a fucking laboratory study in a

2567
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 6: red zone offense or something? And now I'm on the

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01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 6: bus with you guys. It's really you know, wish ou

2569
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 6: I've done this ten years ago. It's a lot more fun.

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01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: Man. What can people expect with you at barstool? It

2571
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: seems like you bring back the Gruden football camp.

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01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 6: We're going to try to bring back Gruden's QB camp

2573
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 6: and it won't be the same. It'll be it'll have

2574
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 6: a little different spice to it. But this Dave Portnoy guy,

2575
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 6: he's something else. And this big Cat guy, I really

2576
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 6: like this Big Cat. Yeah, I'm just getting to know them.

2577
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 6: And I got hired really week eight of the season.

2578
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 6: So it's hard to just create a show and come on,

2579
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 6: I mean, you're going to have to put a little

2580
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 6: time on task and meet with some people. And you know,

2581
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 6: I'd like to do something with you man, like to

2582
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 6: do something with you guys. I don't know. Yeah, but

2583
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 6: I have a creative mind myself and just starting to

2584
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 6: scratch the surface a little bit. I've got some people

2585
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 6: out there that send me nasty texts and messages. You know,

2586
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 6: they help me get better, and I encourage that, you know,

2587
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 6: I need to help from people. But I really am

2588
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 6: excited about what could happen because I know the potential is.

2589
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, bro, you're the top of a rocket ship.

2590
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 4: Like barstool has a way of making you more known

2591
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 4: than ever.

2592
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd those conversations go? They've just hit you up like, Hey,

2593
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

2594
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 6: I got a I got a message on one of

2595
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 6: those uh you know, I don't know Twitter, tiktoks or whatever. Yeah,

2596
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 6: my son Mike, who wrote the song Nicy, he's my

2597
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 6: music man. He says, Hey, Dad, Dave Portnoy reached out

2598
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 6: to you. So, to make a long story short, my

2599
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 6: wife was in a ballroom dancing contest in Orlando and

2600
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 6: Dave flew in to see me and we just had

2601
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 6: dinner together and talked a little bit. Next thing I know, man,

2602
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 6: we're I was in Chicago filming something up there, and

2603
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 6: you know, you walk in you don't realize what's going on.

2604
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 6: I mean, hell, I'm just a coach. I walk in

2605
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 6: there and they're filming stuff. Hey what about John Daily?

2606
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 6: Did you go golf with John Daly? You start talking

2607
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,480
Speaker 6: about it. Next thing you know, it's out there. Everybody

2608
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 6: knows about the whole day. You know. But it's really

2609
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 6: fascinating how it works. Yeah, you know, and the the

2610
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 6: ability that they have to reach so many people on

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01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 6: so many different platforms instantly, and they take a lot

2612
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 6: of pride in it. You know, they want to be

2613
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 6: really good, which is what I like.

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01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Right your Gruden loves football content. I mean since day one,

2615
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: I like I consume it. It's like, all right, I'm

2616
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: trying to hope you you drop stuff before we do

2617
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 1: the locker room to hear everything you're breaking down, because

2618
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 1: I remember, I'm like, I'm not thinking it's probably his

2619
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 1: son running the profile, but he's got the Gruden loves

2620
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 1: Football Twitter profile and I just DM and I'm like,

2621
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 1: I need gruden On bustling with and I've already messaged

2622
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 1: with them, but I'm just having fun with the profile,

2623
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 1: like I need gruden On busting with the boys like

2624
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: I need air. And he responds to me like it's

2625
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: him running the whole Twitter account. He's like, oh, you're

2626
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: a Gruden grinder. Of course I'll come on. And I'm thinking, oh, okay,

2627
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 1: I'm just messing with coach Gruden again.

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01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, when you break a game down.

2629
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 6: What I wanted to do with that is try to

2630
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 6: take fans into a little bit of the reality of

2631
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 6: what we go through one hundred percent. If it's the

2632
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 6: Chargers in the Bucks, Let's start with top of line

2633
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 6: things you might want to know. I'm here's the injury

2634
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 6: list right, Here's where they rank statistically, Here's how they

2635
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 6: play on the road. I mean, there's a lot of

2636
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 6: things that you got to get your mind straight on

2637
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 6: before you even get in to the Chargers offense. Let's

2638
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 6: talk nothing but about Chargers offense. And I wanted the

2639
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 6: fans to know who the offensive linemen were, who the

2640
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 6: receivers were, who the running backs were, who the plate

2641
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 6: caller was. I mean, I spent twenty minutes on a

2642
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 6: Chargers offense. Here's a couple of schemes they like to run.

2643
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 6: This is the Chargers offense, but they're going up against

2644
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 6: Tampa's defense. And then you spend twenty minutes on Todd

2645
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 6: Bowles calls the plays. You know, they got Winfield's hurt,

2646
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 6: they got Jamal Deane's hurt, and you go into all

2647
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 6: the matchups and some of the blitzes that Todd Bowles runs.

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01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 6: Then he got to do the Chargers defense against the

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01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 6: Bucks offense. Next thing you know, it's an hour and

2650
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 6: fifteen minutes on one game, and people are like, man,

2651
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 6: fans aren't gonna want to watch all that, but the

2652
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 6: hardcore fans, oh, bro nutty, people like me like it.

2653
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 6: Then at the end of the game, they say, at

2654
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 6: the end of the presentation, they say, well, we got

2655
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 6: to make a prediction who's gonna win? I said, I

2656
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 6: don't know who's gonna win. I say, I don't care

2657
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 6: who wins. Yeah, you know. But then I start picking

2658
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 6: scores and some of my picks, I'm like, you, guys,

2659
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 6: I root for a team a little bit. I kind

2660
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 6: of want so I kind of picked them to win.

2661
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 6: And it's not some of the gambling people. They get

2662
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 6: pissed at.

2663
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: You.

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01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 6: Screw me, man, you gave me all this information.

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01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: I remember coming to Taylor, I'm like, hey, have you

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01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: seen this Grudenless football show. I'm like, bro, he runs

2667
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 1: it like he's low key, like running a team meeting

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01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: at the top of a week.

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Speaker 4: It's incredible, the breakdown of everything. Have you noticed how

2670
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 4: easy it is to overthink things because it's like you

2671
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 4: can break down all the film you want, but they're like,

2672
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 4: all right, who's gonna win? And you're like, well, this

2673
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 4: team and they're like, well know their defense is this

2674
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 4: and that. Have you have you ran into that where

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01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 4: it's like you get into a point of overthinking it

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01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 4: a little bit.

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01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 6: You can easily overthink it. And I tell you there

2678
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 6: are some games. Now I'm not a big gambling guy.

2679
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you. There are some games I've

2680
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 6: learned to stay away from. Got no idea what's going

2681
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 6: to happen in this game, And there are certain games.

2682
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 6: As I told you guys earlier, I'm going in on

2683
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 6: this game, you know. And I don't pick the spreads.

2684
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 6: I would never picked the spreads. And I know you

2685
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 6: don't make as much money when you pick the money

2686
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 6: line they call it, but you pick a team to win.

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01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 6: I'm pretty good at picking winners. And I don't get

2688
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 6: involved in a spread. And then my son says, we

2689
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 6: don't get anybody if you pick the money line. Well,

2690
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 6: if you pick two money lines, you know.

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Speaker 1: You got a little barley.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm learning. Anyways, I'm I'm I'm learning and I'm

2693
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 6: loving it. And this is really cool, this operation. I

2694
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 6: would not have expected anything less from you two guys.

2695
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 6: And I tell you, I don't know where you guys

2696
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 6: are going with the future. There's a lot of rumors

2697
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 6: about where you two guys are heading.

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01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 4: Hopefully all yeah, hopefully nice chatter.

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Speaker 6: It is very nice.

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Speaker 1: I gotta I got a couple of fun questions for

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Speaker 1: you written up our boys, Sherman the back.

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Speaker 1: Back the episode, Let's say you're running a fantasy football league,

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Speaker 1: but the teams are made up of only coaches. Which

2730
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 1: coach are you drafting first?

2731
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 4: First overall pick?

2732
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 6: I take Andy Reid. Is Andy Reid. He can call

2733
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 6: the plays and he can coach the quarterback. Man.

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01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 1: That's a good pick. Yes, everybody's gonna fault you there.

2735
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Speaker 1: If you could only watch one NFL game on repeat

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01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, which game are you

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01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: one NFL game?

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Speaker 6: It would be the millennium game Raiders versus Chiefs. The

2739
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 6: calendar just kicked over to two thousand. I was in

2740
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 6: my second year coaching the Raiders. I was going to

2741
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 6: get fired. We were seven and eight. We're playing at

2742
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 6: the Chiefs. All the Chiefs need to do is win

2743
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 6: this game. Beat the Raiders, who they beaten one hundred

2744
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 6: times in a row and they win the division, get

2745
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 6: a home playoff game. We're down seventeen zip after about

2746
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 6: six minutes and this place is rocking. Man, my boy

2747
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 6: rich Gannon got pissed off and shred him. We beat

2748
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 6: him thirty eight thirty five in overtime. Check that game out.

2749
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 6: Raiders at the Chiefs two thousand, last.

2750
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 1: Game of the year.

2751
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 4: Hey, just he knew it off the top too.

2752
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 6: We busted him, good man. I was dancing on the field.

2753
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 6: Probably saved my job that day too.

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01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, guy's got to be a great feeling and go home,

2756
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 4: crack up in a nice drink.

2757
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 6: What what's your favorite memory on the grid iron? Just

2758
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 6: get one.

2759
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen playoffs AFC Divisional Round against the Baltimore Ravens.

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01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 4: They were the one seed. We had to win five

2761
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 4: of six just to make it into the playoffs. We

2762
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 4: play against the New England Patriots and the dynasty for

2763
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 4: Tom Brady was his last game as a Patriot, and

2764
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 4: we go in against the Ravens. It was Lamar Jackson's

2765
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 4: first MVP in Baltimore. The Bank was as loud of

2766
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 4: a stadium as I've ever heard of my entire life.

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01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 1: And we owned him.

2768
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 4: Like I that is my favorite game from a blocking standpoint. Ever,

2769
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 4: they had eight guys in the box from ran Wanda,

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01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 4: which is open side outside zone, and we blocked him

2771
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 4: and Derek ran it for like forty yards. It just

2772
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,880
Speaker 4: felt like everything we did it was we were gonna

2773
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 4: get at least four yards.

2774
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 6: Guy, he's sitting up like.

2775
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 1: It was awesome.

2776
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 4: We had a turnover. We had a turnover in that game.

2777
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 4: I think Jeroe Casey got a strip stripsack fumble that

2778
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 4: was picked up by Harold Landry. That player on like

2779
01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 4: the forty six yard line going in and we call

2780
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 4: Lucy x pile on y x pile on post and

2781
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 4: it's Kleief Raymond. He's like four or five yards past

2782
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 4: the dB and we score a touch on the next

2783
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 4: play and it's just like that cool, We're gonna beat

2784
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 4: the That's just thanks.

2785
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: See.

2786
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 6: That's the one thing I've learned about being in social

2787
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 6: media is I like to discover like great plays. I

2788
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 6: like to go back and show you some of the

2789
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 6: memories of other players. I have tape in my office

2790
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 6: of Lawrence Taylor. I got Eric Dickerson ronning with that

2791
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 6: high form. But you can't show you can't really show

2792
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 6: the video. You don't have rights to the video to

2793
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 6: use all the time you see, So you gotta, you know,

2794
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 6: you gotta creative find ways to make your point. But

2795
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 6: I would love to see that game.

2796
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 4: It's awesome.

2797
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 1: Here's yeah.

2798
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 4: I can go on all day by that game. That

2799
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 4: game was awesome. The blocking was incredible. We had five

2800
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 4: guys doing everything right every single play. It was unbelievable.

2801
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to think about mine. I feel like it's

2802
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: more you just get pissed off that you lost, like

2803
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 1: when we lost the Green Bay in the walladcard round

2804
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: when we ended up winning the division. Probably the most

2805
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 1: fun game and most fun memories when we clinched the

2806
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 1: division at Philly right around Christmas, went out there. That

2807
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:32,320
Speaker 1: was the dad game, my only career sack on Sam Bradford.

2808
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 1: But we beat their ass and we came back and

2809
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 1: just the city, the town was packed in Ashbourne, Virginia,

2810
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,320
Speaker 1: like you were just going one two miles an hour

2811
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 1: driving out of the facility because fans were so excited.

2812
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 1: It was such a moment that you know, that was

2813
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 1: like do you like that year Kirk Cousins kind of

2814
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 1: making his run. We're kind of a bad football team

2815
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 1: and we'd win one, lose one, try to string a

2816
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: couple together, and we ended up winning the division that year.

2817
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:58,160
Speaker 1: In the NFC. Least they called it, but I would

2818
02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 1: say that game is probably the most memorable fun game

2819
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 1: as far as moments go. Probably when I got I

2820
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 1: got to start against the New Orleans Saints we played

2821
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:10,839
Speaker 1: the week before at New England. We got our ass kicked,

2822
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 1: but I made a few good plays. I think I

2823
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:15,720
Speaker 1: had like eight tackles, and they made the switch to

2824
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 1: make me the mic, the mic backer, and I remember

2825
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 1: kerk Olividadi, he pulled me right into the office before

2826
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: we went into the defensive room to have to have

2827
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 1: a defensive meeting to start breaking down the Saints. He

2828
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 1: pulled me in and he whispered, you got the keys,

2829
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 1: make me right and just dap me up. And I'm like,

2830
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 1: oh shit, we're rolling like I'm active, like I get

2831
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 1: to play now. And so we end up beating the

2832
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 1: Saints ass bro And the paper that one of the

2833
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 1: papers is next week was like, you know, r W

2834
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 1: a Redskins with attitude, and I, you know, I was

2835
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:47,120
Speaker 1: spotlighted in it. Had a really good game, and that

2836
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 1: was Probably the most memorable moment was when I got

2837
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:52,120
Speaker 1: to ultimately like take over the job in Washington, because

2838
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, you just you bust your ass to getting

2839
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: all the situations that you're in. The year before that,

2840
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 1: there was like, you know, that's when I got to

2841
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 1: play against you guys the delaying game and I had

2842
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 1: a little run there because somebody had gotten hurt to

2843
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 1: where I accumulated some tackles. But then you just start

2844
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: to get noticed. The next year, it's like, hey, are

2845
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 1: you gonna take this guy's job? You have a couple

2846
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 1: of injuries, you don't get the opportunity to take it.

2847
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 1: Then in the middle of the year as it unfold,

2848
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 1: similar to the Oakland year where you just ended up

2849
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 1: getting an opportunity and you just don't look back. Like

2850
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 1: those are those are more of like my memorable times

2851
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL.

2852
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 4: What was the least favorite game ever?

2853
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: Good question?

2854
02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 6: The tuck rule was bad.

2855
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I forgot that. I forgot the Yeah,

2856
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: because there he did walk through, you know, take it

2857
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 1: at his facility and he goes in the bathroom on

2858
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 1: the shitter and he's got the photo sitting up and

2859
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 1: it's the tuck rule photo.

2860
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 6: You know, we played the AFC Championship game when I

2861
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 6: was coaching the Raiders against Baltimore, and I don't know

2862
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 6: if you remember, but Sarah Gousa killed our quarterback. We

2863
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:56,480
Speaker 6: don't get a personal file, we don't get anything. It

2864
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 6: really pissed me off in that game too. But the

2865
02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 6: tuck rule, you know, instant replay is designed to only

2866
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 6: overturn a play. That's completely what obvious right to lose

2867
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:11,560
Speaker 6: a game like that. Think of Steve Wisnowski, He's nine

2868
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 6: Pro Bowls, William Thomas, Eric Allen, these are great NFL players.

2869
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 6: That's the last game they ever played. You know, we

2870
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 6: got we got a chance to go to the Super Bowl.

2871
02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:24,880
Speaker 6: That's what kind of team we had. And I can

2872
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:28,680
Speaker 6: see Belichick taking his headset off, their whole stab. Brady's

2873
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 6: walking off the field. You can interview any of them.

2874
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 6: They knew that game was over. Yeah, And the only

2875
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 6: thing wrong with the tuck rule is they spelled it wrong.

2876
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:39,440
Speaker 6: It's really not a t it's another consonant it's supposed

2877
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:39,680
Speaker 6: to be.

2878
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 1: That's what They don't.

2879
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 6: Even have the rule anymore.

2880
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 4: That's how bad it is.

2881
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:47,400
Speaker 1: God the biggest rival coach out there. We're just like,

2882
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 1: I want to get his ass. Whether you guys went

2883
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 1: back and forth to.

2884
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 6: Or they had to be Andy. You know, had to

2885
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 6: be Andy Reid, you know, because we were on the

2886
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 6: same staff. We're on Mike Holmgrean's staff in Green Bay.

2887
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 6: You guys love this. So Andy played for Mike Holmgren

2888
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 6: at BYU, so he was kind of the teacher's pet,

2889
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, I don't know, I love So we

2890
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:09,880
Speaker 6: had this big board, me and Mary Ucci and Andy

2891
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 6: Reid were young coaches at the time, and we would

2892
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 6: put the plays on the board with the formations and

2893
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 6: these are the plays that we think should be in

2894
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 6: the game plan, and Homegroom would be doing his thing.

2895
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 6: He'd come in. He'd sit there and look at the

2896
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 6: board and in a different color would be a new play.

2897
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 6: And homegrown was always he was always whose play is that,

2898
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 6: Andy goes, that's my play. That's sixty nine handoff solid.

2899
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 6: You get on the board and draw it. Mike would

2900
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 6: put it in and Andy would like look at me

2901
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 6: and moods like I'm smarter than you.

2902
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 4: Gain Yeah.

2903
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 6: So Andy would get a play in the game plan.

2904
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 6: It would be called and he gains six yards or

2905
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 6: a gain eight yards and Andy walk around the office

2906
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 6: all week. I guess, bitch, So now we're not playing good.

2907
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:56,800
Speaker 6: We just signed Reggie White in free agency, we got

2908
02:04:56,840 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 6: we got Brett Farr playing again, we got Sterling Sharp,

2909
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 6: we got a hell of the team, and we're not

2910
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 6: playing it. We're like two and three and people are

2911
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 6: starting to get on Holmegren's ass a little bit. You

2912
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 6: know what I mean, what's wrong with you guys? So

2913
02:05:07,480 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 6: we go into the room. There's all the plays and

2914
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 6: there's this play called Fox three full back slide fifty eight.

2915
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 6: All go z search Homegrin's like, what are those plays?

2916
02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 6: I go, those are my two plays? And I had

2917
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 6: to cut up and I well, you don't like our place?

2918
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 4: Is that what your problem is? You don't want to run?

2919
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 6: He was on my ass, like yelling at me. My fuck.

2920
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 6: So we go play the Bears on Halloween night. You

2921
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 6: can go back and watch this game.

2922
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Now.

2923
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:32,720
Speaker 6: It's pouring down rain, the worst night in the history

2924
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,560
Speaker 6: of football. Third and two. Early in the game home,

2925
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 6: Grin calls red left fake Fox three naked right full

2926
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:42,000
Speaker 6: back slide. I swear to god, Brett Favre kept it.

2927
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 6: Runs it in longest touchdown run of his career thirty

2928
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:47,680
Speaker 6: six yards on Monday Night football. I'm on the sidelines.

2929
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 6: I'm not saying anything, but I'm like, God damn, that's

2930
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 6: my play.

2931
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 4: So listen late, this is true.

2932
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 6: Late in the game, we just need a first down

2933
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,120
Speaker 6: of games over and it's like third and fourteen, and

2934
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 6: I had seen Dan Marino running all go with a

2935
02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 6: little search route. The guy acted like he was running

2936
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 6: a scene, but he would throw his shoulders down and uncover.

2937
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 6: And I put that play in and Sterling Sharp ran

2938
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 6: it better than Mark Clayton, and Mark duper ever ran

2939
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 6: it far up through it like a twenty three yard

2940
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 6: game to icy game. That's my plate too. So we

2941
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 6: get on the plane and back. Then they give you

2942
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,680
Speaker 6: a little bag with two beers in it, and Holmer

2943
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:26,680
Speaker 6: is sitting in the front with Ron Wolf the GM

2944
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 6: and I'm in the back. I'll never forget this. I

2945
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 6: got my beer and I'm drinking it. I'm thinking, God damn,

2946
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:34,120
Speaker 6: that was the greatest day of my life. Holger turns around,

2947
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 6: he goes Hey, Grueber calls me, Gruber, Hey, Grueber, come

2948
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 6: down here. I walk down and fucking think I sit

2949
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 6: next to him, he goes game ball.

2950
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 4: Hell of a job.

2951
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 6: I turn around. I walked back to my seat. I

2952
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 6: see Andy Reid and I go game ball.

2953
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 4: I love competing with Ady Reid.

2954
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 6: And then when we competed against each other and he

2955
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:59,720
Speaker 6: was in Philly, I was in Oakland or Kansas City.

2956
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 6: I mean, I just used to love seeing them. And

2957
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 6: I love you Christmas and God bless you.

2958
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 4: Man.

2959
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 6: If I can ever do anything, if I ever come

2960
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 6: back and coach, you'll be my left tackle.

2961
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go.

2962
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 4: You have a bad You're not getting.

2963
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 6: A guaranteed contract, though you're getting.

2964
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:22,280
Speaker 1: A ship it.

2965
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 6: You're getting a minimum salary benefit. And no one said it,

2966
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,240
Speaker 6: but you coach for you. I gotta have a left tackle.

2967
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:28,920
Speaker 1: I love it.

2968
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 4: Before before you go, I do want to play a

2969
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 4: game of crystal ball with you. Okay, Of all the

2970
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:36,160
Speaker 4: coaching positions that might be open this year, it might

2971
02:07:36,200 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 4: be the Dallas Cowboys. We know the Jets, we know

2972
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 4: the Bears. Where do you think you would fit in best?

2973
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

2974
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 6: I have no idea that puts me on the spot.

2975
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, that's a tough one. We'll cut it.

2976
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 4: Guess what cut Hey appreciate you coming on, man.

2977
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:53,360
Speaker 6: I do think the Bears with that young quarterback is interesting.

2978
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 1: You know.

2979
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 6: I like their defense too. Man, have you seen him play?

2980
02:07:56,880 --> 02:08:01,440
Speaker 6: I got some guys on Edwards. I mean, he's a

2981
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 6: hell of a player. They got some linebackers that can run.

2982
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 6: When they lost Jakwan Brisker, they lost a key member

2983
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 6: of that secondary, but they got corners. They do have

2984
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 6: some pass rushers. They got some receivers.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they got a quarterback. I like this kid.

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Speaker 1: Man, got you a.

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Speaker 6: Nice Minnesota might look out on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: These guys.

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Speaker 6: This quarterback is interesting, man. I love It's got me

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Speaker 6: feeling nicey.

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Speaker 1: Twisted question. You are down? You were down a point

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Speaker 1: two seconds left. It's fourth and twenty from the thirty

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Speaker 1: five yard line. But your kicker broke his foot. What's

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Speaker 1: the play call? Shit?

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Speaker 6: Thanks a lot. I'll go tandem right seventy six rebound pass.

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Speaker 6: I'll throw a hail Mary up there. I'll isolate my

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Speaker 6: best receiver. If they play one on one over there,

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Speaker 6: I'll throw it to him. If not, I'll take I'll

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Speaker 6: pop it up into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Love it because you ever see guys throw hail mary's

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Speaker 6: in the ball lands off the field of play. I

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Speaker 6: want to make this point before I leave. Have you

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Speaker 6: ever seen this shit where the I'm talking to hail

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Speaker 6: mary okay, and the ball lands off of the field

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Speaker 6: of play. Have you ever seen that?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 6: You asked, yes, Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 4: They're scared?

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Speaker 6: Why do you think it is?

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Speaker 4: It's the QB.

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Speaker 6: Rating man, They don't want to throw interceptions.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you think it's an ego thing.

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Speaker 6: I know it is. It has to be. These are

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Speaker 6: the greatest passers in the world. You mean to tell

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Speaker 6: me on a hail Mary, you can't put the ball

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Speaker 6: on the field to play. Seriously, you can throw the

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Speaker 6: ball in that tight window that big, you can sizzle

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Speaker 6: it in there off platform into a window that big,

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Speaker 6: but on the last play of the game, you can't

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Speaker 6: keep the ball on the playing field. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 6: When you see that, you know you're dealing with somebody

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Speaker 6: that's interested in his QB rating. I keep an eye

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Speaker 6: on that. I will, I will what last saying. I'll

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Speaker 6: tell you. I learned this from Reggie White. Do you

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Speaker 6: know tackles for loss and sack is a big way

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Speaker 6: these guys get paid, right, Yeah, So back in the day,

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Speaker 6: Reggie White told me this a long time ago. They're

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Speaker 6: playing for the Philadelphia Eagles and the quarterback takes a knee.

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Speaker 6: Reggie White, Clyde Simmons. He told me those guys would

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Speaker 6: go flying in there to touch the quarterback to get

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Speaker 6: credit for a TfL. And now that rule, I guess

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Speaker 6: has changed too. But I'm interested in You know, two

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Speaker 6: seconds left in the half, you're in a prevent defense

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Speaker 6: and somebody runs a draw play for sixteen yards. You

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Speaker 6: know those. That's why statistics you gotta be really careful

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Speaker 6: when you look at them.

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Speaker 4: Man, I love that knowledge. Yeah, I love knowledge.

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Speaker 1: I love the take. Coach.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you so much. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: That was awesome.

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Speaker 6: You guys, awesome, you guys.

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Speaker 10: Go